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A
That's
how
that
works,
and
so
in
the
spirit
of
ritual
nate.
I
will
start
with
an
intro
question
and
what
I
found
so
I'm.
I
was
working
on
how
best
to
phrase
this
and
I
came
across
this
great
phrase-
called
intellectual
humility.
A
So
what
I've
been
looking
for
is
how
we
can
talk
about
the
ability
or
the
willingness
to
say
I
don't
know
in
a
professional
setting.
So
for
myself
as
a
university
professor,
I
went
through
a
teacher
training
program
in
the
very
beginning.
This
is
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
learned
and
it
was
very
scary,
the
idea
that
you
would
get
up
in
front
of
a
classroom
and
some
at
some
point
at
many
points.
A
Someone
is
going
to
ask
you
something
that
you
don't
really
know
the
answer
to
and
you're
supposed
to
be
the
authority.
So
how
do
you?
How
do
you
do
that
and
I
think
we
might
feel
in
inclined
to
come
up
with
an
answer
that
might
suit
how
we
imagine
the
the
person
something
they
would
want
to
hear.
A
But
in
fact,
there's
a
there's,
a
big
importance
in
being
able
to
say
I
don't
know
about
something
and
sort
of
thinking
about
our
intellectual
humility,
so
I
kind
of
just
wanted
to
pass
that
around
a
little
bit
to
talk
about.
Why
and
how
that
might
be
important
or
how
you've
may
have
encountered
that
because,
in
particular
for
me
now
this
transition
into
the
crypto
space
there
it
this
is.
A
This
is
a
very
fast-moving
changing
growing,
developing
environment
and
I
think
we
we
all
might
encounter
this
or
you
may
not
know,
and
how
do
you
sort
of
deal
with
that?
Maybe
that's
a
good
way
to
put
it
so.
The
questions
I
wrote
on
the
agenda
were
just
why
and
how
is
that
important?
A
And
why
and
how
that
excuse?
Me
might
be
difficult
and
I
had
kind
of
a
third
part
which
was
how
we
might
view
this
as
a
weakness
or
as
a
strength
and
just
sort
of
your
reflections
on
that.
Okay,
so
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
pass
it
off
to
how
about
wonka.
B
Thanks
katie.
Well,
I
think
it's
very
important
to
be
humble
with
the
knowledge
because,
like
no
one
knows
everything,
and
sometimes
when
we
are
too
much
like
sure
about
our
ideas-
and
we
don't
want
to
hear
others-
we
are
like
falling
into
our
own
biases.
B
So
it's
very
important
to
to
to
like
be
humble
and
recognize
when
you
don't
know
things
and
also.
I
think
that
is
something
that
relates
to
authenticity,
and
that
is
something
that
I
have
been
reading
a
lot
lately
about
the
authenticity
in
in
organizations
and
it's
important
to
promote
like
an
honest
image
of
ourselves
and
not
like
this
false
concept
of
like
hey.
B
I
know
everything
I
am
perfect
and
that
that,
like
that,
like
fosters
and
promotes
and
reproduces,
like
a
false
image
of
of
a
human
being,
and
we
all
have
like
good
things,
bad
things
like
we
all
have
strengths
and
weaknesses,
so
it's
important
to
to
recognize
them.
C
D
E
So
I
think
providing
safe
space
for
this
kind
of
humble
answers
are
needed
and
making
sure
that
people
can
answer
that
because
most
of
the
times
we
are
being
judged
by
not
knowing
something
or
by
asking
too
much
and
just
in
a
personal
point
of
view.
I
remember
my
first
talk
with
in
november.
I
told
him.
I
asked
many
questions.
A
E
I
think
that,
for
me
it's
usually
tricky
depending
on
who
is
asking
if
my
mom
is
asking
I
will
be
like.
Oh,
I
know
it,
even
though
I
don't
know,
but
if
my
if
someone
I
respect
or
someone
that
I
work
with
is
asking
me,
I
immediately
I'm
honest
because
it
will
be
more
effective
for
the
work
that
we
are
doing
together.
E
F
Hey
thanks
thanks
for
that,
I
am
yeah.
Why
don't
I
start
with
this
there's
so
many
things
I
don't
know,
and
sometimes
when
somebody
asks
me
a
question
and
I
know
it
then
I'm
not
sure
I
know
it
anymore.
So
there's
I
feel
like
I
come
across
that
a
lot
and
like
do
I
know
it.
Am
I
sure
how
sure
am
I
I
feel
like
people's
reputation,
so
information
is
so
valuable
information.
F
F
If
you
see
someone
that
if
you
are
interacting
with
someone,
that's
always
correct
and
if
they're
not
correct,
they
say
I
don't
know
or
you
know
early
in
my
career,
someone
once
told
me:
there's
two
right
answers
the
right
answer
and
let
me
get
back
to
you
and
I,
like
I've,
always
sort
of
hung
on
to
that
which
is
like.
F
If
I'm
not
giving
the
right
answer,
then
my
answer
is:
let
me
get
back
to
you
and
then
get
back
to
that
person
with
the
right
answer
and
I
I
feel
like
that's
sort
of
like
the
guide,
which
is
like
that
I'm
trying
to
follow-
and
I
feel
like
you
know
when
I'm
interacting
with
someone-
and
I
know
that
they
always
have
like-
I
don't-
have
to
double
check
what
they
said.
