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House State Government Committee- March 23, 2021
A
A
B
Welcome
welcome
everyone
to
march
the
23rd
state
government
committee
meeting
here
a
little
overcast
today
here
in
nashville,
but
anyway
we're
not
going
to
let
that
down
for
our
spirits.
Of
course,
not
at
all.
With
that
we're
going
to
turn
to
ms
robbins,
our
clerk
and
ms
robbins,
would
you
take
the
role
please.
C
B
Wonderful
then
that
means
we
can
put
it
in
gear
and
get
going
here
again.
We
want
to
welcome
everyone,
members
to
you,
particularly
those
also
sitting
here
in
our
committee
room
and
joining
us
today,
but
never
shall
we
forget
those
of
you
who
may
be
viewing
in
from
wherever
from
wherever.
That's
the
way
to
leave
it
right
there.
B
B
I
see
none,
so
let
us
of
course
our
first
order
of
business
is
turning
our
attention
to
chairman
carr
chairman
carr
has
joined
us
he's
back
in
nashville
this
week.
It's
we,
we
did
miss
you.
Yes,
we
did
miss
chairman
carr
last
week
and
we
so
noted
that
chairman,
by
the
way,
I
don't
know
if
you
were
viewing
or
viewing
in
or
not,
but
we
did
and
thank
you
would
you
being
that
your
name
has
been
called.
Would
you
want
to
to
make
any
comments,
sir?.
B
Absolutely
well.
Thank
you,
sir,
for
your
service.
Okay,
let
us
not
ever
forget
this
day
in
history.
Let's
turn
our
attention
to
this
day
in
history,
1775.,
patrick
henry.
He,
yes,
it
was.
He
who
gave
his
famous
speech
to
the
second
virginia
convention
during
which
he
uttered
his
most
famous
quote:
there's
not
anyone
in
this
room
that
can't
quote,
give
me
liberty
or
give
me
death.
B
That's
right!
This
speech
is
considered
to
have
helped
sway
virginia
then
the
most
populous
and
prosperous
of
the
colonies
into
joining
the
bubbling
or
budding
revolutionary
movement
number
two.
Let's
go
to
1806,
having
reached
the
pacific
coast
after
nearly
two
a
two
year
expedition,
it
was
meriwether,
lewis
and
william
clark.
B
B
We
will
we
we
will
begin
and
we'll
turn
our
attention
to
our
calendar.
If
you
will
item
number
one
house,
joint
resolution,
10.
and
leader
lambert,
you
are
recognized,
sir
welcome.
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
leader
lambert.
Would
you
proceed
and
present
us
this
resolution,
sir?.
C
Mr
chairman,
I'd
like
to
give
chairman
curcio
credit
for
being
particularly
interested
in
your
days
in
history,
he
was
riveted,
so
just
so,
you
know
on
this
particular
resolution.
This
is
something
we
passed
last
year.
This
would
be
the
second
general
assembly
that
hopefully
would
be
successful,
and
it
is
literally
a
cleanup
of
the
line
of
succession
issues
on
when
the
governor
may
be
temporarily
out.
This
dates
all
the
way
back
to
the
bredesen
days
when
he
had
gone
through
a
temporary
illness
and
there
really
wasn't
anything
in
the
constitution.
C
So
if
this
were
to
be
successful,
it
would
set
up
how
the
lieutenant
governor
would
step
in
if
necessary.
You
know
in
a
temporary
temporary
issue
if
the
governor
is
unavailable
to
be
able
to
serve
during
that
time
period
got.
B
You
well
well,
it's
well
explained
and
my
apology
leader
to
you,
I
missed
a.
I
stated
a
house
joint.
It
is
members
senate
joint
resolution.
Any
questions
to
leader
lambert
got
a
question.
I
heard
the
call
for
the
question
I
see.
No
objection
therefore
will
allow
us
to
vote
for
senate
joint
resolution
10
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
B
Okay!
All
right
item
number,
two!
Thank
you
chairman
our
leader.
Thank
you.
All
right
item
number
two
house
bill
72
by
chairman
halsey,
chairman
halsey.
That's
your
seat!
Sir!
Thank
you,
mr.
D
Chairman
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
in
the
subcommittee,
this
bill
came
out
of
the
criminal
justice
task
force
from
2019
in
the
last
10
years.
The
incarcerated
population,
age,
50
and
older
in
tennessee's,
increased
51
percent
and
in
fact,
in
2018,
there
was
over
1776
individuals
aged
60
and
over
in
in
tennessee
prisons.
B
If
I
may
interrupt,
you
do
have
an
amendment
on
this
one
and
you
may
be
in
my
apology.
You
may
be
explaining
the
amendment
we
do
need
to
get
this
amendment
on
there.
Can
you
give
us
your
tracking
code,
sir?
You
know
I
do
not
have
the
amen
well,
allow
me
to
help
you.
How
does
4373
sound
members?
Do
you
all
see
that
all
right
it
is?
It
is
a
friendly
amendment
and
do
I
have
a
motion.
B
I
hire
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
on
on
the
amendment
chairman
hulsley.
You
may
proceed
again
my
apology,
sir
okay.
D
B
Very
good
good
explanation,
any
questions
to
the
sponsor.
Regarding
the
amendment
regarding
amendment,
we
got
a
question
called.
Do
I
don't
see
any
objections
to
the
calling
question,
therefore,
allow
us
to
vote
on
amendment
number
one
tracking
code,
4373,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
likes
on
the
eyes.
Have
it
chairman,
hudson
we're
back
now
on
your
on
your
bill,
72,
sir.
Any
closing
remarks.
Yes,.
D
Sir,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
We
spend
roughly
two
to
three
times
more
to
to
take
care
of
geriatric
folks
and
under
the
existing
law
in
tennessee.
D
The
only
remedy
we
have
is
called
a
medical
furlough,
and
it's
pretty
high
bar
in
fact
we're
one
of
the
stiffest
tapes
in
in
tennessee
with
medically
impaired
folks
in
in
the
penitentiary.
But
it
says
you
have
to
be
an
imminent
peril
of
death
and
you
cannot
take
care
of
yourself
in
a
prison
environment.
This
bill
does
two
things
it.
It
changes
the
existing
lawn.
D
It
provides
a
mechanism
for
chronically
debilitated
or
incapacitated
inmates
to
be
certified
for
parole
consideration
if
the
inmates
at
least
70
years
of
age-
and
he
served
at
least
five
years
in
custody
and
he's
not
in
prison
for
a
violent
sex,
offense
or
life
without
parole,
and
at
that
point
they
have
to
have
two
sworn
affidavits
from
one
of
them
from
the
department's
medical
office.
Our
officer
certifying
that
the
intimate
condition
is
chronic,
that
it's
incurable,
that
it
will
likely
result
in
the
inmates
death
within
one
year.
D
The
other
part
of
it
changes
the
verbiage
for
this
medical
furlough
and
says,
in
this
case
an
inmate.
If
his
prognosis
is
mortality
within
a
year
or
he
can
no
longer
take
care
of
himself
and
the
reason
I'm
saying
this
is
important.
We
have
some
inmates
that
are
million
dollar
million
dollar
inmates.
The
state
actually
purchased
its
own
dialysis
machine
for
the
number
of
inmates
that
are
going
through
kidney
dialysis.
D
B
I
hear
a
call
for
the
question
I
do.
I
see
no
objections,
therefore
allow
us
to
now
vote
for
house
bill
72
as
a
men
did,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
find
the
eyes
have
it
and
chairman
you.
Congratulations,
you're
headed
to
calendar
and
rules.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Please
note
committee
that
item
number
three
house
bill
348
has
been
taken
off
notice.
Let's
move
on
down
to
item
number
four
that
we
are
going
to
recognize
at
this
time.
