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A
D
And
real,
quick
before
we
start
too
I'd
mention
real
quick.
I
was
telling
dory
as
far
because
we
have
here
now
as
far
as
doing
an
excuse
or
being
have
four
out
of
the
five
members
only
the
fur.
Just
so
you
know
carol,
I'm
not
leaving
you
out
yeah.
E
F
D
B
Oh,
my
gosh
welcome
everyone
to
the
sustainability
committee
in
city
of
tarpon
springs
this
thursday
february
18th.
It
is
602
and
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
before
we
do
roll
call.
Can
we
please
get
a
motion
to
admit
dr
robinson
to
the
meeting
via
zoom?
I
have
the
thing
there.
A
B
I
B
All
right
so
can
we
get
a
roll
call?
Please.
G
B
J
Good
evening
and
thank
you
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight,
I'm
so
excited
to
announce
that
city
of
tarpon
springs
will
be
celebrating
arbor
day
with
a
drive-through
tree
giveaway.
This
is
usually
done
during
touch-a-truck
and
in
january,
to
coincide
with
florida
arbor
day
this
year
due
to
coveted
reactions
and
restrictions.
J
This
will
be
a
drive-through
event
to
celebrate
national
arbor
day
on
the
24th
residents
are
eligible
to
receive
two
free.
Three
gallon
trees
per
household
at
this
drive
through
event
located
at
the
splash
park.
Residents
must
register
to
participate
by
march
1st.
The
species
available
this
year
are
dahu,
holis,
longleaf,
pines
pig,
nut,
hickory
southern
magnolia
and
the
red
mangrove.
The
official
tree
of
tarpon
springs.
J
J
A
color
coded
paper
to
the
corresponding
tree
will
be
put
in
the
window
of
the
vehicle.
Then
residents
will
follow
signs
to
one
of
the
three
designated
loading
stations
staff
will
place
the
trees
in
the
loading
area.
Once
the
staff
walks
to
a
safe
distance
away,
then
the
resident
may
exit
to
load
the
vehicle
in
order
to
keep
staff
and
representatives
no
walk-up
traffic
residents
must
pre-register.
J
The
registration
form
is
available
online
at
the
city
webpage
or
pick
up
a
paper
form
at
the
city
community
center
located
at
400,
south
walton
avenue
or
city
hall.
Before
the
event
in
april,
residents
will
receive
an
email
reminder
with
their
designated
pickup
time
event,
procedures
and
map
so
spread.
The
word
tarpon
as
as
of
this
afternoon,
we
have
35
households
who
are
wanting
to
participate,
can't
wait
to
see
how
many
residents
participate.
B
Thank
you
shannon.
I
have
a
question:
how
many
trees
are
there
going
to
be
available
so
there's
obviously
there's
going
to
be
a
cut
off
at
some
point
right.
B
Awesome
follow-up
question:
is
there
going
to
be
a
facebook
post
so
that
we
can
share
it
that
way
easier.
J
I
I
have
a
question.
I
went
online
to
the
city
website
and
I
couldn't
find
where
to
sign
up
for
this.
So
could
you
say
how
you
sign
up.
K
Sometime
before
the
end
of
the
meeting
I'll
try
to
find
where
that
is
and
report
back
to
you
under
director's
comments.
B
Because
I
went,
I
just
went
just
now
trying
to
find
it,
so
that
would
be
a
lot
easier.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
any
other
questions
I'm
really
excited
about
this,
this
tree
giveaway
and
thank
you
for
your
for
your
work
on
it.
Shannon.
F
J
F
E
B
Perfect,
I
found
it
and
I
it
doesn't
really
link
to
where
on
the
page
it's
found
so,
but
it
does,
if
you
type
in,
if
you
go
in
the
search,
it
does
pop
up
right
away.
So
that's
that's
good
to
know.
Thank
you
all
right,
then.
Moving
on
to
our
next
item,
we
have
an
update
from
the
planning
and
zoning
staff
about
the
community
engagement
tool,
bang
the
table
and
then
also
some
follow-up
information
that
we
had
requested
about
the
amount
of
open
spaces
around
town
so
like
to
turn
it
over.
G
G
Tell
you
the
truth
and
also
the
we
do
have
a
page
ready
and
the
board
of
commissioners
will
be
getting
a
demonstration
of
that
page.
G
This
coming
tuesday,
the
23rd
that's
in
the
presentations
near
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
so
it
might
be
something
you
you
might
don't
want
to
tune
in
and
look
at
so
that'll
be
happening
on
tuesday
and
after
that
and
after
we
finalize
exactly
how
board
members
and
committee
members
will
be
using
the
platform,
then
then
we
will
be
reporting
back
to
you.
We
do
have
ali
king
in
in
attendance
tonight.
If
you
guys
have
any
more
specific
questions
on
that,
and
hopefully
I
didn't
miss
anything.
B
B
G
Okay,
so
at
the
last
meeting,
can
you
guys
see
that.
G
B
G
You
can
see
that
slideshow
now
so,
at
the
last
meeting,
when
we
were
talking
through
some
of
the
land
development
code
items
and
comprehensive
plan
items,
we
had
talked
about
as
an
example
the
amount
of
open
space
that
the
city
has
available
and
what
that
might
be,
what
you
might
desire
to
have
in
those
sorts
of
things
at
that
meeting,
renee
vincent
had
our
planning
director
had
talked
about
that
we
do
have
a
recreational
recreation
and
open
space
element
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
that
does
have
a
level
of
service
standards
in
it.
G
I've
just-
and
some
of
you
may
have
looked
at
this
if
you're,
looking
through
the
comprehensive
plan,
elements,
I've
just
kind
of
summarized
one
of
the
tables
from
that
element
and
the
important
part
is
kind
of
highlighted
at
the
bottom.
We
have
what
are
called
levels
of
service
that
are
adopted
by
the
board
of
commissioners
for
different
things.
G
For
example,
we
have
a
level
of
service
for
water
supply
and
for
roadways
and
for
solid
waste
and
those
types
of
things.
Well,
our
recreation
element
puts
puts
out
the
levels
of
service
to
serve
our
city
population
with
recreation
and
open
space
facilities,
as
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
there,
where
I'm
moving
the
cursor,
our
open
space
in
the
city
is
really
covered
under
the
parks.
G
So
really,
our
highest
level
of
service
requirement
is
1.5
acres
per
thousand
persons
in
the
city
for
parks,
so
we
have
just
under
26
000
people
in
the
city
population
is
our
current
estimated
population
by
the
state
of
florida
and
just
real
quick.
I
did
a
quick
gis
analysis
this
week
and
that's
that's
what
I'm
going
to
be
showing
you
here.
G
So
what
I
put
in
that
analysis
was,
I
pulled
the
property
appraisers
parcel
data
and
pulled
the
and
city-owned
county-owned
lands
and
pulled
the
active
and
passive
recreation
facilities,
and
I
also
polled
residential
common
area
that
serves
as
open
space.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
first
things
that
we
looked
at.
So
these
are
numbers
that
are
probably
pretty
good
numbers.
G
G
The
overall
number
of
acres
of
active
and
passive
city
and
county
facilities
comes
up
to
739
acres
and
then,
if
we
look
at
just
the
passive
we're
down
to
about
445
acres
and
that
comes
out
to
about
17
acres
per
thousand
persons,
so
we're
pretty
high
over
the
level
of
service
on
that.
G
G
We
add
that
to
the
445
acres,
we're
getting
about
32
acres
per
thousand
persons
for
passive
parks
and
open
space,
so
renee
had
kind
of
you
know,
given
kind
of
a
reaction
last
week,
a
feeling
that
she
thought
boy
we're
in
pretty
good
shape
for
level
of
service
on
this
and
and
she
was
right-
we
are
in
good
shape.
As
far
as
you
know,
most
cities
in
florida
go.
G
Us
to
look
at
open
space
and
recreational
facilities
active
and
passive,
but
for
a
city
it's
not
as
onerous,
I
guess
so
we're
you
know
as
it
is
for
county,
so
we're
in
pretty
good
shape
with
that,
and
I
want
to
show
you
some
maps.
G
So
this
is
the
city
and
county
parks,
passive
and
passive
and
active
parks
that
show
the
739
acres
that
we're
looking
at
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
golf
course
was
included.
The
landfill
was
included.
So
that's
what's
pushing
that
acreage
up
on
that
cemetery.
G
If
we
take
those
sorts
of
things
out
and
we
just
leave
our
parks-
we're
looking
at
the
445
acres
that
are
within
the
city
limits
that
includes
some
parks
and
open
space
that
includes
three
county
properties
that
I've
labeled
there.
So
anderson,
howard
and
pinellas,
one
of
the
things
we
look
at
with
level
of
services.
How
close
the
facility
is
to
the
residents
to
the
population
where
they
live
so
usually
a
half
mile
is
a
good
indication
of
population
served.
G
So
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
notice.
For
example,
the
ankle
river
park,
that's
in
pasco
county.
Actually
serves
part
of
our
population
distance
wise,
but
we
don't
count
that
because
it's
not
in
pinellas
county
now
this
adds
the
residential
common
areas,
397
acres
of
residential
common
area-
and
I
I
I
was
pretty
conservative
on
this.
G
I
took
out
anything
that
wasn't
pretty
much
took
out
every
anything
that
wasn't
open
space
or
wetlands
or
preserved,
because
there's,
as
you
can
imagine,
lots
of
common
area
in
subdivisions
streets
facilities,
clubhouses,
you
know
all
that
stuff.
G
G
So
some
of
the
things
we'll
be
bringing
back
to
you
would
be.
You
know,
information
on
future
land
use
and
those
sorts
of
things
that
you
would
like
to
to
see.
The
red
shows
where
our
future
land
use
map
designates
preservation
area.
There
are
a
few.
There
are
a
couple
missing
from
this
that
have
recently
been
designated,
but
basically
it
shows
where
preservation
area
is
so.
You
can
see
some
of
that
matches
up.
G
Some
of
it
doesn't
like.
I
say
there
are
different
mechanisms
for
preserving
residential
open
space.
Sometimes
it's
just
a
conservation,
easement
or
some
kind
of
a
designation
homeowners
association,
common
area
restriction.
Those
types
of
things
are
also
at
play
here,
but
really
this
map
is
is
the
one
that
kind
of
adds
up
all
that
open
space.
So
I
guess
in
conclusion,
we
are
in
good
shape,
with
open
space
and
passive
facilities
in
the
city
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions.
I
I
have
a
comment:
I
live
on
chesapeake
and
we
have
a
park,
but
it's
not
on
your
map.
