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C
Well,
I've
got
6
30.,
we'll,
convene
the
Planning
and
Zoning
special
meeting
of
November
28th
2022.
Commissioner
vessey,
would
you
like
to
where'd
he
go.
Oh
there
he
is
you're
hiding.
Would
you
like
to
do
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
invocation.
C
All
right,
I'm
going
to
use
my
discretion
to
skip
over
the
mission
statement
since
there's
really
nobody
to
hear
nobody
here
to
hear
it
that
doesn't
already
know
it
so
can
I
have
a
roll
call.
Please
Mr.
B
B
C
And
that
brings
us
to
our
legislative
agenda.
Item
number
four:
is
application
Numbers
22
107
through
22
111.?
These
are
amendments
to
the
municipal
code,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code.
Do
we
have
a
staff
presentation.
G
For
us
right
so
in
reviewing
these
ordinances,
I
noticed
that
there's
a
provision
in
the
title
of
the
ordinance
that
does
not
appear
in
the
body
in
the
text
of
the
ordinance.
If
you
look
at
the
title,
it
says
providing
for
inclusion
of
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida
and
there's
actually
a
provision
that
needs
to
be
added
as
another
section
to
the
ordinance
that
effectuates
that
language
that
basically
says
to
The
Keeper
of
the
code.
You're
authorized
to
print
this
and
put
it
in
the
code.
G
So
when
you
all
discuss
these
tonight
and
discuss
your
motions,
if
you're
going
to
be
making
motions
for
approval,
so
any
ones
that
you
make
for
approval,
I
am
requesting
that
you
add
the
amendment
for
the
inclusion
of
that
language.
So
the
Motions
would
be
to
pass
as
amended
with
that
specific
addition
to
your
ordinance
and
I
will
go
ahead.
If
it's
all
right
and
then
read
this
by
title.
G
Only
ordinance
number
2022-22,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
20,
section,
20-23,
connections
to
public
water,
reclaimed,
water
and
sewer
systems,
annexation
required
and
the
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code
appendix
a
article
12
section
2008-00
annexations,
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
for
an
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
first
and
final
reading
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
C
F
I
can
just
to
kind
of
take
just
for
a
moment,
one
step
back
a
little
bit
of
background
on
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
I.
Think
most
of
you
have
been
on
the
board
through
this
process,
but
I,
don't
think
all
of
you
have
been
on
the
board
since
all
of
it
started.
So
we
met
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
over.
F
We
being
the
planning
department,
planning
staff,
met
in
public
meetings
and
had
discussion
items
with
you,
as
well
as
the
Board
of
Commissioners
about
things
in
the
Land
Development
code,
the
comprehensive
plan
and
and
the
smart
code
that
had
been
identified
over
the
course
of
you
know
several
months
as
problematic
areas
that
we
didn't
really
want
to
wait
to
take
action
on.
F
So
we
had
positive
Board
of
Direction
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
move
forward
with
this
set
of
amendments,
so
we're
finally,
now
starting
the
official
hearing
process
and
that's
kind
of
how
we
we
got
to
where
we
are
today.
So
the
first
of
these
ordinances
is
22-22.
F
Regarding
annexations
and
the
recall,
you
know
the
issue
here
was
you
know
the
kind
of
the
disconnect
between
properties
annexing
from
Pinellas
County
into
the
City
and
whose
applications
the
rules
apply
and
ultimately,
what
we've
landed
on
is
it's
an
either
or
either
you
develop
in
the
county,
and
we
Annex
you
in
at
the
end
or
you
we
give.
We
will
give
you
an
annexation
agreement
and
I'm
sorry,
either
I'm.
F
Sorry,
let
me
start
over
either
you
Annex
into
the
city
completely
as
vacant
land
and
you
develop
under
our
rules
and
regulations,
or
we
can
give
you
an
annexation
agreement
and
you
can
develop
fully
under
Pinellas
County's
rules,
and
then
we
Annex
you
in
after
the
after
everything
is
completed.
Coed,
you
know
Soup
To
Nuts
in
the
county.
F
F
F
If
somebody
wants
to
Annex
into
the
city
really
the
biggest
I
think
the
biggest
one
there
is
number
four,
including
you
know
the
history
or
status
of
any
Pinellas
County
Code,
Enforcement
actions,
anything
like
that
that
would
have
bearing
on
the
city
annexing
that
in
so
those
are
things
that
we
can
review
in
making
the
decision,
whether
or
not
we
think
it's
prudent
to
Annex
a
property
in
and
then
20801
is
just
changing
some
verbiage
to
be
more
up
to
date
with
how
we,
the
inner
city,
Intercounty,
interlocal,
planning
agreement
really
doesn't
exist
anymore.
C
My
first
question:
maybe
more
of
a
comment
really
is
I
I,
don't
see
that
this
entirely
addresses
the
the
heartburn
that
I
had
with
the
situation,
at
least
because
we're
still
in
a
situation
where,
after
they
build
it
out,
we
have
to
Annex
it
and
part
of
my
heartburn
with
the
whole
situation.
Was
that
I
think
it's
wrong
for
them
to
be
able
to
finish
a
project
under
Pinellas
County
ordinances
that
different
from
ours?
And
then
we
have
no
choice
but
to
Annex
it
after
it's
done.
F
I
can't
we
we
don't
have
to
my
understanding
to
tell
the
county
to
not
like
you
know.
Someone
applies
for
a
building
permit
in
Pinellas
County
unless
we
have
some
sort
of
an
interlocal
agreement
with
them.
That
says:
they're
not
going
to
do
X,
Y
or
Z,
then
we're
we're
kind
of
stopped.
All
we
can
do
is
try
to
provide
a
bright
line,
and
so
that's
what
we've
at
least
brought
forward
at
this
point.
Okay,.
F
D
Mr
Stevens
concerns
is
when
you
talk
about
having
them.
If
you
know
prior
to
development,
they
come
into
an
annexation
agreement.
F
D
F
D
F
Generally
speaking,
the
the
land
use
that
underlies
these
things
controls
the
density
and
what
density
it
has
in
Pinellas,
County,
generally
Will
Roll
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
upon
annexation,
they're
generally
they're,
not
trying
they're,
not
amending
the
land
use.
You
know
to
something
higher.
F
If
they're
going
to
do
something
like
that,
then
they
need
to
have
an
annexation
agreement
that
probably
goes
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
before
they
would
even
go
through
some
a
process
like
that.
So
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
I'll
defer
to
the
attorney.
If
she
has
any
more
insight
into
this
annexation.
Conundrum
I
I
know
that
I
knew
I
was
missing
the
mark,
but
I'm
I'm
kind
of
at
a
point
of
where
I
can't
do
much
more
with.
D
Etc,
then,
when,
when
it
comes
time
for
utilities,
oh
by
the
way
we
need
utilities,
we're
annexing
and,
and
our
you
know
our
Board
of
adjustment.
You
know
the
requirements
that
the
city
had
they
they
did,
they
would
Bypass
or
could
bypass
because
they
were
at
the
calorie
level.
Now
we're
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
bringing
them
into
the
into
the
City
without
right.
So.
H
C
Where
it
was
mostly
related
to
setbacks
and
the
the
can't
undersun
circumstances
in
some
districts,
the
the
County's
setback
requirements
are
are
significantly
more
lacks
than
ours
are,
and
people
building
right
next
to
people
that
are
in
the
city
or
getting
away
with
setbacks
that
that
don't
comply
with
the
setbacks
on
properties
adjacent
to
it
and
in
one
case
a
larger
development.
You
know
was
probably
able
to
actually
physically
put
put
more
homes
on
the
space,
because
the
setbacks
were
less
than
what
the
city
would
have
required.
So
I
mean.
C
H
G
Jurisdiction
is
a
legal
animal
and
if
they
are
in
the
County's
jurisdiction,
then
that's
the
law
that
that
is
going
to
apply
to
them
right,
it's
not
until
they
enter
into
the
city
that
your
law
would
apply
and
you're
not
required.
Now.
One
thing
you
should
know
is
absent.
Your
code
Provisions
in
terms
of
General
law,
there's
not
a
requirement
to
Annex
in
properties
outside
the
city
that
are
receiving
city
services
right
now.
Generally,
you
want
to
do
that
because
you
want
the
tax
dollars.
F
A
A
Of
the
annexation
that
we
were
going
to
eliminate
that
clause
and
forgive
me
because
I
would
love
to
hear
our
Council
repeat
that
statement,
that
is
in
opposition
to
what
we've
been
hearing
before
that,
and
this
might
be
how
I
was
interpreting
it
that
we
had
no
choice.
We
were
told
on
multiple
occasions:
if
they're
adjacent,
we
must
Annex
but
but
I
thought
I.
F
B
G
Yeah
this
the
statute
actually
has
different
Provisions
for
forced
annexations
versus
voluntary
annexations
and
I
will
tell
you
that,
just
throughout
the
history
of
Pinellas
County,
there
have
been
mostly
voluntary,
annexations
versus
forced
ones
and
forced
ones
usually
occur
via,
like
a
referendum
like
what
the
City
of
St
Petersburg
tried
to
do
to
Tierra
Verde
down
there,
where
you
know,
goes
to
the
voters
and
they
decide
as
a
group
whether
or
not
they
wanted
to
come
into
the
city
or
not
right.
G
So
those
those
are
a
little
bit
more
forced
and
they
can
force
that
through
certain
kinds
of
referendums,
but
voluntary
annexations,
which
are
typically
what
you
see
throughout
the
county
and
throughout
the
history
of
the
county,
have
to
meet
certain
criteria
and
those
criteria
are
not
just
the
criteria
area
that
are
in
your
code,
there's
also
statutory
Provisions
that
they
have
to
meet.
In
order
to
to
do
this,
and
some
of
them
are
echoed
in
the
code
that
you
have
presented
to
you
things
like
you
know
they
want
to
eliminate
enclaves.
G
That's
that's
an
overall
overarching
goal
because
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
like
that
little
donut
hole
in
the
middle
of
you
know
your
city,
that's
another
jurisdiction
or
unincorporated
County
right,
so
it
makes
more
sense
and
it's
better
for
everybody.
