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A
Yes,
mr
seaman,
yes,
now
can
we
address
february
28
22.
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D
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G
B
A
Yes,
mr
seaman,
yes,
that
brings
us
to
item
number
three.
That's
the
quasi-judicial
announcement.
Could
our
attorney
please
make
that
announcement
for
us.
H
This
is
aqua
quasi-quasi-judicial,
proceeding
where
the
planning
and
zoning
board
acts
in
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
and
it's
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
is
a
qui
and
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
of
act
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
fact
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
H
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues
if
the
competent,
substantial
or
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant,
by
the
same
token,
that
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances.
Then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant.
H
At
this
time,
I'd
ask
any
of
the
board
members
if
there's
been
any
ex
parte
communications
with
any
of
the
applicants
or
about
any
of
the
applications
tonight
hearing
none.
I
would
then
ask
members
of
the
board
if
there's
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
any
of
the
applications
before
you
tonight.
A
Okay,
that
brings
us
to
item
number
four,
which
is
application:
21,
103
and
2202.
They
both
pertained
to
property
at
42501
u.s,
highway
19
north.
A
I
I
I
It's
currently
residential
low
at
pinellas
county
and
it
is
proposed,
staff
is
recommending
that
it
go
to
residential
low
in
tarpon
springs,
and
then
it's
got
an
r3
zoning
single
family
zoning
and
staff
is
recommending
r-70a
as
the
most
appropriate
single-family
again
single-family.
Zoning
for
this
property.
I
The
area
is
contiguous
on
the
north,
east
and
west
sides,
and
the
property
is
in
the
area
is
served
by
public
infrastructure
and
public
facilities.
Capacity,
so
I'll
show
a
picture
in
a
minute,
but
there
is
a
water
and
sewer
serving
this
property.
The
roads
are
built
and
the
area
is
served
by
the
other
facilities.
I
I
I
I
I
The
property
is,
I
think
I
mentioned
a
property
is
vacant,
so
it's
a
vacant
piece
of
property,
just
a
quick
look
at
the
zoning,
so
you
can
see
the
context
again.
City
zonings
that
are
in
the
color
are
generally
planned.
Development
and
r-70a
counting
zonings
are
in
this
general
area
around
all
19
down.
Here
are
the
single
family
and
the
one
and
two
family.
Then,
of
course,
the
site
is
somewhat
buffered
by
the
trail
against
the
mix
of
uses
on
alt
19,
which
really
on
the
east
side
of
all
19
kind
of
include
offices.
I
I
think
the
the
ark
facility
is
there.
It's
really
a
mix
of
service
uses
and
offices
over
here
getting
to
more
commercial
on
the
other
side,
so
it's
pretty
compatible.
I
I
A
I
have
have
one
real
quickly:
we've,
you
know:
we've
had
a
rash
kind
of
of
other
rezoning
requests
to
get
utilities
where
construction
was
already
going
on.
But
it
looks
to
me
like
this:
one
is,
is
kind
of
preempting
and
and
getting
out
there
ahead
of
things
and
asking
to
get
it
done
before
they've
actually
done
any
permitting
or
construction
is.
Am
I
correct
in
that.
I
I
A
I
Pretty
much
the
same,
our
setbacks
are
slightly
more
restrictive.
Our
lot
size
is
a
little
less
restrictive.
So,
okay.
I
D
D
I
Yeah,
if
you,
if
you
go
to
page
two
of
six
of
the
staff
report,
that'll
give
you
a
rundown.
So
the
county
lot
area
is
six
000
square
feet.
City
is
6500
for
a
minimum
lot
and
then
you've
got
the
widths
and
depths
are
the
same.
Height
is
the
same
front
yard.
We
require
25,
25-foot
setback.
They're
more
lenient
side
yard
looks
like
we
are
more
restrictive
on
all
the
setbacks.
So
that
gives
you
a
rundown
of
how
it
compares.
D
I
Now
the
the
do
the
plans
the
plans
do
match
as
far
as
what
what
their
allowable
uses
and
the
non-residential
floor
area
and
all
those
the
zonings
don't
match
exactly,
but
the
residential
load
does
match.
I
G
I
have
a
couple
questions:
hi,
pat
hi,
it's
good
to
see
you
you,
too,
my
questions
are
going
to
be
in
regards
to
the
requirement
for
annexation
or
why
this
person
had
to
submit
this
owner
who's
here
and
I'll
probably
ask
the
same,
but
I
thought
that
you
might
have
more
insight.
Specifically.
G
The
applicant
submitted
an
email
and
it's
in
there
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
pages
and
if
you
haven't
been
able
to
find
it,
I'd
encourage
the
other
board
members
to
look
at
it
and
in
case
you
can't
I'm
gonna
read
it
and
I
just
think
it's
pertinent
and
then
then
I'll
get
to
my
questions.
Okay,
we'll
unpack
this
pat
comma.
G
G
I
am
amenable
ameniable
to
annexing
in
the
future
once
adjacent
properties,
annex
hopefully
it's
not
too
late
question
mark.
Thank
you.
Miss
hodges
katie
hodges,
okay,
so
I
really
appreciate
the
honesty
and
the
straightforwardness
in
that.
So
here
we
have
someone
who's
here
in
front
of
us.
Who's
had
to
put
together
a
huge
package
and
you're
here
and
the
applicant
is
saying
I
don't
want
to
be
annexed,
but
my
hand
is
being
forced
by
the
county
and
we've
run
into
this
several
times,
and
even
though
that
we
have.
G
G
I
Yes,
so
so
it's
it's
the
city,
that's
requiring
an
application
to
annex
okay,
so
so,
and
that
is
under
chapter
20
of
your
code
and
over
code
of
ordinances.
It's
not
in
the
land
development
code.
That's
in
your
municipal
code.
G
I
I
Will
not
hook
up
water
there
until
this
process
is
it
comes
to
to
a
com,
completion.
J
G
I
K
And
I
want
to,
I
want
to
get
it
verbatim
into
the
record.
I
was
sworn
in
renee
vincent
planting,
his
own
director,
so
under
article
20-23
of
our
code
of
ordinances,
it
says
connections
to
public
water,
reclaimed,
water
and
sewer
systems,
annexation
required
and
under
that
it
says,
lands
abutting,
the
city
limits.
This
does
shall
and
shall
annex
into
the
corporate
limits
of
the
city
and
be
developed
or
improved
in
accordance
with
all
existing
city
requirements
prior
to
either
water
reclaimed,
water
or
sewer
service
being
provided
to
such
lands.
K
I
will
leave
it
to
the
attorney
to
tell
you
whether
or
not
the
city
has
the
ability
to
deny
that
or
debates
to
say.
No,
but
that's
you
know
it
says
you
shall,
if
it
doesn't,
for
whatever
reason
we
will
not
deny
them
water
or
sewer,
we
will
they
will,
they
will
pay
the
surcharge
and
they
will
be
allowed
to
develop.
G
G
K
And
the
short
answer
is
right:
now:
they're
not
required
to
do
anything,
but
if
they're
going
to
develop
the
property
they
will
have
to
annex.
So
I
can
only
assume
that
this
property
owner
has
an
intent
to
develop.
The
property
knows
that
they
have
to
add
that
they
have
to
get
their
water
and
sewer
from
the
city,
so
they
are
annexing
in
accordance
with
the
requirements.
It's
where
they're
approved
to
say,
I'd
really
prefer
to
stay
in
the
county
and
just
pay
the
up
charge.
K
I
And
just
to
add
to
that
remember
by
statute,
there
are
voluntary
and
involuntary
annexations
cities
and
do
involuntary
annexations,
I'm
sure
you've
heard
of
cities
proposing
to
end
something
so
and
they
notify
all
the
people
that
live
there.
The
city
has
has
chosen
not
to
do
that,
so
that,
when
you
say
all
at
one
time
a
city
can't
do
that
by
the
statute,
but
yeah.
H
G
Know
I
think
this
is
a
great
time
to
discuss
this.
Thank
you
so
so
it
strikes
me
as
odd
that
there's
not
a
more
organized
process
for
this
work.
I
like
to
keep
things
clean
straight
forward
and
organized,
and
we
just
it,
struck
me
as
odd
on
this
one
and
and
there
wasn't
a
question
there.
I
just
wanted
to
get
out
that
and
council
on.
Thank
you
for
trying
to
do
that,
but
unfortunately
there
is
no
other
time
to
work
through
some
of
these
thought
processes.
G
I
B
I
B
B
B
B
A
M
D
A
And
at
this
time,
if
building
permits
been
applied
for
or
anything
to
to
build
the
house
on
on
the
property,
we're
talking
about
okay,.
A
A
I
We
yeah
there's
no
zoom.
Oh.
A
A
So
then,
no
applicant
rebuttal
comments,
so
that
brings
it
back
to
the
board
for
consideration.
Can
we
have
a
motion
in
second
and
then
we
can
discuss?
I
make
a
motion.
E
A
C
Just
just
a
point,
you
know,
even
though
these
rules
might
be
unfortunate.
C
What
we
don't
want
to
have
is
a
situation
similar
to
what
we've
had
in
the
past,
the
young
lady's
going
to
build
her
home
there,
and
we
don't
want
you
to
be
caught
up
in
a
situation
where
you're,
like
our
chairman,
says
you
build
half
the
house
and
then
you
want
to
come
into
the
city
for
some
reason,
we
can
avoid
all
that
now
bring
in
welcome
you
as
a
citizen
of
tarpon
springs
and
look
forward
to
you
living
here
for
a
long
time.
So
that's
my
two
bits.
C
A
G
Comments
since
I
asked
so
many
questions,
the
it's
beautiful
parcel
and
they're
gonna
build
a
beautiful
place,
but
when
I
read
the
email
that
the
applicant
felt
that
they
would
prefer
not
to
be,
I
just
wanted
to
flesh
that
out
and-
and
that
was
done.
I
really
appreciate
pat
and
rene
clarifying
that
we're
required
to
ask
because
we're
servicing.
L
G
They're
required
to
apply,
but
the
idea
that
we
just
have
to
automatically
say
yes
or
just
do
it
is
not
there
is
that
they
can
not
be
part
of
it,
and
we
can
say
no
that
this
idea
that
it
must
be
that's
why
we
have
a
board
and
we
get
to
vote,
and
so
I
was
trying
to
just
move
it
along
a
little
bit
farther
and
for
myself
understood
what
the
consequences
are
after
that
decision.
What
are
they.
D
D
D
I
know
we
always
talk
about.
We
have
the
capacity,
but
you
know
for
the
record.
You
know
I
just
want
to
know:
that's
always
a
concern
when
we're
going
through
this
annexation
process,
because
where
does
it
stop
you
literally,
you
literally
can
annex
one
right
after
another,
all
the
way
to
palm
harbor.
D
Okay,
because
they're
in
they're
unincorporated,
so
you
literally
could
go
right
down
the
road
all
the
way
to
dunedin.
Well,
it
could
be,
and
and
and
not
that
that
would
ever
happen.
But
you
understand
you
know
my
concern
with
regard
to
our
our
ability.
Is
this
community
to
provide
services
utilities
to
our
to
our
population,
but
that's
for
a
different
day.
Different
discussion.
A
G
A
A
M
M
M
This
is
looking
at
the
existing
zoning
map.
Again,
the
property
is
outlined
in
red
here
on
the
screen.
The
immediate
area
is
all
within
the
r-70a
single-family
residential
zoning
district.
However,
there
is
a
multi-family
zoning
district
along
ring
street.
Obviously,
city
hall
is
in
the
public,
semi-public
zoning
district
and
there
are
a
few
parcels
along
cypress
street
just
to
the
south
that
have
been
recently
rezoned
within
the
past
couple
of
years
to
the
r-60
zoning
district,
which
is
what
is
proposed
by
the
applicant.
M
This
property
was
originally
plotted
back
in
1911..
This
property
was
originally
two
lots
of
record
lots,
21
and
22..
The
applicant
is
requesting
the
rezoning
for
the
purpose
of
splitting
the
lot
into
two
lots
into
the
historic
lot
configuration
they
also
intend
to
build
another
single-family
residence
on
the
new
lot.
M
There
is
an
existing
residence
on
the
property
outlined
here
in
blue.
That
will
remain
with
the
new
proposed
lot
line
again
following
the
historic
plot
line,
it
would
meet
the
minimum
setbacks
of
the
r60
zoning
district.
There
was
a
an
old
garage
or
workshop
on
the
property.
However,
that
has
been
demolished
and
is
no
longer
there.
M
So
there's
no
setback
issues
with
that
for
the
property
to
be
split
if
it
was
to
be
rezoned
and
again
it's
in
the
ru
land
use
category
and
that
would
permit
two
dwelling
units
on
the
property
so
what's
proposed
would
meet
the
density
allowances
with
respect
to
your
rezoning
criteria,
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
M
C
I
have
a
question
is:
is
this
an
historic
district.
C
M
The
intent
is
to
split
the
property
in
order
to
split
the
property.
That's
why
they're
requesting
the
rezoning,
the
r6d
zoning
district
has
lot
standards
that
match
the
historic
plot
in
terms
of
width
of
the
lot,
the
size
of
the
lots,
as
well
as
the
setbacks
are
consistent
with
the
r60
zoning
district.
So
with
the
rezoning
they
have
the
ability
to
split
the
property
into
two
conforming
lots
of
record
with
today's
code.
A
M
Yeah
and
for
further
clarity
too
in
the
r-60
zoning
district,
even
though
it's
a
one
and
two
family
zoning
district
for
a
single-family
home,
there's
certain
lot
size
standards
to
do
a
duplex,
there's
different
lot
standards.
So
this
property
could
either
be
one
duplex
on
the
entire
property
or
two
single-family
homes
on
two
individual
lots.
D
A
A
Does
any
members
of
the
board
have
questions
for
the
applicant.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
here
to
comment
on
this
item.
A
Seeing
none
do
we
have
any
communication
by
email
or
letters
we.
A
All
right,
I
guess
that
that
brings
us
down
to
needing
a
motion
in
a
second
so
that
the
board
can
discuss.
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Revisit
item
number
four
I
need
motion
and
second
on
21-103
number
four
was
deferred.
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M
Allie
keane
senior
planner,
as
all
of
you
are
aware,
you
did
have
a
similar
application
before
you
back
in
may
in
an
effort
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised
at
that
meeting
by
both
planning
and
zoning
board
members
as
well
as
members
of
the
public.
The
applicant
did
choose
to
withdraw
that
original
request
and
submit
the
new
request
that
you'll
have
here
tonight
for
consideration.
M
They've
also
chosen
to
work
with
a
different
hotel,
specifically
the
cambria
brand
of
the
choice.
Hotels.
This
brand
has
some
more
design
flexibility
than
their
previous
one
they're
working
with.
M
As
a
reminder,
the
property
is
located
off
of
roosevelt
boulevard
and
hill
street.
There
are
three
parcels
on
the
east
side
of
roosevelt
boulevard
that
are
the
hotel
development
site.
There's
also
an
out
parcel,
that's
a
part
of
this
property
that
is
not
proposed
for
any
sort
of
development
at
this
time,
but
it
is
used
in
consideration
of
the
density.
M
M
Again,
the
applicants
are
here
today
requesting
conditional
use
approval
to
allow
a
hotel
within
the
t4a
transect.
This
property
is
approximately
1.91
acres
in
size,
and
that
does
include
again
the
out
parcel
to
the
west.
The
current
land
use
is
crd,
which
is
the
community
redevelopment
district.
Specifically
it's
within
the
sponge,
docs
character
district
and
again
it's
between
both
the
t5c
and
t4a
transect
zones.
M
M
This
is
a
look
at
the
conceptual
site
plan,
probably
the
biggest
difference
between
the
previous
application
and
today's
application
is.
They
are
no
longer
requesting
the
vacation
of
hill
street.
Instead,
they
have
moved
the
hotel
building
within
the
center
parcel
and
fronting
along
roosevelt
boulevard,
they're,
proposing
to
use
the
parcel
to
the
north
and
to
the
south
as
surface
parking
for
the
hotel
use,
and
I
shouldn't
state
that
obviously
I've
turned
this
here,
so
it
fits
better
on
the
screen
and
north
is
pointing
to
the
left.
M
The
has
also
provided
two
different
design
options:
we've
included
both
of
those
options
in
the
presentation
for
you
to
review
and
for
consideration.
This
is
option
one,
and
I
should
also
mention
that
both
design
options
do
not
change
the
overall
building,
layout
or
site
layout
or
landscaping
plans
that
were
provided
with
you
in
your
packet.
M
It
merely
just
changes
the
facade
treatments
in
this
particular
design
element
they're,
looking
at
using
brick,
rusticated
concrete
block,
as
well
as
some
stucco
and
masonry
they're
proposing
a
barrel
tile
roof
some
decorative
railings
for
the
balconies
and
a
portico
that
provides
the
main
entrance
from
roosevelt
boulevard.
This
top
picture
here
is
the
west
elevation
along
roosevelt
boulevard.
The
elevation
below
is
the
east
elevation
or
the
rear
of
the
building.
M
M
This
is
design
option
two
that
was
provided
for
review.
The
main
difference
is,
instead
of
using
brick
on
the
building
they're,
proposing
to
use
elements
of
wood,
they're,
also
proposing
a
different,
decorative
railing
style,
and
then
it's
still
a
barrel.
Towel
roof.
It's
a
little
hard
to
see
on
this
screen
here,
but
it's
a
white
or
cream
in
color,
rather
than
the
terracotta
or
orange
color
they're,
also
still
proposing
the
rusticated
concrete
block
for
this
pedestrian
wall
along
the
front
of
the
building,
and
this
is
looking
at
the
roosevelt
boulevard
frontage.
M
As
a
reminder,
all
conditional
use
reviews
have
a
set
of
seven
review
criteria.
Those
are
listed
here
on
the
screen,
similar
to
what
we
did
in
the
last
application.
Is
this
presentation,
as
well
as
your
staff
report,
were
formatted
on
a
basic
of
topic
areas?
All
those
topic
areas
are
for
the
board
to
consider
when
looking
at
these
criteria
and
making
your
recommendation
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
M
M
The
intent
of
that
district
was
to
continue
to
support
the
working
waterfront
and
the
tourist
trade.
There
are
a
series
of
different
objectives
within
that
character:
district,
one
of
which
states
to
provide
tourist
accommodations
within
walking
distance
to
tourist
destinations
in
the
sponge
docks
the
sponge
docks
character,
district
further
incentivizes
hotel
development
by
allowing
an
increased
height
allowance
of
four
to
six
stories
increased
far
of
2.0,
and
it
also
allows
up
to
60
lodging
units
per
acre.
M
When
looking
at
height,
the
applicants
again
are
proposing
a
five-story
structure,
it's
four
habitable
stories
above
one
story
of
parking
as
far
as
measurements
of
height
they're,
proposing
to
the
top
of
the
roof
deck
54
feet
to
the
top
of
the
parapet
or
the
top
of
the
eave
is
58
feet.