That's
house
bill
1347..
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
let's
see
we,
I
see
no
amendments,
we're
going
to
turn
our
attention
now
to
you,
chairman,
curse,
yo,
good,
welcome!
Welcome
on
board,
sir
thank.
E
The
history
of
the
day
give
me
liberty
or
give
me
death.
That
was
great.
Yes,
thank
you,
members.
The
bill
you
had
before
you
hospital
1347
was
actually
born
out
of
a
something
that
was
brought
to
light
during
a
fiscal
review
committee
and
has
to
do
with
the
powers
that
we
granted
to
the
executive
branch.
These
are
not
powers
that
the
governor
has
an
inalienable
right
to.
E
Rather
they
are
powers
that
we
shared
with
the
governor,
and
we
say
during
state
of
an
emergency
that
the
governor
may
create
executive
agencies
any
any
number
of
other
boards.
Things
like
that,
but
what
I
didn't
realize
and
what
I
think
most
tennesseans
didn't
realize
is
that
when
one
of
those
is
created
they
also
can
have
procurement
budgets.
E
They
can
have
employees,
they
can
have
all
sorts
of
things,
and
this
came
out
during
a
conversation
in
committee
where
there
was
a
contract
of
about
26
million
dollars
that
had
been
signed,
and
I
asked
a
very
simple
question,
which
was
at
what
point
will
this
contract
come
before
the
general
assembly?
When
will
when
will
the
people
have
oversight
over
this
process?
E
And
the
response
was
never-
and
I
said
well
help
me
understand
that
I've
sat
on
gubops.
I've
sat
on
fiscal
review
and
we
we
typically
get
to
review
those
things.
Departments
and
agencies
have
sunsets
and
the
response
was.
But
this
is
not
a
typical
agency.
This
was
created
under
the
governor's
emergency
powers
and
because
of
that
there
is
no
sunset.
There
is
no
oversight
by
the
general
assembly
and
I
want
to
stand
before
you
today.
As
a
tennessean
to
say,
I
completely
agree
that
pandemics
or
other
natural
disasters
create
states
of
emergencies.
E
I
think
our
executive
branch
needs
the
ability
to
move
quickly
and
unilaterally
when
that's
appropriate,
but
I
also
can
imagine
a
time
when
someone
could
absolutely
abuse
that
power,
and
so
what
this
bill
would
do
is
it
does
not
take
away
the
ability
for
the
executive
branch
to
to
create
one
of
these
things.
It
simply
defines
executive
agency,
and
it
says,
as
the
governor
the
executive
branch
creates.
E
One
of
these,
then,
within
60
days,
they've
got
to
go
before
the
gov
ops
committee
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
it
needs
to
continue,
and
that
simple
amount
of
oversight,
I
think,
is
something
that
our
constituents
would
expect
is
reasonably
happening
anyway.
Again,
just
like
every
department
or
agency
has
a
sunset
now
and
has
oversight,
but
I
think,
if
we're
not
careful
left
up
to
someone
less
scrupulous,
I
mean
think
about.
E
It
begs
the
question,
so
I
don't
think
that
this
was
the
original
intent
of
the
emergency
powers,
and
so
we
just
want
to
create
some
guardrails
there
to
make
sure
that
we
can
look
at
that.
B
Chairman
curcio,
we
have
and
members
we
we
do
have
a
request
for
testimony
and
and
I'll
turn.
My
to
you
chairman.
Do
you
want
to
now
accept
or
address
any
questions
or
shall
we
await
and
go
ahead
and
allow
testimony
and
then
and
then
conclude
with
I'll,
do
whatever.
B
If
you
would,
you
know
the
routine
ms
yancey
identify
yourself
and
your
position,
if
you
would
and
we
we
we're
go,
we
have
the
we
have,
how
about
five
minutes,
we're
going
to
give
you
five
minutes.
F
So,
okay,
it
is
the
intent
of
title
58
chapter
two
to
provide
for
the
coordination
of
activities
relating
to
emergency
preparedness,
response,
recovery
and
mitigation
among
and
between
agencies
and
officials
of
this
state.
F
Last
march,
in
april,
states
were
fighting
tooth
and
nail
with
each
other
competing
for
a
very
limited
supply
of
personal
protection,
equipment
or
ppe,
so
that
our
health
care
workers
and
first
responders
could
be
protected.
Speed
and
adaptability
were
critical
to
seize
on
ever-changing
market
conditions
and
opportunities
so
fast
forward
to
2021.
F
F
Emergency
management
has
many
moving
parts
and
complex
features
that
touch
all
aspects
of
state
government
and
we
need
to
fully
evaluate
how
those
parts
work
together
before
we
change
the
system,
tennesseans
are
still
grappling
with
the
ongoing
emergency,
and
flexibility
is
still
essential
to
tennessee's
recovery.
This
bill
would
limit
governor
lee's
management
of
the
current
emergency.
F
We
don't
feel
like
we
should
change
the
rules
in
mid-stream.
This
bill
would
affect
every
type
of
emergency
in
the
future.
It
is
not
limited
to
pandemics
or
health
related
emergencies,
even
if
it
were
limited
that
way.
Events
such
as
earthquakes
and
floods
often
wipe
out
key
infrastructure
like
water
and
sewer
systems
and
rapidly
become
health
emergencies
as
well
emergencies
develop
at
breakneck
speed.
There
are
an
infinite
number
of
decisions
that
must
be
made
literally
around
the
clock.
Vast
resources,
including
emergency
personnel,
may
need
to
be
deployed
at
a
moment's
notice.
F
Systems
and
processes
must
be
developed
to
get
information,
supplies
and
people
where
they
need
to
be
instantly.
The
governor
can
effectively
and
simultaneously
address
all
of
these
dynamics.
At
the
front
end,
this
bill
would
impose
committee
review
on
the
governor's
management
choices
while
an
emergency
is
underway,
but
it's
not
clear
what
the
committee
oversight
is
intended
to
solve.
F
Governor
lee
did
not
create
a
governmental
entity
to
respond
to
the
emergency.
He
did
create.
Excuse
me
he
did
create
a
framework
for
his
cabinet
and
trusted
advisors
to
keep
abreast
of
the
latest
developments
and
brainstorm
and
implement
appropriate
responses.
This
is
precisely
the
type
of
collaboration
that
supports
good
emergency
leadership.
F
Moreover,
the
the
committee
review
this
bill
contemplates
may
be
impossible
during
certain
types
of
emergencies
like
a
natural
disaster
that
prevents
enough
committee
members
from
getting
to
nashville
the
provision
regarding
eliminating
procurement
and
contracting
flexibility
is
a
very
troubling
aspect
of
the
bill.
From
the
governor's
perspective,
procurement
and
contracting
flexibility
were
among
the
most
essential
elements
of
tennessee's
emergency
response.
F
F
Every
hospital
and
truly
every
country
around
the
world
tennessee
would
have
lost
vital
contacts,
contracts
for
ppes
and
other
critical
supplies
without
the
flexibility
that
you
all
had
allowed
that
flexibility
would
go
away.
If
this
bill
passes,
it
would
hamstring
access
to
supplies,
and
it
adds
extra
time
that
between
tennesseans
and
scarce
emergency
supplies,
when
they
are
needed,
the
most,
for
example,
if
a
natural
disaster
knocks
out
electricity
in
your
community,
which
it
does
on,
am
I
there.
C
F
Okay,
which
it
does
on
a
regular
basis,
generators
and
fresh
water
are
needed
immediately.
This
would
prevent
your
constituents
from
giving
getting
those
supplies
quickly,
rather
than
procuring
supplies
immediately.
The
state
might
be
forced
to
go
through
red
tape
on
the
front
end
and
supplies
could
arrive
too
late.