G
No,
it's
not.
I
didn't
put
that
one
on
the
map
that
little
park
yeah.
We
could.
I
mean
you
know
they're
in
there
are
lots
of
well,
I
wouldn't
say
lots,
but
there
are
small
neighborhood
pocket
parks.
In
fact,
we
just
approved
eagle
creek
subdivision
is
going
to
have
a
small
pocket
park.
I
didn't
go
through
and,
like
I
say
with
with
some
limited
time
and
and
I
didn't
really
refine
the
data.
To
that
point
I
would
say
probably
the
maybe
the
smallest
one
I
put
in
is
the
oh,
the
oak
leaf
subdivision.
G
Is
it
oakley
for
oak
down
here?
I
think
yeah.
I
think
that
was
the
smallest
one
I
put
in.
But
yes,
that
park
is
is
the
chesapeake
park
is,
is
in
the
data
I'll
say
so
it
could
be
added
to
this
map.
It's
it's
almost
up
to
the
it's
up
here,
somewhere.
L
G
No,
I
would
say
not
generally
mostly
they're,
available
to
the
residents
of
of
the
area.
G
Yeah
that
the
the
term
common
area
would
be,
as
you
all
know,
that
live
in
the
subdivisions
that
would
be
a
term
that's
used
in
subdivision
documents,
so
common
area
is
usually
controlled
by
a
homeowners
association
or
anything
like
that.
So
when
I
use
the
term
common
area,
it's
not
referring
to
availability
of
it's
not
referring
to
common
to
the
city.
It's
common
to
the
subdivision.
L
I
believe
that
the
comprehensive
plan
states
that
we
are
deficient
about-
13
mini
parks.
G
G
Yeah,
that's-
and
you
know,
recreation
element
is
one
that
we
are
looking
to
update
with
your
comprehensive
plan
update
the
subdivision
I
just
mentioned
eagle
creek
was
required
to
have
a
park
for
that
reason.
At
this
point,
we're
just
looking
to
have
those
parks
created,
as
as
developments
come
in,
but
I
would
say:
yeah
there
is
a
deficiency
there
and
part
of
the
update
of
the
comprehensive
plan
would
be
to
approach
what's
the
deficiency.
How
do
we
remedy
that?
M
So
I
I
have
a
kind
of
a
weird
question:
the
landfill,
the
old
landfill.
G
I
don't
know
of
any,
I
don't
know
if
paul
knows
of
any,
I
have
not.
Since
I've
been
with
the
city,
I
haven't
heard
of
anything.
K
I
can
add
something
to
that:
there's
actually
going
to
be
a
board
discussion
scheduled
in
the
future
for
that
property,
for
I
believe
that
reason,
the
vice
mayor
has
asked
that
to
be
discussed
and
so
yeah.
I
know
it's
it's
been
in
consideration
before
what
does
complicate
things
is
it's
a
closed
landfill
and
it
has
certain
requirements
to
continue
monitoring
it,
and
you
know
that
affects
how
it
can
be
reconfigured,
etc.
M
So
I'll
go
ahead.
I
M
M
The
reason
I
asked
those
because
funny
story
when
I
was
a
kid:
that's.
M
You
know,
kids
being
kids,
we
would
go
exploring
around
the
neighborhood
and
we
lived
pretty
close
to
it
and
it's
just
a
big
open
field.
Essentially,
but
I
yeah
I
did
realize
that,
like
later
learning
things
about
like
landfills
and
whatnot,
they
have
to
be
like
contained.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
like
things
leaching
into
the
ground
or
anything
else
that
could
complicate
that.
But
it's
basically
just
a
big
open
field
with
some
with
some
trees
on
the
edges
and
it'd
make
a
pretty
good
recreation
area.
I
B
Any
other
questions:
okay.
Well,
thank
you,
pat
for
that
update
on
the
open
space
availability.
Our
next
topic
is
the
land
development
code.
Paul.
Do
you
want
to
kick
us
off
with
that.
K
So
what
we
have
put
in
our
backup
to
you
all
is
a
summary
table
of
how
we
might
get
started
on
reviewing
that
at
the
last
meeting
the
committee
asked
if
we
could
narrow
it
down
to
perhaps
three
or
four
topics
to
start
off
with
which
I
thought
was
an
excellent
idea:
more
of
a
guided
tour
of
the
pretty
vast
land
development
code
and
one
of
these
suggested
topics
was
trees.
So
we
made
sure
we
included
that
in
that
short
list,
so
you'll
see
a
table
in
your
backup.
K
K
So
hopefully
everybody
can
see
that
and
what
you've
got
is
the
first
column
is
the
subject
area.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
four
different
ones:
trees,
buffers
land
conservation,
water
quality,
the
ones
we
suggest
to
start
with,
and
the
reason
is
we
wanted
to
correlate
it
with
the
star
framework
that
we're
working
on
and
we'll
be
discussed
more
in
the
next
agenda
item.
K
You
know
within
there
as
you'll
see
some
of
the
actions
or
outcomes
reference
codes.
K
So
what
this
table
works
to
do
is
show
you
the
portion,
that's
shaded,
lighter,
is
you
know
from
goal
area
on
over
to
description
this
area
here
it
has
the
star
framework
references
and
then
to
the
right
of
it
is
where
it
shows
up
in
the
code
so
sort
of
a
cross-referencing
going
on
there
I'll
walk
through
the
first
one
trees.
So
that's
in
the
star
code
framework.
K
That's
the
goal
area
ns
that
we're
working
on
now
objective,
ns1,
the
action
three
and
outcome
2
both
reference
trees,
outcome,
2
asks
for
localized
cooling
through
tree
canopy,
recognizing
the
benefits
of
that
and
then
action
3
looks
for
codes
that
require
proactive,
green
infrastructure.
For
new
developments
and
trees
would
be
included
in
that
broad
category,
so
where
does
that
show
up
in
the
code?
Well,
that's
where
article
ix
or
9.
If
my
roman
numerals
are
right,
land
of
development
code,
section
133,
the
title
of
that
section
is
tree
protection
and
preservation.
K
Right,
okay
and
on
that
question,
if
you
look
down
that
column
code,
section
you'll
see
when
it
just
says
article
that
means
the
land
development
code,
which
is
appendix
a
if
it's
ch
at
the
beginning.
That's
the
chapter
of
the
land
of
illness
code.
So
it's
not
in
the
land
development
code.
It's
actually
I'm
sorry.
The
chapter
of
the
code
of
ordinances,
which
is
the
broader,
the
whole
the
whole
set
of
codes
and
then
what
article
that
one
would
be
so,
for
example,
moving
down
to
land
conservation.
K
There
is
reference
to
land
conservation
in
chapter
two,
so
that's
that's
how
it
all
works.
I
don't
know
dory
how
you
want
to
go
with
reviewing
this
further.
I
thought
I'd
just
give
an
overview
of
how
it's
structured
and
turn
it
back
over
to
you.
B
L
Dory
at
the
last
meeting
we
were
told
by
represented
by
members
of
planning
and
zoning
that
they
had
highlighted
areas
that
they
thought
would
be
a
particular
interest
to
us
in
green.
I
I
can't
find
any
in
in
the
in
I
the
code
of
ordinances,
etc.
That
have
been
highlighted,
and
I'm
I'm
referring
not
only
to
what
we
got
as
basic
material
in
our
last
meeting,
but
also
material.
That
ashley
has
subsequently
shared
with
me.
L
And
I
think
I've
looked
at
just
about
everything,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
whether
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
place
or
whether
we
should
not
expect
to
see
anything
highlighted
in
green.
At
this
point.
K
That
was
in
the
original
tables
we
sent
out.
I
believe
the
meeting
it
wasn't
last
me
as
one
before,
but
what
might
be
throwing
you
is,
you
won't
see
green
highlighting
until
you
get
pretty
far
in
those
tabs
along
the
bottom,
I'm
just
guessing,
but
it
was
something
like
article
8
or
something
was
the
first
area
that
might
have
been
something
related
to
sustainability.
K
A
B
It
was
weird
with
us:
it
was
under
item
2a
on
the
january
part
of
the
backup.
I
can
share
my
screen
to
show
you
if
that
would
be
helpful.
Okay,
give
me
just
a
second.
B
A
N
Oh
sorry
bud!
So
if
you'll
look
at
the
very
bottom,
do
you
see
it
on
my
screen
with
the
article
numbers.
L
P
If
I
could
just
jump
in
this
is
alley
keen
also
from
that
spreadsheet,
in
the
first
column,
you'll
see,
there's
the
section
numbers
and
they're
underlined
and
blue
in
color.
You
should
be
able
to
click
on
that
and
it
will
take
you
directly
to
the
land
development
code,
so
that
might
help
you
navigate
a
little
bit
easier.
K
L
K
B
Okay,
good.
Well,
then,
that
I'm
glad
we
pulled
that
up
and,
like
paul
smith
said
he
went
ahead
and
made
kind
of
that
chart
for
us
where
he'd
gone
through
and
kind
of
hurt
the
turns
and
found
in
the
land
development
code
where
these
items
are.
So
I
guess
if,
if
we've
had
a
chance,
let's
probably
start
going
through
each
item
and
seeing
what
we
would
like
to
how
we
want
to
address
each
of
these.
B
So
I
guess
I
could
get
us
kicked
off
for
for
the
tree
protection
and
preservation.
I
also
noticed
that,
in
addition
to
the
land
development
code,
it's
also
in
the
comp
plan-
and
I
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
that
too-
not
to
really
confuse
things,
but
the
comprehensive
plan
is
kind
of
like
the
guide
book
of
what
the
commission
would
like
to
see
the
city
looking
like
and
then
the
land
development
code
is
how
to
implement
those
goals
and
objectives.
B
So
if
you
look,
I
guess
I'll
share
my
screen.
B
Okay,
so
I
pulled
up
the
this:
is
the
coastal
zone
element
of
the
land
development
code
and
it
actually
has
objective
1.5
already
in
it.
That
says
that
we're
the
objective
is
to
require
the
preservation
of
native
vegetation
during
site
development
by
implementing
standards
in
the
land
development
code.
B
So
then,
you
would
look
at
the
land
development
code
and
see
how
these
that
goal
is
being
implemented
like
what
are
the
steps
that
the
city
is
taking
to
to
implement
that.
So
I
guess
my
question:
is
I'm
gonna
stop
my
share
for,
for
this?
B
B
B
B
How
do
we
maintain
the
canopy?