If
we
do
things
to
eliminate
things
like
enclaves
right,
but
that
also
came
is
how
the
provisions
came
about
that
read
that
it
has
to
be
adjacent
now
it
has
to
be
adjacent
in
order
to
qualify.
Now
this
is
under
General
law.
This
isn't
under
your
code.
G
It
has
to
be
adjacent
to
qualify
for
annexation,
not
not
that
adjacent
properties
are
mandatory
annexations.
They
do
have
provisions
of
General
law
and
State
Statute
that
allow
you
to
have
city
services
being
provided
outside
of
your
jurisdiction.
B
G
Can
be
a
lot
of
reasons
why
you
want
to
have
that
policy
I
as
somebody
who
has
always
represented
Municipal
governments
versus
unincorporated
County
right,
my
preference
is
always
to
bring
them
into
the
city
right,
get
the
tax
dollars
get
your
city,
bigger,
grow,
grow,
your
municipality
right
and,
and
unfortunately,
sometimes
that
does
result
in
in
non-conforming
properties
and
what
Miss
Vincent
was
describing
too
in
terms
of
the
land
use.
Is
you
also
have
to
remember?
You
know
you
are
not
an
island
right.
G
You
are
part
of
this
greater
future
land
use
map
that
covers
the
entire
County
and
provides
for
land
use
designations
that
do
cap,
your
densities
and
and
if
you
have
properties
that
want
to
exceed
those
densities,
they
don't
just
have
to
come
through
your
city
process.
G
They
also
have
to
go
before
the
County
Commission
I
know
in
certain
areas
too,
that
are
particularly
flood
zone
flood
zone
prone
that
there's
a
very
hard
line
of
we're
not
going
to
increase
densities
in
flood-prone
areas,
because
it
creates
all
kinds
of
problems,
and-
and
some
of
that
you
know
you
start
to
address
and
the
things
that
you've
added
into
your
code,
where
it
talks
about
providing
for
the
shelters
and
things
like
that
and
some
other
ordinances
that
we're
going
to
discuss
tonight.
Okay,.
F
C
B
I
Think,
I'm,
sorry
I'm!
Sorry,
oh
Nick,
I'm!
Sorry!
So
if
it
wasn't
mandatory
and
it
can
be
voluntary,
then
can
we
put
language
in
that
that
requires
them
to
comply
with
our
ordinance,
even
though
they're
applying
with
Pinellas
County
as
long
as
we
get
them.
If
they're
voluntarily
wanting
to
Annex
into
the
city,
then
we
should
ask
the
county:
they
need
to
comply
with
our
ordinance
and
since
ultimately,
they're
going
to
end
up
in
our
in
our
the.
F
H
G
In
areas
where
they
may
differ
from
the
Florida
building
code
and
I
I
know
as
a
matter
of
policy
that
Pinellas
County
has
been
opting
not
to
do
that
anymore.
They
don't
want
to
be
the
building
official
for
municipalities.
They
don't
want
to
enforce
Municipal
codes.
They
want
that
to
be
the
responsibility
of
the
municipalities
right
and
we
cannot
go
outside
of
our
jurisdiction
to
enforce
our
codes
for
properties
that
they
technically
do
not
apply
for,
even
if
they're
contractual,
because
we
again
it
gets
back
to
that
jurisdiction
issue
and
what
law
applies.
But.
I
F
So
and
if
they
voluntarily
do
that
before
they
build
great,
but
nothing
stops
an
applicant
from
going
to
Pinellas
County
applying
for
a
building
permit
submitting
their
permits
getting
their
reviews
getting
building
permits
and
through
that
process,
then
they
say:
oh
you
know,
or
you
know,
that
oh
it's
water,
it's
City
account.
It
was
City,
Water
and
Sewer
at
the
point
that
they
were
saying
again.
It's
it's
a
matter
of
that
we
can't
make
them
it.
A
F
What
you're,
gonna
I
mean
I
just
I
I'll
respectfully.
Disagree
that
that's
what's
going
on,
but
anyway,
the
other
issue
that
we
have
when
you're
talking
about
requirements.
Okay,
there's
virtually
little
to
no
difference
between
building
code
between
the
county
and
is
that
we're
all
using
the
Florida
building
code.
So
this
boils
down
to
setbacks
things
like
setbacks.
So
here's
the
problem,
I,
don't
know
until
that
property
actually
gets
annexed
in
what
the
zoning
in
the
city
is
going
to
end
up
being
I
know
what
it
might
be.
F
I
can
I
can
rationalize
that,
it's
probably
going
to
be.
It
would
be
most
logical
to
be
r100
or
r100a
or
whatever,
but
I
don't
know
that
until
it
goes
through
a
process.
The
only
thing
that
applies
at
that
point
in
time
is
the
county,
and
so
that's
that's
the
problem
that
we've
always
had
with
this.
So
but.
I
F
Yes,
fundamentally,
it
doesn't
take
that
long,
but
I
mean
again
you're
asking
you're
asking
someone
to
to
then
go,
buy
something
that's
not
in
Pinellas
County
and
could
still
end
up
getting
changed
somewhere
down
the
road
coming
into
the
city
of
Tarpon
I
mean
it's
just
not
a
guarantee
and
that's
it's.
It's
squishy.
I
It's
giving
them
a
choice,
whereas
before
it's
not
giving
them
a
choice,
they
got
the
way.
It
reads:
they've
got
two
choices,
but
it
all
leads
to
the
same
result
they
have
to.
We
have
to
accept
what
they
build
by
Pinellas
County
codes
and
bring
it
in.
So
why
can't
it
be
written
in
a
way
that
we
give
them
two
choices?
They
can
choose
to
Annex
in
go
by
our
codes
or
you
don't
and
you
choose
the
risk
of.
You
may
not
be
able
to
Annex
into
the
city.
F
I
think
that's
I
mean
that's
fundamentally,
that's
kind
of
how
it's
written
right,
I
mean
it's
written
as
you
either
nxn
and
go
through
our
process
and
our
and
our
and
our
cook,
because
you'll
come
in
with
the
zoning
at
that
point
or
you
fully
develop
an
unincorporated
County
under
their
rules
and
at
the
end
of
the
process
you
can
apply
to
Annex
in
and
we'll
give
you
I
mean,
but
we
have
to
give.
We
have
to
give
them
utilities.
I
H
C
G
This
Pinellas
County
would
be
responsible
for
enforcement
until
they
actually
complete
the
annexation
process.
Now
one
thing
that
they
can
do
is
have
a
private
provider
type
agreement
to
serve
as
their
building
official
to
certify,
but
that's
a
that
can
be,
in
some
cases
an
extreme
expense
for
somebody.
That's
developing
property
to
to
hire
basically
somebody
who's
going
to
do
inspections
under
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
code.
So.
F
If
we,
if
we
under
the
review
criteria
for
annexations,
we've
expanded
that
somewhat,
but
we
could
add
so
we
have
number
four,
the
history
or
status
of
any
Pinellas
County
Code
Enforcement
actions
or
violations
that
may
cause
an
undue
burden.
Such
actions
is
included
but
are
not
limited
to
unpermitted
construction
team
of
violations,
non-conforming
uses
and
illegal
or
prohibited
uses
that
that's
like
somebody
did
something
without
any
permits
or
anything,
but
the
not
technically.
D
D
It
developed
be
incorporated
into
Tarpon
Springs,
so
there
is
opportunity
for
larger
developments
to
possibly
happen
like
like
George
George
and
azuzen
estamos
are
doing
over
there
off
of
Keystone
I
could
see.
You
know
that
that's
beside
the
point
is
at
the
county
level,
all
right
when
they're
going
through
the
county.
Does
the
county
notify
them
to
look?
If
you
need
utilities
you're
going
to
have
to
apply
at
Tarpon
Springs
the.
F
Is
there
an
official
notification,
I
I,
don't
know,
I
do
know
that
when
someone
has
pre-app
meetings
and
we've
I've
actually
joined
pre-op
meetings
with
Pinellas
County
with
properties
that
are
in
our
Incorporated
County,
we
have
a
good
report.
We
can.
We
can
do
that,
but
I
can't
require
them
to
you
know
to
do
anything
they
will.
They
will
generally
say
hey.
You
need
to
know
that
this
is
you're
going
to
require
any
utilities.
So
you
need
to
go
talk
to
the
city
so.
D
I,
don't
know
see,
I,
don't
know
if
they
do
it
at
the
county,
to
put
them
on
notice
that
for
your
utilities,
you're
going
to
have
to
apply
to
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
for
utility,
it's
and
the
City
of
Tarpon
Springs
requires
that
you're
going
to
have
to
get
utilities.
This
is
what
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
requires.
It's
not
what
the
county
requires.
It's
what
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
requires
and
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
notice
provision
and
that-
and
that
takes
the
onus
off
the
county.
D
To
be
honest
with
you,
because
they're
not
saying
you've
got
to
do
this,
you
got
to
do
that
they're
just
telling.
Whoever
is
going
to
be
this
area,
applying
that's
going
to
need
utilities,
oh
by
the
way,
if
you're
going
to
secure
utilities
from
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs,
a
annexation
may
be
required
if
you're
going
to
Annex.
This
is
what
the
city
requires.
F
All
that
they
will
generally
tell
them
is
that
and
it
honestly
it
varies
from
from
the
type
of
the
permit.
If
it's
a
single
family
house,
it's
just
applied
to
the
building
department,
no
they're,
they're,
eventually
they're
going
to
be
told.
Oh
gee,
you
need
a
utility
availability
or
something
like
that
for
a
major
development.
That's
what
I'm
talking
about!
That's
that's
a
little.
They
those
the
development
Folks
at
least
that
they're.
F
D
F
F
D
D
Okay,
it's
relationship
purposes.
D
So
what
you're
saying
in
in
here
or
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
you're
going
to
get
that
single.
That
person
who
has
a
lot
they
want
to
build
and
they're
going
to
need
Annex
those
aren't
the
ones
that
are
really
of
issue
it's
when
we
get
to
the
developers
who
are
going
are
coming
in
and
because
you
know
when
they,
when
they
do
the
the
the
lot
lines,
the
site,
the
setbacks,
all
that
stuff,
where
they
try
to
pack
them
in
those
are
the
concerns
that
I
think
this.