F
Contracts
are
subject
to
the
comptroller's
oversight
and
review
from
this
body,
and
it's
important
that
we
don't
lose
that
we
not
prevent
tennesseans
from
getting
emergency
supplies
when
they
need
them.
B
B
G
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
your
testimony.
I
want
to
make
two
points.
One
point
is
I
you
talk
about.
Now
is
not
the
right
time
because
of
a
pandemic,
but
I've
seen
a
dozen
bills
go
through
health
and
this
committee,
where
you're
deferred
on
and
watching,
but
it
seems
like
we're
cherry
picking
on
which
ones
that
you
want
to
do
here.
Second,
is
I
sit
on
fiscal
review?
Garcia
I've
been
on
physical
review
for
for
three
years
now.
I
don't
think
it
takes
away
the
flexibility.
G
G
It
was
not
a
good
thing.
It
was
not
a
good
contract
and
I
understand
what
you
have
to
do
quickly,
but
we're
just
saying
60
days
later,
that
we
can
address
this
and
say:
hey,
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
here
or
you
know
there
is
not
nothing
comparably
bid
here
or
sole
source,
and
I
get
all
that
we're
just
saying
a
little
oversight.
Your
flexibility
remains
the
same.
If
it's
a
natural
disaster,
do
it
a
little
a
little
ways
down
the
road?
G
Let
us
look
at
it
and
and
say
hey.
This
is
a
good
idea.
This
is
not
a
good
idea
and
it's
what
the
legislative
branch
does.
That's
our
role
and
that's
part
of
checks
and
balances.
So
I
I
think
it's
a
good
bill.
If
you
want
to
comment
on
the
flexibility
part
and
having
some
oversight,
two
or
you
know
two
months
later,
which
I
think
is
appropriate,
but
nothing
takes
away
from
the
flexibility
of
you
having
to
make
a
game
time
decision.
Would
you.
B
Want
to
respond
chancey.
F
Any
contract
that
was
entered
into
under
the
unified
command
group,
which
that's
the
group
that
was
put
together
by
the
governor,
to
coordinate
all
these
activities.
F
All
those
contracts
either
went
through
tema
or
they
went
through
the
department
of
health
and
both
of
those
organizations
are
subject
to
the
comptroller's
audits
automatic
I
mean
they
just
are
that's
part
of
it.
So
I
was
a
little
confused
by
the
response
by
that
person
saying
you
would
never
see
that
contract
because
we
actually
presented
that
contract.
F
We
went
back
and
watched
the
tape
to
make
sure
I
didn't
get
this
wrong,
but
the
commissioner
had
copy
of
that
contract
there
and
it
was
shared,
and
I
mean
we
can
do
it
again
and
it
is
subject
to
an
audit.
I
think
our
big
concern
on
the
60
days
is,
if
we're
in
a
situation
where
things
could
be
much
worse
than
the
pandemic.
We've
had
I'm
you
know,
there's
so
many
opportunities
or
so
many
situations
where
a
natural
disaster
could
happen
that
could
hamstring
the
legislature
from
getting
here
in
60
days.
F
G
F
H
You,
mr
chairman,
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
like
the
last
year
emergency
purchases
and
were
they
or
are
they
not
audited
by
someone?
I
think
you
mentioned
the
comptroller,
it's
all
of
them.
Yes,.
F
B
H
F
Yes,
sir,
I
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
the
answer
on
how
quickly
the
comptroller
audits
I
mean,
I
know
they're
in
an
audit
cycle,
because
fiscal
review
gets
those
audits,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
about
that
timeline,
but
all
the
contracts
that
we
have
done
up
until
now
either
went
through
tema
or
the
department
of
health.
So
while
the
unified
command
group
would
coordinate
how
to
do
them,
they
were
signed
off
by
either
the
team
of
director
or
the
commissioner
of
health
and
those
then
become
part
of
the
audit
process.
F
I
Thank
you
and-
and
I
under
understand
your
points
I
mean
I
do-
have
reservations
about
removing
the
governor's
powers
and
emergencies
I
mean.
I
think
that
that
is,
is
essential
and
and
and
hates
to
ponder
that,
although
I
you
know
there
were
certain
purchases.
I
know
that
were
made
that
the
the
public
has
been
unhappy
about.
Members
of
the
general
assembly
have
been
unhappy
about,
and
you
know
the
specifically
the
the
mass
the
sock
mass.
I
I
mean
that
was
a
huge
fiasco,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
having
a
little
bit
more
oversight
can
be
productive
and
making
sure
that
that
we're
really
going
about
these.
These
purchasing
in
these
contracts,
in
a
in
a
very
and
I
get,
unfortunately,
states
were
put
in
this
bidding
war
with
one
another.
I
I
wish
with
the
federal
government
would
have
done
more
to
procure
those
different
items
much
earlier
in
the
pandemic
and
not
for
states
to
compete
against
each
other
so
much,
but
that
was
the
situation
we
put
in.
Hopefully,
the
federal
government
has
learned
from
that
and
moving
forward
if
we
are
put
in
the
situation
again,
we'll
act
differently,
but
I
mean
I
think,
as
described.
I
What
I
see
in
this
bill
makes
sense
that
it's
good
for
us
to
have
some
oversight,
because
I
was
getting
a
lot
of
calls
personally
from
people
of
my
constituents
who
were
not
happy
with
some
of
the
different
things
that
were
bought
by
the
by
the
executive,
the
state
of
tennessee.
So
you
know
happy
to
respond,
but
that's
that's
my
thoughts
on
the
matter.
Thank
you.
B
Ms
yancy
response:
okay,
further
questions
to
to
ms
yancy.
While
we
have
her
cornered,
I
see
none
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
today.
Thank
you,
we're
going
to
go
back
in
and
we're
going
to
return
if
there's
no
objection,
we're
going
to
return
to
come
out
of
recess
and
we're
back
into
session.
Thank
you.
We're
going
to
now
direct
our
attention
back
to
you,
chairman
curcio.
You
have
heard
the
testimony.
Would
you
like
to
address
any?
Maybe
any
questions
or
maybe
comments
from
you,
sir?
Yes,.
E
Sir,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity,
and
again
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
question
was
wait
a
minute.
I
you
know,
I
sit
on
fiscal
review.
I
thought
single
source.
No-Bid
contracts
came
to
fiscal
review.
I
thought
that
was
the
point
interjection
was
made.
Well,
that's
because
the
commissioner
didn't
sign
in
their
capacity
as
commissioner
this
person
signed
as
unified
command.
E
So
with
the
stroke
of
a
pen,
I
can
now
step
outside
of
the
oversight
of
the
general
assembly
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
the
folks
who
elect
us
and
decide
which
hat
I
go
where
at
which
time,
and
that
is
what
gave
me
pause
again.
I'm
not
saying
there's
not
a
time
and
a
place
for
it.
I'm
just
saying:
can
we
come
back
on
the
back
end
and
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
oversight
that
we
need
so
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions?
Certainly
all.
D
B
E
Thank
you,
sarah
for
the
question.
Yes,
you're,
you're
reading
it
exactly
right
and
I've
sort
of
been
very
open
to
any
suggestions
from
the
administration
on
how
to
you
know,
wordsmith
that
if
they
had
any
concerns
that
no
no
suggestions
came
back
and
so
after
much
consultation,
you
know
with
other
house
members
and
and
talking
about
kind
of
what
we
saw
and
heard
during
that
fiscal
review
committee.
We
felt
that
this
was
the
most
appropriate
way
to
go
forward.
E
I
did
also
you
know,
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
gov
ops
does
meet
quite
frequently.
I
looked
at
at
various
timetables
six
months
a
year.
