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A
Welcome
to
the
November
21st
meeting
of
the
Tarpon
Springs
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
at
this
time,
I'd
like
Mr
vessey,
to
to
lead
us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
you'll
stand.
Please.
B
B
I
do,
in
addition,
I'll
just
say
a
few
words
invocation.
B
A
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
brief
statement
of
explaining
the
function
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
again
welcome
to
the
the
meeting
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board.
The
purpose
of
the
board
is
to
conduct
public
hearings
on
the
items
that
come
before
it.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
has
reviewed
the
evidence
in
the
agenda
packet
for
each
item
on
the
agenda
and
this
evening,
including
the
application
materials
in
the
staff
report.
The
board
will
consider
that
evidence
along
with
any
new
evidence
or
testimony
provided
at
the
public
hearing
tonight.
A
A
The
board
uses
these
procedures
to
judge
whether
the
application
meets
the
intent
of
the
city's
adopted,
comprehensive
plan
and
future
land
use
map
and
whether
the
application
conforms
to
the
city's
currently
adopted
Land
Development
code
and
Zoning
Atlas.
The
board
will
render
a
decision
on
each
item
in
the
form
of
a
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
who
will
take
the
final
action
on
the
item.
A
C
A
D
A
Okay,
we
we
do
have
less
than
a
full
board
present,
so
applicants
I
think
we're
only
missing
one,
but
applicants
might
choose
to
have
their
item
deferred
to
another
meeting
if
they
feel
this
could
be
detrimental
to
them.
If
anyone
wishes
to
do
that
approach
the
podium
and
ask
for
a
deferral-
and
we
will
announce
the
deferrals
to
a
date
certain
or
a
date
to
be
advertised
in
the
future,
seeing
none
I
would
ask
our
attorney
to
go
over
the
quasi-judicial
procedures
that
we
must
follow.
E
Everybody
at
their
place
should
have
resolution
2022-02,
which
is
your
adopted
and
currently
in
effect
rules
of
procedure,
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
you
should
have
a
PowerPoint
handout
that
says
quasi-judicial
proceedings:
the
rules
of
playing,
judge
and
jury.
Since
this
is
the
first
time
I've
sat
with
your
board
I
just
wanted.
E
Instead
of
just
doing
the
regular
announcement,
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
give
you
an
overview
now
I'm
going
to
tell
you
that
this
is
normally
an
hour-long
presentation,
but
due
to
the
size
of
your
agenda
and
everything
you
you
all
have
going
on
this
site,
I'm
going
to
condense
it
down
and
hopefully
get
it
done
in
about
10
to
15
minutes.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
basically
kind
of
Hit
the
high
points
and
just
make
sure
you
have
enough
information
so
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
as
we
move
forward
here
tonight.
E
So
one
of
the
first
things
everybody
usually
asks
is:
why
do
we
even
have
to
have
these?
And
why
are
quasi-judicial
and
procedure,
rules
important
and
that's
kind
of
twofold?
As
for
the
orderly
conduct
of
government
business
and
for
civility
among
members
and
among
the
public
and
people
who
may
have
differing
opinions,
so
that's
the
two
main
reasons
that
we
have
a
lot
of
these
procedures
and
things
in
place
now.
E
Moving
on
to
the
second
page,
here's
what
quasi-judicial
actually
means-
and
this
is
how
it's
defined
by
case
law-
is
that
it
has
an
identifiable
impact
on
a
limited
number
of
persons
or
property
interests
is
contingent
contingent
on
facts
arrived
at
from
and
distinct
from,
Alternatives
presented
at
the
local
government
hearing,
and
it
is
viewed
as
an
application
of
policy.
So
that's
the
most
important
for
you
to
remember
and
that's
because
you
actually
have
two
separate
roles.
You
have
your
quasi-judicial
role
and
then
you
also
have
a
legislative
function.
That's
been
delegated
to
you.
E
So
when
you're
having
public
hearings,
it's
important
to
differentiate
between
the
ones
that
are
actually
the
application
of
the
law
and
the
ones
that
you're
applying
the
law.
So
if
it's
quasi-judicial,
that
means
you
are
taking
the
established
criteria,
whatever
is
already
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
and
you
are
applying
that
criteria
to
the
application
that
is
before
you
and
we'll
get
into
that
in
just
another
minute.
E
But
that's
the
most
important
distinction
here
is
it's
the
application
of
previously
established
criteria
to
the
facts
and
evidence
that
are
going
to
be
presented
to
you
in
the
hearing.
Moving
on
to
the
next
page.
So
a
big
important
piece
of
this
is
being
able
to
follow
both
procedural
and
substantive
due
process
and
that's
both
in
how
the
codes
are
written
and
how
you
carry
out
those
codes
in
practice.
E
As,
you
move
through
the
court
system.
If
you
are
not
applying
the
correct
law,
then
it
doesn't
matter
what
you
do
here.
So
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
doing
that
and
we're
taking
the
criteria.
That's
already
in
the
code
and
using
that,
so
you
could
see
right
below
that
top
slide.
I
have
the
three
things
that
the
Circuit
Court
would
review.
If
they
were
reviewing
now
everything
that
you
do
goes
up
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
right.
E
However,
it
becomes
part
of
a
greater
hearing
record
that
becomes
important
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
review
and
then
also
on
appeal.
So
you
want
to
make
sure
that,
at
every
stage
of
the
proceeding
you're
following
what
needs
to
be
done
and
building
that
record
so
that
it's
clear
what
decisions
you're
making,
why
you're
making
those
decisions
and
what
you're
using
to
make
those
decisions.
E
Okay
moving
on
to
the
next
page,
so
in
terms
of
procedural
due
process,
and
what
that
requires.
That's
why
we
have
all
hearing
all
testimony
at
these
hearings
is
always
under
oath,
otherwise,
otherwise
it
undermines
the
basis
of
your
decision
and
it
actually
is
a
crime
under
state
law
to
provide
false
testimony,
evidence
or
or
writings
to
a
body
for
your
official
decision
that
are
false.
E
Although
you
do
not
have
to
strictly
follow
the
rules
of
evidence
in
these
proceedings,
your
findings
should
not
solely
be
based
on
hearsay.
If
all
you're
basing
it
on
is
hearsay,
then
that's
questionable,
and
that
certainly
could
be
subject
to
appeal
down
the
road
too,
also
because
you
are
taking
in
this
evidence
and
taking
in
this
testimony
within
the
confines
of
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
That
means
that
all
ex
parte
Communications
have
to
be
disclosed
at
the
hearing
right
now.
An
ex
parte
communication
is
is
information
or
Communications
that
you
receive
outside
of
the
hearing.
E
Now
we're
doing
this
process
of
board
education,
but
I
would
say
that
there's
a
majority
of
citizens
out
there
that
think
that
they
have
ready
access
to
you
and
that
they
can
come
talk
to
you
about
their
applications.
That
is
not
true.
So
if
an
applicant
ever
comes
up
to
talk
to
you,
other
board
members
well,
first
of
all
board
members
would
be
assigned,
but
other
folks
from
the
city
that
would
want
to
talk
to
you
about
something.
That's
going
to
come
before
you
in
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding.
E
You
cannot
change
the
law
without
following
the
proper
procedures
that
are
provided
in
the
state
statute
and
under
the
Constitution.
So
when
you
are
taking
that
criteria
and
that
information
and
you're
applying
it
to
the
facts
and
testimony
that
are
presented
to
you,
you
have
to
remember
that
you're
doing
it
as
it
exists
and
not
as
you
would
like
it
to
be.
If
you
want
it
to
be
a
different
way,
you
have
a
different
procedure
for
that.
E
That
is
your
legislative
function,
and
you
can
do
that
and
it
does
have
to
go
through
the
Board
of
Commissioners
in
order
to
make
that
law
effective.
That
is
not
something
that
you
have
plenary
authority
to
do
here,
as
as
you
sit
today
also
so
the
applicant
does
have
the
burden
of
proof,
so
that
burden
of
proof
means
the
applicant
has
to
prove
to
you
that
they
meet
that
criteria.
They
meet
those
standards,
and
all
of
that
is
contained
in
their
application
and
in
the
testimony
and
evidence
that
they
that
they
are
bringing
to
you.
E
So
I
talked
about
everything
in
quasi-judicial
hearings.
Everything
has
to
be
supported
by
confident,
substantial
evidence
and
so
how
the
law
defines
that
is,
findings,
a
fact,
expert
testimony
and
cinnamon
citizen
testimony,
and
basically,
when
you're,
making
your
decisions
and
making
your
orders
it.
You
are
making
findings
you're,
making
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
that
are
then
being
transmitted
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
right
for
the
ultimate
decision.
Now,
on
that
bottom
thing,
I
have
the
differentiate
differentiation
between
unacceptable
and
acceptable
citizen
testimony
a
lot
of
times.
E
Citizens
will
want
to
come
up
and
give
their
opinion
on
something,
and
that
goes
to
the
the
weight
and
credibility
of
the
information
that
they're
giving
you.
You
know
anybody
for
their
four
minutes.
You
know
as
long
as
they're,
not
being
disruptive
or
disrespectful
can
pretty
much
come
up
and
say
anything
right,
but
you
all
have
to
have
that
filter
of.
Are
they
just
giving
me
an
opinion
or
are
they
giving
me
observable
facts
and
evidence
that
I
can
apply
to
what's
going
on
here?