So
these
are
my,
I
guess
kind
of
questions
more
than
I
don't
really
have
the
solution
of
like
what
we
need
to
write,
but
that's
kind
of
the
questions
that
I
was
thinking
as
I
was
looking
at
this
like.
How
do
we
get
these
things
done
or
how
do
we
have
the
desired
effect
that
we
were
looking
for
and
then,
similarly
to
what
we
were
presented
on
about
open
space?
B
So
I
would
love
to
see
our
neighborhood
turn
that
into
more
of
a
preservation
area
with
you
know
some
scrub,
habitat
and
things
that,
like
would
have
been
there,
it
was
upland
pineapple
and
originally.
So
how
do
we
encourage
that
kind
of
transition?
Too?
C
C
People
find
it
and
you
know
it's
something.
That's
going
to
take.
I
think
education
and,
and
hopefully
a
shift
in
the
consciousness
about
the
values
for
the
things
that
we're
talking
about,
because
no
one
wants
to
feel
that
their
government
at
any
level
is
forcing
them
to
do
something
that
they
haven't.
Really
the
agreement
on.
C
C
It's
going
to
be
artful,
to
say
the
least,
in
the
way
that
everything
is
presented
in
order
to
gain.
C
F
Good
dory,
you
know
when
I
was
following
up
at
the
from
our
last
gathering
our
last
sustainability
meeting.
I
was
tasked
with
finding
out
more
about
trees
in
the
tree,
giveaway
and
so
forth,
and
so
I
had
a
conversation
with
shannon
brewer
and
suggested
that
she
come
and
share
the
tree,
giveaway
and
so
forth.
F
But
when
I
was
speaking
with
her
and
I
think
ashley,
I
shared
that
right
after
I
had
that
conversation
with
you,
we
started
talking
about
some
of
the
contacts
that
she's
made
throughout
the
state
of
florida
and
just
has
a
wealth
of
wonderful
contacts
with
great
tree
people,
and
I
mean
you,
you
knew
them
by
name
actually
when,
when
I
mentioned
them
so
you're
like
oh
yeah,
that
guy
and
this
person
and
so
forth.
So
we
we
kind
of
talked
about
bringing
some
type
of
an
education
piece
into
this.
F
I
don't
know
how
big
of
an
audience
we
have
who
sits
in
on
these
meetings,
but
if
it's
recorded
we
could
definitely
post
it
on
sustainability
website
or
a
facebook
page
or
something
like
that.
People
love
trees.
You
know
they
love
the
trees
they
like
to
hear
about
it,
and
I
think
that
if
we
have
some
education
pieces
that
go
along
with
this,
that
that
will
help
ease
our
way
to
see
the
results
that
we'd
like
to
see,
because
it
is,
I
agree
completely
with
you
denise.
F
You
can't
just
tell
people
well,
this
is
good
for
you,
so
you
have
to
do
it
or
we
think
this
should
be
is
how
it
should
be.
It
has
to
be
in
agreement,
you
know
as
as
going
forward,
but
I
really
feel
that
a
you
know
what
I
just
said:
an
education
piece.
Brief
presentations
focused
presentations
that
would
help
enlighten
people
to
some
of
the
nuances
and
some
of
the
things
that
that
they're
well
acquainted
with
as
experts
and
professionals
that
I
have
no
knowledge
of.
M
So
I
did
read
through
the
tree
section
a
little
bit
and
there
were
mentions
of
like
maintaining
natural
communities
and
xeriscaping,
and
things
like
that
so
they're
already
at
least
mentioning
I'm
just
not
sure
how
to
you
know,
like
you
said,
there's
there's
still
ditches
with
saint
augustine
grass
that
just
you
know
we're
still
watering.
So
how
do
we
kind
of
move
it
a
little
bit
more
in
the
other
direction?.
F
Do
we
have
as
a
committee
I
mean:
if
do
we
have
some
type
of
of
a
shared
vision
of
what
we'd
like
to
see
you
know
of
of,
and,
as
you
mentioned
dory,
you
know
not
this,
how
about
this?
In
other
words,
a
place
for
people
to
reimagine
what
what
different
properties
could
look
like
or
what
types
of
plantings
could
be
there
that
might
incur
something
different
or
I'm
you
know
this
is
off
the
cuff.
F
B
You
know
honestly
a
little
like
vulnerable
with
this
process
because
I
feel,
like
I
don't
know
enough
to
say,
like
this
is
what
needs
to
be
yeah,
so
I
feel
like
we
really
because
in
the
tree
section
it
did
say
like
shannon
to
rewrite
this
whole
section,
so
I
almost
would
rather
see
like
what
they
bring
as
like
suggestions
and
recommendations,
and
then
we
kind
of
give
some
feedback
instead
of
us
trying
to
come
up
with
the
recommendation,
because
that's
not
I'm
not
that
expert,
I'm
not
that
staff,
I'm
not.
F
You
know,
or
am
I
and
that's
that's
where
I
was
saying
some
something
to
present
a
different
view
of
what
it
might
look
like,
not
of
us
coming
up
with
that,
because
I
don't
have
the
expertise
to
do
that
either.
I
have
no
idea,
but
I
know
that
in
some
instances
like
when
you
mentioned
that
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
to
do
that,
you
know
there's
a
better
way
to
do
retention
ponds,
detention,
ponds,
there's
a
way
that
makes
more
sense.
L
The
material
on
trees
is
is
well
written,
but
it
is
probably
something
that
we
could
make
more
specific
through
some
wordsmithing
and
dory.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
couldn't
engage
with
shannon
on
this
and
offer
some
offer
some.
You
know
some
some
additions
to
the
tree
area.
B
Pat
are
there,
I
know
that
you
guys
had
you
know
obviously
you're
aware
of
wanting
to
make
changes
to
the
land
development
code.
Are
there
recommendations
that
you
guys
have
at
this
point
on
how
to
strengthen
this
section
so
that
we
can
have.
L
B
G
That
was
question
for
me.
Okay,
you
know
I'm
listening
to
I'm
listening
to
kind
of
what
you
guys
are
saying
and
taking
some
notes.
So
we
do
have
you
know
dory's
right.
We
we
have
the
comprehensive
plan.
That
kind
of
is
the
umbrella
document,
almost
kind
of
like
the
constitution
of
the
city,
and
it
says:
hey.
We
want
to
protect
trees,
it's
it's
a
policy
level
document,
it's
not
specific
regulatory,
it's
not
supposed
to
be
anyway
and
then
the
devil's
in
the
details
right.
G
So
you
get
into
when
you
go
to
the
co
you
it.
You
say
we
want
to
protect
trees
and
then
you
might
say
well
we're
going
to
have
a
program
to
plant.
The
city
is
going
to
plant
trees.
That's
a
that's
a
program
answer.
One
of
the
things
you
guys
mentioned
was
education.
G
There's
no
reason
you
can't
have
a
policy
and
a
comprehensive
plan
that
says
something
like
formulate
a
public
education
program
to
establish,
encourage
the
establishment
of
and
maintenance
and
expansion
of
an
urban
canopy,
or
something
like
that.
Shannon
could
help
us
with
that.
You
mentioned
new
development
and
of
course
you
know
we
have
the
tree
ordinance.
That's
that's
kind
of
the
third
piece
right,
that's
the
regulatory
part
of
implementing
the
comp
plan.
G
So
so
that
piece
and
we
have
a
pretty
as
you
guys
might
know-
or
maybe
not
we-
we
do
have
a
pretty
strict
tree
ordinance
compared
to
other
jurisdictions.
Maybe
you've
heard,
I
think
maybe
dunedin
might
be
pretty
much
on
par
with
ours,
but
but
most
others
are
not.
G
But
looking
at
that
section,
you
know
you,
I
would
say,
shannon
and-
and
we've
been
talking
with,
shannon
on
it
we're
looking
at
some
updates.
There
are
obvious
updates
and
it's
an
old
section.
The
list
of
invasive
exotics
is
outdated.
G
You
know
the
list
of
trees
desired
to
be
planted,
that's
outdated,
so
those
are
two
easy
ones
that
shannon
can
jump
on
right
away.
But
if
you
guys
express
and-
and
we
can
bring
information
back
to
you
on
this,
but
if
you're
gonna,
if
you
want
to
express
sort
of
a
desire-
and
I'm
getting
some
of
that
from
you
now
hey-
we
want
new
development
to
result
in
an
overall
just
maintain
the
tree
canopy
in
the
city.
You
know
or
increase
it.
You
know
by
over
over
time.
G
Obviously,
when
the
trees
are
planted,
they
don't
match
the
previous
tree
canopy,
usually
if
there's
a
lot
of
trees,
but
but
you
might
formulate
something
like
that
or
or
desire
that
you
would
express
to
us
and
to
shannon
and
we
could
kind
of
come
up
with
those.
You
know
make
sure
that
we,
when
we
look
at
this
and
bring
it
back
to
you,
that
we're
addressing
those
kinds
of
questions
and
desires
that
you
guys
have
so.
K
K
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
what
pat
said
two
points,
one
she
we're
very
lucky
to
have
her
listening
in
tonight.
She
is
the
one
that
sort
of
organizes
all
of
the
new
development
review
among
all
the
departments.
The
committee's
called
the
trc
made
up
of
staff
technical
review
committee,
so
she's
got
a
lot
of
experience
with
how
these
codes
get
applied
and
what
might
work
and
what
might
not.
So,
I
think
anything
moving
forward.
K
We
want
to
stay
in
touch
with
planet
and
zoning
and
listen
to
them
for
suggestions
on
making
whatever
we
suggest
effective.
The
other
point
I
wanted
to
make
is:
it
could
be
a
good
example
of
not
having
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
There
are
some
very
progressive
cities
in
terms
of
sustainability,
I'm
thinking
of
city
of
orlando,
I
think
the
city
of
saint
pete
even
looks
to
them
as
an
example.
K
L
There
are
developments
in
this
city
in
which
trees
were
placed
were
planted,
as
the
development
was
being
constructed
in
locations
where
their
roots
would
become
a
problem
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
houses
to
the
buildings
etc,
and-
and
this
caused
a
huge
with
one
particular
development
to
the
west
of
where
I'm
sitting,
and
if
you
look
at
bayshore
heights,
which
is
a
very
recent
development,
you
look
at
where
the
the
young
trees
have
been
placed.
L
The
roots
of
those
trees
are
going
to
be
a
problem
because
they've
been
placed
too
close
to
the
houses,
without
apparently
any
foresight
of,
what's
going
to
happen
with
those
trees
in
in
five
ten
years
from
now
they're
going
to
be
removed,
so
we
should
probably
have
some
fairly
specific
language
added
regarding
new
development
and
existing
development.
