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A
Have
it
in
our
models
tool
belt?
That's
you
know
trying
to
put
it
that
way
in
machine
learning
we
have
what's
called
ensemble
modeling
like
you.
Let's
think
the
algorithm
learn
from
data
right
and
actually
create
the
model
from
data,
but
depending
on
how
we
look
at
the
data,
we
create
different
models
and
when
you
then
ensemble
those
models
again,
you
get
a
much
better
understanding,
a
model
that
fits
much
better,
but
doesn't
overfit,
etc.
A
So
that's
my
thinking
that
we
should
definitely
especially
anyone
who
is
contributing
here,
feels
strongly
about
a
model
we
should
use
investigate,
make
use
of
definitely
also
put
or
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
as
well.
That's
number
one
personally,
this
bottom
of
the
pyramid.
I
feel
you
so
much
I
mean
I
went
into
this
whole
part
of
the
rabbit
holes
or
tunnels
because
of
a
project.
A
The
sun
protocol
was
about
bringing
solar
thinners
in
sub-saharan
africa
and
africa,
green
tech,
the
company,
a
social
and
social
enterprise,
are
doing
it
successfully
through
crowdfunding,
etc,
but
they're
really
embedded
and
when
we
were
devising
how
we
should
could
use
fundraising
through
tokenization,
to
create
more
liquid
and
and
bigger
funding
pools
for
those
ambitions
that
they
had.
A
A
Legitimacy
issues
come
came
up
for
me
and
what
you
are
proposing
is
the
biggest
one
and
in
the
latest
ecosystem
outflows
cohort
actually,
and
there
was
a
participant
who
you
know.
I'm
always
calling
for
you
know,
check
your
assumptions,
bias
and
you
know
for
this
open-mindedness
and
also
for
this
questioning,
I'm
gathering
all
participants,
assumptions
and
views
and
so
on,
and
he
basically
was
saying
why
don't
you
let
them
let
the
participants
on
their
own
assumptions,
and
he
gave
me
this
book
and
I
think
I
shared
it
with
you
as
well.
B
A
Extremely
participatory
approach,
right,
enabling
approach,
and
especially
not
coming
in
with
your
problem,
with
our
problem,
solving,
especially
from
token
engineering
like
this
technical
side
right,
it's
a
problem
and
you
have
a
problem
solution,
but
it's
an
optimization
problem.
I
get
an
algorithm
and
enough
data
to
figure
this
out.
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
scientism
of
token
and
drink
that
we
want
to
not
ignore
and
with
respect
to
like
grassroots
economics.
A
Yes,
that
I
mean
you
know
they're
they're,
really
out
there
for
over
10
years,
they've
been
doing
so.
They
know
the
domain
very,
very
well,
and
they
did
it
before
on
paper.
They
used
low
bandwidth,
mobile
data
right
and
they
have
the
best
repository
out
there.
I
personally
always
point
to
for
people
who
want
to
understand
how
what
tools
we
use
and
how
it's
really
tidied
up
repository
on
system
modeling.
C
I
actually
have
a
call
next
week
with
shila,
which
is
the
director
of
his
development,
and
I
have
a
call
with
them
next
week,
I'm
going
to
actually
present
them
something,
although
it's
not
the
capability
it
it.
C
It's
it's
something
that
I've
been
conceptualizing
that
seeks
to
alleviate
alleviate
poverty
by
creating
jobs,
but
doing
it
in
a
way
that
is
profitable
so
that
we
do
not
have
to
rely
on
on
philanthropy
or
on
altruistic
individuals,
but
actually
we
can
instrumentalize
the
greed
for
lack
of
letter
word
of
people
or
the
rent
seeking
behavior,
which
is
natural.
C
I
mean
I
mean
it's
completely
natural,
so
yeah
I'll,
present
them,
and-
and
actually
I
can
use
that-
to
inform
the
presentation
that
yeah
I'd
like
to
to
present
on
the
capabilities
approach
on
our
next
omega
omega
call,
two
weeks
from
now
so
yeah
we.
C
Can
keep
the
conversation
going
there
and
I
feel,
like
I've,
kidnapped
enough
of
the
meetings
so
I'll
pass
back
to
you,
soul,
sister,
so
that
we
can
start
with
the
agenda.