When
looking
at
the
smart
coat
allowances
for
height,
they
provide
different
clearance
allowances
for
each
floor.
M
If
the
applicant
were
to
take
full
advantage
of
the
smart
code
allowance,
they
could
have
for
five-story
building
up
to
81
feet
in
height
when
looking
at
other
conventional
zoning
districts
within
the
land
development
code.
For
comparison,
the
wd-1
district,
which
is
the
former
zoning
district.
This
property
was
a
part
of
prior
to
the
special
area
plan
going
into
place.
It
does
allow
hotels
by
right
and
it
does
allow
a
maximum
of
50
feet
in
height
the
hb
district,
which
is
the
highway
business
district,
is
primarily
found
along
the
us-19
corridor.
M
M
Next
is
the
ground
elevation
change.
There
is
a
significant
topography
change
for
this
property
when
going
from
the
east
to
the
west.
The
red
lines
on
this
map
indicate
the
higher
elevations.
The
yellows
are
the
lower
elevation
from
the
basically
the
the
east
side
of
the
site
to
the
west
side.
There's
approximately
seven
foot
elevation
change
from
the
top
of
hope
street
down
to
roosevelt
boulevard.
There's
approximately
11
12
foot,
elevation
change.
M
And
then
this
is
looking
south
again
around
roosevelt
boulevard,
just
calling
out
some
different
development
in
the
area.
This
is
the
former
greek
hall,
which
is
now
a
retail
establishment.
The
site
is
right
here.
The
turtle
cove
marina,
is
just
to
the
southwest
and
there's
some
three-story
town
homes
further
south
off
of
hope
street,
and
then
this
is
looking
north
towards
dodecanese
boulevard
and
towards
the
sponge
docks.
M
Just
to
provide
some
comparisons
with
existing
development
within
the
city,
we
looked
at
some
buildings
that
are
within
the
immediate
area
as
well
as
outside
of
the
immediate
area.
The
turtle
cove
marina,
is
approximately
45
to
50
feet
in
height,
and
that
again
is
to
the
southwest
of
the
site.
The
former
greek
hall,
when
measured
from
the
subject
site,
is
approximately
35
feet
in
height
and
the
tallest
structure
within
the
city.
Limits
is
tarpon
tower
and
that
is
approximately
70
feet
in
height,
and
this
bottom
picture
is
depicting
design
option
two.
M
Next,
we're
looking
at
the
smart
code
if
the
conditional
use
is
approved.
The
next
step
in
the
process
is
to
apply
for
site
plan
approval.
At
that
time,
staff
will
verify
that
all
development
regulations
and
requirements
of
the
smart
code
have
been
met
during
the
review.
This
conditional
use
application.
We
did
a
preliminary
overlook
of
the
smart
code
and
did
not
identify
any
sort
of
significant
inconsistencies
with
the
code.
M
Overall,
the
smart
code
looks
to
you
know,
enhance
the
pedestrian
environment
by
pushing
buildings
closer
to
the
street,
having
interaction
between
buildings
in
the
public
spaces,
and
they
are
doing
that
by
situating
the
building
along
the
roosevelt
frontage.
The
building
orientation
is
consistent
with
the
smart
code
requirements.
M
Additionally,
the
pedestrian
access
and
main
entrance
to
the
building
is
from
roosevelt
boulevard,
which
is
the
primary
frontage
for
the
property.
Other
considerations
that
will
be
verified
during
site
plan
process
are
parking
lot.
Screening
specifically
making
sure
landscaping.
Indoor
street
wall
is
provided
for
any
open
parking
areas
and
as
well
as
the
parking
location
for
the
parking
underneath
the
building.
M
The
first
is
goal
one
protect
the
cultural
heritage,
historic
resources,
tourist
economy
and
environmental
setting
of
tarpon
springs,
objective
1.2,
encourage
redevelopment
and
renewal
of
the
city's
designated
cra
and
promote
the
sponge
docs
tourist
area
policy.
3.4.2
prohibit
development
proposals
which
promote
the
proliferation
of
urban
sprawl.
Urban
sprawl
shall
be
contained
through
the
use
of
infill
development
of
vacant
properties,
compact
growth,
contiguous
to
the
existing
developed
area
and
the
provision
of
public
services
and
facilities
in
a
cost-effective
manner,
which
maximizes
the
use
of
existing
facilities
that
are
in
place.
And,
lastly,
goal
7.
M
As
you
know,
this
property
is
located
within
the
greektown
area.
This
is
a
nationally
recognized
historic
area.
It
recognizes
the
cultural
history,
but
does
not
necessarily
establish
any
specific
design
requirements
within
greektown,
there's,
really
a
variety
of
building
types
and
uses
which
include
residential,
commercial
and
marine
related
industrial
with
the
revised
design
options.
With
this
application,
the
applicant
proposed
to
incorporate
some
of
the
residential
and
non-residential
design
elements
that
were
seen
throughout
greek
town
and
that
were
also
specifically
called
out
within
the
historic
registration
form.
M
M
M
When
looking
at
context
and
compatibility,
the
surrounding
surrounding
the
site
to
the
north
and
to
the
west
is
primarily
surface
parking,
the
turtle
cove
marina
again,
is
to
the
southwest
sponge
docks,
obviously
to
the
north
of
the
site.
There
are
three
existing
single-family
structures
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
property.
M
M
With
the
respect
of
being
walkable
to
the
sponge
docs,
this
property
is
also
within
close
proximity
to
the
heart
of
downtown,
it's
less
than
one
mile
away
to
both
downtown
and
the
pinellas
trail.
As
part
of
this
application,
the
applicants
did
provide
a
preliminary
traffic
assessment
based
off
of
the
ite
manual
for
trip
generation.
M
It
states
that
this
proposed
use
would
generate
daily
trips
of
863.
The
am
peak
hour,
trips
would
be
50
and
the
pm
peak
hour
trips
would
be
64..
It
is
important
to
note
that
the
proximity
to
the
tourist
destinations
will
likely
reduce
the
total
number
of
vehicular
trips.
However,
staff
has
requested
that
a
traffic
study
and
transportation
management
plan
be
submitted
with
a
site
plan.
If
this
conditional
use
application
is
approved
just
to
mitigate
any
sort
of
potential
impacts,.
M
And
lastly,
karen
lemmons,
our
economic
development
manager
provided
some
facts
and
figures.
As
far
as
the
economic
impact
of
this
proposed
project,
specifically
within
the
2016
economic
impact
study,
it
stated
that
the
city
attracts
1.1
million
visitors
annually
and
of
those
86
percent
are
only
day
visitors.
M
So
full
circle
back
to
your
conditional
use
criteria
with
respect
to
the
land
development
code
again
upon
approval
to
conditional
use,
the
applicant
will
submit
the
site
for
site
plan
approval.
We
did
do
a
preliminary
review
and
did
not
identify
any
sort
of
conflicting
standards
within
the
code.
Number
two.
The
site
is
within
a
mixed-use
area
consisting
of
retail
establishments,
restaurants,
marine
related
industrial
uses
and
residential
uses.
M
The
area
is
within
the
special
area
plan,
specifically
the
sponge
docs
character
district,
which
encourages
the
development
of
lodging
facilities
and
to
accommodate
tourists.
The
use
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
More
specifically,
with
a
special
area
plan,
the
site
is
not
proposed
on
an
environmentally
sensitive
site.
It
is
located
within
the
nationally
recognized
greek
town,
historic
area.
M
The
site
is
generally
surrounded
by
commercial
uses
and
parking.
However,
there
are
three
single
family
residences
to
the
east
of
the
site,
one
of
which
is
homesteaded.
Although
the
site
is
mostly
surrounded
by
non-residential
uses,
there
may
be
some
impact
to
those
single-family
residences
number
six.
There
are
existing
facilities
within
the
area
to
serve
the
property,
and
there
is
capacity.
M
With
respect
to
the
staff
recommendation
for
resolution
2022-23,
we
do
recognize
again
the
significance
and
impact
of
this
potential
project
for
the
sponge
docs.
So
in
lieu
of
our
formal
recommendation,
we
provided
you
a
list
of
findings
and
information
to
help
you
with
your
consideration
of
the
criteria
and
provide
you
information
for
your
recommendation.
The
board
of
commissioners,
if
you
do
choose
to
recommend
approval
staff,
does
have
four
recommended
conditions
listed
here.
The
first
is
that
they
provide
an
evacuation
plan
in
the
event
of
a
hurricane.
M
The
second
is
that
the
future
development
of
the
out
parcel
to
the
west
would
account
for
hotel
density.
The
third
is
provide
a
traffic
study
and
transportation
management
plan
with
site
plan
and
the
last
the
site
plan
must
be
approved
within
one
year
of
the
conditional
use
approval
with
that
I'll
turn.
It
back
to
the
board
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
One
question
related
to
the
height
and
it
may
have
to
be
for
the
applicant
when
when
they
get
up
but
the
the
54
and
58
foot
dimensions,
what's
the
starting
point
for
that,
is
that
mean
flood
elevation?
Is
it
the
ground
at
the
lowest
part
of
the
site?
Is
it
the
ground
at
the
highest
part
of
the
site.
A
M
A
Yeah,
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
is
the
the
overall
effect
of
the
profile
of
the
building
is
a
lot
different.
If,
if
the
starting
point
is
at
the
lower
side
of
the
site
than
it
is
eight
feet
or
more
up
at
the
other
side
of
the
site,
that
was
so
yeah
I'll
bring
that
one
back
when
they're
up
any
other
questions
of
staff.
M
The
it
is
part
of
the
application,
in
terms
of
it's
part,
of
the
site,
they're
not
proposing
any
sort
of
development
on
the
property
trying
to
get
to
the.
M
M
E
E
M
Not
for
this
particular
project
but,
like
I
said
this
is
this-
is
typical,
typical
practice
of
how
we
calculate
for
a
site.
This
is
all
under
going
to
be
under
their
ownership.
It's
all
one
site,
they're
proposing
to
physically
develop
this
portion
of
the
site,
but
this
can
be
calculated
towards
the
density.
This
does
not
prevent
them
from
doing
anything
on
this
parcel
in
the
future,
but
they
can't
double
count
any
sort
of
hotel
density.
I.
E
A
M
Because
hotel
density
is
different,
so
you've
got
hotel
density.
You've
got
residential
density,
you
have
far,
which
is
your
non-residential
density.
This
basically
takes
away
hotel
density,
so
say
in
the
future
and
and
some
far
yes,
because
you
have
a
total,
far
2.0
on
the
entire
site.
So
those
you
have
to
look
at
it
as
a
whole,
so
it
limits
what
could
be
here
in
the
future
but
doesn't
necessarily
eliminate
any
sort
of
development.
G
M
M
K
So
so
we
haven't
reverse
engineered
the
project
at
this
point
to
say
what
could
be
left
over
on
this
piece
of
land.
They
could
opt
to
put
parking
on
it.
Just
like
they're
doing
on
the
other
parcel,
I
will
tell
you
for
your
consideration.
You
have
the
ability.
This
is
a
conditional
use
and
you're
looking
at
all
of
this,
even
though
the
hotel
is
proposed
on
not
all
the
property,
but
you
can
condition
this
with
respect
to
what
happens
on
the
entirety
of
this
property.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
K
G
That,
in
my
notes,
already
is
that
that
we
could
condition,
but-
and-
and
I
want
to
just
take
this
one
step
farther
20
years
from
now-
maybe
that
lot
just
stayed
grass
or
turned
into
a
retention
pond
20
years
from
now.
That
lot
is
cut
off
and
sold
to
someone
else
what
mechanism
is
put
in
place
so
that
someone
else
doesn't
build
another
four-story
hotel
there,
because
that
stuff
happens.
It.
G
K
Then
further,
you
know
a
restrictive
covenant
on
the
property
that
gets
recorded
so
that
in
the
future,
hopefully
someone
does
a
title
search
on
a
property
that
it
pops
up
in
a
title,
search
if
someone
if
it
tries
to
get
sold
off
or
anything
like
that.
So
at
least
there's
a
recorded
mechanism
in
the
public
records
forever.
C
Proposals
the
comprehensive
plan
discusses
trips
in
and
out
of
any
location,
correct.
M
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
it
specifically
calls
out
if
it's
with
a
deficient
roadway,
which
alt
19
is
the
one
that's
called
out
here,
and
it
is
not
classified
as
deficient
at
this
time.
However,
in
an
abundance
of
caution
and
knowing
the
concerns
that
we
have
that's,
why
staff's
recommended
that
they
do
a
traffic
study
and
transportation
management
plan
with
the
site
plan,
if
this
conditional
use
is
approved
just
to
cover
those
bases,
call
out
any
potential
impacts
that
might
be.
C
So
let
me
let
me
I'll
respond
to
that,
and
let
me
just
touch
on
something
here
so
again
with
the
51
trips
that
there
has
to
be
mitigation.
You've
got
mike
the
one
of
the
obvious
concerns
there.
We've
had
these
conversations
before
roosevelt
is
one
of
the
exit
streets,
which
floods
pretty
much
daily
and
is
is
not
a
it's
a
bumpy
little
road
right.
C
M
M
Right
now,
the
conditional
use
is
just
specifically
the
use,
but,
like
I
said
that,
you'll
see
it
again
at
the
site
plan
process.
Okay,.
C
C
M
C
C
Okay,
all
right,
if
we
approve
a
hotel,
is
it
is
it
limited
to
just
the
definition
of
a
hotel.
K
The
short
answer
is
no,
you
have
a
residential
density
of
not
exceeding
15
units
to
the
acre,
that's
what's
allowed
by
right
as
residential,
so
they
would
have
to
find
a
way
to
dramatically.
N
K
Units
or
something
like
that,
you
know
and
again
I
would
recommend
that
you
know
if
you
want
to
make
that
even
more
I
mean
I'm
telling
you
right.
K
C
Changes
not
part
of
our
regulations,
the
character
of
what
we're
trying
to
attract
into
tarpon
springs
right.
We're
trying
to
attract
tourists,
we're
not
trying
to
attract
people
that
would
stay
in
a
unit
for
a
month
or
longer,
as
yeah.
K
C
But
again
we're
looking.
This
whole
thing
is
being
presented
to
us
as
a
hotel,
sure,
cambria
sure.
Last
time
it
was
hilton,
but
it's
a
hotel.
Okay
just
do
just
for
our
own.
For
our
own
point
of
reference,
I
I
know
this
is
a
new
application,
but
do
we
have
a
copy
of
the
previous
conditions
that
we
that
were
in
our
in
our
last.
M
I
can
pull
those
up
if
you
you'd,
like
I,
don't
have
them
right
in
front
of
me.
I
can
pull
them
up
if
you
need
to.
E
I
can
I
add
to
john
before
you
pull
them
up.
Can
I
want
to
add
the
part
two
to
your
question
with
regards
to
your
question:
pull
your
mic
down,
pull
your
mic
down
with
regards
to
the
stay.
Is
there
an
ordinance
that
dictates
how
long
a
hotel
applicant
can
stay?
Okay,
so.
E
E
E
Ask
you,
I
have
a
question
with
regards
to
the
conditional
use
of
recommendation
number
six.
Okay,
as
I
understood
you
to
say
it's
kind
of
limited.
In
my
opinion,
from
what
I
heard
to
strap
traffic
study
and
traffic
management
plan,
I've
got
concerns
about
tarpon
springs,
drainage
impacts
as
well
as
tarpon
springs,
roadway
impacts
as
a
result
is
there?
E
M
M
So
that
typically
is
reviewed
and
addressed
during
the
site
plan
approval
process.
We
have
a
stormwater
manual
when
they
submit
the
application
to
us.
They
have
to
basically
demonstrate
that
they
meet
all
the.
Thank
you
all
the
requirements
of
our
stormwater
manual,
and
we
do
have
a
consultant
that
reviews
that,
at
that
time,
what
they
are
proposing
to
use
at
this
time
are
the
use
of
underground
vaults,
but
again
that
goes
through
a
review
process,
make
sure
that
they
function
properly
and
meet
the
the
standards
of
the
city.
M
So
that
is
something
that
is
looked
at
in
detail
and
also,
as
mentioned
in
that
condition,
is
if,
during
that
in-depth
review,
any
sort
of
in
you
know,
improvements
or
extensions
of
our
existing
services
are
needed.
It's
at
the
responsibility
of
the
applicant
to
serve
the
project.
M
K
That
that
will
get
looked
at
with
by
our
engineer
of
record
for
for
storm
water
review,
but
I
mean
again,
you
know
this
is
a
conditional
use,
and
so,
if
there's
something
above
and
beyond
or
that
you
want
to,
you
know,
put
as
a
condition
you
you
can.
I
do
want
to.
I
want
to
put
this
in
the
record,
because,
regarding
lodging
so
the
definition
of
lodging
in
the
smart
code,
which
is
what
is
applicable
here,
it
says
premises
available
for
daily
and
weekly
renting
of
bedrooms.
K
M
So,
with
your
recommendation
last
for
the
previous
application,
there
were
three
staff
recommend
or
conditions
that
were
included.
Those
were
one
an
evacuation
plan
in
the
event
of
a
hurricane
shall
be
provided
at
the
time
of
site
plan
approval.
M
Two
approval
of
the
conditional
use
was
contingent
on
the
partial
vacation
of
hill
street
and
three
that
a
site
plan
must
be
approved
within
one
year
of
conditional
use
approval
the
board
added
four
conditions.
The
first
was
to
allow
a
four-story
maximum
two,
no
restaurant
or
bar
on
site.
Three.
The
vacation
of
right-of-way
of
hill
street
must
be
addressed
prior
to
site
plan
being
brought
forward
and
four
the
hotel
must
be
designed
so
that
the
cultural
heritage
of
the
sponge
spongebox
is
preserved.
C
M
M
So
you
can
have
drive
access
through
the
alley
here
we
go
so
the
alley
you're
talking
about
is
this:
it's
about
10
foot,
wide
unimproved.
G
M
Here
and
it
cuts
through
the
site
here
you
can
have
drive
access
through
here.
One
thing
that
we've
noted
and
would
be
picked
up
in
the
site
plan:
approval
is,
you
can't
have
parking
within
it,
so
they
might
lose
one
space
there,
but
you
can
have
cross
access
so.
M
D
Question
for
you,
this
falls
within
the
greektown
historic
area,
but
there
are
no.
At
this
point.
There
have
been
no
specific
design
criteria
that
have
been
adopted.
Correct.
Do
you
know
if
they're
working
on
design
criteria.
K
Evaluate
and
and
potentially
bring
forward
design
criteria
for
the
greektown
area.
It's
honestly
not
on
the
radar
to
be
looked
at,
probably
until
it
after
we
get
this.
The
update
of
the
special
of
the
comprehensive
plan
done
there's
just
we
have
a
workload
you
know
issue,
so
the
current
plan
would
be
you
know
to
dive
into
that
sometime.
