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House Criminal Justice Subcommittee- March 3, 2022- House Hearing Room 1
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Chairman,
whenever
you're
ready
to
address
it,
I
just
I
saw
a
few
members
kind
of
come
in
and-
and
I
was
confident
you'd
probably
address
them.
But
I
will
stop
at
this
juncture
addressing
them
and
say
that
I
merely
support
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for.
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The
job
you
do,
thank
you
very
much.
Any
other
members
have
personal
orders
before
we
begin.
I
will
take
this
point
to
recognize
a
couple,
gentlemen
from
the
west
tennessee
judicial,
violent
crime
and
drug
task
force
that
is
with
us
today.
We
appreciate
your
service
to
our
state
and
our
communities.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
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Very
good
for
the
members
of
the
committee,
this
first
bill
that
we're
going
to
take
up
this
morning.
We
have
a
large
number
of
people
that
would
like
to
testify
on
this,
and
we
are
going
to
to
do
so.
The
format
in
which
we
are
looking
at
when
we
get
to
this
point
in
in
the
bill
is
we're
going
to
have
members
or
we're
going
to
have
we're
going
to
call
up
panels,
as
we've
done
in
the
past,
that
will
come
up.
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They'll
have
an
opportunity
to
give
their
testimony
and
then
once
they
do,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
you
take
notes.
If
you
have
questions
when
you
hear
something
or
you
think
of
something
to
make
notes
and
once
the
complete
the
panel
has
completed
their
comments,
you
will
have
an
opportunity,
then
to
be
recognized
to
ask
questions
also
for
members
that
have
bills
that
are
calendared
for
today.
In
this
committee.
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I
encourage
you
to
to
watch
from
afar.
If
that's
what
you
would
like
to
do
and
see
if,
as
we
get
to
you,
then
you
can
come
back,
but
I
expect
that
we
will
have
a
vast
majority
of
our
time
today
will
be
on
house
bill
1944..
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Yes,
mr
chairman,
so
what
this
does
is
it
addresses
a
exception
in
section
39
about
about
the
possession
of
obscene
or
pornographic
material
that
was
currently
exempted
from
our
k-12
systems.
This
would
remove
that
exemption,
and
it
would.
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It
would
also
apply
to
our
k-12
systems
for
the
possession
of
pornographic
or
obscene
materials
for
the
point
of
distribution
or
to
show
minors
it
also
in
regards
to
that,
there's
been
much
consternation
in
the
public
about
things
that
have
appeared
in
our
libraries
for
to
be
consumed
by
our
children
and
read
by
our
children,
and
what
this
part
does
from
from
section
two
on
down
it
talks
about
creating
a
process
and
the
process
is
there
for
one
specific
reason
to
prevent
any
arbitrary
removal
of
any
book
from
any
school
library.
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I
want
to
say
that
again
to
prevent
any
arbitrary
removal
of
any
book
from
any
school
library.
It's
a
process
that
we
need
to
create.
That
makes
sure
that
if,
if
a
parent
or
a
student
or
a
teacher
has
an
issue
with
a
book
that
shows
up
in
one
of
our
school
libraries
that
we
will
have
a
process,
a
skeletal
process
that
the
locals
will
fill
in
from
the
local
level
on
how
to
take
care
of
a
situation
that
a
book
or
a
text
has
been
challenged.
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People
have
asked
me
why
the
school
board.
Well,
you
look
at
the.
If
you
look
at
the
the
miller
test
community
standards,
what
a
reasonable
person
would
deem,
I
can't
think-
and
we
can't
think
of
anybody
better
who
would
represent
the
community
standards
than
the
school
board
of
that
local,
lea
who
are
elected
by
the
people
to
represent
their
views
and
what
they
believe
are
their
standards
in
those
communities.
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A
Miss
jackson,
you
you'll,
be
you'll,
be
first
here.
You'll
have
four
minutes.
If
you
would
identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
then
you'll
have
four
minutes
for
your
comments.
Members
I'll
remind
you
again
after
these
three
panelists
are
through
with
their
testimony.
You'll
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
or
make
comments.
Miss
jackson.
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Thank
you
for
listening.
My
name
is
victoria
jackson.
I
moved
here
10
years
ago
to
be
with
my
grandchildren.
I
thought
this
was
the
bible
belt.
I
soon
found
out.
There
was
pornography,
obscenity
and
profanity
in
our
school
libraries
and
some
textbooks,
and
I
thought
why
would
that
be
in
the
bible
belt?
So
I
used
my
critical
thinking,
skills,
which
was
mentioned
last
week
and
they
started
when
I
was
six
and
I
learned
the
fear
of
the
lord
is
the
beginning
of
wisdom
and
first
peter
1
said
be
holy
as
I
am
holy.
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J
We
wrestle
not
against
flesh
of
blood
but
against
powers,
principalities,
spiritual
wickedness
in
high
places
and
number
two,
the
communist
party.
Usa,
their
goals
are
are
happening.
They
had
goals
that
were
read
in
1963
by
democrat
albert
hurlong
in
the
congress.
J
Here's
some
of
their
goals
that
are
coming
true,
get
control
of
the
schools
and
teachers,
association,
soften
curriculum,
gain
control
of
student
newspapers,
eliminate
laws
governing
obscenity
by
calling
them
censorship
and
a
violation
of
free
speech,
break
down
cultural
standards
of
morality
by
promoting
pornography
and
obscenity
present
homosexuality
degeneracy
and
promote
security
as
normal
natural,
healthy,
eliminate
prayer
discredit.
The
founding
fathers
belittle
american
culture
discourage
american
history,
teaching
discredit
the
family
as
an
institution,
encourage
promiscuity,
emphasize
the
need
to
raise
children
away
from
the
negative
influence
of
their
parents.
This.
J
These
are
the
communist
party,
usa
goals
and
you
can
google
that.
So
I
thought
well,
that's
why
it's
happening,
and
then
I
thought
critical
thinking
has
porn
or
obscenity
ever
made
a
nation,
a
culture
or
a
soul
better.
No,
it
has
only
made
it
worse
and
criminals,
as
that
mother
testified.
Last
week,
say:
porn
was
their
gateway
into
becoming
a
criminal,
a
deviant,
a
rapist
and
a
murderer.
I'd
like
to
quickly
read
some
of
the
things
an
11
year
old
can
read
at
their
library
the
lovely
bones,
mr
harvey.
I
really
have
to
get
home.
J
Take
off
your
clothes.
What
take
your
clothes
off?
Mr
harvey
said.
I
want
to
check
you
that
you're
still
a
virgin.
I
am
mr
harvey.
I
said
I
want
to
make
sure
your
parents
will.
Thank
me,
my
parents.
They
only
want
good
girls.
He
said
mr
harvey,
I
said
please
let
me
leave.
You
aren't
leaving
susie
you're
mine
now,
as
he
kissed
his
wet
lips
down
my
face
and
neck
then
began
to
shove
his
hands
up
under
my
skirt.
I
wept
I
began
to
leave
my
body.
J
I
began
to
inhabit
the
air
and
the
silence
I
wept
and
struggled
so
I
would
not
feel
he
ripped
open
my
something
not
having
found
the
invisible
zipper.
My
mother
had
sewn
in
big
white
panties.
He
said
my
father
protected
me
from
this.
I
only
saw
g
movies.
We
didn't
have
a
tv,
my
father
protected
my
innocence,
and
this
is
the
issue
that
hurts
me
more
than
any
issue
in
our
culture.
People
are
stealing
the
innocence
of
children.
My
innocence
was
never
stolen.
J
That's
why
I
am
the
way
I
am.
I've
never
had
it
stolen
here's
some
other
books.
Is
she
all
of
them
page
251,
darryl.
Didn't
you
my
sister
man,
you
then
dumb,
that
is
out
like
a
turkey,
blah
blah
blah
there's
over
a
hundred
books.
I
don't
even
talk
like
this
and
there's
a
mother
who
couldn't
be
here
named
marissa
and
she
used
to
be
the
the
real
mom
who
made
muffins
and
she
said
now.
She
spends
all
of
her
time
researching
porn
in
school
libraries.
Thank
you
for
listening.
J
A
Thank
you
next
on
our
list,
miss
elizabeth's
story.
You'll
have
four
minutes,
please,
as
others
announce
yourself
for
the
record.
B
Talking
about
there,
you
go
the
stickers
peeled
off
in
my
defense,
I
can
read
on
and
off
thank
you
chairman,
doggett
and
committee
for
allowing
us
to
speak
here
today,
and
I
hope
that
everyone
will
truly
consider
our
testimony.
I
want
to
start
off
by
saying
that
this
is
not
a
partisan
issue.
This
is
an
issue
of
protecting
our
children
in
public
schools.
Arguing
to
keep
pornography
in
schools
is
an
absolutely
indefensible
position
which
I
will
demonstrate
by
addressing
some
of
the
points
that
we
have
heard
so
far.
B
I'd
like
to
bring
up
critical
thinking
again
because
we
spent
so
much
time
on
it
last
week.
Access
to
pornography
does
not
improve
critical
thinking.
Skills
ingesting
pornography
has
been
scientifically
shown
to
have
catastrophic
effects
on
the
brain,
interpersonal
relationships,
emotional
health
and
familial
structure.
Pornography
addiction
is
a
17
billion
a
year
problem
in
the
us,
not
including
lost
productivity.
B
Pornography
involves
minors
in
a
major
way
and
it's
a
major
draw
for
human
trafficking.
Each
day
in
the
us,
there
are
about
200
000
searches
for
child
porn
involving
minors.
There
is
absolutely
no
tie-in
between
accessing
pornography
and
critical
thinking,
skills
that
would
ever
benefit
our
children.
B
We
heard
that
passing
this
bill
would
jeopardize
other
books
that
is
patently
false.
Hb
1944
applies
only
to
obscene
content,
which
is
very
clearly
spelled
out
in
the
language
of
the
bill.
If
one
reads
it,
if
a
book
does
not
have
obscene
content,
it
is
not
in
danger
period.
The
bill
defines
a
review
process.
Books
would
not
be
arbitrarily
removed
from
a
school
library
on
a
whim.
Furthermore,
clearing
out
obscene
books
will
make
more
room
for
books
that
do
have
quality
content
and
educational
value
for
our
students.
We
heard
about
the
notion
of
government
overage.
B
Well,
that's
pretty
hilarious.
Since
schools
are
government-funded
institutions
that
are
funded
by
fact,
the
taxpayer
there
are
rules
and
guidelines
for
teachers,
staff
and
students,
even
as
a
parent,
I
cannot
volunteer
without
a
background
check
and
finger
fingerprinting.
All
we're
asking
for
is
a
little
background
check
on
the
books
that
you're
giving
to
our
minor
children.
That's
all
we
want.
B
I
heard
some
ridiculous
statements
like
just
homeschool
your
kids,
if
you
don't
like
it
well,
let
me
allow
you
to
read
you
tennessee
tennessee
state
constitution,
article
11,
section
12
that
states
the
state
of
tennessee
recognizes
the
inherent
value
of
education
and
encourages
its
support.
The
general
assembly
shall
provide
for
the
maintenance,
support
and
eligibility
standards
of
a
system
of
free
public
schools.
B
A
librarian
stood
up
and
said
that
a
kid
having
a
single
parent
home
that
uses
drugs
might
interpret
obscenity
different
than
a
kid
in
a
healthy
home
environment.
Not
only
is
that
demeaning,
but
it's
absolutely
absurd.
The
student
in
the
single
parent
home
needs
access
to
quality,
reading
materials
even
more
than
a
student
in
a
healthy
home
environment,
because
they're
already
in
jeopardy.
