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Description
House Floor Session- 21st. Legislative Day- April 8, 2021
A
Mr
sergeant
of
arms
invite
the
members
into
the
chamber
and
close
the
doors
out
here
by
declared
house
representatives
of
the
112th
general
assembly
at
state
of
tennessee
now
in
session,
where
the
members
please
stand
with
the
visitors
in
the
gallery.
Please
stand
and
remain
standing
through
the
pledge
of
allegiance
representative
haston
will
serve
as
chaplain
of
the
day.
Representative
haston.
You
are
recognized.
A
B
You,
mr
speaker,
820
days
ago,
was
my
first
day
on
the
house
floor
on
that
first
day
here
my
granddad
hoyt
kirk
served
as
chaplain
of
the
day
he
had
a
health
scare
last
week
and
was
in
the
hospital
for
three
days,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
fine
folks,
his
nurses
and
doctors
at
vanderbilt
medical
center
that
took
really
good
care
of
him
and
got
him
home
this
past
weekend.
I
just
want
to
thank
him.
B
If
he's
watching
at
home,
for
being
my
coach,
my
preacher,
my
best
friend
for
the
last
40
years,
would
you
pray
with
me
our
father
taught
in
heaven?
We
thank
you
for
this
day
and
the
many
blessings
of
it.
We
have
much
to
be
thankful
for
father.
We
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
We
have
to
serve
the
people
of
this
great
state.
B
B
A
A
D
B
E
B
B
F
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
just
wanted
to
give
special
honor
to
jennifer
thompson,
who
has
somehow
put
up
with
this
representative
for
42
years
as
of
yesterday.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
I'd
like
to
welcome
to
the
gallery
today
and
the
young
man
is
going
to
be
shadowing
me
as
edward
burch
he's
the
director
of
business
development
for
ecd
welcome
edward
good
to
have
you
here.
B
B
G
I
To
our
right
that
are
from
benice
tennessee
greg.
L
L
K
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
just
want
everyone
to
draw
their
attention
in
the
back.
My
predecessor
and
everyone's
friend
representative,
jim
coley,
is
here
today
and
if
everyone
can
just
make
sure
to
wish
him
and
say
hello
to
him,
and
we
get
a
round
of
applause
for.
A
H
D
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Members.
I've
got
a
heavy
heart
today
and
with
your
indulgence,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
about
a
good
friend
who
actually
served
in
this
chamber,
judge
kenneth
porter.
He
served
in
the
80th
81st
82nd
general
assembly
in
the
house.
Then
he
came
back
in
the
88th
general
assembly
and
served
in
the
senate,
but
I
brought
him
on
the
house
four
six
seven
years
ago
and
on
the
way
in
he
told
me
a
story
that
you
are
going
to
love.
D
He
was
the
very
first
republican
in
the
general
assembly
to
actually
have
a
phone
up.
Until
he
came,
no
republican
ever
been
allowed
to
have
a
phone.
He
was
also
the
first
republican
to
have
an
office
up
until
that
point
the
democrats
had
a
strong
control
and
they
had
no
republican
and
ever
been
allowed
to
have
an
officer
a
phone.
He
had
to
share
an
assistant
with
some
other
democrats,
but
it
was.
It
was
like
this
great
big
deal
and
he
was
kind
of.
D
He
was
like
a
political
daddy
to
me
and
I
called
him,
my
political,
daddy
and
just
briefly
I'll
tell
you
when
I
decided
to
run
for
the
state
house,
I
wouldn't
see
him
he'd
become
a
circuit
court
judge.
President
reagan
nominated
him
for
a
federal
judgeship,
and
so
I
said
on
his
porch
in
2009
and
most
people
said:
jeremy
there's
no
way
you
can
win
this.
You
have
no
chance
at
this
and
I
went
to
tell
him
what
people
were
saying
and-
and
I
kind
of
told
him
my
story.
D
What
I
was
thinking
I
wanted
to
do,
and
he
looked
at
me
said:
jeremy,
I
think
you
just
have.
You
might
just
have
what
it
takes
to
win
the
next
year.
We
were
allowed
to
win
and
we've
been
here
for
11
years,
but
I
want
y'all.
If
you
don't
mind,
would
you
just
rise
with
me?
His
sweet
wife
is
janet
porter
she's
at
home
and
they're
fixing
to
have
his
funeral
and
guys.
This
is.
D
He
had
incredible
relationships
down
here
for
years
and
it's
men
and
women
like
him
that
gave
us
this
second
generation
from
them
the
state
that
we
have
a
lot
of
times.
I
find
ourselves
bragging
on
how
amazing
tennessee
is,
and
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
I
think
of
people
like
judge
porter,
who
worked
across
the
aisle
who
did
everything
what
they
could
for
their
children
and
grandchildren,
and
we
are
reaping
the
benefits
of
their
leadership.
D
M
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
sunday
april,
the
11th
is
a
very
special
day
for
this
body,
for
the
state
of
tennessee
and
for
williamson
county.
Just
so
happens
that
one
among
us
will
have
a
birthday
on
sunday
april,
the
11th,
and
that
is
chairman
whitson.
I've.
H
A
H
A
H
C
I
A
A
A
C
House
joint
resolution,
eight
by
chairman,
todd
a
resolution
to
make
application
to
congress
of
the
united
states
pursuant
to
article
5
of
the
united
states
constitution,
to
call
the
joint
convention
proposing
amendments
to
set
limits
on
the
number
of
terms
to
which
a
person
may
be
elected.
As
a
member
of
the
united
states
house
of
representatives
and
to
set
a
limit
on
the
number
of
terms
to
which
a
person
may
be
elected.
As
a
member
of
the
united
states
senate.
J
Our
founders
put
this
in
the
constitution.
It
has
never
been
used
to
this
date,
because
congress
has
always
appointed
these
amendments
to
the
states
to
ratify.
But,
as
you
well
know,
congress
is
not
going
to
limit
themselves.
They
have
proven
this
over
and
over.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
president
eisenhower
even
was
quoted
after
congress
passed
and
states
ratified
the
term
limits
on
the
office
of
president
in
1954
that
an
amendment
for
congressional
term
limits
could
never
achieve
the
blessing
of
congress.
J
It
could
be
initiated
only
by
the
states,
and
that
is,
as
you
well
know,
the
truth.
So
it
is,
I
think,
beholden
on
us
to
do
that,
and
this
mechanism
was
laid
out
by
our
founders
and
supported
by
our
founders,
to
give
states
that
option
to
petition
congress
to
set
a
time
in
place,
and
then
we
send
delegates
that
would
then
vote
on
whatever
issue.
We
asked
them
to
exactly
how
we
asked
them
to
this
body,
the
general
assembly.
We
control
those
delegates
and
they
must
do
what
we
tell
them
to.
J
Otherwise
it's
a
felony
and
we
can
call
them
back
and
appoint
new
delegates.
But
the
main
thing
about
this
is
that
some
of
the
concerns
have
been
expressed
as
if
this
could
go
off
the
rails
and
rules
could
be
changed.
The
constitution
could
be
changed
without
us
ratifying
it.
That
is,
it
could
be
no
further
from
the
truth.
The
rules
are
laid
out
how
to
ratify
the
constitution
and
we
all
have
been
bound
to
uphold
the
constitution.
This
is
one
tool
within
it
that
states
can
control
congress
in
this
situation.
A
N
Thank
you
speaker
and
thank
you,
mr
sponsor.
I
have
the
highest
respect
for
you
but
members.
I
stand
I
rise
in
in
opposition
of
this.
I
have
stood
before
previous
sessions
when
this
kind
of
legislation
came
before
the
body.
I
believe
it's
dangerous.
We
have
not
had
a
convention
since
1908
I
mean.
