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A
A
Call
to
order
the
august
22nd
normal
meeting
of
the
planning
and
zoning
board
for
tarpon
springs.
Can
we
have
a
roll
call?
Please?
Mr.
B
A
D
D
A
E
This
is
the
quasi-judicial
proceeding
where
the
board,
the
planning
and
zoning
board
in
a
positive
duty.
I'm
sorry,
let
me
start
over.
This
is
a
quasi-just,
a
proceeding
with
a
planning
and
zoning
board
and
a
quasi-judicial
rather
than
a
legislative
capacity
at
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
It
is
not
the
board's
function
to
make
law,
but
rather
to
apply
law
that
has
already
been
established
in
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
E
The
board
is
required
by
law
to
make
findings
a
fact,
based
upon
the
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
apply
those
findings
of
back
to
previously
established
criteria
contained
in
the
code
of
ordinances
in
order
to
make
a
legal
decision
regarding
the
application
before
it.
The
board
may
only
consider
evidence
at
this
hearing
that
the
law
considers
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
to
the
issues.
E
If
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
met
the
criteria
established
by
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
in
favor
of
the
applicant.
By
the
same
token,
if
the
competent,
substantial
and
relevant
evidence
at
the
hearing
demonstrates
that
the
applicant
has
failed
to
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
code
of
ordinances,
then
the
board
is
required
by
law
to
find
against
the
applicant
at
this
time.
E
I'd
ask
the
board
if
there
have
been
any
expertise,
communications
with
any
of
the
applicants
seeing
none.
I
will
then
ask
if
there's
any
conflicts
of
interest
with
any
of
the
applications.
I
will
note
that
mr
cooley,
honest
yeah,
I
want
to
get
that
right
and
I
have
already
spoken
application
number
two
tonight.
You
have
a
conflict
on
correct
yeah.
C
I
I
own
the
piece
of
property
across
the
street
from
the
subject
property
being
brought
up,
and
it
probably
best
that
I
recuse
myself,
even
though
I
have
no
issue
with
with
the
it's
the
ordinance,
the
application.
I
just
think
it's
best.
Okay,.
E
A
F
Yes,
alley
keen
planning
and
zoning
the
subject
property
is
located
here
outlined
in
yellow
on
the
screen.
It's
on
the
north
side
of
west
orange
street,
just
west
of
north
pinellas
avenue.
This
property
is
located
within
the
city's
special
area
plan,
which
is
all
of
the
area
highlighted
in
gray
on
the
screen.
So
it's
surrounded
by
the
special
area
plan
to
the
north,
east
and
south
and
then
to
the
west.
There
is
residential
office
zoning.
F
The
applicants
are
proposing
to
display
plants
on
three
10
by
10,
shade
structures
that
will
be
within
the
yard
area
of
the
subject.
Property
and
the
only
site
modifications
they're
looking
to
do
is
to
expand
the
existing
parking
area
to
accommodate
five
parking
spaces
in
one
accessible
parking
space.
The
existing
building,
that's
on
site
will
just
be
used
for
office
and
storage
space,
not
for
retail
sales.
F
This
is
an
area
photograph
of
the
subject:
property
the
proposed
plant
display
structures
are
the
three
green
squares
here
in
the
front.
The
blue
area
is
highlighting.
The
existing
parking
area
will
expand
that
to
accommodate
additional
spaces,
and
the
existing
structure
on
the
property
which
is
currently
used
for
residential
purposes
is
at
the
very
rear
of
the
property
and
will
be
again
used
for
office
and
storage
space.
F
F
Again,
this
is
within
the
city's
special
area
plan,
specifically
the
downtown
character
district.
The
intent
of
that
district
is
focused
on
tarpon
avenue,
which
is
considered
the
main
street
for
the
community
redevelopment
area.
The
suggested
uses
for
this
district
are
intended
to
promote
retail
development
and
encourage
medium
density
and
mixed
use,
residential
density
or
development
to
support
the
retail
along
tarpon
avenue
in
the
downtown
character
district
is
all
this
area
highlighted
here
in
yellow.
F
In
regards
to
the
review
criteria
for
conditional
use
with
conformance
the
land
development
code,
the
proposed
use
does
not
require
any
significant
or
permanent
modifications
to
the
property.
Any
future
improvements
would
be
required,
as
always
to
meet
the
standards
of
the
smart
code
in
the
florida
building
code.
If
they're
applicable,
the
property
is
located
within
the
downtown
character
district,
which
again
promotes
retail
establishments
and
a
mix
of
uses.
F
The
use
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
as
well
as
a
special
area
plan.
The
property
is
located
in
the
city's
historic
district.
However,
again
the
applicant's
not
proposing
any
modifications
to
the
existing
building
and
there
are
no
significant
property
improvements.
The
proposed
use
is
temporary
in
nature
and
is
not
expected
to
have
any
adverse
impacts
on
the
historic
district.
F
The
site
is
buffered
fairly
significantly
from
existing
landscaping
and
mature
trees
along
the
west
property
line,
and
the
property
to
the
east
is
actually
owned
by
the
apple
or
operated
by
the
applicant,
which
is
a
retail
store,
and
it's
not
for.