A
B
A
Here
I
just
wanted
to
add
here,
like
I
don't
know,
if
possibly
not
everyone
parts,
but
so
we
had
this
focus
group
of
around
eight
token
engineers
from
various
perspective
backgrounds,
but
and
not
just
technical,
but
also
from
you
know
the
art
community
creator
community
and
we
put
down
some
issues
that
are
recurring,
not
many,
but
I
think
so
three
areas,
situations
if
you
will,
that
emerge
where
you
need
to
make
a
decision
or
decide
for
something.
A
Knowing
that
it's
not
you
know
zero
one
right
wrong,
or
even
you
don't
know
a
perfect
solution
yet,
but
still
you
want
to
be
able
to
experiment,
to
gather
data
and
so
on
so,
and
we
had
the
second
get
together
last
wednesday,
where
we
also
had
someone
who
is
active
researcher
and
ethics
and
philosophy
who
basically
said
well,
I'm
interested
in
how
you
guys
are
handling
it
and
basically,
at
the
end
of
the
analysis,
gave
the
input
and
I
think,
for
example,
nathan
actually
put
it
forward
and-
and
that
was
the
takeaway
from
that
is
okay.
A
Now
that
we
basically
validated
our
initial
patterns
that
we
saw
that
decision
making
in
this
complex
network
human
coordination
in
a
socio-economic
technical
system
that
is
new
from
all
aspects
right
that
we
basically
need
to
have
or
practically
a
good
goal
would
be
for
us
to
come
up
with
a
framework
or
around
you
know,
compositional
synthesis
of
frameworks
that
helps
token
engineers
or
participants
in
token
and
economies
make
the
best
possible
and
decision
construct
the
best
possible
solution
with
their
current
knowledge
of
the
environment,
more
or
less
like
we
said,
leave
the
special
space,
and
for
that,
what
basically
manu
entered
in
is
that
we
know
there
are
a
few
frameworks
that
we
wanted
to
analyze
and
basically,
what
we
could
do
is
you
know
we
have
this
situation
and
what
can
those
frameworks
help
us
with
see
clearer
or
make
better
decisions
or
more
informed
or
more
participatory
decision
in
such
situations?
A
A
C
A
I'm
just
so
basically
saying
that
we
would
be
preparing
those
and
the
two
others
were
significant.
A
C
Yeah
I
have
another
one
yeah,
the
another
one
would
be
applied:
indian
ethics.
This
is
another
one
that
I'm
happy
to
share.
C
And
and
the
capabilities
approach
is
more
with,
it
deals
with
distributive
justice
and
how
access
to
how
how
freedom
is
evaluated
through
individual
capabilities
functionings
and
the
access
to
to
certain
type
of
resources
and
assets,
not
not
accurately
by
gdp,
which
is
what
we've.
C
B
C
B
C
And
nuanced
that
definition
is
and
applied.
Indian
ethics
would
be
yeah
more
specifically
by
ethics
as
distilled
through
you
know,
indian
culture
and
cosmology.
A
I
like
get
okay,
so
and
cinnamon,
maybe
also
basically,
is
about
they're
in
just
only
best
practices
when
things
are
simple
known,
right
known
and
then
there
are
other
quadrants
and
basically
emerging
practices,
and
how
do
we
get
there
when
things
are
complex,
evolving,
dynamic
and
so
on,
and
basically,
I
would
say
practice
finding,
maybe
so
I
would
use
so
and
interface
tomorrow.
A
Philosophy
is
world
views
just
acknowledging
that
there
are
different
worldviews
and,
depending
on
where
you're
at
hey,
you
need
to
have
an
understanding
of
your
world
to
be
like
what
are
your
values?
I
found
that
very
difficult,
but
there
are
some
helpers
to
get
started
and
then
also
by
going
through
that
yourself,
are
you
creating
more,
not
empathy
but
an
understanding
of
how
to
listen
for
the
world
view
of
others,
and
that
your
belief
system
is
actually
defining
how
you
value
things,
how
you
make
decisions
and
so
on?
A
So
that's
and
I
want
to
ask
one
more.
A
That
was
one
second
sorry,
geez
giz
had
something:
maybe
he
will
also
how
they
call
it
contribute.