Excuse
me
1787
1787,
and
why
do
you
think
that
is?
N
Why
do
you
think
that
some
of
the
people
that
I
respect
like
the
late
former
justice
scalia
is
quoted
as
saying
whoa
whoa?
We
don't
want
a
convention
can
happen
when
we
open
that
up
and
that's
my
question,
I'm
asking
you
I
mean
we
don't
have
control
over
those
delegates.
N
We
don't
have
the
the
control
over
those
delegates
and
in
this
climate,
in
this
political
climate,
we're
going
to
risk
opening
up
our
constitution
for
it
to
be
a
trojan
horse
to
go
in
there
and
totally
give
us
something
new
for
60
years.
Globalists
have
wanted
to
come
for
our
constitution,
and
may
I
just
suggest
this:
our
constitution
is
the
only
thing
that
protects
us
as
citizens.
N
N
N
N
First
thing
that
comes
to
mind:
is
you
have
a
lazy
voting
populace
people
know
that
oh
they're
gonna
be
in
there
two
years
and
they're
gonna
be
right
out,
so
the
elected
member
could
go
up
there
and
do
nothing
but
damage
for
two
years
and
not
be
accountable
for
any
of
that,
plus
even
the
voting
citizen
will
say:
oh
she's
only
going
to
be
up
there
two
years,
so
what
the
heck
we'll
put
somebody
else
in
there
the
next
time.
I
want
you
to
seriously
think
about
what
you're
about
to
do.
This
is
dangerous.
N
They've
been
trying
to
do
this
for
60
years
and
we
don't
have
a
problem
with
our
constitution,
not
one
problem.
What
we
do
have
is
people
who
don't
listen
to
it
or
abide
by
it.
Thank
you
members.
Please
consider
doing.
I
stand
in
opposition
oven
of
this
and
I
have
a
high
regard
for
the
sponsor.
N
But
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
thank
you.
Members.
J
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
guess
a
couple
of
things.
There
was
a
lot
there
that
that
I
have
to
work
with,
and
I
appreciate
my
colleague
from
smith,
county
and
and
her
passion
for
this
we've
we've
been
carrying
on
about
this
for
the
last
few
weeks
and-
and
I
appreciate
her
comments-
I
I
will
point
you
to
a
2014
law
that
this
general
assembly
passed.
That
was
the
faithful
delegate
law,
so
it
it
literally
binds
our
delegates.
J
J
O
Thank
you,
mr
speakers
and
members
and
representative.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
legislation.
I
have
the
utmost
respect
for
you.
I
too,
when
I
was
initially
approached
to
support
the
convention
of
states.
It
sounded
like
a
good
idea
for
term
limits.
O
However,
I
submit
to
you,
I
joined
the
comments
of
my
colleague
that
this
is
a
trojan
horse.
This
is
a
classic
bait
and
switch.
This
is
a
well-financed
campaign
by
those
that
want
to
get
their
hands
on
our
constitution
and
their
dangling
term
limits
out
there
for
us
to
bite
on
with
all
due
respect,
I
disagree
with
my
the
representative
sponsor
of
the
bill
that
we
can
control
the
delegates.
O
Well,
what
the
delegates
did
is
they
said
you
know
what
let's
just
start
all
over
we're
going
to
do
a
great,
a
whole
new
constitution
and
it
turned
out
great
for
us,
but
in
this
political
climate,
are
you
going
to
put
your
faith
in
the
people
that
are
running
the
country
in
dc
right
now
to
come
up
with
simply
address
term
limits?
I'm
sorry!
I
don't
have
that
faith
and
trust
in
our
political
body
of
america
these
days,
and
I
would
urge
you
all
to
vote
against
this
dangerous
proposal.
Thank
you.
J
J
J
According
to
james
madison,
they
were
to
frame
a
national
government
adequate
to
the
exigencies
of
government
and
of
the
nation
and
to
reduce
the
articles
of
confederation
into
such
form
as
to
accomplish
these
purposes,
they
went
with
the
express
purpose
of
creating
a
constitution
out
of
what
we
had.
They
did
not
run
away.
That
was
their
charge
by
the
states.
The
states
had
control
of
that
completely.
They
directed
that.
J
J
If
all
95
counties
got
together
next
week
in
a
convention
or
whatever
they
want
to
call
it
and
they
decide
they
don't
like
the
speed
limit
on
interstate
40
that
you-
and
I
many
of
us
here,
travel
every
week
and
they
decide
that
60
miles
an
hour
is
a
better
speed
limit
and
they
decide
among
themselves
by
two-thirds
majority
or
three-fourths
majority.
Let's
say
72
counties
vote
in
the
affirmative
to
change
the
interstate
40
speed
limit
to
60
miles
an
hour
effective
immediately.
J
Does
any
of
you
do
any
of
you
think
that
next
week,
that
state
troopers
will
start
writing
tickets
for
anything
over
60?
They
will
not
because
nothing
changed,
even
though
those
delegates
from
those
counties
thought
they
changed.
State
law,
our
constitution
says
only.
We
change
that
law.
That's
no
different
than
what
our
federal
constitution
says
about
how
to
amend
the
constitution.
J
It
takes
38
states
to
ratify
anything
that
comes
out
of
this
meeting,
an
article
5
convention
that
any
any
substance
from
that
has
to
be
ratified
by
38
states.
We
will
get
a
bite
at
that
apple.
We
will
get
a
chance,
as
we
did
in
the
early
part
of
the
last
century,
to
ratify
the
amendment
given
women,
the
right
to
vote
that
came
to
the
states.
Tennessee
was
the
final
nail
in
that
coffin.
We
we
established
that
once
and
for
all,
so
I
would
submit
to
you
that
we
have
the
final
say
in
this.
J
M
M
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
for
us
to
do
this,
because
the
people
who
are
in
washington
and
the
people
who
are
in
nashville
and
wherever
they
are,
however
long
they've
been
serving
they've,
been
serving
because
it
was
the
will
of
the
people
that
elected
them
to
come
back,
whether
they
were
right
or
wrong,
and
sometimes
who
I
think
is
wrong-
might
be
right
for
somebody
else.
So
I
think
we
take
the
will
of
the
people
away
when
we
put
term
limits
on
people
under
those
conditions.
M
J
Yes,
mr
speaker,
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
appreciate
my
my
colleagues
comments.
I
certainly
do
and
I
I
certainly
take
those
to
heart.
I've
wrestled
with
the
same
issue.
You
know
where
am
I
on
this
based
on
the
will
of
the
voters,
but
I
submit
to
you
that
we
didn't
have
a
restriction
on
the
president's
office
until
1954..
J
Our
founders
never
dreamed
that
anyone
would
go
to
congress
or
be
president
for
a
lifetime,
but
that's
what
we
have
now.
That's
the
reality
when
you're
in
that
position,
the
the
finances
you
garner
in
your
campaign
account
literally
prevents
others
from
ever
having
a
chance
at
that
seat.
As
long
as
you
can
master
that
kind
of
money,
that's
what
we
say
day
to
day.
That
is
the
real
world
that
we
have.
Many
of
you
know
on
a
state
level.
J
Some
of
my
colleagues
here
have
beat
entrenched
incumbents,
that
were
chairmen
of
big
committees
that
had
plenty
of
money
and
beat
them
with
less
than
twenty
thousand
dollars.
So
the
state
level
is
totally
this
a
different
game.
As
you
all
know,
you
see
it
every
every
two
years
we
see
that
turnover,
but
on
a
congressional
level,
it's
a
different
world.
J
I've
had
it
said
to
me
that
the
safest
job
in
america
is
a
u.s
senator
once
you
get
it,
you
keep
it
for
as
long
as
you
want,
because
that
that
power
is
so
entrenched
there
and
again
I
I
point
you
back
to
the
article
to
the
amendment.
