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Description
House Business and Utilities Subcommittee - February 16, 2022 - House Hearing Room 3
A
A
B
A
All
right,
if
there's
nothing
else,
we
do
have
a
few
administrative
items
we
need
to
take
care
of,
and
that
is
item
number
three
has
been
rolled
one
week
and
we
do
have
a
calendar.
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
that
up
item
number
one
house
bill,
2176,
representative
campbell,
you
are
recognized,
we
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
representative
campbell,
you
recognized
on
your
bill.
Thank.
B
You,
mr
chairman,
and
members,
this
bill
is
an
administration
bill.
It
amends
last
year's
tennessee
registered
apprenticeship
program
act.
This
removes
the
specific
youth
apprenticeship
category
references,
as
required
by
the
united
states
department
of
labor
as
part
of
tennessee's
path
to
becoming
a
state
apprenticeship
agency,
and
this
change
does
not
affect
the
age
qualification
for
apprentices
apprentices.
Thank
you.
A
Sponsor
thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Members.
Do
we
have
any
question
for
the
sponsor
on
his
bill?
If
not,
we
are
voting
to
send
house
bill
2176
to
full
commerce,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it.
Your
bill
is
on
its
way
to
full
commerce.
Thank
you.
Next
up
is
item
number
two.
That's
house
bill,
1713
by
speaker,
marshall,.
A
C
Mr
chairman,
this
bill
makes
the
government
work
better
by
allowing
the
utility
management
review
board
to
initiate
either
a
consolidation
or
a
merger
among
utility
districts
that
benefit
the
ratepayers
of
a
financially
distressed
district.
Before
the
umrb
can
finalize
the
merger,
a
feasibility
study
must
be
completed.
That
recommends
the
merger.
C
A
public
hearing
shall
be
conducted
in
the
financially
distressed
district,
and
the
umrb
board
must
make
a
determination
that
the
merger
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
of
the
right
players.
Furthermore,
the
bill
clarifies
that
the
utility
district,
revital
rate
revitalization
fund
can
be
used
to
mitigate
short-term
financial
impacts
from
the
board-initiated
consolidation
or
merger.
A
Any
questions
speaker
marsh.
Thank
you
for
that
explanation
and
because
of
these
hearings,
we've
been
having.
We
should
all
know
what
the
umrb
is
and
and
do
we
have
any
questions
for
speaker
marsh
if
not
and
speaker
marsh,
the
comptroller's
office
has
been
by,
and
they
have
assured
me
that
this
is
a
terrific
bill
and
so
members
we
are
voting
on
house
bill.
1713
descended
full
commerce,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no
eyes
have
it.
Bill
goes
to
full
commerce.
D
A
E
E
The
autoclave
that
was
mentioned
is
represented
as
a
marketing
component
on
the
medical
for
their
industry
as
an
autoclave
to
sanitize
and
sterilize,
but
when
it's
regarding
the
boilers
and
where
it
actually
comes
down
for
us,
our
issue
with
the
legislation
is
regarding
the
ability
to
properly
inspect
these
devices
that
there
are
two
boilers
that
there
is
the
top
unfired
pressure
vessel.
That's
actually
sanitizing
and
sterilizing
as
well
as
the
bottom
has
a
power
boiler,
and
for
us
that's.
E
Another
piece
that
I
do
want
to
touch
on
as
well
is,
I
know
the
conversation
has
been
had
about
the
technology
and
components
there
for
us
technology
wise.
Our
board
are
the
experts
for
the
state
when
it
comes
to
boilers
and
the
technology
there,
and
that's
our
tennessee
board
of
boiler
safety,
as
well
as
our
reference
to
the
standards
that
we
follow.
E
Go
back
to
the
national
board
standard
and
the
national
standard
is
something
that's
reviewed
every
two
years
along
with
the
american
society
of
mechanical
engineers,
they
review
all
the
components
for
these
and
boilers
that
are
out
there.
Everything
from
pre-construction
to
post-installation,
because
as
soon
as
a
boiler
is
turned
on
and
begins
service
that
it
begins
to
deteriorate
at
that
time.
And
so
we
just
want
to
come
to
you
all
that
we
do
have
safety
concerns
about
being
able
to
properly
inspect
the
devices
and
we're
here
to
take
any
questions.
Tia.
A
D
Mr
chair
committee,
I'd
like
to
maybe
just
offer
a
different
viewpoint.
First
of
all,
once
you
understand
that
this
sterilizer
that
considered
an
autoclave
has
been
approved
by
the
fda,
the
tennessee
hospital
association,
the
tennessee
ambulatory,
surgical
center
association,
tennessee
chapter
professional
engineers,
all
support
this
legislation,
and,
if
I,
if
with
your
indulgence
I'll
just
tell
you
briefly,
this
sterilizer
has
one
approach
to
it.