So
basically
that
would
be
this
focus
group
analysis.
I
think
three
to
four
situations
of
situations,
dilemmas
that
we
identified.
A
How
can
these
models
help
and
through
going
that
through
that,
I
am
assuming
I
we
might
see,
similarities
within
models
across
models?
We
might
see
things
that
are
that
are
super
practical,
but
so
what
will
also
help
is
to
make
those
three
four
situations.
Dilemmas,
almost
caricature,
like
you
know
that
the
the
the
main
points
or
patterns
main
patterns
are
really
visible,
understandable
and
if
then,
you
know
manu
regis,
and
I
will
definitely
prepare
you
know
it
could
be
interactive.
A
It
could
be
a
presentation
and
somehow
make
that
applicable
or
really
think
about
how
the
group
that
participates
in
that
sessions
learns
how
to
apply
that
model
in
those
situations
or
in
one
of
those
situations.
I
think
that
will
be
super
practical
set
of
sessions.
B
So
I
wanted
to
say,
like
I
really
like
the
idea
of
having
descriptive
models
for
kind
of
ethical
decision
making.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
descriptive.
Models
are
kind
of
the
ones
that
we
always
encounter
through
our
day-to-day
interactions,
how
we
make
ethical
decisions
in
our
day-to-day
and
but
they
like
an
important
foundation
for
like
the
development
of
prescriptive
models.
B
So
I
like,
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
even
if
it's
just
starting
off
with
a
small
group
of
like
describing
some
ethical
dilemmas
that
we
encounter
throughout
our
interactions,
endows
because
it
is
such
a
new
space.
There's
not
a
lot
of
descriptive
scenarios
that
we
we
have
documented,
and
so
I
think,
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
document
those
and
see
what
our
most
popular,
I
think,
it'd
be.
A
cool
start.
A
Okay,
perfect
so,
and
I
think
that
would
be
really
a
valuable
exchange
in
this
group
and
we
can
also
record
or
invite
more
people-
I
don't
know,
but
that
would
be
super
valuable
to
put
together
perfect
good,
then
yeah
other
than
that.
That
would
be
the
utilization
of
the
focus
group.
One
analysis
would
be
perfect,
then
we
have
other
topics
and
there
basically
is
more
about
food
in
might
dates
in
my
text,
etc.
I
think.
A
So
if
anyone
is
interested
in
reviewing
the
topics
that
we
had
and
and
people
who
were
part
of
focus
group
one
and
have
feedback
of
how
we
could
improve
it
in
the
next
focus,
groups
would
be
great
if
you
join
that
working
session.
A
Right,
do
you
want
to
share
just
also
with
you
know,
it's
great
to
have
fresh
eyes
and
what
you
think
about
how
we
go
about
it
until
now
and
and
any
ideas
directions
you
see
worthwhile.
D
Like
I
can
share,
I
can
summarize
some
of
my
thoughts,
which
I
wrote
in
omega
chat,
or
maybe
sorry
I
will
open
a
moment
please.
So.
First
of
all,
I
believe
it's
a
very
important
task
to
build
a
like
concrete,
good
library
to
study,
introducing
that
interdisciplinary
token
engineering,
because,
like
there's,
you
know
a
lot
of
discussion
about
postmodernism
and
how
these
data,
like
abundance
of
data,
sometimes
bring
epistemologic
problems
to
us.
D
So
I
think
if
we
have
like
concrete
good
library,
it
will
be
very
beneficial
and
since
I
I'm
very
new
in
space
actually
so,
as
I
really
agree
with
your
point
that
in
this
space
is
generally
mostly
occupied
by
like
computer
scientists
and
mostly
like
hard
sciences,
but
actually
there's
a
lot
to
do
in
economic
side
or
like
two
theology
side
and
all
other
disciplines.
D
So
so
that's.
My
first
point
like
I
think
it's
a
really
good
task.
First
of
all.
Secondly,
like
I
introduced
foucaultian
concept
of
power
and
knowledge,
we
are
trying
to
build
a
bunch
of
knowledge
right
so,
but
while
we
are
producing
knowledge,
we
shall
think
about
that.
Its
relationship
between
between
power
structures
and
knowledge,
so
the
focus
thought
of
how
power
is
knowledge,
has
some
social
power
like
social
control
power,
for
example.