Rather
the
22nd
amendment
that
puts
term
limits
on
the
u.s
presidency.
There
was
a
reason
for
doing
that.
We
have
a
reason
now
with
what
we
see
day
to
day
and
year
to
year,
decade
after
decade
in
congress.
So,
mr
speaker,
I
renew
my
motion.
I
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Members
actually
rise
in
support
of
this
legislation.
So
many
times
we
we
stand
in
this
body
and
we
quote
the
constitution.
We
reference
the
constitution
and,
and
every
word
of
the
constitution
is
poor,
is
important.
So
I
don't
understand
why.
If
we
call
ourselves
constitutionalist,
this
particular
aspect
of
the
constitution
doesn't
apply
because
the
words
are
very
clear
and
the
founders
gave
us
a
recourse
as
states
on
the
federal
government
to
check
the
power
of
the
federal
government.
I
So
if
you
say
you're
a
constitutionalist,
but
every
aspect
of
the
constitution
applies,
but
this
particular
section
of
article
five,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
core,
how
those
two
correlate
so
speaker
so
chairman,
thank
you
for
bringing
this.
I
fully
support
it
because
I
support
the
constitution.
I
support
the
words
of
the
constitution
and,
as
alexander
hamilton
said
and
wrote
in
federalist
85,
we
as
the
state
legislatures
have
been
given
the
power
to
erect
barriers
against
the
encroachment
of
the
federal
government
and
that's
exactly
what
this
does.
So.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it.
J
Chairman
todd,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
that
comment.
I
really
appreciate
that,
and-
and
it
does
point
to
a
a
a
fact
that
I
think
a
lot
of
us
would
appreciate
our
founders
were
states
rights
activists.
They
wrote
the
constitution
to
give
states
the
power,
not
the
federal
government,
subsequent
to
passage
of
the
constitution.
J
They
fought
tooth
and
nail
to
keep
the
power
with
the
states.
We
have
somehow
over
many
decades
left
that
end
up
in
the
hands
of
the
federal
government.
We
it's
it.
This
is
one
article
within
that
constitution
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
test
some
of
that
back.
I
just
submit
to
you
that
this
is
one
of
our
responsibilities
to
adhere
to,
and
I
appreciate
your
support
of
this.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
P
Thank
you
and
sponsor
I've.
I
spoke
about
this
in
committee
and
you
know
I'm
opposed
to
really
all
article
fives
and
because
of
this,
the
faithful
delegate,
the
faithful
delegate
law
we
passed
here.
Yes,
there's
punishments.
Yes,
you
have
to
do
what
state
law
says,
but
there
is
nothing
that
prevents
there's
nothing
that
prevents
a
delegate
from
going
down
to
wherever
this
convention
is
held,
to
go
to
federal
court
and
say
to
a
judge,
I
believe
tennessee's
law
is
unconstitutional
and
when
they
do
say
that
the
judge
says
you're
right.
P
I
don't
see
at
that
point.
Tennessee
can't
punish
the
delegate
because
it's
been
ruled
unconstitutional,
so
article
3
is
just
important
as
article
5,
and
for
that
reason
I
don't.
I
don't
support
any
article
5
legislation.
So
thank
you
sponsor,
and
I
appreciate
I
have
respect
for
you,
but
I
can't
hope
for
the
bill.
J
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
I
appreciate
those
comments.
I
I
think
that
issue
by
itself
to
me
doesn't
change
a
vote.
We
still
have
to
ratify.
Whatever
comes
out
of
that
convention,
I
believe
the
states,
I
don't
believe,
there's
anything
unconstitutional
with
us
directing
our
delegates
and
holding
them
accountable.
That
would
be
debated
in
court.
J
I
I
can
understand
that
I
believe
we
would
win
that
argument,
but
either
way
anything
that
comes
out
of
that
convention
comes
back
right
here
to
this
general
assembly
to
approve,
if
we
don't
ratify
it,
it
doesn't
become
part
of
the
constitution,
nothing
changes,
but
it
is
a
shot
across
the
ballot
congress
that
we're
serious
about
this.
That's
another
factor
that
we
need
to
look
at.
What
we
do
today
tells
congress.
We
want
to
hold
you
responsible,
so
I
just
admonish
you
to
to
really
consider
that
heavily.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
representative.
I
applaud
your
hard
work
on
this
bill.
It's
it's
not
the
the
constitutional
convention
that
concerns
me.
It's
the
meat
of
the
matter,
which
is
term
limits,
as
as
we
think
of
our
of
our
activities
here.
It's
our
knowledge
that
we're
represented
by
the
people
that
keeps
the
bureaucracy
from
running
state
government.
Q
In
my
opinion,
currently
federal
government
has
ran
too
much
by
the
bureaucracy,
and
so,
if
you
take
out
the
experience
all
of
a
sudden
bureaucrats,
unelected
individuals
will
be
running
federal
government.
That
concerns
me
greatly,
and
so
I'm
voting
no,
because
I
like
to
depend
upon
my
chairman's
upon
you
and
the
knowledge
that
everyone
in
this
room
has
and
the
authority
that's
been
given
to
you
by
the
electorate
to
stop
those
that
are
unelectable
unaccountable.
So
thank
you
for
your
hard
work.
It's
not
that
I
oppose
again
the
constitutional
convention.
Q
J
Todd.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
would
I
would
point
out-
and
I
appreciate
my
my
colleagues
comments
on
that
and
that's
that's
debatable
whether
you
feel
like
an
entrenched
group
of
folks
that
have
been
there
for
many
many
years
being
re-elected
year
after
year,
because
they
have
tremendous
bank
accounts
are
actually
accountable
to
the
people
and
are
actually
watching
the
bureaucracy
I
would
submit.
They
are
part
of
the
bureaucracy
they
become
part
of
the
bureaucracy,
that's
the
way
the
system
has
become,
and
we
need
to
put
a
stop
to
that.
J
I
will
mention
polling
across
this
great
state
of
your
constituents
and
you've
been
getting
the
emails
and
phone
calls
just
like.
I
have
averaged
78
and
that's
across
both
party
all
party
lines.
This
is
term
limits
on
u.s
congress
is
a
a.
It
holds
very,
very
high
in
this
state.
Any
way
you
want
to
ask
the
question:
it
polls
very
high,
so
our
constituents
are
demanding
this.
This
is
the
number
one
thing
when
I
go
home
on
the
weekend
that
I
get
talked
about.
J
People
stop
me
at
church.
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
on
term
limits.
We've
got
to
put
some
controls
on
congress
constantly
get
that
the
only
negatives
I
get
are
from
the
national
organizations
that
are
pushing
against
this,
because
they
are
probably
recipients
of
some
of
that
power.
That's
entrenched!
Thank
you,
mr.
G
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
to
my
to
my
good
friend
and
colleague
from
west
tennessee.
I
very
rarely
speak
up
on
bills
that
I'm
not
moving
an
amendment
from
judiciary
or
from
criminal,
and
I
also
very
rarely
vote
no
on
the
house
floor.
So
I
just
wanted
out
of
respect
for
you
just
let
you
know
kind
of
where
my
heart
was.
G
I
also
get
talked
to
about
term
limits
quite
a
bit
when
I
go
back
home,
but
but
I
engage
in
the
conversation
and
and
once
once
we
get
into
the
the
layers
a
little
bit.
I
actually
find
that
people
they're
not
real
clear
on
what
term
limits
would
really
mean
for
them,
and
so
what
I
want
to
remind
folks
is
that
our
founders
wanted
the
rights
of
minorities
and
of
rural
communities
to
be
just
as
important
as
well-heeled
folks
from
big
cities
like
new
york
and
san
francisco.
