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A
B
C
And
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
initiative.
You
know
like
starting
a
goal
like
this.
You
connect
with
yourself
and
you
are
more
centered
on
the
goal.
You
know
like
you,
even
if
you
I
was
thinking
I
mean
when
I
was
there.
I
started
to
think
on
other
stuff
and
I
was
like
oh
refocus
right
and
I
don't
know
it
feel
great.
Think.
Thanks.
A
A
D
Yeah,
I
also
liked
it
for
me
it's
great,
because
sometimes
we
come
from
several
calls
and
taking
that
time
helps
us
to
like
get
grounded
again,
and
I
felt
really
great.
E
Yeah,
it's
the
same
kind
of
idea,
but
I've
been
you
know
whether
it's
meetings
or
I
when
I'm
not
otherwise
occupied,
I'm
usually
listening
to
some
podcasts
so
having
some
just
silence
every
once
in
a
while.
Is
this.
E
A
Yeah,
that's
great!
Yes,
because
you
share
it.
Sometimes
we
we're
just
jumping
one
from
one
thing
to
the
other,
and
then
we
don't
have
time
to
stay
here
for
a
second
with
ourselves,
sometimes
just
doing
that
for
two
minutes.
It
it
changed
you
completely.
So
I'm
glad
you,
you
appreciate,
like
the
the
value
of
doing
this
and
yeah,
I
think
we're
experimenting
in
these
channels
with
lots
of
new
things
like
trying
to
well.
A
I
have
to
explain
that
trying
to
do
so
many
different
things
and
still
using
all
ways
of
doing
that,
even
though
we
are
trying
to
be
a
super
breaking
advanced,
visionary
people,
but
still
we
we
need
to
come
back
to
these
other
basics,
practices
that
are
that
are
not
maybe
very
valued
in
our
hectic
times
like.
A
Being
super
productive,
being
super
decisive
is
being
there
for,
for
anything
that
comes
up,
and
sometimes
just
well
being
mindful
of
of
what
we
are
doing,
even
just
breathing
for
a
minute
or
just
staying
with
with
your
body
and
yourself
in
what
you
are
doing.
It
that's
a
lot
of
value
in
in
our
lives,
in
our
calls
and
and
in
our
minds-
and
I
really
like
this,
because
when
we're
just
saying
these
practices-
and
you
just
give
value
to
this-
you
start
to
think
out
everything
you
do
in
your
daily
life.
A
So
we
we're
here
talking
to
these
other
people
that
we
just
got
to
know
through
the
internet
so
through
this
channel.
A
So
through
these
experiments,
and
then
you
realize
that,
even
though
there
is
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
weird
because
we
we
are
here
just
trying
to
connect
through
these
channels,
you
start
to
see
value
in
everything
you
do
and
you're
trying
to
embed
your
your
life
with
without
it
a
different
meaning,
and
I
guess
what
we
are
trying
to
do
here
as
well-
is
to
just
put
this
puzzle
pieces
together
and
to
be
brave
enough
to
to
stay
with
other
people
to
share
our
experiences
and
still
be
yeah,
become
passionate
enough
to
to
also
know
that
the
other
is
not
really
the
other.
A
I
feel
like
what
I
feel
in
my
body
also
what
you're
going
for
right
and
and
if
we,
if
we
manage
to
create
these
spaces
between
ourselves,
I
guess
we
have
like
a
lot
of
highway
being
constructed
and
being
built,
and
what
I
like
about
this
is
the
women
it's
also
to
to
share
space
with,
with
others
with
with
ourselves
that
there's
some
time
and
being
able
to
yes
to
to
highlight
this
kind
of
spirit,
and
I
think
this
kind
of
knowledge
or
or
this
kind
of
stories
which
we
are
trying
to
to
embed
all
the
work
that
we
are
doing
in
this
organization
and
in
all
the
things
we
we
are
trying
to
accomplish.
A
Remember
we
we
are
not
separate.
We
are
still
going
through
these
times,
which
are
still
affecting
us
a
lot
so
coming
to
our
bodies.
Still
only
doing
this
breathing
exercise,
checking
with
a
different
mind
with
with
the
people
you
encounter
in
your
daily
life,
can
can
work
wondrous.
So
yeah
only
a
little
reminder
about
that.