The
definition
of
obscene
does
not
change
because
a
minor
has
been
desensitized.
B
I
want
to
use
that
word
again.
Desensitized.
Never
in
history
should
a
school-funded
library
play
a
role
in
desensitizing
minors
by
providing
them
porn
at
a
taxpayer's
expense.
Every
member
of
this
committee
has
stated
that
they
are
a
man
of
faith
in
their
bio.
It
is
better
to
fear
the
wrath
of
the
lord
than
to
fear
being
called
names
and
nonsense
that
I
know
you're
going
to
hear
pretty
soon.
I'd
like
to
in
closing
read
two
passages
from
the
bible
luke
17
2.
B
It
would
be
better
for
him
to
have
a
millstone
hung
around
his
neck
and
to
be
thrown
into
the
sea
than
to
cause
one
of
these
little
ones
to
stumble
one
corinthians
1
1,
corinthians,
8
12
by
sinning
against
your
brother
in
this
way
and
wounding
their
weak
conscience.
You
sin
against
christ.
You
need
not
worry
about
name
calling.
You
need
to
protect
our
little
ones,
please
be
a
hero
for
all
the
kids
of
tennessee,
perform
your
maintenance
function
and
vote
yes
on
hb
1944.
G
Thank
you,
chairman
doggett.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee.
It
is
impossible
to
share
what
needs
to
be
shared
with
you
in
four
minutes,
but
I'm
grateful
for
it.
So,
let's
roll
I'm
not
going
to
belittle
you,
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
an
education
lesson,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
who
you
are
or
what
you
are,
I'm
going
to
give
you
the
facts.
Being
a
former
tennessee
school
board
member,
like
you
there's
days
that
we
have
things
brought
before
us,
that's
really
tough
to
tackle
unbelievable
that
we're
having
to
tackle
this.
G
When
I
started
being
called
by
parents
of
what
was
going
on,
I
took
a
deeper
dive.
This
is
not
about
librarians,
letting
it
happen
or
schools
letting
it
happen
because
a
lot
of
you
guys
were
not
even
aware.
It
was
happening
when
I
went
to
my
own
county
commission
and
asked
them
while
they
were
funding
porn,
he
said
we're
not
funding
porn.
Yes,
you
are
here's
the
books
in
our
county
library.
What's
sad
about
this,
is
everyone
in
our
school
system
currently
has
a
get
out
of
jail,
free
card?
Why?
G
Because
some
of
these
most
hideous
books
are
on
our
approved
tennessee
school
department,
of
ed
approval
rating
me
or
on
the
dying
girl.
We
had
a
representative
last
week
and
said
he
didn't
need
to
read
it.
Here's
the
proof
that
it's
on
our
approved
reading
list,
but
just
let
me
give
you
a
taste
of
what
you
might
want
to
read.
Yeah
earl,
I'm
going
to
eat
her
hey
yeah.
Do
you
even
know
how
to
eat
really
papa
gaines,
never
set
you
down.
G
G
It
doesn't
matter
who
censors
the
books,
it
doesn't
matter
who
looks
at
it.
It's
already
illegal
the
next
book
genderqueer
it's
on
our
approved
reading
list.
Do
you
want
to
see
your
child
going
to
school
learning
how
to
give
a
blow
job
learning
how
to
do
oral
sex?
It's
there
it's
there.
Do
you
want
to
teach
your
teenager
how
to
give
himself
masturbation
relations
driving
down
the
road
there
is,
should
be
no
debate
here.
There
should
be
no
name
calling
here.
G
A
Thank
you
we're
now
going
to
take
questions
and
comments
from
the
committee
representative
hardaway.
You
were
first
on
the
list.
K
K
Now
I
don't
need
instructions
from
anyone
in
this
room
about
how
to
go
about
my
faith.
Let's
get
that
straight
number
one
and
number
two
we
had
discussions
about
critical
thinking
and
how
important
it
is
for
those
who
are
attending
any
public,
school
or
private
school
to
be
able
to
go
out
into
the
world.
K
For
a
lifetime
using
the
skills
that
they
have
garnered
from
k-12
or
post-secondary
education,
critical
thinking
is
part
of
that.
My
dad
was
an
educator.
He
was
both
an
administrator
and
a
classroom
instructor.
My
mom
was
an
educator
classroom,
instructor
believe
it
or
not.
I
did
substitute
teaching,
and
I
am
one
of
the
visionaries
and
founders
of
the
first
charter
school-
to
open
its
doors
in
the
state
of
tennessee.
K
K
K
Back
to
the
debate,
the
reason
and
ma'am
I
apologize,
I
don't
know
your
name,
but
yes,
ma'am
elizabeth.
You
spoke
to
the
critical
thinking
debate
and
it's
not
real
complicated.
It's
it's
more
or
less
what
I've
just
described.
Wouldn't
you
agree.
K
All
right
now,
the
problem
I
have
with
that
and
when
I
ran
for
office.
The
very
first
thing
that
I
put
out
on
my
literature
and
on
my
facebook
page
and
all
the
rest
of
my
social
media
was
who
I
am
and
what
kind
of
leadership
I
would
provide
principal
based,
spiritually,
guided
people-oriented
leadership
with
measurable
results.
K
A
Representative
hardaway,
let
me
stop
you.
I
hate
to
break
your
thought
there
for
a
second,
but
we
need
to
before
anybody
speaks.
We
need
to
come
through
the
chair
just
so
that
we
don't
have
wild
dialogue
going
back
and
forth
okay.
So
I
apologize
for
not
stating
that
earlier,
but
that's
that's
how
we
need
to
operate
all
right.
Representative
hardaway
continue.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
intend
to
have
a
civil
debate
on
this.
Yes,
sir,
no
matter
how
difficult
it
may
be,
I
know
there's
some
emotions
involved,
but
for
me
it's
not
personal,
it's
not
personal,
but
when
I
speak
to
the
need
for
interpretation
of
the
bible,
unless
there's
somebody
in
here
who
helped
to
write
those
books,
then
that's
all
you're
doing
is
interpreting
the
bible.
K
We
have
leadership,
we
call
them
bishops,
we
call
them
priests,
we
call
them
rabbis
who
help
us
to
interpret
the
bible,
so
anyone
that
thinks
that
they
can
read
the
bible.
They
get
a
literal,
meaning
that
matches
the
rest
of
the
world.
Your
delusional.
In
my
estimation,
we
all
interpret
the
bible
now.
That
brings
me
back
to
the
point
of
why
we
need
to
have
material
and
I'm
not
an
advocate
for
pornography.
K
Okay,
when
I
told
the
gentleman
last
week,
I
didn't
need
his
instruction
on
what
books
to
read.
K
K
That's!
Mr
chairman!
I
don't
want
to
belabor
these
points,
so
I'm
going
to
relinquish
my
time,
but
thank
you,
ladies
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
representing
your
positions,
because
that's
what
it's
all
about
government
and
other
people
for
the
people
by
the
people.
A
J
K
A
B
B
After
the
meeting
last
week,
several
of
the
people
that
showed
up
to
support
your
bill,
a
large
group
of
people
that
showed
up
to
support.
You
came
up
to
our
group
and
asked
to
see
the
material
in
question
and
one
of
the
women
said,
and
I
quote
I'm
from
a
rough
neighborhood.
I
grew
up
in
a
rough
neighborhood
and
let
me
tell
you
not
much
shocks
me,
but
this
shocks
me.
That
was
your
constituent
and
your
supporter
who
showed
up
to
support
you.
So
I
think
the
issue
at
hand.
B
I
think
most
parents
who
have
not
seen
this
material
cannot
really
grasp
the
depth
of
it
until
they
see
it
and
you
you
know
what
I
mean
and,
and
you
said
that
this
isn't
a
personal
issue
for
you.
Well,
I
must
admit
this
is
a
personal
issue
for
me,
because
I
have
kids
in
elementary
and
middle
school
who
have
already
been
affected
by
this
and
as
a
parent.
B
B
We
just
don't
want
books
that
poison
their
mind,
because
I'm
not
there
to
protect
them
in
their
school
library
and
just
in
closing,
I
will
tell
you
that,
in
order
to
prepare
to
come
here
today,
I
had
to
read
stories
of
little
girls
as
young
as
10
and
11
getting
gang
wrecked
or
raped
by
their
stepfathers
in
their
own
bedrooms,
and
I
can't
find
a
way
to
think
that
that
has
some
educational
value
from
my
little
girl,
my
little
son
or
anyone
that
goes
to
school
with
them.
Thank
you.
K
And
I
appreciate
the
way
you
approach
this
first,
I
represent
a
diverse
group
of
citizens
in
district
93
and
that's
what
makes
me
a
better,
not
the
best,
but
a
better
legislator
than
I
would
otherwise
be
their
opinions
vary
on
this
topic
and
others
the
same
way
that
some
were
here
to
support
that
bill.
There
were
others
who
called
me:
they
don't
support
all
my
legislation.
K
So
when
we're
talking
about
what
I
support
and
what
I
don't
support,
I
refer
you
back
to
what
I
said
about
my
guidance
in
my
initial
statement
to
you.
The
the
definition
of
pornography,
as
you
know,
is
about
written
or
visual
or
video
material.
That's
designed
to
excite
or
or
raise
erotic
feelings.
That's
it!
K
K
I
expect
that
government
would
give
guidance
to
those
entities
which
fall
under
the
they
got,
the
the
chartering
of
the
state
and
the
regulation
of
the
state.
So
I
agree
with
you
there:
okay,
it's
just
a
matter
for
us,
agreeing
on
what
that
proper
guidance
should
be.
At
this
point,
the
language
that
I
walked
in
on.
I
was
appalled.
K
I've
never
said
those
words.
You
won't
hear
me
sam
today
publicly.
I
don't
think
that's
my
role
as
a
legislator.
Okay,
I
will
speak
to
f
bombs
or
f
words
or
something
of
that
nature.
But
if
we're
going
to
be
and
the
the
the
lady
has
every
right
to
express
herself,
however,
the
committee
and
the
chairman
see
fit
so
we
have
a
difference
and
what
you
just
said
about
how
the
community
my
community
perceives
my
position
and
it's
just
a
micro
of
the
state
as
a
whole.
K
K
My
job
is
not
to
voice
my
opinion,
but
to
use
my
position
to
seek
the
best
possible
outcome
for
my
constituents
to
do
so.
I
gather
facts.
I
probably
have
different
facts
than
you
have
you
have
some
facts
that
come
from
your
experiences
and
your
research,
the
same
as
I
do.
K
My
facts
and
experience
lead
me
to
a
different
conclusion
that
there's
a
better
way
for
the
state
to
give
guidance
as
opposed
to
the
legislation
before
us.
That's
it
so
for
those
who
have
been
misled
about
whether
I
advocate
or
endorse
pornography,
that's
a
lie.
I
don't
know
how
much
clearer
I
can
make
it.
K
I
don't,
and
I
have
three
wonderful
children
who
have
all
turned
out
well
and
they'll,
give
you
testimony
to
the
same.
So
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
once
again
thank
you.
Ladies.
J
J
E
G
Thank
you
for
that
question
very
good
question.
So
after
two
parents
had
called
and
told
me
that
they
were
just
could
not
fathom
that
they
were
having
to
teach
their
fourth
grader.
Now
what
orgasm
was
and
the
pictures
that
they
had
seen.
I
started
to
deep
dive
into
the
schools
so
being
a
school
board
member
I
reached
out
to
other
school
board
members
first
to
ask
them.
Were
they
aware
these
books
were
in
their
schools?