G
We
put
in
term
limits
and
the
folks
that
are
going
to
run
the
committees
and
going
to
have
all
the
power
are
the
people
from
the
wealthy
communities.
That's
just
how
it's
going
to
go,
and
so,
if
we
want
a
country,
that's
run
by
new
york
and
san
francisco,
then
term
limits
are
your
are
your
plan.
I
mean
that
is
my
fear
right.
So
I've
talked
to
many
other
of
our
colleagues
from
other
states
where
they
have
term
limits,
and
I
had
one
one
person
tell
me
they
said
yeah
because
of
term
limits.
G
As
soon
as
I
got
elected,
I
had
15
lobbyists
in
my
office
telling
me
how
I
was
going
to
run
my
committee
and,
to
be
honest,
I
didn't
know
how
to
run
my
committee,
so
I
needed
as
much
advice
as
I
could
get
and
then
one
of
them
said
yeah
and
the
day
I
was
elected
speaker.
Of
course
I
can
only
serve
two
terms
and
I
was
it
was
just
my
turn
to
be
speaker.
G
I
had
to
turn
to
the
bureaucracy
to
tell
me
how
to
be
a
speaker,
how
to
run
how
to
run
my
office,
and
so
I
realize
this
is
a
very
popular
notion.
I
know
your
heart
is
absolutely
in
the
right
place
and
I
too
was
tempted.
I
I
have.
I
have
talked
about
you
know
the
the
magic
of
term
limits
before
before.
I
really
thought
about
it,
but
if
we
want
new
york
and
san
francisco
telling
flyover
country
what
to
do,
then
let's
have
term
limits.
G
But
if
we
want
the
rights
of
rural
america
of
rural
tennessee
to
be
represented,
then
then
I
think
we
ought
to
think
long
and
hard
before
we
do
something
like
this.
So
that's
why,
out
of
all
due
respect,
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
why
I
will
be
voting
no
this
morning.
It's
it's
not
because
I
like
the
idea
of
folks
being
entrenched
or
being
able
to
stick
around
for
a
long
time,
but
if
we
want
new
york
and
san
francisco
telling
us
what
to
do,
then,
then
then
this
is
this.
M
M
Our
founding
fathers
didn't
intend
for
folks
to
go
to
congress
in
the
senate,
maybe
worth
a
hundred
thousand
come
out
worth
millions
of
dollars
serving
30
and
40
and
50
years.
I
encourage
you
to
vote
for
this,
and
thank
you
thank
you
sponsor
for
for
bringing
this.
Maybe
this
is
a
small
tool
in
the
toolbox
to
get
this
country
back
to
basics,
we're
28
trillion
in
debt,
1.8
trillion
in
student
debt.
What's
being
done
about
it,
I
don't
see
anything
we're
leaving
our
the
next
generation
in
debt
bankrupt.
So
thank
you,
sir.
A
B
A
F
F
F
The
law
enforcement
officer
must
be
authorized
to
make
arrests
as
a
full-time
employee
of
a
tennessee
county,
municipality
or
metropolitan
form
of
government
for
felony
arrests
outside
an
officer's
jurisdiction.
The
officer
must
witness
and
reasonably
believe
that
a
person
committed
a
felony
or
is
committing
a
felony
for
misdemeanors
that
amount
to
a
breach
of
peace.
The
officer
making
an
arrest
outside
their
jurisdiction
must
witness
that
a
person
is
in
the
process
of
committing
such
an
act.
F
A
A
A
R
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
This
bill
amends
the
charter
of
the
town
of
white
bluff.
With
that
I
renew
my
motion.
Cheerlead.
A
A
R
A
R
You,
mr
speaker,
it
is
my
honor
today
to
carry
house
bill
200
on
behalf
of
chairman
mike
carter.
Let's
continue
to
remember
him
and
our
prayers.
As
many
of
you
know.
For
the
past
several
years,
chairman
carter
has
worked
diligently
with
the
tba
adoption
law
section
to
revise
and
modernize
our
adoption
statutes.
His
mission
has
been
to
make
tennessee
number
one
in
adoption
and
lead
the
nation
in
matching
children
with
loving
families
house
bill
200
continues
this
mission
by
addressing
termination
of
parental
rights
cases
under
current
law.
R
This
bill
will
clarify
that
a
court
is
making
a
best
interest.
Determination
would
be
required
to
consider
every
factor,
nor
would
the
court
be
limited
to
just
the
factors
listed
in
the
legislation.
These
revisions
to
statute
will
allow
a
judge
to
the
discretion
to
apply
only
the
best
interest
factors
that
apply
in
a
particular
case.
This
discretion
will
assist
judges
as
they
make
weighty
decisions
on
whether
to
terminate
parental
rights.
A
D
D
I've
always
enjoyed
hearing
his
take
on
stuff
he's
got
an
incredible
wit
and
it
matters
that
he's
a
part
of
this
body
his
his
efforts.
His
communications
have
been
such
an
integral
part
of
the
last
several
years
in
the
general
assembly,
and
it
would
be
our
will,
sir,
that
he's
healed
and
that
you
give
doctors
wisdom
of
what
to
do
with
him
and
and
how
to
how
to
bring
him
to
full
health.
D
And
if
that
is
not
your
will,
and
your
will
does
not
align
with
ours.
We
pray
that
you
will
bring
comfort
to
his
family
comfort
to
his
wife
and
that
through
this
time
they
will
be
made
more
known
of
your
presence
than
ever
before
and
that
he
will.
He
will
experience
the
breath
of
life
that
you
have
given
to
each
one
of
your
children
and
we
love
you.
We
trust
you,
and
we
know
that
you
can
do
what
no
one
else
can
do
in
the
powerful
name
of
jesus
amen.
I
A
B
B
The
reason
for
it
is,
we
needed
a
way
to
get
multiple
eateries
under
one
main
license,
allowing
the
people
there
to
move
about
the
different
venues
with
their
drinks,
and
it
also
creates
a
process
for
the
abc
to
approve
and
regulate
the
individual
eateries.
This
does
not
remove
the
responsibility
of
any
of
the
the
tenants
there
for
complying
with
any
of
the
liquor
laws,
including
preventing
the
patrons
from
leaving,
and
with
that
I
renew
my
motion.
B
At
that
time,
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
representative.
Freeman,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question
and
I'm
not
sure
I
have
an
adequate
answer
because
they're
under
one
license
but
they're
separate.
I
would
assume
that
it
would
just
affect
that.
One
person.
A
P
B
B
P
K
A
K
Speaker
members,
what
this
legislation
does
is
that
if
you
are
a
plaintiff-
and
you
want
to
sue
the
state
to
challenge
the
state's
constitution,
currently
that
lawsuit
has
to
be
filed
in
davidson
county,
what
this
does
is.
It
allows
a
plaintiff
who
wants
to
challenge
the
state
constitution
to
file
it
in
the
county
which
the
plaintiff
plaintiff
lives.
Another
portion
of
this
bill
also
describes
or
prescribes.
B
K
Come
on,
although
the
center
of
our
government
is
in
is
in
nashville.
Our
government
is
across
this
great
state
of
tennessee
and
does
not
exist
just
in
nashville.
So
that's
why
the
venue
now
will
be
in
sumner
county,
which
is
not
too
too
far
and
from
the
perspective
of
any
cost
to
the
state.
There
is
none.
There's
no
fiscal
note
on
this.
So
sumner
county
is
more
appropriate
to
hear
any
sort
of
out
of
plaintiff
out
of
state
plaintiff
for
the
venue
to
be
in
sumner,
county
representative.
B
Well,
the
last
time
I
checked,
all
the
laws
seemed
to
be
made
here.
We
we
meet
here.
I've
never
met
in
memphis
or
bristol.
I
I
don't
know
it
just
seem.