I
don't
have
to
you
know
I
I'd
like.
F
I
just
know
that
they're
always
going
to
give
me
the
the
truth,
as
they
know
it,
it's
so
easy
to
to
work
with
that
person
and
I'm
talking
about
work
professionally,
but
also
in
your
family.
You
know
I
have
some
people
in
my
family
that
yeah
they
don't
always
really
say
the
truth
like
you
always
have
to
be
like.
Oh
that's
great,
and
then
you
have
to
double
check
and
I
feel
like
it's
such
a
waste
of
time.
A
lot
or
you
just
have
to
that
doesn't
become
a
source
of
information
for
you.
F
F
G
Hey
everyone,
how
are
you
for
me,
I
feel
like
you
time
is,
is
almost
like
the
same,
because
sometimes
I
I
I
feel
I
know
some
stuff,
but
when
I
get
asked
I
I
start
doubting
myself
and
I
end
up
being
like
well.
Okay,
I
know
this,
but
there
is
so
much
that
I'm
missing
to
know
to
actually
know
so.
I
appreciate
always
accurate
information,
as
you
say,
but
also
good,
critical
thinking
in
a
discussion.
G
So
I
I
like,
when
people
accept
that
there
is
not
a
full
truth
that
that
it
should
be
a
discussion
to
be
open
and
and
maybe
continue
to
discuss,
because
I
don't
believe
there
is
an
absolute
truth
and
and
that's
like
part
of
knowledge,
so
yeah.
I
feel
like
that.
Al
pasa
ii,
who's,
missing
nate.
H
Eggs,
potato
yeah.
Honestly,
I
have
a
hard
time
with
this
with
this
type
of
like
intellectual
humility.
In
terms
of
just
saying
you
know,
I
don't
know
half
of
the
time
it's
because
of
my
perception
of
myself
and
then
my
fear
of
perception
of
others
because
of
by
others,
because
if,
if
I'm
being
perceived
as
having
authority
on
a
subject,
I
I
almost
never
feel
that
way
about
myself.
You
know
I
I
feel
like
I'm.
H
The
one
who
is
is
not
the
one
who
knows
what's
going
on
which
puts
a
huge
responsibility,
because
it
does
carry
a
lot
of
charismatic
authority
when
you
do.
You
know
present
yourself
as
knowing
something,
and
so
I
don't
know
I
I
you
know.
I
just
try
to
share
my
thoughts
and
my
opinions
on
things
and
not
necessarily
dealing
in
facts
all
the
time
and
that's
a
really
difficult
thing
for
me
to
handle.
H
I
think
it's
it's
especially
being
in
this
space,
where
there
are
very
few
who
I
would
call
experts
and,
and
so
just
going.
You
know.
I
hope
somebody
doesn't
perceive
me
as
an
expert,
and
I
don't
often
think
of
that.
As
a
possibility,
but
it's
something
to
be
aware
of
and
yeah,
I
just
think
it's
really
interesting,
but
I
you
know
learning
how
to
say
I
don't
know
or
I'll
get
back
to.
H
I
Yeah,
it's
really
hard
to
to
say
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
I'm
really
lucky,
because
I'm
constantly
surrounded
by
such
humble
people
like
mateo
and
tam
and
nate-
and
you
know
you
guys
are-
are
maybe
it's
because
I
want
to
be
more
like
you
and
like
want
to
be
able
to
say
I
don't
know
more
often.
I
think
I
do
okay,
but
I
could
definitely
do
better
lots
of
times
where
it's
like
you
know
easier
to
coordinate.
I
Sometimes
when
I
think
I
know
what
people
did
or
where
the
state
of
that
is.
You
know
because
I
was
like.
I
think
that
they
probably
did
that
by
now,
but
maybe
they
didn't
you
know,
and
then
it's
like,
oh
so,
like
sometimes
just
mostly
around
the
coordination
stuff.
I
do
have.
This
expert
role
is
as
a
dao
person.
You
know,
and
often
I
have
strong
opinions
but
they're,
not
necessarily
right
or
wrong,
and
it's
really
hard
to
say
like
well.
I
Who
knows
you
know.
I
also
noticed
that
man
it's
like
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
testosterone
or
what
but
men
generally
suck
at
this
compared
to
women.
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
it's
very
true.
It's
just
like
you
know.
I.
I
J
Thanks
chris,
I
think,
there's
a
really
interesting
part
of
having
all
of
our
meetings
be
online
and
public
is
that
people
can
just
join
and
ask
you
a
question
out
of
left
field,
and
you
know
it's
not
necessarily
somebody
that's
in
the
organization,
so
you're
like
whoa.
I
didn't
think
about
that
at
all
and,
like
I
don't
know
you
know,
and
that
wouldn't
happen
in
like
a
regular
workplace,
because
everyone's
kind
of
like
looking
down
the
same
tunnel,
I
guess
you
could
say
so.
That's
something
that
I
noticed.
I
had
another
moment.
J
Oh
yeah
here
we
go
so
another
thing
with
public
meetings
or
discord
meetings
is
people
are
multitasking
and
I'm
saying
I
don't
know
often
because
I'm
actually
not
paying
attention,
I'm
working
on
something
else.