We
do
not
intend
to
have
this
expected
to
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
surrounding
property
values.
F
The
proposed
use
does
not
require
any
extension
or
new
public
services,
and
again
this
project
does
make
use
of
an
existing
developed
property
within
the
downtown,
and
it
does
enhance
and
carry
out
the
intent
of
the
special
area
plan
with
that
staff
would
recommend
approval
of
resolution.
2022-28
granting
conditional
use
approval
for
the
operation
of
a
garden
center
within
the
t5d
transact
zone
staff
does
have
three
recommended
conditions
of
approval
which
are
outlined
here
on
the
screen.
F
The
first
is
that
merchandise
shall
be
limited
to
plants
and
typical
garden
supplies,
specifically
excluding
bulk
storage
of
mulch,
soil,
rock
shell
and
other
items
of
that
nature
and
shall
not
include
in
it
should
not
include
yard.
Decor,
the
second
is
the
applicant
must
obtain
any
necessary
building
permits
for
the
change
of
occupancy
type
for
the
existing
building
and
number
three
on-site
signage
would
be
required
to
be
reviewed
by
the
heritage
preservation
board.
G
Yeah
to
eliminate
the
the
other
thing,
I'm
familiar,
I'm
real
familiar
with
the
property.
Actually,
there
used
to
be
a
house
where
it
was
before.
I
remember
when
it
burned
down.
I
used
to
stay
during
the
summers,
but
that
the
the
house
that
that
property
occupies
is
not
a
historical
home.
G
F
So
pat
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
any
new
signage
is
required
to
go
to
the
heritage
preservation
board,
regardless
of
the
structure
being
contributing
or
not
contributing.
If
it's
in
the
historic
district,
it's
under
that
purview.
I
H
F
F
H
Heritage
preservation
board-
and
I
see
her
approaching,
but
before
you
answer,
we
recently
passed
a
tomb
of
a
sign
ordinance
that
is
so
complex.
It's
almost
impossible
to
read
and
virtually
unenforced
that's
my
opinion,
so
they
have
to
go
through
that
tomb
first
and
meet
all
those
and
then
submit
to
the
preservation
board.
And
now
the
young
lady
gets
a
chance.
J
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
the
signs
in
the
historic
district
are
more
related
to
the
ambiance
of
the
district.
That's
kind!
Do
you
see
what
I
mean,
that's
kind
of
what
they're
aiming
for
is
that
signs?
First
of
all,
you
are
right.
They
go
through
the
sign
code.
The
signs
have
to
be
smaller,
that's
for
starters,
but
right
now
the
way
code
is
written.
Heritage
preservation
board
is
supposed
to
look
at
all
of
them.
J
J
Yes,
for
example,
you
know
they
don't
want
a
huge.
You
know,
weird,
maybe
big.
H
So
so
I'll
just
a
couple
more
short
questions,
so
the
heritage
preservation
board
does
not
get
to
weigh
in
on
the
verbiage
or
certain
things
that's
going
to
be
handled
by
the
new
sign
ordinance
they
get
to
weigh
in
on
whether
or
not
it
fits
the
character
or
the
design
of
the
area
correct.
Would
that
be
fair?
Yes,.
F
H
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
have
a
actual
question.
There
was
a
specific
verbiage
about
limiting,
I
don't
mean
to
yell.
H
F
This
was
suggestion
of
the
staff
as
an
as
a
condition.
I
know
in
the
application.
The
applicant
did
indicate
that
they
were
not
going
to
have
yard
decor
with
this
display,
but
I'll
defer
to
the
applicant
to
respond
with
that.
But
that
was
a
staff
recommendation.
It's
not
from
any
sort
of
specific
code
or
anything.
H
Can
I
drill
into
that
a
little
bit
yard
decor
could
mean
anything
to
anyone
else.
It
could
be
a
pot.
It
could
be
a
cute
little
sign
that
says.
Come
here,
I'm
concerned
about
this
being
excluded
from
the
applicant,
meaning
that
and
again
you
could
defer
to
the
applicant
we'll
hear
from
them
that
it
really
restricts
them
to
absolutely
only
plants
and
which
is
fine
if
that's
their
design,
but
I
I
think
it
seems
too
aggressive
to
say
just
yard
decor,
because
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
that
could
mean
now
sure.
H
Do
we
not
want,
perhaps
them
selling
those
plastic
lawn
chairs
fair
enough,
but
for
a
plant
place
not
to
be
able
to
put
pots
in
or
things
that
are
associated
with
plants
like
little
trellises.
That
could
be
considered
yard
decor.
D
H
F
Was
difficult
to
put
into
words
so
it
can
be
clarified,
it
can
be
much
more
lenient,
but
with
the
typical
garden
supplies
we
were
more
so
getting
at.
I
think
pots,
trellises
small
things
that
you
typically
would
have
is,
we
think,
is
appropriate.
The
yard
decor
is
more
so
we're
looking
at.
You
know,
decorations
like
sometimes
there's
statues
or
metal
yard
art.