This
seems,
like
maybe
judge
shopping.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
I'm
gonna
have
to
kindly
vote
against
your
bill.
Thank
you.
S
Is
is
this
a
response
to
any
particular
ruling
by
davidson
county
court?
Is
that
why
we're
after
100
plus
years,
moving
this
to
sumner
county
out
of
the
out
of
the
county
that
holds
the
capital.
K
Representative,
I
think
this
is
in
response
to
in
my
law
practice.
I
had
a
call
from
a
fella
who
had
an
issue
against
the
state
in
west
tennessee
and
when
I
researched
his
avenue
to
have
relief,
his
only
avenue
was
through
nashville.
His
avenue
should
be
through
his
own
county
through
his
own
judge
that
he
elected.
So
he
can
hear
any
grievances
for
relief
that
he
decides
to
pursue.
That
should
be
in
the
county
upon
which
he
lives
and
upon
which
he
was
able
to
elect
his
own
judge
representative.
A
S
Is
there
a
particular
case
you're
talking
about
because,
for
example,
I
know
in
tax
cases,
which
are
one
of
the
set
of
cases
that
are
tried
in
davidson
county,
mostly
because
the
judges
have
deep
expertise
in
the
tax
area
a
person
can
choose,
person
can
choose
to
sue,
as
you
say,
in
their
local
county
person
can
choose
to
sue
in
davidson
county
almost
every,
so
every
large
taxpayer
chooses
to
sue
in
davidson
county
because
they
know
that
the
judges
have
seen
these
issues
have
deep
expertise
and
they
want
that
expertise.
A
S
K
Representative
garrett,
thank
you
for
the
question
for
one,
this
bill
has
nothing
to
do
with
jurisdiction.
Secondly,
it
is
designed
if
a
corporation
is
duly
incorporated
and
their
registered
agents
exist
in
davidson
county.
They
can
certainly
utilize
the
courts
here
in
davidson
county
for
any
matters
that
relates
to
tax
or
otherwise,
taxes
aren't
limited
to
the
expertise
of
davidson
county.
S
S
Well,
respectfully,
you
have
not
and
I'm
hearing
the
record
is
reflecting
that
you
haven't
identified
any
problem
that
this
bill
solves
or
any
rational
basis
for
it.
I
wanted
to
give
you
that
opportunity
on
the
floor.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
rise
in
support
of
this
issue
and
had
this
same
bill
15
years
ago,
and
let
me
talk
about
somebody
besides
the
big
entity,
the
the
multi-million
dollar
billion
dollar
tax
entity
that
we're
talking
about
or
business
we're
talking
about.
Let
me
tell
you
about
the
farmer
back
home,
who
has
an
issue
with
t
deck
and
couldn't
get
his
land
use
issue
taken
care
of.
B
He
was
going
to
have
to
drive
down
here,
take
three
days
away
from
his
farm
just
to
have
this
issue
litigated
because
he
couldn't
get
it
done
back
home.
Don't
give
me
this
home
field
advantage.
This
judge
shopping
issue.
This
is
about
that
farmer
who
has
an
issue
that
he
cannot
get
resolved
and
we're
four
hours
away
from
nashville
where
I
live.
B
H
To
be,
it's
been
brought
up
by
two
of
my
colleagues
now
about
travel.
This
isn't
going
to
impose
any
difficulties
on
our
state
government
to
travel
anywhere
outside
of
nashville.
To
address
this.
This
can
be
handled,
like
my
colleague
just
said,
just
as
easily
at
home.
Is
that
correct
representative.
K
A
M
The
travel
to
sumner
county
that
others
will
have
to
make
why
some
account
out
of
all
the
other
94
counties.
Why
sumner
county
for
this
particular
choice
of
venue.
K
The
question
that
you've
asked
has
already
has
already
been
asked,
was
asked
through
subcommittee
in
the
the
question
should
be:
why
not
that
an
out
of
state
plaintiff
that
has
no
residence
here?
Where
is
that
going
to
be
someone
50
years
ago
decided
it
should
be
davidson
county?
M
Yeah,
thank
you
for
answering
and
unfortunately
I'm
not
on
that
subcommittee.
So
that's
why
I
had
to
ask
the
question
here
because
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
ask
it.
So
your
answer
is
sumner.
County
was
chosen
because
of
the
outside,
and
I
want
to
try
to
repeat:
what's
outside
plaintiff,
not
having
venue
is,
and
I
don't
want
to
restate
it
wrong,
but.
A
A
A
B
A
Bill
1196,
I
received
constitutional
majority.
Hereby
clerk
passed
objection.
The
motion
week
series
tabled
next
bill,
mr
clerk.
C
A
A
F
You,
mr
speaker,
this
is
a
bill.
That's
designed
to
expand
recent
efforts
of
apprenticeship
opportunities
for
high
school
students
does
three
things
one.
F
It
requires
that
each
public,
high
school
designated
teacher
or
principal
or
some
other
employee
serve
as
the
apprenticeship
training
program
contact
for
the
school
to
to
require
the
department
of
education
to
compile
and
publish
to
its
website
of
directory
of
name
and
contact
information
for
the
training
point
program,
contact
for
each
public
school
and
three
to
require
the
department
to
update
the
this
information
by
september,
the
first
of
each
year.
A
A
A
O
A
O
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
members
members.
This
is
a
private
ad
brought
to
me
by
the
benton
county
mayor
and
county
commission.
What
it
would
do
it
would
require
operators
liable
for
the
collection
and
payment
of
county
mineral
severance
tax
to
keep
and
preserve
those
records
necessary
to
determine
the
amount
of
tax
due
and
payable
to
the
county
for
three
years.
It
would
also
allow
the
increase
in
the
severance
tax
from
10
cents
to
15
cents
per
ton,
subject
to
local
approval.
A
B
A
O
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
members.
This
is
subject
to
local
approval.
It's
another
bill.
Private
act
by
the
benton
county,
mayor
lashley
and
the
county
commission
would
require
individuals
that
are
collect,
pulpwood,
severance
tax
to
keep
those
records
for
one
year
and
report.
Those
results
for
an
audit-
and
I
renew
my
motion
representative.
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
T
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
This
pro
bill
provides
necessary
protections
from
the
implementation
for
the
implementation
of
license
plate
reader
technology
by
stipulating
the
data
from
license
plate.
Readers
remains
private.
This
bill
provides
for
the
foundation
for
local
law
enforcement
agencies
to
use
license
plate
reader
systems
where
it
has
already
been
authorized
by
a
local
government.
T
Local
governments
may
want
to
enact
legislation
permits
law
enforcement
agencies
to
use
license
plate
reader
technology,
but
want
to
ensure
that
enabling
this
technology
is
done
in
a
way
that
protects
tennessee's
privacy
and
only
allows
for
the
technology
to
be
used
for
narrowly
tailored
governmental
uses,
the
purpose
for
license
plate.
Readers
include
a
couple
of
examples,
such
as
helping
law
enforcement
personnel
solve
crimes
and
protect
public
safety
by
assisting
in
local,
locating
fugitives
and
at-large
violent
criminals,
and
by
helping
locate
endangered
children
and
vulnerable
missing
elderly
persons
in
response
to
amber
and
silver
alerts.
T
T
T
This
bill
addresses
privacy
concerns,
by
acting
an
exception
to
the
tennessee
public
records
act,
protecting
lpr
data
from
public
disclosure
on
the
act,
while
still
allowing
government
entities
to
access
this
useful
data
for
legitimate
government
purposes,
while
protecting
the
confidentiality
of
private
personnel
information.
With
that
explanation,
mr
speaker,
I
would
renew
my
motion.
A
A
A
P
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
moved
past
his,
I
mean
I
moved
house
bill
339
on
third
and
final
consideration.