If,
if
you
feel
stressed,
we
are
still
going
through
these
emotions,
we
our
bodies,
our
minds,
our
emotions,
are
still
very
much
impacted
by
all
these
things.
A
So
yeah
don't
forget
to
to
check
in
with
with
your
insight,
but
at
the
same,
at
the
same
time,
remembering
that
you
are
not
separate
from
the
people
you
are
talking
to,
you
are
working
with,
and
I
think
this
this
community
is
a
very
good
reminder
for
all
of
us,
and
I
invite
you
also
to
yeah
to
share
the
things
you're
working
right
now,
which
are
relevant
to
this
group,
maybe
and
to
all
the
yet
to
all
the
proposals
and
thoughts
we
were
hearing
here.
A
Maybe
coming
back
to
the
topics
we
shared
most
of
the
days,
because
those
are
great
reminders
of
the
work
we
are
doing,
trying
to
embed
ourselves
with
this
ethical
view
of
the
world,
which
is
mainly
based
in
compassion,
which
is
ahimsan
on
violence,
which
is
a
maybe
a
valuable,
a
good
express
for
for
communities
for
these
communities
and
all
the
communities
along
the
world
which
are
facing
difficulties
in
upholding
these
values,
because
we
are
still
trying
to
overcome
this
survival
mode
perspective
in
our
lives.
A
So
maybe
we
can
share
a
little
bit
about
that
and
coming
back
to
our
methods
and
linking
that
to
yeah.
So
he's
like
go
ahead
thinking
tattoo
to
our
work.
B
Yeah,
so
basically
did
I
understand
right
like
how
do
we
overcome
survival
mode
running
from
one
meeting,
saving
the
world
one
meeting
at
a
time,
and
instead,
just
you
know,
connect
to
the
people
with
whom
you
can.
B
New
new
space-
it's
super
important
to
me
at
this
at
this
time,
I'm
currently
at
last
week
of
the
ecosystem.
My
flows
course,
which
I
started
last
last
year
around
this
time
and
it's
super
interesting
to
see
it's
the
third
cohort
I've
met.
B
So
many
people
just
entered
this
space
through
this
course
and
again
it
seems
to
be
the
theme
I
really
want
to
figure
out
what
it
is
that
brings
us
together
and
also
I
want
to
figure
out
what
is
the
role
of
of
technology
or
technologists
in
this
in
this
very
special
community,
which
is
very,
very
different
than
the
previous
live
tech
community.
I
come
from
like
the
machinist,
the
mechanist,
the
electrification,
automation,
digitalization.
B
It
seems
to
share
a
vision
right
and,
and
how
are
we
going
to
learn
the
ethical,
the
ethical
engineering
side
of
things,
and
how
are
we
going
to
make
it
accessible
to
really
everyone
who
wants
to
participate,
not
just
engineers,
but,
as
you
know,
the
coming
people
coming
from
all
petals
of
the
flower
and
as
federico.
B
He's
a
math
philosopher
reminded
me
again,
even
the
cryptoeconomics
flower
that
I
love
to
flash.
It's
just
yeah
the
scientists
perspectives
right,
but
we
want-
or
I
wish,
that
whatever
we're
building
here
is
really
accessible
to
to
anyone
who
wants
to
participate.
B
F
Yes
sure,
thanks
for
the
yoga
thing
that
was
like
the
opposite
of
a
coffee.
F
Chilling
anti-coffee
exercise
was
great.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
a
community
and
corporation?
It's
you
know,
theories
are
all
great
and
all
that
stuff,
but
it
really
comes
down
to
people
meeting
and
trying
their
all
the
little
things
that
come
around
egos
and
desires,
and
this
and
that
and
so
theories.
F
Our
theories
are
amazing
and
then
we
have
our
own
little
deficiencies
that
come
around,
that
that
make
the
theories
attainable
or
unattainable,
and
you
know
it's
hard
to
do
it
with
their
with
this
technology
to
actually
make
progress
in
that
sense,
and
so
that's
something
that's
interesting
that
maybe
those
exercises
will
help.
F
And
yeah,
it's
a
sense
that
this
there's
a
lot
of
magnetism
towards
that
lamborghini
mentality.