Those
types
of
things
is
what
staff
was
recommending
not
be
permitted
at
this
location.
But
it's
up
to
the
board
and,
like
I
said,
the
applicant
can
probably
elaborate
on
their
intent.
H
F
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
staff.
Recognition
is
a
condition,
so
we're
saying
we
believe
that
a
you
know,
small
garden
center
with
outdoor
plant
sales
and
typical
garden
supplies
is
appropriate.
We
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
have
outdoor
display
of
merchandise
outside
of
that,
such
as
you
know,
metal
art
statues,
things
of
that
nature,
like.
H
K
That's
the
end
of
my
questions.
I
have
a
question:
what
they're
parking,
they're,
so
they're
saying
that
they're
expanding
two
spaces
to
five
spaces?
Are
these
spaces
actually
gonna
be
like
wide
spaces?
Because,
like
me
personally,
I
know
when
I
go
pick
up
plants.
I
don't
pick
it
up
in
my
car.
I
pick
it
up
in
a
truck.
Are
these
going
to
be
actually
or
they're
not
going
to
be
like
compact
spaces,
they're,
actually
going
to
be
larger.
F
So
the
code
would
just
require
a
typical
parking
space
size
which
is
9x18,
but
again
I
can
defer
the
applicant
on
their
intent.
They'd
have
to
go
through
a
site
plan
process
just
to
get
that
approved
a
minor
site
plan
process.
A
C
John
hi
ginger,
another
disclosure,
ginger's
son
nick,
is,
in
all
intents
and
purposes
a
member
of
my
family
so
and
he's
a
wonderful
young
man.
Thank
you
anyways,
but
I've
cleared
that
that's
not
a
conflict
in
this
case.
So
this
this
again,
these
are
our
recommendations
of
staff.
J
C
K
Majority
95
is
plants,
but
I
do
have
wind
chimes
occasionally.
I
also
might
have
a
bird
feeder
things
like
that,
but
they're
hung
within
the
plants.
The
hanging
plant.
C
C
C
Yeah
all
right,
but
do
you,
but
do
you
think
that
that
line
in
any
way
would
hinder
you
from
being
able
to
to.
C
We
can
always
suggest
that
that
be
excluded.
What
what's?
How
about
the
security
like?
Do
you
take
the
plants
in
every
night
or.
K
No
we're
going
to
put
a
camera
system.
What
I
have
found,
because
I've
sold
plants
for
decades
is
most
people
that
love
plants
are
not
thieves.
So
for
the
most
part
there
hasn't
been
an
issue,
so
a
good
camera
system
that
could
even
alert
me
at
home.
I'm
around
the
corner.
C
But
you
have
a
similar
business
down
the
street,
so
you're
you're
you're
used
to
this.
I'm.
K
C
And
it's
a
it's:
it's
a
nice,
your
yard,
business
is
really
nice
and
pretty,
and
it's
well
attended
and
taken
care
of.
So
I
would
assume
you're
going
to
do
the
same
thing.
Absolutely
as
beautiful.
G
G
E
G
B
H
Okay,
hi
I'm
I'm
justin,
hi,
justin
and,
and
I'm
and
I'm
desperately
ginger
yes,
miss
miss
ginger.
I
wanted
to
get
your
name
right
would
would
you
prefer
to
have
the
ability
to
have
some
garden
style
accessories
available
with
your
plants
per
say?
Maybe
some
pots
or
such.
K
K
We
like
the
idea
of
keeping
our
businesses
completely
different,
bringing
customers
to
different
businesses
because
they're
going
to
see
something
different,
so
my
main
thing
is
going
to
be
plants
with,
maybe,
like
I
said,
a
few
wind
chimes
or
bird
feeders
small
pots
only
like
orchid
pots,
but
we're
not
planting
any
big
pot
displays,
because
that
also
adds
to
some
security
issues.
So
that's
why
it's
not
in
the
business
plan.
Okay,.
A
A
Seeing
none,
we
don't
have
anybody
by
zoom
or
anything.
I
assume
either
all
right
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
then
I'll.
G
With
the
following
conditions,
I
would
redefine
what,
with
the
condition
number
one
to
include
yard
accessories,
which
would
include
pots.
If
you
ever
decide,
you
want
pots
bird
feeders,
wind
chimes,
but
to
exclude
yard
art,
and
that's
you
know.
I
know
this
will
be
hard
to
do
to
police
but
to
exclude
the
art,
the
yard,
art
so
motion
to
approve,
with
with
with
the
city's
recommendations
as
far
as
as
far
as
I've
amended
them.
C
So
mike,
I
I
think
if
we
exclude
that
last
those
last
one
two
three
four
five
six
words
and
shall
not
include
yard
decor.
If
we
exclude
those
and
then
you
want,
I
don't
quite
understand
your
okay.
G
J
G
That
yard
art
shall
be
excluded.
In
other
words,
what
you
see
on
alternate
an
altar
19
across
the
ball
mom.
Is
that
those
big
metal
structures?
You
know
the
yard,
that
yard
art
yard
accessories,
which
would
include
bird
feeders
pots.