I
wrote
in
chat
just
now.
D
D
Some
like
middle
easterns
africans
should
do
other
crude
just
because
they
are
stronger
and
lack
of
cleverness.
So
even
there
we
can
see
how
this
kind
of
power
relations
affect,
how
we
produce
knowledge.
So
first
I
want
to
clarify
myself:
leti
had
did
a
good
criticism.
I
believe
I
don't
say
that
these
kind
of
power
structures
effect
of
knowledge
lead
us
to
think
that
there
there's
no
ethical
decision,
that's
all
about
power,
etc.
No,
I
don't
believe
that
I
believe
in
order
to
create,
let's
say
more
ethical,
app
and
knowledge.
D
About
tech
library,
my
first
point
is
that
we
shall
incorporate
these
points
actually
to
our
like
narrative,
because
at
the
end
we
want
people
to
engage
with
our
material
as
much
as
people
engage.
It
will
be
better
for
us,
so
we
can
specify
like
how
this
open
nature
of
knowledge
is
important
for,
like
fighting,
let's
say
with
those
established
paradigms
like
I,
I
quoted
aaron
schwartz,
one
of
my
hero,
like
the
world's
entire
heritage,
is
increasingly
being
digitalized
and
locked
up
by
a
handful
of
private
corporations
like,
for
example,
I'm
going
university.
D
B
D
B
D
Access
yeah,
that's
cool,
so
this
one
point
of
open
resource
should
be
part
of
our
narrative,
and
the
second
part
is
that
we
should
we
want
to.
As
chemnam
noted
in
her
like
comments
in
library
document,
we
wanna
create
an
ethical
library,
not
just
a
bunch
of
knowledge,
so
there
there's
second
point
like
how
we
can
create
this
kind
of
ethical
library,
as,
as
I
mentioned,
foucault
knowledge
has
some
historical
control
problem.
D
We
don't
want
to
give
it
to,
let's
say
unethical,
like
I'm
caricaturalizing,
but
like
evil
businessmen,
so
we
want
to
create
something,
let's
say
ethical.
So
how
can
we
know
that?
It's
writing
good
discussion
topic,
because
it's
a
very
good
old
philosophic
question
like
ethics,
for
whom,
like
which
ethics
is
better
etc.
D
But
at
that
point
sherlock
actually
did
very
good
criticism
like,
for
example,
I
said
the
reputation
point,
but
I
couldn't
express
myself
very
well
like
I'm.
What
I
mean
from
reputation
point
is
like
totally
democratically
giving
reputation.
D
Like
not,
if
you
are
professor
from
harvard,
you
will
have
like
more
reputation
etc
like
because,
as
I
note
in
the
50s
people
from
harvard
were
working
on
how
some
races
they
have
better
iq,
etc.
So
at
that
point
actually
we
should
think
about
like
how
to
implement
some
ethical,
let's
say
standards
to
promote
more
ethical
knowledge.
Producing
one
way,
I
believe,
would
be
like
fully
democratic
reputation.
Points
like
everybody
will
have
some
point.
D
For
example,
let's
say
a
guy
who's.
A
construction
worker
just
happened
to
know
those
and
crypto
space.
He
just
wanted
to
create
a
creation
for
how
he
entered
the
democratic
party,
so
he
will
the
five
five
five
essays
for
his
creation.
Then
we
saw
it
and
we
looked
at.
For
example,
it
says:
oh,
this
is
how
I
get
into
those.
D
D
So
I
think
we
should
not
frame
our
reputation
etc
to
credential
like
perfect
this
kind
of
stuff,
but
let's
say
more
democratic
and
things.
But
at
that
point
you
can
say
it
will
be
a
like
majority,
but
we
should
think
about
somehow
can
deal
with
it.
Maybe
we
can
make
shamnam
or
someone
as
like,
benevolent
dictator
or
something
like,
but
I
think
it's
very
fruitful
to
discuss
this
kind
of
like
knowledge
building,
because,
for
example,
when
smoking.
D
At
the
very
beginning,
I
think,
like
okay
there's,
there
will
be
a
library,
but
what's
the
difference
of
this
library
to
compar,
compare
to,
for
example,
let's
say
new
york,
public
library,
what's
the
point
of
creating
this
library,
so
of
course
it
is
multi-disciplinary,
that's
a
one
point
of
it
and
it's
like
free,
open
source
and
the
point.