Again,
it's
a
bit,
but
then
in
groups
like
this,
you
see
that
it's
the
opposite.
Somehow,
so
it's
it's!
It's
an
interesting
balance
happening
everywhere
anyway,
who's
next.
G
Can
take
it
julie.
F
G
We're
gonna
speak
out,
something
that
made
you
feel
in
a
certain
way
or
we're
gonna
be
quiet
for
a
minute
and
and
do
like
an
an
exercise,
and-
and
I
really
feel
that
it's
like
so
sometimes
it's
just
like
one
more
meeting
right
or
or
just
like
one
more
activity,
but
it's
like
even
like
in
in
in
in
real
life
as
as
chef
them
said.
G
So
before
we
start
we're
all
gonna
like
gather
together
and
we're
gonna
dedicate
this
time
to
something
that
is
important
to
all
of
us,
but
not
a
lot
of
people
I
get
or
talk
about,
and
just
in
in
general,
like
in
things
in
this
space,
I
can't
see
it
happening
another
way.
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
of
the
distance
or
it's
just
like,
because
we're
finding
new
ways
to
come
up
with
better
like
culture
to
to
share
truly
important
things,
and
I
mean
maybe
the
difference.
G
Is
that,
like
that,
there
is
like
what
we
give
value
to
is
much
more
relative
in
this
space.
So
maybe
we
feel
more
open
to
talk
about
these
things.
It's
like,
I
still
don't
know
what
it
is
like.
G
I
couldn't
point
my
finger
at
something
specific,
but
I
just
love
it
and-
and
it
drives
me
to
think
that,
like
I,
I
would
love
to
at
some
point
like
work
in
in
and
come
up
with
like
a
project
in
in
entertainment
industry,
but
like
definitely
something
that
I'm
100
sure
that
I
don't
want
to
do
is
like
do
it
the
same
way
as
as
before,
because
this
is
better
and
it's
just
like
get
like
unexplored,
and
it
makes
me
very
passionate
in
different
levels
to
to
come
together
with
with
people
and
come
up
with
new
new
ways
to
do
this
stuff.
G
I
I
I
find
it
exciting
in
in
yeah,
it's
like
as
soon
as
I
learn
something
I
I
love
to
think
about
how
to
apply
it
in
in
one
of
these
areas,
because
it's
it
changes
like
you
can't
help
it
changing
in
in
big
ways.
E
Yeah,
I
don't
really
know
exactly
what
to
say,
like
I'm,
a
little
fuzzy
right
now
changing
some
personal
habits.
So
in
the
interim
I
suffer
decreased
performance,
but
that's
that's
okay,
too,
but
more
to
the
point
of
what
we're
all
doing
here.
Yeah.
E
I
I'm
just
really
inspired
by
everybody
who
I've
observed
and
participated
with
connected
with
the
tc
and
just
really
coming
up
with
better,
like
more,
not
necessarily
just
better
but
just
like
more
thought
out
more
process
to
all
the
all
the
great
problems
that
really
want
to
be
solved,
but
so
I'm
just
happy
to
to
help
with
that
in,
in
whatever
way
I
can,
when
I
do
feel
like
I'm
still
just
kind
of
learning
the
lay
of
the
land.
H
Thank
you.
Yeah
I've
been
feeling
the
things
that
are
moving
a
lot
in
a
in
a
very
swarm
type
of
pace
that
feels
like.
H
Actually,
yesterday,
I
was
doing
the
stakeholder
interview
with
long
tail
finance
folks
for
for
the
te
academy
course,
and
it
was
so
great
to
be
questioned.
H
I
feel
like
answers,
come
in
such
a
bright
way
when
someone
asks
you
a
question
and
then
just
talking
to
them
understanding
like
the
complexity
of
everything
we're
doing
and
how
the
loss
of
control
it's
actually
the
most
interesting
part
of
it,
because
we're
talking
about
distributing
power
and
and
also
distributing
knowledge
and
information,
and
and
seeing
how
different
people
pick
up
on
different
parts
of
the
processes
and
can
communicate
with
each
other
and
still
make
sure
we
have
a
coherent
understanding
of
everything.