Wind
chimes
things
that
you
would
typically
put
in
in
accessorizing
your
yard
or
your
garden.
C
It
in
a
category
of
understand
that
that
the
applicant
has
a
a
location
on
alternate
19
that
sells
those
kind
of
things,
and
so
she
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
bring
them
to
that
location.
Yeah
well,.
G
C
D
A
B
A
A
F
Yes,
alley
keen
again:
okay,
this
property
is
located
at
the
intersection
of
north
ring
avenue
in
east
orange
avenue
outlined
in
yellow
here
on
the
screen.
F
F
As
you
may
all
recall,
this
property
is
currently
in
the
process
of
being
rezoned
and
amending
the
land
use
to
incorporate
this
property
into
the
city's
special
area
plan
within
the
special
area
plan,
they're,
looking
to
go
to
the
downtown
character
district
and
the
t4a
transect
zone,
hotels
are
a
conditional
use
within
the
t4a
transect
zone,
which
is
why
they're
here
for
you
today,
they're
proposing
again
to
use
the
existing
structure
on
site
within
the
existing
footprint
as
a
hotel,
they're
looking
to
do
an
eight-room
hotel
that
will
have
a
small
lobby
and
reception
area
again
within
the
historic
two-story
structure
and
the
existing
single-family
home.
F
That's
also
on
the
property,
will
remain,
as
is
just
an
overview
of
the
site.
Again,
there's
two
historic
structures
on
the
property.
The
structure
to
the
north
is
an
existing
single
family
home.
That
is
a
contributing
historic
structure.
It
was
moved
to
that
location
for
the
construction
of
the
carriage
townhomes
across
the
street.
Back
in
2015.,
the
historic
structure
to
the
south
is
again
contributing
to
the
district
and
was
identified
as
a
livery
stable
on
the
1909
and
1913
sanborn
maps
in
1926.
This
structure
was
previously
a
hotel.
F
The
scotia
or
scodia
hotel
and
later
was
used
as
apartments
and
other
residential
uses.
Right
now
it
is
currently
vacant
and
the
applicants
are
looking
to
restore
historic
use
of
the
property
within
the
downtown
character
district.
It
allows
for
a
density
of
50
lodging
rooms
per
acre,
looking
at
the
size
of
this
property
and
also
accounting
for
the
existing
residential
use
on
the
property.
They'd
be
allowed
a
maximum
of
14
rooms.
F
They
are
only
proposing
eight
rooms.
At
this
time.
The
applicants
did
provide
an
overview
of
the
hotel
operations,
which
was
a
part
of
their
application
packet.
They
stated
that
the
owner
and
operator's
office
and
maintenance
department
will
be
located
across
the
street
at
201
east
center
street.
Their
business
model
implements
a
self-check-in
kiosk
in
lieu
of
a
staff
lobby.
F
F
The
smart
code
typically
requires
a
minimum
of
one
parking
space
per
lodging
unit.
However,
the
code
also
has
a
provision
that
states
that
the
adaptive
reuse
of
existing
structures
and
sites
is
not
required
to
provide
any
additional
parking.
However,
the
applicant
does
acknowledge
that
parking
is
important
to
provide
for
this
particular
use,
so
they
are
looking
at
putting
parking
at
the
rear
of
the
property.
F
This
is
just
looking
at
the
surrounding
character
districts
within
the
special
area
plan.
Again,
this
property
is
proposed
to
go
into
the
downtown
character
district,
which
is
the
area
here
in
yellow
surrounding
uses,
is
really
a
mixture
of
uses.
There's
residential
uses
office
uses
and
retail
uses,
and
again
it's
one
block
north
of
the
downtown
main
street.
F
All
interior
renovations
and
modifications
will
comply
with
requirements
of
the
florida
building
code.
The
proposed
project
isn't
proposed
to
be
incorporated
within
the
downtown
character
district.
The
special
area
plan
again
is
only
one
block
north
of
tarpon
avenue,
which
is
the
district's
focal
point.
The
downtown
character
district
is
intended
to
promote
retail
development
and
mixed
use
to
support
the
commercial
entities
on
tarpon
avenue
and
a
small
lodging
facility
within
walking
distance.
The
downtown
core
is
consistent
and
carries
carries
out
the
overall
intent
of
that
character.
District.
F
This
use
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
the
special
area
plan.
As
stated
previously,
both
structures
on
site
are
classified
as
contributing
historic
structures.
All
exterior
modifications
would
require
heritage
preservation,
board
review
and
approval,
and
the
proposed
use
will
not
negatively
impact
the
historic
significance
of
the
structure.
It's
rather
restoring
a
former
historic
use
of
the
property
as
a
hotel.
F
F
F
The
second
is,
the
hotel
should
be
limited
to
a
maximum
of
eight
rooms.
The
third
a
site
plan
must
be
submitted
with
one
within
one
year
of
the
conditional
use,
approval
and
fourth,
the
applicant
must
obtain
all
necessary
building
permit
and
heritage
preservation
board
approvals
for
the
proposed
building
and
site
modifications.