G
I
didn't
find
a
single
guest
and
when
I
told
them
that
I
had
found
them
in
their
schools,
they
said
no
way
know
how
I'll
go
to
our
director
of
schools
go
to
the
director
of
schools,
who
a
lot
of
them
really
quickly
went
into
detective
mode.
If
those
books
are
in
our
schools
get
them
out,
and
if
jennifer
hamlin
calls
you
asking
about
them,
we
don't
have
them.
G
Why
would
you
be
so
afraid
to
admit
that
you
found
them
in
our
schools?
We
found
out
that
some
schools
had
them
because
scholastic
books,
which
is
another
scenario
but
scholastic
books,
gives
our
schools
free
gifts
after
their
book
fairs,
when
they've
sold
x
amount
of
points.
Well
guess
what
books
they're
giving
them
they're
giving
them
these
books
is
one
of
them.
So
so
I
started
going
to
principals
and
started
going
to
school
board
members,
and
I
got
the
defense.
G
I
got
the
school
board
members
who
were
appalled,
but
the
principals
and
teachers
said
you
can't
touch
us
because
they're
on
the
reading
list
in
tennessee,
so
they
can't
touch
them.
So
then
a
principal
said:
why
don't
you
go
to
your
state
library,
guidance
and
gale
system
at
trey
hargett's
office
and
see
what
you
find
that's
more
horrifying
than
this
guess?
What?
Because
it's
not
only.
F
G
Schools,
it's
in
our
local
libraries
and
our
county
commissioners
are
funding
it
and
when
you
ask
them
so
I
started
calling
county
commissioners.
Do
you
know
you're
funding
porn,
we're
not
funding
porn?
Yes,
you
are
here.
It
is
so
when
I
had
to
go
and
read
the
filthy
disgusting
language,
I
had
to
say
to
you
today:
the
mouse
are
still
on
the
floor.
They
go
the
librarians.
What
do
the
librarians
do?
Get
defensive
you're,
not
censoring
me
you're
not
going
to
take
my
books
away.
Well,
you're,
not
censoring
you're,
not
doing
anything.
G
G
We
need
to
have
the
verbiage
that
says
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
anyone
going
through
it.
It's
illegal
so
in
the
school
system,
they're
sitting
back
breathing
relaxing
because
they
can't
be
touched
because
it's
on
the
tennessee
department
of
ed
and
it's
on
trey
hargett,
secretary
of
state's
gail
system.
So
I
took
a
survey
of
high
school
students.
G
G
So
don't
just
have
my
opinion,
so
I
started
calling
the
sheriff's
department.
I
talked
to
my
own
sheriff
and
he
said
he
didn't
know
whether
to
hug
me
or
go
start
putting
people
in
handcuffs
talked
to
the
direct
some
friends
on
tbi.
I
called
the
federal
level.
I
said,
give
me
the
definition
of
porn
as
promotion
consistently.
I
talked
yesterday
with
the
former
director
of
tbi
mark
gwen,
who
was
in
total
shock
that
this
is
allowed
in
our
schools.
He
goes
absolutely
it's
pornographic.
G
If
you
went
outside
and
texted
to
somebody,
I
could
arrest
you
on
the
spot.
Well,
we
can't
arrest
the
teachers.
We
can't
arrest
the
principals.
We
can't
arrest
the
director
of
schools
and,
like
representative
hardaway,
say
it's
up
to
the
parents.
Well,
I
send
my
child
to
school.
I
can't
take
care
of
the
propaganda
they're
given
at
school
because
I'm
not
there
to
protect
them,
so
we
send
them
there
as
a
place
of
safety
to
be
tall,
but
not
to
be
groomed.
E
So
it's
obvious
that
we
have
a
discrepancy
of
what's
legal
and
what's
legal
and
where
it's
legal
and
where
it's
not
legal,
I
know
I
didn't
know
this
was
in
schools
and
obviously
a
number
of
other
people
didn't.
So
you
say
that
it's
on
the
and
I
forgot
what
terms.
G
It's
the
gale
system,
the
g-a-l-e,
our
library
system,
that
is
run
through
secretary
of
state
trey,
hargitt's
office
that
handles
our
schools
and
our
public
libraries.
You
do
a
deep
enough
dive
into
that
system
and
do
searches
our
kids
don't
have
to
go
by
the
field
they
get
on
their
own
website
and
guess
what
they're
protected
because
they're
getting
it
through
their
school
laptops.
E
E
G
Well
guess
what
happened
when
it
was
my
turn
to
leave
moment
of
silence
at
my
school
board
meeting
I
stood
up
and
started
praying
buddy
and
my
attorney
was
trying
to
sit
me
down
afraid
I
was
going
to
be.
We
were
going
to
be
sued.
No
god
and
jesus
are
my
bodyguards,
and
this
will
always
be
the
only
book
that
we
should
be
answering
to.
E
E
It
should
be
left
up
to
the
parents
what
they
deem
moral
or
immoral
to
their
children,
and
we
live
in
america,
and
we
should
have
the
freedom
to
do
that.
But
to
have
this
in
in
what
seems
to
be
snuck
in
to
our
libraries
and
brought
in
such
a
way
that.
E
Positions
that
I
would
hold
to
be
needful
are
not
being
catered
to.
When
I
was
in
the
fourth
and
fifth
grade,
I
had
the
option,
as
every
student
did,
to
be
able
to
memorize
bible
verses
and
for
every
number
of
bible
verses
that
you
could
remember,
you
would
get
a
prize
and
up
to
a
hundred,
and
you
would
get
to
go
to
bible
camp
free
of
charge
that
year
and
it
was
strictly
voluntary,
but
it
was
allowed
and
so
just
to
re.
You
know
to
memorize
a
bible.
E
Verse
is
not
allowed
today,
but
to
deem
material
that,
in
my
opinion-
and
I
think
in
most
reasonable
people's
minds,
it's
it's
unreasonable
for
a
child
to
be
reading
material.
Like
that.
That's
that's!
For
adults,
that's
not
for
children!
So
somehow
the
process
by
which
that
these
books
have
gotten
into
our
system
is
wrong
and
it
there
needs
to
be
more
oversight,
which
I
think
that
this
legislation
that
we're
talking
about
brings
oversight
to
that
so
I'm
through.
But
you
could
may.
G
Respond
please,
unfortunately,
we
found
books
of
this
nature
in
93
of
our
95
counties
from
elementary
to
middle
to
high
school.
So
I
had
a
lady
in
lawrenceburg
found
out
about
me
and
contacted
me
and
made
me
aware
of
this
book
that
her
daughter
brought
home
from
third
grade.
It's
perfectly
normal.
Now,
what's
interesting
about
this
book,
look
what's
on
the
bottom,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
parental
advisory,
explicit
content.
G
I
had
to
blur
out
the
pictures
so
they're
going
to
teach
her
daughter
how
to
masturbate
and
what
she
should
do
and
how
it
should
make
her
feel.
What
to
do.
Is
she
decides
she'd
like
to
do
it
with
a
girl,
or
would
she
like
to
do
it
with
a
boy
what
they
would
like
to
do
and
then
making
love
homosexuality
style?
G
I
don't.
This
is
not
a
religious
affiliation
issue.
It's
not
a
political
issue,
it's
not
a
racial
issue.
It's
not!
I
don't
care
what
you
do
behind
closed
doors
issue,
it's
a
common
sense
issue
and
it
breaks
the
law
and
the
only
law
we
should
be
concerned
about.
First
is
not
what
our
voters
think
not
what
anyone
else
thinks
not
what
people
have
different
opinions
think
our
nation
was
founded
under
god
for
a
reason,
and
it's
not
to
send
our
children
off
to
school
to
be
groomed
to
decide
in
third
grade.
G
G
It
had
been
given
to
them
by
scholastic
books
in
a
book
fair,
so
our
librarians
are
just
maybe
not
vetting
what
they
can
do.
Maybe
it's
not
their
fault.
Maybe
it
is.
If
I
was
going
to
put
something
out
for
someone
to
see,
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
not
going
to
be
laying
on
my
coffee
table
when
you
come
into
my
house
for
a
book
to
read.
You
know
I'm
still
sitting
here
shaking
that
I
had
to
say
such
filth
to
you,
but
I
felt
so
strongly
about
it.
G
We
had
to
make
a
point:
there
are
school
board
members
still
who
are
calling
me
just
in
shock
that
this
is
even
existing.
So
I
get
a
lot
of
questions.
What's
the
governor
think
about
this?
What's
the
governor
office
think
about
this,
he
was
made
aware
of
it
last
august
and
we're
here
talking
about
it.
Why
wasn't
it
taken
out
of
our
schools
immediately.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
ladies
for
for
your
comments
briefly,.
D
Yes,
mr
and
I
promise
I
will
keep
it
brief,
but
on
that
question
the
governor
has
a
bill
specifically
on
this
issue
that
will
make
a
transparent
process.
It
doesn't
go
with
the
direction.
This
does
both
bills
work
very
well
together,
but
since
you
asked
yes
absolutely,
I
know
how
the
governor
feels
about
this
and
he
has
sponsored
or
asked
us
to
sponsor
a
bill
for
consideration
for
this,
for
the
legislature
to
ensure
that
all
of
this
is
transparent,
because
just
what
you
mentioned
so
many
folks
don't
know
what
books
are
there.
D
You
can't
have
the
conversation.
If
you
don't
know
books
are
there
pro
or
against
whatever,
but
transparency
is
always
a
good
thing.
So,
knowing
what
books
are
there
and
having
that
conversation,
local
communities
is
important,
just
wanted
to
mention,
since
you
brought
it
up,
ma'am,
yes
ma'am.
I
do
know
as
a
matter
of
fact
personally,
that
this
is
important
issue
to
him
as
it
is
to
all
of
us.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
your
comments.
We
have
others
here
to
testify.
I'm
going
to
call
up
a
mr
dale
walker,
mr
tim
brown,
miss
landon
starbucks.
A
A
All
right,
we'll
start
with
you,
mr
walker
you'll,
have
four
minutes.
Identify
yourself
for
the
record
and
you'll
have
four
minutes
to
make
your
comments.
D
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you
committee.
My
name
is
pastor:
dale
walker.
I'm
president
of
the
tennessee
pastors
network.
I've
been
coming
down
to
the
hill
for
about
nine
years.
Speaking
about
religious
liberty
issues.
Nine
years
ago
I
brought
a
group
of
pastors
down
here.
We
met
with
then
speaker
ramsey
about
a
book
that
was
in
the
schools
called
the
bluest
eye.
D
It
was
just
as
wicked
and
vile
as
what
we
have
heard
today
and
and
it's
disgusting
to
me,
and
I
will
speak
to
you
respectfully
as
a
pastor,
but
I
am
mad
enough
about
this
to
spit
nails.
Okay,
we
should
have
dealt
with
this
issue
a
long
time
ago
in
this
state,
and
I
respectfully
speak
to
you
state
representatives
today.
D
I
know
many
of
you
all
weren't
here
then,
but
we've
had
a
long
time
problem
with
this
in
this
state,
and
I
appreciate
representative
what
you
said
last
week
about
churches
being
involved
in
these
issues
and
if
I
may
recognize
with
them,
not
speaking
chairman
I'd
like
to
ask
a
few
pastors
to
stand
up
that
are
here
today
they
came
with
you
pastors
to
stand
up.
They
came
away
from
their
churches.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
They
came
away
from
their
churches
on
a
on
a
wednesday.
Today
is
prayer
meeting
night
in
our
churches.
D
They
cared
enough
about
this
issue
to
come
to
nashville
tennessee,
to
speak
up
for
the
children
in
their
churches,
and
we
just
saw
a
display
of
the
most
vile,
wicked
lascivious
material
right
here
in
our
state
house
that
our
kids
in
our
schools
that
are
having
to
see
sexually
explicit
sexually
charged
material.