You
know
I'm
like
I'm
like
in
there
testing
you
issues
on
some
application,
and
somebody
asked
me
a
question
and
I'm
like
I
don't
know
sorry,
you
know,
and
maybe
that's
like
a
lack
of
focus
thing,
but
those
are
two
instances
of.
I
don't
know
that
I
feel
like
happen
to
me.
Often
I'll
pass
it
to
ryder.
Have
you
gone.
K
Thanks
mitch,
this
is,
I
could
just
talk
about
this
for
hours
like
with
a
small
group,
just
like
keep
yeah
just
I
want
to
say
yarning,
but
that's
not
my
word
just
like
keep
emerging
discussion
about
this.
K
K
K
I
can't
even
respond.
I
get
so
frustrated.
I
don't
know
where.
To
start
with
that
person,
I,
like.
I
want
to
start
with
go
decolonize
your
mind
and
then
come
back.
You
know
because
they
don't
even
know
that
they're
doing
it
and
the
fact
that
griff
said
that
was
just
like
that's
square
zero.
You
know
for
like
coming
into
things
that
you
do
know
and
being
like
real
about.
It
is
like
just
at
least
put,
I
think
before
it
like
it's
just
like,
but
yeah
I
was
talking
about.
K
Like
I'm
a
chiropractor,
I
have
a
doctorate.
You
know
that
makes
me
an
expert
in
like
going
to
school.
You
know
and
like
learning
a
bunch
of
stuff,
but
not
on
like
an
individual's
body,
and
so,
like
you
know
like
each
of
us
like
griff,
is
not
the
expert
on
every
dow
but
is
like
you
know,
moving
like
this
emerging
like
organizational
technology
forward
and
we
have
to
like.
We
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
we
want
to
like
consider
opinions,
but
then
it's
even
more
powerful.
K
K
I
have
been
really
challenged
in
this
space
to
say
I
don't
know
less,
because
otherwise
I
will
be
overlooked
and
people
will
just
question
why
I'm
even
in
a
server
or
organization
like
yeah
we
have
like,
I
might
be
the
top
of
the
leaderboard
and
I
might
be
like
you
know,
part
of
like
some
like
a
bunch
of
groups.
But
if
I
say
I
don't
know
it's
like,
oh
that
person
actually
isn't
like.
Do
you
even
like
work
here
like
so
I'm
like
choosing
my
battles
with
that.
K
D
K
Yeah
david,
I
don't
know
what
that
means
d-y-o-r,
so
I
don't
know
if
I'm
not.
L
Apparently,
after
some
sort
of
serious
emotional
bomb
and
boy
did
I
come
in
a
minute
or
three
too
late.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
is
the
where.
D
L
Yeah,
do
you
want
to
give
me
a
really
quick
synopsis
like.
L
Based
on
the
previous
comment,
I
was
going
to
make
a
comment
that
I
don't
think
we
should
be
allowed
to
say
I
have
no
distractions
or
because,
if
there's
the
option
to
say
none
people
take
it
right
and
intentions,
distractions,
none
no
move
on
and
no
you
gotta
have
some
because
you're
a
human,
and
so
if
you
don't
have
one
make
one
up
and
maybe
it'll
be
close.
That
was
my
going
to
be
my
only
comment
and
I
hope
I'm
not
intruding.
A
Let
me
give
you
the
question,
or
so
we
didn't
do
intentions
distractions,
but
what
we
did
here
was
in
self-covering,
intro
question
and
today
we're
talking
about
intellectual
humility
and
the
ability
to
say
I
don't
know
in
a
professional
setting
and
there
was
a
brilliant
moment.
Actually,
as
you
came
on
and
writer
passed
you
and
she
said,
I
don't
know
what
d-y-o-r
means.
I
thought
I
thought
that
was
perfect,
so
you
you
have
a
moment
there
to
do.
L
Critical
the
moment
you
think
you
stopped
learning
you're
done
you're
you're
on
death's
doorstep.
One
must
always
be
open
to
learning,
and
that
is
what
I
don't
know
means
is,
if
I
don't
know,
there's
room,
maybe
to
know-
and
maybe
there's
a
teacher
out
there,
that
can
help
me
know
or
a
group
of
teachers
and
I've
ranged
into
some
really
professional
jobs
too,
like
I
was
an
airline
pilot
for
a
while
and
federal
investigated.
Her
and.
L
Egos
get
big
and
it's
very
hard
when
identities
are
combating
effectively
for
one
person
to
shrink
and
say
I
don't
know,
that's
hard,
we're
all
we're
all
playing
with
that
ego
management
right.
L
That's
the
human,
the
human
process,
so
d-y-o-r
means
do
your
own
research,
and
I
came
across
that
acronym
in
this
space
and
learned
it
here
and
I
just
loved
it
and
a
couple
times.
I
failed
to
do
that
and
it
it
bit
me
and,
and
so
it
used
to
actually
be
like
a
full
sentence.
Please
do
your
own
research
or
you
might
get
scammed,
and
eventually
I've
been
shrinking
it
smaller
and
smaller
over
the
months
until
I'm
satisfied
that
it's
acceptable.
So.
L
A
L
It's
just
a
dmd,
so
those
are
my
thoughts.
Oh
and
you
know
what
it's
true
on
discord
meetings
without
visual,
I
mean
people
are
playing
xbox
they're,
changing
their
babies,
diapers
it's
it's
for
sure,
but
you
can
still
pay
attention
a
little
bit
audio,
but
it
takes.