H
Even
though
we
can't
have
an
overlook
into
everything,
that's
happening
because
it's
too
much
yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
very,
very
beautiful
and
very
noble
from
everyone
that
is
involved
in
in
this
ecosystem
and
we're
also
talking
about
the
difficulty
of
understanding
when
one
project
ends
and
another
one
begins
and
how
this
is
like
the
boundaries
that
we've
been
sharing
and
how
ephemeral
or
like
how
invisible
they
are
and
that
so
many
times
projects
overlap
on
top
of
each
other
beside
each
other.
H
And
you
start
to
see
this
multi-dimensional
ecosystem
that
is
so
so
so
rich
and
then,
because
it's
not
obvious,
we
have
to
go
so
much
deeper
into
questioning
and
in
our
relationships
with
each
other
to
try
understanding
all
of
the
values
that
are
just
floating
in
in
the
system.
Everything
that
each
one
is
bringing
in
and
also
this.
H
This
phrase
analysis
that
is
happening
made
me
think
of
like
how
this
is
an
advanced
problem
of
a
diverse
community,
because
most
of
the
times,
this
problem
doesn't
even
exist
that
we
have
like
too
many
points
of
view,
and-
and
now
we
have
so
many
points
of
view,
and
so
many
perspectives
and
wanting
to
be
fair
with
all
of
them
is
such
a
challenge,
but
like
an
amazing
challenge
to
have,
it
feels
like
a
step
up
in
the
yeah
in
any
type
of
like
sharing
resources
with
each
other,
which
is
also
great
and
the
perspective
of
a
commons
yeah.
H
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
explo
explosion
of
things
in
my
mind
that
I
don't
know
if
they're
making
sense,
but
I
will
pass
too
so
sister.
I
Yeah,
so
I
guess
you
know
the
amazing
thing
about
the
the
community
and
in
particular,
like
our
practices,
is,
that
is
our
ability
to
kind
of
remove
the
self.
On
behalf
of
the
collective,
like
libby
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
different
opinions
and,
as
we
grow,
there's
more
of
those
signals
that
come
out
to
decision
making
and
how
we
aggregate
those
signals
into
you
know.
I
Purposeful
action
is
really
quite
amazing,
you
know,
and
and
to
have
you
know
the
small
group
being
that
unit
of
transformation
for
for
all
the
entire
commons
is,
is
pretty
impressive
and
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
you
know
what
we're
striving
for
and
to
have
these
kind
of
open
spaces
for
everybody
to
voice
those
opinions
and
to
produce
those
signals
is
extremely
important
and
it
it's
really
one
of
the
benefits
of
a
kind
of
a
decentralized
community
architecture
that
we're
building,
and
I
think,
as
long
as
we
keep
you
know,
being
open
and
and
keeping
vulnerable
and
keep
keep
exposing
those
ideas
and
those
processes
to
each
other
that
it
will
kind
of
form.
I
Naturally-
and
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
huge
benefit
to
our
overall
productivity.
That
is
not
you
know,
seen
as
as
the
traditional
way
of
doing
things,
and
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
a
kind
of
a
lasting
legacy
of
this,
this
initial
commons
that
we're
we're
producing
here
and
can
serve
as
a
format
or
a
roadmap
for
other
communities
to
follow,
and
so
I
I
really
think
that
it's
really
special
that
what
we're
all
doing
here
and
yeah,
I
will
pass
it
to
katie
suga.
A
H
B
I
C
Yeah
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
still
learning
a
lot
but
like
lately,
I
was
thinking
you
know
like
all
these
things
we're
creating
in
here
it
can
apply
to
other
stuff
outside
right
and
yeah.
I
was
thinking
like
there
is
a
lot
of
communities
in
gaming.
I
like
especially
when
I
care
a
lot
like
it's
the
hills
of
the
store,
and
I
believe,
like
the
stores
we're
creating
here,
can
help
because,
like
there
is
a
lot
of
people
like
who
cares
about
this
community
but
seems
like
the
you
know,
like
big
bosses.
C
Remove
the
money
from
there,
so
there
is
the
competitive
scene
is
a
bit
dead
and
yeah.
I
was
feeling
like
you
know,
like
creating
some
model,
I'm
not
sure
like
if
the
commons
or
the
gardens
model
like
fits
the
best
but
yeah.