A
F
So
that
so
that
structure
would
be
able
to
be
any
permitted
use
that
the
transit
zone
would
allow
in
the
future
if
it
changed
from
single
family
if
it
were
to
be
hotel.
That's
an
expansion
of
this
request
and
they'd
have
to
come
back
to
have
additional
rooms
to
utilize
it
for
lodging
but
say
that
it
changed
from,
and
I
don't
have.
The
use
table
in
front
of
me
say
that
it
allowed
for
a
small
retail
in
that
transact
zone
say
that
went
from
single
family
to
a
retail
and
it's
permitted
use
by
right.
Then.
F
H
So
let
me
ask
the
question
in
a
different
way:
is
the
intended
use
and
the
intention
of
these
ordinances
that
that
home
remains
and
used
as
a
single
family
home
in
perpetuity,
or
is
the
door
left
wide
open
for
that
home
to
be
converted
at
a
later
time?
That
maybe
should
be
part
of
this
application?
Now.
F
Both
of
those
structures
are
on
the
same
property
and
they're
both
proposed
to
be
rezoned
and
incorporate
the
special
area
plan.
So
in
the
future,
if
it
gets
rezoned,
anything
that
potentially
is
allowed
in
that
district
could
go
into
that
structure
if
it's
permitted
or
if
it's
a
conditional
use
they'd
have
to
go
through
this
process.
G
Every
time
you
ask
a
question,
it
makes
me
ask
a
question:
please,
okay,
I
guess
my
concern
is
density.
I
think
that's,
maybe
where
you
were
going
where,
where
you're
using
the
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
density
for
that
area
is,
but
you're
using
most
of
the
density
on
the
proposed
hotel
and
then
the
question
becomes,
if
that
was
ever
separated
because
are
there,
I
think
there's
two
separate
lots
that
these
properties
sit
on
correct.
It's
not
one.
One
could
do
one
lot
historically,.
G
They're
two
lots:
okay,
so
my
concern
is,
and
you
know
the
density
if
we
limit
you
know,
you
know
right
now.
What
is
what
would
be
the
density
sure.
F
So
let
me
try
I'll
try
to
explain
it
in
a
couple
ways.
So
if
this
was
looked
at
being
straight
residential,
forget
the
the
hotel
based
on
the
size
of
that
property
and
the
density
that's
allowed
for
that
character
district.
They
could
have
a
total
of
five
dwelling
units
right
now,
there's
one
in
the
single-family
home.
So
theoretically
there's
four
units
up
for
grad.
If
it
was
straight
residential,
the
code
allows
for
something
called
density
averaging
so
for
our
hotel
and
that's
for
mixed
use.
F
F
What
we
did
for
the
calculating
of
the
hotel
for
that
averaging
is
we
take
out
the
single
family
home?
That
square
footage
and
whatever's
left
over
is
what
the
density
could
be
applied
to.
So
it's
an
averaging
now
in
the
future.
If
say,
they
want
to
split
that
property
and
have
the
house
be
separate,
we
would
have
to
look
at
it
and
say:
okay
well,
can
what's
proposed
the
existing
lot
that's
left
over.
Can
it
accommodate
the
eight
lodging
units
and
can
the
remaining
lot
accommodate
one
dwelling
unit?
F
We
would
look
at
that
as
well,
because,
right
now
this
is
looked
at
as
a
site
as
one
development
site.
If
they
were
to
be
separated.
We
have
to
look
at
all
aspects
to
make
sure
that
when
they're
separated,
everything
is
accounted
for
and
whenever
a
property
is
proposed
to
be
split.
It
comes
through
our
review
process.
H
And
ally,
I
actually
owe
you
an
apology.
I
didn't
read
all
the
way
through
what
you
supplied,
because
there
is
a
response
to
questions
supplied
by
the
owner's
representative.
Last
page
in
quotation
clarify
the
existing
single
family
home
at
108.
North
ring
avenue
will
remain,
as
is
in
quotation
and
I'll
read
their
response.
The
parcels
have
been
combined
and
the
two
structures
are
owned
by
a
single
entity.
We
have
no
plan
to
modify
108
ring
avenue,
so,
in
effect
the
applicant
has
said
we're
not
changing
the
house.
It's
supposed
to
stay,
as
is.
I
Good
evening,
everyone,
I
guess
not
a
technically
a
formal
presentation,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
of
an.
I
Please
buena
vista
drive
to
eden
florida.
This
project
I
mean
this
building
itself
has
been
a
building
that
I've
been
looking
at
for
the
last
30
years.
It
was,
as
ali
said,
originally
built.
I
guess
from
what
I
from
what
we
gather
as
a
stable.
I
It
was
some
time
or
another,
a
hotel,
a
scotia
hotel
and
then,
when
ingrid
jones
purchased
it
with
her
husband
who
actually
was
in
the
state
department.
I
It
wasn't
really
with
a
particular
plan
except
to
clean
it
up
because,
like
you
know,
I
said
I've
been
here
for
for
a
long
time.
We
looked
at
various
options
we
had.
You
know
ed
hoffman
make
some
sketches.