This
board
has.
H
F
H
I
The
where
I
think
it
needs
rewarding
is
where
it
explains
all
of
the
you
know:
I
see
the
history
or
status
of
the
Pinellas
County
Code
Enforcement
actions
or
violations
that
may
cause
an
undue
burden
on
the
cities
such
as
success.
Such
actions
include,
but
not
limited
to
unpermitted
construction,
FEMA
violations,
non-conforming
issues
uses
and
I
think
there
would
just
need
to
be
more
descriptive
about
the
non-conforming.
I
J
How,
as
the
potential
Authority
having
jurisdiction
of
something
that
is
eventually
annexed,
how
proactive
can
we
be
at
the
time
of
application
to
say
you're
at
the
crossroads?
Now,
if
you
want
to
go
left
and
go
with
us,
whether
it's
utilities
and
other
public
services,
or
you
want
to
go
right
and
stick
with
the
county,
can
we
compel
them
at
that
time
to
make
a
decision,
in
which
case
we
could
compel
them
to
adopt
our
zoning.
F
F
It's
just
not
you
know,
it
hasn't
been.
You
know
codified
at
this
point,
but
we
can't
we
can't
I
can't
tell
them.
You
know
that
they
need
to
meet
our
setbacks.
If
they're
developing
in
Pinellas
County,
no.
J
B
B
We
are,
we
kind
of
know
in
advance,
all
the
properties
that
at
some
point,
are
going
to
have
to
be
annexed
if
they're
developed
right,
because
we
know,
if
there's
a
lot
sitting
right
here
on
the
on
our
border.
We
know
that
that
if
they
build
something
there
they're
going
to
have
to
tap
in
right
because
we
know
of
the
most
likely
most
likely,
we.
F
B
H
B
We
think
this
development
is
so
adverse,
but
it's
right
on
our
city
limits.
Yet
it's
not
in
the
city.
It
has
whatever
adverse
effect.
It
would
have
on
our
quality
of
life,
meaning
it
could
create
more
traffic.
It
could
create
whatever
right
it
does.
So
let
me
let
me
finish
my
thought
so
so
it
it's
it
all.
This
is
like
a
rhetorical
kind
of
nothing
because
they're
going
to
build
what
they're
going
to
build
they
go
to
the
county
county
gives
them
whatever
restrictions
they
have
and
they
build
what
they
build.
B
We
could
possibly
charge
more
for
the
services
right
to
make
it
more
punitive.
We
do.
We
can
make
it
more
punitive
right,
it's
possible.
We
could
go
higher
on
and
make
it
more
punitive
to
them,
but
the
the
building
is
there.
B
So,
as
in
the
big
scheme
of
things,
is
it
more
advantageous
for
us
to
bring
them
into
the
City
and
get
tax
dollars
from
something?
Even
though
we
don't
like
it?
That's
what's
going
to
happen,
I,
don't
think
again
like
jurisdiction.
We
can't
go
to
Pinellas
County
unless
they
want
to
work
with
us,
but
you
say
that
they're
most
less
likely
to
want
to
do
that
this.
B
This
is
kind
of
a
rhetorical
loop
we're
in,
but
we
the
things
we
can
affect
are
the
prices
we
charge
for
that
those
services
and
we
could
affect
it
and
make
it
a
little
more
punitive
to
them,
and
maybe
at
that
point
they
might
want
to.
You
know
to
be
a
little
more
they'd
have
more
of
an
incentive
to,
and
maybe
we
could
have
some
kind
of
discretion
on
those
things
and
again,
I,
don't
know,
that's
something
you
would
tell
me
legally.
B
Maybe
there
could
be
more
discretion
on
those
things,
because
you
could
say
if
they
participate
with
us
in
trying
in
advance,
then
we
would
charge
them
X.
However,
if
they
choose
to
go
forward
and
they're
going
to
be
work,
they're
going
to
be
forcing
annexation,
we're
letting
you
know
that,
because
you're
proceeding
in
a
certain
way
that
that's
not
something
that
we're
happy
with
it's
going
to
be
more
I,
don't
know
I'm,
just
I'm
thinking
out
loud
and
I'm,
just
I
I'm.
Just
trying
to.
B
To
happen
anyway,
so
this
whole
thing
that,
whether
again,
whether
they
build
on
the
other
side
of
this
line,
something
we
don't
like
and
they
don't
come
in
the
city-
it's
still
there
and
it
still
affects
us
in
the
same
way.
So
whether
we
now
we
get
tax
dollars
because
we
Annex
them
in
and
I
understand
the
frustration
because
I've
had
the
same
frustration,
you
know
I
voted
no
on
something
that
not
too
long
ago,
because
I
it
made
me
mad.
G
Legally,
what
you're
getting
close
to
is
creating
almost
like
a
a
punitive
type
fee.
H
G
H
B
F
Well,
so
that's
exactly
I
mean
right
now,
that's
exactly
how
it's
set
up.
If,
if
you
are
in
unincorporated
County
and
you
are
receiving
City
Utilities,
you
are
paying
a
30
surcharge.
The
max
estate
will
allow
us
to
charge
you're
paying
a
30
surcharge
every
month
on
your
utility
bills
directly
to
the
city
of
Tarpon.
If
you
Annex
in
that
30
goes
away,
but.
B
B
F
H
G
It's
it
doesn't
come
across.
It
comes
across
as
a
benefit.
You
know
if
you
could
waive
certain
fees
now
you
can't
do
that
in
this
particular
ordinance.
You'd
have
to
address
that
in
your
fee
schedule
which
I'm
not
sure
I'd
have
to
look
to
see
because
I
don't
think
you
all
look
at
the
fee
schedule
at
all.
A
B
D
That
it
correct
me
from
wrong
everybody.
We
want
the
ability
to
say
no
to
annexation
because
you
you
did
not
comply
or
we
don't.
We
don't
like
the
way
you
who
agrees.
You
know
whether
you're
setbacks
or
whatever
so
you're
going
to
be
stuck,
even
though
we
want
your
tax
revenue.
We
may
not
want
you
in
this
city,
but
we're
going
to
take
your
30
percent
utility
for
your
utility.
F
D
B
Where
we
could
actually
work
with
them
on
discounting
or
waiving
fees
to
encourage
to
also
have
an
encouragement
to
them
to
work
with
our
staff
like
in
the
again
in
the
big
picture,
if
I
build
something
over
here
under
this
in
the
county,
regardless
of
whether
I
bring
it
in
the
city
or
not,
it
still
has
the
same
effect
on
our
quality
of
life
regardless
so
I
think,
that's
you
know
it's
whether
it's
unfortunate
or
not,
it's
just
I
think
it's
a
fact
of
life,
so.
C
Do
we
have
any
further
board
questions
of
staff
discussion?
So
how
do
we
proceed
now?
We
well
we
call
public
comments
which
clearly
we
don't
have
any,
and
at
this
point
then
I
need
a
motion
and
a
second.
The
motion
must
be
in
the
affirmative,
but
obviously
you
can
choose
to
vote
against
it
when
it
comes
to
a
vote,
then
after
we
have
the
motion
in
second,
we
can
have
board
discussion.
D
To
actually
to
not
approve
this
as
read,
because
I
think
we
would
want
to
see
some
changes
and
have
it
deferred
and
have
it
come
back
to
us
with
those
changes.
I
think
that
we
just
we
agreed
on.
G
D
G
Recommend
denial
and
come
back
with
something
else:
yeah,
but.
D
G
So
what
you
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
what
you're
sending
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
is
clear
in
terms
of
the
basis
for
your
denial
and
then
they
can
take
their
action
for
there.
So
if
the
basis
of
your
denial
is
that
you
would
like
to
see
revisions
and
what
those
revisions
would
be,
I
would
suggest,
including
it
in
the
motion.
So
then
that
could
be
appropriately
communicated
to.
D
Them
fair
enough,
and
that
would
be
my
motion
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
specific
language
I'll.
Let
the
Wordsmith
word:
Smithers
come
up
with
the
language.
B
Why
don't
we
are
you
making
a
motion?
Why.
B
D
F
I
G
G
F
D
G
That's
that's
under
two
2.5,
so.
D
To
pull
this
matter
to
continue
with
revisions.
Second,.
I
H
D
You
have,
there
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
get
that
your
annexation
be
denied
yeah.
F
B
C
G
You
close
public
comment
when
you
close
the
public
hearing
portion
and
that's
when
the
motion
is
made
so
technically.
The
public
hearing
is
closed.
That's
correct.
A
I
question
that,
because,
like
anything,
what
we
take
now,
there's
ultimately
a
bill
that
has
to
be
paid
in
the
future
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
the
city
is
signing
up
for
debt
in
the
future.
That
will
struggle
to
be
paid
some
complex
words
to
say:
hey.
Maybe
growth
isn't
always
the
best
option
and
then,
in
addition,
perhaps
a
clarification
in
regards
to
adjacent.
A
Why
are
we
annexing
something
that
has
a
hundred
foot
a
lot
line,
but
there's
a
hundred
homes
that
are
part
of
that,
and
that
concerns
me
in
regards
to
the
annexation
and
that
drove
some
of
my
initial
stuff
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
whole
different
ideas
and
discussions,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
can
be
incorporated
Incorporated
in
any
way.
Perhaps
it
can't,
but
I
think
that
it
at
least
is
thought
process
as
we
really
unpack
annexations.
We.
A
Could
I'm
just
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
as
to?
Why
are
we
doing
that?
I
B
I
mean
we
there
could
be
and
again
I
I
may
be
way
off,
but
if
something
is
getting
built,
that's
so
egregious
not
not
that
somebody,
you
know
you
know
we
we
allow
10
foot,
setbacks
and
they're.
You
know
they're
getting
in
with
five,
but
that
that's
frustrating,
but
it's
not
the
end
of
the
world.