E
So
your
expert
testimony
are
going
to
be
people
who
have
specialized
knowledge,
training
or
experience.
That's
your
staff,
who
you
know
for
the
most
part,
does
this
day
in
and
day
out
right.
That's
Engineers,
Architects
people
who
have
that
level
of
specialized
skill
and
knowledge
to
give
what
would
be
under
the
law,
a
weighted
opinion
that
would
be
considered
expert
testimony.
E
Moving
on
to
page
six
after
you
have
that
First
Circuit
Court
review
with
those
three
items
that
were
the
basis
of
appeal.
Then,
if
it
survives
that,
then
it
goes
to
the
district
courts
of
appeal
and
there's
two
things
that
they
look
at
at
the
district,
a
court
court
level
and
the
first
one
is
procedural
due
process.
E
So
again,
you're
still
there
you're
looking
at
that
and
then
whether
or
not
you
departed
from
the
essential
requirements
of
law,
so
you
see
that
same
emphasis
being
put
on
whether
or
not
you're
meeting
these
constitutional
standards
and
whether
or
not
you're,
applying
and
moving
through
the
correct
law.
So
I
also
have
down
there
on
the
bottom
of
page,
seven.
Basically,
the
the
hearing
procedure
you
open
the
public
hearing
staff
will
make
their
presentation.
The
applicant
will
make
their
presentation.
You
have
the
opportunity
for
proponents
and
opponents
to
come
up
and
speak
on
the
application.
E
Then
you
have
the
opportunity
for
both
City
staff
and
for
the
applicant
to
provide
any
rebuttal
after
the
close
of
the
after
you
hear
from
the
proponents
and
opponents,
then
that's
when
you
close,
the
public
hearing
is
when
you're
done,
taking
your
evidence.
E
So
after
that,
that's
when
you
all
as
a
board,
have
those
discussions
of
this
is
what
I
think,
and
this
is
how
I
think
this
should
be,
and
you
make
your
motion
and
decide
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
recommend
approval
or
denial
of
the
application
before
you
and
then
I
just
have
quickly
here
on
your
legislative
procedures.
You'll
see
you
still
have
the
opportunity
for
them
to
the
public
to
to
speak
on
behalf
of
or
against
whatever
particular
piece
of
legislation.
E
So
that's
just
a
very
high
level
view
up
there
and
then
my
name
and
contact
information
is
in
the
back
on
the
very
last
slide.
So
for
tonight
we,
since
we
do
have
a
healthy
agenda.
I
will
let
everybody
know
that
pursuant
to
your
rules
or
procedures,
sit
citizens.
So
your
proponents
and
opponents
each
have
four
minutes
for
your
presentations.
I
am
requesting
that
the
chair
established
20-minute
time
limits
for
staff,
for
the
city's
presentation
and
for
applicant
presentation.
E
D
D
E
A
F
G
The
applicants
are
here
today
seeking
site
plan
approval
for
the
Susana
one
project.
This
is
a
six
unit,
multi-family
development.
They
are
proposing
a
one-story
building
that
is
oriented
towards
both
the
Boyer
and
gross
Street
frontages.
The
code
requires
a
minimum
of
10
parking
spaces
for
the
project
and
the
applicants
are
providing
10
on-site
parking
spaces.
They
have
provided
a
landscaping
plan
that
is
compliant
with
all
of
the
Land
Development
code
requirements,
including
screening
of
the
on-site
parking
lot.
G
This
is
a
look
at
the
proposed
site
plan
and
just
for
emphasis.
I've
outlined
the
building
footprint
in
blue
here
again,
it's
oriented
towards
West,
Gross,
Avenue
and
Boyer
Street,
and
the
parking
is
interior
to
the
site
and
access
from
an
alley
along
the
north
property
line.
The
site
plan
does
indicate
that
the
building
will
not
obstruct
any
of
the
required
site.
Visibility
triangles,
which
are
shown
at
the
intersections,
as
well
as
along
their
driveway
they're,
also
proposing
a
10
spot
parking
lot
behind
the
building,
and
then
on-site
stormwater
pond.
G
As
some
of
you
may
recall,
the
applicant
was
before
you
back
in
May
of
this
year.
They
were
asking
for
conditional
use
approval
of
an
alternative
dimensional
plan.
What
they
were
seeking
was
reduced,
setbacks
for
their
front
side
and
rear
yards,
and
ultimately
the
Board
of
Commissioners
did
approve
that
conditional
use
approval.
So
now,
they're
here
today,
with
the
final
site
plan,
the
conditional
use
approved
reduced
setbacks
to
be
a
minimum
front
yard
of
four
feet:
a
minimum
rear
yard
of
3.33
feet
and
a
minimum
side
yard
of
3.58
feet.
G
Those
reduced
yards
are
really
aimed
at
creating
a
more
urban
project
that
could
be
closer
to
the
street.
The
parking
interior
and
access
from
the
alley
and
the
reduced
setbacks
allowed
them
to
do
that
through
the
refinement
of
the
site
plan.
They
have
actually
have
slightly
larger
setbacks
that
are
proposed
before
you.
Most
significantly
is
the
side
yard,
which
is
the
East
property
line
along
here.
G
These
are
the
building
elevations
provided
by
the
applicant.
These
again
are
consistent
with
the
conceptual
plan
that
you
receive
during
the
conditional
use
approval,
with
the
exception
of
the
roofline.
The
conditional
use,
rendering
did
show
a
pitched
roof,
and
here
they've
modified
that
to
be
a
flat
roof,
but
it
still
has
the
same
building
articulation,
meaning
there's
setback,
walls
and
recessed
areas
of
the
building.
So
it's
not
a
flat
wall.
Each
unit
still
has
direct
access
from
their
front
door
to
the
public
sidewalks,
and
there
are
porches
for
each
of
the
units.
G
With
the
conditional
use
approval,
the
board
did
include
two
conditions
that
were
to
be
addressed
at
the
site
plan
during
the
site
plan
process.
The
first
was
buffering
of
the
parking
lot
from
the
adjacent
property
shall
be
addressed
during
the
site
plan
process,
and
this
is
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
in
the
blue
outline.
G
The
second
condition
was
that
the
applicant
would
work
with
staff
and
waste
management
for
a
workable
solution
for
collection
and
disposal
of
solid
waste.
The
applicants
are
proposing
to
use
individual
toters
instead
of
a
dumpster
on
site,
and
each
resident
would
be
required
to
take
their
toter
out
to
the
street
each
week
for
pickup.
G
With
that
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
the
site
plan
under
resolution
2022-44,
we
do
have
four
standard
conditions
for
the
approval.
The
first
is
that
the
site
construction
plans
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
Second,
details
for
all
site
lighting,
including
product
sheets,
showing
shielded
fixtures,
will
be
provided
with
their
building
permit
application.
G
The
third
is,
the
belper
will
be
required
to
comply
with
the
public
art
program
if
the
project
exceeds
one
million
dollars
and
the
fourth
is,
the
site
plan
will
expire
one
year
from
the
effective
date
unless
they've
made
an
application
for
the
building
permit,
and
then
just
for
one
point
of
clarification,
you
may
have
noticed
in
your
agenda
materials
that
there
was
another
slide
in
the
presentation:
referencing
The
t4c,
transect
Zone.
We
noticed
that
that
was
included
in
error
and
not
relevant
to
this
project.
G
So
I
admitted
it
from
this
presentation,
but
just
for
a
point
of
record
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
G
Yeah
it
does
meet
what
we
require,
typically
for
a
screening
for
properties
that
are
multi-family
next
to
a
residential
property,
so
it
does
comply
with
that
and
being
that
the
stormwater
Pond
is
in
that
location
as
well.
It
just
provides
additional
distance
between
the
parking
lot
and
that
adjacent
property.
So
yes,
okay,.
G
H
F
F
I
B
I
have
a
question
yes
in
regards
to
the
toters,
which
are
dumps
in
Lua
dumpsters
I
just
want
to
unpack
that
just
a
little
bit.
So
is
the
concept
there
that,
instead
of
having
a
dumpster
space,
that
requires
the
turnaround
for
the
truck
and
all
the
things
that
come
with
that
that
this
is
maybe
a
better
alternative
to
that
requirement.
Would
that
be
fair?
Yes,.
G
Yeah,
the
main
reason
was
how
to
get
if
they
had
a
dumpster
on
site.
How
would
they
be
able
to
maneuver
a
trash
truck
Through,
the
Alley
into
the
parking
space,
and
this
is
a
practice
that
we've
used
on
some
other
projects
throughout
the
community
and,
like
I,
said
Public
Works
and
waste
management
are
comfortable
with
it,
but
the
totor.
A
Seeing
none
with
the
applicant
like
to
make
a
presentation.
A
All
right
that
brings
us
to
public
comments.
Have
anyone
here,
speaking
in
in
favor
of
this
proposal,.
A
All
right,
seeing
no
public
comments,
I'll
close
the
public
comments
section
of
the
meeting
I,
don't
imagine
staff
has
any
rebuttal
comments,
do
not,
and
the
applicant
I
imagine
not
either.
So
the
the
item
will
come
back
to
us
for
consideration
of
the
board.
We
need
a
motion
and
a
second
before
discussing
I.
E
A
G
Okay,
again,
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
resolution
2022-44
subject
to
four
conditions.
One
site
construction
plan
shall
be
consistent
with
the
approved
site
plan.