We
looked
at
just
not
going
for
any
sort
of
entitlements
and
contrib
converting
the
delivery
stable
into
four
apartments.
I
Some
made
sense,
some
didn't
we
looked
at
doing
it
as
four
townhomes
and
try
and
squeeze
them
in
and
put
new
doors.
On
the
north
side.
We
looked
at
having
separate
uses
a
cafe
on
the
first
floor
and,
and
you
know,
maybe
one
or
two
apartments
on
the
second
floor,
none
of
that
seemed
special.
None
of
that
seemed
like
it
would
do
justice
to
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
this
building.
I
I
With
that,
I
asked
ed
hoffman
to
kind
of
do
a
layout
for
hotel
use
and
he
came
up
with
the
eight
units
I
mean
we
could
have
made
smaller
units
and
made
it
like
a
hostel,
and
you
know
maximized
the
hotel
entitlement
of
14,
I
think
hotel
rooms,
but
for
this
to
succeed
it
needs
to
be
done
right.
I
You
know
it
has
to
be
something
that
someone
is
willing
to
pay
a
premium
for
and
come
it's
going
to
be
technologically
cutting
edge
where
the
guests
will
come
in
and
you
know
it'll
be
fairly
standalone,
but
I
will
of
course
my
office
is
across
the
street
and
the
single-family
home
we
combined
the
parcel
partly
for
the
density.
You
know
I
do
have
in
my
head
that
a
care
care
taker
home-
maybe
that's
where
I'd
work
out,
something
there,
but
not
that
I
would
want
it
to
be
a
condition
of
this.
I
You
know
anything
you
know
so
right
now.
That's
the
plan
like,
like
we
said
in
in
our
presentation
or
our
submission,
any
change
to
that
plan
which
may
happen
you
know,
and
one
day
down
the
road
would
have
to
go
through.
I
imagine
the
same
approval
process,
so
I
don't
see
you
know
kind
of
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
on.
I
You
know,
but
ultimately,
the
purpose
of
all
this.
You
know
and
I'm
trying
real
hard
not
to
make
it
a
passion
project,
because
people
go
broke
on
passion
projects.
But
you
know
the
goal
is
to
use
this
project
as
a
little
bit
of
a
showpiece
for
our
construction
company
to
get
some
press
for
our
construction
company.
I
As
to
you
know
the
you
know
whether
it's
the
technology
or
the
sustainable
methods
that
we're
going
to
use
to
restore
it
to
restore
a
building,
that's
been
an
eyesore
and
put
it
to
a
good
use
and
it
seems
to
make
the
most
sense
as
far
as
a
use
when.
Finally,
we
have
a
downtown
core
that
people
want
to
spend
a
couple
nights
in
you
know,
and
they
want
to
spend.
They
don't
want
a
typical
hotel.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
get
to
that
subject,
but
they
don't
want
like
a
typical.
I
You
know
stay.
They
want
something
special
they
wanted
to
land,
they
wanted
charleston,
I'm
currently
you
know
I
have
submitted
in
dunedin
for
a
79
key
hotel,
the
management
company
of
that
group
charlestown
group.
They
haven't
signed
that
they're
willing
to
manage
this
small
eight
units
property.
They
don't
think
that
I
need
them,
but
they
do
manage
an
11
unit
property
in
charleston.
I
So
you
know
that
is
what
we're
going
after
we're
going
after
kind
of
a
unique
market
where
people
want
to
come
here,
whether
it's
for
the
anglo
river
and
to
enjoy
the
river
or
the
the
shops,
the
restaurants,
the
breweries,
the
distilleries
that
we
have
now
in
our
downtown
core.
So
you
know
that's
kind
of
the
overall
plan
and
I'm
grateful
to
staff
for
everything.
They've
done
kind
of
guiding
us
through
this
process
and
the
pinellas
county
process.
G
H
L
L
L
L
We
have
the
1910
in
farther
down
the
road
we
have
the
tarpon
in
by
the
bayou.
We
have
ashley's
bread
and
breakfast
just
down
the
road
over
here
on
on
groves
right,
cutty
corner
from
here,
there's
the
the
poolside.
L
What's
the
name
of
it
poolside
cottage
right
across
the
street,
one
mile
radius
from
this
property
we
have
the
tarp,
I
think
it's
the
tarpon
shores
in
on
19
and
not
very
many
few
yards
away.
There's
the
hampton
inn
and
the
quality
inn.
L
Do
we
really
need
more
of
that
and
I
it
would
be
awesome
and
great
to
restore
this
historical,
historical
use
to
this
property,
but
I
don't
think
that
it
fits
within
the
character
of
the
area
to
add
more
transient
lodging
and
I'm
not
even
gonna,
go
about
adding
more
hard
surface
to
the
back
of
these
properties
and
also
it
goes
against
a
future
land
use
map
approved
by
the
city
in
which
these
two
properties
are
marked
as
residential.
So
it's
that
much
more
commercial,
encroaching
and
approaching
residential
homes
properties.