What
have
you
and-
and
ultimately
this
is
kind
of
kind
of
what
came
back
so
absolutely
because
I
think
when
there's
that
much
money
at
stake,
we,
the
people's
voice,
needs
to
be
heard.
B
Chairman
follow
up
okay,
chairman
halsey
says
enough's
enough
there.
For
with
him
we're
going
to
now
direct
our
attention
to
we're
going
to
recognize
you
speaker,
johnson,.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
chairman.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
So
if
we
look
at
the
short
answer,
in
my
view,
is
yes
because
and
as
I
define
executive
agency
here
in
the
bill,
any
agency
authority
board
commission
department,
office
or
quavi
quasi
governmental
entity
in
the
executive
branch
of
state
government
or
any
independent
entity
of
state
government
that
is
created
by
the
use
of
the
governor's
emergency
powers.
Pursuant
to
this
chapter,
that's
what
surprised
me
was
that
unified
command
I
knew
about
unified
command.
I
was
very
happy
that
unified
command
existed.
C
E
J
Ops
for
several
years-
and
I
always
understood
that
they
had
three
options.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
understand
this
because
you
just
said
that
the
executive
agency
had
the
power
to
sign
a
contract
and
purchase
some
products
or
services.
H
E
You,
mr
chairman,
absolutely
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
do
that.
The
part
again
that
was
so
shocking
was
that
there
was
not
a
formalized
review
process.
The
way
there
would
be
again
any
other
single
source
or
no
bid
contract
typically
comes
before
fiscal
reviews.
My
understanding
of
it
when
I
served
on
it,
that's
what
we
reviewed,
and
so
I
just
asked
because
this
was
in
a
meeting
of
fiscal
review.
Don't
forget,
and
the
only
reason
that
the
commissioner
was
before
us
is
because
one
of
our
dear
friends
in
the
media
broke
a
story.
E
So,
of
course
we
did
what
we
do
very
well
in
the
general
assemblies.
We
we
reacted
to
a
lot
of
hot
fire
and
said
well,
we
need
to
bring
this
person
in
and
ask
them
questions.
I
shudder
to
think
what
would
happen
if
that
story
had
not
been
broken,
because
we
did
we
we
had.
You
know,
as
has
been
told
to
me.
Well
chairman,
every
time
you
asked
you
know
to
see
a
contract
or
review
something
it
was
provided
to
you.
I
wholeheartedly
agree:
that's
why
this
bill
is
not
aimed
at
this
administration.
E
E
Well
again,
this
bill
doesn't
talk
about
if
there's
wrongdoing
that
would
that
would
be
something
completely
different.
This
just
talks
about
them,
giving
a
recommendation
as
to
whether
to
continue
or
discontinue
the
the
agency
underneath
the
emerge,
the
governor's
emergency
powers,
but.
K
L
E
Wholehearted
sorry,
I
didn't.
I
wholeheartedly
agree
that
the
governor
did
nothing
wrong.
That's
why
this
bill
is
not
about
our
current
governor
at
all.
It
highlighted
the
broad
latitude
that
we've
granted
again.
These
are
not
powers
that
are
typically
seated
with
the
executive
branch.
We
gifted
them
to
the
executive
branch,
and
I
just
think
that
we
ought
to
have
some
guardrails.
H
Speaker
well,
and
I
agree-
I
think,
we've
got
to
have
a
leader,
a
governor,
that
that
leads
when
we
have
a
situation
like
this,
and
I
think
we've
got
to
give
them
a
lot
of
leeway
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
us
auditing
after
it's
over,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
hamstring
them
in
any
way
to
get
the
job
done.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
a
question
after
thinking
about
it
a
little
bit
on
this,
the
60-day
period
after
the
agency's
creation.
Well,
what
happens
if
that
agency
really
hasn't
done
anything,
but
the
agency,
like
you,
said,
might
still
be
in
existence
nine
months,
the
action
that
we
might
be
concerned
with
happens
in
on
day
75.
A
E
Thank
you,
sir,
for
the
question
again.
This
bill
doesn't
specifically
contemplate
that,
but,
as
when
recommendations
come
out
of
gov
ops,
you
know
if
that
that
emergency
power
continued
to
be
exercised,
the
general
assembly
is
then
on
notice.
They
know
exactly
what's
going
on,
because
the
recommendation
has
come
out
of
gov
ops,
that
hey
there
is
an
executive
agency,
that's
been
created
under
the
governor's
emergency
powers
and
therefore
we
are
now
watching
it.
That's
exact.
That
is
exactly
the
heart
of
this
legislation.
I'm
really
glad
you
asked
that.
B
Chairman
brickin
says
no
more,
okay,
further
questions,
we're
about
to
wrap
this
up.
Okay,
did
I
get
a
question,
or
did
I
hear
a
question
on
this?
I
think
I
did.
I
don't
see
any
opposition
we're
ready
to
vote
members,
those
in
favor
on
house
bill
1347,
please
say:
aye
aye,
those
oppose
like
sign
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
chairman
curcio
congratulations.
You
are
headed
to
gov
opps.
E
B
B
B
Going
to
move
on
now
to
item
number
five
house
bill,
809,
representative
powell,
from
your
seat,
I
assume
you
are
recognized,
sir.
They
got
a
motion
and
a
second
representative
pal
all
right
proceed.
Please.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
this
bill
deals
with
license
plate
readers
license
plate.
Readers
have
been
used
by
law
enforcement
recent
years
with
great
success,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
data
that
is
captured
using
license
plate
readers
for
those
government
purposes
is
kept
as
confidential
and
is
not
available
and
open
to
the
public
for
inspection,
because
we
don't.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
the
privacy
of
tennesseans,
but
you
know
these
license
plate.
B
Well
explained
members:
you
have
heard
an
explanation
of
the
bill.
Any
questions
to
the
sponsor
we've
got
a
question
called
for
the
question.
I
see
no
objections,
we're
ready
to
vote
those
in
favor
of
house
bill
809,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
signing
eyes.
Have
it.
Congratulations,
representative.
I
B
A
B
Correct
so
do
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
amendment
we
do
all
right.
We
are
ready
to
here
have
a
any
questions
to
the
sponsor.
On
the
amendment.
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
I
hear
a
call
for
the
question
and
I
see
no
objections
so
therefore
we're
ready
to
vote
on
amendment
one
tracking
code,
5163,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
locks
on
the
eyes
have
it.
We
now
have
that
amendment
representative
cochran
on
your
bill,
sir.
Please
proceed.
Thank
you,
mr.
E
House
bill
1514,
currently
so
the
threshold
for
a
city
for
a
municipality
to
hold
a
vote,
a
liquor
by
the
drink
referendum.
You
have
to
have
at
least
925.
C
People
this
lowers
that
to
700,
essentially
just
giving
more
municipalities
control
over
their
own
future
and
and
how
they
want
to
proceed
with
liquor
by
the
drink
referendum.
B
B
Oh
let's
vote
on
house
bill
1514
as
amended
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
those
opposed
locks
on
the
eyes
have
it
bill
passes,
and
now
you
are
headed,
saddle
up,
you're
headed
to
calendar
and
rules
all
right.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
committee,
and
and
it's
good
to
see
two
of
my
esteemed
colleagues
from
the
best
freshman
class
ever
here
right
on
the
front
row.
So
I
have
an
important
piece
of
legislation
here
and
it
enhances
our
statewide
911
service
that
is
house
bill.
173
requires
the
emergency
communication
board
to
develop
a
statewide
implementation
plan
to
address
text
the
911
service.
As
of
may
2020,
11
of
tennessee's
911
stations
were
ready
and
38
more
were
in
the
process
to
launch.
We
expect
full
implementation
date
would
be
january.