You
know
it's
hard
to
gauge
engagement
and
with
that
I'll,
pass
it
to
someone
who
has
not
gone
these
swirly
mines,
who's
that
oh.
M
Go
for
it,
hello,
everybody
and
hello,
and
I
really
like
the
conversation,
and
I
want
to
add
that
in
turkey,
from
where
I
come
from,
we
say
that
not
knowing
is
not
an
act
of
shame,
but
not
willing
to
know
it's.
It's
shameful,
like
you,
shouldn't,
be
ashamed
of
not
knowing,
but
you
should
be
ashamed
of
not
wanting
to
know.
So
I
think
that's
the
key
thing,
but
I
I
mean
in
a
world
where
we're
living,
you
know
the
information
age.
It's
like
it's
a
choice,
not
to
know,
because
everything
is
you
know
available.
M
If
you
know
how
to
do
that,
you
know
research.
Everything
is
just
you
know
just
two
words
away
from
you
how
to
and
just
put
whatever
you
want
to
learn
on
google,
but
but
it's
also
true
that,
like
it's,
it's
become
a
thing
that
like
not
knowing
something
in
this
new
world.
It's
a
shameful
thing
like
people
even
say
that
they
would
say
they
know
something,
even
if
they
didn't
know
it,
and-
and
if
you
say
so,
then
I
would
I
sometimes
do
it
myself
too,
but
like
when
I
do
that.
M
I
always
like
you
know
secretly,
just
google,
whatever
it
is,
and
then
you
get
you
know
the
quick
information
on
it.
At
least
you
can't
even
go
like
learn.
I
would
love
to
continue
today,
but
I
just
did
I
received
another.
I
have
another
call
which
I
you
know
it's
just
just
been
clear,
clashing
they're
calling
me
now,
but
in
my
dao
experience
in
the
past
three
years
I
agree
with
you.
M
We
used
to
use
zoom,
we
used
to
use
google
meetups
and
what
I
experienced
is
when
people
are
meeting
online,
they
tend
to
do
multitasking
and
and
which
is
which
I
agreed
with
you
know.
Mitch
said
like
it's
not
super,
I
don't
know
people
should
choose
to
be
here
and
dedicate
their
time
as
if
they're
there
you
know
physically
and
and
then
not
multitask,
because
you
know
multitasking
is
great,
but
it
definitely,
you
know,
cuts
your
focus
into
different
things
that
you're
doing
okay
and
I've
joined
the
call
a
bit
later
by
the
way.
A
N
I
am
to
build
on
what
cyber
rabbit
was
saying.
I
think
it's
important
to
say
if
you
don't
know
something
as
well,
because
in
doing
that,
you're
opening
up
the
chance
for
you
or
other
people
to
find
out
together-
and
I
think,
that's
great,
because
you're
all
expanding
together
then
it
can
be
difficult,
though,
because
you
might
think
it
affects
your
status
within
the
organization.
If
you
say
you
don't
know,
especially
if
you're
known
as
as
the
knowledge
expert
on
that
in.
N
A
Cool
thanks
thanks
everybody
that
was
wonderful,
yeah
everybody
spoke,
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
add.
Maybe
we
can
do
this
another
time
I'll
I'll
speak
to
olivia,
but
I
wanted
to
also
talk
about
what
seemed
to
come
up
as
well,
and
I
had
in
mind
is
the
concept
of
imposter
syndrome,
because
it's
very
related
to
this,
like
the
fear
that
you
think
you
don't
know,
but
that's
a
whole
other
can
of
worms
that
we
can
visit
another
time.
A
Actually,
I
saw
a
really
fabulous
article
about
it
on
metagame
that
maybe
what
I
can
do
is
share
that
later
for
anybody
who's
interested.
A
Meanwhile,
so
for
today,
in
collaboration
with
wonka
and
his
his
suggestion,
we
thought
we
could
talk
about
the
various
proposals
that
are
on
the
table
to
that
deserve
some
advice
process
to
think
about
before
we
get
to
the
the
comments
upgrade
and
just
to
hear
some
of
your
your
feedback
on
those
so
wonka.
A
I
don't
know
if
you
wanted
to
help
start
us
off
if
we
should
go
in
a
particular
order
or
if
anybody
has
a
preference,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
the
weekly
update
that
came
out
this
weekend,
and
I
don't
know
why
they're
in
the
order
they
are.
A
I
put
them
in
that
order,
so
I
must
have
seen
them
somewhere
in
that
order,
but
we
could
also
start
with
what
we
were
talking
about
in
the
previous
call,
maybe
being
the
easiest
ones
first
or
something
like
that
where
we
could
move
more
quickly
or
I'm
not
sure,
in
which
case
we'd
start
with
the
last
one,
which
is
one
time
change
of
the
techh
addresses.
A
So
we
can
look
at
those,
I'm
not
I'm
not
great
with
the
screen
sharing.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
put
it
up,
I
I
that
would
be.
A
F
And
really
the
question
is
around:
how
do
we
verify
so?
The
idea
is
that
for
anyone
who
hasn't
seen
it
yet
there
are
people
who
might
have
lost
their
address
or
want
to
change
their
address
and
what
we
would
do
is
burn
tec
tokens
and
mint
new
tc
tokens
so
burn
the
tc
tokens
that
exist
in
their
old
address
that
they
will
no
longer
have
access
to
and
mint
add
tokens
into
a
new
address
and
the
the
community
raised
just
a
point
about
how
do
we
ensure
that
we
are?