For
that
matter
in
case
somebody
chooses
to
replace
trees
with
trees
that
are
again
too
close
or
in
in
other
to
buildings
or
streets
or
in
other
ways,
will
not
be
viable.
L
As
far
as
city
streets
are
concerned,
I
want
to
refer
specifically
to
the
renovation
of
court
street
and
let
me
back
up
and
say
that
miami
beach
miami
and
there
are
other
cities
in
florida
that
are
removing
their
palm
trees
and
replacing
their
palm
trees
with
hardwoods
with
shade
trees.
For
obvious
reasons,
because
increasing
heat
is
going
to
be
a
problem
and
palm
trees,
don't
provide
the
same
amount
of
shade.
L
If
you
look
at
the
wording
of
the
of
the
section
in
the
appendix
on
trees,
it's
it
refers
specifically
to
hardwoods
and
evergreens,
but
when
court
street
was
renovated,
they
put
palms
in
and
one
of
the
members
of
the
board
of
commissioners
said.
L
Well,
you
know
palms,
offer
shade
too
yeah
right
and
if
my
grandmother
had
wheels,
she'd
be
a
tricycle,
but
we
could
say
some
specific
things
like
palm
trees
need
to
undergo
a
a
a
process
of
replacement
over
over
time
and
all
new
street
renovations
are
required
to
to
use
shade
trees
rather
than
palm
trees.
We
could
be
fairly
specific
and
see
how
we
do
with
that.
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment,
and
thank
you
for
what
you
just
said.
I
really
that's
perfect.
Robin
mentioned
things
like
retention
ponds
and
often
at
retention
ponds.
They
do
away
with
trees
instead
of
using
retention
ponds
to
create
a
really
attractive
area,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
one
can
do-
and
we
do
have
a
public
art
committee
in
tarpon-
is
to
have
retention,
palms,
be
art,
public
art
projects
and
get
artists
to
design
help
design
with
the
city,
a
beautiful
area
that
includes
trees
and
plants.
I
That
would
thrive
there
and
then
those
become
areas
for
wildlife
which
we
want
and
create
shade
absorb
co2
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and,
and
that
makes
the
city
more
beautiful
and
it.
It
also
thinks
about
art,
public
art
in
a
broader
way.
B
B
Okay,
so
are
there
any
other
comments
on
the
trees
before
we
go
on
to
the
next
section?
Okay?
So
the
next
item
is
wetland
protection
and
I'll
get
us
kicked
off.
I
looked
at
trying
to
find
some
examples
of
other
communities,
wetlands
protections
and
went
to
alachua
county,
and
they
have
this
table
of
wetland
buffers
that
I
thought
we
might
consider
for
recommendations
to
strengthen
the
the
wetlands
buffers
that
are
currently
identified
by
the
city,
and
then
I
also
found
and
I'll
share
with
the
group.
B
This
document,
that
is
from
the
epa
it's
from
2012,
but
I
couldn't
find
a
more
updated
version
of
it,
but
it's
planner's
guide
to
wetlands,
buffers
and
local
governments,
and
actually
it's
2008,
not
12.,
but
it
gives
a
really
good
description
of
the
function
of
wetlands
buffers
and
talks
about
like
what
is
it
that
you're
trying
to
buffer
the
water
way
from
so?
Is
it
sediment?
Is
it
nitrogen?
Is
it
phosphorous?
B
Are
you
trying
to
create
a
habitat
for
wildlife,
and
then
it
also
has
some
oops
in
those
the
distance
that
are
recommended,
and
I
think
at
one
point:
tarpon's
is
15
feet
and,
as
you
can
see,
some
of
these
are
considerably
higher
than
that.
B
So
I
would
definitely
want
to
see
the
city
look
at
making
the
buffer
width
bigger,
and
what
I
noticed
in
an
alachua
is
that
they
have
a
an
average
and
then
also
a
minimum,
and
the
question
I
have
is
they
reference
outstanding
florida
waterways
and
I
could
not
tell
I
looked.
I
tried
to
pull
up
some
different
maps
to
see
if
the
include
river
or
if
the
gulf
is
considered
like
saint
joseph's
sound
there.
If
that's
considered
an
outstanding
waterway,
yes.
K
B
F
B
C
Are
we
looking
at
all
at
permeable
roads
for
better
runoff
control,
and
I
mean
for
anything,
that's
built
in
the
future?
It
might
be
something
worth
looking
at.
I
mean
there
were
some.
There
were
some
entire
residential
sections
in
seattle
when
we
lived
there
that
they
were
designing
them
with
permeable
pavements
and
large
wetland
buffers
between,
so
that
there
wouldn't
be
runoff
that
was
from
the
roads
to
contaminate
landscape,
or
vice
versa.
So.
B
Okay,
then,
let's,
let's
put
a
pin
in
that
and
come
back
to
that
idea,
because
I
think
that
that's
a
great
idea
to
look
at
when
we
talk
about
drainage
and
stormwater
management.
B
Okay,
the
next
section
is
on
excavation
and
fill
and
again
I
I
just
didn't.
Even
I
don't
even
know
what
to
be
asking
her
what
to
be
looking
for.
For
this
just
to
be
totally
honest,
the
only
question
I
had
is
if,
if
the
site
has
submerged
lands
on
it,
is
that
counting
towards
percentages
for
the
property?
And
how
are?
How
are
we
considering.
B
G
I'm
trying
to
follow
where
you
are
so,
are
you
you're
not?
Are
you
using
paul's
table
or
are
you
in
a
land
development
code.
B
I'm
using
paul's
table
so
it's
the
under
buffers,
it's
the
second
one.
So
in
the
land
of
put
it
64
excavation
and
fill
article.
O
B
G
Yeah,
so
I
mean
this
has
to
do
with
this
section
of
code,
really
it's
related
to
anything
that's
affected
once
you
disturb
the
natural
grade
and
the
natural,
the
natural
land,
so
drainage
erosion
control,
elevation
of
a
building,
placing
phil
on
a
site,
removing
phillips
on
a
from
a
site.
That's
what
this
has
to
do
with.
So
it's
kind
of
a
it's
kind
of
a
overall.
G
Kind
of
kind
of
its
own
section
to
stop
people
from
basically,
in
my
experience-
and
this
has
been-
this
has
been
in
every
coat.
I've
ever
worked
with
as
far
as
as
far
as
fill
and
and
removal
of
phil
stop
people
from
altering
grade
without
coming
to
us.
First
is
basically
what
we're
looking
at
there
so
and.
K
One
of
the
reasons,
pat,
is
one
of
the
things
that
will
kill
a
wetland
is
if
all
the
sediment
goes
in
there.
It
really
disrupts
it.
So
if
you
look
in
that
section
part
e,
the
very
last
condition
talks
specifically
about
not
letting
any
kind
of
fill
digging
operations
affect
wetlands
without
going
through
the
processes
to
protect
them.
G
Right
so
I
mean
that's
that's
what
this
section
covers
it,
it's
pretty
standard
stuff,
but
you
know
it's
something
we
could
look
at
for.
You
know
how
it's
working
in
the
city
and
report
back
to
you,
you'd,
like.
B
I
G
Should
I
answer
that
there,
okay,
so
the
city
and
you
may
have
seen
in
the
coastal
element
we
have
what's
called
a.
We
call
it
a
flux
map
and
I'm
going
to
mess
this
up,
but
it's
florida
land
cover
and
forms
classification
system.
I
think-
and
that
is
a
map
that's
been
around
for
years
and
years
it
it
was.
It
was
started
actually
in
probably
the
late
80s
early
90s
and
it's
been
updated
by
the
water
management
district.
G
Now,
as
the
latest
agency
that
that
produced
that
it
was,
it
was
actually
originally
d.o.t
surveying
and
mapping
to
produce
that
that
system,
it's
a
good
system
and
it
classifies
basically
all
the
land
in
florida
as
to
what
its
uses
that
map
shows
natural
habitats
down
to
the
habitat
type
and
it's
updated
every
few
years.
Water
management,
I
believe
2017,
is
their
latest
update
of
the
flux
map
and
those
we
we
have
one
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
but
it's
definitely
outdated,
which
is
one
good
reason
you
don't
want
to
put
up.
G
You
don't
want
to
adopt
as
a
static
map
in
a
comprehensive
plane,
something
that
that
changes
like
that
or
may
have
mistakes
on
it.
But
anyway
we
can
provide
that
mapped
area
of
the
remaining
wetlands
and
natural
uplands
that
are
shown
on
netflux
map.
If
you'd
like.
B
B
So
that's
in
the
comp
plan,
which
we
can
send
that
to
to
everybody
as
a
backup
document.
It's
on
page
126
of
154.
B
Okay,
the
next
one
is
development
developmental
rights,
so
it's
article
9,
section
148
and.
M
B
Okay,
then,
if
we
don't
have
any
other-
and
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
go
back
and
review
some
of
this
once
we
get
some
feedback
and
I
think
maybe
even
going
forward,
it
might
be
good
for
us
to
have
some
recommendations
from
staffs
that
we
can
look
at
it
and
say
this
is
what
we
think
might
be
good,
because
I
don't,
I
don't
know
how
else
to
proceed
with
this
really
effectively.
F
And
also
from
of
what
should
what
would
be
an
easy
way
for
us
to
amend
it
when
things
change
or,
in
other
words
pat
said,
don't
put
anything
in
concrete
if
it's
something
that's
always
shifting
or
something
that
gets
outdated,
real
quickly,
how
we
can
include
things
that
are
to
adapt
to
the
to
the
changing
world,
basically
like
what
is
what
is
concretized
and
what
is
flexible.
Basically,
what
what
we
can
work
with
and
and
change
more
readily
versus
you
know
having
to
go
in
and
reinvent
the
wheel
in
order
to
add
something
new.
G
Yeah
and
just
to
explain
the
difference,
so
the
flux
map,
the
reason
it's
not
good
to
adopt
a
map
like
that
is
because
it's
really
information.
It's
really
data.
It's
not
a
future
plan
right,
like
the
future
land
use
map
that
you're
gonna
adopt.
So
you
could
reference
the
flux
map
without
adopting
the
map.
That's
in
place,
that's
available
that
day
and
say
hey
the
latest
flux
map
is
what
applies
so
that's
how
you
do
it
gotcha.
B
B
It's
the
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
2,
article
13
and
then
at
section
2
230..
It's
talking
about
the
land
preservation
fund.