You
know
probably
late
spring
early
summer
of
next
year,
unless
I
get
directed
by
the
board
of
commissioners
to
do
it
sooner.
K
D
A
All
right,
seeing
none,
would
the
applicant
like
to
make
a
presentation.
F
I
had
prepared
a
powerpoint,
but
candidly
it
doesn't
show
any
more
information
than
what
the
very
thorough
staff
report
did.
So
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
need
to
flip
through
those
slides.
I
think
I
did
want
to
talk
through
just
a
few
things
and
one
this
is
a
new
request
for
conditional
use.
After
the
last
board
meeting
the
applicant
had
every
right
to
move
that
application
forward
and
even
accept
the
conditions
that
you
provided,
but
in
working
with
staff
and
because
of
the
request
of
this
board.
F
That
is
one
when
you
look
at
a
site
plan,
there's
generally
for
a
hotel
which,
as
you've
seen
over
and
over
again
in
your
comprehensive
plan
and
in
the
special
area
plan,
is
a
preferred
and
desired
use
in
the
sponge
docs
area,
a
preferred
and
desired
use
in
the
sponge
docs
area
to
make
a
financially
viable
hotel.
It's
generally
a
hundred
rooms
for
to
fit
100
rooms.
There
has
to
be
a
certain
accommodation.
F
The
applicant
sought
out
an
alternative
brand
that
eliminated
kitchenettes
and
so
to
allow
these
rooms
to
be
smaller
to
fit
these
now
108
rooms,
but
in
final
design.
That
gets
figured
out
at
that
point.
On
the
smallest,
this
portion
of
the
property
that
had
the
least
impact
to
the
neighbors
and
to
the
general
public
by
not
requesting
a
vacation
of
hill
street,
not
requesting
any
impact
to
the
existing
alleys.
F
So
this
was
all
done
in
in
relation
to
the
last
recommendation
of
approval.
The
applicant
then
also
met
with
the
sponge
docs
merchants
association.
They
did
meet
with
the
greek
town,
historic
society
and
talked
about
what
types
of
designs
could
fit
in
here.
I
know
you
all
received
a
letter
with
a
number
of
photos
of
various
buildings.
Around
tarpon
springs.
F
So,
as
you
saw
on
the
map,
there
are
several
parcels
that
are
included
in
this
request:
the
county-wide
rules
and
the
city
code
and
the
city
comprehensive
plan
allow
what's
called
density
averaging,
and
that
was
done
on
the
last
application.
It's
done
on
this
application
and
it
goes
and
it
takes
what
is
the
overall
acreage
to
calculate
density
and
intensity.
F
F
The
largest
of
the
three
parcels
and
the
reason
we're
here
is
the
one
that
requires
the
conditional
use
by
squeezing
a
buy
right
building,
which
is
permitted
at
four
to
six
stories.
Otherwise,
in
the
special
area
plan,
the
building
could
end
up
even
taller
and
that's
not
what
the
community
desires.
That's,
not
what
the
applicant
desires
just
to
be
responsive
to
a
few
specifics.
F
The
staff
went
through
and
showed
how
five
four
to
six
stories
in
height
in
the
special
area
plan
based
on
floor
to
ceiling
heights
and
how
that's
calculated
could
end
up
to
be
80
feet
maximum,
but
this
proposal
is
for
58
feet
maximum
and
it
is
from
grade
not
from
design
flood
elevation
or
base
foot
elevation
and
the
grade,
as
you
saw,
has
an
11
or
12
foot
difference
between
the
east
and
the
west,
and
this
is
measured
from
about
grade
level
of
six
foot
because
that's
the
average
between
where
the
building
actually
sits.
F
So
it
goes
from
six
foot
to
fifty
eight
feet.
It's
interesting
that
the
train,
the
special
area
plan
measures
by
stories
only
not
by
height
and
so
even
reducing
this
one
story.
Doesn't
mandate
a
reduction
in
height
necessarily,
this
is
all
something
to
be
considered
by
the
commission
and
by
this
board
during
the
site
plan
approval
and
yes,
the
applicant
has
not
gone
out
to
solicit
support.
F
F
The
city
approved
a
comprehensive
plan,
a
land
development
code
and
a
special
area
plan
that
says,
tourism
is
important
to
tarpon
springs
and
tourism
is
important
to
the
sponge
stocks,
and
that
is
why
we're
here
today
the
applicant
is
here
and
he
can
speak
about
the
brands
and
and
how
this
brand
gives
the
flexibility
and
some
of
the
design
choices,
as
is
the
architect,
but
with
that
I
can
see
we
have
antsypants,
and
so
we're
sure
that
we
want
to
ask
a
lot
of
questions
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
those.
So.
D
First
of
all,
you
know
you
sound
like
a
threat
where
you
say
we
could
build
80
feet.
Okay,.
D
Presentation
right,
I
took
it
as
a
threat
that
we
could.
We
could
build
the
80
feet
if
we
want
to,
and-
and
you
know
what
we
do
need
a
hotel-
we
do
need
a
hotel.
I
think
the
support
is
the
fact
that
we
need
a
hotel.
Okay.
I
don't,
I
think,
that's
you
know.
I
think
everybody
supports
that.
That's
why
150
signatures
on
on
the
petition,
but
it's
important
and
and
I've
people
have
approached
me-
who've
signed
that
petition,
but
they
want
to
make
sure
that
that
it
is
compl.
D
D
There
are
some
modern
buildings
down
at
the
sponge
docks,
but
that
was
before
and
that-
and
that
goes
back
over
20
years
ago.
You
know
the
idea
now
is
to
preserve
the
heritage.
That's
why
there's
a
board
to
preserve
the
heritage?
That's
why
there's
a
designation
to
preserve
the
heritage
in
in
that
area,
so
this
design
criteria
needs
to
be
consistent
with
that,
whether
we
have
design
design
requirements
in
place
or
not
that's
still
important
and
you're
right.
D
Somebody
did
submit
a
a
a
a
letter
with
some
photographs
and,
ironically,
almost
all
the
photographs,
if
not
all
the
photographs
are
the
sponge
dock
area
of
the
buildings
they're,
not
scattered
through
town.
So
so
when
we,
when
I
look
at
at
some
of
the
design
criteria
that
that
that
was
submitted
by
the
applicant
to
take
in
consideration
when
they
design
designed
that
hotel.
D
Quite
frankly,
it's
not
consistent
with
with
some
with
the
overall
character
of
that.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
they
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
we
used
where
you
indicated
that
they
were
mindful
of
our
recommendations
previously
and
I
know
you've
reached
out
to
other
other
hotel
chains.
D
But
you
know,
I
think
our
recommendation
before
you
know
this
board
has
a
right
to
do.
You
know
to
vote
how
they
want
to
vote,
but
was
was
first
a
four-story
max,
not
a
five-story
max,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
has
any
questions
or
comments
with
that.
What
I
just
said.
C
F
C
Whole
I
mean
I
can
count
about
15
relatives
of
mine
that
are
on
here
that
don't
I
promise
you.
I
want
a
hotel
that
fits
and
it's
compatible
with
our
area.
So
you
know,
if
somebody's
going
to
put
a
petition
and
just
say
you
know
you
like
ice
cream
everybody's
going
to
sign
it.
C
But
it's
you
know
it's
pretty
broad.
So
I
I
just.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
people
in
the
audience
know
that
the
petition
merely
says
that
a
hotel,
it
doesn't
say
the
size
of
the
hotel,
didn't
say
what
it's
going
to
look
like
doesn't
say
anything
just
says:
do
you
want
a
hotel?
I
would
sign
it
yeah
sure,
sign
it.
But
again
that's
a
little
misleading.
Well,.
F
C
Approval
and
there
are
no
design
criteria,
but
with
conditions.
Okay
and
there's
no
conditions
on
this
petition.
I
understand
there
was
a
meeting
who
who
asked
for
that
meeting
at
the
restaurant
at
the
sponge
docs.
F
I'll,
let
mr
fridge
speak
about
the
the
meetings
he's
had
because
he
hosted
a
meeting
a
couple
different
places.
O
The
merchant
society,
or
whatever
you
call
it,
initiated
that
meeting
and
asked
us
to
meet
with
with
several
merchant.
We
didn't
solicit
anybody:
okay,
okay,
thank
you.
A
Yes,
with
the
the
change
in
the
hotel
chain,
can
you
can
you
fill
us
in
a
little
bit
more.
O
About
it
us
at
the
very
end
as
this
last
time,
could
you
consider
a
soft
brand
right?
We
started
investigating
with
hilton
hilton
softbands
would
be
too
expensive
to
to
build
and
tarpon.
So
we
changed
to
choice.
Joyce
has
over
6800
hotels
in
the
united
states
and
they
have
a
brand
called
cambria.
Canberra
is
a
boutique
hotel.
They
let
us
do
pretty
much
whatever
we
would
like
to
do
outside
and
also
inside.
We
have
engaged
with
jackie
arena's
interior
design.
O
E
I
have
you
done
yeah
some
questions
and
some
comments.
First,
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
y'all
have
done
a
good
job
from
where
we
were
to
where
we
are,
and
I
think
that
is
good,
so
we're
making
progress.
I
know
that
the
docs
is
a
collective
architectural
display
of
various
architectural
displays.
O
I
agree
very
much.
They
also
have
regular
buildings
which
don't
reflect
nothing
in
tarpon
springs
yeah
like
the
aquarium
yeah
like
some
buildings,
which
follow
that
agree.
E
So
we
we
can
agree
on
that,
but
we're
here
and
you're
here
to
make
a
change
change
for
the
better
and.
O
J
E
As
again
since
we
all
can
say
for
the
most
part,
it
is
desirable
to
have
a
hotel
in
tarpon
springs
and
it's
desirable
to
have
a
hotel
that
fits
tarpon
springs
in
my
opinion,
not
in
its
present
condition,
but
in
its
future
condition,
and
while
we
may
not
have
a
committee
that
looks
at
design
and
all
that,
but
here's
our
start,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
change
that
I've
seen
in
the
new
illustrations,
just
the
point
of
suggestion,
since
we're
since
cambria
or
cambia
cambria,
since
you're
working
with
them-
and
they
seem
to
have
the
willingness
to
allow
you
to
be
creative.
E
I
suggest
don't
look
within
tarpon
springs
for
what
needs
to
be
grecian.
You
can
go
to
any
of
the
greek
islands
that
pretty
much
we
all
live
in.
We
have
relatives
who
lived
in
and-
and
you
will
find
some
very
interesting
grecian
designs
that
are
not
complex,
they're
relatively
simple,
yet
they
portray
the
greek
shin
theme,
both
in
architectural
and
in
color,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
saw
the
illustrations
that
were
provided
to
us
this
week
that
showed
the
homes
of
greece.
O
Yeah,
what
I
want
to
say
is
we
we
never
intend
to
come
here
and
force
something
right.
Last
last
meeting
right,
we
talked
about
conditional
use
right,
we
didn't
talk
about
architecture,
there
had
to
be
some
drawing
or
anything
right.
This
was
not.
This
was
not
the
home
tool
was
not
the
final
product
right
we
came
here.
We
listened
to
what
you
said.
We
we
said
we're
not
going
to
try
to
vacate
history
anymore,
we're
going
to
change
some
architecture.
O
We
can't
really
go
away
from
the
four
stories
right
because
of
the
alley.
Otherwise
we
have
to
wake
at
that
alley.
Right,
extend
the
building
right
to
to
make
it
lower,
but
then
there's
also
something
you
talk
about,
is
visual
visual
pollution
right
and
if
a
building
goes
on
and
on
and
on
right,
it
looks
also
different
and
some
some
people
might
not
like
that
right.
We
we
met
with
various
people
right,
we
asked
questions.
O
O
Why
we
appreciate
their
input
most
of
the
questions?
People
couldn't
answer
what
they
want.
We
just
trying
to
accommodate
the
whole
process.
We're
doing
is
accommodate,
tarpon
springs
right,
because
otherwise
there
is
no
architectural
guidelines
and
for
for
whatever
reason,
we
could
build
a
neon
yellow
building
correct.
E
O
I
O
If
I
would
pick
santorini
or
something-
and
I
was
told
that
we
were
taught
to
they,
keep
it
close
to
what
tarpon
is
that's
what
the
I
mean.
O
E
All
right,
but
I'm
just
suggesting
what
I
suggest
and
I
gave
you
the
preface
of
what
I
believe
is
don't
look
at
the
sponge
docs
I
mean
the
sponge
docs
right
now
is
a
history
of
from
the
1900s
to
the
present
and
and
I
think,
you're,
bringing
something
that
has
the
ability
to
historically
change
the
look
of
the
greek
town
and,
if
you're
willing
to
do
that
and
stay
within
your
economic
budget.
O
Yeah
we
will
do
that.
We
will
try
that,
as
I
said,
we're
not
trying
to
force
something
we're
trying
to
accommodate
people,
we
had
meetings.
You
know
we
invited
people
to
the
architects
office,
you
know
to
express
their
feelings.
You
know.
D
But
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
you're
quite
welcome
and
I
I
think
nick
said
it
well,
you
know
my
my
thoughts
or
my
feelings
with
regard
to
in
design
concepts.
There's
there's
something
that
that
you
know
you
know
when
you
see
it
and
I'm
not
an
architect
to
design
it,
but
but
you
know
something
that
has
to
be
compatible.
I
mean
it's.
O
Really
do
yeah,
but
everybody
we
talk
to
right
points
us
in
a
different
direction
right
and
that's
very
difficult
to
please.
E
O
P
P
And
I
can
tell
you
hi
good
evening,
elisa
garcia-frita
again,
I'm
the
wife
of
benedict
richard
and
we'd
like
to
add
something
just
like
he
said
and
mention
in
our
last
meeting
here
with
you.
You
suggested
that
we
met
we
meet
with
the
town
and
city
residents
and
merchants,
and
we
did
that,
especially
we
met
with
miss
tina
bucobales
and
I'm
sorry,
if
I'm
not
pronouncing
that
correctly.
P
We
we
got
more
input
in
an
email
that
was
received
just
recently
with
a
picture
of
what
the
new
post
mail,
I
think
house
is
going
to
look
like
that
would
have
been
very
helpful
if
that
would
have
been
brought
to
us
when
we
met
with
her.
When
we
mentioned
to
her
that
you
know,
we
have
been
browsing,
different
googling,
different
images
of
different
buildings
and
different.
You
know,
islands
of
greek,
greek
islands,
she
told
us,
that's
not
tarpon
springs.
P
Tarpon
springs
is
unique,
so
we
need
to
really
just
look
at
what
is
here
and
what
is
here
is
a
very
eclectic
town
like
everybody.
I
think
everybody
agrees
so,
like
my
husband
said
we're
trying
to
do
our
best.
However,
we're
reaching
out
we're
not
getting
any
input
really
any
right
input.
Let's
put
it
that
way
and
we're
spending
money
time
to
be
here.
We
want
a
hotel
done
in
tarpon
springs,
just
as
we
heard
so
many
merchants
saying
we
wanted
a
hotel.
P
P
We
want
it,
we
want
it
really
bad,
and
that
is
why
we're
spending
time
effort-
and
you
know
we
have
met
one-on-one
with
different
people.
So
with
that
said,
I
just
want
to
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
we
are
trying
our
best.
We
just
every
direction
that
we
go
is
a
different
turn.
So
thank
you.
A
I
we
we
all
understand
it's
a
it's
a
very
difficult
task
and
I
wish
there
were
design
guidelines
in
place
that
would
help
with
the
process,
but
but
I
think
we're
also
all
kind
of
saying
that
we've
we
have
made
good
progress.
I
feel
since
the
last
meeting,
but
I
also
think
I'm
hearing
everybody
probably
saying
that
we're
not
quite
there
yet
either.
E
O
You
suggested
we
should
look
up
some
creek
islands
right
and.
E
I
appreciate
that
this,
this
tarpon
springs.
Greek
community
is
made
up
of
a
few
islands
and
it's
the
dodecanese
islands
and
majority.
But
there
are,
you
can
get
some
great
examples
and
your
architect
can
can
look
at
it
and
tell
you
that
you
know
just
just
take
the
look.
If
you
take
the
look
you'll
you'll
understand
where
I'm
coming
from
and
again
it's
my
opinion,
but
I
can
tell
you
from
yeah.
O
That
guy
here
out,
I
understand
what
he's
saying,
but
since
there
is
no
architecture
guidelines,
we
make
our
own
guidelines.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
going
to
redo
it
again
right
and
come
back
and
then
something
is
again
out
of
place
and
we
we
have
to
move
forward
right
and
what
we're
asking
tonight
is
conditional
use
right
and
then
we
go
to
side
plan.
And
if
anybody
on
this
sport
could
like
point
us
in
the
right
direction
or
would
like
to
come
meet
with
our
architect
right
to
help
us
achieve
that.
E
Let
me
add
a
part
two
to
my
comments,
because
the
reason
why
I
was
focusing
on
that
northwest
parcel
of
land
that
has
no
use
doesn't
have
any
intended
use
I
mean,
are
you
you've
achieved
your
density
of
108
units
by
having.
E
O
In
in
the
future,
I
think
the
only
thing
you
can
do
with
this
land
is
parking
all
right.
E
O
E
E
O
The
five
stories
right
now
is
the
alley
we
have.
We
have
an
alley
on
the
property.
I
don't
understand.
E
E
O
E
E
O
E
O
E
O
E
F
We
went
through
that
conversation
with
hilton
about
parking
off-site
and,
and
we
were
happy
to
have
that
conversation
again,
not
sure
what
the
answer
will
be.
There
are
some
restrictions
from
a
safety
standpoint
and
otherwise
about
the
guests
and
from
the
drop-off,
but
we
will
certainly
have
that
that
conversation,
but
I
think
the
point
of
the
alley
is
that
you
know
the
smaller
the
developed
area
of
a
parcel
gets
the
yield
gets
to
be
a
higher
building
and
that's
the
trade-off
in
site
design
is.
F
F
C
I'm
still
confused
here.
Can
I
yeah
go
ahead,
so
mr
zimbilis
is
saying
you
bring
the
building
down
right
and
then
you
use
the
out
parcel
as
parking
that.
C
E
E
F
Was
the
answer
to
the
first
question,
which
is
we
will
count
the
spaces
we
will
design
look
at
a
parking
lot,
design
we'll
have
to
talk
to
the
brand
about
whether
people
can
cross
the
street.
We
can
see
how
it
is
and
then
the
answer.
The
second
question
is:
it
is
the
way
it
is
currently
proposed
because
of
the
alley.
C
A
Personally,
I
don't
know
if
that,
if
I
speak
for
others
or
not,
but
if
if
there
was
some
variation-
and
I
realize
that
costs
rooms,
but
if,
if
the
end
stepped
down
and
kind
of
built
it
up
out
of
the
ground
that
kind
of
effect,
I
I
think
that
would
help
the
architecture
be
more
sensitive
to
the
area.