If
it
is
like,
let's
say,
quote
and
code
more
ethical,
it
will
be
awesome
like
it's
like
library,
genesis,
upgraded.
A
A
How
do
you
call
it
validate
or
feel
literally
when
people
enter
the
token
engineering
discord
most
of
them
or
how
do
you
call
it?
Not
most
of
them
are,
but
there
is
this.
Oh,
my
god.
I
have
never
seen
another
place
that
resonated
so
much
right.
Although
it's
a
super
complex.
A
The
people,
I
would
say
are
on
to
talking
entering
commons,
have
been
especially
more
on
the
humanistic
side.
If
we
still
say
you
know,
or
if
you
still
see
those
two
sides
like
engineering,
heavy
and
and
humanities,
and
what
we
want
is
to
not
just
open
up
include,
but
also
to
really
understand
what
was
your
view,
although
we
might
be
from
opposing
sides
of
the
cryptoeconomics
flower,
what
drew
you
here
and
also
yes,.
A
Having
an
annotation
that
makes
those
connectivity
and
associations
from
each
your
perspective,
I
think
that's
super
valuable
and
that's
something
for
sure
is
missing
in
academia,
because
you
don't
get
credit
you're,
not
rewarded
in
the
in
academia
for
actually
doing
multi-disciplinary
or
transdisciplinary
research.
On
the
contrary,
you
always
get
slashed
your
publication
points,
because
there
aren't
any
well-known
conferences
or
journals
on
such
difficult
topics
and
they
mostly
die
out
like
cybernetics
back
in
the
day
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
So
actually
super
happy
and
does
anyone
else
want
to
add
to
those
two
points
like
how
are
we
going
to
create
the
library
or
anything
that
came
to
mind
when
you
are
listening.
C
I
would
just
have
a
footnote
that
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
obstacles
right
now
in
our
fast-paced
and
you
know
attention
deficit.
Culture
is
that
people
don't
find
the
time
to
actually
read
the
books
where
it's
where
most
knowledge
is
at
and
they
just
get
the
highlight
from
a
youtube
video,
and
so
in
that
vein,
there's
also
the
possibility
to.
If
we
have
a
library,
then
there
can
be
a
natural
language
processing
algorithm
and-
and
can
you
know,
crawl
through
a
certain
book
and
drive
the
insights?
C
I
know
there's
actually
a
platform
that
does
this
I'll
look
it
up,
but
that
you
actually
upload
the
book
and
it
gives
you
like
a
bullet
point
with
the
main
ideas,
and
I
know
they
they
do
it
through
nlp.
So
we
don't
have
to
do
it
from
scratch.
We
can
piggyback
on
these
types
of
tools,
but
but
yeah
we
would
be
getting
insights
from
the
books
and
then
we
could,
you
know
post
them
to
the
community
and
yeah.
C
B
C
To
make
the
most
out
of
it,
we
would
need
some
some
some
algorithmic
help.
You
know.
B
Okay,
yeah,
so
what
what
you
describe
solar
system
in
terms
of
like
why
you
know
ethics
in
terms
of
gone,
the
way
of
cybernetics
and
stuff
and
like
and
and
to
build
on
mount
mono?
Is
that
you
know
almost
every
ethical
dilemma
that
we
face
is
always
emerges
in
an
organizational
setting
with
some
type
of
time
constraint,
and
so
the
time
available
to
look
up
that
information
and
to
you
know,
gather
information
to
propose
solutions
is
very
limited.
B
And
so
I
think
that
if,
if
we're
to
build
something
that
that
has
applicability
and
and
utility
for
for
actual,
you
know
members
within
dows,
I
think
that
we
have
to
tackle
that
time,
constraint,
problem
and
understanding
that
you
know
maybe
really
focus
on
the
design
framework
or
the
design
approach
of
how
to
educate
people
on
how
to
make
these
find
solutions
for
ethical
dilemmas
when
they
emerge
in
a
time-constrained
system.
A
You
know
what
it
is.
What
can
we
do?
What
is
the
value
like
as
much
as
what
is
the
value
of
this
type
of
library
and
so
on?