B
Stuff
I
mean
something
could
be
built,
that's
so
egregious
or
so
that
affects
us
so
adversely
to
where
we
have
some
affected
party
status
that
we
would
actually
go
to
court
over
I.E
this,
this
Disneyland
on
the
ankle
that
they
want
to
build,
that
the
counties
building
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
part
of
annexation
but
would
have.
This
could
have
a
very
adverse
effect
on
a
lot
of
our
quality
of
life.
B
Do
you
guys
you
especially
that
it
uses
that
Waterway
and
and
and
having
you
know,
a
a
hundred
jet
skis
flying
out
right
at
the
mouth
of
the
of
the
ankle
River
I
mean
in
cases
like
that
that
things
that
to
our
that
we
see
is
so
egregious,
then
you
know,
then
we
have
other
avenues
right
where
we
would
have.
You
know
possibly
affected
party
status
that
we
could
actually
go
to
court
and
try
to
get
an
injunction
against
it.
So
so
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
a
development.
B
That
again
has
you
know
five
foot
setbacks
instead
of
ten
and
we're,
and
we
get
all
angry
over
that
we
thought
we
were
gamed,
it's
it's
something
that
we're
just
kind
of
stuck
with
in
life
I
mean,
and
we
can
do
all
the
language
we
want.
But
at
some
point
it's
gonna
we're
gonna
have
a
constant
frustration,
but
we
have
to
kind
of
live
with
it
at
the
point.
B
Somebody's
building,
something
that
again
is
so
egregious
that
it
affects
our
quality
of
life
or
whatever
to
the
point
where
we
think
we
have
affected
party
status,
can
go
to
court
and
try
to
stop
them.
That's
a
whole
other
story
right
so
I
think
that
you
know
you're
gonna.
We
can
put
whatever
we
want
in
here
and
I.
Think
it's
good
that
we
do
that.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
against
all
this
language
stuff,
but
I
think
we
have
to
kind
of
put
it
in
perspective.
It's
just
going
to
be
life
right.
B
Things
are
get
built
around
us
they're,
going
to
use
our
utilities,
we're
going
to
they're
going
to
tap
in
we're
going
to
either
take
them
in
we're
not
going
to
take
them
in
most
likely.
We
end
up
taking
them
in
because
it's
once
it's
already
built
anyways
it's
there,
and
then
we
get
some
kind
of
a
tax
benefit
for
from
doing
that.
So
it's
just
I
know
it's
I!
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
constant
frustration.
I'm
frustrated,
I
voted
against
annexation
on
some
properties
that
I
thought.
B
C
There's
no
further
discussion.
Can
we
have
a
roll
call
and
remember
a
yes
vote?
Is
voting
to
deny
Specialists.
E
C
H
D
I
think
this
one's
probably
the
most
the
most
of
the
the
discussion
tonight,
will
be
around
what
we
just
discussed.
Yeah.
B
December
12th
is
a
Monday
definition.
No
14th
of
the
Wednesday.
I
A
C
Okay,
because
there's
no
further
discussion,
can
we
have
a
roll
call
Mr.
A
D
C
C
G
Ordinance
2022-23
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code,
article
12,
section
205.00,
General
Provisions,
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
first
reading
and
public
hearing
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
F
Okay,
so
this
set
of
ordinance
changes
speaks
to
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
any
guidance
in
our
ordinances
about
when
you
have
multiple
applications
that
are
required
for
single
development
project,
so
you
might
have
a
rezoning.
A
land
use
a
plan
development,
a
conditional
use
of
variance
whatever
a
site
plan,
there's
no
order
of
operations.
So
to
speak
as
to
what
comes
first
in
the
process.
Can
things
be
packaged
together?
Can
they
not
sometimes
you
know
it
could
be
advantageous
to
have
them
packaged
up
and
sometimes
not?
F
So
what
and
there's
not
a
again.
This
is
not
one
of
these
things
where
there's
not
really
a
bright
line
as
to
so
what
what
we're
proposing
is
that,
where
more
than
one
application
type
is
required
for
development
project,
the
city
manager
or
designee
may
specify
the
order
and
timing
in
which
applications
are
scheduled
for
public
hearings
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
Board
of
Commissioners
so
and
we
put
Provisions
in
the
future
land
you
can.
We
can
require
a
future
land
use
map
to
basically
travel
on
its
own.
F
So
if
you're
going
to
change
the
future
land
use,
you
need
to
look
at
it
alone
or
you
know,
or
it
could
travel
with
something
else,
but
this
is
a
descript.
The
way
it's
written
is
discretionary
right
now,
so
that
we
have
the
ability,
if
it's
just
a
little
a
small
project
where
it
makes
sense.
That's
one
thing,
but
if
you're
doing
a
major
land
use
Amendment
on
20
or
30
Acres,
maybe
want
to
look
at
that
in
its
in
its
on
its
own.
Without
anything
else,
cluttering
up
the
agent.
F
You
know
cluttering
up
that
particular
application.
Does
it
meet
the
comp
plan
or
not
so,
we've
tried
to
you
know
preliminary
plan
developments
have
to
be
approved
prior
to
final
plan
development
and
or
may
not
appear
on
the
same
agenda
again
in
the
past.
Sometimes
you've
seen
we've
seen
developers
because
there's
nothing.
It
says
so.
F
They'll
apply
for
preliminary
and
final
plan
development
all
at
the
same
time,
so
we're
just
trying
to
be
able
to
have
the
ability
to
to
pull
these
apart
so
that
you're
getting
them
in
discrete
bytes
of
of
you
know,
pieces
of
information,
a
site
plan
that
also
requires
a
variance
she'll,
obtain
a
variance
approval
prior
to
site
plan
approval.
So
you
go
to
the
board
of
adjustments.
First,.
D
F
Oh
okay,
the
and
then
you
know
again
if
you've
got
to
go
to
Heritage
preservation
board,
you
need
to
do
that
prior
to
site,
plan,
approval
and
then
I
think,
most
importantly,
development
projects
which
require
both
a
quasi-judicial
and
a
legislative
application.
You
can
require
those
to
have
separate
public
hearings
and
or
not
appear
on
the
same
agenda,
so
we
tried
to
put
some.
You
know,
leave
some
discretion
in,
but
put
it
in
ordinance
what
we
can
do.
D
F
So
Heritage
preservation
board
is
a
certificate.
It's
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
or
certificate
of
approval.
If
it's
a
property,
that's
in
the
historic
district
and
requires
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Let's
say
it's
a
historic
property
and
they're
going
to
do
a
building
addition
to
it.
Yeah
they
have
they.
Would
they.
F
G
F
G
Could
be
because
of
the
requirements
that
they
have
for
historic
buildings,
there
could
be
cost
considerations
and
other
things
that
are
incident
to
the
historic
preservation
that
could
cause
ultimately
a
change
in
the
site
plan
or
could
cause
them
to
have
to
go
back
back
to
square
one.
So,
essentially,
if
they
come
before,
you.
D
All
first,
can
you
give
me
an
example
when
I'm
talking
about
site
plan
I'm,
not
talking
about
about
the
design
of
a
building
right.
F
The
the
cohatch
project
we
just
had
that
project
required
it
required
a
variance
and
it
required
HPB
approval
for
the
addition,
and
it
still
had
to
have
site
plan.
You
know
and
conditional
use
approval
through
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
and
board
of
commissioner,
so
it
had
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
to
it.
F
F
F
I
G
You're,
you
are
correct,
I
think
for
the
h.
The
HPV
has
its.
F
Own,
it
just
says
a
site
plan
which
requires
a
certificate
of
approval,
shall
obtain
Heritage
preservation,
board
approval
prior
to
site
plan
approval
for
what
they
review,
that
that
is
true.
That's,
that
is
the
certificate
of
approval.
That's
exactly
what
that
like!
That's
what
they
do.
They
are
only
that
is.
D
G
F
They're
yeah
they
what
they're
required
to
submit
they
have
a
separate
set
of
requirements
for
submission
that
is
different
than
site
plan.
Approval
got
it
generally
speaking,
they're
going
to
have
to
have
a
you
know.
At
least
a
rudimentary
they're
gonna
have
to
have
a
site
plan,
a
concept
plan,
at
least,
if
they're
doing
a
building
Edition.
So
we
can
see
what's
going
on
if
they're
doing
a
building
Edition
exactly.
A
Why
this
city
manager
would
determine
that
in
lieu
of
you
or
someone
that
maybe
had
a
more
nuanced
understanding
of
the
complexity
of
those
applications,
because
I
would
think
that
the
city
manager
has
that
power
right
now
and
that's
what's
kind
of
led
us
into
this
box
canyon.
With
these
grouped
applications.
F
F
F
I'm,
a
designee
exactly
you
know,
so
in
all
reality
you
know
it's
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
fall
on
me,
but
I.
Think.
The
point
here
also
is
that
you
know
it's
going
to
be
in
consultation
with
probably
with
city
manager.
If
it's,
if
it's
either
small
projects
where
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
separate
them
out,
so
we're
looking
for
discretion.
That's
the
way
we
built
it
in
if
you're
uncomfortable
with
that,
then
help
me
read
Wordsmith.
That
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
say
the
planning
director.
F
That's
fine,
I,
just
I
think.
The
other
reason
that
we
like
to
use
city
manager
or
designee
is
quite
frankly,
titles
change,
but
city
manager
generally
is
never
going
to
change
a
title.
It's
always
going
to
be
a
city
manager.
We've
had
development
review
services
and
planning
was
a
part
of
development
review.
F
Services
we've
had
now
we
have
Building
Development,
we've
had
public
works
as
a
whole,
then
we
had
public
services
and
then
we
had
Public
Works
and
public
services
so
specifying
a
per
it's
it's
cleaner
in
the
long
run
to
say,
city
manager
or
designee
I'm
going
to
be
the
designee
at
this
point.
Did
that
help.
G
Any
a
lot
of
times
too,
when
you're
dealing
with
an
official
and
your
city
manager
I
believe,
is
a
charter
Charter
official
pursuant
to
your
city,
Charter.
So
there's
a
certain
amount
of
vested
discretionary
Authority.
That
goes
along
with
that,
which
is
why
a
lot
of
that's
that's
vested
in
them
by
the
voters,
which
is
why
you
will
typically
see
in
the
Land
Development
code
that
position
or
designee.