Q
Patriotic
chumbi
lead
designer
at
dlw
architects,
the
elevations
that
you're
seeing
towards
the
back
they're
2d.
So
they
it
does
look
flat.
There
is
some
changes
in
protrusions
and
as
well
as
angles
on
there,
so
it
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
boxy
or
a
flat
facade,
there's.
Definitely
some
changes
and
shapes
different
shapes,
as
well
as
the
roof
lines.
That's
why
there's
different
heights
in
the
roof
lines
just
to
to
break
that
monotony
or
that
flatness.
A
I
I
do
understand
that,
but
I'm
I'm
picturing
things
where
there's
actual
variation
in
in
height,
where
this
this
form
is,
is
all
one
height,
and
I
and
I
understand
it's-
a
hotel
you're
trying
to
maximize
rooms.
I
understand
why
it's
that
way,
but
I'm
saying
maybe
at
the
it
we're
up
in
the
total
number
of
rooms
anyways
at
this
point,
maybe
sacrificing
a
few
rooms
would
would
help
to
satisfy
some
of
the
concerns.
Q
Roughly
about
31.
Q
C
Was
the
average
what's
the
average
square
foot
of
each
unit.
Q
It
changes
because
you
have
your
kings
and
double
queens
they're,
usually
around
300
or
so
square
feet.
Q
C
Yeah,
so
if
you're
going
down
20
you're
going
down
25
and
I'm
not
an
architect,
so
I
know
it's
simplistic,
but
you
you're
going
down
25
in
size,
right,
yeah
and
that
but
not
and
you've
increased
rooms
from
what
was
it
97.
Before
now,
108
29.
C
So
you
went
up
about
10
units.
C
Couldn't
you
go?
I
don't
understand
how
you
couldn't
if
you're
get,
if
you,
if
you're
losing
25
of
the
room
size
that
you
couldn't
have
brought
this
building
down.
F
C
Q
Has
been,
it
has
been?
Yes,
it
has
been
reduced
because,
again
by
how
much
I
couldn't
tell
you
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
again
since
because
we
are
moving,
it
planned
east
to
fit
in
the
constraints
of
that
site.
We
had
to
reduce
the
building
because,
again
the
cambria
prototype
those
rooms
since
they're
not
for
extended
stay.
They
are
smaller.
C
We
don't
I
mean
obviously
we're
not
privy
to
your
business
plan
and
I
know
that's
not
our
purview
to
analyze
your
business
plan,
but
we're
we're
asked
to
now
believe
that
you
had.
You
asked
for
a
97
90,
whatever
how
many
rooms
you
asked
the
first
time
now
you're
saying
now
we're
mandated
now
to
go
to
108
in
order
to
make
money
to
justify
this.
This
building.
O
C
O
C
C
O
Sure-
and
we
were
asked
last
time,
could
we
provide
some
sort
of
soft
brand
instead
of
like
a
home
too
hampton
hotel
holiday
express
right,
canberra
is
considered
boutique
hotel,
so
they
let
let
me
work
on
the
outside
the
way
I
want
the
way
topping
ones
as
well
as
the
inside.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
engaged
with
czech
arena's
interior
design.
We're
working
closely
with
a
girl
which
was
born
in
in
tarpon,
springs
and
raised.
C
Yeah:
okay,
on
that
on
this,
reaching
out
to
the
community.
What
day
and
time
did
you
guys
have
that
meeting
with
merchants
and
such.
O
We
were
engaged
by
the
merchants
right.
We.
O
It
was
thursday
what
was
it
elisa,
yeah.
C
Nine
o'clock
on
okay,
so
it
was
nine
o'clock
on
a
working
day.
Nine
a.m
on
a
week.
Okay.
But
if
you
recall
the
last
time
that
you
were
here
I
had
and
that
we
had
the
mayor
in
the
office
in
the
audience
and
said
you
could
have
it
here
and
you
could
bring,
we
could
bring
a
whole
slew
of
the
city,
so
you
would
talk
to
one
more
than
just
one
person.
C
We
gave
you
that
we
we
and
that's
we're
still
affording
you
that
if
you
want
to
get
a
general
sense
and
not
you
you're
saying
well,
we
would
talk
to
this
one
person
I
mean
I
respect
tina
book
of
alice
very
much
but
she's
just
one
voice
in
our
town.
So.
O
All
right
I
do
understand,
we
have
the
support
of
150
people,
I'm
pretty
sure.
If
I
go
to
the
merchant
and
ask
hey
we're
building
a
108
room
hotel,
will
you
sign
it
again?
They
will
we
had
nothing
to
do
this.
Is
we
didn't
initially
initiate
this?
They
initiated
it
by
themselves
there
there
is
always
opposition
to
something
we
trying
to
accommodate.
We
invited
people
to
meet
with
the
architect
and
again
we
didn't
get
answers
on
the
questions
we
asked.
We
asked,
for
example,
what
color
would
you
like?
It
was
an
answer.
O
Who
did
you
ask
that,
for
example,
miss
tina,
okay,.
O
G
G
Think
the
goal
posts
are
being
moved
on
you
and
I
think
you
feel
that
way.
I
might
be
alone
and
being
popular,
but
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
height
hotels
are
tall
and
what
is
probably
missed
here
is,
I
think,
you've
got
some
female
restrictions.
There
they're
going
to
keep
you
to
keep
that
lowest
construction
elevation,
exactly
where
it
is.
That
is
correct,
but
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
more
credit,
because
you
made
some
huge
maneuvers.
G
I
was
concerned
about
the
vacation
of
hill
street.
You
abandoned
that.
Yes,
there
were
residents
that
were
concerned
about
vacation
of
the
alley.
You
abandoned
that
those
were
big
gives.
They
were
huge
gives
in
fact
you
completely
redesigned
it.
They
asked
you
to
change
hotel
brands,
you
did
it,
I
there
are
they
and
we
ask
that
you
have
public
meetings,
you
had
a
public
meeting
johnny
on
the
spot.
You
have
bent
over
backwards
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
because
I
can
feel
how
hard
you
and
your
wife
and
your
staff
have
worked.
O
G
They
we
have
excellent
staff.
You
were
right
now,
I'm
lucky
is
that
I
can
see
things
three-dimensionally
and
you're
right
as
constructed
on
the
z
design
along
the
road.
It
is
not
flat-fronted
at
all.
That
being
said,
the
two
dimensions
that
have
been
provided
to
us
are
short-coming.
Probably
the
overall
look
a
three-dimensional
viewpoint.
Some
stronger
software
might
help
them
be
able
to
see
that,
but
that's
not
it
that
that's
their
forte
they've
got
a
concern
about
how
it
looks.
G
G
We
have
flooding
issues
on
that
road.
That
parcel
is
a
wonderful
location
even
for
one
of
these
step
designs
just
to
provide
a
little
overflow
and
there
is
a
chronic
shortage
of
parking
and
there
maybe
is
an
opportunity
for
five
places,
six
places
as
a
gift
to
the
city
you've
already
given
so
much,
but
maybe
you
could
give
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
it
would
help
overcome
some
other
obstacles,
such
as
height,
go
ahead
and
forgive
my
manners.
I
looked
for
your
name.
I
couldn't
find
it.
Your
name
is.
F
We
hear
you,
I
think
your
suggestion
suggestion
might
be
in
conflict
with
one
of
your
colleagues
suggestion
to
use
it
for
required
parking
to
lower
the
height,
as
you
can
see
you
have
an
applicant
who
is
is
very
generous.
Who
wants
to
be
here
is
very
willing
to
consider
many
of
these
options,
and
I
think
the
same
way.
At
the
last
meeting,
you
provided
some
specific
direction
that
he
took,
if
you
all
have
a
consensus
as
to
that
specific
direction
or
prioritizing
that
direction
with
your
recommendation.
O
I
mean
I
I
I
would
like
to
add
something
here:
the
output
outpuzzle
is
maybe
a
little
bit
less
than
half
an
acre
and
has
obviously
quite
some
value
land
is
expensive
in
tarpon
that
speaks
for
topping.
O
I,
I
would
have
no
problem
having
a
conversation
with
the
city
to
achieve
something
in
that
manner.
I
agree
there
is
no
parking
and
I
do
not
want
to
operate
a
parking
lot
or
anything
like
this.
So
maybe
that's
like
a
good
engagement
or
something
like
that.
You
know
so.
O
No,
I
I
mean,
as
I
said,
my
wife
and
me
looked
at
the
the
piece
of
land
we
do
not
want
to
construct
a
house
on
there,
and
the
only
thing
which
makes
sense
right
is
parking
right,
and
my
wife
and
me
are
not
in
the
business
of
operating
a
parking
lot
right.
So
if
the
city
is
interested
to
engage
with
us
talk
about
it,
how
this
can
be
achieved,
I'm
I'm
wide
open.
G
We
have
a
very
strong
staff,
they
might
have
some
ideas
and
I'll
just
take
this
one
step
farther.
I
suspect-
and
I
didn't
do
the
math.
It's
got
a
16
foot
elevation
and
I
don't
know
what
the
bfe
and
the
dfe
is,
but
I
suspect
that
perhaps
dropping
this
is
what
I
don't
think,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
that
too
much.
G
I
suspect
it's
not
practical
for
them
to
drop
it
and
lose
the
under
portion
parking
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
there's
a
reason
that
everything
is
done
that
way.
So
I
just
suspect
now
this
is
discussion,
but
it
might
not
be
an
option
in
in
that
way.
Q
Q
Yes,
you
are
correct.
We
are
in
the
fema,
which
is
zone
ae,
which
means
that
the
free
board
is
at
11
feet,
which
our
second
floor.
Our
habitable
areas
are
currently
at
12
feet
right.
We
do
have
a
the
fitness
center
on
the
on
the
on
the
ground
floor,
which
we
would
have
to
flood
proof.
As
we
progress
through
the
design.
Q
There
will
be
some
areas
that
we
would
have
to
place
on
the
on
the
first
on
the
ground
floor,
which
would
again,
we
would
have
to
flood
proof,
but
yes,
as
far
as
cost
and
just
the
design
of
it,
it
makes
more
sense
to
race
the
the
building
than
it
is
to
bring
it
all
down.
G
G
R
A
little
short
good
evening,
my
name
is
rita
kutcher-rice
and
I
have
I
don't
know
if
this
is
timed
or
not.
But
I
have
to
want
to
speak
from
me
and
also
to
speak
for
my
neighbor,
who
is
at
6
50
609,
pope
street
and
I'm
at
6.
H
11.
one
second
man,
one
second,
I
think
there's
a
couple
things.
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we
haven't
that
you're
claiming
you're
an
affected
party,
which
is
something
we
have
to
address.
If
you
just
want
to
make
a
public
comment
for
or
against
the
application,
we
as
a
board
needs
to
address.
If
you
want
a
time
limit
which
normally
by
your
rules,
is
four
minutes.
Yes,.
C
I
think
she's,
establishing
effectiveness.
H
I
think
she's
she
has
the
letter
that
you
guys
have
in
your
packet.
She
and
I
have
spoken
earlier,
so
I
don't
want
her
to
start
reading
until
we
have
all
the
ground
rules
figured
out.
So
there
is
a
four-minute
time
limit
for
public
comment
per
person
and,
if
you're
claiming
you're
an
affected
party
by
this,
I
need
you
to
explain
to
the
to
the
board
and
myself
well,.
R
H
R
Correctly,
okay,
thank
you
right
now,
I'm
going
to
read
to
you
as
best
as
I
can
a
letter
from
mr
corliss
of
609
hope
street.
It
says
a
deer
planning
board.
My
property
is
located
at
609,
hope
street
and
it's
adjacent
to
the
proposed
hotel
site.
I
am
sorry
I'm
not
available
to
attend
this
meeting.
Personally,
I
think
avalanche
fans
have
bought
all
the
airline
tickets
to
denver
from
denver
to
tampa.
R
R
R
I
have
mostly
shared
the
applicants
changing
plans
with
mrs
crutorize
and
mr
cycleson
as
they
have
become
available
to
me
via
planning
department.
I
would
suggest
the
city
take
a
more
proactive
approach
to
informing
these
property
owners.
Mr
rice
and
mr
cycles
and
roots
go
much
deeper
in
tarpon
springs
than
mine.
R
R
To
retain
a
tourist
dollar
if
it
doesn't
adversely
impact
the
adjacent
residential
uses,
I
am
not
in
favor
of
a
50
room
staring
into
mine
or
constant
glare
of
the
night
lights
flying
into
my
home.
A
54
foot
hotel
wall
outside
my
patio
and
upstairs
lanai
would
severely
impact
my
home's
living
environment,
property
values
and
the
privacy
of
existing
and
future
residents
and
guests
forever.
The
proposed
hotel
is
oppressive
directly.
R
It
would
have
an
unduly
negative
impact
on
a
pre-existing
use
without
balance
my
career
spans
42
years
as
a
real
estate
broker,
and
I
have
sold
hundreds
of
homes.
It
doesn't
take
an
expert,
however,
to
conclude
that
this
proposal
does
not
comply
with
compatibility
requirements
set
forth
in
the
florida
administrative
code.
The
city's
comprehensive
plan,
special
area
plan
parenthesis
sap,
smart
code
or
the
tenants
of
a
40a
zoning
in
case
of
the
any
any
code
conflicts,
the
more
stringent
ones
are
to
prevail,
and
existing
users
take
precedence.
R
This
application
should
be
denied
and
cannot
move
forward.
As
the
severe
incompatibilities
of
the
proposed
hotel
cannot
be
mitigated,
it
should
be
noted
that
elevations
highs
setbacks
and
distances
between
buildings,
especially
relating
to
the
homes
on
hob
street,
are
required
and
yet
have
been
consistently
left
out
by
the
applicant.
R
Lastly,
I
have
some
curi
a
serious
concerns
about
demands
and
future
success
of
a
hundred
room
hotel
as
a
short-term
rental
operator.
At
the
sponge
docks,
there
has
never
been
demand
for
my
home
during
the
summer
months
of
june
to
october,
the
hotel
will
likely
likely
be
mostly
vacant
during
the
off-season,
with
efficiency
kitchens.
R
R
R
R
Tarpon
springs,
it's
a
tourist
town.
Yes,
but
it's
not
a
destination
town
people
come
to
tarpon
with
because
they
either
have
families
within
the
radius
of
50
to
60
miles
and
they
come
to
visit
family
or
they
come
to
clearwater
beach
to
be
on
the
beach
and
they
take
day.
Trips
to
tarpon
springs
to
come
view.
The
area
enjoy
the
the
culture
enjoy.
The
food
enjoy
the
the
docks,
but
if
you're
down
there
by
7
30
at
night,
especially
in
the
winter,
there's
nobody
down
there-
and
I
know
that
because
I
live
there.
R
R
R
R
R
R
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
anyone
else,
who's
claiming
affected
party
status.
B
I
live
at
1504,
riverside
drive,
but
my
family
and
I
have
that
piece
of
property
used
to
be
known
as
mama
pappas,
gift
shop,
801
to
the
canis
boulevard
and
625
hope
street
my
property
borders,
the
north
east
corner
of
the
applicant's
property.
The
only
thing
that
separates
us
is
a
ten
foot
alley
like
they
have
behind
rita
marangos.
B
One
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out:
I
was
here
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
when
the
issue
of
the
street
was
involved
hill
street.
At
that
time
they
had
1.9
acres
and
they
were
using
the
footprint
of
a
hill
street.
Now
hill
street
is
not
being
vacated,
but
they
still
got
1.9
acres,
so
I
thought
that
maybe
the
way
they
got
1.9
acres
is
because
they
use
the
parcel
across
the
street
on
the
other
side
of.
B
B
Also
since
there's
a
half
an
acre
across
the
street
that
could
be
sold
to
somebody
else.
Therefore,
we're
only
dealing
with
1.4
acres
that
would
only
allow
85
units
to
be
built
at
60
units
per
acre
right,
because
that
that
parcel
across
the
street
could
be
sold
to
a
third
party
later
before
there
were
kitchenettes.
B
B
That's
what's
happened
in
other
cities
with
homestead
exemption
filed
on
some
of
these
units,
so
I
strongly
suggest
that
y'all
require
a
recorded
reservation
of
record
that
this
can
only
be
owned
by
one
owner.
It
could
be
a
corporation.
Several
people
could
own
stock
in
a
corporation,
but
you
can't
have
108
deeds
with
108
tax
exemptions,
otherwise
you're
not
getting
a
hotel
you're
getting
a
condominium
which
would
have
been
only
allowed
about
22
units,
15
units,
an
acre,
an
acre
and
a
half
would
have
been
22
and
a
half
units.
B
This
is
a
nice
way
to
go
to
100.
and
since
staff
brought
it
up
that
you
could
record
this
reservation.
Also,
I
point
out:
well,
you
could
walk
across
the
street
from
hill
street
to
park.
Why
can't
you
walk
across
the
street
and
park
at
roosevelt
same
story
right?
So
all
I'm
pointing
out
is
hotel.
I
I'm
really
not
here
on
the
height
and
whether
it
looks
greek
style,
but
I
will
point
out
something:
that's
not
knock.
B
Tarpon
springs,
that's
sponge
exchange
by
the
way
nobody
had
a
harder
bottle
than
I
did
when
I
wanted
to
do
the
sponge
exchange.
When
you
walk
in
that
sponge
exchange,
those
units
on
the
left
are
the
same.
120
year
old,
clovers,
with
the
same
doors
on
them
and
the
bell
tower
is
the
same
and
the
configuration
is
the
same
and
the
tower
that
puts
the
flag
up
is
the
same.
B
It
looks
exactly
like
the
buildings
on
the
docks
and
I
was
involved
in
the
building
of
papa's
restaurant,
and
that
was
built
to
look
like
the
greek
building.
So
all
the
people
that
are
saying
and
then
a
lot
of
the
other
buildings.
They
were
built
110
120
years
ago
and
they're
exactly
they're,
the
real
mccoy
they're,
the
same
buildings.
E
B
B
This
property
across
the
street
has
to
be
part
of
the
footprint
and
whether
it
goes
four
stories
five
stories,
but
I
just
want
y'all
to
know
that
there
are
several
buildings
down
there
and
the
mystique
of
the
sponge
docks.
Don't
forget,
if
you
don't
see
any
vacancies
down
there
like
you,
see
up
and
down
highway
19,
so
they
couldn't
have
been
done
doing
too
bad
a
job
down
there.
B
So
any
event,
I
do
think
we
need
a
hotel.
I
hope
it's
the
hotel
and
everybody
knows
people
are
only
going
to
stay
one
or
two
days
and
the
only
reason
you
need
kitchens
is
because
you're
gonna
condominiumize
it
and
eventually
sell
condos.
But
if
there's
no
condominiums-
and
it's
born
to
put
it
of
record-
sounds
good-
have
a
nice
day.