A
If
you
want,
I
really
so
I
I
run
it
in
my
head
and
it
would
be
a
nice
exercise
and
I
think
it's
pretty
quick,
and
it
would
also
help
us
to
map
this
in
a
way
that
people,
when
they
see
a
library,
another
one,
but
they
actually
have
a
visual
representation
of
you
know
the
value
like
what
is
the
value
of
it?
A
Who
creates
those
that
value,
like
you,
know,
people
actually
bringing
in
their
subjective
annotations,
but
also
us
as
a
community
creating
or
using
algorithmic
tools
to
improve
quality,
etc.
So
the
soul
quality
aspect.
A
A
Who
will
be
the
supporters?
Why
will
they
support,
and
you
know
all
of
this.
A
I
am
guessing
that
you
know
through
this
work
of
of
mapping
the
library
and
so
on,
we
might
even
we
will
most
probably
also
figure
out
better
ways
to
actually
connect
to
other
resources
when
we
are
picking
out
those
dilemmas
and
so
on.
So
I
think
those
two
initiatives
are
going
to
really
reinforce
you'll,
be
a
good
positive
feedback
loop,
but
in
any
case
and
with
that
mapping
I
think
it
will
be
a
quite
well
conceptually.
A
It
will
be
simple,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
know
remember,
but
one
of
the
earliest
creation
or
token
curated
registries
etc
was
for
you
know,
listing
and
so
on,
and
such
a
library
is
actually
really
interesting,
but
we
have
a
short
list
that
you
know
is
always
new
up
to
date
and
so
on.
But
then
also
you
know
things
that
can
be
challenged.
A
For
example,
when
we
say:
okay,
there's
just
five
in
that
short
list
just
to
get
started
quickly,
but
then
new
things
can
come
into
that
short
list
or
or
from
that
short
list.
One
of
the
resources
can
go
into
the
long
list.
If
you
will
right,
but
will
still
keep
its
value,
attributes
like
the
annotations
and
so
on
and
a
we
could
do
an
incentive
and
creation
model
and
also
look
whether
we
could
and
now
the
question
to
the
more
active
stewards.
A
Creation
model-
I
don't
know.
B
A
Okay,
so
so,
basically,
I
would
definitely
look
into
what
is
what
can
we
reuse
from
the
coordination
tools,
all
this
or
forum
that
already
works
in
token
engineering
commons
that
people
a
have
experience
in
using,
but
then
for
such
an
incentive
creation
model.
A
If
we
ever
reach
the
fire
past
the
first
five
and
there
are
actual
people
really
caring
and
want
to
contribute,
we
could
have
this
also
as
as
an
easy
and
they
call
it
at
onboarding
if
you
will
to
use
all
of
the
decision
making
or
curation
or
signaling
tools
that
we
are
currently
using
or
that
are
being
used
out
there.
That's
just
an
idea,
but
I
would
definitely
if
anyone
is
up
for
it.
Basically,.
A
Because,
as
far
as
I
know,
there
have
been,
we
could
look
into
it,
but
there
haven't
been,
or
there
have
been
like.
We
have
already
have
an
initial
list
of
three
for
some,
some
domains
are
empty
and
so
on,
but
such
a
mapping
would
help
us.
Actually,
who
else
do
we
want
to
invite
to
curate
the
initial
shortlist?
A
And
there's
one
thing
that
I
think
it's
great,
that
we
have
it
as
obvious
or
as
transparent
or
something
we
are
aware
of
it's
this
source
of
knowledge
like
we
start
with
oops,
you
basically
start
with
the
cryptoeconomics
flower.
A
Right
but
that
too
shouldn't
be
problematic
or
too
prescriptive.
D
For
example,
for
example,
the
one
I
mentioned
about,
like
imaginary
constructor
worker,
how
he
learned
those
space
would
be
another
topic.
So
another
thing
come
to
my
mind:
for
example,
let's
say:
there's
a
poor
woman,
for
example
in
canada,
there's
a
community
called
there's
a
community
which
is
practicing
actually
solidarity.
Economics,
like
grassroots
economics.
There
are
black
women
who
don't
have
access
to
banks,
so
they
are
cr
creating
like
their
own
common
bank
but,
for
example,
they
had
problems
with
government
etc.