D
If
there
is
something
that
would
be
manifest
on
the
outside
of
the
sterilizer,
it
would
manifest
itself
on
the
inside
to
begin
with,
so
there's
no
need
for
that
to
be
out
also,
in
addition
for
you,
I
want
you
to
know
that
this
has
been
used
in
26
states
here
in
america
without
incident.
So
far,
so
I'll
stand
for
questions.
B
D
Yes,
sir
chairman
holtzclaw,
it
does
and
in
addition,
on
top
of
having
all
the
safety
requirements
that
you
would
think
would
with
something
was
type
of
pressure.
It
also
has
a
printout
that
every
time
it's
used
that
comes
out
and
shows
you
if
there's
been
any
fluctuation
in
the
pressure
that
it's
supposed
to
go
to
the
exact
same
pressure
every
time
it
turns
on
the
exact
same
seam,
everything
has
to
come
to
the
exact
same
place.
If
it
doesn't
do
that,
it
immediately
will
shut
off
and
it
will
print
out.
F
A
F
So
if
there
is
zero
clearance
and
it's
against
the
wall
and
a
hospital
like
ut
medical,
which
would
probably
require
five
of
these,
if
they've
got
five
against
the
wall,
five
against
each
other,
zero
clearance,
even
if
you
could
inspect
behind
these,
you
are
going
to
find
just
a
panel.
And
if
you
remove
the
panel,
just
insulation,
correct
chairman
faison,.
D
D
What
are
you
hoping
to
see
if
you
are
able
to
see
the
back
and
and
I
never
could
get
an
answer
after
spending
an
hour
with
them,
except
that
there's
metal
and
then
and
then,
if
you
opened
up
the
middle
you'd
find
insulation,
but
there's
truly
nothing
to
be
able
to
see
on
the
outside
that
you
couldn't
see
that
was
already
manifested
from
the
inside.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
G
G
Standards,
thank
you
for
the
word
than
what
the
manufacturer
is
seeking,
but
that
shows
me
that,
even
on
the
board,
those
folks
who
deal
with
this
on
a
daily
basis,
you
know
it
was
a
very
close
vote
and
again
I
guess
I'm
just
I
want
us
to
make
sure.
Obviously
we
want
to
keep
everybody
safe
in
tennessee.
Do
everything
that
we
can,
but
these
are
primarily
in
hospitals
and
healthcare
facilities,
spaces
at
a
premium
so
requiring
additional
space
between
these.
You
know,
I
think
it
impedes
it
might
keep
a
hospital
from
having
two
of
these.
G
A
D
Hey,
I
thank
you
for
that.
Cheerleader
hazelwood
and
I
would
remind
you
all
the
tennessee
hospital
association
is
comfortable
with
the
notion
that
the
fda
has
regulated
this.
The
manufacturer,
who
has
a
patent
on
this,
has
been
able
to
get
the
license
to
create
this
piece
of
equipment
that
sterilizes
these
medical
things
that
people
who
are
wanting
the
tennessee
hospital
association
is
comfortable
with
that.
A
Thank
you,
chairman
faison,
appreciate
that
explanation
and
and
the
some
folks
came
by
and
put
on
a
good
demonstration
in
my
office.
We
actually
used
to
box
and
they
kind
of
showed
me
and,
and
I'm
I'm
inclined
to
support
this
bill
too.
It
makes
sense
and
that's
the
great
thing
about
being
a
lawmaker.
Is
we
make
the
laws
so
members?
Do
we
have
any
more
questions
for
chairman
faison?
If
not,
we
are
voting
to
send
house
bill
1904
to
full
commerce,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no
eyes
have
it
chairman.
A
H
H
Job
believe
it
or
not,
was
in
the
in
the
funeral
business.
We
still
have
a
funeral
home.
That
bears
my
family's
name,
and
so
I've
got
a
little
bit
experience
in
this
background
and
what
happens
in
funeral
homes
that
they
can
actually
sell
their
funerals
on
a
pre-need
basis.
There's
two
ways
you
can
do
that
one
way
is
through
a
life
insurance
vehicle.
The
second
way
is
they
provide
the
money
to
the
funeral
home.
They
put
that
money
in
trust
and
the
funeral
homes
can
actually
pull
those
monies
together
and
trust
and
save
on
cost.
H
The
cemeteries
can't
do
that.
So
that's
all
this
bill
does
cemeteries.
Do
the
same
thing.
They
can
accept
payment
for
applaud
or
whatnot
in
the
same
fashion.
They
just
cannot
pool
the
trust
funds
together
and
they
have
a
lot
more
of
expense,
administering
those
trusts.
So
what
this
does
is
does
the
same
thing.
The
funeral
homes
can
do
so
with
that.
Mr
chairman
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
sponsor.
A
I
H
A
J
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
committee.
This
is
a
bill
that
we
have
approved
for
at
least
three
years
that
I've
been
here,
and
this
is
a
a
a
license
that
sought.
Anyone
who
sells
more
than
five
cars
in
the
state
of
tennessee
has
to
have
a
special
license
for
a
one
year
or
one
event,
that's
required
in
chattanooga.