F
We
are
doing
this
legitimately,
so
the
people
who
are
the
people
for
whose
token
the
people
whose
tokens
were
burning,
are
actually
the
owners
of
the
token
addresses
that
were
minting
to,
and
I
guess
it's
a
question
of
whether
we
do
this
by
the
people
publicly
asking
for
this
address
change,
so
maybe
somebody
would
submit
you
know.
I
tamara
was
using
this
address
and
now
I
want
to
use
this
address
and
sort
of
that
way.
F
The
whole
community
verifies
or
if
we
sort
of
consider
their
privacy
and
allow
them
to
do
that
and
have
certain
people
in
the
tec
verify
that
it
is
indeed
their
address.
But
don't
do
it
publicly.
F
Personally,
I'm
for
the
we
trust
approach
and
to
give
people
the
option
to
retain
their
privacy
if
they
want
to.
But
I
maybe
we
can
pass
to
nate
because
you
had
some
thoughts
about
the
issue
of
transparency.
H
Yeah,
I
just
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
issue.
I
do
like
the
solution
that
griff
proposed
in
terms
of
having
you
know
three
or
four
trusted
seed
members
to
collectively
verify
and
make
sure
that
there's
you
know,
transparency
around
the
burning
of
those
wallets
and
minting
of
those
wallets
and
keeping
those
identities
private.
H
To
me,
it's
not
more
about
the
the
privacy
of
it
but,
like
you
know,
I
think
it's
kind
of
just
making
sure
that
the
amount
of
wallets
are
the
exact
same
and
there's
no
kind
of
transferring
of
funds
or
or
governance
rights
to
other
people
that
we
don't
know
about
or
who
are
not
associated
with
adjusted
seat.
F
C
Yeah,
I
personally
also
think
for
this
case
it's
better
to
yeah
trusted
trusted
securities.
I
mean
this
whole
time.
We
were
doing
it
this
way
and
it
was
working,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
you
look
into
the
future-
and
maybe
if
someone
wants
to
change
their
address,
when
we
don't
know
who
it
is,
you
know
it
if
it's
not
transparent.
How
do
we
know
like
this
guy
is
the
right
guy
and
he's
not
playing
some
games
or
whatever
like
right
now.
We
know
all
the
people
and
we
are
very
like
we're.
C
200
hatchers
is
very
little,
but
when
we
like
in
the
future
in
future
economies
like
like,
we
want
these
systems
to
be
working
by
their
own,
and
I
mean-
or
at
least
it's
where
I
see
it
and
and
yeah,
but
again
like
for
this
time.
I
think
like
like
this
is
like
an
easy
solution
like
we
can
just
solve
this
problem
and
yeah.
That's
it.
We
solve
it,
but
it's
also
good
to
look
into
the
future,
sometimes
but
yeah
I'll
pass
it
to
grief.
F
Yeah,
I
know
second
septimus's
concerns.
It's
really
going
to
be
tricky.
I
mean
there's
only
one
way
to
do
it,
which
is
like
a
case-by-case
basis.
It's
going
to
be
very
tricky
for
someone
in
the
future
to
be
like,
I
lost
my
wallet
and
you
know
I
just
found
my
cryptokitties
from
2017
and
I
have
no
access
to
that
wallet
and
I'm
like
oh
they're,
so
cute.
F
I
could
look
at
them
on
ether
skin
and
it's
like
I'll,
never
see
them
again
but
like,
and
that
that
happens
to
people
right
like
it's
just
that's
part
of
it
and-
and
I
don't
know
how
somebody
a
year
from
now
would
be
able
to
verify
that
they
had
a
wallet
address.
F
I
mean
I
guess
they
registered
a
trusted
seed
that
they
at
least
have
that,
but
once
the
augmented
bonding
curve
is
live
that
there's
no
longer
really
a
a
way
to
verify
identity,
so
those
those
addresses
would
just
those
tokens
would
just
be
lost
and
that's
just
the
reality
of
it.
But
I
think,
for
this
initial
hatch
phase,
we
should
try
to
accommodate
our
hatcheries
as
best
we
can
and
part
of
that
is
sort
of
allowing
them
the
privacy.
F
If
they,
I
don't
know
that
we
even
ask
them
if
they
want
to
publicly
but
allowing
them
the
privacy
to
to
have
this
burn
and
mint
happen,
with
some
verification
from
tc
and
common
stock.
I
I
really
just
want
to
point
out
the
great
work
on
adding
the
1000
wrap
decks
die
in
order
to
cover
the
tollgate
fee
that
this
that
I
just
really.
I
think
that
was
a
great
move,
so,
but
just
some
awareness
that
it
will
pull
the
raft
x
die.
We
have
to
choose
which
pool
to
pull
it
out
of
so
when
you're
making.
I
When
we
actually
make
the
on-chain
proposal,
we
should
pull
it
out
of
the
the
non-redeemable
pool,
because
the
1000
wrapped
x
died
that
you
have
to
put
in
will
go
to
the
non-redeemable
pool.
So
when
we
get
to
the
technical
aspect,
there's
actually
two
pools
of
money,
and
so
I
don't
know,
maybe
it's
worth
saying
that
it's
a
technicality
but.