J
The
1st
2023
just
a
few
examples
of
why
9-1-1
text
9-1-1
is
critical
for
those
with
physical
limitations
such
as
speech
or
hearing
challenges,
medical
situations
like
allergies
or
strokes,
victims
who
have
been
abducted,
domestic
violence
situations,
human
trafficking
and
also
public
space.
Shootings
such
as
schools
or
shopping
centers
911
is
funded
by
a
tax
or
tariff
paid
to
cellular
companies.
Last
year,
the
legislature
approved
an
increase
from
a
dollar
16
cents
per
phone
per
month
to
a
dollar
and
fifty
cents
per
phone
per
month
in
january.
J
In
anticipation
of
the
next
generation,
nine
one
one
that
includes
text
to
9-1-1,
it
is
important
that
we
have
consistent
9-1-1
service
across
our
state,
and
this
includes
the
ability
to
text.
It
is
also
the
sponsor's
understanding
that
the
ecbs
will
have
access
to
state
funding
for
these
upgrades
so
I'll
entertain.
Any
questions.
B
I
Sure
I
I
really
do
appreciate
this
piece
of
legislation.
I
I
guess
I
just
had
a
question
and
maybe,
if
you're
able
to
answer
this,
so
if
there
was
an
emergency-
and
I
texted-
I
would
literally
just
text
9-1-1
and
do
they
then
text
back
to
get
location?
How
does
that?
How
does
that
they
would.
I
Powell,
great
and,
and
would
their
system
have
an
ability
to
if
you
didn't
text
back
I
mean
I
know
sometimes
by
accident
I'll,
try
to
power
off
my
phone,
and
I
know
everyone
in
here
is
actually
probably
called
with
their
cell
phone.
You
know
hitting
the
wrong
button
and
starts
calling
you
can
cancel
it
quickly.
Would
they
know
if
you
didn't
text
back
your
location
to
be
able
to
to
assist
representative.
J
I
don't,
I
can't
answer
that
completely.
I
would
think
they
would
be
able
to
ping
your
location
because
I
know
they
can
do
that,
but
I
don't
have
the
the
direct
answer
to
that.
I
You're
absolutely
pal.
Well,
that's
all
right!
I
appreciate
the
legislation,
I'm
sure
that'll
be
you
know,
resolved
or
figured
out,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
and
clearly,
as
we
change
more
people
text
to
have
this
function
and
then
also
people
are
really
threatening
situations
and
they
can't
make
a
phone
call.
It's
great
piece
of
legislation.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
again
I
fully
support
the
bill
and
I
think
all
hopefully,
all
911
districts
will
quickly
implement
9-1-1
texting
capability.
I
I
do
want
to
be
certain
the
sponsor.
I
think
he
made
a
statement
about
the
dollar
fifty
per
month
per
phone
bill
that
it
was
designated
to
help
implement
this
cost
again.
A
So
our
tennessee
citizens
with
that
dollar
fifty
is
paying
around
200
million
dollars
a
year
into
the
system,
but
I
want
to
be
sure
everyone
knows
that's
only
about
one-third
of
the
operating
costs
for
9-1-1
in
the
state.
It's
a
500
to
600
million
dollar
a
year
operation.
So
it's
it's
a
big
deal.
A
lot
of
money
goes
in
to
this
service.
A
I
do
kind
of
wonder
about
the
ongoing
reoccurring
cost
of
techs,
because
I,
generally
speaking
once
the
equipment
and
operation
is
purchased
in
place.
I
would
certainly
think
that
cost
should
be
fairly
minimal,
but
again
I'm
not
a
technical
expert
there.
But
again
I
just
wanted
to
be
certain
that
I
made
the
statement
about
the
funding
sources
here.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
B
Well,
thank
you,
chairman
rick,
and
your
response
representative
mattis.
Do
you
have
a
responsibility?
Thank.
J
You,
mr
chairman,
I
representative,
bricken,
and
I
had
had
this
conversation
and
I
confirmed
with
the
senate
sponsor
I
shared
senator
massey
your
concerns
and
she
and
I
agree
that
the
ecb's
will
have
access
to
that
state
funding
for
these
upgrades
and
somewhere
in
my
notes,
I
ask
the
knox
county
911
what
the
ongoing
annual
expenses
would
be
and
it
was
somewhere
like
ten
thousand
dollars
it
was.
It
was
small,
relatively
small
speaking
so.
C
C
L
Thank
you,
chairman
representative,.
L
I
was
on
a
zoom
call
the
other
day
with
special
needs
girl
who
could
only
sign-
and
she
wants
this
bill
because
she
was
in
an
accident
and
couldn't
let
anybody
know
because
she
had
no
way
to
tell
them.
She
would
call
9-1-1
and
they
she
wouldn't
answer
so
they'd
hang
up.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
piece
of
legislation.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
us.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
this
bill
was
brought
to
senator
massey
and
myself
from
a
former
constituent
of
mine
who
is
is
in
a
rare
situation.
She
can
hear
everything
she
just
can't
speak,
and
so
she
was
in
an
accident
and
she
tells
the
story
about.
She
was
in
an
accident
with
a
hearse,
a
funeral
hearse
and
representative
alexander
may
remember
this,
and
the
casket
was
okay.
She
that
she
dented
the
hearse,
but
she
was
not
able
to
call
and
report
any
of
those.
B
Okay,
further
questions
to
the
sponsor
call
for
the
question
has
been
made,
and
I
see
no
objections
therefore
allow
us
to
vote
on
house
bill
173,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
likes
on
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
you,
sir,
mr
man,
you
are
headed
on
to
representative
to
finance
ways
and
means.
Congratulations,
sir.
B
C
C
It
was
only
state
school,
we
didn't
put
any
private
higher
education
classes
in
that,
so
we're
just
changing
the
wording
to
simply
say,
and
all
it
does
is
add
or
private
to
the
to
the
language,
and
it's
all
permissive,
and
in
no
way
does
it
make
a
college
or
a
higher
institution
apply
for
a
liquor
license.
It
just
makes
it
permissive
for
them
to
do
so,
and
with
that
I
renew
my
motion.
B
Thank
you
chairman.
My
apology
to
the
committee.
I
failed
to
announce
the
bill
number
and
that's
house
bill.
1082.
all
right.
You
heard
an
explanation
from
chairman
carr.
Any
questions
to
the
chairman
got
a
question
and
I
see
no
objections.
Therefore,
let
us
vote
on
house
bill
1082,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
those
opposed
like
sign
and
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you
chairman.
B
All
right
get
your
traveling
pants
on
chairman
you're,
headed
to
finance
ways
and
means
item
number
nine
house
bill
682
by
our
host
legislator,
representative
beck
you're,
recognized
again
on
house
bill
682.
We
have
a
motion.
We've
had
a
second,
you
are
up
representative
beck.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
have
a
amendment
traveling.
Yes,
you
do
in
my
apology.
Would
you
give
us
that
tracking
code
3820,
you
are
exactly
correct,
so
let
us
get
a
motion
in
a
second
and
yes,
we
do.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
amendment
number
one.
B
Those
call
for
a
question.
Would
you
would
you
want
to
let's
get
a
let's
get
this?
We
need
to
get
it
on
the
bill
here.
So
do
I
hire
a
call
for
the
question.
I
do
see
no
objections.
Let
us
vote
on
amendment
number,
one,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
like
son.
We
are
now
we
have
amendment
number
one
now
on
the
bill
and
representative
beck.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
J
J
After
we
remodeled
in
2015,
we
added
a
cafe
lula
and
right
now,
cafe
lula
can
only
serve
alcohol
during
a
performance
at
the
ryman,
and
this
bill
would
allow
them
to
serve
alcohol
when
there
are
no
performances
at
the
ryman
and
also
in
the
patio
area,
in
the
parking
lot
when
it's
roped
off
and
with
that
explanation.
Mr
chairman,
I
renew
my
motion.