L
So
you
know
I
I
wouldn't
mind
if
it
was
an
actual
apartment,
there's
a
big
shortage
of
rental
units
that
are
not
just
short-term
in
the
city
and
your
own
housing
proposals.
For
what's
the
word,
it's
not
proposal,
there's
the
the
housing
component
of
the
city
plans
that
wants
to
encourage
the
availability
of
affordable
rental
housing
in
the
city.
L
L
L
L
It's
just
one
that
is
right
next
door
to
ours
and
we've
they've
been
okay,
they've
been
okay,
but
at
times
I've
had
to
had
to
call
the
owner.
It
does
appear
that
there's
plenty
of
properties
around
here
that
are
owned
and
they're
being
offered
for
rental,
short-term
rentals,
but
nobody's
living
in
there.
So
again
we're
adding
that
kind
of
use
to
the
air
and.
L
You
know
I
had
to
put
a
sign
on
that
back
alley,
because
cars
already
kind
of
go
and
use
that
as
it
should
be,
but
having
this
many
parking
spaces
and
this
many
people
coming
in
and
out
at
all
times
of
night
during
the
day,
especially
there's
not
gonna,
be
a
manned
reception
to
this.
L
So
basically
it's
just
through
an
app.
How
is
that
different
than
an
airbnb
or
a
verbal?
It's
not
so
I
mean
I
appreciate
what
he's
going
to
do
with
the
property.
Try
to
bring
it
up
to
you,
know,
repair
it
and
bring
it
back
to
his
historical.
L
L
L
I
don't
see
any
any
available
square
footage
in
this
project
for
rainwater.
Where
is
that
all
that
gonna
go
any
retention
ponds?
L
L
You
know
the
property
of
my
house
will
probably
go
down
a
boating,
a
parking
lot
like
that
and
it's
those
two
properties
are
supposed
to
be
residential,
not
commercial.
So
I
rest
my
time
for
my
case.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
M
M
So
there's
a
lot
of
kids
running
around.
Obviously
we
you
know
protect
them
the
best
we
can,
but
even
when
the
airbnb
is
occupied,
there's
tons
of
children
running
around
the
alley
there's
also
multiple
cars
that
block
the
alley.
So
that's
a
pretty
congested
area
just
just
to
kind
of
get
at
the
the
logistics
of
it.
M
M
The
signs
are
trickling
in
so
we
actually
don't
need
boutique
hotels
here
and
we
don't
even
really
need
affordable
housing.
We
need
housing
for
people
that
are
in
those
service
industries,
working
minimum
wage
jobs
or
maybe
just
right
upon
the
edge.
So
I
would
say
if
you
would
like
to
bring
positive
press
to
your
company
and
to
your
name
with
all
the
other,
wonderful
high-end
projects
and
beautiful
things
that
you
have
maybe
now
it's
time
for
a
little
philanthropy.
M
So
I'll
kind
of
leave
it
at
that.
Just
to
say
you
know,
I'm
in
favor
of
this
is
a
beautiful
building.
We
knew
the
family
that
lived
there
for
years
and
years
and
years
there's
a
lot
of
wonderful
things
that
you
could
do
for
the
downstairs
area,
whether
it's
you
know
helping
out
the
community
helping
people
in
need
having
it
to
be
a
walkable
place.
You
know
we
just
had
a
neighbor
move
out
whose
mom
was
92
years
old.
She
there
wasn't
a
place.
M
You
could
walk
to
get
a
newspaper
without
going
across
19.,
like
general
store
place
to
you
know
anyway.
So
I
just
I
wanted
to
just
hit
on
that
that
there's
more
kids
around
this
area
that
were
mentioned
if
we're
concerned
about
sustainability,
hot
heat,
island
effects
and
pervious
and
impervious
services
are
something
we
need
to
consider.
M
Finally,
imminent
homeless,
homelessness,
issue
coming
away,
and
you
all
really
need
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
then
finally,
just
the
the
high
risk
of
human
trafficking
with
this
sort
of
airbnb
no
person
at
a
desk.
So
anyway,
that's
all
I
had
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
bring
my
children
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
A
A
In
that
case,
I
guess
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
G
Well,
I
do.
I
do
have
a
question
with
staff.
Okay,
is
there
a
different
definition
for
a
boutique
hotel
versus
an
airbnb
in
our
code.
F
So
an
airbnb
by
the
code
is
defined.
It's
a
short-term
rental
or
a
seasonal
rental
is
the
definition
in
the
smart
code,
and
then
hotel
is
a
separate
definition.
Density
is
calculated
differently.
Short-Term,
rentals
or
airbnbs
have
to
follow
residential
density,
so
if
they
did
full
short-term
rental,
they'd
be
limited
to
the
four
units
that
are
on
that
property
that
are
left
for
just
residential
hotel
is
different.
F
G
Would
I
would
just
say
to
to
the
people
that
spoke?
We
appreciate
your
input,
it's
important,
you
know
believe
it
or
not.
We,
you
know
we
try.
We
try
to
listen
to
your
concerns,
but
overall,
when
we
weigh
you
know
the
benefits
versus
some
of
the
concerns,
you
know.