I
I
Yeah,
I
mean
the
other.
The
people
who
have
had
these
problems
have
reached
out
to
me,
but
all
three
of
us
will
do
it,
so
I
think
the
way
that
I
would
suggest
is
that
you
know
I
read.
I
talk
to
the
person
they
give
me
the
address.
Tam
talks
to
the
person
they
give
them
that
they
give
her
the
address
dan
talks,
the
person
they
give
him
the
address
and
assuming
we
all
get
the
same
three
addresses.
We
know
we're
good
right.
F
Can
I
just
okay,
you
say:
do
we
do
we?
Do
it
a
different
way,
since
we
know
what
who
they
are
because
of
trusted
seed?
Maybe
we
just
can
verify
their
address
through
who
they
are
like.
We
want
to
verify
who
they
are
more
than
the
actress
right
like
are
you?
Is
this
your
twitter
handle?
Why
is
this
your
email
address?
Is
this
your?
O
I
F
Yeah
we
did,
we
did
have
some
time
so
until
the
15th
we
we
said
we
would
accept
requests
for
changes,
but
we
didn't
really
promote
it
that
it's
an
option.
You
know
unless
you
read
the
flying
details
of
this.
I
A
Okay,
so
if
you
are
comfortable,
we
can
move
on
to
another
topic,
I'm
I
writer
thank
you
for
offering
the
time
right.
Just
to
note,
it
may
not
necessarily
be
the
case
that
we
get
to
all
four.
We
can
obviously
try,
but
we
know
how
these
things
go,
and
I
also
just
have
a
quick
question.
I
A
Okay,
so
moving
on.
Well,
in
that
case
tam,
could
you
do
you
know
the
the
the
the
delivery
date
of
each
one
of
these
off
the
top
of
your
head,
or
should
I
just
have
a
we
could
just
have
a
scroll,
the
I
mean
the
reward
system,
that's
a
biggie.
It's
just
says:
six
weeks
optimistically,
we
have
the
governance,
give
back
75
percent
and
the
initial
buy
into
the
bonding
curve.
So
maybe
we
can.
We
can
start
with
if
anybody
has
a
particular
one
that
they
do
want
to
talk
about.
H
B
Yeah,
I
I
also
want
to
talk
about
this.
This
proposal
and
I
find
it
super
interesting,
because
here
I
I
see
that
there
are
two
topics.
B
One
is
the
social
aspect
of
the
governance
distribution
and
the
other
one
is
that
technical
solution
to
implement
that
governance
give
back
so
like.
I
think
that,
on
the
part
of
the
of
the
governance,
there
is
not
so
much
debate
because,
like
yeah,
like
people
feel
that
we
can
recognize
with
governance
to
these
core
contributors
that
were
paid
for
during
the
cultural
build.
B
But
I
think
that
the
spiky
topic
is
the
the
thing
of
the
technical
solutions,
because
yeah
we
have
two
two
solutions
and,
like
one
is
said
to
be
like
quicker,
but
it's
like
dirty
and
the
other
one
is
just
it's
like
more
detailed
and
it's
like
the
proper
solution,
but
it
needs
like
funding
and
it
needs
an
additional
time
to
develop.
B
So,
like
I,
I
think
that
maybe
on
this
topic,
we
need
like
yeah
for
further
discussion
on
this
topic
and
also
to
know,
and
if
there
are
other
technical
solutions
or
like
how
can
we
implement
one
or
the
other
and
yeah
the
the
the
replies
on
the
post
have
been
very
interesting
and
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
that's
the
main,
like
spiky
issue
on.
B
How
are
we
going
to
implement
this,
and
if
we
can
do
it
fast
or
if
or
or
if
it's
better
to
like
wait
and
maybe
like
like
deliver
some
funds
to
to
like
helping
to
to
implement
the
the
the
solution
that
could
be
implemented
and
and
could
be
like
long-lasting
and
like
yeah,.
B
So
so
my
my
my
appreciation
here
is
that
maybe
this
could
be
like
a
two-phase
boat
and
and
like
the,
the
technical
solution
can
be
selected
or
can
be
like
posted
proposed
by
the
common
swarm.
But
I
also
think
that
the
community
should
like
somehow
like
certify
and
and
agree
with
that
solution,
so
that
it's
not
like
some
tech
technica
like
technocracy,
taken
solution
that
impacts
everyone.
I
The
the
tech,
no
matter,
what,
because
of
the
structure
of
the
dow,
whatever
technical
solution
is
taken,
the
the
community
would
have
to
vote
to
approve
it.
Basically,
the
if
people
are
again
like
honestly,
I
would
assume
so.
I
On
thursday
I
have
a
call
with
brett
brett
is
the
he
built
everything
that
we're
using
right?
So
he
is
the
lead
technical
developer
for
he's
a
lead
developer
for
aragon,
and
so
like,
there's
really,
no
one
better
in
the
world.
There's
not
a
human
better
in
the
world
period,
full
stop
to
review
our
bonding
curve
right
and
so
he's
going
to
check
to
see
if
he
believes
the
one
character,
the
quick
and
dirty
change
the
one
character.
Change
that
will
allow
us
to
make
a
parameter
negative
will
have
any
issues.
I
Now.
Seven
sem
has
identified
some
risks
with
that
that
I
personally
don't
think
are
risks.