I
A
P
P
I'm
happy
to
go
into
further
details,
but
our
new
motion,
speaker.
A
B
A
C
B
A
A
A
B
A
C
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
A
C
A
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
house
bill
7
719,
simply
directs
all
county
government
governing
bodies
to
ensure
that
at
least
one
licensed
ambulance
service
is
available
within
their
county.
This
was
brought
to
me
by
our
state
ems
association.
It
also
designates
the
download
services
to
be
a
designated
as
an
essential
service,
just
like
our
police
and
fire
have
so.
I
might
add
in
in
closing
that
this
has
been
supported
by
the
tennessee
mayor
association
as
well
as
tennessee
county
services.
Association
with
that,
mr
speaker,
I
renew
my
motion
and
we'll
entertain
any
questions.
A
B
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
L
A
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
speaker
and
leader.
I
see
that
this
bill
has
been
amended
several
times.
I've
received
a
lot
of
concern
about
this
legislation,
probably
in
its
original
form,
from
a
lot
of
non-profits.
I
I
Can
you
address
that
you've
probably
received
a
lot
of
the
same
concerns
to
the
extent
your
amendment
addressed
the
concerns
of
those
entities.
H
Leader,
lambert,
yes,
sir
from
davidson
county.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
We've
worked
with
all
interested
parties
on
this
bill.
The
original
premise
of
this
is
years
ago.
This
body
passed
legislation
to
allow
wineries
to
take
advantage
of
online
sales,
and
you
know
wineries
from
out
of
state
to
be
able
to
ship
to
consumers
here,
which
is
what
many
of
those
charities
take
advantage
of.
They're
part
of
wine
clubs
they're
part
of
different.
H
You
know
kind
of
conglomerates
and
larger
wine
companies
that
will
either
donate
or
sell
to
them
items
that
they
could
not
really
get
here
many
times
they
also
work
with
local
wineries
so
that
bill
passed
and
allowed
for
the
online
retail
of
wine.
What
none
of
us
really
envisioned
is
entities
called
fulfillment
houses
that
are
basically
distributors.
I
mean
to
use
kind
of
a
30
000
foot
view
of
it
that
really
take
in
from
many
different
wineries
and
handle
the
distribution
and
delivery
of
those
products.
H
H
If
they're
going
to
act
like
a
distribution
venue,
they're
going
to
have
to
follow
some
of
the
same
rules
and
that
keeps
everything
safe
because
you
know,
while
we
don't
think
about
wine
in
the
same
category,
sometimes
as
hard
liquor
or
beer,
it
is
still
an
intoxicating
beverage,
and
so
we
have
to
have
a
few
more
rules
in
place
than
it
would
be.
If
someone
were
ordering,
you
know
something
on
amazon.
You
know
a
bar
of
soap
or
something
like
that.
So
we've
resolved
those
issues
so
that
wineries
can
continue
to
utilize
those
fulfillment
centers.
H
They
just
have
to
pay
a
fee
and
be
regular
regulated
by
the
abc
like
everyone
else,
and
they
can
still
do
with
the
spirit
of
the
original
bill
that
allowed
for
online
retail
of
wine.
Those
wineries
can
still
do
that
and
direct
ship,
their
products
to
consumers,
which
is
really
what
we
envisioned
originally.
I
Thank
you
for
that
explanation
and
for
trying
to
address
the
concerns
of
a
lot
of
those
entities.
I
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
what
was
the
the
problem
of
not
regulating
these
fulfillment
houses?
What
was
that
specific?
The
original
version
was
trying
to
eliminate
them
and
now
we're
regulating
them.
So
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
Why
were
it?
What
were
they
doing?
That
was
creating
an
issue.
I
guess
lou
lambert.
H
So
when
you're
talking
about
heavily
regulated
industry,
there
are
certain
taxes
that
are
applied
to
those
products
specifically
because
of
the
nature
of
those
products
those
have
to
be
paid
properly.
There
are
simply
lots
of
regulations
that
deal
with
intoxicating
beverages
that
have
to
be
followed
both
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
getting
into
the
wrong
hands
and
alcohol.
H
I
Representative
clemens,
thank
you
speaker
and
so
final
question.
An
issue
you
just
rose
is
so
is:
if
a
non-profit
is
accessing
their
wine
from
a
fulfillment
house
for
the
purposes
of
a
charitable
event,
is
this
going
to
ultimately
increase
the
cost
of
that
wine
to
that
charitable
organization?
That
then,
would
then
be
shared
with
the
consumer
or
or
cut
into
their
non-profit.
Fundraising.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
spont,
the
leader
of
initially.
I
didn't
think
it
was
too
friendly
to
consumers,
but
you've
worked
with
all
the
parties
and
made
it
so
so.
Thank
you
and
I
know
you
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
and
so
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question
that
I
asked
you
earlier
just
for
clarification
and
I'm
coming
at
it
more
from
the
consumer
perspective.
Q
If
I,
as
a
consumer,
want
to
continue
to
go
to
my
favorite
winery,
I
can
go
there
and
buy
my
wine
and
bring
it
home.
Is
that
correct,
literally
amber?
Yes,
sir?
That's
correct
represent
cassidy,
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
if
I,
if
I
go
out
to
sonoma
and
I
run
across
the
one
that
I
like,
I
can
buy
it
there
and
have
it
sent
to
me
at
my
home
address
that
that
doesn't
change.
Is
that
correct,
clear,
lamborgh,
that's
correct!.
I
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
thank
you,
mr
sponsor.
I
I
want
to
publicly
say:
you've
worked
hard,
there's
been
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
water
running
around
out
of
this
bridge,
and-
and
I
do
I
personally
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
working
with
us,
because
we
have
in
our
district,
both
chairman
wendell
and
I
have
a
winery
there.
That's
that's
been
right
in
the
middle
of
this.
You've
worked
with
them
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
H
A
B
A
E
A
G
You're
recognized,
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
members
house,
bill
1064
will
provide
landlords
with
protections
against
claims
of
negligence
in
renting
leasing
or
otherwise
extending
housing
opportunities
to
those
that
are
formerly
incarcerated.
G
But
I
want
to
be
clear
that
the
protections
in
this
bill
will
not
apply
in
situations
where
the
landlord
knows
this
person
was
convicted
of
a
violent
or
sexual
offense
or
if
they
subsequently
commit
a
violent
or
sexual
offense.
So
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
here
is
we
all
talk
about
when
folks
go
and
pay
their
debt
to
society,
and
we
say
we
want
you
to
go
back
into
the
community
and
be
a
good,
normal
upstanding
citizen.
G
What
what
many
of
us
who
are
not
just
as
involved,
don't
realize
is
that,
when
that
criminal
record
follows
you,
it's
very
very
hard
to
get
housing,
so
many
landlords
are
afraid
to
rent
to
folks
who
have
say
a
non-violent
non-sexual
charge
on
their
record
because
they're
afraid
they're
going
to
be
sued
by
the
other
folks
that
live
in
that
building,
saying
well,
you've
endangered
me
somehow,
but
again,
this
is
not
designed
to
help
anybody
with
a
violent
or
a
sexual
charge.
G
It
just
just
to
give
those
landlords
an
extra
level
of
comfort
if
they
do
want
to
extend
that
housing
opportunity.
But
nothing
in
this
bill
would
obligate
them
to
do
so,
and
this
bill
is
supported
by
the
tennessee
apartment
association
as
well.
A
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
man.
I
was
about
to
stand
up
and
give
you
one
of
them
slow,
claps.
You
know
that.
That's
why
you're
you're
an
integral
part
of
steer,
sucker
caucus
man,
because
this
is
good
legislation,
good
legislation
and
and
and
it
speaks
to
our
true
effort
in
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
get
back
to
life.
You
know.