B
H
You,
mr
chairman,
I
apologize
the
applicant
and
staff
both
have
an
opportunity
to
question
affected
parties
which
I
failed
to
bring
out
to
the
board's
attention
after
our
first
speaker,
so
the
applicant
may
have
some
questions
and
staff
may
and
the
board
also
can
ask
questions
of
affected
parties.
So
we
might
want
to
you
want
to
work.
J
H
H
S
F
J
A
A
Mr
chairman,
no
problem
and
anyone
else,
that's
claiming
affected
party
status.
L
H
Second,
one
second
one:
second,
I
wouldn't
consider
that
adverse
party
public
comment,
probably
but
being
two
blocks
away,
is
not
necessary
any
different
than
the
others
in
the
community.
Adverse
party
needs
to
be
someone
that
has
an
effect
more
severe
than
everyone
else
in
the
community.
Yeah.
H
A
L
L
This
project
from
what
I'm
looking
at
in
these
photographs
belongs
on
us-19,
not
on
the
sponge
docks.
We
don't
need
108
rooms,
we
need
about
35
or
40
rooms
in
a
small
micro
tail
in
tarpon
springs,
which
could
be
tastefully
designed
to
fit
in
with
the
flavor
and
the
character
of
the
sponge
docks.
This
is
too
large
a
footprint.
L
It's
too
many
rooms
in
april
may
june
july
august
september.
Those
rooms
will
be
empty,
they
will
be
empty
and
in
the
tourist
season
from
november
to
march
it
may
be
half
full.
But,
like
the
ladies
said,
this
tarpon
springs
is
a
place
where
people
come
on
day
trips.
There
are
people
who
come
for
the
epiphany
and
they're
people
who
come
from
the
march
25th
parade
and
I've
had
trouble
finding
places
for
people
coming
to
visit
on
those
occasions
to
stay,
but
we
don't
need
108
rooms.
L
L
The
other
issue
is
that
nobody
has
mentioned
traffic.
How
are
these
cars
going
to
get
back
and
forth
to
alternative
19?
Well,
they
can
go
up
to
decades
or
they
can
go
along
roosevelt
and
make
a
left
at
tsuraiki's
sponge
warehouse
or
they
can
turn
up
or
granble
and
go
to
hope
street
and
go
downhope
street
to
grand
boulevard
and
then
go
to
ada
street
or
to
my
street
reed
street.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
traffic
problem.
L
L
I
could
take
a
picture
of
this
hotel
and
go
up
and
down
center
street
in
reed
street
and
park
street
and
aydah
street
in
grand
boulevard
in
cedar
and
division
and
spruce,
and
I
could
have
150
signatures
in
two
days
of
people
who
don't
do
not
want
this
in
our
neighborhood.
So
yes,
let's
get
a
hotel,
but
not
this
one.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
It
is
wrong
for
the
area.
There's
been
no
consideration
to
the
residents,
the
residential
areas.
Yes,
I
want
a
hotel,
but
not
this
one
and
not
there.
I
agree
with
mr
boutus
put
it
on
19
put
it
on
pinellas
avenue.
This
is
not
the
right
place
as
long
as
it
continues
to
flood
there.
As
long
as
we
have
a
traffic
problem,
this
will
adversely
affect
my
business
because
my
customers
won't
be
able
to
get
to
me.
N
Tina
pukavalis
115
athens
street,
I
kind
of
feel
like
I
might
be
an
affected
party.
Let
me
ask
staff
first,
I
did
send
some
images
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
them
up
there.
Okay
and
let
me
first,
let
me
make
some
comments.
I
did
go
to
the
q,
a
which
was
sponsored
by
the
merchants
association
and
while
it
was
open
to
the
public,
it
was
told
to
me
that
was
predominantly
for
the
merchants
association
I
met.
Mr
mr
mrs
fritzer.
N
There
and
the
merchants
association
suggested
that
we
should
get
together
and
talk
with
them
and
two
members
of
the
greek
town,
preservation
and
heritage
society,
of
which
I
am
the
president,
did
go
and
meet
with
them
and
with
pedro
who,
I
guess,
is
no
longer
here.
I
think
we
had
a
very
pleasant.
Oh
there,
you
are,
we
had
a
very
pleasant
discussion.
I
felt
it
was
very
productive
and
they
received
the
national
register
nomination,
showing
the
pictures
that
you
got
with
one
exception.
N
Mrs
fritscher
wasn't
in
that
meeting,
but
that
was
of
the
new
city
clerk's
office.
So
we
talked
about
what
constitutes
the
vernacular
architectural
style.
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
from
some
of
those
photos.
There
were
many
more
photos
and
I
don't
think
it's
important
that
they
didn't
get
the
picture
of
the
new
clerk's
office
because
they
could
have
just
gone
and
looked
at
the
philippe
host
building
and
figured
it
out
from
there
frankly.
N
But
the
reason
we're
bringing
that
up.
That
picture
up
is
that.
Well,
I
thought
the
new
design
was
really
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
included
many
elements,
and
I
felt
they
acted
in
very
good
faith.
It
still
was
basically
a
big
box,
roadside
hotel
building
with
some
applied
elements,
and
I
included
the
picture
of
the
clerk's
office
to
show
that
it
can
be
done
if
you
want
to
to
create
a
building.
That
really
is
in
the
style
of
the
local
architecture.
N
I
think
that's
pretty
clear
now.
I
also
noted
in
our
meeting
that,
in
addition
to
style,
there
were
two
very
important
elements
that
we
weren't
addressing,
and
that
was
the
scale
the
size
of
the
hotel,
which
had
the
ramification
of
traffic
and
mr
fricha
made
it
very
clear.
Publicly
in
the
meeting
and
then
with
us
when
we
met
with
him,
you
know
privately
that
he
needs
at
least
a
hundred
rooms.
N
A
hundred
rooms
also
means,
according
to
the
new
traffic
assessment,
they
said,
860
some
extra
trips
a
day.
Well,
if
you
include
staff,
it's
more
like
900
coming
and
then
going
and
that's
going
to
have
to
come
down.
Roosevelt
street
primarily
roosevelt
street,
which,
as
we
know,
is
small
and
floods
almost
daily
and
are
up
dodecanese,
which
is
blocked
and
congested
almost
daily,
so
they
will
fan
out
through
the
residential
district.
N
And,
although
I
know
we're
talking
about
this
particular
how
tall
you
can
build,
what
no
one
is
talking
about
is
that
closer
than
the
heart
of
the
sponge
docs
to
this
hotel
is
the
residential
district,
two
blocks
away
and
all
of
that
traffic
is
going
through
our
residential
district,
and
we,
I
don't
see
how
we
can
handle
that,
and
I
don't
see
how
this
can
be
ignored,
no
matter
how
tall
they
can
build
it.
But
again,
the
request
here
is
not
just
any
request.
It's
a
request.
N
We
know
that
they
want
to
build
a
five-story
108
room,
at
least
hotel,
and
mr
fritcha
also
said
that,
while
this
won't
have
kitchenettes,
it
will
have
a
bar
and
a
breakfast
room.
So
the
hotel
scale
and
size
are
not
consistent
with
the
historic
architecture,
which
is
predominantly
one
and
two
stories
in
that
area.
With
a
very
few
exceptions,
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
the
tarpon
tower,
which
is
on
19
and
two
miles
away.
N
N
Preservation
and
heritage
association
request
that
you
do
not
approve
the
conditional
use
permit,
because
it
is
not
consistent
with
a
historical
character
and
also
the
tarpon
springs.
Land
development
code
states
that
the
board
shall
not
grant
conditional
use
unless
certain
standards
are
met.
One
of
those
may
I
have
some
extra
thank
you
from
mrs
juano
over
there
name.
N
Okay,
so
the
land
code
says
the
use
to
which
the
property
may
be
put.
It
must
be
appropriate
and
compatible
with
existing
and
planned
uses
in
the
area,
but
it
is
inconsistent
with
balancing
the
needs
of
businesses,
residents
and
the
working
waterfront.
The
traffic
would
very
negatively
impact
all
of
those
people.
It
says
that
in
the
strategic
area
plan
that
that
needs
to
be
balanced,
also
conditional
use
will
will
it
also
says
conditional
use
must
not
result
in
adverse
impacts
to
historical
resources.
N
I
also
want
to
say
I
am
in
favor
of
a
hotel
as
most
of
us
are
it's
just
the
right
hotel
in
the
right
scale
in
the
right
side
that
is
appropriate
to
the
place,
the
historic
district
and
the
needs,
and
by
the
way
we
we
have
talked
with
planning
about
getting
the
guidelines,
but
we
have
to
abide
by
their
schedule
and
they
aren't
free
because
of
the
other
planning
things
that
they
have
to
do
with
the
comp
plan
and
strategic
plan
until
the
spring.
N
But
in
the
meantime
you
do
have
the
the
assessment
of
the
vernacular
architecture
of
the
area,
and
you
can
go
by
that
and
deny
the
permit.
Thank
you.
T
Chairman
and
board
members,
robert
rockline
755,
north
lake
boulevard
and
tarpon
springs
someday.
I
someday
soon.
I
hope
we're
all
here
to
discuss
a
proposal.
That's
so
perfect
that
the
only
people
in
attendance
are
the
applicant
and
their
attorney,
but
unfortunately,
today
is
is
not
that
day.
You
folks
are
the
gatekeepers
of
our
city.
You
often
have
to
borrow
both
solomon's
sword
and
his
wisdom
for
matters
such
as
this.
It's
it's
a
very
delicate
balance.
I
understand
the
concept
of
a
hotel
at
the
sponge.
T
Docks
makes
sense,
since
we
in
tarpon
and
pinellas
county
and
the
state
of
florida
are
in
fact,
tourist
destinations
and
it's
reasonable
to
make
a
an
effort
to
accommodate
such
visitors
as
they
contribute
to
both
our
economy
and
our
community.
In
the
case
of
this
proposal,
the
developer
has
reached
out
to
the
community
and
made
an
effort
to
adapt
and
compromise
the
project
to
some
degree,
based
on
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
many,
that's
that's
very
laudable.
T
Most
developers
will
just
try
to
steamroll
right
in
so
I
I
commend
them
for
that.
T
Many
have
also
commented
that
the
design
elements,
as
shown
in
the
several
elevations
and
the
renderings
you
know
as
as
negative,
you
know
to
the
to
the
area,
but
if,
if
looks
were
the
only
hope,
the
only
hoop
that
we
had
to
jump
through
here,
I
don't
doubt
that
eventually
there
would
be
some
something
proposed
that
moore
would
like,
then,
would
dislike,
unfortunately,
looks
are
easier
to
amend
than
the
infrastructure
and
the
logistics
and
the
fact
that
this
area
experiences
flooding
on
many
of
the
tributary
roads.
T
That
would
connect
this
site
to
the
rest
of
the
world
and
it
would
create
more
impervious
surface
needing
alternative
drainage
of
both
storm
water
and
flood
water.
That
that's
a
big
concern.
Everybody,
I
think,
is
very
familiar
with
the
with
the
topography
down
there
and
the
fact
that
it
is
waterfront
service
vehicles
for
such
a
use
would
also
experience
difficulty
in
getting
there,
especially
during
times
of
floods
or
other
storms.
T
Currently,
the
city
is
involved
with
both
a
new
comprehensive
plan
and
a
new
strategic
plan.
Hopefully
that
will
be
revealed
somewhat
in
concept
later
this
year
and
that
may
aid
in
identifying
and
updating
areas
that
would
benefit
from
such
projects.
That
would
have
little
or
no
negative
impact
on
the
immediate
areas
around
it,
and
maybe
they
would
galvanize
those
areas
at
the
same
time,
for
more
smart
and
appropriate
growth.
T
T
You
know
twice
before
you
cut
once:
let's,
let's
see,
if
there's
anything
else
that
can
be
worked
out
with
this,
let
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
mature
a
bit
more
and
see
if
this
type
of
project,
whether
it's
in
this
location
or
some
alternative,
be
better
managed
and
integrated
into
our
community.
Thank
you.
S
Now,
a
couple
of
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
before,
but
have
been
brought
up
and
appreciate
mr
hulis
as
an
attorney
bringing
it
up,
but
when
I
first
was
looking
at
this
time,
shares
and
condo
conversions.
S
So,
as
you
heard
miss
kutsuri
to
say
about
how
the
traffic
is
during
the
off
season.
So
five
years,
ten
years
from
now,
we've
seen
projects
get
flipped.
What's
to
say
after
a
few
years
of
managing
this
occupancy
is
down.
S
Big
thing.
One
thing,
I
think,
is
a
problem
that
mr
couscoutis
has
brought
up,
and
a
number
of
you
have
not
getting
all
the
information
ahead
of
time
to
make
a
decision
you're
being
asked
to
give
a
conditional
use
and,
as
it
was
stated
at
the
last
meeting
by
staff,
you
are
conditioning
this
particular
design.
They
may
do
some
changes
here
and
there,
but
your
conditional
use
is
saying
yes,
you
can
go
ahead
with
this
and
your
preliminary
plan.
S
Lastly,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
should
have
been
provided
to
you
with
regards
to
this
project
is
storm
water.
On
saturday
I
rode
my
bike
down
to
the
docks
for
the
hope
ceremony,
flooding
all
over
the
place
and
then
coming
back.
I
came
back
up
a
hope
on
roosevelt
there's
two
looks
like
two
drainage
weirs
that
allow
inflow
and
outflow.
There
was
a
whole
ditch
along
roosevelt.
Mr
seaman
brought
up
a
good
point
about
the
elevation.
It
goes
from
three
to
eight
feet.
S
It
was
mentioned
six
feet
as
the
base,
but
what
are
you
going
to
do?
Are
you
going
to
bring
in
fill
to
bring
it
up
to
six
feet?
Are
you
going
to
cut
part
of
that
hill
out
and
then
bring
in
phil
to
level
it
at
six
feet?
There's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
and
they're
asking
you
to
approve
this
particular
design
on
a
conditional
use
without
you
having
a
lot
of
facts
to
answer
not
only
yourselves
but
the
general
public.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues
on
this.
S
There's
no
reason
why
this
cannot
be
deferred
until
they
can
go
back
and
fix
up
their
plans
to
possibly
reduce
the
scale
and
scope
of
this
you've
made
a
lot
of
points
about
four
stories
and
five
stories
alleyways
shifting
the
parking
lot.
They
can
turn
around
a
couple
months
from
now
and
sell
that
lot.
They
can
say
yeah
well,
we'll,
maybe
look
at
it
for
parking,
but
we
had
an
offer.
They
sell
it
there's
just
too
many
unknowns
for
you
guys
to
prove
it
as
it's
structured
and
presented
to
you
today.
S
B
Eleni
crostopoulos
1402
ford
avenue,
I'm
also
vice
president
of
the
greektown
heritage,
preservation,
association
and
a
property
owner
of
the
sponge
docks
with
significant
amount
of
tourist
properties.
So
it
does
impact
me
and
my
you
know
tenants
prop
as
well.
B
B
B
So
I
would
ask
that
we
consider
deferring
this
until
a
project
of
this
scale
until
those
are
in
place,
and
so
we
can
have
something
to
go
on
and
it
doesn't
because
we
can
look
at
this
today.
You
know
and
then
the
site
plan
can
come
back,
something
totally
different
and.
K
You
know
there's
no
real
way
to
to
guide.
K
B
K
That,
when
we're
talking
about
creating
a
vision
plan
for
the
docs,
there
needs
to
be
something
comprehensive.
B
Created
before
we
do
something
like
this,
so
that
that's
really
my
main
point.
B
N
I
chose
I
tried
to
speak
last
just
to
make
a
point
of
basically
the
support
or
lack
of
lack
thereof
for
this
hotel.
So
I
kept
a
tally
for
the
150..
I
didn't
get
to
see
the
petition.
I
did
not
have
time
to
request
that
public
record
of
the
names
on
there,
but
to
this
meeting
I
I'm
at
zero
right
now
so
of
those
150
people.
N
I
guess
they
didn't
feel
it
was
important
enough
to
show
up
for
the
people
that
spoke
against
it
or
at
least
not
for
it.
I
got
nine
and
I
would
call
all
of
those
people
more
affected
parties
than
anybody
at
the
tarpon
springs
merchant
association.
I
want
to
make
sure
the
attorney
hears
that,
because
it's
not
the
sponge
docs
association,
are
you
listening
ma'am?
N
All
these
people
are
residents.
That
means
they
own
property.
The
tarpon
springs.
Merchants
association
does
not
so
your
support.
While
I
understand
that
you
think
that
you
have
the
support
of
of
the
industry,
you
do
not.
Okay
and
the
people
here
have
spoken,
there's
a
saying
it's
actually
made
into
a
movie.
It's
called
he's
just
not
that
into
you
know.
If
you've
seen
it,
the
tarpon
is
just
not
that
into
you.
So
please
take
the
hint.
B
B
B
N
When
things
get
crowded,
people
will
then
close
off
certain
areas.
So
we're
a
little
concerned
about
that
and
the
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
just
this
part's
just
totally
coming
from
me-
is.
I
think
that
what
happens
in
these
discussions
is
a
lot
of
times.
People
get
wound
up
and
defensive,
and
when
that
happens,
we
kind
of
lose
sight
of
what
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Now,
I
don't
I'm
not
a
politician.
I
don't
know
anything
about
all
of
this,
but
all
I'm
saying
is,
I
agree.
N
I
feel
like
royal,
that
y'all
made
wonderful
effort,
and
I
understand
that,
and
I
agree
with
the
fact
that
we
need
a
hotel,
because
we
all
keep
saying
that,
but
I
also
agree
with
the
fact
that
the
integrity
of
where
we
live
is
trying
to
keep
it
kind
of
the
way
it
felt.
We
all
want
to
do
this
when
we
were
little
okay
and
what
that's?
What
brings
people
here.
So
I
don't.
N
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
quick
to
move
forward,
even
though
it's
not
quick
for
y'all,
because
if
I
was
standing
there
and
I
had
a
lot
of
money
and
I'm
putting
it
into
something.
I
understand
that
that
would
you
know
you're
kind
of
going.
Let
me
move
forward,
let
me
move
forward,
but
if
your
true
heart
is
for
the
people
of
the
community-
and
I
believe
it
is
to
be
okay
with
it,
then
I
feel
like
additional
time
would
need
to
be
put
in
and
not
necessarily,
you
know.
N
If
it
has
a
column,
it
doesn't
have
a
column,
it's
if
it's
this
or
that,
but
just
overall
feeling
how
it
is-
and
I
do
agree
with-
I
never
heard
anything
about
any
kind
of
meeting.
So
if
there
was
sort
of
a
meeting
that,
like
the
other
mints,
had
put
out
there
that
people
could
come
to
and
and
the
other
thing
is,
you
know
we
are
greek,
so
everybody's
gonna
have
an
opinion.