B
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you,
sir.
Any
questions
to
the
sponsor.
We
got
a
question
on
the
on
the
bill.
Do
we
yeah?
We
got
a,
I
see,
no
objections.
So
let
us
vote
on
house
bill
682
as
amended
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
those
opposed
likes
on
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
you,
sir
representative,
beck,
are
headed
to
finance
ways
and
means.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
Sir.
Thank
you
we're
now
on
item
10.
B
L
Recognition,
thank
you
committee.
This
bill
is
for
the
that
authorizes:
the
sale
of
alcohol,
alcoholic
beverages
on
on
on-premises
consumption
at
five
locations
in
gensburg,
the
historical
jackson,
theater,
the
jonesboro
repertory
theater,
the
international
storytelling
center,
the
mckinney
center
and
the
jonesboro
visitors
center.
This
will
allow
them
to
do
it.
These
are
properties
that
are
owned
by
municipalities,
but
they
will
be
getting
their
liquor
license
in
other
ways.
B
Okay,
you've
heard
an
explanation
of
the
bill.
Any
questions
to
the
sponsor
I
have
one
I
have
one
jonesboro
is
officially
our
oldest.
B
B
B
That's
right:
wasn't
it?
Okay
got
a
call
for
the
question
and
I
see
no
objections.
Therefore
allow
us
to
vote
on
house
bill
201,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
representative
alexander
finance
ways
and
means
item
number
11
house
bill,
404,
representative,
carringer,.
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
this
esteemed
board
committee
that
I
serve
on.
I
know
I
know
that's
county
local.
I
corrected
myself.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
bring
to
you
all
house
bill
404
that
was
brought
to
me
by
secretary
of
state's
office
and
it
primarily
relates
to
the
regional
library
boards.
The
department
of
state
believes
that
it
would
be
more
productive
and
beneficial
for
the
library
and
archives
to
eliminate
the
statutory
regional
library
boards
and
simply
meet
regularly
with
the
chairpersons
of
the
local
library.
So
I
will
present
that
and
okay.
B
You
members
you've
heard
an
explanation
of
the
bill.
Any
questions
to
the
sponsor
remember:
we've
got
a
call
for
the
question
and
I
see
no
objections.
Therefore,
let's
vote
on
house
bill
404,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye.
Those
opposed
like
sign
the
eyes
have
it
and
representative
currency.
You
are
moving
on
to
finance
ways
and
means
congratulations,
but
don't
leave
that
seat.
You
are
up
next
with
item
number
12
house
bill,
469
and
you
are
recognized.
Ma'am
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
right
with
that.
B
We
we're
going
to
recognize
you
representative,
carrington.
C
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
bring
to
you
house
bill
469,
which
was
brought
to
me
by
the
treasury
department
and
they
hold
the
state's
unclaimed
property
and
they
work
to
return
the
property
to
rightful
owners.
C
This
bill
amends
current
law
to
reflect
that
federal
law
was
recently
changed
to
move
the
required
minimum
dispro
distribution
aged
from
70.5
to
72..
So
in
summary,
the
tennessee
department
of
treasury
has
requested
this
bill
to
be
carried
in
order
to
come
in
compliance
with
federal
law
and
to
additionally
allow
for
more
efficient
processing
of.
F
B
Very
good,
good
explanation:
any
questions
to
the
bill
sponsor
we've
got
a
call
for
the
question.
I
see
no
objections,
we're
going
to
vote
on
house
bill
469,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
those
opposed
locks
on
the
eyes
have
it
and
representative
carringer
you've
gone
to
finance
ways
and
means
congrats
item
13
house
bill,
please
10
16
and
let
me
let
me
just
pause,
make
sure
everyone
members
make
sure
and
those
in
the
in
the
room.
B
Please
kill
your
cell
phones
make
sure
we
have
total
silence
here,
as
we
recognize
chairman
hicks
with
no
amendments
to
this
bill.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
welcome
chairman
you're
recognized
thank.
J
You,
mr
chairman,
and
committee
house,
bill
1016,
will
update
the
state
401k
match
for
employees
in
the
tca
currently
it
is
set
by
law
at
a
minimum
of
40
dollars
per
month,
but
since
2007
the
funding
has
been
at
50
per
month.
This
update
will
bring
in
line
to
practice
with
the
required
minimum
tca.
Even
with
that.
That's.
B
Got
a
motion:
okay,
great
great
explanation,
and
we
do.
We
have
a
chairman
hall's
claw,
you're
recognized.
B
Thank
you,
chairman
host
claw,
further
questions
to
yes,
representative
chairman
hicks.
Did
you
have
anything.
B
Oh
interesting,
okay,
we'll
remember
that
the
next
tour
we
make
up
that
way.
Okay,
okay,
very
good!
Thank
you
for
that.
Tidbit
of
history
or
okay,
questions
to
chairman
hicks
members-
and
I
heard
I
heard
a
call
for
the
question.
I
don't
see
any.
I
see
no
objections.
Let's
vote
on
house
bill,
1016,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
those
opposed
likes
on
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
chairman
you
are
headed
to
cnr
calendar
and
rules.
You
know
what
those
initials
are.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
committed
congratulations
item
14!
B
Oh
it
is
she
always
this
lady
always
brightens
a
room.
We're
always
proud
to
have
chair
lady
moody
with
us,
and
she
is
bringing
to
us
house
bill
12.
chairman
mood
or
chair,
lady
moody.
You
are
recognized.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
would
you
plea,
proceed
and
present
house
bill
112
for
us.
C
Yes,
and
thank
you
for
your
kind
introduction,
this
bill
would
create
the
state
as
a
model
employer
or
same
and
the
program.
This
program
ensures
that
the
state
agencies
and
departments
design
and
implement
best
promising
and
emerging
policies,
practices
and
procedures
related
to
recruitment,
hiring
advancement
and
retention
of
qualified
individuals
with
disabilities,
and
with
that
very.
B
Good,
okay
members,
you've
heard
an
explanation
of
the
bill.
Those
and
any
questions
got
a
question
called
for,
and
I
see
no
objections.
Therefore,
we're
going
to
vote
on
house
bill
112.,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
hi.
Those
opposed
likes
on
the
eyes
have
it
stay
put,
but
you
are
going
to
take
this
one
to
gov,
ops,
chair
lady
you're.
Next
also
with
item
number
15
house
bill
530
got
a
motion
and
I
got
a
second.
I
see
no
amendments
proceed.
Ma'am.
C
Thank
you
again,
mr
chairman
and
committee.
This
bill
seeks
to
offer
reward
for
information,
leading
to
the
arrest
of
an
any
individual
responsible
for
the
shooting
of
a
law
enforcement
officer.
The
reward
shall
be
ten
thousand
dollars
if
the
officer
is
injured
in
the
shooting
and
twenty
thousand.
If
the
officer
is
killed
in
the
shooting,
very
good.
B
B
C
B
K
Member
amendment
one
is
a
reference
tracking
code
4939,
and
it
makes
the
bill.
B
B
I
do
got
a
call
for
the
question.
I
see
no
objections.
Therefore,
let
us
vote
on
amendment
number,
one
tracking
code,
49
39,
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
was
supposed
like
son,
the
eyes
have
it
and
we
are
moving
now
on
to
the
bill,
as
amended
chairman
rudd
you're
up.
Thank.
B
K
B
K
K
Worked
with
all
the
stakeovers
that
have
contacted
me
and
reached
out
to
me,
this
amendment
reflects
the
advice
of
the
business
community.
I
think
it
makes
a
good
deal
with
all
for
all
anyone
who's
reasonable
that
people
can
live
with.