I
really
appreciate
that
man
appreciate
you
bringing
this
bill.
I
had
no
idea,
but
I'm
really
thankful
for
it
and
I'm
signing
on.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
O
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
we'll
sponsor
yield.
O
Members,
this
proposal
gives
me
some
heartache
based
on
my
experience,
the
prosecuting
crimes
defending
defendants
charged
with
drug
offenses,
firearm
offenses.
O
A
G
K
Thank
you
speaker
and
jim
kirschel.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
legislation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing:
this
doesn't
in
any
sense
obligate
the
landlord
any
sense
to
rent,
and
they
still,
they
still
can
make
that
choice
on
their
own
is
that
is
that
something
that
they're,
not
understanding
that
correctly.
Mr
chairman,
thank
you.
Cameron.
G
Yes,
sir,
that's
correct
this.
This
would
just
anybody
who's
inclined
to
extend
a
housing
opportunity.
This
just
gives
them
a
la
a
comfort
level,
basically
to
go
ahead
and
do
that,
but
it
would
not
obligate
anybody
to
do
it.
So
folks,
who
aren't
doing
this
now,
don't
want
to
do
this
now
would
never
have
to
do
this,
but
for
those
folks
who
who
have
responded
to
us
through
our
you
know,
round
tables
and
so
forth
that
we've
talked
about
through
the
criminal
justice
reform
process
have
said.
G
Look
I
would
actually
you
know,
extend
these
opportunities,
I'm
just
afraid
that
I'm
going
to
open
myself
up
to
all
these
ticky-tack
kind
of
simple
negligence
lawsuits
just
saying,
oh
well,
I
don't
want
to
live
in
the
same
proximity
as
this
other
person.
So
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
representative.
A
K
A
A
D
B
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
This
amendment
makes
the
bill.
It
defines
a
proposed
rule
more
strictly
and
allows
a
person
to
file
suit
directly
with
the
chancery
court,
where
they
reside
rather
than
davidson
county
when
a
rule
is
not
adopted
in
compliance
with
the
uapa.
I
defer
to
the
sponsor
for
further
explanation:
move
to
adopt.
A
D
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
The
purpose
of
this
bill
is
to
require
rule-making
agencies
to
use
rule-making
procedures
that
involve
public
hearings
to
the
maximum
extent
possible.
Currently,
there
are
three
ways
for
executive
agencies
to
promulgate
rules.
One
is
emergency
rules
this.
This
does
not
touch
that
way.
The
other
two
are
proposed
rules
and
the
standard
which
we
prefer.
This
bill
is
encouraging.
D
Under
the
emergency
rules,
however,
except
for
correcting
grammar,
spelling
or
non-substantive
issues
with
rules,
the
proposed
rule-making
system
is
not
one
that
should
be
used.
Rather,
it
should
be
one
that
involves
the
public,
because
rules
once
promulgated
have
the
force
of
law.
With
that
explanation,
I
stand
ready
to
answer
questions
and
move
renew.
My
motion.
A
A
A
D
B
A
D
Members,
I
bring
to
you
a
vitally
important
issue
with
this
bill,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
bill
rules
once
promulgated
have
the
force
of
law.
If
you
will
permit
me,
I
will
quote
from
the
tennessee
constitution
article
two
section,
one
into
three
distinct
depart.
The
powers
of
the
government
shall
be
divided
into
three
distinct
departments.
The
legislative
executive
and
judicial
article,
two
section,
two
no
person
or
persons
belonging
to
one
of
these
departments
shall
exercise
any
of
the
powers
properly
belonging
to
either
of
the
others,
except
in
cases
permit
directed
or
permitted.
Herein.
D
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
in
the
general
assembly
authorize
executive
agencies
to
promulgate
rules,
as
I
mentioned
before,
once
those
rules
are
properly
promulgated.
They
have
the
force
of
law,
however,
because
our
constitution
has
vested
in
us
and
us
alone,
the
power
to
create
law.
Those
rules
must
be
brought
before
the
government
operations
committee
for
approval
before
they
can
stand.
However,
the
system
is
set
up.
As
you
heard,
with
the
amendment,
the
government
operations
committee
can
put
a
75-day
stay
on
it
at
that
point.
D
D
Fortunately,
most
of
the
agencies
when
they
are
confronted
with
a
75-day
stay,
take
the
hint
and
they
withdraw
it
and
take
it
back
and
rework
it.
Unfortunately,
there
have
been
some
who
have
not
this
bill
is
an
attempt
to
ensure
that
we
protect
our
constitutional
prerogative
by
simply
taking
that
75
days
and
saying
that
stay
is
in
effect,
until
the
next
time
this
body
meets
and
has
the
opportunity
to
approve
or
disapprove
as
an
entire
body,
whether
or
not
that
should
be
that
rule
should
have
the
force
of
law.
D
A
A
R
Thank
you
miss.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
move
passage
of
senate
bill
429
on
third
and
final
consideration.
A
R
N
A
A
C
A
B
You,
mr
speaker,
this
bill
came
to
me
from
the
office
of
the
comptroller
of
the
treasury
and
makes
government
work
better
by
removing
what
are
obsolete
references
to
the
office
of
local
government
and
those
duties
have
been
absorbed
by
the
division
of
property
assessments
within
the
comptroller's
office.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
renew
my
motion.
A
A
A
K
K
You,
mr
speaker,
what
this
bill
does:
is
it's
a
collaborative
effort
between
metal
recycling,
industry
law
enforcement
to
help
combat
the
problem
of
catalytic
converter
theft.
This
legislation
requires
that
any
person
engaged
in
the
business
of
buying
or
selling
unattached
catalytic
converters
to
notify
their
local
sheriff
or
chief
of
police.
These
people
must
also
be
registered
as
a
scrap
metal
dealer,
with
the
tennessee
department
of
commerce
and
insurance.
K
They
must
have
a
fixed
location
of
business
and
they
must
document
and
collect
the
ideas
ids
of
the
person
selling
a
detached
catalytic
converter,
any
person
possessing
an
unattached
catalytic
converter
without
proper
documentation
is
presumed
to
be
in
the
possession
of
contraband
each
undocumented
catalytic
converter,
possessed
as
punishable
by
a
class
a
misdemeanor
with
a
fine.
Only
and
with
that,
mr
speaker,
I
renew
my
motion.
A
A
B
H
A
A
A
H
A
A
A
C
E
T
Thank
you.
I've
got
some
concerns
with
this.
I
know
the
the
senate
amendment
pretty
had
some
pretty
substantial
changes
to
this
bill,
and
you
know
local
governments
have
been
promoting
contracting
with,
say,
small
veteran
owned
and
minority
owned
businesses
for
more
than
a
decade
now
and
with
no
harm
and
and
it's
helped,
grow
small
businesses
and
I
feel
like
by
barring
any
consideration
of
the
workforce
qualifications.
T
E
To
my
well-respected
friend
from
davidson
county,
what
this
bill
this
bill
doesn't
contemplate
that
as
much
as
it
does
what
happens
on
the
job
site.
That's
what
we're
really
concerned
with
this
shouldn't
be
a
problem
for
those
businesses
to
be
certified
through
record
keeping
through
the
office
through
submission
of
information.
What
this
bill
does
is
tends
to
keep
the
job
site,
control,
limited
access
to
the
job
site
for
those
employees
and
subcontractors
of
the
contracting
facility
or
contracting
agency.
The.
E
When
local
governments
issue
building
permits,
when
they
issue
entitlements
and
approvals
for
projects
at
that
point,
once
those
documents
have
been
issued,
this
bill
contemplates
the
position
that
that's
time
to
let
the
professionals
go
to
work
and
keep
the
job
site
safe
and
adhere
to
a
standard
of
rules
that
apply
all
across
the
state
which
include
both
state
and
federal.