N
So
just
you
just
need
to
know
that
right
off
the
bat
okay,
but
but
all
I'm
saying
is
so
I
don't
want
whenever
this
ends.
I
don't
want
to
end
on
a
yucky
note,
because
I
love
the
people
that
you
know
I
that
are
in
this
room
and
I
and
I
feel,
like
you-
have
a
good
intent
in
it,
but
I
don't
think
it
doesn't
appear
if
it
feels
more
like
we're
doing
this
to
each
other
than
maybe
trying
to
come
up
with
an
answer.
N
B
Panioti
273
roosevelt
boulevard
and
also
600
athens
street.
We
have
a
business
and
I
agree
so
much
with
what
ms
kledakis
just
said.
You've
you
know
done
a
whole
lot
of
jumping
through
hoops
and
trying
to
please
everyone
is
never
going
to
work.
So
I
appreciate
that
but
living
where
I
do.
I
see
every
day
the
flooding
the
traffic
trouble.
B
All
of
that
kind
of
thing.
I
recently
had
to
help
a
delivery
truck
back
up
down,
spruce
street
off
of
hope
street
because
it
was
a
day
an
event
was
going
on,
so
there
was
parking.
Oh
it
couldn't
even
accommodate
a
truck
to
halas.
N
B
People
who
are
going
to
be
coming
to
your
business-
I
just
I,
don't
think
something
that
big
can
fit
there
and
I
hope
that
there's
a
way
to
get
a
hotel,
because,
like
everybody
else,
we
really
need
one,
but
this
one's
gonna
be
tough
for
you,
guys
you
know
and
for
the
community.
So
I
just
don't
think
this
is
it
for
us.
So
thank
you.
P
So
first
I
I'd
like
to
kind
of
defend
or
maybe
explain,
I'm
a
volunteer
for
the
merchant
board.
Every
one
of
our
board
members
volunteer
and
it's
actually
like
a
part-time
job,
and
we
don't
get
paid
for
that.
But
we
do
it
because
we
love
tarpon
springs.
P
P
I
also
do
property
management
and
I
help
put
people
in
rental
units
in
commercial.
Commercial
is
my
prime
concern,
and
I
I
put
people
in
and
out
of
the
same
unit
many
times
because
it's
hard
to
keep
a
business
going
and-
and
if
you
don't
have
people
on
the
street
shopping
eating
enjoying
then
your
your
many
times
your
business
won't
make
it.
So
when
the
opportunity
of
a
hotel
came
the
first
thing
we
did
as
board
members
is.
P
We
met
with
the
hotel
gentlemen,
and
we
went
over
and
looked
at
in
dunedin
at
the
properties
that
he'd
already
created.
We
knew
it
was
a
family-owned
business.
We
knew
that
it
was
it
looked
very,
very
nice.
It
blended
into
a
residential
neighborhood
and
done
even
is
thriving,
and
they
did
a
really
good
job.
It's
a
and
we
knew
that
they
are
they're
committed
to
trying
to
work
with
us.
It
isn't
just
a
big
corporation
coming
in
town
and
then
just
throwing
it
over
to
somebody
else.
P
So
the
next
thing
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
merchants
and
businesses
and
people
in
tarpon
could
know
what
we
have
learned
and
get
information
on
the
hotel
that
is
coming
up
for
a
decision
from
our
city.
So
that's
why
we
put
flyers
out
and
we
invited
we.
We
took
a
flyer
to
every
single
place
in
the
docks
and
every
single
place
downtown,
and
we
handed
them
out
all
during
first
friday
and
everybody
was
welcome.
P
Residents
could
come,
anybody
could
come,
but
we
did
want
our
our
businesses
to
know,
and
everybody
was
in
agreement
because
a
hotel
and
a
place
that
people
would
come
to
was
going
to
make
a
big
difference
for
p
if
you're,
if
you're
opening
a
store
every
day
or
a
restaurant
or
a
business.
That
means
you've
got
people
coming
to
your
city
and
it
makes
a
huge
difference
and
that
that's
why
it's
called
the
merchants
association.
This
is
what
we
do.
P
We
we
try
to
help
and
promote
business.
If
you
didn't
have
a
downtown
and
you
didn't
have
the
docs
with
people
working,
we
wouldn't
look
very,
very
prosperous.
I
mean
no
one
would
want
to
come
and
give
us
a
hotel.
Maybe
they
will
10
years
from
now
when
you
come
up
with
something,
but
that's
why
we
we
really
worked
hard.
We
also
planned
that
if,
if
this
continued
to
go
forward,
we
would
try
to
put
a
meeting
out
at
night.
P
It
was
going
to
allow
us
to
have
a
meeting
so
that
residents
could
come
and
they
came
not
to
hear
about
me.
They
came
to
ask
questions.
It
was
a
question
and
answer
we
weren't
giving
an
opinion,
but
yes,
as
merchant
business
people,
we
feel
it
would
be
better
for
us.
So
I
I
just
hope
that
you
will
at
least
give
this
an
opportunity
to
go
forward
because
right
now
we're
just
doing
for
use.
We
haven't
even
gotten
to
the
site
plan.
Yet
so
I'd
like
you
to
hopefully
consider
us.
J
I
had
never
heard
of
cambria
before
so
I
looked
them
up.
Pretty
big,
pretty
big
company,
most
of
their
hotels,
are
in
big
cities
like
chandler,
arizona,
downtown
phoenix,
phoenix,
arizona,
anaheim,
california,
calabasas
california,
los
angeles,
napa,
sonoma,
denver,
fort
collins,
south
windsor,
connecticut,
washington,
d.c
another
one
in
washington,
d.c
dania,
beach,
fort
lauderdale
miami
there's
one
in
my
madeira
beach,
madeira
beach.
I
see-
that's
probably
the
smallest
city
that
I
can
see
on
here,
orlando
or
in
another
one
airport,
orlando
chicago
many
other
large
cities.
J
What
I'm
seeing
is
that
this
to
me,
isn't
the
right
fit
for
what
we
have
here.
I
think
that
several
years
ago
I
had
the
opportunity
to
go
all
over
greece
and
we
stayed
at
all
the
eu
built
hotels
and
they
built
they
built
them.
According
to
the
island
size,
we
went
to
many
islands
and
the
eu
provided
the
funding
and
they
weren't
high
rises.
There
were
high
rises
in
roads
and,
of
course,
in
athens,
but
they
were
all
boutique
or
maybe
we'd,
say
micro,
hotels.
J
J
Things
like
you
could
rent
a
four-wheeler
from
them
and
ride
through
the
town
in
them
not
saying
that
we
need
to
have
that,
but
that
was
consistent
with
the
area.
They
were
in
areas
that
were
similar
to
what
we
have,
but
they
were
all
hotels
that
were
consistent
to
the
area
and
they
were
by
size
based
on
some
strategic
decisions
that
were
made,
but
the
eu
provided
the
funding
to
help
put
those
together
with
the
idea
that
the
community
would
help
make
it
successful.
J
Now
we
can't
make
it
that
way
here,
but
I
do
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
keep
it
consistent
with
the
the
environment
there
putting
a
big
hotel
there
could
actually
harm
the
sponge
docks.
When
I
drive
people
down
to
the
docks
to
go
to
dinner,
they
say
why
is
pappas's
former
pappas
restaurant
all
respected
the
pappas
family,
they
didn't
close
it,
they
sold
it,
and
somebody
else
did.
Why
is
it
closed?
J
It's
it's
an
eyesore,
seeing
it
like
that,
because
tarpon
is
so
successful
and
we're
such
a
a
big,
a
big
gathering
point
for
people
on
a
daily
basis,
but
I
just
think
that
we
need
to
keep
it
consistent
with
the
community
and
with
the
architecture
that
we
think
is
appropriate
for
what
we
have
already.
I
heard
them
saying:
well,
there's
so
many
different
styles,
there's
bricks.
There's
two
stories
there's
this
in
tarpon.
That
was
then
this
is
now
just
like
mr
hula
said
about
the
the
sponge
exchange.
J
They
tried
to
retain
all
they
could
of
the
original.
I
was
there
before
it
was
torn.
I
was
at
one
of
the
last
festivals.
The
church
had
there.
When
I
first
came
to
florida,
tarpon
has
been
through
a
lot.
Tarpon
went
through
many
changes
from
a
sponge
industry.
They've
tried
to
retain
that,
and
I
think
that
this
could
cost
us
more
than
what
it
could
bring
us
in
tourism
by
by
allowing
it
to
come
in
that
that
tone
they
didn't
go
to
islands
like
that,
I
had
been
put
massive
hotels.
J
They
would
have
folded,
they
would
have
destroyed
just
like
when
I
go
downtown
to
through
to
the
sponge.
Docks
and
people
say
what
happened
to
the
famous
pappas
restaurant
and
you
have
to
explain
that
they
didn't
they
didn't
close
it.
Somebody
else
did
so
it's
it
could
harm
us
more
than
what
we
think
allowing
a
108
room
hotel
there
that
doesn't
isn't
consistent.
Thank
you.
Q
1406
ford
avenue-
and
I
also
own
property
at
the
sponge
docks.
We
have
tenants
at
sponge
ducks
and,
of
course
we
would
benefit
from
hotels
and
from
from
more
people
at
the
sponge
docks,
but,
unlike
the
those
who
didn't
give
their
address,
who
don't
necessarily
live
in
this
town,
I
live
in
this
town.
I
grew
up
with
mrias
and
sons,
we're
a
community,
and
I
can't
you
know
if
it
was
just
after
my
own
self-interest.
Q
I
don't
live
at
the
sponge
docs.
It
doesn't
directly
affect
me,
but
we
have
an
infrastructure
problem.
We
have
flooding,
we
have,
we
don't
have
the
roads
to
support
it,
and
it's
going
to
negatively
affect
the
residents
of
greek
town,
which
are
people
that
you
know.
We
live
we're
a
community.
Here
we
live
together.
Q
This
has
to
work
for
all
of
us.
A
hotel
is
right
for
for
tarpon
springs,
but
you're
charged
with
deciding
whether
or
not
the
conditional
use
of
that
property
adjacent
to
residential
greek
town.
Tarpon
springs
in
an
area
where
there
is
flooding
and
poor
roadway
is
appropriate,
and
the
conditional
use
of
that
property
is
not
appropriate
and
should
be
voted.
No,
we
do
need
hotels,
but
there
are
better
places
to
put
them
where
it
does
not.
Q
It's
not
adjacent
to
residential
greek
town,
and
I
think
we
can
do
that,
and
so
it
is
short-sighted
to
approve
this
property
this
specific
project.
I
know
the
merchants
want
it,
we
want
it.
We
want
a
hotel,
just
not
that
property,
not
this
hotel.
It's
too
big
in
a
spot
where
it
is
going
to
create
more
problems.
That
is
it's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
the
right
thing.
For
the
I
mean
I
don't
speak
for
them,
but
I
think
they're
going
to
find
out
that
they
bit
off
more
than
they
can
chew.
Q
M
Two
emails
that
were
provided
to
us
after
the
packet
went
out,
one
of
which
was
right
into
the
record
as
with
one
of
the
affected
party
members
and
then
the
other
emails
provided
to
the
board
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
That's
all
okay,.
A
C
Can
I
ask
for
parliamentary
yeah
advice?
C
Do
we
have
the
do?
We
have
the
authority
to
defer.
C
F
F
We
appreciate
that,
at
this
point
you've
heard
from
the
applicant
as
to
why
that
wasn't
possible
at
this
point,
but
as
you've
also
heard
from
staff
and
others
to
address
the
infrastructure
issues
and
to
even
get
answers
about
the
infrastructure
issues
that
requires
a
site
plan.
It
requires
a
site
plan
process.
It
requires
an
additional
significant
investment
by
the
applicant
to
go
through
that
process
and
we'd
respectfully
request
that
this
board
recommend
its
approval
to
move
this
process
forward
and
allow
the
applicant
to
have
that
opportunity.
A
We
do
need
to
somehow
craft
a
a
motion
of
some
sort
that
we
can
act
on
prior
to
going
to
open
discussion
on
the
item
and
then
before
we
call
a
vote
I'll
offer
each
board
member
the
opportunity
to
make
additional
comments
before
we
vote.
D
Mr
chairman,
can
I
ask
the
staff
one
question
sure?
Okay,
I
don't
know
who's
going
to
answer
it,
but
I
don't
see
anybody
up
there.
D
You
know
with
regard
to
a
traffic
study,
if
the
traffic
study
reflects
the
fact
that
that
the
the
the
traffic
patterns
would
be
burdensome,
would
that
dictate
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
rooms
or
how?
How
would
that
work.
K
H
K
If
I
understood
your
or
if
I'm
understanding
your
question
correctly
so
right
now,
okay,
based
on
the
the
traffic
numbers
that
the
applicant
has
generated,
they
are
not
required
to
produce
an
additional
traffic
impact
management
or
transportation
management
plan.
K
Because
of
the
conditional
use
aspect
and
abundance
of
caution,
we
are
recommending
that
they
do
a
transportation
management
plan.
So,
okay,
what
comes
out
of
that?
So
if
the
numbers
you
know
would
show
or
if
the
circulation
patterns
show
that
you
are
in
fact
going
to
adversely
you
know
jam
up
the
roadway
network
somehow,
then
there
are
recognized
methods
in
our
code
of
how
you
can
reduce
those
impacts,
so
it
might
be
reduced
number
of
rooms.
It
might
be
something
else,
so
that
is
a
possibility.
Yes,
could
that
answer
it?
Yes,
okay.
H
You
could
during
public
comment
just
like
affected
party.
You
have
the
right
to
ask
them.
We
have
left
public
comment.
He's
closed
public
comment,
so
if
that
is
something
that's
something,
the
board's
gonna
have
to
address
you're
going
backwards
instead
of
moving
the
hearing
forward.
That
was
allowed
then.
But
public
comments
been
closed.
F
A
A
G
C
H
So
at
this
point
since
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor,
it
should
it
should
be
seconded
or
not,
and
if
it
is
seconded,
then
a
conversation
can
happen
and
if
it's
determined
that
that
is
not
the
motion
that
we
want
to
move
forward,
the
board
doesn't
want
to
move
forward
with.
It
can
be
withdrawn,
it
can
be
denied
and
you
can
start
over
if
it
is
not
given
a
second,
then
it
dies
and
someone
else
needs
to
propose
a
motion.
H
E
H
D
D
I
I
would
require
I
would
require
a
traffic
traffic
study,
not
not
recommend.
I
would
require
traffic
study.
I
would
limit
the
the
size
or
the
number
of
of
floors
to
four
and,
in
addition
to
all
the
comments
that
you
made
and
again,
I
would
look
at
a
design
component.
That's
consistent
with
with
the
area
and-
and
I
know
it's
them-
having
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
D
But
but
my
thought
process
behind
that
is
this
people
come
to
tarpon
springs,
they
don't
they.
They
come
for.
The
mystique
of
tarpon
springs,
they
come
for,
they
come
for
the
restaurants,
they
come
for
the
shopping,
they
come
for
the
for
the
history
and
the
culture
and
what
what
otherwise
you
just
gotta
you
just
and
the
working
waterfront.
Otherwise,
you
just
got
a
bunch
of
budget
stores.
D
Okay,
they
don't
come
from
a
bunch
of
stores,
they
come
for
for
everything
else
and
it's
the
stores
that
allow
them
to
sell
their
merchandise,
but
without
that
flavor
that
mystique
that
that
romance
of
tarpon
and
what
tarpon
does
for
for
a
working
waterfront.
For
this,
the
the
history,
the
the
greek
and
african-american
sponge
divers-
without
that
you
got
nothing
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
that's
an
all
difference
to
the
shop
owners.
D
You
got
nothing
so
to
have
a
design
criteria
that
embraces
those
that
that
those
elements
is
is
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
for
design
and
and
so
to
me,
that's
critical.
I
have
if
I
would
see
a
design
element
that
had
five
stories
I
might
be
able
to
embrace
it,
but
that's
just
a
box.
D
I
don't
care
what
color
you
paint
it.
It's
a
box
and
that's
far
from
being
consistent
and
we've
heard
everybody
wants
a
hotel.
I
don't
think
I've
heard
anybody
say
I
don't
want
to
hold.
They
said
a
few,
but
everybody
says
I
want
a
hotel.
Well,
we
want
a
hotel,
okay
and
I
understand
they
have
to
they
have
to
make
it
where
they
have
enough
rooms
to
make
money.
I
understand
the
economics
of
it,
but
we
get
a
one-shot
deal.
D
D
We
have
to
be
very
conscientious
and
we
have
to
be
keeping
in
mind
because
beyond
I
grew
up
down
at
the
sponge
docs,
my
family
home
is
down
at
the
sponge
doctors
two
blocks
away,
I
still
own
property
down
to
sponge
docs.
It
means
that
much
to
make
sure
that
we
get
it
right
this
time,
and
so
I
want
to
add
those
to
the
motion,
and
that's
that's
all
I
got
to
say
about
that
happen.
A
I
would,
I
would
agree
that
that
I
think
the
those
additional
conditions
make
sense
to
me.
Certainly
if
we're
modifying
the
motion
or
starting
a
new
motion,
I
guess
well,
can
we.
C
I
you
know
I
I
I
hope
I
didn't
come
across
that
I
didn't
applaud
his
the
applicant's
desire
to
try
to
work
with
the
community,
because
I
think
he
did
whether
I
think
he
went
as
far
as
as
he
possibly
could.
You
know
that
that
that's
that's
neither
here
nor
there,
but
that's
not
the
issue,
and
the
issue
is
not
whether
he
has
you
know
made
a
great
presentation
or
not.
It
goes
to
what
mr
coscootis
was
saying.
C
My
grandfather
built
the
building
on
624
athens
street
in
before
1920.,
so
I
go
way
back
with
the
docs
the.
What
what
we're
dealing
with
here
is
compatibility.
That's
really
what
we're
talk,
we're
speaking
about
is
compatibility
and
compatibility.
C
You
know
it's,
it's
compelling
compatibility
of
look,
it's
compatibility
of
size,
it's
compatibility
of
location,
and
this
is
a
challenge
spot.
It's
a
challenge.
We
all
know
that
we
all
know
it's
it.
I
went
to
the
hope
street
event
and
you
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
turn
down
roosevelt
and
I
couldn't
because
it
was
flooded
at
what
two
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
or
whatever
time
it
was,
and
it
didn't
rain.
It's
flooded.
C
C
So
it's
important
that
when
we
send
them
this
motion
that
we
incorporate
all
the
concerns
we
have
and
so
that
that
way
they
can
feel
now
we
have
a
board
that
I
believe,
has
a
lot
of
respect
for
us,
so
the
job
we
do
is
very
important
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
hit
on
all
the
conditions
and
I'm
going
to
go
down
the
ones
that
that
are
important
to
me
and
without
them
I'm.
C
I
would
vote
no
on
this
motion
as
it
sits
now,
but
one
is
that
we
limit
it
to
four
stories.