G
But
you
can
word
it
that
way
if
you
wanted
to
have
it
specifically
to
the
planning
director.
But
what
she
is
saying
is
accurate
is
that
some
of
your
are
administrative
titles
may
change
from
time
to
time,
but
your
city
manager
is
always
going
to
be
your
city
manager
and
they
have
plenary
authority
and
discretionary
authority
vested
through
the
charter.
H
C
B
G
B
A
C
All
right
that
brings
us
to
application,
22109
ordinance,
number
2022-24
concerning
Coastal
High,
Hazard
area
and
hurricane
shelter
impact
studies.
Our
attorney
will
read
the
item
by
title.
Only.
G
Ordinance
number
2022-24,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code;
article
7
amending
section,
122.12,
hurricane
shelter,
impact
study
and
article
9,
adding
section
149.00,
Coastal,
High,
Hazard
area
development
regulations
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
Florida
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
This
is
first
reading
and
public
hearing
before
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
F
Thank
you,
so
orders
22-24
relates
to
the
impacts
of
of
hurricanes.
So
the
first
section
we
already
have
section
122-12
hurricane
shelter
impact
study
requirements
in
the
code.
The
the
the
strike
through
underline
that
you
see
is
to
kind
of
clean
this
section
up
a
little
bit
specify
what
level
of
hurt
when
we're
doing
analysis
we
don't
the
biggest
kind
of
Hiccup
I've
had
for
years
is
that
we
don't
tell
you
what
level
of
Hurricane
to
plan
for
when
you're
trying
to
do
analysis.
F
So
you
know
we
went
with
category
three
as
a
major
hurricane
as
a
basis
to
run
analysis
on
we're
striking
through
data
that
could
third-party
data
that
would
could
come
from
a
private
industry
Association
report.
We
really
want
these
to
come
from
recognized
Emergency
Management.
F
You
know
public
agencies
like
Tampa,
Bay,
Regional
or
or
the
State
of
Florida
for
our
reference
data,
we're
adding
as
a
potential
for
another
potential
for
possible
for
mitigation,
just
direct
payment
of
a
shelter
mitigation
fee.
That's
based
on
the
cost
to
construction
costs
per
at
per
square
foot
at
20
square
foot
per
person
based
upon
International,
Code,
Council,
building
valuation
data.
We
needed
you
know
yeah,
so
it
would
be.
Basically
if
you
needed
to
provide
for
25,
you
know
shelter
spaces.
We
can
at
least
quantify
what
that
is
and
get
a
check.
F
D
At
what
point,
because
you
you
did
a
category
three
hurricane-
is
that
where,
where
Federal,
Emergency
Management
says,
you
start
to
have
to
evacuate,
I
thought
it
was
like
a
two.
F
Well,
I
mean
no,
you
actually,
you
know
you
can
if,
depending
on
where
you
are
and
you're
getting
hit
with,
like
you
know,
a
category
one
hurricane,
a
category,
a
could
evacuate.
This
is
the
problem
with
this
and
this
this
has
been
like
this
for
I.
Don't
this!
This
ordinance
has
been
in
effect
for
30
years.
Probably
there's
I'm
telling
somebody
that
you
need
to
do
this
mitigation
study,
but
I,
don't
know
what
what
your
starting
point
is.
F
E
G
I
had
reviewed
this
before
and
and
how
they
kind
of
came
up
with
the
category
three,
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
Emergency
Management
plans
that
are
in
place
for
Pinellas
County,
and
they
are
discretionary.
So
you
you
can
pick
it
she
she
has
picked
it
based
on
the
level
of
the
hurricane
I
think
you
could
also
probably
pick
it
based
on
flood
zones,
so
you
could
also
probably
say,
if
you're
in
a
flood
zone
a
through
D.
F
F
It
there's
no
there's
no
bright
line
with
that,
so
so
her
hurricane
Ian,
good
example.
You
know
it's
and
that
call
is
made
by
Pinellas
County
as
they
as
the
county-wide
Emergency
Management
agency
that
we
all
are
under
or
under
exactly
they
make
the
call
as
to
when
we're
going
to
evacuate
and
what
level
of
Zone
we're
going
to
evacuate
based
on
the
data
as
it's
coming
in.
F
No,
this
is
just
say:
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
talking
past
each
other.
What
this
is
saying
is
that
so
any
so
any
subdivision,
any
anything,
any
action,
development
order
for
a
project
in
excess
of
50
units.
If
it's
located
in
a
category
a
b
or
c
evacuation
Zone,
you
have
to
do
the
mitigation
study
based
on
a
category
three
and
worse
and
I'm
and
right
now,
but
we
don't
say
when
or
what
you
know
what
so
we're
we're
now.
Typically
ABC
123
categories.
F
D
G
That,
actually
is
a
very
good
point
and
when
you
set
up
these
fees
and
funds,
it's
actually
not
really
a
planning
question.
It's
a
municipal
Finance
question,
because
when
you
have
these
types
of
funds
put
in
place
and
earmarked,
then
they
can
only
be
used
for
those
specific
purposes.
So,
to
the
extent
that
Tarpon
Springs
does
kick
up
to
the
county
for
that
or
does
participate
in
terms
of
providing
supplies
or
other
things
like
that.
Those
would
be
the
types
of
things
that
those
funds
would
have
to
be
used
for.
We.
F
More
than
likely
to
your
point,
yes,
it
would
be
set
up
in
a
fund,
it
would
be
all
it
could
use
be
used
for,
typically,
we
would
work
with.
Excuse
me,
hurricane.
F
I
I
F
This,
this
simply
is
a
way
for
us
to
look
at
projects
that
are
putting
residents
into
a
an
area
where
that
potentially
we're
going
to
have
to
evacuate
in
the
future
and
putting
a
lens
on
it
to
say
you
know
you
you
need
to
look
at.
You
need
to
at
least
evaluate
if
there's
sufficient
shelter
space
at
a
category,
C
Level
with
these
additional
people
and
and
really
that's
kind
of
a
you
know
in
in
that
most
of
the
time
we
will
send
those
you
know
we'll
have
Pinellas
County.
Look
at
those.
F
You
know
the
methodology
and
stuff
anyway,
but
it's
a.
D
F
F
F
D
F
Just
wanted
to
be
have
a
bright
line
in
there
of,
if
you
want
to
just
to
pay
and
go
there
needed
to
be
a
a
methodology
to
calculate
what
it
is
and
so
I
that
and
that
that
square
footage
comes
from
industry
standard
reports
of
what
would
be
expected
for
shelter
yeah.
Exactly
that's
what
was
going
for
on
that
now.
I.
H
C
F
G
G
Ideally,
things
like
the
densities
that
are
already
in
place
in
the
future
land
use
map
and
the
densities
that
are
already
put
into
play
in
both
the
city
and
the
County's
comprehensive
plan
actually
currently
are
supposed
to
take
into
consideration.
Things
like
this
already
be,
but
part
of
the
issue
is
that
you
had
lands
that
were
developed
before
what
we
now
have
as
modern
Emergency
Management.
So
as
the
the
future
land
Muse
map
of
Pinellas
came
up,
they
didn't
have
those
types
of
considerations
in
play.
F
H
F
F
I,
if
you
know,
if
you
know
again,
I'll
carry
any
recommendation
forward
to
the
board.
If
you
you
know,
you
think
that
that
number
needs
to
be
lower
or
would
like
to
at
least
maybe
have
something
for
future
consideration
as
we're
updating
the
overall
comp
plan.
You
know
and
things
of
that
nature
I'd.
D
F
B
F
So
section,
149
and
149.01
are
two
new
sections.
This
is
largely
modeled
after
St
petersburg's,
Land
Development
code,
ordinance
that
they
put
in
place
two
or
three
years
ago
to
although
this
takes
a
little
bit
of
a
different
path,
essentially
what
this
does
if
you're,
developing
multi-family
or
single-family
attached,
and
that
the
single
family
attached
I
think
is
a
discussion
Point
as
to
whether
you
want
to
do
that,
might
include
that
and
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
second,
but
essentially
for
those
projects.
F
You
must,
if
you
are
in
the
coastal,
High
Hazard
area,
you
must
meet
the
coastal
Hazard
area,
design
standards.
So
initially
that
means
building
to
a
next
higher
wind
load
category
under
the
building
code
and
a
minimum
base.
Flood
elevation
of
three
feet
of
plus
three
so
three
feet
above
base
flood
elevation,
so
that's
required
of
all
multi-family
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area
and
single-family
attached.
F
Townhomes
is
the
way
this
is
written
and
then
the
second
piece
of
it
is
if
it's
a
project
and
over
a
certain
size
threshold,
then
you
have
to
start
adding
these
other
other
site
amenities
into,
and
some
of
these
are
more
resiliency
type
things
into
the
project.
So
that's
that's
the
gist
of
of
the
of
the
of
this
Edition.
So
I'll
stop
there
and
we'll
answer
questions.
One.
D
For
sewage,
like
Pinellas
code,
chapter
34,
article
3,
but
anything
that
we
cite
with
regard
to
building
requirements
or
as
amended,
should
be
as
amended
because
as
these
building
codes
become
amended
because,
especially
after
Ian,
you
know,
I
was
talking
to
Nick
the
other
day
about
what
they
learned
from
this.
And
you
know,
for
example,
the
air
conditioning
units.
H
D
H
C
F
F
This
says:
okay
shall
also
require
a
hurricane
shelter
impact
study.
I
think
the
intent
there
is
is
that
this
doesn't
get
you
a
walk
out
of
doing
the
mitigation
require
the
study
you
still
need
to
do.
The
mitigation
study,
even
if
you're
complying
with
this
I
think
is
the
intent
of
the
Way
It
Was
Written,
it
may
not
be
reading
quite
did.
H
F
G
H
F
G
I
F
F
Essentially
I
am
a
little
concerned
about,
including
that,
from
the
standpoint
of
long
term,
with
Apartments
you're
going
to
have
apartment
manager
and
associations,
and
things
like
that,
you
may
or
may
not
long
term
have
a
single
family
attached,
because
you
own
the
land
underneath
you
could
end
up
in
a
situation
where
you
don't
have
an
HOA
down
the
road,
and
so
it's
a
this.