It's
still
learning
in
here,
and
maybe
something
I
would
like
to
do
in
the
future-
is
like
talk
with
blizzard
and
do
something
related
to
that
and
yeah
like
what
we're
doing
here.
It's
amazing
because
we
cut
we're,
bringing
we're
connecting
like
both
side.
C
I
never
fully
understood
like
how
the
system
functions
until
we
start
creating
the
parameters
and
all
that
stuff,
and
it's
super
cool
like
everyone
from
the
you
know
like
even
a
dude
like
me,
who
knows
very
little
about
the
coding
and
stuff
like
that,
it's
I
feel
I
can
do
it
right
and
it's
it's
a
very
nice
feeling
and
it's
amazing
and
I'm
not
sure
who
hasn't
gone
but
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you
so
sister
to
pass
it
to
someone.
D
I
haven't
gone
and
yeah.
This
is
something
that
I
have
been
thinking
this
these
past
days
and
that
somehow
we
all
have
chosen
to
be
here
and
like
facing
the
the
challenges
that
we
are
facing
because,
like
the
path
that
we
have
taken
is
the
one
that
has
broken
broad,
broad
those
here
and
that
for
me,
I
feel
that
what
I'm
doing
is
super
special,
because
I
I
have
always
thought
that
technology
and
the
value
of
technology
is
the
way
that
humans
use
it.
D
I
have
always
thought
that
you
can
like
use
a
screwdriver
to
stab
someone
or
to
like
make
a
table,
and
that
is
like
the
difference
be
because
that
that
humans
can
give
to
the
value
of
tools,
and
I
feel
that,
right
now
we
are
with
a
super
amazing
tool,
super
fast
tools,
but
we
also
need
this
ethical
factor
to
make
the
best
of
them
because
yeah
it's.
D
The
idea,
I
think,
is-
is
to
put
technology
to
to
favor
of
humankind
to
so
that
we
can
all
live
a
better
life
and
maybe
technology
itself.
It's
not
going
to
do
that,
but
with
the
a
good
of
use
of
technology
and
the
development
of
humans,
we
can
yeah,
improve
and
and
put
into
practice
yeah
like
using
technology
for
the
well-being
of
all
and
like
also.
D
I
always.
I
think
that
sometimes
like
small
frictions
between
humans
affect
like
the
the
achievement
of
goals
and
that's
why
I
feel
that
it's
so
important
to
have
and
to
promote
conflict
management
in
in
in
all
these
kind
of
spaces.
So
that
also
like
the
goals
that
we
have
as
a
group
don't
get
like.
D
We
don't
distract
from
the
goals
that
we
that
we
have
set
because
of
the
problems
that
we
have.
I
think
that
that's
that's
important.
We
cannot
let
like
conflicts,
stop
us
from
achieving
our
goals
and
and
yeah,
and
it
is
always
good
to
to
incorporate
that
and
and
that
mentality
into
this
kind
of
societies
and
into
this
kind
of
communities.
And
for
me,
that's
that's
super
great,
so
I
feel
I
feel
supe
super
motivated
about
the
work
that
it's
been
done.
D
A
Yeah,
I
will
I
will
take
it.
Phoenix
is
like
very
inspiring
to
be
in
this
kind
of
spaces
as
well
and
being
able
to
somehow
trying
to
to
give
the
best
for
ourselves
and
saying:
okay,
we
can.
We
can
still
continue
building
things
and
staying
with
people
at
the
same
time
and
being
able
to
manage
these
paradoxes
as
well,
because
we
we
all
come
from
very
different,
maybe
worlds
not
only
in
in
terms
of
professional
experiences,
but
also
in
this
myriad
of
ways
of
being
and
living
in
in
different
cultures.
A
At
the
same
time-
and
I
think
it's
very
inspiring
that
we
are
collectively
creating
this
kind
of
structure,
some
frameworks
to
to
be
open
about,
sharing
as
well
and
not
being
afraid
of,
I
don't
know
popping
in
this
channel,
and
this
call
and
doing
a
one
minute,
exercise
and
being
fine
was
saying.
Okay,
I'm
coming
for
a
super
different
meeting,
I'm
with
my
getting
in
in
a
very
technical
task,
and
indeed
you
see
value
in
standing
in
a
place
where,
where
maybe
we
are
discussing
so
paradoxical
things.