I
was
made
aware
of
last
year
that
this
book
was
in
stone
elementary
school
in
cumberland
county
by
a
mom
that
couldn't
be
here
today,
she's
a
hard-working
mom.
D
She
sends
her
kids
to
public
school
thinking
that
they
are
going
to
be
educated
on
how
to
make
a
living
in
life,
not
sexually
indoctrinated
with
wicked
vile
books
she's
in
the
process
of
pulling
her
younger
children
out
of
the
schools
up
there,
we
began
to
work
in
cumberland
county.
We
got
that
book
out
of
those
schools
with
pastors
reaching
out
and
contacting
the
schools
they
spoke
it
out.
D
I've
also
spoke
to
two
tennessee
department
of
corrections
officers
and
give
them
this
information
on
this
book
and
mind
you
folks
this
morning
in
this
room,
this
very
material
that
is
being
given
to
our
kids
in
school.
Libraries
in
the
state
of
tennessee
is
considered
contraband
in
our
state
prisons.
I've
talked
to
two
of
those
individuals.
D
This
wicked
book
me
and
earl
and
the
dying
girl
would
not
have
passed
the
vetting
process
of
the
chaplain
in
the
state
prisons.
It
would
not
be
allowed
to
be
sent
into
a
individual
that
was
in
prisons.
That
speaks
volumes,
that
the
very
kids
in
our
elementary
schools
are
being
subjected
to
this,
because
a
corporation
wants
to
put
this
book
into
an
elementary
school,
I
spoke
to
sheriff
clint
schrum
this
morning
out
of
grundy
county.
I
asked
him
about
this
on
the
way
down.
I
said
if
I
texted
this
information
to
a
minor.
D
What
would
happen
to
me?
He
said
you
would
be
arrested
for
sexual
exploitation
of
a
minor,
so
if
a
minor
in
school
text
over
this
information
that
was
read
in
this
wicked
vial
lascivious
books
this
morning,
if
they
text
it
over
to
another
minor,
they
could
be
charged
with
sexting,
so
we're
providing
the
platform
in
our
public
schools
that
can
make
criminals
out
of
our
young
people.
D
I
was
preaching
sunday
night
in
the
church
about
these
very
issues
in
spencer,
tennessee
and
a
nine-year-old
girl
came
up
to
my
wife
and
I
they
just
had
the
scholastic
book
fair
at
their
school.
She
bought
a
book
called,
don't
judge
me.
She
comes
from
a
christian
family
that
believes
in
traditional
marriage,
may
I
say,
like
our
tennessee
constitution
still
stands
for,
and
she
believes
in
traditional
marriage
between
a
man
and
a
woman,
and
in
that
book
it
talked
about
two
moms
and
I
contacted
the
school.
D
I
asked
him
if
that
book
was
in
the
library
it
wasn't,
but
yet
it
was
sold
to
that
nine-year-old
girl
and
a
fourth
grade
that
had
to
go
to
her
parents
and
her
grandparents
and
discuss
that
she
was
obviously
troubled
about
that
in
that
in
that
setting
to
speak
up
to
us
at
that
church
and
brother
jerry,
there
representative,
jerry
brought
up
about
viewpoint
discrimination.
I
wonder
what
would
happen
if
we
churches
in
the
state
put
together
a
list
of
50
good
biblical
worldview
books
and
we
introduced
it
to
the
library.
D
Would
we
be
accepted?
I
think
maybe
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
So
that's
my
testimony
as
president
of
the
tennessee
pastors
network.
It's
time
we
deal
with
this
issue.
If
we
don't
deal
with
it
this
year,
we'll
be
back
next
year.
I
think
all
these
conservatives
here
will
be
back
next
year,
we'll
work
on
this
and
our
locales
with
our
school
boards.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
chairman,
I'm
so
thankful
to
be
here.
I'm
thankful
to
god
that
he
allowed
me
to
be
able
to
come
here
and
stand
thankful
to
have
my
freedom.
My
right
to
free
speech.
I
want
to
say
first
of
all
that
I'm
appalled
at
the
language
that
I've
heard
this
morning.
It
brought
tears
to
my
eyes
and
I
remembered
how
my
mother
would
have
washed
my
mouth.
That
was
soap
to
have
heard
something
from
my
mouth
act
like
that,
and
I
want
to
think
about
how
that
I
have
stood
from
some
38
years.
L
30
preaching
the
gospel
of
jesus
christ.
I've
gone
10
years
out
on
the
streets
to
gay
pride
festivals
from
one
end
of
tennessee
to
the
other.
I
have
seen
the
progression
of
many
many
young
people
that
are
using
the
same
language
that
I
heard
this
morning.
So
it's
beginning
to
be,
and
it
has
started
to
be
very
prevalent
in
our
school
system
and
it's
your
job
as
as
your
representatives
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
read
some
bible
verses
here
in
chapter
13
of
book
romans.
It
tells
us
how
the
governments
are
supposed
to
be.
L
It
says
in
chapter
13:
it
says
let
every
soul
be
subject
to
the
higher
powers.
It
says,
for
there
is
no
power,
but
of
god,
and
it
says,
and
that
are
and
that
our
powers
that
are
be
are
ordained
of
god
and
whosoever.
Therefore,
resisteth
the
power
resisteth,
the
ordinance
of
god,
and
they
that
resist
the
resist
shall
receive
to
themselves.
Damnation
for
rulers
are
not
a
terror,
two
good
works,
and
I
want
to
bring
that
thought
out
this
morning.
L
It's
your
job
to
do
what's
good,
you
should
be
against
what's
evil
and
what
is
a
terror,
and
what
is
a
terror
is
having
children
that
are
given
this.
This
information,
these
porno
things
and
I
saw
a
percentage,
a
great
percentage
of
students,
young
people
that
are
exposed
to
this
type
of
information
that
becomes
sexually
aggressive.
It
was
about
eight
to
ten
percent
that
they
took
surveys
where
these
children
became
more
sexually
aggressive.
What
happens
to
these
sexually
aggressive
children?
L
They
grow
up,
they
get
older
and
and
then
we
see
the
sparks
of
some
that
are,
heaven
forbid
many
and
some
have
been
raped
and
different
things
have
happened
or
molested
in
many
other
ways,
children
with
other
children
that
have
been
raped
and-
and
I
want
to
mention
this-
that
parent
that
teachers
many
times
who
may
have
used
these
same
books
to
groom
students
that
have
maybe
molested
you,
students
and
we've
seen
some
that
have
been
called
out
on
the
news
that
have
been
brought
into
many
of
these
things.
But
we
want.
L
I
have
heard
and
seen
many
of
these
things
happen
in
our
school
system
with
our
children,
and
I
want
to
testify
that
I
have
two
boys
that
I've
held
out
of
school
for
a
class
called
teen
living
at
different
times
that
they
have
brought
many
of
these
things
into
the
school
system
and
it
seemed
like
the
teacher
was
so
despondent
that
wouldn't
give
an
exact
time
or
date
that
would
complicate
the
issue
of
me,
taking
my
child
out
of
school
to
to
to
not
allow
them
to
have
be
exposed
to
this
type
of
teaching.
L
That
I
forbid,
I
do
not
approve
of
these
things,
and
I
would
hope
that
everyone
else
would
be
too,
and
I
want
to
speak
to
the
fact
that
there
are.
There
are
poor
people,
poor
children,
that
say
well,
you
know
we
might
want
to
be
exposed
to
these
things.
There's
other
avenues:
young
children,
that
that,
as
as
representative
spoke
last
week,
he
talked
about
well
what
about
the
young?
What
about
the
poor
people
can't?
L
We
are
the
the
the
the
body
here
is
to
protect
people
and
let
them
grow
up
and
and
be
be
as
as
pure
as
they
can
possibly
be,
and
as
they
grow
up,
they
can
unfortunately
go
their
direction,
but
thank
you
for
your
time.
God
bless
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
My
name
is
laurie
cardoza
moore,
I'm
the
president
of
proclaiming
justice
to
the
nations,
but
I
am
also
here
in
my
capacity
as
a
member
of
the
tennessee
textbook
and
instructional
materials
quality.
Commission,
it
is
the
it
was
the
responsibility.
It
is
the
responsibility
of
the
textbook
commission
to
review
textbooks
and
instructional
materials.
M
When
the
speaker
brought
this
book
to
my
attention
that
was
being
used
in
the
library,
I
obviously
was
shocked
and
horrified,
we
are
seeing
a
growing
number
of
textbooks
and
instructional
materials
that
have
questionable
questionable
content.
I
also,
as
as
a
matter
is
confirmed
in
the
bible.
There
has
to
be
a
cloud
of
two
to
three
witnesses
and
I
just
want
to
state
that
we,
as
a
member
of
the
world
council
of
independent
christian
churches
and
a
deacon
in
the
church
and
receiving
an
honorary
doctorate
in
theo.
M
M
This
legislature
unanimously
adopted
legislation
requiring
textbooks
to
be
historically
accurate,
unbiased
and
to
reflect
the
values
of
this
community.
This
book
does
not
fit
that
requirement.
This
bill
was
passed
by
senator
bell
and
judd
matheny
back
in
2015,
but
for
some
reason
we
we
look
past
all
of
this
content.
But
again
nobody
is
reviewing
the
library
books.
Nobody
is
reviewing
the
supplemental
materials.
M
The
only
thing
that
we
as
a
commission
get
to
review
are
the
textbooks
and
the
instructional
materials,
supplemental
and
library
books
don't
fit
in
that
category.
That
has
to
change.
Somebody
has
to
be
looking
at
them.
I
spoke
to
a
director
of
schools
who
told
me
that
the
librarians
don't
have
time
they
scholastic
comes
dumps
off
a
stack
of
books
and
because
the
librarian,
who
has
their
master's
degree
in
education,
looks
at
the
scholastic
label
and
says:
oh,
this
is
a
great
book.
It's
scholastic.
Well,
scholastic
is
not
the
book
this,
the
publishing
company.
M
We
grew
up
with
it's
changed
dramatically
and
you
rely
on
our
commission
to
give
you
the
material.
So
I
want
to
encourage
you:
we
need
to
look
at
expanding
our
our
responsibilities
as
a
commission
to
review
even
libraries,
library,
books
and
supplemental
materials,
because
this
is
where
this
propaganda
is
coming
into
our
children.
M
M
This
book
targets
high
school
students,
grades
10
through
12.,
undoubtedly
the
most
emotionally
and
psychologically
vulnerable,
vulnerable
age
group,
jesse,
andrews
delves
into
the
deepest
corners
of
teenage
insecurity,
sexuality,
jealousy
competition,
anger
and
the
fear
of
death.
His
presentation
of
these
moments
reflect
a
basic
understanding
of
adolescent
psychology
and
behavior.
This
being
said,
I
need
to
ask
how
such
a
book
filled
with
a
sexual
sexuality
bordering
on
pornographic
salaciousness
could
be
found
in
the
library
of
an
elementary
school.
M
My
team
spent
many
hours
reading
reviews
of
this
book
online
all
focused
on
the
above,
mentioned
adolescent
topics.
This
leads
to
the
following
analysis,
which
I
have
provided
for
you
of
this
book.
As
a
media
veteran
and
award-winning
documentarian,
I
am
trained
in
the
analysis
of
literature,
its
themes,
language
terminology
and
imagery
ma'am.
M
N
Now
her
peers
in
public
school
have
been
exposed
to
this
material.