All
requisite
fees
attended
to
the
project
shall
be
paid
in
accordance
with
the
Land
Development
code.
Two
details
for
all
site
lighting,
including
product
sheets,
showing
shielded
fixtures,
shall
be
provided
with
the
building
permit
application,
showing
compliance
with
the
Land
Development
code.
Section
127.06
three
developer
must
comply
with
the
public
art
program,
requirements
of
Land
Development
code,
section
296.
A
F
Motion
was
intended
to
be
with
the
recommendations
of
staff
and
the
and
the
condition
and
their
conditions
and.
F
A
F
F
A
K
E
E
It
noted
for
the
record
that
this
had
been
before
you
before
at
your
previous
meeting
right
and
that
I
also
wanted
to
inquire
of
all
the
board
members,
whether
or
not
you
can
hear
tonight's
presentation
and
dually
consider
all
the
testimony
and
evidence
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
you
both
by
staff
and
by
the
applicant,
even
though
some
of
it
you
may
have
already
heard
so,
is
there
anybody
who
cannot
move
forward
on
this?
Based
on
that?
E
Okay,
the
record
will
reflect
that
there
are.
Nobody
is
indicating
that
they
will
have
a
problem,
making
a
fair
decision
on
tonight's
application
and
then
because
it
is
a
re-hearing.
I
would
like
to
see
a
motion
of
the
board
to
go
ahead
and
hear
this
again.
B
J
J
A
C
K
Thank
you,
Pat
McNeese
principal
planner.
This
is
the
cohatch
Tarpon
Springs
application.
You
saw
this
at
your
regular
meeting.
Most
of
you
did
on
October
17th,
and-
and
this
is
back
before
you
now
at
that
meeting-
you
did
not
have
the
benefit.
The
art,
the
applicants
architect
was
here,
but
you
didn't
have
the
applicant
and
the
benefit
of
a
full
presentation
from
them
and
staff
has
also
done
additional
research
to
provide
you,
but
with
more
information
on
parking
downtown
and
some
of
the
other
issues
you
mentioned.
K
So
I'll
just
quickly
go
over
the
basics
of
the
project.
This
is
downtown
Tarpon
Springs
on
Tarpon
Avenue.
It's
a
an
existing
building
that
we'll
see
in
here
that
the
proposal
is
to
put
an
addition
on
that
building
into
provide
a
restaurant,
outdoor
bar
and
an
office
and
co-working
space.
K
This
is
the
location
of
the
project
between
all
19
and
North
Safford
and
again,
this
is
in
the
downtown
character.
District.
The
red
dashed
outline
is
the
t5b
transect
that
it's
in,
which
covers
basically
that
strip
of
Tarpon
Avenue
from
ring
Avenue
overpass,
Alt,
19.
K
Oops-
and
this
is
a
closer
view
of
the
transect
showing
what's
covered
and
where
the
site
is
again,
this
is
an
Adaptive
free
use
of
an
existing,
your
your
oldest
commercial
building
in
Tarpon,
and
this.
This
is
a
project
that
will
preserve
and
update
and
adapt
that
that
project
to
building
to
the
new
use.
K
This
is
the
existing
survey,
the
building
here
right
up
on
Tarpon
Avenue
at
a
zero
outline
and
then
the
back,
which
is
mostly
a
paved
or
concrete,
and
then
the
rear
of
the
property
borders
on
the
Alley
behind
it.
K
And
then
this
is
a
just
overlay.
The
site
plan
again
two-story
brick
building
here,
two-story
addition
which
doubles
the
size
of
that
built
property
and
then
the
outdoor
bar
on
the
lower
floor
and
open
area
in
the
back
that
exposes
basically
exposes
the
project
out
to
the
alley.
K
K
There
is
one
difference
in
this
elevation
from
what
the
Heritage
board
approved.
That
would
be
this
dumpster
sorry
trash
enclosure
here
should
look
like
this
be
behind
the
stairway.
The
applicant
has
already
submitted
building
permit
application
and
is
already
addressing
that
item,
but
we
do
have
it
as
a
recommended
condition
of
approval.
K
These
are
just
renderings
of
that
rear
elevation.
Again,
the
look
of
the
materials
everything's
been
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
Heritage
Board.
This
is
the
front.
The
applicant
is
obviously
maintaining
the
look
and
everything
on
the
historic
building,
in
fact,
they're
restoring
some
semblance
of
the
transom
Windows,
which
have
been
gone.
Putting
a
commercial
awning,
so
they're
they're,
going
to
re-expose
that
that
strip
that
concrete
core
strip
along
there,
so
it
should
improve
the
look
of
the
building.
These
are
additional
renderings
on
that.
K
K
Just
to
get
into
some
of
the
questions
we
had
for
Access
and
parking.
The
alley
is:
is
there
but
it's
very
limited.
It's
only
seven
and
a
half
feet
wide
in
portions
at
the
two
ends:
it's
used
locally
for
business
owner
traffic
to
access
behind
their
stores,
but
it's
not
regularly
traversed
by
Vehicles.
It's
not
big
enough
for
delivery
trucks,
garbage
trucks
that
sort
of
thing
the
city
is
working
on.
Activating
the
Sally
as
a
pedestrian
alley,
that's
already
I,
believe
being
lit
up,
so
we
have
some
additional
work.
K
K
The
exemption-
and
this
is
the
exact
wording
here-
is
for
any
project
in
that
transect.
As
long
as
there's
available
parking
within
a
five-minute
walking
distance
downtown.
This
is
the
only
transect
that's
exempt
from
parking
right
now
in
your
smart
code.
K
Some
of
the
reasons
for
this,
basically,
as
as
you
know,
most
of
I
mean
that
development
that
exists
there
pretty
much
was
the
pattern
prior
to
the
automobile,
so
the
sites
are
pretty
full
with
building
structures
and
there
just
isn't
sufficient
room
for
applicants
to
provide
on-site
parking
parking
downtown.
You
know,
as
far
as
surface
parking
lots
the
cities
kind
of
stayed
away
from
that.
There's
not
much
room
down
there,
but
it
does
The
Desire,
with
smart
code
was
for
to
preserve
the
walkability
and
surface
parking.
K
Lots
tend
to
disrupt
that
kind
of
feel
for
downtowns.
Also.
We
want
to
encourage
the
Adaptive
reuse
of
these
buildings,
and
that
was
part
of
the
thinking
behind
it.
K
So,
in
the
meantime,
with
that
exemption,
the
city
separately
continues
to
work
on
additional
parking
again,
here's
the
transect
again,
that's
the
only
one
the
exemption
applies
to
this
is
a
quarter
mile
walk
shed.
So
it's
about
a
five
minute,
walk
shed
around
the
site
and
we'll
talk
about
these
different
parking
areas.
This
is
a
little
bit
zoomed
in
a
little
closer,
so
the
yellow
are
City
owned
and
leased
Lots
the
total
right
now
290
spaces,
the
orange
we
have
verbal
agreements
for
after
hours
parking.
Those
are
the
banks.
K
We
also
have
on-street
parking.
You
all
would
be
familiar
with
some
of
the
recent
upgrades
on
Court
Street
behind
a
cultural
center
in
those
areas
that
amounts
to
about
230
spaces,
and
this
is
in
less
than
the
five
minute
walking
distance
in
this
Camp.
So
we
did
some
Ransom
numbers
found
that
we
have
about
194
000
square
feet
of
existing
floor
area
in
that
transect
that's
gross
floor
area,
so
the
so.
If
parking
were
required,
we've
got
the
maximum
number
here.
K
That
would
be
required
at
three
per
thousand
square
feet
that
is
required
elsewhere.
In
your
code,
with
a
shared
parking
factor
which
lets
you
combine,
restaurant
office
or
retail
office
different
uses
like
that,
it
drops
to
486.
right
now.
We
have
590
spaces.
We
know
are
available
in
less
than
that.
Five
minute
walk
or
if
you
don't
count
the
verbal
agreement,
spaces
511.
K
spaces
are
available,
so
we
do
have
a
basically
a
surplus
of
parking
that
is
available
downtown
for
this
transect,
and
this
just
talks
a
little
bit
about
how
this
was
calculated.
The
applicant
is
proposing
6750
new
square
feet
of
floor
area,
so
we
feel
like
they
should
be.
Okay,
but
again
the
city
continues
to
work
on
this.
So
it's
really
I
mean
everything
in
that
strip.
Between
Alt,
19
and
Safford
is
developed
with
the
exception.
K
I
would
say
if
the
city
owned
a
CRA
lot
downtown
next
to
Acropolis
meets
that's
the
only
vacant
piece,
but
so
they
would
all
have
to
look
at
those
kinds
of
of
numbers
and
and
requirements
if
any
of
those
buildings
were
going
to
be
redeveloped
to
something
else.
There
was
a
concern
about
storm
water.
I
did
add
to
your
staff
report
the
actual
requirement
that
exempts
them
from
storm
water.
Basically,
it's
our
storm
water,
retrofit
section.
K
The
applicant
is
reducing
the
impervious
surface
from
0.85
to
0.83,
but
they
did
work
with
City
staff
to
try
to
alleviate
and
maybe
improve
a
little
bit
the
condition
along
the
alley.
So
when
we
have
heavy
rains
and
really
downtown
is
pretty
high,
not
a
huge
flooding
problem
or
ponding
problem
right
in
in
the
on
that
strip
of
downtown,
but
we
do
store
or
storm
water
streets
and
storm
water.