It
removes
a
requirement
for
a
notice
to
be
at
the
entrance
of
a
building
and
with
only
a
notice
outside
the
bathroom
of
the
entrance
door
of
the
restroom,
which
has
multiple
stalls,
not
a
single
stall.
K
It
also
grants
a
30-day
grace
period
for
property
owners
to
come
into
compliance
if
they're
notified
that
the
sign
or
any
of
the
requirements
of
the
bill
is
invalid,
so
that
they
can't
be
sued
and
have
time
to
adjust.
This
legislation
does
not
discriminate
against
anyone.
It
does
not
prohibit
access
to
any
facility,
it
does
not,
and
it
provides
only
a
notice
that
a
possible,
but
the
opposite
sex
could
be
in
the
restroom
as
you
enter.
K
If
the
property
owner
has
that
policy
in
place,
and
again
it's
only
in
restaurants
with
multiple
stalls,
a
woman
has
a
right
to
know
if
a
man
is
going
to
be
in
her
restroom
and
vice
versa.
For
a
man,
this
leg,
this
legislation
does
exactly
that.
B
Okay,
you've
heard
an
explanation
of
the
the
bill
as
amended
and
and
chairman
I've
got.
I've
got
a
question.
I
want
to
go
back
to
to
those
remarks
there
and
you
know
I
ask
you
by
using
actually
my
son's
office
where
it
only
has
one
well,
we
have
two.
He
has
two
restrooms,
but
only
one
facility
with
each
one
so
that
this
would
not
apply
then
in
in
that
particular
case.
It's
only
where
we
have
multi
facilities
within
a
restroom
is
that.
K
That
that
is
correct
on
in
properties
that
have
public
access
to
restrooms,
where
there
is
a
single
bathroom.
This
would
not
apply
only
in
multiple
stalls,
because
a
a
person
could
not
the
opposite.
Sex
could
not
be
waiting
on
someone
male
or
female
if
it's
just
a
single
stall,
because
one
person
goes
in
at
a
time.
This
is
only
in
locations
where
there's
multiple
stalls
and.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
all
right,
any
questions,
follow-up
questions
to
to
the
sponsor
on
the
bla.
Yes,
we
do
representative
beck
you're
recognized.
Thank
you,
mr.
B
J
Is
what
are
you
going
to
penalize,
or
what
does
this
bill
penalize
a
company
for
if
they
do
not
follow
this
posting
regulation.
K
K
It
does
not
provide
any
any
fines
or
penalties
at
this
point.
This
is
only
saying
that
it's
not
a
legal
policy
to
have.
K
It's
not
excuse
me,
not
the
policy.
You
have
to
at
least
let
somebody
know
it's
just
saying
you
have
to
have
that
if
whether
there's
any
future
action
that
would
be
be
determined
by
the
state.
J
Version
back,
so
let
me
get
this
straight
my
mind.
So
if
you
have
the
policy
that
only
men
can
use
a
men's
room
and
only
women
can
use
the
women's
room,
then
you
do
not
have
to
post.
This.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
J
K
J
Represent
it
back,
so
if,
if
I'm
a
a
a
bar-
and
I
say,
did
I
have
a
policy
written
or
unwritten
that
they're
unisex
bathrooms,
then
you're
saying
I
would
have
to
as
as
the
administrator
of
that
that
bar
I
would
have
to
post
this
this
sign
according
to
your
bill,
is
that
correct
chairman
rudd.
K
If
you
actually
have
a
policy
that
allows
the
opposite
biological
sex
and
to
a
restaurant,
in
other
words,
let's
just
use
an
example
of
a
man-
allows
to
use
a
women's
restroom
with
multiple
stalls.
Then
you
have
to
put
this
sign
outside
if
that's
available
to
the
public.
Now,
if
you
do
not
have
that
policy,
you
don't
have
to
you,
don't
have
to
put
a
sign
outside
the
door.
J
B
J
H
H
K
Well
right
now,
I
don't
know
of
the
matter
of
fact.
I
only
know
of
maybe
two
businesses
as
far
as
large
retailers,
I
don't
know
about
small
individual
businesses
in
the
state.
There's
only
two,
I
believe
national
businesses
that
have
that
policy
and
they
have
nothing
on
their
restrooms
that
I'm
aware
of
except
oddly
enough
in
california.
Some
of
these
businesses
do
put
signs
on
there.
There's
policies
out
there,
I'm
not
sure
representative
morris
what
you're
getting
at
it's
just
a
simple
right
now,
that's
not
a
policy!
K
That's
not
accepted
in
most
businesses.
If
a
owner
sees
a
opposite
sex
going
into
a
restroom,
they
ask
them
to
leave
it's
very
rarely.
You
see
that
in
an
average
business
they
usually
tell
them
to
leave
it's
not
illegal
or
not
illegal.
It's
not
legal
or
illegal
in
tennessee,
but
it's
a
standard
practice
and
most
customers
will
be
feel
very
insecure,
going
under
a
restaurant
with
opposite
sex.
K
K
H
B
G
Thank
you
chairman.
I
got
a
quick
question.
It's
kind
of
what
represented
beck
was
talking
about
with
enforcement,
so
there's
no
state
department
or
agency.
That's
going
to
oversee
this,
like
commerce
and
insurance
is
not
going
to
you
really
wouldn't
know
if
they
have
a
policy
or
not
unless
they
see
it
on
a
website
or
it's
publicly
posted.
So
there's
not
going
to
be
what
what
department
oversees,
whether
this
law
is
being
complied
with
or
not.
I
guess
my
question.
K
Since
it
since
we're
not
making
it
again
we're
not
making,
I
could,
I
could
make
a
law
you're
trying
to
make
this
law
into
something
that
it's
not.
This
does
not
outlaw
a
man
entering
a
women's
restroom;
it
is
not
prohibited,
it
simply
requiring
a
warning
sign
to
be
put
up.
Now.
K
K
B
Further
questions
chairman
jericho,
not
he
says
so
we
are
on
to
representative
chisholm
your
recognizer.
Thank
you,
chairman.
C
A
So
with
this
bill,
it
doesn't
put
you
it
doesn't
put
unisex
on
on
the
bathroom.
K
Well,
it's
not
aimed
at
restaurants
or
bars.
It's
aimed
at
any
property
that
allows
that's
open
to
the
public
that
allows
opposite
sex
to
use
a
restroom
that
has
multiple
stalls.
Most
of
your
smaller
businesses
only
have
single
stalls.
Some
just
have
one
restroom,
it's
open
to
both
one
person
at
a
time,
and
then
you
also
have
some
businesses
that
have
actually
created
a
third
bed,
a
third
bathroom
called
family
or
other,
so
that
would
that
would
name.
That's
usually
one
one
bath,
one
single
toilet
at
a
time
it
wouldn't
be
affected
by
this.
B
Okay,
representative
chisholm.
C
K
Other
bill
originated
from
actually
a
constituent
at
a
fundraiser,
a
charitable
fundraiser
come
up
to
me
three
years
ago
and
suggested
it
and
with
all
the
recent
executive
orders
and
things
coming
out
of
washington,
I
felt
that
it
was
my
responsibilities
that
our
responsibility
here
as
we're
always
hesitant
to
pass
any
new
regulation
or
requirement,
except
to
protect
people's
rights,
and
I'm
not
prepared
to
sit
by
and
wait
for
a
woman
to
be
scared
to
death
or
raped
in
a
bathroom.
K
B
L
Representative
rudd,
could
we
not
just
put
instead
of
putting
language
at
a
door?
Could
we
not
just
put
the
picture
of
the
girl
in
the
skirt
and
the
boy
in
the
pants
and
and
let
that
be,
you
know
it's
kind
of
like.
If
you
walk
into
starbucks,
you
know
it
could
be
either
person
in
your
bathroom.
K
L
K
Well,
those
signs
are
very
vague
and
there's
some
of
them.