It's
had
developmental
harm,
emotional
harm
done
to
them,
and
the
reality
is
about
these
books
is
that
if
anybody
in
this
room
transmitted
those
materials
to
a
child,
you
would
be
arrested,
you
would
be
charged,
you
would
be
a
sex
offender,
but
we're
allowing
libraries
to
distribute
it
to
children.
That's
inexcusable,
no
matter
how
you
cut
it.
N
The
other
reality
we
need
to
face
is
the
fact
that,
if
you
look
it
up,
the
average
age
that
a
child
is
exposed
to
porn
today
is
11
years
old.
Tennessee
can
do
better
than
that.
Tennessee
needs
to
do
better
than
that.
Our
kids
don't
need
to
be
exposed
to
content
like
this.
Our
kids
need
an
actual
education
that
can
compete
with
communist
china
and
what
they're
doing
with
their?
N
I
guarantee
you
they're
not
pushing
this
garbage
on
their
kids
they're
focused
on
the
core
subject
matter
that
is
going
to
make
them
competitive
on
a
global
scale.
We
are
not
anymore
and
that's
why
I'm
here
today
is
to
deliver
somewhat
of
a
warning.
My
family
came
from
cuba,
where
the
same
sort
of
thing
started
to
creep
in
in
different
social
aspects.
They
creeped
in
all
this
different
marxist
curriculum
and
then
eventually,
when
they
took
entirely
over,
they
separated
the
parental
rights
from
the
child.
N
They
separated
the
children
entirely
and
forced
them
into
indoctrination
centers.
That
is
what
is
coming
down
the
line.
It
may
be
hard
to
see
now,
but
people
who
have
had
their
families
come
from
any
communist
country
will
warn
you.
This
is
how
it
starts.
If
you
allow
this
now,
it's
going
to
become
much
worse
later
and
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
effects
this
is
going
to
have
for
generations
societally
and
religiously
all
around
us,
the
culture
that
binds
us
together.
N
N
So
I
beg
you
make
sure
that
we
do
something
about
this
and
we
pass
this
bill
and
we
protect
our
children
here
in
tennessee,
and
then
I
also
you
know
rep
hardaway.
I
do
have
to
ask
you,
or
rather
tell
you
when
a
mom
says
that
they
want
porn
taken
out
of
schools,
and
your
response
is-
and
I
quote
well
the
problem
with
that
is
you're
on
the
wrong
side
of
history.
N
There
should
be
only
one
obvious
response
to
that,
and
it
should
be
as
a
representative
our
duty,
the
duty
of
any
representative,
is
to
not
just
represent
the
people,
but
first
of
all
protect
them
most
of
all
the
most
vulnerable,
our
children
chiefly-
and
I
think
in
that
statement,
if
it
starts
with
that,
maybe
that's
an
error
in
judgment
in
the
way
you
started
your
answer.
It
was
something
that
deeply
disturbed
me,
because
I
believe
that
all
of
our
representatives
are
better
than
that.
N
I
believe
that
the
concerns
of
these
brave
women
who
came
up
here
should
be
something
every
representative
shouldn't
be
partisan,
should
take
to
heart
and
should
say
you
know
what
this
is
not
something:
I'm,
okay
with
no
matter
what
side
of
the
aisle
you're
on,
because
I'm
sure
that
you
would
have
a
problem.
If
somebody
sent
these
images
or
this
material
to
your
child
or
grandchild,
you
would
call
the
police.
Would
you
not.
A
During
this
time,
we're
only
having
testimony
there's
no
direct
questions
back
and
forth
between
the
the
committee
and
our
witnesses
at
this
time,
but
representative
hardaway,
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
respond
as
soon
as
we
finish
this
panel
of
questions
next
on
our
list,
madam,
if
you
would
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
you
will
have
four
minutes.
O
O
I
have
been
working
on
over
a
decade
on
speaking
on
these
issues
as
they
affect
children
in
schools,
because
they
don't
have
a
voice
here
today.
In
my
years,
working
alongside
survivors
of
child
trafficking
and
child
exploitation,
I
can
tell
you
that
child
exposure
to
pornography
is
not
a
matter
of
education,
theory,
public
perception
or
parenting
style.
It's
a
matter
of
sexual
grooming
of
children
with
measurable
effects
of
trauma.
O
O
So-Called
progressives
have
attempted
to
inject
pornography
into
radical
sex
education
purporting
it
to
be
an
educational
resource
which
should
make
which
to
inject,
which
should
be
made
available
to
kids
at
their
discretion,
adding
that
it's
an
equity
issue
to
boot-
and
this
includes
sexting
one
another
which
is
now
identifiable
as
csam
child
sexual
abuse,
material,
they're,
encouraging
the
proliferation
of
child
sexual
abuse
material
between
peers,
including
using
pornhub
a
porn
resource
as
an
education
for
children,
they're
promoting
pornhub,
which
has
a
record
of
trafficking
victims
that
have
been
in
our
federal
courts.
O
Coming
to
these
courts,
saying
I've
been
raped,
I've
been
abused
as
a
child
on
these
platforms
and
we're
dealing
with
that.
So
this
is
being
promoted
in
schools
and
this
is
coming
down
the
train.
That
is
what
the
context
that
I'm
here
to
offer
today
is.
This
is
a
test
they
can
repackage
it
any
way
they
want,
but
it
doesn't
change
these
measurable
detrimental
effects
of
early
exposure
to
sexual
content,
which
is
very
well
documented.
O
If
we
allow
sexual
grooming
via
porn
exposure
to
continue
to
be
tolerated
and
normalized
we'll
continue
to
see
more
children
abused,
there
is
a
direct
connection
between
porn
and
health
outcomes.
As
of
2020
16
states
designated
porn,
a
public
health
hazard
in
2017
tennessee
passed
a
senate
joint
resolution
designating
it
as
such.
The
united
states
human
trafficking
advisory
report.
This
year,
page
29-31
addressed
the
intersection
between
porn
trafficking
and
child
sexual
exploitation.
O
These
radical
sexual
theories
have
already
caused
measurable
harm
to
children
and
they
will
only
become
more
extreme
as
we
allow
the
overton
window
of
acceptability
to
be
distorted
and
infringed.
Parents
don't
want
their
children
exposed
to
pornographic
content,
nor
do
they
want
their
children
exposed
to
any
sexual
content
from
anyone.
O
Without
their
explicit
consent,
no
adult
should
be
permitted
to
distribute
pornographic
content
to
miters,
no
matter
if
you're,
a
stranger
at
a
public
park,
a
librarian
at
a
public
library
or
a
teacher
at
a
public
school,
the
location
or
person
doesn't
matter
the
sexual
grooming
and
predatory
nature
of
it.
Does
I'm
here
today
to
serve
that
public
warning
of
what's
to
come?
O
If
we
don't
put
protective
common
sense
measures
in
place
to
protect
our
most
vulnerable
members
of
society,
children
we'll
see
cases
of
sexual
exploitation,
sex
trafficking,
sex
abuse
at
school
and
at
home
increase,
as
well
as
peer-to-peer
sexual
abuse
increase
stemming
from
early
sexualization
and
grooming,
and
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
29
point
million
over
29.3
million
reports
to
nick
mack,
the
national
center
for
missing,
exploited
children
were
reported.
These
reports
include
child
sex
trafficking,
child
exploitation.
O
The
reporting
of
these
crimes
is
only
going
to
go
up
as
this
grooming
continues
to
be
allowed
in
our
culture
in
our
society
and
our
libraries
and
in
our
schools.
I
understand
the
real
agenda
behind
this
push
and
it's
a
sexual
rights
agenda
for
children.
That's
coming
down
the
pipeline
via
government
schools.
O
I
and
becoming
aware
of
the
crisis
of
pornographic
novels
in
public
school
libraries.
I
contacted
the
florida
citizens
alliance.
They
found
the
school
libraries
throughout
their
state
have
been
infiltrated
with
pornographic
novels
from
them.
I
obtained
44
book
reviews
of
porn
novels
in
their
schools
and
found
approximately
15
of
those
books,
titles
in
the
libraries
of
williamson
county
schools.
I
I
I
I
I
Boys
grow
to
be
men
who
see
women
as
disposable
objects
and
themselves
as
predators
and
females
see
themselves
as
victims
to
be
sexually
abused
by
males
from
dr
judith
reisman's
extensive
research
on
the
effects
of
pornography
on
children.
She
has
said
obscenity,
exemptions,
permit,
educators
to
assault
underdeveloped
brains
with
sexual
imagery
and
language,
which
causes
confusion
and
emotional
and
developmental
problems.
I
I
I
I
I
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
direct
a
question
to
lori
cordo
moore.
It's
my
understanding
that
you
are
on
the
textbook
commission.
Is
that
right,
that's
correct!
Sir!
Do
you
know
of
any
investigation
or
task
force
that
has
put
been
put
together
from
either
the
school
boards
or
school
superintendents
to
investigate
this
matter
once
it
was
found
out.
M
M
We
know
that
the
the
parent
allowed
an
elementary
student
to
go
to
a
designated
area
in
the
library
that
has
all
of
these.
This
questionable
content,
the
parent
agreed
to
let
it
let
the
child
check
out
the
book
and
the
child
brought
the
book
home,
and
when
the
parents
saw
the
content
in
the
check
in
the
the
the
book,
the
library
book.
That's
when
we
it
was
brought
to
our
attention.
E
And
I'm
trying
to
be
real
brief,
where
I'm
trying
to
go
with
this
is
is
what
has
been
done
from
the
standpoint
of
our
schools,
our
district
attorneys,
our
law
enforcement,
because,
according
to
the
testimony
that
I've
heard
today
and
which
I
believe
I
don't
know,
but
I
believe
that
it
is
against
the
law
for
this
kind
of
material
to
be
passed
to
children.
E
And
if
I
was
to
do
it,
especially
as
a
rape
state
representative,
I'd
be
run
out
of
the
state.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
here
is
what
has
been
done
on
the
school
level
through
the
department
of
education
through
our
law
enforcement
through
our
district
attorney
or
this
state
legislature
has
and
is
addressing
it.
Thank
god.
E
But
it
seems
to
me
that
there
should
have
been
some
kind
of
task
force
put
together
to
go
into
our
libraries
and
see
what
kind
of
materials
that
is
being
viewed
by
our
children.
But,
according
to
your
understanding,
you
don't
know
of
anything.
Is
that
correct?
The.
M
When
I
brought
this
to
his
attention
because
this
book,
this
library
book
is
approved,
it's
on
the
approved
state
board
of
education
library
used
in
the
libraries,
he
started
an
investigation,
I'm
still
waiting
to
find
out
who
approved
this
book
being
listed
as
an
approved
book
library
book
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
because
it
states
on
the
documentation,
as
was
shown
earlier
in
this
hearing,
that
this
book
is
being
used
in
our
and
approved
by
the
state
board
of
education
here
in
tennessee.
This
is.
E
Not
obviously
excuse
me
not
only
has
an
investigation
not
been
put
together,
but
rather
it's
been
approved,
so
one
other
thing
is,
I
know
for
a
fact
personally
that
the
aclu
has
stepped
in
in
matters
of
this,
to
keep
certain
things
out.
E
Okay,
miss
starbuck,
you
you
in
your
statement
you
you
said
that
someone
was
promoting.
E
O
So
united,
the
the
planned
parenthood
federation
of
america,
which
dictates
a
lot
of
the
national
standards
for
comprehensive
sexuality
education
include
this
as
part
of
their
curriculum,
and
this
is
something
that
has
many
different
names.
So
it's
very
difficult.
The
way
they
surreptitiously
inject
it
into
various
states,
various
districts,
their
curriculum
by
how
it's
chosen-
okay.