This
that's
specific
to.
F
This
is
specific
to
the
re-entry
plans.
I'm,
not
so
sure
that,
having
that
for
single
family
attached
residential
for
the
Long
Haul
is
really
easily
to
easy
to
manage,
like
I
said,
with
a
multi-family
you're
going
to
have
apartment
managers,
and
things
like
that,
that
generally
are
going
to
be
taking
that
you
can
go
to
and
reach
out
to
single
family
residential
I
own.
My
lot
I
own,
my
land
and
I
may
or
may
not
for
the
Long
Haul
have
an
HOA
or
something
like
that.
F
F
F
F
I
was
talking
about
paragraph
e
under
149,
the,
so
what
so
it
says,
new
construction
of
multi-family,
residential
dwelling
units
and
single-family
attached
residential
dwelling
units
shall
provide
a
hurricane
evacuation
and
re-entry
plan
requiring
mandatory
evacuation
in
accordance
with
Emergency
Management
directives.
So
it's
a
it's
a
plan
that
you
would,
you
know
and
generally
like
I,
said,
with
apartments
that
make
sense,
but
we're
single
family
or
single
family
attached.
Even
though
they're
they
might
you
know,
look
like
apartments
and
sometimes
or
condos
single
family
attached.
F
I
F
F
F
I
D
G
I
think
it
does
because
you're
saying
it
it
has
to
be
as
required
in
that
section.
So
it's
it's
saying
that
the
requirements
are
contained
in
that
122.12.
A
Not
a
question
but
a
small
detail
of
page
12,
C
Q,
I
I
think
that
perhaps
there's
a
small
typo
under
as
wet
slash,
dry,
P,
Roofing
I,
don't
think.
There's
such
a
thing
as
p-roofing
I
think.
F
H
D
C
H
D
Because,
like
I
said,
if
you're
going
to
develop
10
or
more
you're
the
developer
and
to
re
and
to
strike
out
where
it
says
singles
on
any
with
the
changes
that
as
required
by
what
is
it
122.12
is
I.
Think
that's
the
language
that
you
said,
point
eight!
Okay,
what's
right,
you
point
12
.,.
D
Two
or
it
says,
wet
dry,
it
should
be
flood
proofing,
correct
and
with
that
and.
D
Under
under
this,
under
the
the
building
requirements,
yeah.
I
I
A
H
B
D
C
H
F
Ordinance
2022-25
is
in
regards
to
our
conditional
use
provisions
in
the
Land
Development
code
so
and
I
apologize
that
this
is
small,
because
what
I
ended
up
doing
was
putting
comments
in
the
margins
about
why
some
of
these
changes
were
here.
Essentially,
this
initially
started
out
as
an
ordinance
change
to
to
add
the
requirement
that
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare
is
a
review
criteria
and
that
you
can
make
conditions
related
to
that
as
necessary.
F
So
I
had
direction
to
add
that
into
The
Code
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
the
as
I
researched
this
further
and
some
other
things
were
happening.
I
went
back
into
reviewed,
ordinance,
2019.03
that
was
adopted
not
during
my
tenure
that
made
changes
to
this
specif
specific
section
of
the
code
and
what
that
did
was
it
separated
the
requirement
that
previously,
if
you
had
a
site
plan,
and
it
can,
if
you
had
to
have
a
site
plan
and
a
conditional
use,
they
had
to
run
together
that
got
changed
in
2019..
F
So
what
I'm
rolling
back
the
2000
by
Direction
I'm
kind
of
rolling
back
the
2019
changes
that
were
made
to
bring
the
conditional
use
ordinance
back
to
what
it
was
essentially
and
add
in
the
safe
public
health
safety
and
Welfare
Provisions.
So
that
is
what
the
other
the
other
intent
with
this
was
to
clean
up
the
language
regarding
an
expiration
or
or
when
it
when
a
conditional
use
lapses,
and
how
long
that,
what
what
defines
a
lapse
and
requires
you
have
to
go
back
to
a
public
hearing
process
versus
a
conditional
use.
F
D
Okay,
I,
the
one
of
the
words
that
I
I
don't
see
in
here
when
is
the
standard
of
review?
Is
compatibility
and
I,
don't
know
if
compatibility
is
the
right
word,
but
I'll
use,
for
example,
and
these
may
be
already
be
permitted
uses,
so
it
may
not
apply.
F
G
That's
inherent
right,
so
so
yeah,
that's
essentially
when
you
develop
your
actual
code
in
your
different
zoning
districts,
it'll
have
your
permitted
uses
which
are
permitted
by
a
right.
You
know,
and
then
your
conditional
uses
and
there'll
be
a
list
of
those
as
well.
Now
your
conditional
uses
are
deemed
by
inclusion
in
that
zoning
District
to
be
compatible
right.
G
F
Also
make
sure
that
you
look
at
section
20901,
that's
standards
for
review;
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
why
this
was
written.
The
way
the
original
format
is,
but
when
you
go
into
section
20901,
that's
the
standards
for
review,
and
so
there
you
talk
about
appropriate
and
compatible
with
existing
and
planned
uses
in
the
area.
So
that
is
a
review
criteria
that
we
have
to
observe
gotcha.
H
B
B
But
you
know
it's
just
kind
of
would
think
at
some
point.
They
would
realize
okay
they're
not
all
going
to
be
busy
but
and
then
the
marketplace
itself
would
would
take
it's
just
like
you
could
have
a
district
that
that
allows
restaurants
and
have
you
know,
20
restaurants,
all
in
the
same
district,
you
can't
say
well
exactly
19
is
enough
right
if
they
have
a
right
to
it.
So.
F
I
interject
one
thing
I
just
remember,
because
we
go
and
I
discussed
this.
You
recommended
a
tweak
to
yes,
so,
under
on
the
very
last
page
of
this
under
pair
subparagraph
h,
it's
written
as
the
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare
will
be
preserved
and
any
reasonable
conditions
necessary
for
such
preservation
have
been
made.
I
think
you
had
recommended
that
we
tweak
that
word
into
say.
The
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare
shall
be
observed
with
any
reasonable
conditions
necessary
period.
B
So
I'm
I
amend
my
emotion
to
incorporate
that
language
and.
D
A
A
C
G
Ordinance
number
2022-26,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon
Springs
Florida,
amending
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
code
of
ordinances,
appendix
a
comprehensive
zoning
and
Land
Development
code.
Article
4,
section
56.00
temporary
uses
and
section
56.05
mobile
food,
dispensing
Vehicles
temporary,
providing
for
severability
providing
for
inclusion
in
the
code
of
ordinances
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida
and
providing
for
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance.
C
F
Right,
so
this
is
ordinance
2022-26.
So
this
is
another
amendment
to
our
mobile
food,
dispensing
vehicle
ordinance,
the
the
basic
Direction
and
request
that
has
come
up
most
often
is.
Is
you
know
if
I'm
in
a
residential
subdivision
and
I
live
in,
you
know
and
I
want
to
have
a
birthday
party
I
have
no
mechanism
to
request
to
have
a
food
truck.
You
know
one
day
to
have
a
party
or
something
like
this,
so
what
this
set
of
amendments
does
is
it
creates
for
both
businesses
and
and
residential.
F
If
it's
a
business
up
to
four
times
a
year,
no
more
than
two
days
you
have
to
apply
for
a
temporary
use
permit,
which
is
a
that's
handled
through
our
technical,
Review,
Committee
and,
and
so
the
other
change
that
we've
put
in
place
is
that
when
we
set
out
the
Mobile
Food,
the
the
temporary
mobile
food
ordinance,
we
we
said
we
set
up
some
operating
parameters.
That
said
in
these
zoning
districts,
as
long
as
you
can
port
with
this,
you
can
go
set
up
like
in
the
Lowe's
parking
lot.
F
Yes,
you
know
you
can
set
up
there
and
as
long
as
you're
operating
under
these
Provisions,
that's
where
you
can
operate.
So
we,
if
we
recall,
we
carved
out
an
area
some
areas
of
the
city
where
you
can
operate
freely,
just
follow
the
rules,
and
then
we
had
the
other
areas
where
you
could
do
the
you
know.
F
As
accessory
to
an
existing
Food
Service
establishment,
so
that
what
we're
trying
so
under
the
mobile,
we
are
allowing
recommending
that
if
it's
a
parcel
of
land
in
excess
of
one
acre,
you
can
have
an
additional
food
truck
for
eight
per
acre
so
like.
If
you
get
like
Lowe's
is
a
good
example.
It's
a
huge
parking
lot.
F
You
know
you
could
you
know
you
could
have
two
there,
instead
of
one,
so
we're
trying
to
provide
some
flexibility
for
big
projects
trip
in
the
industrial
district,
whatever
to
have
more
than
one
based
on
the
number
of
Acres,
so
that
provision
is
in
there
under
paragraph
F
sub
paragraph
one
and
then
the
rest
section
K.
F
F
No,
no,
so
that's
we're
making
a
distinction,
and
if
you
go
up
the
special
event,
it's
it's
not.
It's
meant
to
be
an
event
on
private
property.
A
special
event
is,
as
defined
in
chapter
12.5,
Article
2
of
the
code
of
ordinances
and
that's
there
are
these
big
special
events
that
have
to
go
get
approved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
We.
H
I
F
If
there's
a
if
it's
a
special
event
like
first
Friday
or
something,
but
if,
if
I'm
in,
if
I'm,
just
out
in
my
residential
subdivision
and
I,
want
to
have
a
birthday
party,
I
have
no
mechanism
right
now
to
say:
I
want
to
have
a
food
truck,
it's
just
not
allowed.
So
what
this
section
case
sets
up
is
I
can
do
a
temporary
I
can
ask
for
a
temporary
use.
Permit
not
a
special
event.
F
I
can
ask
for
a
temporary
use
permit
to
have
that
food
truck
on
my
property,
and
it
just
goes
to
our
temporary
use
process.
I.