There
is
the
chattanooga
motor
car
festival
it
has
generated
like
this
past
year.
J
It
was
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
charity
for
neurological
and
stroke,
advanced
technology
and
and
research
treatment,
and
the
the
motor
car
festival
for
the
state
of
tennessee
generated
16.9
million
dollars
in
sales
for
the
two
day
event.
So
quite
a
bit
of
sales
tax
revenue,
so
we're
tickled
to
have
be
a
contributing
event,
but
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
sponsor
for
that
explanation.
Members
of
the
committee
do
we
have
any
questions
for
the
sponsor
question
has
been
called
for
without
objection.
We
are
voting
on
house
bill,
2587,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
opposed,
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it
representative
smith.
Your
bill
is
on
its
way
to
full
commerce.
Thank
you,
committee
and
chairman
next
up
is
house
bill.
It's
item
number
seven
house
bill
2315
by
representative
darby.
A
K
A
K
A
B
K
Thank
you,
sir
there's
three
privately
owned
gas
companies
in
the
state
and
there's
400
of
operational.
Let
me
rephrase
that
there's
200
operational
gas
utilities
that
are
using
renewable
natural
gas
in
the
country
with
planned,
258
more
so
yes,
they're
they're.
They
just
got
to
have
the
permission
to
move
discussion
on
the
table.
A
K
Representative
darby,
you
recognize
yes,
sir.
I
think
that
the
the
price
tag
to
this
for
the
farmers
and
what
what
the,
what
that
they
can
gain
from
that
I'm
a
a
small
percentage
owner
in
kansas
of
a
feed
yard
and
they're
looking
at
this
heavily.
So
I
think
it's
got
a
big
price
tag,
a
big
price
tag
for
the
people
that
can
the
people
that
are
producing
the
manure.
I
Thank
you,
chairman
and
representative
darby.
I
think
one
of
the
first
things
you
need
to
be
reminded
of
is:
we
are
the
only
funny
people
in
the
room,
so
please,
whenever
you,
whenever
you
bring
it
just
know,
no
that
you
we
don't
accept
competitors
in
here.
Okay.
The
my
question,
though,
is,
is
a
little
bit
about
the
bill
itself,
because
I
think
it
is
an
extraordinary
opportunity.
I
K
You,
mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
the
rural
areas,
we've
got
so
much.
I
mean
it's
black
gold
where
I'm
from
you
know
the
you've
got
a
nauseous
smell
and
you've
got
a
asset
here
that
could
use
that
to
produce
renewable
energy
and
then
representative,
terry,
even
in
your
urban
areas,
this
they've
got
landfill
where
it's
producing
the
methane
gas
there
that's
causing
disturbances
where
he
lives,
and
they
can
capture
these
gases
here
and
put
them
to
good
use
and
maybe
even
drop
the
bottom
line
for
their
natural
gas
customers.
B
L
L
Every
time
I
brought
home
friends
from
college
and
my
father
had
just
spread
manure
they'd
say
what
is
that
smell
and
my
daddy
would
say:
that's
the
smell
of
money,
and
so
it's
even
more
so
for
the
dairy
farmers
in
our
area,
because
we've
got
atlas
who's
interested
in
doing
this
up
in
area
and
we're
I'm
thrilled
about
those
bills.
Great
great
idea.
A
Thank
you,
representative
darby,
and
some
of
the
natural
gas
folks
came
by
to
see
me
and
kind
of
explained
how
it
worked
and
left
some
brochures
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
other
people
that
have
come
through
my
office
and
seen
that
and
very
interested
in
that.
So
I'm
excited
to
see
this
piece
of
legislation.
Members
do
we
have
any
other
questions
for
the
sponsor.
A
I
Chairman
boyd-
and
this
is
a
bill
that
we're
presenting
to
create
a
tri-state
compact
in
the
shelby
county
and
well
west
tennessee
area,
there's
tipton,
county
and
fayette
county
are
also
included.
What
this
tri-state
compact
will
allow
us
to
do
will
be
to
seek
opportunity
for
funding
for
projects
that
affect
a
multi-state
region.
The
federal
government
recognize
multi-state
compacts,
particularly
in
their
latest
infrastructure
bill,
and
in
that
there
were
38,
separate
pots
of
money
or
opportunity
funds
that
an
a
organization
like
this
could
secure.
I
One
that
comes
to
mind.
Most
of
all
is
a
replacement
bridge
across
the
mississippi
river.
We
saw
what
how
that
incident.
We
had
this
year
with
evidence
of
failure
on
that
structure
that
we
needed
when
we
were
down
to
one
structure,
that's
carrying
all
that
traffic
and
I
believe
I've
seen
statistics.
That
said,
that's
the
single
largest
port
of
entry
for
visitors
to
our
state-
and
I
know,
there's
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
commerce
that
comes
through
there.
So
as
we
look
for
innovative
solutions
on
ways
to
solve
these
problems
infrastructure-wise.