A
At
the
same
time,
we
are
trying
to
put
a
name
on
things
still
and
label
these
things
and
manage
our
our
own
internal
dialogues
and-
and
I
think
we
are-
we
are
being
very
truthful
to
to
our
to
our
mood
of
being
as
well
as
saying,
okay,
I
really
don't
understand
why
I'm
here
in
this
community
or
how
I
came
to
being
here,
but
still
I'm
we're
just
stepping
into
this
collective
intelligence
and
knowing
that
there
is
a
specific
reason
or
purpose
in
being
here,
and
we
acknowledge
that
at
the
same
time-
and
we
don't
enjoy
this
kind
of
duality
thing
and
saying:
okay,
I
don't
know
what
I'm
specifically
doing
doing
here,
but
still
I
find
the
value
anything
as
long
as
we
can
just
stay
with
that
feeling,
not
only
in
this
in
this
call,
but
maybe
in
in
these
troubled
times
or
in
a
specific
challenge
or
problem
or
activity
you
do
in
your
daily
life
is
gonna.
A
Well,
it's
gonna
increase
exponentially
all
the
work
you
are
learning
in
these
commons
or
in
the
communal
things
that
happen
in
this
time.
A
So
I
find
like
the
the
work
is
in
the
doing,
so
we
are
trying
to
connect
lots
of
different
worldviews,
lots
of
different
perspectives,
lots
of
modes
of
being
in
the
world
and
the
real
work
is
in
practice
and
in
walking
the
path,
and
that
means
being
being
here,
sharing
honestly
and
being
well
being
open
to
to
learn
from
the
others
and
not
not
being
stuck
in
these
all
modes
of
thinking,
which
is
thinking
it's
not
being
and
remember
that
if
anything
comes
up
in
your
mind
and
you
find
this
resistance
or
you're
hitting
and
calling
it,
you
keep
thinking.
A
What's
the
next
thing
you
are
gonna
do
because
the
next
thing
is
gonna
happen
in
your
life.
What's
the
next
thing,
even
you
are
gonna
say
it's
like
you
are
not
in
your
true
purpose
and
while
just
being
a
worth
that
is
gonna
is
gonna
help
your
your
your
specific
thing
in
your
life
and
and
those
who
are
who
are
near
you.
A
So
I
found
this
this
doing
and
this
practice
and
this
this
kind
of
community
is
exponentially
helping
all
of
us
and,
at
the
same
time
helping
all
of
the
fields
we
are
touching
and
we
are
trying
to
make
sense
of
by
the
year
by
the
way
of
of
doing
a
better
way
of
being,
and
I
find
this
very
inspiring.
I
think
that's
why
we
are
also
here
to
find
this
purpose,
which
is
happening
all
the
time
at
the
same
time
that
we
are
trying
to.
A
Yes,
maybe
leave
some
marks
in
the
sun
for
the
others
who
are
gonna
come
after
us
if
we
are
who
we
are
working
with
right
now
in
this
channel.
I
find
that
that
is
inspiring
to
me
as
well,
and
I
want
to
share
this.
A
A
If
we
acknowledge
as
well-
and
that's
what
is
happening
or
that's
coming
through
me-
that
it
it
is
not
everything
very
rosy
and
there
are
going
to
be
challenges
and-
and
we
still
face
this
resistance
inside
yourself
and
in
the
projects
we
are
doing.
So
I
find
that
as
a
way
of
that,
there
are
still
feelings
that
we
have
to
work
on
internally
in
our
own
ways
of
thinking
and
saying.
A
Okay,
how
do
I
relate
to
the
people
I
am
encountering
in
my
own
family
with
my
friends
with
my
colleagues
and
at
the
same
time
we
are
trying
to
do
this
rephrasing
work,
this
consistency
in
a
for
best,
non-duality
thing,
with
with
all
the
knowledge
and
and
all
the
situations
and
yeah
commons
we,
which
we
encountered-
and
I
found
this
like-
is
a
double
the
villages,
work
and
non-duality
thing
that
we
do
at
the
time
we
speak
at
the
time
we
encounter
others
and,
at
the
same
time
we
are
yes,
we
are
challenged
by
these
things,
that's
normal,
but
that's
the
beauty
of
the
work
and
that's
the
beauty
of
tying
to
you
to
put
things
together.