B
In
chapter
two
under
section
13,
land
preservation
fund-
and
I
believe
it's
here,
because
this
was
an
ordinance
that
created
the
land
preservation
fund
so
that
the
city
could
pay
into
it.
And
the
idea
is
that,
when
city
sells,
land
percentage
of
that
goes
to
a
fund
to
then
purchase
additional
property
that
we
want
to
keep
and
preservation.
B
Okay,
so
I
think
that
the
idea
is
looking
at
this,
and
how
can
we
strengthen
this
so
that
we
are
either
generating
more
funds
for
it
or
finding
a
way
annually
to
figure
out
how
to
disperse
the
funds?
Is
there
a
process
right
now,
pat
that
you
know,
does
the
city
like
have
a
process
where
we're
actively
looking
for
sites
to
purchase
with
the
land
preservation
fund.
F
Dory
at
one
of
the
recent
commission
meetings
vice
mayor
carr
mentioned
that
specifically
he
said
that
when
the
next
budget
rolled
around
he
would
like
to
have
more
dollars
put
into
this
fund
to
purchase
desirable
properties.
As
I
recall
that
was
a
couple
of
months
ago.
Maybe
so
it's
in
it's
in
his
mind
and
it's
in
and
you
know
I
think
it's
going
to
be
coming
up
for
the
commission,
so
it
would
be
a
good.
You
know
dovetail
right.
So.
I
F
F
H
H
How
much
has
it
been
fed
in
there
of
the
past
couple
years
and
and
really
kind
of
an
overview
of
what's
going
on
right
now
with
the
land
preservation
fund,
because,
if
we're,
if
we're
addressing
it
or
looking
at
it
and
saying
you
know
that
this
is
very
pertinent
and
what
have
you
to
be
fair?
I
can
read
all
this,
but
I
have
no
idea
right
now,
what's
incorporated
within
that.
H
Know
yeah,
I
mean
right
now.
I
feel
like
we're
working
with
or
me
personally,
because
I
just
this
is
something
that
I
have.
No
knowledge
on
whatsoever
is
what
lands
are
considered
a
portion
of
that
land
preservation
like
that
we
are
preserving
or
we're
purchasing
and
preserving
how
much
money
is
being
put
in
here
to
either
purchase
that
or
to
be
used
in
preserving
what
we
currently
have.
What
is
the
purpose
of
the
fund?
What
I
mean
in
general?
H
B
Is
there
pat
do
you
know?
I
mean
this:
is
the
land
development
code,
so
there
wouldn't
be
any
other
place
to
look
besides
this
right
here
to
understand
like
who's,
dispersing
whose
responsibility
is
it
to
disperse
it
whose
responsibility
is
it
to
research
and
find,
I
you
know,
identify
appropriate
properties.
G
And-
and
this
isn't
the
code
of
ordinances-
not
not
the
ldc,
so
I
I
would
have
to
find
out.
I
don't
know
what
the
city's
program
is
with
respect
to
this
fund.
F
I
B
And
then
also,
I
just
wondering-
and
I
think
that
I
know
the
answer-
that,
if
property,
if
people
want
to
donate
property,
is
that
identified
here
or
is
that
in
development
rights,
my,
I
think,
wasn't
jesse
burke's
property
donated
to
the
city
and
that's
what
the
community.
B
I
Also,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
happens.
Let's
say
you
donate
land.
There
still
has
to
be
money
available
to
maintain
it
right.
So
it's
not
as
though
that's
free
to
the
city,
so
one
also
wonders
about
this
preservation
fund.
If
some
of
that
funding's
for
maintenance
or
does
that
just
go
into
another
budget.
C
K
I
did
notice
that
section
c
of
that
same
section
does
set
up
a
procedure
for
just
what
we're
talking
about
here.
Real
property
donated
to
the
city
goes
through
an
evaluation
of
if
it's
an
environmentally
sensitive
land
and
can
be
used
for
that
purpose.
So
there
is
some
language
there
undersea.
If
you,
you
know,
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
later
and
see
if
that
meets
some
of
your.
A
F
B
I
am
in
article
2
and
it's
the
section
is
25.19.
B
B
Okay,
so
lc
land
conservation
district
and
then
it
talks
about
figure
19
in
the
coastal
management
plan,
which
was
is
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
that
we've
been
looking
at
earlier
in
the
evening,
and
so
this
is
talking
about
preserving
environmentally
sensitive
land
and
densities
and
permitted
uses
for
that,
and
I
had
a
question
about
I'm
going
to
stop
my
shares
that
I
could
go
to
the
other
tab.
So
I
could
find
my.
B
In
the
comp
plan
on
page
105,
it
has
objective
1.6,
which
is
to
conserve
and
preserve
vegetative
wildlife
and
marine
communities
through
the
transfer
of
density
rights.
So
I
don't
understand
what
density
rights
are,
if
you
could
give
us
some
understanding
of
that,
pat
sorry
to
keep
putting
you
on
the
spot.
Okay,.
G
G
Some
you
know
not.
Every
zoning
has
both
of
those
some
have
just
one
and
some
have
just
the
other.
So
what
what
we
is
so
for
something
like
wetlands
or
the
preservation,
future
land
use.
G
And
still
provide
basic
property
rights
to
the
to
the
property
owner
so
that
that's
what
transferable
development
rights
are,
you
can
transfer
residential
density.
You
can't
really
transfer
commercial
intensity,
pretty
much
just
residential
density
and
that
that's
that's
all
that's
measured
in
dwelling
units
per
acre.
G
Designated
if
someone
transfers
density
out
of
it,
you
mean,
is
that
what
you're
saying?
What,
when
when
does
it
get
rezoned?
If
somebody
is,
has
a
piece
of
property
with
wetlands
on
it
and
we've
had?
Oh,
you
know
three
or
four
larger
developments
in
the
last
couple
of
years
where
this
this
very
thing
has
occurred.
So
there
are
wetlands
on
site.
They
are
preserving
the
wetlands
they're
required
to
put
those
in
a
preservation,
future
land
use
category
and
record.
G
You
know
conservation
easement
on
them
when
they
transfer
the,
if
they're
transferring
units
out
of
those
to
use
on
the
uplands,
so
that
all
occurs
when
they
rezone
the
property
and
amend
the
future
land
use
map.
If
they
need
to
do
that.
K
A
K
G
A
G
That's
the
question
for
me:
okay!
Well,
you
know
the
the
I'm
trying
to
think
if
there's
anything
that
would
be
needed
here,.
G
G
It's
got
very
low
floor
area
and
impervious
surface
area
ratios,
so
it
I
guess
some
what
we
could
do
is
when
we
come
back
at
some
point
we
could
we
could
bring
back
where
those
preservation
and
land
conservation
zonings
are
for
you
to
look
at
and
see
if
there's
something
about
those
areas
that
you
feel
you
want
to
address.
G
Would
that
help
if
you
kind
of
know
where
they
are
and
know
where
we
we
require
them
to
to
be,
and
that
would
be,
we
could
bring
that
back
along
with
you
know,
map
of
of
the
wetlands
that
you've
asked
for
but
yeah,
I'm
not
sure.
If
there's
a
desire
to
do
anything
with
this
section,
what
that
would
be.
B
Okay,
well
then,
let's
put
a
pin
in
this
one
because
and
go
ahead.
C
I
do
have,
I
do
have
a
question
and
it
and
it's
coming
from
a
complete
lack
of
knowledge
in
this.
But
this
you
know,
I
see
the
win.
The
old
win,
dixie
property
all
the
time
and
it's
a
vast
parking
lot.
That's
barely
being
used,
and
I
look
at
that
and
I
think
what
an
opportunity
for
nature
to
reclaim
this,
but
I
have
no
idea
or
for
it
to
be
developed
in
a
way
that
is
more
ecologically
and
sustainably
balanced,
because
it's
nothing
but
a
gigantic
parking
lot
now.
C
Commercial
property.
How
do
you?
How
do
you
approach
that
you
know?
I
know
that
we're
talking
about
privately
owned,
but
in
a
situation
where
you
have
something
that
has
already
been
zoned
for
commercial,
yet
it's
not
being
used
hasn't
been
touched
in
a
long
time.
What
are
the
steps.
G
Yes-
and
you
know,
I
think,
you're
talking
about
manatee
plaza
down
by
mirrors,
you
know
cities
and
counties
and
jurisdictions
grapple
with
that
all
the
time
and
the
way
it's
usually
addressed
is
is
to
try
to
encourage
some
activity.
G
That
property
is
in
the
city
special
area
plan,
and
it's
got
you
know
it
would
you
know
it
hopefully
incentivize
some
kind
of
redevelopment
of
that
property,
as
is
the
focus
of
the
special
air
city
special
area
planet.
G
If
you
guys
know
what
I'm
talking
about
that's
what
the
smart
code
covers
the
special
area
plan
of
the
city,
so
you
know
there
are
different
mechanisms.
Cities
use
to
try
to
encourage
redevelopment
of
these
outdated
and
old
properties
for
tarpon
springs.
That
is
basically
probably
the
primary
mechanism
in
place
right
now
to
try
to
to
redevelop,
encourage
redevelopment
of
that
property,
and
I
know
it's
been
actively
marketed
in
the
past.
G
I'm
not
sure
where
they're
at
with
that,
but
we
have
had
you
know
people
come
in
and
inquire
about
about
what
could
be
done
with
that
property
and-
and
you
know
that's
that's
basically,
the
mechanism
we
have
in
place
is
is
a
platform
for
redevelopment
that
we
hope
some
developer
will
take
advantage
of.
At
some
point.
F
G
Yeah,
the
special
area
plan
allows
a
wide
range
of
uses
and
mix
of
uses.
So
you
know
without
looking
at
that
that
transect
I
I
couldn't
be
more
specific,
but-
and
I
know
you-
we
don't
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
with
that.
But
the
whole
special
area
plant
is
really
designed
to
allow
for
for
the
mix
and
for
both
types,
so
it
could
potentially
allow
any
any
of
those
things
you
just
mentioned,
or.
F
Maybe
like
in
dunedin,
where
they
have
apartments
above
and
and
commercial
below,
like
joe
cocolockus,
didn't
dunedin,
where
the
yeah.
C
To
make
some
sort
of
not
not
a
guideline,
but
an
incentive
to
to
incorporate
the
preservation
of
nature.
In
balance
with
development,
I
mean
it
has
to
be
written
somewhere.
B
And
I
it's
it
needs
to
be
written
in
the
land.
Development
code
is
my
understanding,
but
I
don't
know
that
there's
one
place
in
the
land
development
code
that
needs
all
of
those
things
so
like
that's.