So,
but
we
do
know
that
it
is
in
america
that
in
new
york
it's
been
in
new
york,
it's
been
in
california.
O
I
could
get
you
a
you
know,
a
list
of
states
that
it
has
been
discovered
in,
but
this
is
definitely
coming
down
the
pipeline
because
it's
part
of
these
frameworks,
the
same
frameworks
that
have
the
same
book
recommendations.
So
it's
very
connected.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
to
our
panel.
We
appreciate
your
time
and
testimony
here
today.
Next
we
have,
we
have
brandy,
howard.
A
A
P
For
comments,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody!
It's
an
honor
to
be
here
to
speak
to
you.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
all
going
through
this
together.
My
name
is
mark
woodward.
I
am
a
a
k-12
music
and
drama
teacher
and
husband
and
father
to
six.
P
I've
been
I've
lived
here
in
nashville
for
21
years.
I
I
love
my
own
kids.
I
love
kids
in
general,
I've
coached
baseball
with
the
rbi
league,
reviving
baseball
in
the
inner
city,
as
well
as
with
creve
hall
baseball.
I
care
about
kids.
P
I
think,
frankly,
that
it
is
absurd
that
I
have
to
cancel
my
morning
schedule
and
come
and
try
to
explain
to
our
people's
representatives
why
pornography
and
obscene
materials
should
not
be
in
schools
and
at
the
risk
of
repeating
what
has
already
been
said.
I
just
want
to
bring
up.
Maybe
maybe
echo
something
that
maybe
somebody
said
before
me,
but
but
you
know
pornography,
it
causes
powerful
chemicals
to
be
released
in
the
brain.
P
It's
not
it
is
it's
like
a
a
substance
that
can
that
is,
is
it
can
be
very
addictive?
Would
we
leave
you
know
heroin
needles
or
meth,
sitting
out
in
schools
for
and
say
you
know,
let's
just
try
this
in
a
safe
environment.
P
You
know
I
when,
when
a
lady
was
reading
earlier
reading,
those
those
descriptions
you
know,
I'm
I'm
someone
said
someone
a
representative
said
last
week.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
read
that
stuff.
I
don't
need
to
read
it
and
I
don't
want
to
read
it
either.
I
don't
want
to
hear
it
you
know,
and
so,
but
we
have
to
in
order
to
to,
as
has
been
said,
think
critically
about
this
subject.
P
We
need
to
know
what
we're
talking
about
and-
and
I
think
that
there
are,
as
has
been
said
and
alluded
to
there,
there
are
forces
at
work
in
this
state
that
do
not
have
our
children
children's
best
health
and
well-being.
P
They
don't
have
that
at
heart,
they're
and
it's
not
healthy
for
kids,
it's
not
good
for
kids,
and
and
it's
not
that
it's
not
that
kids
are
these
little
innocent
creatures
that
that
go
through
life
and-
and
you
know
they're
just
you
know
these
pure
amazing
things-
I
mean
if
anyone
has
had
kids,
you
know
how
smart
they
are.
They're,
they're,
clever,
they'll,
find
things
that
you
never
thought
they
could
find.
I
mean
it's,
and
so
it's
not
an
issue
of
of
well
well.
What
about
what
about
regulating
regulating
this
or
regulating?
P
As
you
know,
those
are
important
things,
but
as
a
as
a
role
of
a
as
a
role
of
of
government,
the
government
has
a
role
to
to
to
protect
children
from
those
things
in
the
capacity
that
the
children
are
in
the
custody
of
the
government,
which
is
in
public
schools
all
day
long
and
so,
and
I
don't
think,
that's
unreasonable.
I
think
that
that
you
know
people
all
across
the
political
spectrum.
P
Agree
on
that
people
that
I
talk
to,
who
are
democrats,
who
are
independents,
who
are
republicans
they
all
look
at
this
stuff
and
they're
like
no.
I
don't
want
my
kids
to
be
reading
that
I
had
a
a
a
very
dear
friend
who
his
first
experience
with
pornography
was
on
the
computers
at
his
school
and
he
was
able
to
go
into
the
library
and
sit
at
a
computer
that
faced
the
wall
and
just
search
for
whatever
he
wanted
to
and,
and
there
were,
there
was
literature.
Also.
P
That
was
found
that
that
you
know
described
these
very
explicit
descriptions
and
and
that
that
type
of
of
material,
like
I
said
earlier,
is
addictive
and
it
does
affect
how
you
view,
for
instance,
how
how
a
boy
views,
women
and
girls
thank.
A
H
H
As
a
former
widow
and
single
mother
of
five,
I
know
first
hand
that
single
parents
need
hb
1944
to
pass
more
than
most
a
nspcc
child
line
survey
concluded
that
one
tenth
of
12
to
13
year
olds
fear
they
are
addicted
to
pornography
as
porn
addiction
rewires.
The
brain
there
is
an
increase
in
hypersexuality
and
a
decrease
in
executive
function.
H
H
If
it
is
true,
according
to
reader
response
theory,
that
readers
experience
text
vicariously
through
the
characters
in
the
story,
then
it
is
absolutely
unacceptable
that
any
student,
especially
those
with
history
of
trauma,
would
be
allowed
to
vicariously
experience,
even
by
accident,
graphic
depictions
of
rape,
incest
or
pedophilic
fantasies
via
books
such
as
out
of
darkness,
the
bluest
eyes.
The
kite
run
kite
runner,
the
handmaid's
tale.
My
friend,
dahmer
opposition
to
criminally
obscene
materials
in
schools
should
only
be
interrupted
interpreted
as
political.
H
Meanwhile,
I
have
been
tasked
with
writing
submitting
and
following
up
with
up
to
200
forms
pursuant
to
policy
4.403
with
little
to
no
guarantee
any
books
will
be
removed.
This
is
unconscionable
while
I
understand
the
need
to
actually
read
a
text
before
considering
age
appropriateness.
I
do
not
understand
why
I
have
said
why
they
have
set
up
a
procedure
that
rapidly
funnels
sexually
explicit
material
into
our
school
libraries
without
question.
But
then
we
begrudgingly
reconsider
those
decisions
at
a
snail's
pace.
H
Parents
who
wish
to
opt
their
child
into
r-rated
materials
can
sign
a
consent
form
via
skyward
if
they
want
to
read
the
books
with
the
increase
in
an
access
to
sem
via
electronics,
as
well
as
an
increase
in
single-parent
unmarried
homes,
are
schools
even
keeping
up
with
the
changing
pruitt
interests
of
minors?
Where
is
the
data
on
this,
and
how
is
it
being
applied
to
avoid
obscenity
in
library,
schools
or
is
the
miller
test
only
applied
against
concerned
parents?
H
Schools
have
disproportionately
prioritized
books
over
all
other
media,
with
consideration
to
other
school
policies
in
place
for
obscenity
many
books
simply
recently
uncovered
in
school.
Libraries
are
patent,
patentedly
offensive
to
prevailing
community
standards,
simply
compare
policies
concerning
obscenity
and
books
with
other
policies
that
objectively
list
what
is
not
permitted
in
student
newspapers,
student
conduct,
dress,
code,
chromebooks
movies
and
music
in
this
day
and
age.
H
H
I'm
brandi
howard,
the
mom
of
two
children
who
have
been
avid
readers,
so
this
is
very
personal
to
me.
H
I
have
appreciated
our
school
and
local
librarians.
Miss
price
and
miss
boheler
would
give
me
a
list
of
recommendations
for
my
kids
because
they
read
through
books
so
quickly.
They'd.
Give
me
that
list
of
recommendations.
I
would
go
check
out
those
books
and
hand
them
to
my
kids.
I
never
vetted
those
books
because
I
trusted
those
librarians.
H
I
especially
I
trusted
that
they
were
going
to
give
my
children
safe,
age-appropriate
books
or
recommend
those,
especially
if
they
came
from
a
school
library.
Parents
didn't
know
that
they
needed
to
look
at
this
stuff.
They
assume
that
schools
have
already
vetted
the
material
like
so
many
parents
and
probably
a
lot
of
people
here.
H
H
I've
heard
people
say
that
hb
1944
isn't
necessary
because
there's
already
a
process
in
place
to
take
care
of
this
there's
no
problem
like
just
follow
the
process
right
yeah,
I
heard
laughs,
it's
true
the
14,
the
4.403
request
for
reconsideration
process.
H
H
H
So
that
probably
answers
why
they
don't
have
appropriate
filters
on
electronic
devices
at
the
library
they
even
say
that
requiring
permission
from
parents
or
teachers
is
called
a
major
barrier
by
the
american
library
association.
You
can
find
it
on
their
website
in
the
ala's
interpretations
of
the
library
bill
of
rights.
They
further
clarify
their
policies.
H
They
say
that
regarding
access
to
library,
resources
and
services
for
minors,
that
library
policies
and
procedures
that
effectively
deny
minors,
equal
and
equitable
access
to
all
resources
available
to
other
users
violate
their
library
bill
of
rights.
The
american
library
association
opposes
all
attempts
to
restrict
access
to
material
based
on
age.
H
Clearly
they
support
free
and
open
access
to
all
information,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
it's
age
appropriate.
The
4.403
process
that
they
published
is
not
an
effective
tool
for
addressing
obscene
materials
in
schools.
That
procedure
does
not
provide
criteria
or
guidance
by
which
those
requests
for
reconsideration
will
be
evaluated.
H
That's
like
trying
to
decide
whether
or
not
somebody
was
speeding
before
you
ever
set
a
speed
limit.
We
need
criteria
and
boundaries
to
be
clarified
and
putting
that
criteria
in
place
is
not
banning
books.
Just
like
speed
limits.
Don't
ban
driving,
putting
an
r
rating
on
a
movie
does
not
ban
that
movie.
H
Setting
guidelines
simply
clarifies
expectations
and
hopefully
provides
the
opportunity
to
rebuild
the
trust
that
parents
once
had
in
their
schools
and
their
libraries.
The
obscenity
law
provides
that
criteria
and
everyone,
including
libraries
and
schools,
should
be
equally
subject
to
that
law.
So
I
ask
you,
please
vote
yes
for
hb
1944.
Thank
you.
A
We'll
start
down
here
on
this
end
and
we'll
work
our
way
across.
If
you
will
identify
yourself
for
the
record,
you'll
have
four
minutes.
Q
Sure,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
andrew
maranis.
I've
lived
in
williamson
county
for
12
years
and
in
tennessee
for
34,
I'm
a
father
of
an
11
year
old
daughter,
an
eight-year-old
son,
I'm
an
author
of
four
books
on
sports
and
history
for
teens,
and
I'm
here
to
speak
today
against
hb1944.
Q
I've
enjoyed
those
conversations
and
I
never
saw
anyone
express
any
concerns
about
the
character
or
morals
of
the
librarians
on
those
visits.
So
I've
been
shocked
by
the
demeaning
portrayals
of
public
school
teachers
and
librarians.
In
previous
gatherings
of
this
committee,
I've
been
even
more
disappointed
by
both
the
figurative
and
literal
applause
and
support
for
these
baseless
accusations.
Q
Q
There
was
a
recent
story
in
the
houston
chronicle
in
san
antonio
express
talking
about
300
cases
of
clergy
members
accused
of
sexual
crimes.
Recently,
exposure
to
the
bible
is
not
the
answer
here.
I
don't
think
it's
any
coincidence
that
this
push
to
ban
books
and
criminalize
teachers
and
librarians
is
coming
in
response
to
the
increase
in
the
diversity
of
books
published
for
young
readers,
increased
diversity
of
subject
matters
and
the
authors
themselves.