E
B
That's
something
where
I'm
constantly.
I
feel
like
I'm
constantly
failing
at
that,
because
it
is
so
tough.
You
know
making
sense
at
this
speed
and
keeping
things
together
and
really
really
figuring
out.
What
frameworks
should
we
be
using?
B
What
are
we
even
talking
about
you
know,
especially
now,
in
this
group
at
you
know,
figuring
out
the
ethos
of
token
entering
and
bringing
while
making
ethics
in
engineering
accessible
to
a
wide
range
of
community.
I
keep
asking
myself,
for
example:
okay,
it's
so
easy
in
a
project
to
succumb
to
the
majority
or
to
whoever
is
in
the
power
chair
and
those
power
chairs
exist.
B
B
Some
some
sort
of
guidance
or
or
a
program,
and
that's
maybe
something
yeah.
I
would
like
to
propose-
and
maybe
we
can
get
together
during
the
next
weeks.
If
any
one
of
you
has
time
and
interest
like,
can
we
actually
build
something
like
a
program
or
content
work
on
it
together,
but
then
also
make
it
accessible
to
people
and.
B
What
does
it
mean
to
to
make
things
differently?
What
does
it
mean
to
bring
in
the
ethical
dimension
into
a
very
technology-driven.
B
B
Maybe
it
wasn't
planned,
I
don't
know
letty,
but
I
took
notes-
and
I
think
it's
a
very
beautiful
input
to
our
manifesto
so
I'll
share
that
in
a
moment,
but
since
we
only
have
10
more
minutes
or
9
more
minutes
left,
I
would
really
like
to
ask
how
you
think
about
that:
how
how
can
we
actually
make
this
more
of
a
like
that,
be
among
each
other,
build
up
this
knowledge
and
also
share
share
it.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
huge
challenge
and
I
think
we
have
been
debating
around
this
kind
of
what's
the
framework
which
is
gonna
work
best
in
dangerous
of
putting
up
these
educational
programs
or
any
kind
of
program
that
comes
up
from
here,
and
I
guess,
there's
gonna
be
value
in
any
content
that
we
can
put
through.
A
But
at
the
same
time
I
acknowledge
that
it's
not
a
good
perspective
to
think
or
to
say:
okay,
I'm
gonna
do
this
super
bro
thinking
and
and
and
I'm
coming
up
with
the
best
idea
to
do
that,
because
that's
putting
you
in
like
a
perspective
that
you're
trying
to
solve
a
very
specific
need.
I
I
guess
there's
gonna
be
value.
That
is
super
difficult.
We
have
been
thinking
about.
E
A
Is
the
theory
we
want
to
to
do
that
and
we
came
up
with
the
survey
and
we
said
okay,
this
is
from
every
I
perspective,
and
so
we
are
forgetting
that
we
are
in
this
again.
These
eight
world
views
and
these
four
universal
aspects
you
can
put
your
your
yourself
in
and
where
I
feel
now
is
that.
A
A
We
are
still
thinking
from
the
eye
perspective
and
we
are
thinking
of
the
others
like
okay.
If
this
is
a
a
physicist
we
which
is
coming
to
hear
because
they
there
is
like
this,
these
new
frameworks
to
be
working
in
decentralized
organizations
and
I'm
gonna
get
value
of
this.
This
is
gonna,
be
like
one
framework,
and
we
put
this
in
this
user
personas,
and
this
super
is
difficult
and
only
being
aware
of
that.
A
It's
something
we
we
are
gonna
be
experiencing
through
all
the
meetings
or
all
the
time
you're
gonna
spend
here.
So
I
think
the
skills
and
the
capacity
of
each
individual
person
are
also
different
and
we're
going.
We
have
to
value
those
and
maybe
there's
no
value
in
all
the
people
like
going
through
the
same
knowledge
and
going
through
the
same
methods.
A
So
I
see
this
value
also
in
difference,
so
we
can
come
up
with
lots
of
different
guys
ways
to
do
this,
like
okay,
only
putting
up
this,
the
the
integral
theory
from
king
wilbur
and
you
go
through
that
or
you
will
go
to
beranta,
which
is
the
final
knowledge,
and
then
you
come
back
to
this
omega
call.