We
just
have
a
disagreement
on
what
the
the
impact
of
the
risks
that
we
would
be
taking
now,
if
brett
says
it's
cool,
then
we
have
a
conversation.
If
brett
says
it's
not
cool,
then
we
have
a
comfort.
Then
we
don't
have
a
conversation
right.
So
it's
kind
of
like
if
brett
says:
oh
yes,
not
only
because
the
risks
that
sam
identified
are
kind
of,
like
the
dow
could
vote
to
make
this
negative
number
really
bad.
I
And
for
me
the
dow
could
vote
to
take
all
the
money
out
of
the
bonding
curve
and
give
it
to
charity
right
so
like
we
can
destroy
the
bonding
curve
in
20
different
ways.
So
adding
a
21st
different
way
to
me
is
like
not
a
problem,
but
there
could
be
problems
in
the
math
and
there
are
other
problems
I
identify
in
the
post,
like
people
have
money
in
their
wallet
that
they
can't
get
rid
of
right.
I
It'll,
look
like
that,
but
on
the
on
the
technical
solution,
I
actually
think
it's
sort
of
a
waste
of
our
time
to
talk
about
it
in
this
call
until
we
have
the
information
from
brett,
but
that's
the
background
on
it
and
in
our
difference
of
opinion
and
sem-
and
I
are
gonna
hug
it
out
next
in
like
a
week
and
a
half
in
person
too.
So
because
it's
it's
kind
of
a
tested
thing
for
our
ourselves,
because
we
just
have
a
disagreement.
I
I
it
could
be
done
post,
but
it
would
be
like
some
calls
it
heart
surgery
right
like
if
you
want
to
like
change
the
bonding
curve
after
it's
going,
you
have
like
you,
have
to
stop
the
market
and
that
already
is
kind
of
weird.
Probably
secondary
markets
are
going
to
go
up
or
down
compared
to
where
the
bonding
curve
is,
and
you
could
upgrade
the
bonding.
You
would
upgrade
the
bonding
curve
and
then
you
would
redeploy
hope
everything
is
tied
together
correctly.
I
So
it's
it's
it's
it's
not
that
it's
not
that
it
couldn't
be
done
like
the
quick
and
dirty
way,
just
shouldn't
be
done
after
the
hatch,
like
it
just
shouldn't,
but
like
the
the
eventually
you
know,
maybe
a
year
from
now.
This
quick
and
dirty
solution
wouldn't
be
a
problem,
because
I'm
sure
that
this
other
technical
solution
will
get
implemented
one
day.
I
But
I'm
I'm
curious
about
that
yeah.
I
really
hear
people
think
that
we
should
be
giving
the
people
who
were
paid
like
that
list.
Tokens
like
forget
forgetting
the
technical
solution.
Just
like.
Is
that
a
good
idea,
or
not
like
I'd
love,
to
hear
if
someone
thinks
it's
a
bad
idea
and
that
it's
just
simpler
to
go
with
what
we
have
or
if
it's
a
good
idea.
J
B
I
also
agree
with
this
proposal
of
returning
governance
rights
because
I,
I
think
that
the
main
reason
to
to
discount
those
impact
hours
was
to
not
double
reward
economically
these
people,
but
with
this
solution
we
will
not
double
reward
economically,
but
we
will
like
recognize
the
governance
that
was
deducted
because
of
payment,
so
yeah.
I
I
personally
agree
with
this.
I
We
recognize
that
and
tease
that'll
tease
that
out,
I
think
that's
super
cool,
and
if
we
implement
this
solution,
we
could
do
that
for
other
issues
as
well.
Right
like
I
would
love
to
be,
I
would
love
to
see
a
solution
where,
for
other
features
further
on
where
we
can
grant
governance
rights
without
giving
people
money,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
plethora
of
opportunities
for
that
having
that
feature
would
be
valuable.
K
This
is
the
second
time
that
I've
seen
this
proposal
talked
about,
and
I
first
of
all
love
that
it's
not
going
through
too
quickly,
but
also,
I
would
like
to
know
if
there's
a
resource
where
I
can
learn
more
about
this
spreadsheet,
that
I
see
up
here
and
don't
try
to
take
up
the
entire
time.
K
Having
explained
to
me
so
if
there
is
something
that
someone
could
pop
in
the
softgov
chat
sometime
today
or
something
or
at
me
of
like
documentation
for
how
to
understand
this
process
better
and
if
there's
not,
I
get
it
it's
cool
but
like
yeah,
and
then
I
want
to
go
on
a
huge
tangent,
which
I
won't
about.
How
cred
is
our
super
underutilized
like
reputation,
currency
currency
at
source,
cred
like
grain,
is
our
currency,
but
cred
is
just
like
a
score
and
how
we're
talking
about
making
it
a
non-transferable
token.
K
So
not
only
can
people
have
governance
rights
from
something
that
they
earn
from
contributions.
It
can't
be
bought
by
people
to
inc
to
like
increase
their
governance
like
rights
and
powers,
but
that's
like
just
in
the
chatting
with
people
in
small
groups
stage
when
what
isn't
that
stage,
but
anyway,
just
I
love
this.
The
same
that
I'm
diving
in
with
you
guys
the
same
time,
you
all
are
like
teasing
that
out
so.
F
The
initial
question
came
from
this
thread,
which
is
has
almost
90
comments
on
it.