Q
Nor
is
it
coincidence
this
is
happening.
At
the
same
time,
this
legislature
has
gerrymandered
away
the
voice
of
the
people
in
nashville
and
is
attempting
to
usher
in
religious
charter.
Schools
that
teach
dangerous
lies
about
civil
rights.
History
talk
about
being
on
the
wrong
side
of
history.
It's
all
part
of
the
same
ugly,
christian
nationalist
playbook.
Q
Some
of
you
might
dismiss
my
claims
as
partisan,
but
I
would
argue
they
only
reflect
traditional
american
values
that
are
under
assault
by
this
so-called
super
majority.
If
that's
partisan,
so
be
it
as
americans.
We
are
wary
of
government
intruding
into
our
personal
lives,
including
our
bookshelves
as
americans.
We
value
personal
responsibility,
including
their
responsibility,
to
tell
the
truth
to
act
with
reason
and
not
to
make
hysterical
and
unfounded
claims,
such
as
schools,
promoting
pornhub
as
americans.
We
respect
hard-working
public
servants
in
our
communities,
such
as
teachers,
librarians
and
principals.
Q
We
don't
sacrifice
them
to
further
a
selfish
political
agenda
as
americans,
we
are
deeply
skeptical
of
attempts
to
ban
books
and
even
more
skeptical
people
who
cherry-pick
sentences
in
order
to
make
false
claims.
Speakers
before
this
committee
have
quoted
passages
from
the
bible,
so
let
me
do
the
same
there.
She
lusted
after
her
lovers
whose
genitals
were
like
those
of
donkeys
and
whose
emission
was
like
that
of
horses.
So
you
long
for
the
lewdness
of
your
youth
when,
in
egypt
your
bosom
was
caressed
and
your
young
breasts
fondled.
Q
Would
anyone
argue
that
the
bible
is
a
work
of
pornography?
Certainly
not
so,
let's
not
cherry-pick
it
accomplishes
nothing.
Instead,
let's
have
qualified
people,
judge
books
on
their
merits
and
their
totality.
That's
exactly
what
we
already
do
in
tennessee
and
we
already
have
systems
in
place
for
parents
who
wish
to
challenge
the
book.
This
law
is
unnecessary
and
the
conversation
around
it
is
nothing
but
a
side
show
our
school
librarians
do
an
amazing
job,
curating
themselves,
with
appropriate
books.
Q
Libraries
become
a
safe
and
welcoming
place
for
our
students
where
they
can
read
for
class
or
for
enjoyment.
School
libraries
are
the
first
furthest
thing
from
a
threat
to
students,
well-being
in
fact,
they're
one
of
the
greatest
assets
we
have.
Just
two
years
ago,
the
american
library
association
named
tennessee
their
national
chapter
of
the
year
same
people
as
speaker,
who
called
child
predators
the
other
day,
while
many
in
this
room
nodded
their
heads
come
on.
That
is
absurd.
Q
Q
C
All
right,
thank
you,
chairman
doggett.
Thank
you
leaders
for
the
opportunity.
My
name
is
lindsay
kimmery
and
I'm
the
past
president
of
the
tennessee
association
of
school
librarians.
I've
been
a
librarian
and
teacher
for
over
20
years
in
the
school
districts
of
williamson
county
and
metro
nashville
public
schools.
I
was
raised
in
tennessee
public
schools
and
I'm
a
mother
of
four
sons.
Who've
all
been
educated
in
our
school
systems,
I'm
here
to
share
about
the
reconsideration
policy
known
as
4.403
that
exists
in
our
school
districts
and
how
this
is
a
solution.
C
C
The
objective
of
a
reconsideration
policy
is
for
schools
and
districts
to
have
a
standard
procedure
to
review
and
respond
to
concerns
about
school
library
materials.
Despite
careful
selection
of
library,
resources
and
the
qualifications
of
those
involved
in
the
selection
process,
objections
to
library,
resources
that
are
deemed
offensive
or
inappropriate
may
occur.
C
This
provides
a
way
for
any
current
parent,
guardian,
employee
or
student
of
a
school
district
to
express
an
informal
concern
or
formal
request
for
reconsideration
of
a
library
resource
4.403,
acknowledges
support
for
the
principles
of
intellectual
freedom,
inherent
in
first
amendment,
rights
of
students
and
references
supreme
court
case
of
island
trees,
union
free
school
district
versus
pico,
which
found
that
the
removal
of
books
from
a
school
library
may
violate
students
first
amendment
rights.
If
the
removal
is
based
on
an
unconstitutional
motivation,
we
encourage
parents
to
start
at
the
school
level.
C
Talk
with
the
librarian
talk
with
the
principal
in
my
17
years
as
a
school
librarian.
I
learned
that
listening
to
parent
concerns
and
working
with
parents
only
made
my
library
program
stronger
any
time
I
received
a
concern
from
a
parent.
We
were
able
to
work
together
to
best
meet
the
needs
of
their
child
and
no
further
action
was
needed.
C
C
The
school
librarian
can
provide
the
reconsideration
form,
which
asks
for
the
following
information
for
the
parent
to
provide
the
title
and
author
of
the
work.
What
brought
the
resource
to
their
attention
if
they
have
read
the
entire
resource
or
reviewed
certain
sections?
What
concerns
do
they
have
about?
The
resource
are
the
their
resources.
They
suggest
to
provide
additional
information
or
other
viewpoints,
and
what
action
are
they
requesting
the
committee
to
consider
following
receipt
of
this
completed
form?
C
An
ad
hoc
committee
is
formed
at
the
school
level,
which
typically
includes
administrators,
a
librarian
language,
arts,
teachers
and
community
members.
The
committee
reads
the
work
in
its
entirety
and
reviews
the
information
from
the
complainant.
They
consider
the
work
for
its
overall
purpose,
authenticity,
appropriateness,
content
and
reviews
of
the
book.
The
committee
has,
between
10
days
and
two
weeks
to
reach
a
decision,
and
this
is
per
book.
If
a
parent
is
not
satisfied
and
desires,
further
action,
they
may
appeal
to
the
board
and
the
same
process
is
repeated,
but
the
board's
decision
is
final.
C
R
Hi,
thank
you
so
much.
I
am
sharon
edwards.
I
am
current
president
of
the
tennessee
library
association
and
I
just
want
to
thank
y'all
so
much
for
your
time
today.
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
thing
that
everybody
comes
here
and
y'all
sat
here
and
listened
to
all
of
this.
This
is
thank
you.
This
is
what
democracy
looks
like,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here.
I
will
be
speaking
against
hb
1944
on
behalf
of
the
tennessee
library
association
and
I'm
going
to
have
three
points.
My
first
point
is
redundancy.
R
The
bill's
own
fiscal
note
states
that
tennessee's
harmful
to
minor's
law,
which,
incidentally,
does
not
have
an
educational
exception,
already
makes
the
provision
of
obscenity
to
minors
illegal
in
1944's.
Fiscal
note
also
implies
that
obscenity
isn't
an
issue
at
all
in
school
libraries,
because
the
fiscal
note
says
quote:
it
is
reasonably
assumed.
Leas
are
currently
prohibiting
materials
considered
harmful
to
minors
from
being
available
to
students
in
school
libraries.
R
The
reason
the
fiscal
note
can
be
so
sure
about
this
statement
is
because
tennessee
code
defines
obscenity
with
the
miller
test
and,
if
you're
unclear
what
the
miller
test
is.
It's
in
the
fiscal
note
as
well
and
remember
for
an
item
to
be
considered
obscene.
It
has
to
pass
all
three
conditions
of
the
miller
test.
The
fiscal
notes
to
this
bill
also
gives
the
number
of
harmful
deminers
convictions
over
the
past
decade
and
that
number
is
2.5.
R
So
if
the
intent
behind
hb
1944
is
to
keep
obscenity
out
of
the
hands
of
miners,
then
our
current
tennessee
code
and
the
sound
professional
judgment
of
our
school
libraries
and
school
boards
are
already
doing
this.
My
second
point
is
a
financial
impact.
The
fiscal
note
only
accounts
for
the
cost
of
convictions
in
it,
and
this
on
the
state
and
municipality
budgets,
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
it
says
that
lease
are
not
providing
obscenity
and
there's
only
been
2.5
convictions
in
the
past
decade.
R
These
books
are
freely
available
to
all
ages
at
walmart
and
amazon,
any
other
bookstore,
and
if
they
were
defined
as
obscene
they
would
not
be.
This
would
not
be
the
case.
So
when
the
books
are
removed
from
schools,
it
opens
our
schools
up
to
first
amendment
lawsuits
that
they
cannot
afford
and
I'm
not
speculating.
This
is
already
happening.
The
aclu
is
looking
into
mcminn
county
right
now
they
issued
a
press
release
on
it
and
in
bedford,
county
schools.
R
Two
at
two
schools,
two
theater
performances
were
canceled
because
of
this,
and
I
don't
think
the
aclu
knows
about
that.
But
if
they
did
like
what
would
happen
there,
I
mean
I
was
born
and
raised
in
bedford
county.
I
live
in
lincoln
county
now,
but
that's
I
know
they
don't
have
the
money
to
fight
this.
So
my
third
point
is
government
overreach
based
on
the
amendment.
R
R
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
three
things.
The
first
is
parents
already
have
a
right
to
examine,
curriculum
and
request
alternative
instruction.
The
second
thing
is
school
districts
already
have
processes
and
policies
in
place
for
book
challenges
and
removals
and
school
libraries
already
have
their
catalogs
online.
R
So
this
amendment
upends
every
decision
made
by
local
municipalities
and
I
can't
help
but
wonder
what
the
local
county
commissions
would
think
about
the
state
coming
in
and
telling
them
that
their
work
isn't
good
enough
or
it's
not.
You
know
I
mean
tell
them
what
to
do
so.
Ultimately,
I
think
this
entire
discussion
and
I've
heard
points
today
that
even
point
to
this,
I
think
it
points
to
the
fact
that
we
need
a
state
school
library
coordinator.
R
If
something
comes
up
about
public
libraries,
we
all
can
just
go
to
secretary
harrogate
and
he
goes
to
chuck
at
the
tsla
and
he
gets
with
the
regional
directors
and
they
get
with
the
libraries
in
their
district.
There's
an
ecosystem
there's
an
organization
in
place
already.
I
couldn't
help,
but
laugh
last
week
when
one
of
the
speakers
was
like
well,
let's
send
an
email
to
all
the
libraries.
Do
you
know
there's
no
way
to
even
do
that.
B
J
B
J
B
Have
expressed
concern
about
the
coughing,
it's
asthma
due
to
someone's
perfume,
but
I
will
keep
my
mask
on
in
an
abundance
of
caution.
My
name
is
kimberly.
Brubaker
bradley
I've
lived
in
bristol
tennessee
for
25
years.
My
two
children
are
graduates
of
bristol's
tennessee
high,
I'm
also
a
number
one
new
york
times:
best-selling
author
of
children's
books,
a
two-time
newbery
honor
award
winner
and
winner
of
the
2018
volunteer
state
book
award
for
the
book
that
middle
school
students
in
tennessee
called
their
favorite
voted
on
as
their
favorite.
B
B
Please
consider
the
following
from
the
any
21
state
of
the
child
report
by
the
tennessee
commission
on
children
and
youth
47
percent.
Nearly
half
of
tennessee
public
school
students
receive
free
lunch.
Their
families
often
do
not
have
money
to
spare
to
buy
their
children
books
after
paying
for
basic
needs.
B
One
in
twelve
public
school
students
do
not
resp
one
in
twelve
tennessee
public
school
students
do
not
receive
internet
in
their
homes,
one
in
five
lack
either
internet
or
a
device
that
connects
online.