D
Imagine
that,
for
example,
they
decided
to
join
it,
decide
using
a
decentralized
finance
tool,
use
like
to
escape
government
or
like
frauds
of
leaders,
etc.
So,
for
example,
she
map
out
five
documents.
She
just
entered
how
she
decided
to
use
d5
for
grassroots
economics
like
there
is
a
bunch
of
things
like.
D
I
believe
we
can
learn
from
everybody
like
yeah
yeah,
for,
for
example,
one
of
my
favorite
quote
from
noam
chomsky
is
that
whenever
they
ask
like
who
is
the
most
intelligent
person,
you
have
ever
met
tomsky,
he
always
said
the
common
man,
because,
like
everybody,
has
doing
doing
something
better.
For
example,
my
brother
is
an
academic
who
really
cannot
cook
like
he
even
cannot
cook
an
egg
like,
for
example,
he
said
whenever
someone
cook
good.
He
said
it's
amazing
like
how
they
incorporate
those
skills
like
hand
and
the
taste
etc.
C
A
Yeah,
let's
play
with
that
a
bit,
I
would
say:
that's
this
whole
creation
model
and
we
can
really
start
a
simple
but
simple,
like
upvote,
download,
type
of
thing
and
nothing
gets
ever
completely
off-voted,
but
just
goes
into
a
longer
list,
but
that
we
basically
have
this
how
this
top
five,
if
you
will
right
the
makeup
of
that,
could
also
change
over
time.
A
Maybe
we
have
times
during
which
more
practical
sources,
and
during
crypto
winter
we
have
more
economic
and-
and
you
know
more
more
lengthy
sources-
I
don't
know,
but
that
would
be
definitely
one
thing
just
to
be
aware
of.
D
C
I
think
the
crypto
economic
flower
is
it's
too
complex.
It's
helpful
definitely
to
see
all
the
different
like
the
complexity
and
and
all
the
different
things
that
go
into
the
systems
that
we
make,
but
I
think
it
could
be
simplified
into
like
like
this,
like
it's
like
all
the
ones
from
the
flower.
It's
really
just
culture,
legal
or
or
policy-making,
and
the
economic
and
so
yeah.
I
think
the
current
and
if
I
can
just
go,
can.
C
Yes,
yes,
if
I
can,
you
can
see
my
screen
this
symbol,
I
mean
it's
it's
something
that
has
been
present
in
many
cultures.
C
Throughout
the
I
mean
millennia,
and
I
like
this
particular
one,
because
it's
one
line
and
I
think
the
problem
right
now
in
the
world-
if,
if
I
was
to
simplify
it
to
an
enormous
extent,
would
be
that
the
economic
dimension
has
through
lobbying
and
crony
cronyism,
has
infected
and
corrupted
the
legal
dimension
and
both
of
them,
the
economic
and
the
legal
together,
have
kidnapped
the
cultural
one
through
well,
the
different
types
of
of
arts
and
and
even
like
the
music
which
is
so
based
on
consumer
consumerism,
and
it's
just
hollow
for
them
to
to
to
perpetrate
themselves
right.
C
There
has
to
be
a
certain
type
of
culture
and
and
the
manufacturing
of
consent
through
mainstream
media
and
other
different
mechanisms
and
again
champion
deals
with
this
very
thoroughly.
So
I
think
it
just
it.
It
really
helps
to
look
at
that
way.
It
definitely
helped
me
when
I
first
came
into
this
three-folding
type
of
structure
and
it's
another
framework
to
add
tool
to
to
our
toolset.
A
Well,
yeah.
I
agree
that
basically,
there
was
most
practical
free
for
I
don't
know
aspects
like
crypto
economics.
Those
two
will
definitely
be
there,
but
the
third
one.
I
guess
it's
what
we're
doing
like
the
culture?
A
Where
does
it
play?
Maybe
the
combination
or
I
always
see
the
combination
of
you-
know,
psychology.
How
do
humans
make
decisions?
Then
law
ethics
philosophy
like
how
does.
C
And,
like
I
think,
the
red,
the
red
dot
is
like
the
omega
working
group,
it's
like
it's
it's
where
ethics
and
and
philosophy
and
justice,
and
all
these
things
that
have
been
discussed
since
times
of
socrates
and
plato
and
and
and
and
and
all
these
guys,
foucault
and
chomsky.