D
D
F
That's
the
section
56
56,
oh
that's,
5606.,
I,
didn't
even
it.
We
weren't
changing
that.
So
I
didn't
include
it
at
all.
In
the.
D
F
B
Curiosity
question
for
the
City
attorney:
if,
if
a
private
residence
is
allowed,
a
food
truck,
does
that
supersede
HOA
regulations
or.
G
F
F
I
F
B
F
H
C
If
there's
no
further
questions
of
staff
and
no
public
comments,
I'll
entertain
a
motion
in
a
second.
J
I
would
make
that
motion
to
adopt
the
ordinance
2022-26
with
the
aforementioned
amendments
for
the
printing
code
and
the
the
site
and
project
verbiage.
B
C
B
C
C
All
right
that
brings
us
to
application
22-116
its
amendments
to
the
Tarpon
Springs
transect,
based
infill
code
for
the
Sponge
Docks
and
community
redevelopment
area
and
the
smart
code.
If
our
attorney
will
read
the
ordinance
for
us
and
staff
will
have
comments.
G
I
lost
the
title:
okay,
ordinance,
2022-27;
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs
Florida,
amending
appendix
B
of
the
city
of
Tarpon,
Springs,
code
of
ordinances,
a
transect-based
infill
code
for
the
Sponge
Docks
and
community
redevelopment
area
by
amending
tables,
5bi
or
I'm.
Sorry,
5B
1,
through
5,
B12,
specific
transect,
Zone,
height
standards
and
section
4.5.2
accessory
unit
maximum
area
providing
for
severability
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
F
The
the
major
part
of
this
ordinance
is
cleaning
up
the
confusion
between
Hotel
Heights
as
conditional
uses
or
or
special
hotel
Heights,
and
whether
or
not
they
require
conditional
use
approval.
We
simply
had.
We
essentially
had
some
circular
references
between
the
special
area
plan,
so
you
have
the
nine
character
districts.
We
have
the
Sponge
Docks
in
the
downtown
and
within
those
character,
districts
that
and
all
that's
adopted
as
part
of
our
comp
plan.
F
There
were
there
were
specific
Hotel
Heights
cited
and
then
it
said
refer
to
the
land,
to
the
smart
code,
essentially
for
what
for
what
those
specifics
are
for
how
there's
a
regulated
and
then
in
the
smart
code,
it
had
a
circular
reference
that
said
for
special
Health
Hotel
Heights
refer
back
to
the
special
area
plan.
So
essentially,
what
we
have
done
is
anywhere
that
a
height
in
the
special
area
plan
we're
not
changing
anything.
F
The
special
area
plan
anywhere
that
a
height
was
specified
for
hotels
as
like,
if,
for
instance,
in
the
Sponge
Docks
hotels
are
permitted
four
to
six
stories
and
that
it
doesn't
say
by
conditional
use
or
whatever
that
should
have
been
taken
care
of
in
the
smart
code,
and
it
wasn't
so
essentially
anywhere
where
the
special
area
plan
says.
A
special,
a
specific
Hotel
height
is
allowed
we're
built
into
every
transect
code
in
the
spell
in
the
smart
code
that
it
has
to
be
by
conditional
use
to
get
any
special
height
allowance
for
a
hotel.
F
So
we
just
if
you
want
a
hotel,
that's
above
it,
you
know
it's
called
out
in
the
character
District.
It
says.
Sponge
Docks
is
a
good
example.
The
regular
height
limit
and
Sponge
Docks
three
stories:
the
smart
code,
this
character,
District,
says
hotels,
can
have
a
high
the
four
to
six
stories,
and
that
refers
back
to
the
smart
code
for,
however,
that's
regulated
and
then
there's
nothing
in
the
smart
code
that
regulates
it.
F
So
we
simply
are
saying
that
to
try
to
clean
this
up
and
and
make
this
at
least
cleaner
anywhere
that
there's
a
special
hotel
height
called
out
in
a
special
area
plan
that
it
has
to
be
approved
by
conditional
use.
It's
not
it's
going
to
not
kind
of
out
there
by
right.
So
that's
what
all
those
tables
updates
are
for
the
other,
because
we
just
saw
this
as
a
something
that
needed
to
be
corrected
and
it
was
a
good
opportunity
between
the
Land
Development
code
and
the
smart
code
accessory
dwelling
units.
F
F
The
Sponge
Docks
Hotel
project,
we
we
that's
when
we
really
started
realizing,
as
we
dug
into
the
code,
the
first
time
for
a
hotel
and
we're
we're
reading
the
character
District
says
in
the
Sponge
Docks,
a
hotel
can
be
four
to
six
stories,
even
though
the
regular
height
limit
is
three
stories,
and
then
there
was
nothing
in
the
smart
code.
That
said,
what's
the
governing
factor
for
where
you
can
have
four
to
six
stories,
that
is
it
by
right?
Is
it
by
conditional
use?
We
have
you
know
this.
F
J
F
B
I
A
A
C
C
G
F
H
G
Going
to
recommend
so
these
two,
both
of
these
ordinances,
can
be
combined
into
one
and
actually
part
of
what
I
was
doing.
While
we
were
sitting
here
as
I
was
reviewing
section
163.3184,
and
it
does
say
that
you
can
consider
multiple
amendments
at
the
same
time.
So
it
can
all
be
part
of
the
same
ordinance
and
that
actually
will
make
it
easier.
When
you
get
to
the
transmittal
process,.
F
I
I,
don't
I
mean
it's
to
combine
them
as
one
that
would
have
to
re-advertise
and
do
a
new
ordinance
title,
and
when
did
you
advertise
them,
for
they
were
advertised
they're
actually
were
advertised
and
deferred
to
a
date
certain
because
the
we
would
ran
into
a
hitch
with
the
Kim.
Do
you
know
the
actual
dates
we
they
were
advertised
and
the
PO
the
paper
wasn't
published.
That's
they
were
supposed
to
have
gone
in
October
to.
G
Yeah,
here's
what
I'm
actually
seeing
when
I
I
look
at
this.
Did
you
provide
for
the
180
days
for
the
for
the
plan,
Amendment
transmittal.
F
G
Yeah,
but
you
still
have
to
provide
for
that
so
there'll
be
a
period.
F
Of
time
there
will
be,
we
could
combine
them.
At
second
rate,
I
mean
we
would
do
the
ordinance
and
we
would
take
them
to
First
reading.
We
would
transmit
them
to
the
state
and
then
it's
second
reading.
Then,
what's
the
state
waits
for
any
agency,
or
you
know
comment,
and
if
there
is
none,
then
they
simply,
you
know
yeah
they
just
they.
Then,
when
we
do
second
reading,
we
just
transmit
their
final
ordinance
to
them.
F
About
the
two
or
the
two
comp
plan-
ordinances,
22,
33
and
32,.
F
F
G
Well,
I
I
read
the
second
one.
It
would
appear
the.
B
B
F
Okay,
so
in
the
two
commercial
land
use
category
future
land
use
categories,
commercial,
limited
and
Commercial
General
the
land,
the
the
comp
plan
caught
the
categories,
allow
for
certain
things,
as
secondary
uses,
residential
being
one
of
them
and
I
think
everyone
knows
where
all
this
emerged
from
so
I
won't
belabor
that
essentially
what
these
two
changes
do
is,
and
this
this
now
follows
suit
with
how
the
county-wide
plan
reads
for
the
future:
land
use
categories
so,
rather
than
having
primary
and
secondary
uses,
you
have
uses,
subject
to
acreage
thresholds
and
uses
not
subject
to
Icarus
thresholds.
F
How
the
county-wide
plan
regulates
those
now
in
their
latest
iteration
from
like
2015.,
so
that's
essentially
what
that
does,
and
hopefully
it
makes
sense
we're.
We
will
be
we'll
carry
that
acreage
threshold
provision
through
to
the
other
land
use
map
categories,
when
we
do
the
full
the
full
update
to
the
comp
plan.
That's
ongoing
now
so,
but
we
wanted
to
do
this
for
these
and
get
this
one
taken
care
of.
D
We're
talking
about
20,
22-33,
correct,
okay,
question,
I
have
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
appropriate
place
to
put
it,
but
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
at
one
of
our
other
meetings
at
one
time
was
transferring
density.
F
F
F
I
think
needs
a
a
pretty
thorough
level
of
review
before
you
would
want
to
do
that,
because
there
are
some
advantages
to
it,
like
the
ability
to
transfer
density
out
of
the
coastal,
High
Hazard
area
and
and
land
it
somewhere
else,
as
an
incentive
to
not
develop
into
Coastal
Hazard
area.
So
I
think
there's
some
ramifications
to
that.
It
wouldn't
be
in
this.
It
would
be.
We
have
a
section
in
the
Land
Development
code
that
that
speaks
to
you
know
and
we
actually
have
fairly
limited
ability
to
transfer
density.
It's
usually
for
preservation
purposes.
F
H
F
I'll
be
honest
with
you:
I
picked
that
up,
because
it
was
in
the
county-wide
plan
rules
for
a
similar
category,
so
I
went
ahead
and
added
it
because
they
were
going
to
flag
it
when
I
sent
it
to,
because
I
will
have
to
send
this
to
the
for
a
consistency,
review
to
Pinellas
County
or
to
the
County
Planning
Authority.
So
I
knew
they
were
going
to
flag
it.
So
I
just
went
ahead
and
put
it
in
for
consistency
with
their
plan.
F
Me
a
transportation
utility
use
so
like
Duke
Energy,
the
big
substations
things
like
that.
The
transportation
use
I
can't
really
think
I
mean.
C
There's
no
further
questions
for
staff.
Do
we
have
any
public
comment?
Seeing
none
need
a
motion
in
a
second
please
and
then
we
can
discuss.
G
D
Motion
to
think
motion
to
approve
ordinance,
20
22-33
as
I
got
it
second.
C
C
C
F
Thank
you,
so
this
ordinance
2022-32.
These
are
amendments
to
the
coastal
element,
Coastal
management
element-
and
this
is
specific
to
our
Coastal
High
Hazard
area
Provisions.
So
the
first
policy
3.3.1
as
it
reads
today.