They
cannot
access
books,
online,
tennessee's,
public
libraries
are
excellent,
but
many
factors
limit
low-income
children
from
making
use
of
them
around
2
percent
of
tennessee
public
school
students
20
thousand,
are
homeless
in
any
given
year.
People
without
permanent
addresses
cannot
get
library
cards
around.
B
One
percent
of
our
public
school
students
are
in
foster
care
and
kids
in
foster
care,
usually
can't
get
library
cards
in
our
rural
communities.
Transportation
is
often
a
problem.
Many
of
the
schools
served
by
appalachian
literacy
initiative
are
over
half
an
hour's
drive
from
the
nearest
public
library.
So
when
these
frivolous
book
bannings
occur,
they
are
hurting
the
most
vulnerable
students
in
our
state,
the
ones
that
need
access
to
school
libraries
and
school
books
in
order
to
succeed,
but
there's
another
aspect
to
consider.
B
Sometimes
the
book
that
one
parent
might
consider
inappropriate
for
their
own
child
is
the
same
book
that
will
dramatically
improve
another
child's
life.
My
2021
newbery
honor,
winning
novel,
is
called
fighting
words.
It
is
the
first
book
written
specifically
for
grades
five
through
eight
that
tactile
sexual
assault
and
its
effects
head-on.
B
According
to
the
united
states
department
of
justice,
one
in
four
girls
and
one
in
six
boys,
that's
to
say
one
in
five
children,
20
percent
in
the
united
states
are
sexually
assaulted.
Child
sexual
assault
victims
often
feel
as
though
they
are
to
blame
for
what
happened
to
them.
My
novel
assures
them
that
they
are
not
and
arms
them
with
an
example
of
how
to
speak
up
and
end
abuse,
and
it
has
done
so.
S
S
Although
today,
I'm
speaking
only
for
myself,
I
have
many
colleagues
who
could
not
attend
today,
because
it
is
it's
a
they're
in
schools
today
reading
to
children
from
their
books.
Naturally,
I
find
the
idea
of
restricting
children's
access
to
books
and
potentially
punch
punishing
librarians
and
educators
for
giving
books
to
children
extremely
alarming.
S
I
have
two
main
questions
for
this
committee
to
consider.
First,
I'm
wondering
why
this
bill
is
necessary
at
all.
Tennessee
schools
already
have
policies
in
place
that
allow
parents
to
challenge
materials
that
they
feel
are
inappropriate
for
their
children
going
after
educator,
educators
and
charging
them
with
obscenity
seems
like
overkill
when
there
are
other
avenues
available
to
protest,
a
particular
item
in
the
library.
S
If
current
policies
aren't
serving
parents
satisfactorily,
how
does
escalating
in
this
fashion
solve
the
problem,
because
I
can
certainly
see
some
new
problems.
It
will
cause
first
amendment
lawsuits
that
our
school
systems
will
have
to
litigate
with
their
already
limited
resources,
time
and
money
that
would
be
better
spent
educating
children.
S
Second,
I'm
also
wondering
exactly
who
gets
to
determine
which
materials
are
detained
are
deemed
offensive
pornography.
Since
people
supporting
this
bill
have
been
excerpting
works,
they
find
offensive
and
pornographic.
I
wanted
to
call
your
attention
to
a
particular
work.
They
have
overlooked
that
could
be
added
to
your
list.
S
S
Now
am
I
suggesting
that
we
ban
the
bible
from
libraries
or
that
we
levy
obscenity
charges
against
any
adult
who
provides
one
to
a
child
no
and
for
one
important
reason,
context
matters.
I
understand
that
for
christians,
the
ultimate
message
of
the
bible
is
that
jesus
died
to
redeem
humanity's
sins.
S
If
you
remove
all
of
these
violent,
sexually
explicit
elements
from
the
bible,
because
they're
potentially
offensive
or
pornographic,
where
is
the
sin
from
which
jesus
will
save
us
context
matters?
So
if
I
turn
to
one
of
the
quote
offensive
poor,
not
pornographic
books
cited
by
some
of
the
people
supporting
this
bill,
monday's
not
coming
by
tiffany
d
jackson,
it's
mainly
the
story
of
a
missing
girl,
but
it
also
contains
descriptions
of
sexual
acts
along
with
foul
language
which
many
have
cited
as
inoffensive
as
offensive
and
inappropriate.
S
But
I've
read
the
entire
book,
so
I
understand
the
context.
It
contains
a
critique
of
how
our
society
sexualizes
young
women
and
especially
young
women
of
color.
It
shows
how,
as
soon
as
a
young
girl
develops
a
womanly
figure,
be
she
15
or
13
or
even
10.
There
are
men
who
will
comment
on
her
body.
There
will
men
who
were
in
try
and
engage
in
sexual
activity
with
her.
S
So
I
ask
you:
how
can
you
indict
the
sexualization
of
girls
if
you
can't
portray
what
it
looks
like,
even
if
it's
ugly
and
offensive-
and
maybe
your
girls
live
in
a
place
where
no
man
will
comment
on
their
bodies
or
target
them
sexually
until
they
turn
18
and
if
they're,
that
fortunate?
This
book
might
not
be
for
them?
A
T
T
In
addition
to
making
sure
mistakes
aren't
repeated
from
the
past,
books
can
be
a
powerful
tool
in
catalyst
to
talk
about
issues
that
directly
affect
youth.
Today,
the
books
I
was
exposed
to
in
high
school
gave
me
the
courage
to
speak
up
against
my
own
experience
with
sexual
violence
and
helped
me
to
process
that
journey
and
realize
I'm
not
alone
books.
T
Like
speak,
the
bluest
eye,
when
the
caged
bird
sings
and
now
I
want
to
read
fighting
fighting
words
over
there
and
many
others
became
places
for
me
to
see
others
find
their
voice
through
hardship
and
for
me
to
get
the
courage
to
speak
up
and
advocate
for
myself.
T
T
In
my
work
with
high
school
age
survivors,
what
has
come
up
again
and
again
as
a
true
solution
to
break,
is
breaking
the
silence
and
stigma
around
sexual
violence.
The
students
have
actually
called
for
schools
to
teach
about
sexual
harassment
consent
and
how
to
advocate
for
themselves.
I
think
this
is
how
we
best
protect
our
students.
T
I
also
wanted
to
share
a
solution
that
was
suggested
by
a
youth.
I
worked
with
within
the
justice
system,
who
has
committed
sexual
assault.
When
asked
the
question
of
what
does
he
think?
Our
community
could
do
to
stop
people
with
sexual
disorders
like
him
from
acting
on
those
impulses.
He
named
that
he
wished.
He
had
been
educated
about
what
he
was
feeling
in
schools
and
had
the
chance
to
learn
what
he
could
have
done
to
get
to
get
help
for
him
before
he
did
anything.
K
Thank
you
chairman
and
first
I
just
want
to
tell
you
how
much
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
This
is
a
representative
democracy
and
we
represent
by
our
votes.
What
you
think
what
your
desires
are,
and
if
you
don't
get
involved,
then
we
do
what
we
want
to
do.
Okay,
it's
like
in
a
relationship
we
go
as
far
as
you.
Let
us
go
all
right.
K
The
sense
of
of
well
I'll
just
say:
I'm
offended
as
you
are
when
librarians
are
compared
to
sex
predators
and
your
actions
are
compared
to
sex
trafficking
and
if
anyone
doubts
this
then
go
back
and
look
at
the
testimony
from
last
week,
but
I
will
tell
you-
and
I
could
show
you
some
of
my
text
messages
this
morning,
okay,
but
I
will
end,
mr
chairman,
by
simply
saying
that
take
this
with
you,
I
got
it
from
my
daddy.
You
may
often
be
outnumbered,
but
never
be
outmanned.
E
And
I'll
take
the
opposite
side
of
the
view
of
that.
I
certainly
do
not
appreciate
the
fact
that
you're
allowing
pornography
and-
and
I
noticed
that
none
of
you
all
read
from
any
of
those
books.
You
read
from
the
bible
and
most
of
you
is
read
from
the
bible
and
you
read
from
the
new
living
version,
which
is
a
very
graphic
version.
E
I
don't
use
that
the
king,
james
version
does
not
use
that
language,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that,
and
so,
if
you're
so
proud
of
the
work
that
you're
putting
in
these
libraries.
Why
didn't
you
come
here
with
the
literary
and
read
it
and
explain
how
great
that
it
is
I'm
appalled
at
the
fact
that
that
you
treat
me
and
those
of
us
that
don't
agree
with
you
as
if
we're
illiterate
and
an
elitist
you
act
out
like
an
elitist
and
you.
A
A
A
All
right
we're
going
to
go
back
into
session,
we're
back
into
session
now,
chairman
curcio,
a
brief
comment.
Thank.
D
You,
mr
chairman,
and
appreciate
everyone's
passion.
I
know
we've
been
at
this
for
now
for
two
weeks
and
I
think
we're
getting
near
the
end.
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
talk
about
I'm
going
to
go
out
on
a
limb
here
and
say
that
there's
not
a
single
member
of
the
general
assembly
that
thinks
children
should
have
access
to
pornography.
D
We
we
absolutely
all
wholeheartedly
believe
that,
but
I'm
reminded
of
when
I
was
running
for
office.
The
first
time
I
represent
a
pretty
rural
community
and
I
remember,
knocking
on
a
door
in
murray
county.
Had
an
old
farmer
come
to
the
door
and
he
said
so.
You
want
to
go
to
nashville
boy,
and
I
said
yes,
sir.
I
do
so
I
think
I'd.
Do
you
a
good
job?
He
said.
D
Well,
that's
fine,
he
said,
but
when
you
get
there
make
sure
that
you're
a
workhorse
and
not
a
show
horse,
I
said
what
do
you
mean
by
that
he
said.
Well,
you
know,
don't
do
all
that
huffing
and
puffing
actually
get
something
done,
and
so,
as
I
read
through
this,
I
want
to
explain
this
because
I
think
it's
important.
D
I'm
a
father
of
three
children,
which
is
age
appropriateness.
There
is
a
bill
that
does
that.
That
does
not
violate
the
constitution,
and
so
for
that
reason
I
cannot
support
this
bill.
I
absolutely
support
your
effort.
I
completely
agree
that
allowing
children
to
have
access
to
pornography
is
abhorrent,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
a
workhorse
and
not
a
show
horse.
I
want
to
pass
a
bill.
That's
going
to
stop
it.
This
won't
stop
it.
Thank
you.
F
Members
of
this
committee
I
happen
to
be
carrying
both
those
bills,
and
I
know
that
both
these
bills
do
different
things.
The
other
bill
that
the
chairman
is
referencing
he's
somewhat
right
on.
It
does
different
things
to
provide
things
that
are
transparent,
things
that
are
available
to
parents,
but
it
doesn't
do
what
1944
does
1944
is
not
unconstitutional,
he's
100
percent
wrong.
F
I've
had
legal
minds.
Look
at
this
to
say
we
already
have
the
ability,
through
the
miller,
test,
to
do
this
and
in
the
bill
it
sets
up
the
skeletal
process
of
how
not
a
librarian
but
a
school
board,
the
elected
representatives
of
those
individual
counties
in
the
state
of
tennessee
in
those
districts.
F
F
F
A
Thank
you
leader,
lambert
is
next
on
my
list
move
previous
question.
Previous
question
has
been
called
any
objection,
seeing
none
we're
now
voting
on
sending
house
bill
1944
as
amended
on
the
full
criminal.
Madam
clerk,
please
take
the
rope.