Why
we're
trying
to
go
through
this
land
development
code
and
see
like
so?
If
there
were
wetlands
on
the
property,
then
when
it
gets
redeveloped,
they
would
have
to
be
stronger
than
they
currently
are,
and
we
want
to
see
some
green
infrastructure.
Then
we've
got
to
put
green
infrastructure
like
criteria
specifically
in
the
land
development
code,
so.
C
B
Agree,
but
I
again
I'm
just
and
that's
where
I'm
struggling
is
trying
to
go
through
this
piece
by
piece.
When
I
don't
really
understand
the
ramifications
and
I
don't
really
understand
how
to
improve
it
is
I
don't
think
I
don't.
I
don't
think
this
is
a
real,
effective
use
of
time
honestly,
so
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
regroup
on
how
we
go
through
this
going
forward.
I
I
have
a
question
about
one
thing
that's
mentioned
in
here
and
under
c
conditional
uses
is
golf
courses.
Is
there
someplace
in
this
plan
that
talks
about
golf
courses
and
because
you
know
golf
courses
use
an
awful
lot
of
water
to
maintain
grass
as
opposed
to
trees,
and
things
like
that,
so
it
are.
There
is
there
in
here
a
place
where
it
talks
about
requirements
for
golf
courses
to
be
sustainable.
K
I'll
answer
something
on
that,
as
far
as
I
know,
there's
only
one
golf
course
in
our
city
limits
and
that's
the
tarpon
springs
golf
course,
and
that
golf
course
does
use
reclaimed
water
as
its
irrigation
source.
So
I
think
that
is
pretty
well
done
already,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
anything
else
to
add.
H
Can
I
just
ask
a
question
since
we're
on
that:
do
you
know
fertilizer-wise
what
they
how
they
maintain
the
greens
there,
because
I
know
that's
a
big
problem
and
I'll
skip
our
city,
but
I
believe
innisbrook
because
of
the
maintenance
there,
a
lot
of
their
waters.
The
park
ranger
at
wall
springs
said
they
have
algae
blooms
in
there
a
lot
and
a
lot
of
that
is
water
coming
out
of
from
innisbrook.
So
can
you
touch
space
or
do
you
have
any
idea
fertilizer-wise?
What
they're
doing
out
there.
K
I
can
say
that
our
course
does
have
a
contract
maintenance
company
that
does
the
fertilizer
applications
and
chemical
applications
and
yeah.
I'm
sure
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
fertilizer
applied,
there
are
guidelines,
pinellas
county
establishes
of
the
times
a
year
when
you
shouldn't
be
fertilizing,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
applies
to
our
operation,
but
that's
something
I
can
look
into.
K
I
will
say
you
know
I
do
observe
what
we
have
there
and
there's
not
like
a
duckweed
kind
of
problem
that
you
would
normally
see
that
might
have
something
to
do
with
the
brackish
nature
of
some
of
that
water.
But,
as
far
as
I
see,
I
don't
see
a
real
problem,
at
least
on
the
coarse
bodies
that
would
reference
something
like
that
they
do
have
a
lot
of
natural
cattail
systems.
K
In
fact,
there
was
a
wetlands
mitigation
project
at
the
golf
course,
perhaps
five
or
more
years
ago,
as
part
of
a
development
they
offered
to
come
in
and
do
work
on.
Our
golf
course
to
add
wetlands
and
those
sorts
of
things,
and
so
you'll
see
that
around
the
ponds,
and
I
think
that
really
does
help
absorb
the
nutrients
before
it
gets
into
the
water.
K
B
Okay,
I'm
going
to
recommend
that
we
stop
going
through
this
ldc
at
this
point
because
we're
running
low
on
time,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
work
through
how
we're
going
to
continue
addressing
this,
because
I,
like
I
said
I
I
personally
feel
like
this-
is
not
probably
the
best
way
to
approach
this.
B
So
if
you
guys
are
okay
with
that
and
then,
if
you
have
recommendations
on
how
you
would
like
to
be
giving
input
to
the
land
development
code
going
forward,
then
please
reach
out
to
paul
and
share
those
ideas.
Unless
you
have
something
right
now
as
an
idea
of
what
we
can
be
doing
differently.
With
this.
M
I
I
And
work
on
some
I
mean
this
is
huge
so
and
it's
hard
to
do
in
a
venue
like
this,
but
at
least
we
work
through
one
or
two
together,
maybe
it'd
be
easier,
but
I
think
everyone's
recognized.
We
need
an
expert
for
each
one.
K
Yes,
if
I
could
make
a
suggestion
and
I'm
agreeing
with
what
what
I'm
hearing
here,
you
know
we
when
we
first
started
out,
I
pictured
everyone
doing
their
redline
comments
on
the
land
development
code
and
turning
them
in
and
somehow
we
compile
them
all.
But
I
think
that
was
not
a
realistic
expectation
and
I
can
appreciate
how
complex
it
is
now
that
we're
into
the
details
so
putting
all
that
together,
what
I'm
thinking
we're
heading
towards.
K
Is
you
all
just
as
you've
done
some
tonight,
we
short
list
a
series
of
things
that
you
all
would
like
to
see
addressed
in
the
land
development
code.
We
work
with
planet
and
zoning,
who
I
consider
the
experts
in
how
this
is
applied,
and
then
we
come
back
to
you
with
some
of
the
changes
we're
proposing.
B
So
I'd
like
to
set
like
a
parameter
for
that
for
the
land
development
code
work
to
maybe
like
limit
it
to
half
an
hour
per
meeting,
because
I
really
feel
like
we
need
to
be
moving
much
faster
with
threading
the
sustainability
action
plan,
and
I
think
that,
as
we
write
the
plan,
we
can
identify.
Okay,
like
like
trees.
How
do
we
strengthen
the
tree
ordinance?
What
is
it
specifically
and
then
staff
to
make
those
recommendations?
F
Well,
dory,
I
agree,
and
I
agree
with
what
paul
smith
said
too,
if
we
could
have-
and
I
hope
I'm
getting
this
right
paul
if
we
could
have
a
short
list
of
of
things
to
work
on,
but
you
know
our
wishes
dory.
So
what
I
would
recommend
or
suggest
is
that
you
work
with
paul
and
give
you
give
us
some
guidance
as
chair
of
where
to
begin.
C
B
B
So,
okay,
so
then
paul
and
I
will
talk
about
for
next
meeting
and
I
think
we
all
now
have
maybe
a
better
understanding
too
of
where
to
find
these
things
and
how
to
go
through
it
and
look
at
it
and
try
to
keep
it
a
little
more
topical
topics
that
we
might
feel
comfortable
weighing
in
on
okay.
So,
let's
move
along
then
to
the
natural
systems,
preference
review.
O
Was
okay,
so
I
have
everything
up
on
the
screen
here.
Dory
did
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
or
do.
E
B
O
Yeah,
I
think
it's
something
I'd
actually
have
to
work
on,
and
then
I
can
send
it
out
to
you
guys
to
get
the
actual
numbers
for
each
one.
B
Okay,
if
you
could
work
on
that
by
perhaps
even
before
the
next
meeting
and
then
share
that,
so
that
everybody
can
see
and
then,
if
you
didn't,
get
a
chance
to
fill
it
in.
Yet,
if
you
could,
please
do
that
so
that
we
all
have
an
idea
of
what
we're
thinking
about
that
and
then
I
also
would
like
to
try
to
keep
us
moving
along
with
it
and
the
next.
B
M
B
B
That's
what
I
thought
it
was
climate
and
energy,
so
if
we
could
also
start
going
through
the
star
document
and
looking
at
the
outcomes
and
the
local
actions
for
climate
and
energy
and
then
ashley,
if
you
could
create
another
document
similar
to
what
you
did
for
natural
systems,
so
that
we
can
provide
that
feedback
to
you
sure,
then
we
can.
And
if
that
can
be
tabulated
by
the
next
meeting
too,
then
we
can
start
going
through
that
as
well.
K
And
what
we
can
do
dory
is
we'll
take
a
look
at
incidents.
In
other
words,
how
often
did
people
pick
the
same
thing
and
we
can
do
a
couple
of
versions
and
say
you
know
if
something
showed
up
three
times
from
three
members
here:
here's
what
it
would
look
like
you
know
this
is
a
way
to
narrow
it
down
to
the
areas
of
most
interest,
just
a
thought.
A
H
The
urban
ones
are
very
important.
I
commented
to
ashley
on
my
feedback
to
her
was
the
way
I
was
ranking
mine
or
putting
my
outcomes
and
actions
in
was
based
on
some
conversation
we
had
had
before,
but
where
we
were
using
the
term
waterways
right.
O
H
We
were
changing
to
waterways,
so
my
mine
came
with
a
little
asterisk
next
to
it
that
mine
was
not.
My
answers
were
not
based
on
working
lands
as
much
as
it
was.
B
And
I
think
it's
because,
like
we
discussed
before,
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
an
objective
for
every
one
of
these
things.
So
that's
why
I
felt
comfortable
leaving
off
working
lands
and
leaving
off
air.
But
if
other
people
disagree
with
me,
then
I
don't
want
to
be
the
decider
of
you
know,
but
I
think
that
there's
quite
enough
with
green
infrastructure,
biodiversity,
invasive
species,
natural
resource
protection
and
water
in
the
environment
that
I.
H
M
B
B
Okay,
so
do
we
all
understand
so
next
month
we're
going
to
have
a
look
at
the
the
ranking
for
the
star
system
for
natural
systems
that
ash
is
going
to
provide
to
us
and
then
we'll
talk
through
which
we
want
to
try
to
prioritize,
and
then
we
can
actually
just
start
writing
the
that
section
of
the
action
plan
and
then
also
ashley
will
provide
us
with
the
chart
that
we
can
fill
in
for
climate
and
energy,
so
we'll
go
through
the
star
document
and
identify
our
preferences
for
the
objectives
and
for
the
local
actions
for
each
one
of
the
climate
and
energy
components,
and
then
she
can
compile
that
as
well
by
next
meeting,
and
hopefully
we
can
come
to
consensus
and
maybe
do
two
for
the
price
of
one
we'll
see.
B
F
Well,
focus
I
like
the
idea
of
just
getting
it
down
to
what
what's
the
consensus.
What's
the
you
know,
where
should
our
focus
be
and
the
just
guidance
of
giving
us
some
more
of
a
way,
a
place
to
look,
because
I
you
know
everything,
I'm
everything
sounds
good
to
me.
You
know,
and
I
I
know
that's
not
realistic,
but.