It's
it's
a
long
read.
I
don't
feel
like.
I
feel
you're
gonna
get
more
confused
after
reading
it,
so
I
might
not
even
recommend.
I
F
But
that's
sort
of
where
the
this
this
proposal
originated
from.
K
You're
not
wrong,
I'm
really
bad.
At
long
term,
long
long
text
form
grad
school
kind
of
killed
that
part
of
my
brain,
but
I
still
can
this
is
this.
B
I
I
just
sent
a
forum
post
on
the
softcup
channel
yeah
that
summarizes
written
by
by
mitch,
and
it
was
because,
when
we
were
doing
the
the
impact,
our
distribution,
we
made
deductions
to
the
people
that
were
paid
and
yeah.
Those
deductions
like
yet
affected
their
tc
impact
our
score.
But
then,
in
that
way
we
also
took
governance
out
of
people.
So
this
is
a
a
solution
to
return
governance
to
the
people
that
were
deducted
tec
from
getting
paid.
K
B
They're
in
the
in
the
tc
ratchet
in
the
tc
praises
project.
There
is,
there
are
a
lot
of
like
a
lot
of
pestanas
a
lot
of
like
folders,
but
all
the
information
is
there.
K
A
F
So
I'm
bringing
up
this
initial
buy
into
the
bonding
curve,
one
which
I
I
thought,
there's
actually
just
still
a
lot
of
room
for
exploration.
We
only
have
four
minutes
to
continue
this
actually
to
have
this
discussion,
but
the
idea
here
was
that
the
tec
has
an
opportunity,
as
a
dow
to
buy
its
own
token
within
milliseconds
after
the
bonding
curve
launches,
which
would
mean
that
it
would
be
the
lowest
price
of
the
token
that
would
be
available
for
some
period
of
time.
F
The
expectation
is
between
the
initialization
of
the
bonding
curve
and
then
the
thaw
of
the
hatch
tokens
which
would
enable
hatcheries
to
sell
their
tokens.
So
there
would
no
longer
be
a
sort
of
floor
price
secured
not
like
supported
by
the
hatch
tokens
that
exist,
and
so
there
are
some
different
ideas
for
what
we
could
use
these
funds.
For
I
don't
know
how
much
conversation
we
really
have
in
three
minutes,
but
there
was
some,
I
think,
a
lot
of
support.
F
It
seemed
for
this
idea
of
using
it
for
the
reward
dao,
although
there
was
also
some
pushback
about
whether
we
should
not
use
those
tokens
but
use.
What's
in
our
pools
already
for
rewards,
there's
also
some
thought
about
using
it
for
partnerships
with
other
dows,
so
it
would
be
sort
of.
We
would
be
able
to
offer
other
dao's
tec
token
at
a
favorable
price
and
they
would
offer
us
their
tokens
from
their
dell.
F
Another
idea
was
to
offer
a
favorable
favorable
price,
I'm
calling
it
token
to
some
strategic
ventures,
so
organizations
or
people
that
would
be
interested
in
participating
in
the
tec
and
would
be
strategic
for
us
to
have
their
support
and
or
expertise
or
efforts.
Or
what
have
you?
Another
idea
was
liquidity
in
second
markets.
F
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
would
be
able
to
use
these
favorably
priced
tokens
for
and
what
we
kind
of
need
is
there
to
be
some
champions
for
these
causes
to
submit
proposals
that
would
would
sort
of
specify
exactly
how
many
and
how
we
would
want
to
use
those
tokens,
so
how
many
we
would
want
and
what
we
would
use
them
for,
and
I'm
going
to
just
open
the
floor
to
anyone
who
wants
to
jump
in
for
two
minutes.
We
don't
really
have
time
to
go
around.
H
I
was
thinking
people
like
bitcoin
and
just
kind
of
infrastructure,
public
token
engineering
projects,
radical
things
like
that.
I
don't
know
it's
it's
still
in
the
air,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
framework
to
follow,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
really
cool
idea
just
to
diversify
our
our
treasury.
A
little
bit.
J
H
Yeah,
I
agree
with
mitch
on
that
one.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
clear
like
you
know,
intention
behind
it,
but
I
I
do
think
that
if
we're
gonna
have
strategic
partners,
I
think
it
would
be
really
interesting.
To
I
mean
it's
gonna
be
a
combination
of
both
but
yeah.
I
If
we're
gonna
hold,
I
would
expect
us
to
have
a
sub-dial
to
like
a
service
down
to
hold
tokens.
The
dow
itself
is
very
inefficient
at
holding
other
currencies.
J
I
On
that
one,
I
think
it
depends
on
the
doubt,
and
I
would
say
that
you'd
want
to
have
like
like
for,
for
instance,
I
would
for
git
coin.
You
should
just
delegate
to
me
I'm
the
best
steward
out
there,
but
for
other
for
other
dows
there
there's
other.
You
know
other
kinds
of
solutions
that
you
might
have
to
take
an
active
participant
like,
for
instance,
tam
is
like
common
stacks,
prime
dial
representative,
and
has
to
check
in
with
them
every
two
weeks.
A
Top
of
the
hour,
so
I
think
we
got
to
call
it
quits
for
now
we
can
take
this
up
again,
hopefully,
but
until
then
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
have
a
good
day
have
a
good
night
and
see
you
soon.