E
A
How
we
do
the
people-
and
it's
super
paradoxical,
and
then
you
say:
okay,
and
how
do
we
put
this
in
that
context
and
educational
way?
This
is
the
education,
yes
being
able
to
come
up
and
say:
okay,
what
do
you
feel
about
this?
Can
I
come
up
here
and
say?
Yes,
I
feel
like
this,
and
this
is
well.
How
do
you
put
that
into
an
educational
program?
A
A
F
What
that's
what's
gonna
decide
any
of
this,
and
all
the
theories
are
are
again
very
great,
but
the
the
idea
of
theories
is
that
there's
something
attainable,
some
some
fixed
model,
that's
gonna
work,
and-
and
that's
that's,
that's
the
threshold.
We
have
to
cross
right
now
that
we
have
to
move
away
from
fixed
ideas
that
will
solve
something
because
that's
we
we
we
are
crossing
that
threshold.
F
We
move
we're,
leaving
that
behind
us
and
moving
into
something
that's
completely
dynamic
and
and
there
will
there
will
never
be
anything
fixed
and
we
we
come
from
200
years
of
indoctrination
that
there's
going
to
be
something
so
a
solution,
that's
fixed
and
stable,
and
you
can
actually
achieve
it
and
we
know
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case.
It's
going
to
be
something
a
moving
target,
that's
dynamic
and
it's
going
to
be
figured
out
by
people
and
solving
their
their
in
the
individualities
and
all
these
things
and
and
there's
no
really
like
the
moment.
F
You
say:
oh
here:
it
is
it's
no
longer
it
because
I've
changed
so
so
we
have
to
is
a
really
hard
thing
to
do,
and
it's
not
something
an
individual
can
do.
It
can
only
be
done
by
a
group
of
people,
because
someone
will
find
something
that
will
say
okay,
this
works
for
me
great,
but
it
will
always
be
changing
when
you
put
someone
else
in
it.
So
it's
very
hard
thing
to
do
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
because
this
is
basically
some
figuring
out
a
living
organism
and
we
come
from
we
come.
E
A
F
B
Most
challenging
thing
ever,
but
if
that's
that's
exactly
the
point,
so
what
I've
been
for
example
struggling
with,
is
you
know,
we're
talking
about
policy
policy,
making
now
algorithmic
policy
making
and
you're
embedding
this
into
social
structures
right
and
the
social
network,
we're
going
to
engineer
safe,
socio-technical
socioeconomic
systems,
but
the
moment
basically
you
you
say
this
is
the
policy
we
should
be
implementing
is
the
moment
where
you
basically
a
manifest
all
your
assumptions
about
the
actors
and
why
they
have
been
why
they
would
act
in
a
certain
way
and
why
that
policy
that
you
chose
is
good
right
and
then
the
moment
you
insert
that
policy.
B
The
system
changes,
because
it
is
this
that,
because
it
is
reacting
or
it.
B
Sometimes
we
just
be
lemmings,
but
from
the
point
of
the-
and
let
me
put
it
that
way
in
big
quotation
marks,
algorithmic
policy
maker
or
a
token
engineer,
or
anyone
designing
socio-technical
systems
or
hoping
to
design
them
with
good
intentions.
F
You
should
be
able
to
make
those
decisions,
have
the
consensus
to
choose
the
governance
that
you
want.
You
can
have
from
complete
tyrannicals
on
one
side
to
completely
democratic
on
the
other
and
everything
in
between
and
have
every
algorithm
that
works
on
the
other
system
and
choose
it
when
it's
necessary
at
the
precise
condition.
F
F
F
B
Sebastian
thanks
so
basically
what
I
did
was
I
just
took
notes.
I
mean
we
had
this
on
our
to
do
and
now
I'm
thinking
we
should
also
have
a
2b
list,
not
just
a
to-do
list.
B
I
really
this
this
one
was
really
special
and
I
took
some
notes
in
the
manifesto
that
was
supposed
to
be
doing,
and
I
think
it's
I
will
just
share
it
and
I'd
like
to
just
continue
work
on
it
that
we
do
it
together.
I
made
some
notes
and
I'll
just
share
it
in
the
chat
and,
let's
take
it
from
there.