K
Stuff
was
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
alley
and
trying
to
alleviate
the
rush
of
water
down
that
alley
in
any
erosion,
so
the
applicant,
and
they
can
probably
explain
to
us
a
little
better,
came
up
in
conjunction
with
our
staff,
with
with
a
mini
Vault
type
system
in
the
back
there
behind
the
bar
and
a
bubbler
to
try
to
calm
the
the
release
of
that
water
as
it
exits
and
is
sent
down
the
alley
to
our
system
to
the
east.
K
So
that's
what
this
I
just
tried
to
do:
a
close-up
showing
you,
the
bubbler
and
the
layout,
that
one
of
your
conditions
that
they
will
provide
more
detail,
Construction
level,
drawing
detail
at
building
permit
stage.
K
So,
as
I
said,
they've
received
variates
for
floor
area
and
HPB
approval.
The
project
is
compliant
with
the
Land
Development
code
and
with
the
smart
code.
It
is
compliant
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
it
meets
the
concurrency
management
system
and
we
expect
it
to
be
able
to
comply
with
all
city
building
codes.
So
we
have
six
conditions
that
we
would
like
an
approval
to
include.
As
I
said,
the
applicant
is
addressing
the
first
one
now,
but
we'd
still
like
that
on
there
to
have
it.
K
Have
it
be
clear,
the
first
and
second
one
they're
addressing
public
art.
The
applicant
has
already
contacted
me
to
set
up
meeting
with
the
public
art
committee,
so
hopefully
they'll
be
working
on
that
and,
like
I,
say
they've
already
applied
for
a
building
permit,
so
that
that's
been
done.
So
we
would
recommend
approval
subject
to
those
conditions
and
when
it's
appropriate
I
would
like
to
tender.
My
staff
report,
presentation
and
full
record
as
evidence.
D
L
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
provide
additional
information
to
you
know,
to
flush
out
the
parking,
the
the
reason
for
the
exemption.
Those
numbers
are
recent.
We
literally
collected
those
since
we've
had
this
hearing
identified.
You
know
the
number
of
spaces
we
collected
through
the
property
appraisal
records
all
the
building
Square
footages
in
that
District,
so
that
we
could
give
you.
You
know
an
analysis
of
the
parking
situation
and
show
that
this
meets
the
the
requirement
you
know
meets
that
that
exemption
requirement
right.
L
I'm,
starting
with
the
city,
Renee
Vincent,
I'm
planning
and
zoning
director.
F
So
you
know
you
and
I
met
a
week
or
so
ago,
and
we
talked
about
this
project
and
that
the
and
we
talked
about
actually
a
parking
study.
D
F
F
Yeah,
where
we
are
and
where
we
are
in
the
big
picture
of
parking
in
the
downtown
the
the
issue
wasn't
the
issue
that
was
brought
up
at
the
prior
time.
This
was
brought
to
us,
wasn't
necessarily
parking
availability.
It
was
more
the
the
compatibility
with
with
the
downtown
and
the
pattern
of
parking,
so
it
wasn't
that
we
understand
I.
Think
I
can't
speak
for
them.
I
understand
that
parking
is
not
a
requirement
of
downtown,
because
everybody
has
zero
lot
lines.
Nobody
could
provide
parking.
F
I
understand
that,
but
the
the
thing
you
and
I
kind
of
maybe
had
a
slight
disagreement
on
our
was
whether
or
not
parking
can
be
a
compatibility
issue
which
then
goes
to
you
know
the
comprehensive
plan
on
compatibility,
so
the
the
question
and
I
think
you
and
I
actually
had
a
very
productive
conversation
about
that
that
that
was
more
of
the
concern.
Was
that
and
I
think
when
the
applicant
gets
up
and
and
can
answer
some
the
questions
that
weren't
able
to
be
answered
by
their
representative.
F
The
last
time
was
the
kind
of
the
pattern
of
the
the
tenants
or
members.
However,
you
know
their
their
adds
to
the
whether
they're,
you
know
it's
a
big
difference.
If,
if
all
you
know,
there's
30
or
40
parked
cars
there
all
day
long
in
the
downtown
now
I
I
think
we.
We
had
a
obviously
a
good
conversation
about
how
we
could
address
that
at
a
at
a
future
time,
if,
in
fact
that
became
an
issue,
but
that
was
really
our
thing.
F
L
Them
as
well-
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure,
because
when
you
read
the
way
that
the
exemption
reads,
it
says
where
it
can
be
demonstrated
that
available
parking
is
within
a
five-minute,
walk
public
parking,
and
so
we
felt
like
we
needed
to
provide
additional
information
to
show
here's.
What
the
parking
need
is
where
this
exemption
exists.
Here's
the
parking
that's
available
and
it
will
support
that
available
parking.
F
And
then
support
that
additional
square
footage,
but
I
just
want
you
to
understand
our
issue.
Wasn't
I
I,
don't
know
my
issue.
I
can't
speak
for
anybody
else
was
not
availability
of
parking,
but
the
base
the
the
pattern
of
parking
as
a
compatibility
issue.
So
just
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
you
and
I
had
that
conversation.
L
E
E
F
E
B
Miss
McNeese,
thank
you
so
much
for
adding
more
detail
in
regards
to
the
parking
and
I'm
going
to
politely.
Disagree
with
my
board
member.
My
concern
was
specifically
about
availability
of
parking
and
not
pattern,
because
I
sense
that
there
is
not
availability,
so
I'd
like
to
drill
into
something
and
I'll
just
want
to
use
a
real
world
example
of
availability.
B
If
I
may
be
draw
our
attention
to.
B
Parking
spaces
behind
Flagship,
Bank,
31
and
37.
That's
not
how
they're
labeled
that's
how
many
are
available
there,
and
this
is
where
I
need
a
little
bit
of
help.
Understanding
our
we'll
say,
ad
hoc
parking
analysis,
so
those
that
are
done
in
yellow,
terrific
and
I'll
take
a
moment
to
go
anything.
That's
verbally
agreed
if
I
can
be
so
bold
is
useless.
B
There
are
verbal
agreements,
so
they
don't
mean
a
thing,
but
those
ones
in
yellow
and
I-
and
this
is
the
only
one
that
I'm
really
really
familiar
with-
is
that
behind
Flagship
bank
there's
a
big
old
parking
lot,
there's
a
bunch
of
road
work
done
about
a
year
or
two
years
ago,
and
why
I
bring
this
to
our
attention?
Is
that
for
a
while,
the
bank
put
up
signs
and
told
everybody
that
was
going
to
little
little
shops
right
on
the
North
side
that
they
were
going
to
tow
us
them?
B
And
so
this
huge
parking
lot
sat
vacant
for
years
and
no
one
could
park
there
now.
I
know.
That's
changed,
forgive
me,
but
this
is
there's
a
point
to
this.
So
it's
now
we
rebuilt
the
road
and
now
there's
parking
there,
but
this
big,
yellow
square
that
is
shown
here
with
these
spaces,
isn't
really
accurate,
because
most
of
that
goes
to
the
bank
and
the
building
there
that
have
we're
going
to
tell
you
Signs,
Now
I
know
you
got
the
space
requirement
there.
B
B
M
We
have
lease
agreements
with
the
owners
of
those
lots:
the
reason
that
they're
shown
in
two
because
they're
two
separate
owners
that
own
the
Lots
behind
there.
But
yes,
those
are
the
actual
parking
spaces
that
have
been
identified
in
the
Municipal
Police
with
the
owners
and
the
city.
So
those
spaces
are
available
for
public
parking.
We
have
the
public
parking
signs
posted
there
as
well.
B
Nice
to
meet
you,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
input
and
I
think
no
one
has
to
acknowledge.
But
what
I
said
was
true
is
that
for
the
longest
time
that
big
parking
lot
sat
empty
and
now
we're
relying
on
it
to
feed
or
provide
parking
for
this,
this
new
business,
and
then
this
is
only
hearsay,
but
we
all
know
that
all
those
other
parking
lots
are
full
24
7..
It
just
is
what
it
is
and
we
don't
need
to
deny
that.
B
I
Yeah
I'd
like
to
agree
with
Mr,
vessey
and
I,
was
I.
Do
appreciate
that
the
staff
added
this
to
the
presentation
but
I'm,
sorry
590
spaces,
I
I'm,
not
buying
that
so
I
mean
the
biggest
issue
that
we
had
before,
and
it's
still
the
same
issue
today
is
it's
definitely
availability
and
because
it's
not
a
requirement
doesn't
mean
it's
not
a
reality
and
especially
to
the
people
that
live
here.
So
we
know
that
these
spaces
are
not
available.
I
24
7.,
we
had
a
festival
recently
in
town
and
and
I
assume,
that's
how
these
numbers
were
calculated,
because
you
see
that
they're
going
down
the
streets
here
showing
that
you
can
park
on
these
streets.
Well,
when
you
park
on
these
streets,
you
make
them
one-way
streets
and
during
any
type
of
busy
hour
you
you
just
Jam
traffic
up.
I
So
during
this
Festival
it
was
down
at
Craig
Park.
There
was
no
parking
that
was
provided
so
all
the
people
that
attended
just
parked
all
along
spring
Boulevard.
You
know
that
essentially
just
became
a
one-way
Road
with
nobody
directing
traffic
either
way.
So
there's
going
to
be
no
way
to
regulate
this
sure.
There's
590
spots
available
you're
talking
about.