You
can't
hardly
tell
what
they
are,
there's
no
standard
of
of
what
they're
described
as
as
you
enter
a
restaurant
restaurant,
whatever
you
have
to
look
at
them
twice.
If
the
letters
aren't
up
there,
this
just
puts
a
sign
up
so
at
least
a
small
sign
so
that
at
least
they
are
made
aware
of
something
to
read.
That's
a
symbol.
They
may
not
understand
the
symbol,
but
if
it's
a
minimum
notice
there
and
that's
all
it
draws
attention
to
that
fact.
L
L
I
mean,
as
I
mean,
although
I
have
walked
into
bathrooms,
with
a
man
on
the
front
of
it
and
walked
right
in
by
accident,
not
paying
attention,
but
that's
just
because
I'm
blonde
but
anyway,
but
I
just
wanted
to
know,
wouldn't
a
picture
be
visible
and
then
there
wouldn't
be
any
any
confusion
as
to
what
it's
about
we
put
a
picture
of
family
and
other
like
they
do
in
a
lot
of
restrooms,
like
you
mentioned
earlier,
or
you
or
you
just
put
a
picture
of
a
boy
or
a
girl
up
there
on
both
and
you
take
chances.
K
Again,
it
gets
back
to
the
symbols,
aren't
always
understood
by
adults.
I
think
children
would
have
an
even
harder
time
understand
a
symbol,
that's
vague
and
and
a
lot
of
the
ones
that
have
symbols,
don't
put
the
words
women
or
men
on
the
sign.
They
just
have
a
symbol.
Not
everybody
may
understand
the
symbol,
at
least
the
notice.
They
know.
If
you
put
a
notice
up
there,
they're
going
to
at
least
give
them
a
it's
a
better
security,
a
better
warning
that
at
least
they
know
to
read
the
sign.
I
As
this
discussion
has
gone
on,
further
I've
become
more
and
more
confused
and
I'm
just
thinking
if,
if
I
go
back
to
my
own
business
and
and
was
to
try
to
explain
how
this
would
be
enacted
or
what
was
to
be
done
under
this
piece
of
legislation,
I
I'm
so
lost
and
I'm
have,
you
know
been
able
to
listen
to
this
discussion.
I
I
just
feel
like
this
is
a
very
burdensome
to
tennessee
businesses
and-
and
I
and
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
the
fact
that
we
need
to
protect
women
in
the
state
and
take
that
issue
very
seriously.
I
But
I
didn't
hear
you
point
to
a
specific
situation
where
this
has
created
a
problem
in
the
example
that
you
gave
so
I
I
guess
you
know
this.
This
just
seems
like
overly
burdensome
for
for
businesses
and
is
is
not
really
addressing
any
sort
of
instance
or
situation.
That's
been
a
problem
chairman
rudd.
K
Well,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
worked
with
the
this
amendment
was
brought
about
by
these
business
advocates
and
they're
pleased
with
it
and
deferred
once
these
amendments
were
put
on
place
and
it's
and
that's,
it's
turned
into
a
better
bill.
It's
a
much
simplified
bill
and
I
don't.
I
don't
personally
see
anything
confusing
about
it.
It's
it's
very
direct.
It's
very
short:
it's
very
mental
minimally
involved
and
it's
like
I
said,
I'm
I'm
very
concerned,
and
I
want
to
give
women
and
men,
but
especially
women,
every
protection
I
can.
I
Yeah
and-
and
I
I
thought
you
said
that
the
bill
was
was
brought
to
you
by
constituent
that
so
I
mean
I
don't
I've
not
heard
of
a
big
outcry
from
the
business
community
demanding
this
piece
of
legislation.
In
fact,
you
referenced
a
national
company
that
already
has
a
policy,
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
bill
in
some
way
would
would
you
know
that
do
interfere
with
whatever
they're
doing
is
their
policy
of
their
business?
I
I
think
you
said
there
were
two
national
companies
that
already
have
some
sort
of
policy,
so
I
don't
know
if
this
has
targeted
them
or
what
I'm
just
so
confused.
My
my
you
know
anything
that
seems
overly
burdensome
to
business,
especially
in
this
environment
and
this
the
year
that
so
many
of
our
businesses
have
gone
through.
I
just
think
is
unnecessary.
B
Okay,
members,
I
must
remind
you,
take
a
look
at
on
the
wall
and
your
watches.
It
is
eight
minutes
we
we
want
to
do
a
wrap.
Please
let
me
caution:
let's,
let's,
let's
get
this
one
wrapped
up
chairman
husley,
you're
recognizer
thank.
D
You,
and
I
understand
the
bill,
makes
sense
to
me
a
lot
of
businesses
now
don't
care
anymore.
This
actually
happened
to
a
family
member
of
mine
at
the
truck
stop
and
I
complained
about
it
and
the
truck
the
guy
working
at
truck.
Stop
said
it
doesn't
matter
to
us,
doesn't
matter
what
bathroom
anybody
uses
we
don't
care,
so
it
is
becoming
a
policy
in
some
places
where
it
doesn't
matter
to
them.
So
I
don't
see
any
problems.
Your
bill.
K
Thank
you,
chairman
halsey,
also
to
regard
the
other
one
of
the
two
national
companies.
As
far
as
I
know
it,
wouldn't
even
it
wouldn't
even
affect
in
tennessee,
because
walgreens
only
has
single
stalls,
so
they
wouldn't
have
put
a
sign
up.
One
person
enters
at
a
time,
so
it
wouldn't
even
affect
them.
B
Chairman
helsley
follow
up
okay,
chairman
chair
lady
littleton
you're
recognized
thank.
L
B
B
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
I
okay,
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
Cheerleading.
L
L
So
that's
to
clarify
kind
of
where
the
confusion
is
it's
not
the
bathrooms,
where
you
open
one
door
and
go
in
and
you're
in
there
secluded
these
it's
a
hallway.
The
bathrooms
are
on
one
side,
the
sink's
on
the
other
and
men
and
women,
children,
boys
and
girls
are
all
coming
and
going
at
the
same
time.
K
As
far
as
I
can
determine
what
you're
saying
yes,
this
would
only
be
where
there's
multiple
stalls
in
one
room-
this
wouldn't
be
for
single
entry
and
singer
single
at
one
at
a
time
that
this
bill
doesn't
cover
that,
like
I
said
this
is
a
very
minimal
bill.
B
B
In
my
apology
that
I
have
just
been
informed
moments
ago,
there
is
no
testimony.
Oh.
G
G
B
Got
a
motion
and
a
second
to
send
to
some
summer
study,
and
that
is
the
proper
motion
in
a
second.
So
with
that,
I
the
chair's
going
to
call
for
a
roll
call,
though
let's
do
a
roll
call
vote.
C
K
C
C
C
C
L
L
A
B
Voting.
Okay,
there
you
have
it
motion
motion,
has
failed
we're
back
we're
back
on
the
bill
as
amended.
We're
going
to
have
got
a
call
for
the
question.
We
do
have
a
call
for
the
question.
I
see
no
objection.
We
are
headed
for
a
vote.
Those
in
favor
of
house
bill
as
amended
1182
moving
on
to
calendar
and
rules.
Please
say:
aye
aye.
Those
of
foes
like
sign
chair,
calls
for
a
roll
call
vote
clerk.
G
C
B
B
Okay,
the
the
chair
declares
this
passed.
It
moves
on
to
count
house
bill
as
amended.
1182
moves
on
to
calvin
rules
chairman
all
right.
Now
we
we
have,
we
do
have
those
remaining
those
bills
that
do
remain
on
the
calendar
will
be
rolled
until
to
next
week's
calendar.
I
need
a
motion
to
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.
I
got
a
second.
We
stand
adjourned.