B
Okay,
so
then,
the
next
item
on
the
dory
before.
L
We
leave
this
topic.
I've
got
I'd
like
to
back
up
a
little
bit
because
of
some
conversations
that
I've
had
with
someone
who's
somewhat
of
an
authority
on
things
like
star,
etc.
Brooke,
hanson,
who's
faculty
at
the
patel
college
of
sustainability
at
usf,
I've
talked
with
her
a
couple
of
times.
I
shared
some
of
the
information
with
the
committee
on
led.
L
Overall
of
us
using
star
as
a
framework
because
she
says
that
it
is
no
longer
used
by
the
county
that
we're
in
and
by
the
municipalities
like
dunedin,
etc.
She
states
that
it
is
an
antiquated
system
that
no
one
uses
anymore.
Now
we
know
that
saint
pete's
plan
uses
not
only
the
the
verbiage
all
in
star
but
also
went
for
the
brownie
points
too,
for
the
certification,
but
her
she's.
L
Her
concern
is
that
we're
going
to
be
using
an
antiquated
system
and
that
we
will
not
be
able
to
communicate
with
our
own
counties
system
which
will
be
based
on
lead,
and
she
says
and
and
if
you'll
recall
last
october
ramona,
who
was
one
of
the
two
consultants
from
university
florida
ifas
sea
grant
for
the
listening
sessions,
told
us
in
that
meeting
that
star
was
no
longer
being
used
that
had
been
replaced.
L
B
I
really
feel
like
we
need
to
address
it
and
like
kind
of
put
it
to
bed
and
quit,
bringing
it
up,
because
we
have
already
started
down
this
path
and
we
are
really
kind
of
getting
hung
up
on
semantics.
I
think
with
this,
because
the
baseline
data
that
we're
going
to
be
capturing
and
that
we're
using
with
star
is
the
same
thing
as
with
lead
with
lead,
there's
components
that,
like
cities,
try
to
gain
points
and
things
like
that.
We're
not
trying
to
do
that.
M
L
C
C
What
we
received,
I
think,
a
couple
of
months
ago
we
received
the
format
for
that.
C
What
I
thought,
what
I
understood
was
that
we
weren't
going
to
try
to
go
for
any
type
of
certification,
but
we're
just
using
the
language
or
the
guidelines
from
either
star
or
lead
just
for
writing
the
plan,
but
we
aren't
participating.
Are
we.
N
C
In
getting
certification,
because
that
kind
of
puts
us
under
an
umbrella
of
forced
compliance
and
to
some
degree,
financial
output
in
order
to
participate
correct,
is
that
my
am
I
correct
in
understanding
that
so
because,
because
we
aren't
participating
in
the
certification
process,
we're
just
looking
at
guidelines
for
development
of
our
plan,
not
even
necessarily
referencing.
L
Yeah,
that's
been
the
argument
all
along
denise,
and
that
is
the
argument
that
I
use
defending
our
decisions
with
dr
hansen
yeah.
She
didn't
think
that
was
a
logical
argument.
Do
we
want
to
hear
from
her
on
this
regard.
L
You
know
I've
I've
been
in
the
situation
of
defending
our
decision
and
saying
you
know
we're
not
looking
for
the
brownie
points,
we're
not
looking
for
certification,
we're
simply
using
the
the
verbiage
and
the
structure
to
write
a
plan
and
she
thought
you're
going
to
regret
this
down
the
line.
B
I
I'm
I'm
interested
in
proceeding
the
way
that
we
have
been
because
I
I'm
personally
I'm
just
going
to
be
very
honest.
I'm
really
frustrated
that
we
don't
have
half
the
plane
written
at
this
point
so
any
time
we
continue
to
rehash
and
have
these
conversations
I
think,
is
slowing
us
down
and
not
getting
us
to
an
end
point.
K
I'd
also
like
to
add,
I
think,
to
proceed
forward
with
a
different
like
a
lead
type
approach,
there's
going
to
be
money
outlay
required
by
the
city,
and
I
really
am
concerned
that
that's
going
to
be
a
barrier
for
us
going
to
the
board
asking
for
money
to
write
our
plan
when
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
use
an
established
table
of
contents
to
get
our
plan
going
and
without
the
need
for
a
certification.
K
So
I
I
think
that
there's
concerns
going
that
way.
I
would
also
think,
based
on
the
way
things
have
gone
for
us,
to
think
that
leed
will
be
forever
the
right
way
to
go,
not
so
sure
about
that
either
I
mean
they
probably
said
that
about
star
when
that
was
coming
out.
So
I
think
to
try
to
make
us
future
proof.
I
don't
think
is
realistic
either.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
in
mind
what
we're
doing
is
using
an
established.
K
If
you
read
that
introduction
to
the
star
workbook
and
they
talk
about
the
years,
they
went
through
working
with
cities,
developing
that
basically
outline
and
then
testing
it
and
coming
back
and
revising
version
two,
which
is
what
we're
working
with
now
I
mean
this
is
a
time-tested
approach.
Is
there
something
newer
and
different
and
coming
out?
Yes,
but
I
can
tell
you
they're
substantially
similar
in
the
way
that
this
newer
one
even
says:
look,
we
can
take
your
star
framework
and
apply
it
to
this
new
system,
so
I
don't
think
we're
wasting
our.
F
Time
like
us
to
move
forward,
I
think
that
we're,
if,
if
all
we're
looking
at,
is
this
structure
like
the
skeletal
structure
of
it,
we're
not
looking
at
the
final
outfit,
that's
being
put
on
the
structure,
we're
looking
at
the
bones
of
it,
correct,
correct
and
those
aren't.
Those
have
not
changed.
They're
always
going
to
be
green
infrastructure.
There's
always
going
to
be
air
quality.
There's
always
going
to
be
those.
You
know
the
same
things.
I
think
that
we're
adapting
it
just
like
you
did
changing
working
lands
to
working
waters
and
things
like
that.
F
I
I'd
kind
of
with
dory
I'd
just
like
to
keep
going
with
this,
and
I
don't
think
we're
in
going
to
dig
ourselves
into
a
hole
with
it.
I
don't
think
we're
using
things
that
are
so
antiquated
that
they
don't
apply.
I
think
everything
is
is
relevant
enough
to
where
we
are.
F
You
know,
if
there's,
if
there's
new
information
that
will
help
us
amend
what
we're
doing
great
but
and
I'd
be
open
to
listening
to
how
to
make
it
better,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
going.
You
know
keep
going
the
way
we've
been
going
basically
get
going.
I
agree
with
you
about
the
sustainability
action
plan.
We
need
to
get
something.
B
H
H
I
may
regret
saying
this.
I
don't
think
there's
a
right
or
wrong
framework
to
start
the
building
and
the
conversations
that
we're
having
and
I
I
feel
like
we're
heading
in
a
great
direction
with
breaking
these
sections
down
and
making
them
work
for
tarpon
springs.
H
So,
but,
having
said
that,
I
I
will
say
I
don't
know
anything
about
the
lead
program,
the
lead
framework
and
and
to
be
fair.
When
I
started
this,
I
knew
nothing
about
the
star
framework,
so
you
know
I,
I
think
we
kind
of
keep
going
with
how
we're
going,
and
that
would
be
my
my
opinion
is.
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
start
making
more
forward
progress
towards
completing
a
section
of
a
system.
H
M
H
L
Aye
all
right
dory
since
we're
going
to
be
specific.
Can
I
ask
you
a
couple
questions
about
your
evaluation,
your
decisions.
L
L
They
don't
have
definitions
of
that.
They
they
don't
have
a
section
in
which
these
these
terms
are
are
defined.
L
Moving
on
from
there,
you
chose
not
to
do
action,
five
partnerships
and
collaboration
not
to
use
action,
nine
to
upgrade
public
spaces
in
public
buildings
and
and
I'm
just
curious
of
your
thinking,
you
chose
not
to
use
those
particular
actions
in
this
one
instance
and
you're.
The
chairman,
I'm
just
curious.
Why.
B
B
Specific
language-
and
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
hold
ourselves
to
whatever
star
is.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
this
with
our
city
staff
and
identifying
what
we'd
like
to
see-
and
I
did
I
think,
did
I
shared
the
what
I
some
different
ideas
of
what
green
infrastructure
could
look
like?
Was
that
distributed?
Did
you
guys?
Did
everybody
see
that.
H
O
But
yeah
it
is,
the
green
infrastructure
is
actually
a
word
document
should
be
attached
right.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
I
All
of
this
is
for
the
committee
to
write
an
action
plan
correct
for
and
to
give
it
to
the
commission
correct.
So
what
form
is
the
action
plan
going
to
be?
Is
it
going
to
be
these
itemized
like
in
the
star
outcomes
and
actions,
or
are
we
going
to?
I
Is
it
going
to
be
written
up
more
as
a
in
prose
with
explanations,
and
I'm
asking
that,
because,
when
I'm
going
through
this
these
little
sentences,
I
would
like
them
to
be
fleshed
out
a
little
more
to
so
that
you
know
we
can
understand
what
they
actually
mean
and
because
how
I
read
it
may
be
very
different
from
how
robin
understands
it,
because
they're
they're
very
vague.
I
You
know.
So
I
guess
I
want
to
if
I
could
have
a
picture
of
what
we're
going
for
that.
I
think
would
be
helpful
to
me
in
terms
of
how
I'm
looking
at
this
and
how
I
might
respond
to
to
what
I'm
reading
in
the
star.
I
And
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
where
that
is
so
that
and
I've
opened
everything
I've
gotten
and
I
save
it
now.
That's
not
in
this
green
infrastructure
for
tarpon
springs.
That's
in
that
same.
I
I
H
If
you
click
on
that,
it'll
give
you,
I
believe,
that's
the
saint
pete
one
that
you
just
recently
sent
correct.
B
Yeah,
it
is
it's
number
four
in
that
email,
it
says.
Dory
has
shared
a
document
regarding
green
infrastructure,
as
well
as
a
link
to
the
integrated
sustainability
action
plan,
technical
report
for
the
city
of
st
petersburg,
and
that
link
is
kind
of
an
example.
I
think,
of
what
we're
trying
to
write.
But
I
think
your
point
is
similar
to
paul
robinson's.
B
Is
that,
like
the
language
that
we're
using,
we
need
to
make
sure
that,
when
we
like
next
month,
when
you
come
with
your
recommendations,
be
prepared
to
discuss
like
like,
I
gave
the
example
with
the
green
infrastructure
like
when
I'm
thinking
about
green
infrastructure.
This
is
what
I'm
thinking
about.