I
So,
while
I
appreciate
the
updated
numbers,
I'm,
just
not
believable
and
I
did
want
to
add
about
the
verbal
agreement.
I
I,
don't
understand
who's
made
these
verbal
agreements.
I,
don't
know
anybody
in
town
who
would
just
say
yeah.
The
city
can
use
my
parking
whenever
so
I'd
like
to
have
some
explanation
on
who
these
verbal
agreements
are
with
with
the
city
yeah.
M
Again,
when
we've
been
looking
at
parking
for
several
years,
we
all
know
as
a
downtown
is
growing
and
getting
more
active.
More
businesses
at
parking
is
an
issue,
and
but
without
going
into
all
of
that,
we
we
started
leasing
the
designating
and
looking
at
areas
that
we
could
lease
parking
lots.
M
M
We
they
are
good
City
Partners
to
us,
especially
during
festivals,
so
we
had
talked
with
them
about
entering
into
agreements
with
them
for
liability
reasons
they
weren't
going
to
their
privately
owned
their
corporations.
However,
they
told
us
that
they
they're
good
Community
Partners
they're
not
going
to
tow
anybody.
M
The
parking
lots
are
are
open
to
people
who
can
use
them
during
the
evenings
when
we
have
festivals,
our
sanitation
crew
comes
out
and
make
sure
that
they
clean
them
up.
So
the
verbal
agreement
means
that,
as
a
city
as
a
city
partner
as
a
downtown
business,
that
has
parking
lots.
They
are
not
going
to
be
Towing
anybody
out
of
those
lots
and
those
was
in
discussions
with
the
two
bank
managers,
and
we
appreciate
that.
B
A
thought
experiment.
If
this
cohatch
was
outside
this
transect
and
the
intensity
of
business,
that
it's
it's
suggesting,
what
would
its
parking
requirements
be
if
it
was
outside
the
cohatch
and
just
stand
alone
in
any
other
business
district?
How
many
parking
places
would
be
required?
K
So
gross
flurries
things
that
don't
include
stairwells
hallways
things
like
that
storage
areas,
so
it
would
be
about
39
spaces
for
the
existing
and
the
new
building
without
the
shared
parking,
Factor,
actually
32
spaces,
with
the
shared
parking
factor
which
they'd
be
able
to
use
for
this
building.
So.
D
K
B
K
N
If
I
could
thank
you
Mr
chairman
in
regards
to
the
site
plan
and
the
trash
receptacle
or
or
storage
bin
or
whatever
you
want
to
designate
it
as-
and
this
may
be
a
good
question
for
the
staff
or
maybe
something
you
wish
to
be
directed
to
the
applicant.
So
I'll
defer
to
your
judgment
on
that.
That
alley
way
back
there
being
that
it's,
the
width
is
prohibited
to
any
sort
of
vehicular
entry
and
a
bar
in
restaurant
use
proposed.
K
Is
there
and
we
go
through
facilities
impacts
on
pages
three
and
four?
If
your
staff
report
there
is
a
shared
dumpster
right
in
the
back
of
that
Orange
Street
parking
lot
right
across
the
well
Cathy
corner
across
the
alley,
the
applicant,
actually,
the
existing
building
in
use,
was
already
paying
into
that
shared
dumpster.
That
payment
fee
will
be
recalculated
for
this
new
use.
This
applicant
will
be
using
that
shared
dumpster.
At
the
same
time,
public
works.
K
Let
me
know
they're
going
to
be
upgrading
that
dumpster
with
a
compactor
as
well,
and
that's
what
these
owners,
along
this
north
side
of
Tarpon,
either
move
totes
out
to
hibiscus,
depending
on
how
much
they
generate
or
they
use
that
shared
shed
dumpster
along
with
the
Tarpon
Tavern
and
those
couple
of
the
others.
So
thank.
D
F
A
F
Okay,
so
your
available
downtown
spaces
Does.
It
include
those
items
in
red
that
were
privately
owned,
available
and
used
for
public
Does.
It
include
those.
K
A
F
Yeah,
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
that's,
okay,
okay,
so
yeah
the
these
yeah
I
mean
with
without
a
a
true
study
which
I
think
the
city
should
spend
the
money
and
do
which
would
have
you
know
not
not
just
would
this
is
helpful,
but
right,
but
a
real
study
that
had
times
and-
and
you
know,
capacity
at
times
and
all
those
kinds
of
things
short
of
having
that
all
of
us
are
talking
anecdotal
right
when
we
say
well,
I
think
there's
a
parking
problem,
there's
not
a
parking
problem.
F
A
F
Would
most
likely
I
would
choose
if
I
was
going
to
go
park
down
there,
I
wouldn't
choose
to
park
in
one
of
those
spots
because
I
wouldn't
I
would
assume
that's
you
know
private
parking
lot
and
I
might
get
towed
away
or
something
so
but
I
understand
how
so
Karen.
How
can
we
without
having
any
of
their
liability
issues?
F
M
D
F
M
It's
not
a
very
known
quantity
of
sure
we
can
always
follow
up
with
them
for
some
signage,
that
might
say,
Festival
parking,
something
like
that
that
can
be
put
up
during
events
that
we
could
say.
You
know,
after
our
parking
available.
F
So
I
think
we
need
to
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
use
those
as
parking
to
help.
Whatever
this
use
air
quotes
problem
parking
problem
we
have,
then
we
should
figure
out
a
way
to
direct
people
that
they
can
do
that.
K
Stuff
can
certainly
depend
you
know
when
you
act
on
this.
We
can
certainly
add
something
to
the
board's
presentation
expressing
your
whole
concern
with
Downtown
parking
in
general
yeah,
and
you
know
your
your
desire.
I
know
since
I've
been
here,
they've
talked
about
parking
garages,
I
think
they've
talked
about
parking
studies,
but
I
think
I.
Think
they're,
aware
I.
F
Place
but
before
we
spend
whatever
millions
of
dollars
on
a
parking
garage,
we
need
to
have
a
parking
study
and
I
know.
That's
not
your
thing.
I
mean
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
budgeted
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and,
and
you
know,
hire
the
you
know
out
outside
parking
analysis,
people
that
do
such
things
so
I
understand.
That's
not
and
again,
it's
not
your
your
fault.
B
K
K
B
L
L
B
M
L
They
we
would
have
to
do
the
same
analysis
that
you
know
it
says
you're
exempt
as
long
as
you
can
show
that
there's
available
parking
so
within
the
five-minute
walk
shed.
So
that's
what
we've
you
know
tried
to
provide
the
actual
public
parking
that's
available
now.
Does
that
mean
it's
available
24
hours
a
day,
no
I
mean
that's
I
mean
go
to
the
mall.
It
doesn't
work
that
way.
L
J
I
heard
I
heard
earlier,
when
you
were
talking
about
shared
parking
I,
think
it
was
the
young
lady
beside
you,
I
forget
your
name.
Forgive
me,
but
I
had
heard
shared
parking
for
special
events
and
that
concerns
me.
Is
it
just
for
special
events
that
we
intended
those
shared
parkings
to
accommodate.
K
Shared
parking
refers
to
the
different
uses.
Okay,
so
you
can.
You
can
cut
it.
It's
a
factor
that
reduces
the
number
based
on
somebody's
going
to
the
right
that
that's
working
up
in
the
office
is
going
to
go
downstairs
and
eat
in
a
restaurant.
That's
why,
instead
of
so
you,
you
kind
of
combine
them
and
you.
M
J
L
Make
sure
we
got
the
question
clear
so
we
have
least
Lots.
So
lease
lots
are
available.
24
7.,
the
ones
by
verbal
agreement,
I
think,
is
more
what
she
was
discussing
with.
We
won't
toe,
and
especially
during
special
events,
but
those
that's
what
we
didn't
count
them
in
the
second
set
of
calculations,
But.
M
F
Okay,
so
let's
have
a
time
out
here:
okay,
so
this
Karen,
you
can
come
back
if
you
want
wait
a
minute,
so
we're
talking
about
a
business,
that's
going
to
function
during
the
day
right
right
and
now
you
guys
are
bringing
up
these
oranges.
That
you're
saying
are
for
special
events
at
night.
F
M
F
I
Wanted
just
to
add
that
by
adding
these-
and
you
did
mark
them
as
potential
which
I
I
agree
is
misleading
as
soon
as
these
are
seen
as
available
during
the
day
say,
truest
very
quickly
through
his
bank
will
not
allow
the
city
to
use
any
of
that
parking.
Once
people
start
using
it
to
park
for
cohatch
that
verbal
agreement
will
disappear
immediately
and
then
everybody
else
in
the
city
that
tries
to
use
it
for
nighttime
events
like
to
go
to
Johnny's
across
the
street.
I
Now
that
that
relationship
is
now
over,
so
I
mean
by
putting
these
in
here,
I
mean
you're,
not
it's
not
helping
the
applicant
either,
because
it's
misleading
that
that
there's
more
potential
spaces
for
them
that
really
don't
exist
and
the
people
that
come
for
these
office
spaces
aren't
going
to
know
that
it's
not
it's
not
really
their
responsibility
to
know
that
either.
If
it
says
no
toe,
then
they'll
be
upset
that
they're
Towing
but
truest
bank,
and
these
other
orange
places
they
won't
have
any
I
mean
other.
I
That
will
be
their
only
option
because
it'll
start
being
abused
and
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
prevent
that
in
any
way.