C
Time
contingent
and
and
they
they
they
move
on,
I
mean
matt
mertzel
shared
with
me,
a
video
about
chomsky,
saying
how
culture
has
changed,
that
in
in
alan
turing,
which
is
one
of
the
most
one
of
the
smartest
people
ever
lived
and
contributed
greatly
to
computing,
was
actually
killed
by
the
british
government,
even
though
he
was
a
war
hero
and
an
incredible
inventor.
C
He
was
given
this
treatment
for
to
cure
and
in
their
words,
to
cure
his.
You
know
homosexual
tendencies
so
like,
of
course
right
now.
That
would
be
like
like
like
it's
not
something
that
would
that
would
happen
right
now,
like
culture
has
progressed
in
their
way,
ethically
and
morally,
but
history
is
not
lineal,
so
we
can
we
can
regress
depending
on
the
time.
I
think
the
the
current
crisis
that
that
we've
been
seeing
is
is
a
regression
in
a
lot
of
fronts
and.
C
Progress
on
other
ones,
because
we
are
seeing
how
authoritarian
structures
are
and
necro
capitalism
is
actually
you
know
how
it
affects.
But
that's
what
I'm
asking
about.
C
A
I
agree
to
all
so
thank
you,
for
you
know
synthesizing
and
conciliate
consensing.
A
There
is
no
other
word
no
better
word
in
my
my
view
for
it,
and
basically
I
don't
know
how
you
feel,
but
this
has
become
actually
super
concrete
and
a
lot
of
things
to
do,
not
huge.
You
know
we
can
chunk
it
up
really,
but
I
feel
like
it
will
have
a
lot
of
kind
of
meetings,
not
working
meetings,
but
really
the
sharing
of
information
sharing
like
the
models
and
so
on.
A
I'm
wondering
or
do
you
have
insights,
how
to
best
do
that
is
github
zen
hub
how
to
enter
in
the
working
groups
have
been
mostly
organizing
their
work?
A
A
Okay,
I
would
literally
try
and
map
what
we
just
put
together
on
mirror
a
literal
map
that
we
know.
Okay,
this
is
happening
here.
This
is
happening
over
there
and
maybe
also,
hopefully,
we
find
more
positive
feedback
groups
between
those
two
initiatives
that
we
identified.
A
And
also
feel
like,
we
can
definitely
update
also
the
forum
post.
That's
also
something
that
I'd
like
to
do
no
problem.
A
What
would
be
really
good
if
you
review
the
notes
of
the
agenda
in
the
agenda
that
what
we
put
together
and
if
you
have
basically
any
more
concrete
sources
to
the
topics
that
you
just
link
them,
so
I
can
put
it
on
mirror.
For
example,
that
would
be
great
and.
A
Do
you
think
asking
manu,
do
you
think
it
would
be
already
good?
Would
you
would
you
like
to
share
next
week
already
something
about
the
capabilities
approach.
C
Yes,
definitely
I
can
I
I'll
work
on
something.
Is
there
a
omega
call
next
week
or
on
which.
A
So
the
the
thing
is,
I
I'm
feeling
like
we
should
move
from
bi-weekly
to
weekly,
just
because
we
have
so
many
things
lined
up
and
not
to
lose
momentum.
C
Yeah
definitely
yeah,
I
think,
even
symbolically.
The
bi-weekly
gives
the
appearance
that
this
is
not
as
important
as
the
other
groups
that
are
on
a
weekly
basis
and
oh.
A
C
Yeah
so
again,
symbolically,
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
working
groups,
but
it's
not
as
frequented
by
ass,
like
in
comparison
to
others,
so
yeah.
Definitely
I'm
I'm
all
for
moving
it
to
a
weekly.
A
Cool
very
good,
very
good.
Okay,
then
I
put
it
together
and
in
our
call
also
for
tomorrow
we
make
an
update
and
be
synchronized
in
the
chat
and
through
the
documents
during
the
week
then,
and
if,
if
you
have
any
anything,
you
want
to
spar
on,
please
feel
free
to
ping
me,
but
also
any
of
the
other
participants.
I
hope
yeah
thanks
a
lot.
Everyone.