Is
that
in
alignment
with
what
you're
thinking
about
and
then
how
do
we
take
that
and
ensure
that
that
vision
is
codified
in
the
land
development
code,
so
that
we're
to
your
point
denise
when
a
new
development
comes
in?
B
H
Can
I
just-
and
maybe
this
is
not
an
appropriate
suggestion,
but
because
carol
came
in
a
little
bit
late,
it
may
be
beneficial
for
her
to
have
access
to
the
sarasota
plan
and
the
west
palm
plan,
like
all
the
things
that
we
kind
of
saw
up
front.
So
we
kind
of
had
this
idea
of
not
reinventing
the
wheel
and
a
vision
of
what
was
coming
out
as
well
as
our
all
that
work
that
we
did
for
the
introductory
portion.
I
I
B
I
Is
very
helpful
because
that
gives
me
a
sense
of
what
the
final
report
could
look
like
and
how
to
think
about
this
so
and
I
think
the
points
well
taken
being
new.
It's
like
pretty.
K
I
wanted
to
make
a
quick
a
quick
point
about
that
too
carol
is
that
our
city
web
page
sustainability,
has,
I
think,
most
of
that
listed
on
the
same
page
under
resources,
so
that
would
be
a
great
first
stop,
for
you
is
to
open
up
all
those
links
and
see.
I
believe
the
st
pete
report
has
been
added
there
as
well,
but
also
those
previous
ones
that
we
looked
at.
That
karen
mentioned.
I
Yes,
I
think
I'm
aware
of
that.
It's
just
that.
I'm
there's
a
lot.
One
has
to
go
step
by
step,
and
this
is.
B
Just
a
quick
kind
of
overview,
we
looked
at
sarasota's,
theirs
was
a
climate
action
plan
and
we
looked
at
largos
and
theirs
was
an
environmental
action
plan.
B
St
pete's
is
a
sustainability
action
plan,
so
it
goes
a
little
bit
further
and
it
looks
more
holistically
at
some
of
the
human
like
if,
when
you
look
at
sustainability
as
like
the
three
pillars
of
like
people,
places
and
economy
or
economics-
or
you
know
how
you,
how
that
piece,
the
sustainability
plan
in
st
pete
and
what
we
were,
what
we
agreed
to
to
do
is
just
to
pull
more
of
that
human
element
in
and
that's
why,
like
you
see
the
health
and
safety
and
the
equity
and
empowerment
and
the
arts
and
education,
as
well
as
the
environmental
factors
and
then
also
the
economy
and
jobs,.
O
B
So
so
that's
kind
of
you
know
we
were
looking
at
all
these
different
ideas
and
then
what
we've
coalesced
around
is
making
a
comprehensive
sustainability
action
plan
and
then
the
example
of
that
that
we
have
to
look
at
is
st
pete,
but
there's
others
and
like
to
paul's
point.
If
there
are
sections
in
the
lead
that
we
feel
are
more
strict,
that
we
would
rather
meet
those
targets.
B
I
think
that
we
should
be
incorporating
that
too,
but
it's
just
the
the
this
framework
is
basically
like
robin
said:
it's
a
skeleton
of
how
we
want
to
lay
out
this
document
so
that
we
are
able
to
focus
the
targets
again,
tie
it
to
the
land
development
code,
because
what
I
was
when
I
was
looking
at
the
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
city's
comp
plan.
B
A
lot
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
have
in
here
like
are
already
in
the
comp
plan
like
preserving
habitat
and,
like
those
kind
of
like
you,
know,
overlying
things
that
make
tarpon
beautiful
and
desirable
they're
already
there.
We
just
need
to
find
ways
to
tweak
the
land
development
code
to
strengthen
it,
so
that
we
have
those
kind
of
outcomes
that
we
want
to
see.
B
You,
okay,
so
any
other
questions
about
about
that
about
next
steps
for
for
next
month.
Okay,
all
right!
So
then
quick
update
on
the
energy
efficiency
resolution
to
the
public
service.
Commission,
paul
smith,
did
a
really
good
job
of
laying
out
for
the
board
of
commissioners.
B
What
we
were
trying
to
accomplish
in
requesting
the
public
service
commission
take
a
look
at
the
rulemaking
procedure
and
the
city
did
go
ahead
and
approve
the
resolution,
so
they're
going
to
be
sending
a
letter
to
the
public
service.
Commission,
that's
attached
to
the
docket,
that's
open
with
the
recommendation
of
trying
to
improve
energy
efficiency,
and
the
commission
was
thankful
to
our
committee
and
wanted
me
to
relay
to
each
of
you
their
appreciation
for
us.
Taking
this
up.
B
Another
thing
that
was
brought
up
by
public
comment
that
I
thought
was
kind
of
interesting
and
worth
mentioning
now
is
that,
in
addition
to
you
know
a
resolution,
the
way
that
the
city
has
done
a
really
great
job,
with
ashley's
toilet
program
of
trying
to
conserve
water.
There
are
programs
that
the
city
could
help
fund
to
also
increase
energy
efficiency.
B
So
that's
something
that
maybe,
as
we
look
at
climate
and
energy,
I
think
one
of
the
things
in
there
are
looking
at
waste
and
minimization
and
looking
at
greenhouse
gas.
So
maybe
just
kind
of
putting
that
bug
in
your
ear
is
something
to
look
at
as
a
recommendation
for
increasing
energy
efficiency.
Not
just
you
know,
sending
the
the
letter,
but
also
like
actions
that
the
city
can
take.
B
I
think
that's
going
to
be
in
the
section
that
we're
looking
at
for
the
next
month
as
well,
so
anything
else
paul
that
I
left
off
on
that.
K
Just
a
quick
addition
to
that,
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
I.
I
did
share
our
letter
draft
with
the
southeast
sustainability
directors
network
and
they
said
it
was
a
really
good
good
letter
good
package
by
the
city.
So
I
think
the
city's
looking
strong
on
the
sustainability
front
by
participating
in
this
with
their
own
package
being
submitted
to
the
commission.
F
Dory
so
just
circling
back
to
next
month.
I
just
made
a
couple
of
notes,
so
it's
ranking
the
star
system,
natural
systems
and
prioritize.
Those
is
that
correct.
B
So
we
are
going
to
be
ranking
if
you
haven't
already
the
natural
systems
and
then
ashley's
going
to
compile
that
and
then
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion.
So
let
me
just
move
this
to
the
item
to
number
six,
which
is
items
for
next
agenda
gotcha.
So
we
can
be
doing
this
in
the
right
order.
So
for
next
month
natural
systems
ashley
is
going
to
have
it
compiled
and
then
we
will
go
through
and
try
to
come
up
with
our
definitions.
B
B
And
then
also
we're
going
to
look
at
climate
and
energy
so
go
through
the
star
system
segment
on
climate
and
energy
and
and
paul
robinson,
if
there
are,
if
you
want
to
try
to
look
at
pull
other
elements
that
you
think
need
to
be
strengthened
or
something
that's
not
in
this,
then
that
would
be
a
good
idea
to
bring
to
the
conversation
as
well.
I
think,
because
you
know
like
we
said
this
is
not
like
the
we
have
to
robotically
follow
this.
If
there's
other
things
that
we
think
fit
in
here.
B
I
think
that
that's
worth
having
the
conversation
at
that
point.
Yes,
so
and
then
paul
smith,
and
I
will
work
on
trying
to
identify
some
parts
of
the
land
development
code
that
tie
into
climate
and
energy,
and
then
I
think,
going
back
and
looking
at
maybe
another
take
another
swipe
at
natural
systems
with
the
lens
of
green
infrastructure
and
where
green
infrastructure
can
be
strengthened
in
the
land
development
code.
B
So
be
on
the
lookout
for
for
that,
and
I
think
that
we
would
want
to
just
be
able
to
kind
of
peruse
it
through
our
the
our
best
understanding
that
we
can
and
be
prepared
to
ask
questions
of
planning
staff
so
that
they
can
help
us
figure
out.
The
best
way
to
incorporate
those
ideas.
F
B
K
Dory,
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
start
considering
it's
pretty
late
now,
but
the
report
to
the
board
of
commissioners
just
on
what
we're
working
on
just
put
out
there
perhaps
may
as
a
straw
man,
but
that's
just
something
to
be
thinking
about.
We
could
talk
about
that
at
the
next
meeting.
If
you
want
make
that
a
brief
item.
K
I've
got
one
I
wanted
to
report
back
on
where
that
tree
event
was
on
the
website.
So
what
you
need
to
do
is
go
to
departments
on
the
city
website
and
under
leisure
and
recreation.
You
click
on
that
subfolder
and
it
takes
you
to
recreation
events,
and
so
then,
when
you
click
on
that
it
actually
comes
up
there.
So,
but
also
I
thought,
ashley
had
a
great
point
about.
We
got
to
use
that
search
bar
and
that
gets
you
right
to
it
as
well,
but
each
way
you've
got
the
sign
up,
form
included.
I
It
came
out
on
tuesday
and
I
I've
started
to
read
it
and
it's
incredibly
well
written
and
very
understandable.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
think
it's
worth
reading.
N
L
I
K
D
B
I'll
say
that
I
participated,
I
think
everybody
was
sent.
The
there
wasn't
a
good
way
to
send
it,
because
it
was
a
facebook
event
that
you
have
to
be
part
of
the
tarpon
springs
community
to
be
able
to
click
on
but
participated
in
a
beach
cleanup
at
fred
howard
park
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
there
were
about
30
people
in
the
community
that
showed
up
to
do
it
and
it
was.
B
B
But
if
someone
else
is
organizing
it
and
we
can
just
help
spread
the
word
officially
as
a
channeled
city,
then
I
think
that
that
is
a
great
solution
and
they
were
wanting
to
continue
them
and
so
I'll
make
sure
that
that
I'm
communicating
that
through
through
paul
and
ashley,
so
that,
if
you
guys
do
want
to
participate
that
you
have
that
information.
B
But
we
clean
up
a
ton
of
trash
and
it
was
funny
because
we
were
like
this
park
is
so
clean,
there's
nothing
here
and
when
you
get
down
in
the
but
mangroves
I
mean
I
picked
up
a
cooler
top.
That
was
like
this
big,
so
so
that
was
just.
I
think,
one
one
way
that
we
can
kind
of
partner
with
things
that
are
already
happening
in
the
community.
B
Exactly
get
some
more
community
feedback
yep
all
right.
Well
then,
I
guess
we
will
go
ahead
and
call
the
meeting
adjourned
at
8
25..
Thank
you
all.