And
then
the
five
minute
thing
I
think
is
really
stretching
it.
A
flagship
bank
is
across
the
street
from
altar
19..
It's
and
it's
two
blocks
down
from
Tarpon
Avenue
in
the
this,
the
applicant's
business.
E
Okay
and
approximately,
how
many
properties
would
that
consist
of?
Do
you
have
just
a
rough
idea
of
how
many.
E
K
K
E
D
E
A
Seeing
none
would
the
applicant
like
to
make
a
presentation
approach
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
and
address.
O
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Angela.
Hendershot
I
represent
the
architect
for
Architects
on
the
project.
I
live
in
Temple
Terrace,
so.
O
200
Madison,
Avenue,
Tampa,
Florida
and
sorry
Pat
did
a
great
job
kind
of
going
through
the
process.
She's
highlighted
everything
in
red,
really
architecturally
and
site
plan
wise.
There
aren't
any
changes
based
on
what
you
saw
last
time.
There's
clarifications
that
she's
she's
noted
in
Red,
so
I'm
simply
available
to
answer
any
questions.
O
We
do
specialize
in
historic
preservation,
projects
and
adaptive,
reuse
of
historic
buildings,
so
we're
very
honored
to
be
working
on
this,
the
the
oldest
building
in
in
the
in
the
city,
but
really
I,
know
what
you
want
to
hear
from
us
is
from
the
applicant
themselves,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Chris
from
cohajan.
Yes,
I
have
been
sworn
sorry.
I
forgot
that
part
at
the
beginning.
P
P
The
down
okay,
great,
thank
you
for
everyone.
Taking
the
time
I
know,
we've
already
been
through
a
lot
of
conversation
here,
so
I'll
try
to
go
very
quickly.
Try
to
hit
some
highlights
and
then
open
up
for
questions,
because
I
know,
that's
probably
what
you
all
would
like
to
do.
We
are
very
interested
in
this
project.
The
reason
coax
exists
is
really
to
do
projects
like
this
we're
doing
adaptive,
reuse
within
historical
walkable
communities
across
the
country,
primarily
in
the
midwest
in
the
Southeast.
P
We
came
down
to
Tampa
because
we
have
a
lot
of
friends
and
family
that
are
interested
in
coax
being
down
here.
We
came
down
here
two
and
a
half
years
ago
to
begin
our
site
locations
and
We
Came,
Upon,
This
location,
we're
very
very
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
bring
some
life
back
to
it.
P
This
is
our
project
team,
which
you
have
I
think
in
this
file:
Brian
Sanders
who's,
our
Tampa
market
leader,
he's,
unfortunately
out
of
the
country.
He
was
one
to
be
here
tonight,
but
he
had
already
had
a
pre-plane
trip
before
that,
but
he
is
a
Tampa
Bay
resident.
P
He
actually
runs
the
market
for
us
Noel
Cruz
who's,
one
of
one
of
the
great
restaurant
tourers
in
the
community
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Region
he's
the
one
that's
going
to
be
running
the
made
whole,
which
will
be
the
the
restaurant
that
will
be
cohabitating
the
space
with
Co
hatch.
P
Really,
what
cohatch
really
seeks
to
do
is
we're
looking
at
not
traditional
co-working,
the
way
you
might
have
seen
it
before.
We
really
look
at
all
three
aspects
of
your
life,
your
work,
life,
your
meeting
life
and
your
live
life.
So
this
isn't
just
about
coming
to
work
from
eight
to
five
Monday
through
Friday.
This
space
is
really
meant
to
be
an
extension
of
your
home
to
be
able
to
use
in
a
much
different
way.
So
as
far
as
it
relates
to
the
the
traffic
flow
and
the
things
I
think
were
really
important
to
everybody.
P
Here
is
you're
not
going
to
walk
into
one
of
our
locations
and
have
200
people
sitting
in
one
of
those
space
in
the
location
at
any.
Given
time
it's
going
to
be
you
walk
in.
There
could
be
10
people,
there
could
be
15
people,
there
could
be
20
people.
People
are
mostly
small
business
owners,
medium-sized
business
owners
startups,
so
they're
in
and
out
of
the
space
they're,
not
there.
It's
rare
that
you
have
somebody
there.
That's
from
you
know
eight
in
the
morning
until
10
o'clock
at
night.
P
It
just
is
very
unusual
to
have
that
they're
coming
in
at
different
hours.
It's
very
spread
out,
so
all
of
almost
all
of
our
locations
are
in
these
walkable
main
streets
that
have
the
exact
same
issues
that
you
do.
We
really
really
work
hard
to
work
with
the
city
and
the
community
to
make
sure
that
we're
they
understand.
Our
business
flow
is
not
this
kind
of
all
at
once.
Heavy
business
flow
that
creates
stress
on
the
parking
within
a
community.
P
Otherwise
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
be
going
into
all
the
communities
we
go
into
because
our
traffic
flow
is
usually
very
disparate.
It's
it's
revolving.
It's
not
all
hit
at
once.
It
really
doesn't
create
extra
stress
in
a
community
in
all
the
different
locations.
We've
we've
been
in
really.
What
is
really
unique
about
coax
is
we're
not
just
looking
to
do
the
Adaptive
Rios
for
the
sake
of
doing
adaptive,
reuse
we're
really
looking
at
the
community.
P
What
the
needs
of
the
city
are,
what
the
needs
of
the
non-profits
in
the
community
are
what
the
needs
of
the
businesses
are
in
the
community
and
what
the
city
needs,
and
what
they're
looking
for
to
really
Revitalize
that
incredible
history
of
that
building.
Our
team
spent
weeks
and
weeks
and
weeks
and
months
and
months
in
design
to
understand
the
history
of
this
space,
understanding
the
the
character
of
it
understanding
all
the
different
nuances
of
Tarpon
Springs
have
Incorporated
that
into
the
design
which
you'll
get
to
see
a
little
bit
here.
P
But
if,
once
once,
we
ever
were
to
get
open
you'd
be
able
to
really
see
the
appreciation
for
understanding
what
the
history
here
and
this
community
and
that
particular
building
one
thing
that
we
do,
that
is
very
unique.
Is
we
have
three
different
types
of
scholarship?
It
gives
scholarship
a
boost,
scholarship
and
a
Civic
scholarship.
Civic
scholarships
are
for
City
staff,
fire
departments,
police
departments,
people
that
don't
really
have
access
to
this
kind
of
space.
We
actually
allow
them
to
use
these
spaces
for
free.
P
We
do
the
same
for
startups,
for
people
that
don't
have
access
to
Capital,
maybe
can't
afford
to
you
know,
belong
to
one
of
our
locations.
We
also
grant
them
in
for
free
and
then
our
give
scholarship
is
for
non-profits
that
are
doing
good
in
your
community.
That
usually
don't
have
a
place
to
go
to
work.
They
usually
have
a
place
to
do
their
board
meetings.
They
don't
have
a
place
to
do
a
fundraiser.
You
know
things
like
that.
P
The
Partnerships
we
have
in
the
community
and
as
I
mentioned
made
whole
will
be
as
a
local
operator
that
would
be
providing
the
food
and
beverage
concept
at
cohatch.
These
are
just
some
examples
of
some
of
the
Adaptive
reuse
that
we've
done
most.
A
lot
of
these
buildings
are
going
to
the
oldest
one.
We've
done
is
160
years
old
that
we've
repurposed
and
brought
back
to
life.
This
is
one
in
Springfield
Ohio.
P
This
one
is
also
that
was
our
first
location,
Cincinnati
Ohio,
almost
identical
space
is
here
it's
three
stories.
Although
the
tarpon
one
is
two
but
very
walkable,
Community
zero
parking
on
the
Main
Street
zero
Municipal
parking,
nowhere
near
the
parking
that
we
saw
today,
we've
had
no
stress
on
the
community
as
a
result
of
our
use.
P
This
is
Lakeland
which
just
opened
up
right
on
Main
Street
right
on
the
park
in
in
downtown
Lakeland
we
opened
about
two
weeks
ago.
They
have
similar
again
issues
mostly
street
parking,
very
few
Municipal
Lots
around
we're,
not
create
any
stress
in
that
environment
and
if
you
ever
had
a
chance
to
get
over
to
see
what
our
our
product
looks
like.
This
was
a
again
originally
the
post
office
of
Lakeland
100
plus
years
ago.
P
1902
is
when
the
building
was
built
and
we
brought
this
back
to
life,
and
it's
really
serving
the
community
well
already
downtown
St
Pete,
another
historical
repurposing
of
an
old
hotel
and
then
in
West
Tampa.
This
is
a
community
that
the
the
multiple
blocks
of
just
basically
abandoned
buildings
that
we're
going
in
and
repurposing
with
several
other
Partners
to
bring
this
whole
block
back
to
life
and
we're
very
excited
about
this
project
as
well.
P
Our
vision
for
Tarpon
is
really
to
continue
to
build
out
the
the
sites
within
the
region
to
be
able
to
serve
the
different
members
across
the
region
really
connecting
to
the
community.
As
I
mentioned,
our
design
team
and
our
construction
team
really
spent
a
tremendous
amount
of
time.
Understanding
the
history
of
the
building
understand
the
history
of
the
community
to
be
able
to
incorporate
that
into
our
design.
P
These
are
some
of
the
different
amenities
that
will
be
available.
The
meeting
rooms
we
have
game
rooms
for
people,
so
their
kids
can
come
to
our
spaces.