I
know
four
stories
isn't
a
magic
number
of
stories,
but
it
at
least
brings
this
it.
It
tells
the
board
of
commissioners
that
we
care
about
the
scale
they
can
do
something
different,
but
we're
letting
them
know
that
the
scale
matters
and
that's
why
we're
saying
knock
a
floor
off
whether
it's
knock
the
floor
off
knock
two
floors
off
it.
Doesn't
that's
not
the
real
issue.
C
We,
I
think,
it's
consensus
of
most
of
us
that
that
still
doesn't
meet
that
that
standard.
Therefore,
it
needs
to
be
in
our
motion
that
we
send
the
the
message
we
send
to
the
the
board
of
commissioners.
We
need
to
limit.
We
need
some
limitation
language,
like
our
planning
director
said
that
we
could
some
limitation
language
about
that.
Our
out
parcel
that
they're
not
using
it
now
to
get
themselves
more
rooms,
and
then
they
spin
it
off.
So
that's
important
that
we
have
some
kind
of
language
that
get
tells
the
board
of
commissioners.
C
They
didn't
be
aware,
and
they
may
have.
You
know
we
may
craft
it
unsophisticated,
but
they
need
to
be
sophisticated
when
they
finally
make
the
final
decision
for
that
back
to
what
we
had
in
the
original.
C
C
Oh
yeah,
we
can
oh
we've
looked
at
roads
and
there's
there's
places
to
to
fix
it.
I
don't
have
no
clue
how
what
how
you
do
those
fixes
once
that
building
is
made.
I
just
don't
understand,
and
this
thing
needs
to
be
extensive
and
if
it
needs
to
go
out
to
consultants
that
can
really
understand
it
and
do
it,
then
it
needs
to
be
that.
C
But
then,
if
that
traffic
management
study
is
performed,
then
it
needs
to
come
back
here
again
for
us
to
vote
on
it
one
more
time,
because
that's
going
to
impact
very
much
whether
this
project
would
have
ever
passed
us
to
start
with.
We
all
have
major
concerns
about
traffic
and
they
need
to
be
addressed
and
that's
another
message.
We
need
to
send
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
C
E
E
I
I
understand,
as
one
who's
already
brought
up
the
traffic
management
study,
but
as
one
who's
lived
here
66
years
just
about
every
intersection
of
pinellas
avenue
and
dodecanese.
Have
you
been
there
and
seen
what
it's
like
when
we
have
to
wait
all
the
way
past
fulton
to
get
get
get
into
sponge
docks?
Let's
go
down
to
pinellas
avenue
and
tarpon
avenue.
Let's
say
there
was
a
concept
of
a
hotel
down
at
the
spring
by
same
situation,
because
I
live
there.
E
Now,
let's
get
to
what
I'd
like
to
propose
in
addressing
the
architectural
review
committee,
I
heard
from
the
applicants
that
they
went
and
did
their
presentation
with
the
merchants,
and
I
heard
that
there
was
some
people
from
the
architectural
review
committee.
E
I
can't
ask
the
questions,
but
I'll
make
the
assumption.
I
I
assume
that
I
heard
that
what
puzzles
me
is,
did
you
work
with
them
to
ask
you
your
support
with
them,
so
I'd
like
to
propose,
if
I
can,
that
I
make
it
a
requirement
that
the
applicant
has
to
meet
with
the
architectural
review
committee,
it's
required.
E
They
can't
say
no
to
you.
They'll
they'll
sit
down
with
you
work
with
your
team
and
give
you
their
recommendations
because,
as
I
hear
they
don't
have,
they
don't
have
their
their
their
guidelines
yet,
but
they
have
a
pretty
good
understanding
of
what
they
have
up
here
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible.
K
K
E
E
D
E
E
They
seem
to
know
what
they're
talking
about,
but
when
you
put
them
in
a
room
together
with
the
applicant,
the
architect,
I
hope
they'll
do
their
homework
and
not
just
assume
that
it's
what
you
see
around
tarpon
springs.
So
I
trust
you
all,
but
I
think
it's
part
of
saying
we're
going
to
work
together,
volunteers,
which
is
I.e
public,
but
I
respect
your
experience
with
them
and
I
don't
know
if
you
I
have
to
yield
to
the
to
the
lawyer.
H
H
E
E
C
In
all
due
respect
and
all
due
respect
to
my
dear
friend
lifelong
friend
that
we're
sending
advice
to
to
the
board
of
commissioners,
I
don't
think
we
should
send
them
micro
advice
about
who
they
talk
to
about
what
something
should
look
like.
We,
the
board
of
commissioners,
might
want
to
put
together
their
own
panel,
which
might
include
professional
architects
and
and
something
of
that
nature.
C
E
C
Like
we
did
on
the
first
motion
when
it
came
before
it
was,
they
need
to
design
and
conform
to
store
the
historic
standards
how
they
get
there
and
what
the
board
of
commissioners
wants
to
put
together
for
them
to
meet
that,
let's
not
tie
their
hands
to
just
only
meeting
these
folks
they've.
E
C
E
H
H
H
That's,
what's
going
to
be
voted
on
when
the
roll
call
is
taken,
it
was
motioned
and
there
was
a
second.
If
that
passes,
that's
what
we
have
if
it
does
not
pass,
then
someone
else
will
have
to
articulate
a
motion
with
whatever
conditions
or
emotion,
just
to
deny
it
outright
whatever
they
choose
to
do
conditions.
D
H
G
There
are
three
gentlemen
that
have
great.
I
mean
it's
a
fancy
word
trepidation
about
the
design.
Great
good.
Now
is
not
the
time
for
that.
This
is
not
about
design.
Just
hear
me
out,
you
will
all
have
an
opportunity
to
nitpick
to
death
the
design
at
site
plan.
That
is
not
the
purpose
of
this
application.
That's
why,
frankly,
it's
so
vague!
G
G
Height
this,
but
you
know
what
I
heard
out
of
this
right
hand
ear
that
if
the
design
is
good
enough,
I'd
take
five
stories.
I
heard
that,
and
you
know
what
I
think
everyone
would
agree.
I
think
everyone's
gonna
agree
is
that
what
is
presented
on
elevations
is
really
thin
and
pretty
boxy,
but
they're
not
going
to
come
back
with
that
and
that's
why
I'm
going
to
stick
with
the
motion
and
we
can
it
can
die
and
it
can
be
redone,
but
I
just
want
to
go
back.
G
G
I'll
repeat
it
as
soon
as
I
get
right
through
I,
I
would
agree
that
a
detailed
traffic
study
that
request
can
and
should
be
included,
but
we
also
know
that
they
kind
of
make
that
traffic
stuff
up
and
they're
going
to
say
something
like.
Oh,
there
needs
to
be
a
circle
thing,
but
it
should
be
included,
and
then
this
is
my
own
addition
from
what
I'm
listening
and
it
finally
came
clear
to
me.
G
G
There
seems
to
be
a
whole
bunch
of
concern
about
that.
This
is
going
to
be
a
condo
conversion.
I
think
that's
a
red
herring.
These
small
units
in
no
way
shape
or
form
are
ever
going
to
be
flipped
condolized
self.
It's
not
the
right
structure
if
they
were
built
as
apartments.
That
would
be
a
valid
concern,
but
they're
not
apartments.
So
why
would
that
condition.
C
G
G
In
addition,
that
same
parcel
is
investigated
as
use
for
public
parking
to
replace
the
parking
that
may
be
lost
on
hill
street,
limited
public
parking,
three
consideration
of
a
barrier,
both
visual
and
sound,
against
the
adjacent
neighbors
to
the
east
and
along
the
alley
line
and
fourth,
a
detailed
recording
of
restricted.
I
can't
read
my
own
handwriting
at
this
point:
reservation
for
restricted,
limited
ownership,
the
restricted
covenant.
Now
I
can't
give
the
right
verbiage,
but
the
intent
is
that
it
meets
your
request
that
it
can't
ever
be
converted.
I
thought
it
was
red
herring.
G
G
B
H
G
G
D
I'd
like
to
pray
for
emotion,
basically,
everything
he
said:
okay,
okay,
but
I'm
gonna
limit
the
the
height
I'm
gonna
limit
it
to
four
stories.
D
And
I
still
want
to
include
in
there
as
a
recommendation
it
doesn't
have.
Obviously
it
will
review
it
when
it
comes
to
site
plan
approval,
but
I
don't
want
them
to
have
to
go
through
all
that
work
and
spend
all
that
money
to
come
back
with
the
design.
That's
that's!
That's
not
consistent
with
the
area,
so
I
am
going
to
recommend
that
that
the
design
criteria
be
com
compliant
or
compatible
with
the
area.
H
A
H
E
I'm
with
you
almost
all
of
it
on
the
design,
I
am
having
trouble
with
consistent
with
the
area,
because
I
don't
think
our
example
of
greek
heritage
is
limited
to
a
good
handful,
but
not
enough
to.
In
my
opinion.
I
think
they
should
be
able
to
look
beyond
the
area.
Well,
I'm
not
saying
that
yeah,
but
it
does
consistent
to
the
area.
L
K
D
I'll
reference
it
from
what
what
is
provided
in
in
where's,
my
glasses.
A
G
O
J
D
C
You're
right,
I
don't
again
we're
sending
we're
sending
a
message
to
the
board
of
commissioners
that
we
want
this
to
meet
some
cultural
heritage
standard.
They
can
decide
if
they
want
to
put
a
panel
together
whether
they
want
to
use
these
folks,
whether
whoever
they
want
to
use.
Don't.
I
think
it's.
C
D
From
now,
they'd
have
they'd
have
plan
they'd
have
criteria
in
place
if
they
were
building
in
in
saint
augustine,
there'd
be
criteria
in
place;
okay,
how.
E
E
E
A
E
J
C
C
S
C
C
C
D
G
C
A
C
H
H
B
Is
investigate
the
northwest
out
parcel
for
use
as
storm
water
and
investigate
and
number
two
is
investigate
the
northwest
parcel,
as
used
as
public
parking,
consider,
building
a
barrier
on
the
east
property
line
to
protect
residents
from
the
sound
and
view
record.
Recording
of
restrictive
covenants
so
out
parcel
may
not
be
developed
or
sold
and
that
the
building
is
not
allowed
to
change
use
from
a
hotel
limit
the
size
or
number
of
floors
to
four
look
at
a
design
component.
H
R
H
We
do
it,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry.
I
know
everyone
wants
to
stretch
and
take
a
minute
per
your
procedures.
You
cannot
go
past
11
unless
there
is
a
majority
vote
to
do
so.
So
why
don't
we
go
ahead?
If
you
don't
mind
chair
and
make
that
see,
if
someone
wants
to
make
that
motion
and
deal
with
that
before
we
take
our
break.
H
A
H
H
G
B
D
G
D
I'd
like
to
call
us
back
in
order,
as
mr
seaman
indicated,
he
had
a
conflict
in
this
matter.
So,
as
vice
chair,
the
man
has
been
turned
over
to
me,
we're
here
to
listen
on
application.
22-62.
I
This
project
is
something
that
you
all
saw
before.
You
saw
this
in
february
under
application,
21
133,
cypress
trails,
town
homes,
phase,
two,
that
application
and
you
you
all
recommended
denial
of
the
application.
The
applicant
chose
to
withdraw
that
application
and
come
back
with
a
revised
proposal.
I
There
are
two
phases
phase
one
has
been
built
or
is
being
built
now
and
phase.
Two
is
what
we're
looking
at
tonight
and
I'll
go
over
the
history
in
a
second-
and
this
is
just
the
survey
showing
phase
one
under
construction.
There's
actually
more
buildings
part
way
finished
than
that
now
and
then
some
of
the
structures
that
are
being
demolished
in
the
phase
ii
area
to
make
way
for
the
rest
of
the
development.
I
I
The
property
is
allocated
122
dwelling
units
just
on
paper.
Basically,
the
applicant
proposes
to
build
98
dwelling
units
for
a
total
36
units
are
approved
and
under
construction
in
phase
one,
so
phase
two
will
have
62
units.
The
applicants
also
requesting
waivers
for
the
wetland
buffer
area,
the
building
setbacks,
the
building
frontage
facade
staggering
and
the
light
pole
and
signage
design
standards
that
the
city
has
again.
You
saw
this
in
february.
I
This
is
now
a
new
application
and
new
brand
new
proposal.
The
history
of
the
project,
as
mentioned
this
was
originally
processed
under
the
multi-family
zoning
residential
multi-family.
I
I
I
I
The
original
back
in
2014
2015
had
95
units
59
in
units
and
phase
two.
Currently,
the
applicant
would
like
to
build
62
units
in
phase
two
for
a
total
of
98
units,
and
then
we
have
some
other
figures
here.
There
are
no
wetland
impacts,
so
that
was
something
that
we
all
looked
at
last
time
and
the
buffer
impacts
are
different.
We'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute,
I
would
like
to
refer
you
to
page
2
of
12
of
your
staff
report.
I
I
One
of
those
was
a
wetland
impact,
so
the
applicant
has
removed
wetland
impacts
altogether.
The
applicant
has
reduced
the
impacts
on
the
upland
buffer
that
buffers
the
wetlands
they've
reduced
it
to
5585
square
feet.
Staff
would
like
to
see
that
continue
to
be
reduced
down
to
the
original
impact
area
of
4388
square
feet,
and
we
believe
there
are
ways
that
that
can
be
done.
I
I
I
So
here
again
we
have
the
the
whole
area
here,
phase
one
in
blue
phase
two
in
yellow-
and
this
is
focusing
on
phase
two.
The
original
phase,
two
back,
like
I
said
in
2015,
had
59
units.
The
applicant
would
like
to
add
three
more.
This
blue
shows
the
approximate
locations
of
the
three
additional
units
they
would
like
to
add.
I
This
also
shows
one
of
the
items
that
you
all
were
concerned
about.
The
applicant
proposes
a
recreation
area
down
here
in
the
south,
where
the
duke
eastman
is
being
a
dog
park
or
trail,
nor
both
and
the
applicant
proposes
additional
parking
for
residents
and
visitors
with
a
walkway
going
up
to
grand
cypress
avenue.
I
I
I
I
They
haven't
planted
this
area
yet
the
buildings
two
buildings
down
here
at
the
end
are
just
under
construction
now,
so
they
haven't
planted
that
the
arborist
and
I
visited
the
property
last
monday
and
counted
what
was
there
and
all
that
so
the
problem
that
project's
not
finished
so
so
we're
confident
they
can
get
there
between
the
two
phases.
I
I
Business
there
now,
so
it's
it's
suitable
for
development
and
then
the
the
land
use
surrounding-
and
I
can't
remember
if
I
had
a
slide
on
that-
I
did
the
east
and
north
is
really
residential
and
that
consists
of
a
mix
of
single
family
town
homes
different
product
there
over
here
to
the
west,
you've
got
19
the
duke
energy
yard,
medical
offices
and
then
to
the
south
circadia
cemetery.
I
This
easement,
it's
like
it's
about
160
feet
wide
before
you
would
even
get
to
the
town
homes.
The
town
horns
are
oriented
away
from
the
cemetery
we
feel
like
there
would
be
a
pretty
good
buffer
there
for
the
cemetery.
There
is
an
existing
fence
along
here
and
that
assuming
that
will
stay
in
place,
and
that
could
be
something
you
asked
the
applicant
about
that
should
buffer
any
use
from
the
parking.
There
is
a
parking
lot
there
now
just
for
your
information,
so
that's
kind
of
the
surrounding
use.
I
I
I
I
I
So
these
are
the
waivers
we're
looking
at
setback
waivers
and
the
main
reason
would
be
consistency
with
phase
one
and
staff
supports
those
waivers.
The
wetland
setback
would,
in
some
spots
be
zero
feet,
but
we
would
agree
with
that.
That's
the
wetland
buffer,
given
that
they
they
reduce
those
impacts.
I
I
They
have
complied
with
the
rpd
standard
that
you
not
have
more,
that
you
not
have
more
than
eight
units
in
in
a
building,
so
I
think
the
most
they
have
is
seven,
and
then
they
already
have
a
lighting
and
signage
design
at
the
development
they'd
like
to
continue
put
their
lighting
and
signage
in
consistent
with
what
they've
got
there,
which
is
a
decorative
type
product,
and
so
I
think
we
already
went
over
these.
These
are
the
specific
waivers
staff
support
knows,
and
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
project
with
a
number
of
conditions.
I
This
is
a
preliminary
plan
development,
so
you're
generally
going
to
have
a
fair
number
of
conditions
for
them
to
come
back
with
their
final
plan
development.
I
And
then
the
applicant
does
still
need
to
address
public
art.
They
did
appear
before
the
public
art
committee
and
the
artist
and
the
artist's
you
know
work
was
approved,
but
the
specific
proposal.
As
far
as
my
research
on
public
art
committee
minutes
has
not
come
back
to
them,
so
they
need
to
to
do
that
which
they
can
do
all
the
way
up
to
building
permit
and
co.
I
So
they're
encouraged
to
go
ahead
and
start
on
that
and
then
seven
and
eight
it
has
regards
removal
of
all
the
trash
and
debris
and
exotics
and
then
again
requiring
that
the
lighting
and
signage
design
be
consistent
with
phase
one
and
then
they
will
need
to
apply,
and
I
think
they
already,
I
think
they
just
actually
did
apply
today
to
we
would
like
them
to
rezone
phase
one
as
an
rpd
as
well.
I
And
then
staff
in
the
trc
was
pretty
strong
on
requiring
that
faith.
All
the
phase
one
certificates
of
oculus
occupancy
be
issued
on
all
those
buildings.
Before
a
ceo
for
phase
2
is
issued,
so
the
applicant
could
go
with
their
site
work,
they
can
plat
the
property,
they
can
start
vertical
construction,
but
the
idea
is
that
phase
1
be
closed
out
before
phase
two
cos
are
issued
and
then
they'll
need
to
apply
within
a
year
for
their
final
plan
development.
L
D
A
question
would
would
painting
my
house
be
considered
public
art
if
they
came
and
painted.
D
Project
in
all
seriousness,
we
we
we
had
this
application
that
was
withdrawn
and
and
in
that
prior
application
there
were
certain
criteria
that
the
city
had
requested
and
so
are
those
same
criteria
on
this
recommendation.
Now.
I
D
And
they're
they're
because
I
think
last
last
time
they
they
we
just
were
they
were
not
in
agreement
with
the
criteria
as
far
as
satisfying
them.
But
but
at
this
point
the
applicant
isn't
is
in
agreement
with
complying
with
these.
The
the
criteria
that
we
had
before
and
all
these
additional
criteria.
D
And
before
any
buddy
can,
as
far
as
phase
two
is
concerned,
no
co,
like
you
said
no
co,
will
even
be
issued
until
those
certain
criteria.