And
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
bill
is
to
make
sure
that
a
contractor
adheres
to
the
same
set
of
rules
wherever
he
operates
in
the
state
of
tennessee,
represent
pal.
T
Okay,
so
then
you're
you're
you're
your
assertion,
you're
saying
that
there's
no
I
mean
this
doesn't
affect
the
tennessee
public
contracting
act
when
it
pertains
to
purchasing
and
embedding
contracts
that
might
exist
at
the
local
level
that
they
might
have
concerns
with
chairman
vaughn,
no
sir,
represent
powell,
okay
and
then
the
if,
if
a
local
government,
because
because
we
had
an
issue
here
in
in
nashville,
very
tragic
issue
where
a
worker
was
under
unsafe
conditions
and
actually
fell
to
their
death,
they
were.
T
It
was
a
clear,
in
my
opinion,
a
clear
violation
of
different.
You
know
osha
rules
and
and
standards
that
existed
and
and-
and
so
I
think
that
it's
been
contemplated
as
of
locals,
trying
to
look
at
that
and
make
sure
we
have
really
set
work
or
safety
standards.
T
So
would
this
way
and
impact
the
local
government's
ability
to
if
there
are
unique
circumstances
that
exist
in
that
municipality,
to
address
those
worker
safety
standards?
Chairman
vaughn.
E
That
does
not
adhere
to
this
act.
This
this
is
about
tosha
and
osha
standards
being
applied.
E
Now
then,
one
thing
that
it
does
preclude
it
will
preclude
local
municipalities,
saying
that
a
subcontractor
who's
who
are
a
hourly
temporary
worker
who's
on
a
job
site
for
30
days
or
more,
has
to
become
an
employee
of
the
contract.
E
T
I
still
have
some
concerns
with
the
bill
is
draft
because
I
think
that
there
you
know
there
are
some
issues
that
maybe
affect
the
contracting
act
as
it's
written,
and
I
know,
unfortunately,
with
that
situation
I
referenced
there's
been
a
lot
of
kind
of
passing
the
the
blame
back
and
forth
between
contractors
and
subcontractors
as
far
as
who
that
employee
actually
was
was
you
know,
working
for,
and
I
think
that
part
of
that
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
is
contemplate
that
and
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
all
workers.
I
E
E
You
cannot
provide
access
to
personnel,
information
or
data
of
anyone,
furnishing
labor
materials
on
a
work
site
to
a
third
party,
including
a
non-employee
designee,
unless
that
is
required
by
federal
or
state
law,
or
that
third
party
is
a
cpa
retained
by
the
government
contracting
entity
to
conduct
an
overall
audit
of
the
site,
require
written
contracts
or
agreements
for
the
provision
of
labor
or
materials,
furnished
and
furtherance
of
the
improvements,
unless
otherwise
required
by
state
law.
So
I
guess
that
says
that
you
not
every
agreement
has
to
be
written.
E
S
Of
course,
thank
you
very
much.
I
have
a
concern
because
I
it
looks
like
from
the
senate
amendment,
as
you
explained
that
it
it
prevents
a
municipality
from
imposing
new
requirements
with
respect
to
safety
in
davidson
county.
We
have
a
large
amount
of
blasting,
and
I
know
there's
been
talk
about
providing
additional
requirements
to
make
sure
that
people
engaged
in
blasting
use
of
explosives
in
residential
areas
have
that
safety.
Knowledge
looks
to
me,
like
your
bill,
would
prevent
us
in
davidson
county
from
addressing
this
local
problem.
Am
I
right
about
that
chairman
vaughn.
E
The
local
problem
can
be
addressed
in
a
number
of
ways
representative,
whether
it
whether
it
comes
through
the
issuance
of
the
permits,
whether
it's
through
the
entitlement
process,
that
the
local
jurisdiction
wants
to
engage
in
prior
to
issuing
any
blasting
permits.
But
once
a
contractor
gets
on
a
job
site,
they
will
adhere
to
either
federal
osha
standards
or
tennessee
osha
standards.
S
Stewart
yeah-
and
I
guess
I
guess
my
concern-
is
you
know
here
in
davidson
county,
we
have
maybe
some
unique
circumstances
that
our
local
government
would
want
to
deal
with.
You
know
we
have
a
large
amount
of
development.
We
have
a
limestone
base
that
most
counties
don't
have
outside
of
middle
tennessee.
S
It's
got
its
unique
properties
and
it
basically
means
anytime.
You
want
something,
that's
deeper
than
three
feet.
You
have
to
use
dynamite
to
make
it
happen.
Also,
we've
got
people
packed
in
real
close
in
the
south
nashville
part
of
my
district.
We
have
a
it's
a
very
heavily
populated
area,
but
there's
a
lot
of
development
and
there's
a
lot
of
blasting
and
obviously
that's
a
very
significant
matter
to
homeowners
who
are
suffering
damage
and
really
calling
their
council
people
wanting
relief.
S
I'll
just
tell
you,
I
haven't
noticed
that
the
absence
of
this
law
has
slowed
down
development
in
my
district
and
and
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
imposing
a
new
regulatory
structure
from
the
state
level
on
localities
that
seem
to
be
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
balancing
this
bill.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
against
your
bill.
P
P
And
so
I
really
appreciate
this
bill.
I
think
it
sets
a
standard.
I
think
the
reason
why
we
have
a
statewide
standard
and
a
federal
standard
as
it
relates
to
osha
is
because
they
have
thought
of
all
the
different
ways
in
which
safety
is
impacted
on
a
construction
site,
whether
it's
a
road
building
project
or
a
30-story
high-rise.
So
thank
you
for
this
bill.
I
look
forward
to
supporting
chairman
keisley.
A
A
H
H
A
H
Thank
mr
speaker
and
members.
This
resolution
would
say
that
on
monday
april,
the
12th
at
4
pm,
we
would
gather
together
in
this
chamber,
with
our
senate
counterparts
to
honor
lamar
alexander,
whom
we
would
have
honored
in
his
retirement
last
year.
We
will
have
senator
alexander
here
and
be
able
to
honor
him
for
his
public
service
that
has
spanned
literally
longer
than
my
lifetime.
We
will
also
be
gathering
in
joint
convention
for
the
confirmation
of
judge
jill
ayers
to
the
tennessee
court
of
criminal
appeals.
That
is
the
two
items
that
are
on
this
resolution.
A
Though
lambert
music,
concurrent
senate
joint
resolution,
497,
probably
second
any
objection
to
the
question,
any
objection
to
a
voice
vote
see
none
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
those
of
us
say
no,
the
eyes
have
it.
I
declare
it
adopted,
concurred
in
without
objection.
The
motion
reached
there
is
tabled.
O
C
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Next
week
the
house
health
committee
will
meet
immediately
following
property
and
planning
subcommittee
on
tuesday
april
13th
at
approximately
5
pm.
We
will
begin
hearing
our
last
calendar.
We
will
begin
taking
up
vaccine-related
bills
first
and
we
will
still
plan
to
meet
at
our
regularly
scheduled
time.
M
B
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
speakers,
remember
on
wednesday
april
14th
the
finance
subcommittee
will
consider
the
constitutional
amendment
calendar,
which
will
include
only
those
constitutional
amendments
previously
passed
by
the
111th
general
assembly.
Then
there
will
also
be
a
separate
calendar
for
constitutional
amendments
being
considered
for
the
first
time
in
this
general
assembly.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
E
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
been
waiting
all
this
session
to
watch
the
scintillating
commerce
full
committee
in
action.
You've
got
one
more
chance.
Tuesday,
10
30
is
our
final
calendars,
so
we
look
forward
to
dispensing
with
it.
Plenty
of
seats
are
still
available.
Thank
you.