We've
got
kitchenettes
and
kind
of
a
place
for
it
to
gather
these
are
really
more
like
a
town
hall
2.0.
This
is
not
a
traditional
co-working,
which
is
why
we
would
never
say
that
we're
going
to
come
in
and
bring
something
that
doesn't
add
value
to
the
community.
P
You
already
seen
the
side
plane,
so
I
won't
review
any
of
these
things.
I
think
just
one
quick
understanding,
because
I
think
this
is
to
the
parking
and
some
of
the
use,
questions.
The
the
left
and
the
right
side
so
left
side
is,
is
the
food.
The
right
side
is
part
of
the
cohatch
and
we
have
a
shared
space
that
sits
in
between.
P
So
during
the
day,
it's
used
more
for
cohatch,
more
for
kind
of
meetings
and
then
at
night
it
can
be
a
little
bit
of
overflow
for
seating
for
the
restaurant,
but
these
I
think
the
restaurants
total
about
3
500
square
feet.
So
it's
not
very
big.
So
we
try
to
again
get
maximum
use
out
of
the
space
so
that
our
both
our
members
and
the
everyday
customers
that
made
whole
will
be
able
to
have
a
great
experience,
and
the
second
floor
is
is
mostly
private
office.
P
You
can
see.
Most
of
these
are
singles,
so
it's
one
person
you
walk
in
any
of
our
locations,
any
of
the
given
offices.
Maybe
half,
are
being
used
at
any
given
time.
It's
just
not
a
business
model,
everyone,
the
whole
purpose
of
being
a
small
business
owner
is,
you
don't
have
to
go
to
some
place
eight
to
five
every
day
and
that's
the
beauty
of
our
motto,
particularly
in
a
post-covered
world,
as
you
all
know
that
this
is
the
shape
of
the
building.
Today,.
J
P
The
year
yeah,
so
the
private
offices,
think
of
like
an
apartment,
people
are
going
to
use,
that's
their
theirs.
It's
got
a
lock
on
it.
No
one
else
can
use
it,
so
it's
only
their
space.
So
there's
one
up
to
a
four-person
private
offices.
Most
of
the
offices.
People
like
a
four
person,
is
probably
two
people
using
it.
P
It's
just
the
really
way
we
price
it
based
on
the
size
of
it
and
then
there's
co-working
members,
which
would
be
somebody
that
does
not
have
a
office
but
can
just
use
all
the
open
area
can
use
the
meeting
rooms.
You
can
use
the
the
you
know
larger
kind
of
meeting
event
space,
so
they
have
access
to
that
in
all
of
our
locations
around
the
city.
So
it's
not
just
this
location,
they
can
be
a
member
of
they
can
be
a
member
of
any
location.
So.
J
P
They're
all
one
to
two
year,
memberships
for
the
most
part
you
can
do
month
to
month,
but
almost
probably
90
something
percent
of
ours
are
people
want
to
lock
it
up
because
they
know
there's
only
a
few
of
them,
so
they
don't
get
access
to
that
many
of
them,
and
so
those
are
generally
for
that
and
they
maybe
20
30
percent,
will
turn
over
on
a
given
year.
So
you'll
have
new
people
come
in
and
take
over
those
offices.
Someone
maybe
gets
too
big.
J
My
last
question
with
the
other
locations:
do
you
keep
flow
statistics
as
to
what
the
flow
is
like
with
these
with
those
locations?
Yeah.
P
I
mean
we've
been
in
business
for
six
years.
It's
our
seventh
year
in
business.
You
will
look
Monday
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday
Friday.
P
You
can
almost
not
predict
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
on
any
given
day
so,
but
what
I
can
say
is
I've
been
working
out
of
one
myself
for
four
years
and
you'll
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
had
more
than
20
30
people
at
one
time
in
our
building.
Ours
is
13
000
square
feet.
It's
almost
the
exact
same
size
as
this.
It's
in
a
walkable.
You
know
Community
as
well.
It's
just
because
people
will
leave
they'll
come
in
for
two
hours,
they'll
leave
and
other
people.
P
So
maybe
over
the
course
of
a
day
you
may
have
50
60
70
different
people
in
and
out,
but
it's
it's
never
like
everybody
there
at
once
and
that's
six
years
of
history
of
doing
it
again.
I
think
it's
because
that's
the
nature
of
the
work
style
for
most
people
is
they're,
just
not
sitting
there
all
day
long.
Thank
you
sure.
Great
questions.
E
P
F
Hey,
let
me.
F
I'm
familiar
with
the
Oxford
Exchange
in
Tampa
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
it,
the
Oxford
Exchange
has
the
it
looks
similar
to
one
of
some
of
your
other
again.
I
can't
tell
from
the
other
pictures.
It
didn't
have
necessarily
a
whole
bunch
of
small
offices.
It
had
meeting
rooms
and
then
a
much
larger
common
space
with
tables
for
people
to
bring
their
laptops
and
sit
down
and
work.
F
I
think
what
you
know,
what
concern
I
again:
I'm,
not
going
to
speak
for
anybody
else.
What
concerned
me
when
we
got
down
to
this
parking
compatibility
issue?
We
had
was
the
number
of
offices
I,
hear
what
you're
saying
and
I'm
not
disagreeing
that
what
you're
you
know,
you're
being
forthright,
but
the
I
have
a
hard
time
wrapping
my
my
head
around
the.
If,
if
it's
a
single
office
use
and
somebody
is
got
a
designated
office,
so
you
have
you've
got
these
two
Arrangements
right.
F
You
have
this
membership
kind
of
thing
where
somebody
can
come
and
hang
out
in
the
center
area
and
and
maybe
use
a
meeting
room,
and
then
you
have
actual
lease
agreements
with
individual
businesses
or
guys
in
business.
You
would
suspect.
So
why?
Wouldn't
somebody
who
has
a
single
unit,
be
there
I
mean
if
he's,
if
he's
working
from
home,
he
wouldn't
necessarily
need
a
single
unit
because
he
can't
meet
anybody
there.
F
Unless
you
know
he
meets
him
in
the
in
the
general
area,
then
why
would
he
want
a
unit
and
have
to
pay?
You
know
have
to
be
on
a
one
or
two
year,
lease
agreement,
so
I
think
that's
there's
so
many
rooms
here
I
mean,
and
maybe
the
architect
can
answer
how
many
offices
are
there
here.
F
So
and
I
think
that's
what
concerns
us
with
concerns
me
with
the
what
intensity
it's
going
to
put
on
parking
again.
We
have
and
I
think
there's
a
business
owner
here
that
probably
will
get
up
and
speak
I
I
assume
he
will
of
us.
F
So
the
you
know
right
now.
We
don't.
We
have
mostly
small,
like
retail,
we've
got
a
you
know,
coffee
shop
people
come,
maybe
you
know,
maybe
they
would
park
there
for
an
hour,
walk
around
downtown.
There's
it's
not
that
big,
a
downtown
and
they
could
walk
around
in
an
hour,
pretty
much
check
every
shop
out
and
then
get
in
the
car
and
go
home
the
same
thing
with
some
guy
at
a
coffee
shop.
F
Now,
if
we've
got
30
potential
businesses
there,
that
could
show
up
at
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
stay
till
five,
then
it
would
potentially
disrupt
you
know
the
ability
of
these
more
transient
businesses
to
have
access
to
parking.
You
know
that's
more
convenient,
otherwise,
they're.
You
know
somebody
going
to
faculty
Orthopedics
to
go
pick
up.
Some
Orthotics
and
he's
got
to
now
walk
five.
You
know
minute
walk
to
come
there
and
get
his
thing
and
then
go
home.
F
O
Obviously
it's
totally
business
dependent
and
I
can
only
speak
as
far
as
myself
in
a
in
a
design
business
in
architecture,
I'm
out
of
my
office,
I
would
say
at
least
40
to
50
of
the
time
I'm
meeting
with
clients,
I'm
meeting
with
Engineers
I'm
on
the
job
site,
I'm,
visiting
buildings,
I'm
I'm,
taking
field
measurements,
and
and
that's
you
know
a
long
established
50-year,
plus
company
and
and
so
I
would
say,
the
more
entrepreneurial,
a
business,
the
more
likely
they
are
to
be
out
and
about
in
in
the
community.
P
Again,
we
have
six
years
of
operating
history,
the
nature
of
our
clients,
because
you
have
everything
from
marketing
people
to
insurance
sales,
people
to
Realtors
to
small
Tech
startups.
You
have
some
larger
companies
and
now
have
given
stipends
to
their
people.
They
can
work
wherever
they
want,
so
you
got
that
going
on
so,
but
people
still
like
to
have
that
work,
flexibility.
That
is
the
purpose
of
coax.
It
gives
you
that
flexibility
with
your
work
life,
your
meeting
life
and
your
personal
life,
because
people
can
use
this,
for
you
know
a
birthday
party
if
they.
P
P
They
were
built
on
that
kind
of
model
because
you
had
to
go
to
work
and
you
had
to
go
downtown
that
those
days
are
gone
and
we
never
were
in
that
business.
We
don't
do
downtown
locations.
We
do
walkable
Suburban
Urban
walkable
communities,
that
is
our
bread
and
butter.
That's
who
we
are
I
just
I
only
can
tell
you
is
that
small
business
owners
don't
like
to
go
to
the
office
10
hours
a
day.