It
really
speaks
specifically
to
amending
the
land
use
map.
What
this
does
is.
It
adds
the
same
consideration
about
increasing
density
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
The
same
consideration
has
to
be
applied
to
zoning
map
amendments,
including
plan
developments
or
conditional
use
proposals
that
would
increased
density
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
F
So
that
is
an
expansion
of
how
we
would
apply
this
section
when
considering
an
amendment
of
any
type
that
would
potentially
increase
density
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
Under
that
same
section,
under
sub
paragraph
F,
we
put
a
reference
in
where
it
says
the
proposed
amendment
is
included
in
a
community
development
plan
output,
C
policy
3.3.2
below,
because
that
this
is
a
policy
that
does
specifically
talk
about
our
community
redevelopment
community
redevelopment
area
and
I've
cleaned
that
up
a
little
bit.
F
That's
only
for
residential
above
ground
floor
that
was
in
there
before,
but
I
moved
a
little
bit
for
clarity,
and
then
we
added
under
that
section
3.3.2
a
paragraph
four
as
one
of
the
criteria
that
could
be
considered
that
entire
project,
residential
and
non-residential
components
complies
with
the
coastal
Hazard
area
design
standards
of
the
Land
Development
code,
which
you
just
reviewed
earlier.
F
3.1.2
and
this
this
will
come.
This
is
under
goal
three
about
protecting
human
life
and
limit
public
expenditures
and
areas
subject
to
destruction
by
natural
disasters
under
policy
3.1.2.
It
currently
reads
as
restrict
public
investment
such
as
roads,
Water
and
Sewer
infrastructure,
which
would
subsidize
new
private
development,
the
coastal
Hazard
area,
so
I've
added
a
clarifying
statement.
This
includes
acceptance
of
privately
constructed
anything
that
we
would
have
to
maintain
in
the
future.
So
that's
an
ad
there
and
then
all
the
way
over
to
page
44.
F
under
our
general
objective,
directing
population
concentrations
away
from
known
or
predicted,
Coastal
Hazard
areas,
we
have
policy,
3.4.1
restrict
the
infill
of
vacant
Parcels
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area
to
five
dwelling
units
per
acre
where
a
shelter
deficit
is
demonstrated
for
a
category
three
hurricane
in
lieu
of
this
limitation,
the
city
may
allow
development
up
to
current
maximum
allowed
existing
future
land
use
map
designations
of
the
parcel
subject
to
the
hurricane
shelter
impact
and
the
coastal
hazardary
design
standards
I'm
trying
to
strike
a
balance
with
this
one,
because
we
have
Parcels
out
there
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area.
F
Now
that
have
15
units
to
the
acre
on
them
and
whether
that's
an
absolute
right
or
whether
it's
not
that's
what
the
density
is
so
I'm
trying
to
provide
a
path
that
says
you've
got
to
do
some
things
in
order
to
to
tap
that
density,
and
if
you
don't
you're
going
to
be
limited
to
five
units
to
the
acre.
So
this
is
a
bit
of
a
fine
line
and
I'm
just
trying
to
straddle
here
with
this
about
not
completely
ripping
apart
property
rights
on
things
that
already
exist.
F
No,
we
have.
We
have
vacant
land.
That's
you
know
that
has
land
use
designations
on
it
at
10
units
to
the
acre
15
years
to
the
acre,
but
by
the
future
land
use
map
category.
That
also
is
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area,
so
so
that
policy
right
now
it
just
simply
reads:
restrict
public.
That's
the
wrong
one
hold
on
I
found
the
right
one.
F
So,
if
you're
willing
to
build
a
base,
flood
elevation
plus
three
in
the
next
higher
wind
load
category,
the
city
can
consider
that
in
allowing
you
to
build
above
five
units
per
acre,
if
you've
already
got
a
land
use,
designation
that
says,
I
have
10
or
15,
but
you're
going
to
do
something
extra.
That's
that's
the
way
this
was
intended
to
be
okay,.
D
F
D
That's
your
I've.
F
So,
okay,
so
now
I'll
go,
do
a
shelter,
a
study
and
everything,
and
until
you
get
to
probably
a
category
four
or
five,
you
know
you
know.
If
it's
a
small
development,
let's
say
it's
only.
You
know
a
couple
of
acres
of
land
and
you're.
Only
talking
10,
you
know.
Is
it
worth?
Even
it's
not
it's.
You
know
it's
immaterial
at
that
point.
F
F
You
know,
that's
there
yeah,
and
this
is
a
you
know,
and
this
is
the
one
that
makes
me
the
most.
You
know
unsure
I'll
be
on.
You
know,
just
as
the
way
it's
written
in
a
way.
It's
currently
written
I
have
issues
with
it
and
so
I'm
trying
to
provide
a
bright
line,
at
least
or
at
least
a
fence
that
you
can
walk
on
of.
F
D
F
A
D
A
Is
that
this
is
a
good
start
and
I'm
going
to
use
memory
here
and,
if
I'm
wrong?
That's
okay
is
that
I
think
I
recall
reading
a
letter
from
the
Pinellas
County
floodplain
manager
that
quoted
Florida
State
Statute.
That
said,
the
state
shall
discourage
development
within
the
coastal,
High
Hazard
area
and
I
would
like,
unfortunately,
to
remind
us
that
what
just
occurred
south
of
us
is
a
perfect
example
of
what
happens
when
those
rules
are
ignored
or
conditional
uses
are
granted
or
we'll
just
hope
for
the
best
right.
A
So
now
we
have
a
concrete
example
of
what
happens
when
we
don't
apply
a
less
queasy
approach
to
Coastal
High,
Hazard
development,
and
if
this
is
the
minimum
that
we
could
put
forward,
I
think
I
think
it's
good
I
probably
would
be
a
bit
stronger,
but
this
is
what
we
have
we're
saving
lives.
Three
feet
is
good.
A
Higher
wind
speed
is
good,
nothing
would
be
best,
but
of
course
we
can't
have
that,
but
and
I'll
go
back
to
trampling
on
personal
property
rights
and
close
your
ears
Council,
that
all
things
in
life
change
our
rights
to
Driver's
Licenses
and
to
do
other
things
are
granted
through
other
agencies
and
they're
not
set
in
stone,
forever
and
and
sometimes
to
live
in
a
community.
We
have
to
make
concessions
about
our
personal
rights
for
us
all
to
be
able
to
live
together.
A
B
We're
passing
tonight
makes
it
a
better.
B
J
I
think
it's
it's
very
proactive.
Basically,
what
you're
doing
is
prudently
applying
more
restrictive
standards
based
on
the
conditions
that
we've
seen
evidence
in
other
other
places,
so
you're
being
proactive,
you're,
saying
hey.
This
may
happen
here
and
you
may
want
to
do
X,
Y
and
Z.
It
benefits
them.
You
know
specifically,
so
why
you
wouldn't
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
unfair
about
it.
You're,
not
you're,
not
dissuading
property
rights.
You're,
basically
saying
hey,
you
know,
pay
attention
because
this
may
be
a
problem
down
the
road,
so
I
think.
A
F
F
That
that
whole
section,
that
was
all
added
in
2018.
that
didn't
exist
so
previously
the
policy,
the
only
policy
was
3.3.2
and
it
said
the
city
shall
prohibit
future
land
use
density
increases
within
the
coastal
High
Hazard
area,
and
then
we
had
within
the
community
redevelopment
area
or
this
boost.
We've
provided
some
specific
instances
where
you
could
so
when
they,
when,
when
the
when
they
adopted
that
ordinance
in
2018
that
put
in
this
policy
3.3.1,
they
didn't,
they
didn't
tie
it.
F
The
reverse,
the
only
other
way
to
fix
that
would
be
to
just
completely
undo
and
take
out
3.3.1
altogether,
which
this
language
I
will
tell.
You
is
verbatim
out
of
the
Pinellas
County
county-wide
plan.
This
is
their
balancing
criteria
for
I
know
you
hate
that
word,
that's
their
criteria,
for
so,
if
we
increase
density
in
the
coastal
Hazard
area
and
that
map
amendment
has
to
go
to
Pinellas
to
the
county-wide
planning
Authority,
these
are
the
same
criteria
that
they
use
to
increase
density
that
they
look
at.
D
G
I
actually
do
have
a
suggestion,
so
I
am
looking
at
objective
3.4
policy
3.4.1,
where
it
talks
about
the
Category
3
hurricane.
Again,
yes,
I
would
say
it
should
be
for
a
category
3
or
higher
hurricane
okay,
because
the
way
that
it's
it
reads,
the
plain
language
would
indicate
that
it's
only
for
category
three
and.
H
G
Want
to
make
sure
that
it's
for
category
three
category,
four
category,
five,
okay,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
presumption
there
that
it's
going
to
cover
that
right,
but
the
way
that
it's
worded
it
kind
of
sounds
like
it's
only
for
category
three
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
I,
went
back
to
the
title
of
this
ordinance.
H
H
G
H
G
F
G
I
I
have
some
drafts
that
I
can
provide
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
G
G
C
We
well
I'll
call
for
public
comment,
first,
assuming
none
now
Motion
in
second,
please.
B
I
make
a
motion:
we
approve
ordinance
20
22-32
with
the
Amendments,
as
stated
by
this
City
attorney.
J
B
In
and
in
addition,
the
what
and
that
includes
the
or
higher
on
category
three
hurricanes
or
higher
on
3.4.1.
C
Now
we
have
item
number
eight
staff
comments.
Do
we
have
any.
F
C
With
you
I
appreciate
it,
it
really
was
a
lot
of
good
work.
We
appreciate
what
you've
done.
It's
board
comment
time.
I
just
have
have
one
thing:
John
coulianos
is
leaving
us
after
this
meeting
to
go
on
to
bigger
and
better
things
and
I'd
just
like
to
wish
him
well
and
and
all
he
does
and
and
say,
we've
been
enjoyed.
Having
him
here,
I
appreciate.
H
B
Miss
Kardash:
it's
really
been
a
pleasure.
Oh.
H
B
What
we
did
here,
it
would
be
a
I'd
be
hard
to
overturn.
It
would
be
a
an
anguish.