I
think
the
city
probably
would
benefit
by
having
a
boutique
hotel
in
that
particular
district
area.
G
A
And
the
the
other
thing
to
that
point,
a
little
bit
is:
they
do
have
to
comply
with
water
management,
district
and
and
all
other
city
codes,
or
regarding
drainage
and
and
parking,
and
all
that.
So
what
you
see
here
may
not
be
exactly
the
final
site
plan
and
the
final
site
plan
has
to
come
back
to
us
and
then
it
has
to
go
to
the
building
department.
A
Before
you
know,
any
actual
construction
could
occur.
Yeah
and
the
water
management
district
standards
for
drainage
are
very
strict.
A
D
A
A
J
Okay,
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this,
you
all
wanted
to
look
at
the
language
and
I
feel
like
there's.
If
you
do
consider
using
this
statement
or
something
like
it
might
be
a
little
long-winded,
I
wrote
it,
but
you
might,
you
might
want
to
cut
it
back
or
change
it.
If
you
want
to
do
something.
I've
got
two
options
here.
I've
got
a
draft
resolution.
H
H
A
Well,
we,
it
sounds
like
from
what
patricia
is
saying:
we
either
have
a
choice
of
adopting
it
so
that
it's
it's
part
of
our
regulations
that
we
have
to
make
this
statement
at
the
beginning
of
every
meeting
or
she
can
just
put
it
on
the
agenda
so
that
it's
there
that
we
read
it
at
every
meeting.
But
if
we
wanted
to
change
or
or
not
do
it
anymore
for
some
reason
in
the
future,
it
wouldn't
be
part
of
our
regulations.
H
H
J
It
off
if
you
want
to,
but
I
mean
I
suppose,
a
third
choice
would
be
to
put
on
your
agenda.
So
the
first
first
thing
you
do
is
a
call
to
order.
J
H
Kind
of
a
do
it
now
kind
of
guy
and
if
the
board
would
be
patient
enough
with
me,
I'm
going
to
read
the
whole
thing
out
loud
from
edge
to
edge
anyone.
H
Thank
you
for
attending
the
city
of
tarpon,
springs,
planning
and
zoning
board
meeting.
The
purpose
of
the
planning
and
zoning
board
is
to
conduct
public
hearings
on
the
items
that
come
before
it.
The
planning
and
zoning
board
has
reviewed
the
evidence
in
the
agenda
packet
for
each
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
including
the
application
materials
and
the
staff
report.
H
The
board
will
consider
that
evidence
along
with
any
new
evidence
or
testimony
provided
at
the
public
meeting.
The
board
will
consider
all
of
the
information
provided
at
this
hearing
in
accordance
with
the
quasi-judicial
procedures,
by
which
it
is
bound.
I
will
ask
the
city
attorney
to
explain
these
quasi-judicial
procedures
at
the
appropriate
time.
H
The
board
will
render
a
decision
on
each
item
in
the
form
of
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
commissioners
who
will
take
the
final
action
on
the
item.
The
general
hearing
procedure
for
each
item
called
by
the
chair
is
as
follows:
staff
presentation,
applicant
presentation,
affected
party
presentation,
public
input,
staff,
applicant
rebuttal
and
finally,
board
motion,
discussion
and
vote
and.
A
I
mean
I,
it
seems
to
be
a
good
statement
to
me
that
I
mean
the
only
really
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
The
the
two
ways
to
go
that
makes
sense
would
either
adopt
the
statement
or
adopt
that
there
will
be
a
statement
of
purpose
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
and
then,
if
over
time
there
are
things
we
wanted
to
massage
a
little
bit
in
the
statement.
We
would
have
the
leeway
to
do
that.
C
So
I
reckon
I
kind
of
like
was
it
choice
c,
where.
J
C
A
That
there
there
will
be
a
statement
of
purpose
but
and
and
we'll
start
out
using
this,
but
if
things
need
to
be
changed
that
leaves
us
the
flexibility,
yeah
yeah.
J
A
E
E
H
A
F
Sure
so
we
are
actually
continuing
to
do
some
more
outreach
with
the
public.
We
just
post
it
on
our
facebook
page
as
well
as
we're
gonna,
send
out
a
newsletter
through
connect.
Tarpon
springs
to
try
and
see
if
anyone
has
any
neighborhood
organizations
or
just
a
general
organization
that
they'd
like
us
to
come
to
and
talk
to
about
the
plan,
so
we're
trying
to
get
more
public
input.
So
we
collected
all
the
board's
input
that
was
provided
to
us
and
gave
that
to
our
consultants
to
compile
everything
together.
F
There
was
lots
of
information
that
came
into
us,
which
was
super
appreciated.
If
there's
any
additional
information
that
you
guys
would
like
to
to
pass
on,
we
can
give
that
to
our
consultants.
Still
we
have
some
time
we're
looking
probably
to
do
this
additional
outreach
period
until
the
end
of
september
and
then,
after
that,
that's
when
the
consultants
are
working
on
basically
the
next
step,
like
a
strikethrough
underlying
version
and
that
will
come
back
for
more
public
input.