P
F
And
we
take
this
relationship
with
you
guys
very
seriously:
I
I,
I,
I
I
think
the
concept
is,
is
cool
and
great
and
I
think
it's
you
know
I
like
it.
It's
again
a
compatibility.
Can
we
go
back
to
a
couple?
Some
of
your
interior
pictures
see
like
okay,
so
there
again
I
it's
I
see
a
lot
of
open
space.
Yeah.
F
Restaurant
oops.
D
P
But
this
is
like,
so
this
is
the
second
floor,
so
this
is
where
you
see
some
of
the
co-working
and
some
of
the
little
offices
up
there
second
floor
co-working
again
see
the
offices
we
don't
like
most
co-working
companies.
They
would
probably
put
60
offices
in
this.
That's
not
what
we
do
we're
not
about
jamming
a
bunch
of
people
into
those
little
glass.
P
F
Mean
again,
the
Oxford
Exchange
has
little
phone
rooms,
they.
F
P
O
J
J
P
O
The
net
for
the
entire
cohatch
space,
all
of
the
office
spaces,
including
phone
booths
offices,
meeting
rooms,
kitchenette
the
net
for
the
entire
cohatch,
is
5872.
On
the
second
floor,
that.
J
P
Plan
that
depends
on
the
demand,
but
it's
not.
We
don't
necessarily
donate
as
many
of
the
offices
the
offices
could
be.
We
have
non-profits
that
use
the
offices,
but
we
donate
are
the
are
the
co-working
scholarships
to
those
with
co-working.
Memberships
is
what
we
donate
and
they're
selected
non-profits.
That
would
also
have
offices
as
well,
but
most
of
90.
Something
percent
of
the
officers
are
going
to
be
fully
paid,
the
commercial
because
they
help
that
which
helps
fund
us
doing
the
scholarships.
N
J
N
First
of
all,
I
applaud
your
your
efforts
for
preservation
and,
and
you
know,
maintenance
of
of
that
building,
certainly,
and
also
as
as
for
mentioned,
the
scholarship
and
Community
participation
and
integration.
My
only
question
is
yet
you
have
other
comparative
properties,
some
in
the
vicinity
here
and
some
elsewhere
in
the
country.
Do
any
of
those
also
have
the
mixed
use
of
restaurant
and
office
and
being
that
you
responded
affirmatively
have
you
seen
any
overlap,
concerns
with
parking?
N
D
P
They're
very
symmetrical,
and
it
really
is
perfect
for
us
they
comp
they
complement
what
we're
already
doing
so,
for
example,
if
we
have
a
a
corporate
event,
you
know,
let's
say
someone's
doing
a
you
know.
15
person,
meeting
the
food
and
beverage
can
come
over
and
serve
them
and
they
can
do
or
they
have
a
meeting
they're
doing
a
happy
hour
with
here.
So
it's
it
really
just
creates
this
incredible
Community
Building,
because
meals
is
how
you
really
create
Community.
That's.
D
P
We
like
to
do
it,
it
doesn't
fit
for
every
location,
but
when
it's
walkable
like
this,
which
is
a
great
walkable
downtown
like
Tarpon
Springs,
it's
a
perfect
match
for
it
and
they
do
because
what
most
people
realize
is
the
office
part?
It
actually
doesn't
create
any
stress
I.
Most
people,
you
would
think,
would
be
pushing
back
on
the
restaurant
side,
but
because
it's
one
hour
two
hour
in
and
out
people
don't
really
push
back
on
it.
But
we
don't
see
any
stress
from
the
office
side.
P
N
And
the
restaurant
is
proposed
to
be
open
to
the
public,
oh
for
sure,
lunch
and
dinner
right
and
that's,
but
being
all
the
concerns
brought
about
parking.
That's
that's
my
concern.
If
you're
going
to
have
a
preponderance
of
attendance
at
the
building
at
times,
that
may
overlap
that
that,
may
you
know,
be
a
a
point
of
concern.
Yeah.
P
N
I
P
Yeah,
you
could
have
anywhere
between
50
and
100.
What
we
call
co-working
members
and
those
people
have
restrictions
on
there's
different
four
different
levels
from
you
can
use
it
for
eight
hours
a
month.
All
the
way
up
to
you
can
use
it
unlimited,
which
means
you
can
come
at
any
time:
24
7,
7
days
a
week,
so
that
all
varies
based
on
the
membership
level
that
you
have,
but
we
typically
are
going
to
have
I
would
seen.
P
Brown
in
in
this
community
is
probably
75
to
100,
eventually
co-working
members
over
the
next
two
years
that
you
would
probably
have
of
which
they're
usually
in
once
a
week
twice
a
week
on
average,
most
co-working
members,
some
some
join
they're
there
once
a
month
because
they
just
they
want
to
use
it
for
personal
use.
They
don't
use
it
for
work,
they'll
use
it
for
their.
You
know
their
family
birthday
party
they'll
use
it
for
a
wedding.
P
You
know
a
baby
shower
or
something
like
that,
something
where
again,
you
can't
do
it
in
your
home,
and
you
take
a
great
space
like
this.
With
a
nice
meeting
room,
you
can
actually
celebrate
and
do
things
that
you
normally
can't
do
in
your
home.
So
that's
that's
really
why
a
lot
of
people
end
up
with
a
co-working
membership
outside
of
just
the
work
reason.
Well,.
I
I
P
Because
our
members,
when
they
come
in
to
our
space-
and
they
say,
hey
I,
they
they
come
in,
for
maybe
you
say
you
come
in
for
a
business
meeting
like
wow.
This
place
is
awesome,
and
so
then
they
end
up
may
join
as
a
member,
and
then
they
know
that
they
can
actually
use
it
for
not
just
work.
They
can
meet
their
after
work.
For
a
friend
have
a
coffee.
They
have
a
book
club
that
they
want
to
meet.
That's
the
whole
point
of
the
using
coax
as
a
community
space.
P
It's
not
just
for
going
to
work
from
eight
to
five.
That's
why
you
don't
have
the
parking
stress,
because
it's
not
an
eight
to
five
heavy
use
business,
it's
different
hours
of
the
day
different
times!
That's
why
communities
love
us!
That's
why
we're
asked
in
the
most
communities
to
come
in
because
they
understand
that's
what
their
Community
needs.
Well,.
P
F
F
F
The
center
I
saw
the
pictures,
so
have
you
considered
increasing
the
co-working
space
and
reducing
the
number
of
offices?
Could
you
could
your
model
work
with
less
offices
and
more
open
space.
P
We
already
test
the
downside
of
the
office
space
on
all
of
our
locations
again
compared
to
anyone
doing
this
kind
of
product
anywhere
in
the
country.
We
have
the
lowest
square
footage
allocated
to
private
office,
as
as
it
relates
to
them
the
co-working,
the
meeting
spaces,
the
phone
booths,
these
I
guess
full
access
space
parts
of
the
space,
because
it's
not
it's
not
the
highest
density.
It's
not
a
high
density
use.
We
need
it
from
a
revenue
generation
right.
F
P
We
already
kind
of
bring
it
down
to
the
lowest
possible
because
we
actually
want
the
flow.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
a
bunch
of
offices.
We
want
to
be
this
open
float,
which
you
feel,
even
though
it
looks
on
a
floor
plan
like
it's
that
when
you
actually
walk
around
the
space,
it
doesn't
feel
like
that.
E
I
I
have
just
a
couple:
do
you
have
a
limit
on
the
co-working
memberships.
P
Not
today,
because
we
don't
these,
we
have
lots
of
locations
around
the
community.
So
they're,
just
you
don't
get
you
don't
you
don't
usually
go
over
100,
typically
in
the
locations
that
we've
got,
can.
E
Members
from
other
locations
use
this
location.
Yes,
and
this
location
has
a
restaurant
correct,
correct?
How
many
seats
are
you
planning
for.
O
I
have
everything
sorry
I,
have
everything
calculated
with
the
the
code
required
occupant
Factor?
That's
not
necessarily
the
number
of
seats.
Okay,.
E
Well,
I
was
actually
going
to
ask
you
about
the
numbers:
okay,
okay,
so
you
don't
have
number
of
seats,
but
I
was
going
to
ask
you
that
was
my
next
question
was
what
the
occupancy
limits
of
the
building
are
both
for
your
events
and
for
your
co-working
space.
What
your
your
actual
occupancy
pursuant
to
the
fire
code
would
be.
O
The
occupancy
the
the
total
allowable
occupancy
for
the
use
that
we
have
based
on
the
Square
footages
is
let's
see
is,
is
287.
That's.
D
O
Floors
and
that's
obviously,
that's
a
that's
a
code
requirement
that
we
use
typically
to
size
the
egress.
So
that's
how
we
sized
the
stairs
the
stairs
for
for
exiting.
That's
not
that's!
That's
not
a
a
usage.
O
I
P
P
So
one
two
I
think
there's
like
three
or
four
offices
in
that
hallway.
We
don't
take
pictures
of
the
hallway
because
there
are
the
obstacles,
there's
nothing
in
them.
It's
the
meeting
rooms
and
the
co-working
that
the
renderings
illustrate,
but
the
private
office
just
there's
nothing
in
them.
There's
no
furniture.
We
don't
provide.
P
J
A
All
right
that
would
get
us
up
to
to
the
public
comment
portion
of
our.
Thank
you
our
meeting.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
take
a
brief
break.
If
we
may
for
10
minutes
and
then
come
back
here
to
to
continue.