As
far
as
getting
all
the
ceos
on
phase
one
are
satisfied,
as
well
as
as
the
the
staff
recommendations
as
well.
That's.
I
D
Any
any
comments
or
questions
from
the
from
the
board.
G
C
So,
just
to
irritate
it's
late,
I
can't
speak
the
so
you're
comfortable
that
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
repeat
what
mr
said:
you're
comfortable,
that
all
of
the
issues
that
related
to
the
prior
issue
problems
have
been
resolved
and
that's
why
you're
recommending
approval?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
D
Mr
zen
bells,
do
you
have
any
comments?
No
question.
All
right.
Does
the
applicant
wish
to
say
anything
or
make
a
presentation.
B
Good
evening
bill
conrad
5286
point
sienna
circle,
newport
richie,
I
was
the
planner
originally
in
phase
one,
and
I
just
want
to
just
keep
it
short.
You
know
we,
we
staff
has
been
wonderful
to
work
with.
We
followed
their
directions
in
terms
of
the
way
we
submitted
this
application.
We
realized
we
needed
to
address
issues.
B
We
went
back,
we
worked
with
staff,
we
listened
to
staff,
we
took
their
direction
and
that's
why
we
revised
the
plan
and
came
back
and
addressed
those
issues,
but
basically
we
concur
with
staff's
recommendation
and
their
conditions
and
obviously
we're
going
to
have
to
comply
with
all
of
it
before
we
move
forward.
So
we're
would
definitely
agree
with
that.
So
so,
basically
we're
here
to
answer
questions.
B
E
D
H
H
B
Just
a
couple
of
concerns
one
has
to
do
with
parking.
I
recognize
that
the
plan
hat
shows
overflow
parking,
but
it's
in
a
duke
energy
easement.
What
happens
if
duke
energy
refuses
to
let
us
park
our
cars
there
right
now,
there's
no
parking
allowed
on
the.
F
B
B
B
Found
through
reading
this
application,
we
now
have
as
part
of
the
contract
we
may
as
an
hoa,
have
to
contract
with
a
service
to
provide
monthly
maintenance
of
a
wastewater
lift
station,
which
was
not
something
that
is
being
made
aware
to
the
residents
so
you're,
adding
an
additional
financial
burden
to
potential
homeowners.
That
are
unaware
of
this.
B
Q
Good
evening
it's
certainly
been
a
long
night.
I
want
to
thank
staff
council
and
the
board,
and
I
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
real
quickly.
I
hope
you
give
this
project
and
the
things
we're
bringing
up
the
same
attention
that
you
gave
the
project
before
us
as
in
regards
to
parking
traffic
access
and
water,
of
course,
okay,
because
there
are
issues
we're
going
to
be
when
fully
fully
occupied.
Based
on
our
numbers,
given
in
here
we're
looking
at
2.1
cars
per
resident,
that's
their
numbers,
not
ours!
You're!
Q
Looking
at
100
201
cars
going
out
one
access,
the
additional
access
is
proposed
there.
Okay,
given
the
setbacks,
looking
at
the
the
building,
that's
being
proposed
right
next
to
an
entrance,
that's
not
going
to
be
feasible.
Nobody
in
their
right
mind
is
going
to
be
able
to
put
a
gate
there
or
control
access
in
and
out
that
that's
going
to
be
a
nightmare.
So
all
the
traffic
traffic's
gonna
come
in
and
out
of
one
opening,
and
if
you
go
there
and
take
a
look
at
it
now
you
can
get
two
cars
lined
up
there.
Q
The
rest
will
be
in
front
of
entire
residential
neighborhood.
I
just
you
know
we
want
to
see
phase
two.
Q
We
all
agreed
to
it
the
way
it
was
proposed
originally
in
those
original
drawings
and
in
pictures
that
we
were
presented
at
signing,
we'll
show
you
cul-de-sac,
phase
two
we'll
show
you
lovely
pool,
clubhouse
we're
all
supposed
to
be
by
state
statue
presented
hoa
documents
at
closing.
More
than
half
of
us
were
not,
and
now
that
we're
finally
getting
them
and
looking
through
the
draft
portion
boy,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
that
aren't
aren't
correct
in
there
that
we
need
to
get
some
answers
on
you
know.
Q
The
other
thing
too,
is
the
walkway
from
that
proposed
parking
area.
If
it's
even
approved
along
with
the
dog
park
or
whatever
that's
going
to
be,
you
know,
I
hope
you
take
into
consideration,
get
that
in
writing.
First
from
duke
before
you
consider
it
as
hey.
They
answered
the
question
because
I
don't
think
they
have
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
S
Here
to
lax
514
ashland
avenue,
I'm
going
to
point
you
out
to
a
couple
things:
project,
history
and
current
proposal:
variants
granted
for
deuce
wetland
setback
for
entire
project
now
expired
and
then
also
it
says,
staggered
facade
not
proposed
wetland
setback,
0-15
next,
page
project,
history
and
current
proposal.
Again
wetland
impact
says
zero,
but
the
buffer
impacts
have
increased
again.
S
The
wetland
setback
was
required
of
the
rpd
50
feet,
but
now
minimum
is
zero
feet
just
to
bring
into
the
facts
ldc
78.01
d,
six,
a
minimum
buffer
area
50
feet
from
wetlands,
the
mean
high
water
mark
of
all
water
bodies
and
jurisdictional
lines
is
required
in
cases
where
jurisdictional
lines
do
not
coincide
with
water
bodies.
The
most
restrictive
set
back
shall
apply.
S
Then
it
goes
on
to
say
waivers
for
the
minimum
buffer
area
may
be
considered
by
the
boc
provided
the
location
size
intensity.
The
uses
are
clearly
delineated
on
the
site
plan,
as
it
was
kind
of
previously
mentioned
in
the
previous
hearing.
You
are
the
gatekeepers
part
of
being
the
gatekeepers
is
protecting
the
areas
that
previous
boards
have
said
must
be
requested.
That's
why
we've
got
a
50-foot
buffer
and
also
in
the.
S
If
you
look
at
not
only
their
designs,
everything
is
all
packed
in
and
the
design
that
they
showed
you
with
the
two
additional
lots.
One
last
slide
appears
to
be
intruding
into
the
wetland
area.
S
S
It
says
one
waiver
of
the
50-foot
wetland,
but
also
it
says
the
waiver
of
the
side
yards
reduce
yards.
I
don't
see
the
need
for
that.
The
only
reason
that
is
being
asked
for
is
to
cram
as
many
units
into
there,
which
increases
the
traffic
and
the
visibilities
in
those
areas
also
the
way
the
front
edge
staggering
requirements.
S
I
would
assume
that
lighting
design
standards
were
applied
in
in
the
rules,
so
there
would
be
a
certain
minimum
of
lighting
I'd
hate
to
see
if
the
lighting
design
standards
are
reduced,
such
that
they're
in
an
area
where
it's
a
highly
compacted
residential
area,
but
there's
not
sufficient
lighting,
for
whatever
their
internal
infrastructure
is
my
concern
again.
Also,
as
it's
been
noted,
we've
had
issues
with
this
traffic.
S
D
One
question,
mr
luck,
is
you
had
read
something
about
a
setback
requirement
with
regard
to
wetlands?
Where
did
you
read
that
from.
S
Your
land
development
codes
code,
78.01
d,
six,
in
fact
they
reference
it,
I
think,
also
in
in
the
back
up,
but
that's
the
ldc
that
has
to
do
with
wetland.
Buffers
and
part
of
the
reason
that
was
placed
in
is
to
protect
the
wetlands
in
these
areas
that
are
spotty
and
people
are
infilling
to
encroach
as
much
as
possible.
Thank
you.
D
Does
this
the
this
board
have
any
questions
of
the
of
the
applicant
with
regard
to
some
of
these.
D
I
I'd
have
to
look,
I
think
it's.
I
can
look
that
up
1.4
or
1.5
something
per
unit.
C
The
this
lift
station
that
was
mentioned,
wouldn't
that
be
the
the
liability,
the
responsibility
of
the
applicant.
H
D
D
H
So
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt
public
comment,
but
there
was
no
questions
of
the
applicant,
so
unfortunately
would
be
not.
Unfortunately,
it
would
be
appropriate
to
let
that
the
board
ask
those
questions.
If
there
are
any.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
manuel
lindiakis.
I
live
in
773,
anclote
landings
drive,
I'm
the
developer
of
the
property,
and
if
it's
okay
with
you
I'd
like
to
address
the
ladies
concerns,
number
one,
the
lift
stations
has
been
put
in,
it's
been
operating
and
it
it's
nominal
cost
to
the
hoa.
All
I
do
is
pay
for
the
electric,
so
I
don't
know
what
this
she's
worried
about
some
increased
cost.
With
the
lift
station.
It's
been
reinspected.
T
The
trc
wanted
us
to
double
check
it.
If
you
remember,
and
we
went
and
got
the
everything
tested,
we
got
a
pump
fixed
on
it
and
it's
running
and
it
it
costs
20
bucks
a
month
for
the
electric,
that's
it
and
then
I've
I've
got
the
the
place
that
does
the
I
entered
into
an
agreement
where
they
come
and
maintenance
it
every
three
or
four
months
which
the
city
wanted
us
to
do.
So
that's
been
done.
The
parking.
T
If
you
look
at
the
plans,
we're
we're
going
to
provide
38
additional
parking
spaces
for
the
overflow
and,
yes,
it
is
in
the
duke
energy
easement.
But
duke
energy
is
not
going
to
deny
us
parking
there,
because
it's
there's
been
parking
there
for
over
30
years,
and
the
only
thing
I'm
required
to
to
supply
to
duke
energy
is
is
access.
T
T
G
May
I
just
because
you're
moving
so
fast,
you
said,
if
I
may
be
so
bold
and
politely,
it's
it's
nice
to
see
you
again,
that's
exactly
what
you
said
like
30
or
60
days
ago,
but
where's
that
whenever
anybody
says
never,
that
means
it's
going
to
happen.
So
why
can't
we
get
some
documentation
in
regards
to
that?
What
would
be
so
hard
about?
Having
that
I
mean
even
just
a
copy
of
the
easement.
I
know
you're
a
man
of
your
word,
but
what
can
be
more
and.
T
Duke
energy,
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
think
you
can
get
a
hold
of
them.
It
might
take
them
six
months.
To
give
me
a
letter.
Okay-
and
you
know,
the
only
thing
duke
energy
don't
want
is
a
big,
because
I
asked
them
to
put
a
tennis
court
there.
You
can't
put
a
tennis
court
there,
because
you
gotta
have
a
fence
and
you
can't
put
some
big
trees
in
their
easements.
T
C
Okay,
can
we
put
the
the
picture
up
there
so
because
I
he's
talking
about
things
I
need
to.
T
Yep
and
then,
as
far
as
her
concern
about
the
the
second
entrance,
the
second
entrance
that
we're
providing
is
only
going
to
be
accessible
to
the
people
that
live
there.
Okay,
if
you,
if
you're
coming
to
visit
you're
going
to
have
to
go
to
the
main
entrance,
but
if
you
live
there
you're
going
to
have
a
clicker
and
you're
going
to
come
in
and
out,
you
don't
have
to
back
up,
or
you
know
worry
about
not
being
able
to
use
the
entrance.
T
Okay
question
and
the
other
thing
the
other
thing
that
that
that's
not
correct:
we've
platted
this
thing
like
they
said
in
2015
and
all
the
confidence
and
all
that
stuff
has
been
recorded
since
the
same
time
it
was
planted.
Otherwise
we
would
have
never
got
the
plat.
So
that's
already
been
that's
been
planted.
All
the
rules
and
covenants
are
in
place.
We
are
going
to
make
a
few
changes
to
them.
I
think
the
lawyer
is
going
to
do
them
this
week.
T
You
know
so
that
that
takes
care
of
her
other
little
concern
there.
So,
as
far
as
the
the
setback
they
were,
they
granted
us
the
seven
and
a
half
foot
setback
in
phase
one
and
the
rear
setback
only
applies
to
the
lots
up
against
jasmine,
okay
and
then
a
few
lots
back
there
in
the
back.
The
rest
of
them
are
gonna
can
have
a
30-yard
setback
if
you
needed
it.
T
E
T
Concrete
parking
there
and
then
the
other
ones
that
are
up
against
the
cemetery,
we're
just
there's
gravel
underneath
it
now.
So
I'm
going
to
keep
that
grass
and
then
you
know,
but
there's
gravel,
underneath
it
I'm
not
going
to
pave
that
and
make
it
all
paving
it's
going
to
be
part
grass
parking
and
then
the
other
ones
that
are
already
there
are
concrete
and
I'll
probably
put
some
asphalt
over
that,
but
the
grass
ones
I'm
just
going
to
leave
grass.
T
And
as
far
as
getting
getting
to
the
getting
to
the
parking
spots
between
the
two
buildings,
I'm
going
to
put
a
pavers
to
go
to
the
you
know:
somebody
wants
to
park
their
car,
they
have
to
park
it
and
then
they
can
walk
to
wherever
they're
going
and
then
the
other
thing
is.
T
Mr
dilaque
has
suggested
we're
impacting
the
wetlands
there's
no
wetland
impact
there
was
before,
which
was
was
the
biggest
problem.
We
had.
We
changed
the
plan.
We
took
all
the
wetland
impact
out
the
upland
area
impact
they're
talking
about.
We
got
to
reduce
that's
the
15
foot
buffer
between
the
jurisdictional
line
that
that
she
wants
us
to
reduce
by
five
or
six
seven
hundred
feet,
which
we
should
be
able
to
do
that.
Prior
to
the
final
hearing.
With
the
with
the
plan,
the
commissioners.
G
B
G
G
G
D
D
G
T
D
Is
on
the
plat
yeah,
of
course,
okay,
so
it's
reflected
on
the
plat,
so
it'll
have
a
record
number
number
where
it
is
yeah.
Well,
if
would
progress
or
duke
energy
or
whoever
you
want
to
at
the
time
florida
power
at
the
time
you
when
they,
when
they
acquire
the
property,
it's
subject
to
an
easement?
That
means
they
they
it's
their
property
but
subject
to
duke
energy's
right
to
to
access
that
property,
but
it's
still
the
owner's
property
yeah
so
when
he
conveys
it
to
the
hoa
as
a
common
element.
D
T
The
pool
the
declarations,
if
you
read
them
it
says,
there's
a
I
think,
there's
something
that
says:
a
recreation
facility,
okay
and
then
the
lawyer,
mr
platt,
who
I
mean
not
richard
platty,
is
our
lawyer,
that
does
the
closings
and
all
the
homeowner
stuff
he's
revising
the
hoa
documents
to
to
make
it
current,
whatever
needs
to
be
done
there.
Okay,
so
that's
not
true.
Q
T
Well,
I
don't
know
about
what
you
know,
I'm
not
the
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
was
provided
at
closing
or
not,
but
you
could
go
and
look
at
the
documents
online.
If
you
want
and
print
them
out,
we
would
have
never
got
the
plat
without
the
deck.
You
know
the
hoa
documents
yeah,
but
did
you
provide
at
closing?
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
the
real.
All
I
do
is
sign
the
paper
at
the
end,
and
you
know
the
lawyer
does
the
whatever
they
do.
You
know.
B
D
T
T
Don't
know
what
they
came
up
with
that,
but
there's
plenty
of
water.
I
mean
the
city
has
plenty
of
water
there
I
got.
You
know
a
main
line
that
comes
in
there.
We
also
have
effluent
water,
which
saves
the
community
a
ton
of
water.
So
there's
no
issue
with
the
water.
You
know
we
designed
it
according
to
how
the
city
wants
it.
It's
looped
all
the
way
around,
there's
a
separate
line
for
the
fire
line
that
they
wanted.
I
can
tell
you
about
that.
T
C
Do
you
address
the
mr
delax's
concerns
that
some
of
those
units
are
hitting
the
wetlands.
T
It's
not
true.
None
of
the
units
encroach
to
the
wetlands
there's
a
buffer,
15
foot
buffer,
that's
where
they
came
up
with
that
4
000
or
5
000
square
foot,
where
we
encroached
into
the
15
feet,
and
we
mitigated
by
that
we
gave
them
we're
giving
them
back
twice
as
much
for
that.
But
the
plan
that
we
came
to
you
guys
before
we
were
encroaching
5
000
feet,
6
thousand
square
feet
into
the
wetlands.
T
G
I
have
one
one
one
more
question:
please
thank
you
for
your
patience
in
answering
all
the
questions.
So
the
the
young
lady,
which
I
assume
was
an
owner,
was
also
concerned
about
lift
station
okay
and
give
me
a
minute
before
you
respond
so
get
get
it
right
is
her
concern
was
about
additional
cost
to
the
hoa
right,
lift
station's
there.
You
built
it.
It's
been
recently
repaired.
It's
been
inspected,
but,
as
I
understand
it,
that
lift
station
is
going
to
become
a
common
element
in
the
future.
G
Yes,
okay
and
then
there
is
a
chance
that
that
lift
station
is
going
to
need
some
maintenance
or
inspection
or
maybe,
unfortunately,
a
new
motor
10
years
down
the
road,
and
that
would
be
a
cost
that
would
be
borne
by
the
whole
community
through
their
hoa
fees.
True,
okay,
so
it
strikes
me
as
curious
and
I'm
looking
at
staff
in
a
pud,
and
I
happen
to
live
in
one
there's
a
lift
station
there,
but
the
city
of
tarpon
springs
owns
it
in
maintenance,
it's
wonderful.
They
just
show
up
and
work
and
fix
it
and
stuff.
T
D
K
K
D
D
T
The
other
thing
she
brought
up
is
true
that
the
public
art
requirement
we
haven't
given
them
a
plan.
Yet
because
I
was
waiting
to
finish
phase
two
and
I'm
going
to
probably
put
the
public
art
on
the
solid
walls
on
both
sides
of
the
property.
So
we
haven't
given
them
the
the
actual.
T
You
know
design
of
that,
but
we
do
have
the
the
artist
on
board
and,
yes,
I
don't
know
who's
required
to
maintenance
it,
but
it's
probably
going
to
be
the
hoa,
and
that's
not
my
my
fault,
that's
what
the
city
says
unless
the
city,
because
it's
public
art
is
required
to
maintain
it.
I
mean
I
don't
know
the
answer
who
maintains
it
but
yeah.
D
D
The
rules
that
at
this
point,
unless
there's
any
questions
or
comment,
any
public.
H
Questions
so,
but
they
had
their
chance
to
comment.
It
was
always
it
was
addressed.
Their
comments
were
addressed
by
the
applicant.
I
think
it's
time
to
ask
staff
if
they
have
any
questions
of
the
applicant.
Since
the
applicant
got
to
present
some
additional
information,
and
perhaps
then
we
can
close.
D
No
question:
is
there
any
correspondence
that
have
we
received
on
this.
H
G
G
G
G
E
G
Chair
I'd
also
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
defer
the
oh
he's
coming
back.