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City Council, meeting 7, May 14, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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Part 2 of 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORECO8FBPUA
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0:08:47 - Call to order
A
A
We
acknowledge
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
the
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit,
the
Anishinaabe,
the
Chippewa,
the
Hutt
nashoni
and
the
wind
up
people's
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations,
Inuit
and
maytee
peoples.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto's
covered
by
treaty,
thirteen
with
the
Mississauga's
of
the
credit
for
the
benefit
of
those
who
are
connected
to
the
internet.
The
city
clerk
has
posted
all
of
the
agenda
materials
for
today's
meeting
at
Toronto
dot,
CA
/,
council,
councillor,
Thompson
I.
Believe
you
have
a
announcement.
B
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
speaker
and
good
morning.
Everyone.
This
is
an
announcement
for
satay,
sighs
school
and
their
annual
Walk
for
values.
Sachin
satis
I
will
be
visiting
City,
Hall
and
attending
the
City
Council
this
morning.
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
here
yet
I
didn't
see
them
behind
me.
I
don't
see
them
here,
but
make
the
announcement
in
tonight's
speaker.
It
appears
that
they
were
coming
at
10:30
according
to
what
I
have
here.
A
B
A
C
A
D
E
Do
speak,
er
that
the
report
from
meeting
six
of
the
board
of
health
listed
on
the
agenda
be
considered
by
council
and
I
will
make
a
few
remarks,
as
everyone
here
knows
on
the
Thursday
afternoon,
before
the
long
weekend,
without
notice,
without
warning
and
without
an
ounce
of
consultation,
the
province
announced
a
retroactive
1
billion
dollar
cut
to
Toronto
Public
Health
over
the
next
10
years.
It
was
retroactive,
as
our
budget
chief
knows.
That's
not
how
municipalities
operate
and
in
fact
this
cuts
takes
us
back
to
the
pre
Walkerton
and
pre
SARS
days
of
funding.
E
In
fact,
the
the
province
of
Ontario
is
the
only
province
in
Canada
that
doesn't
fund
Public
Health
at
100%
of
the
costs,
the
absolute
only
one,
and
so
what
does
Toronto
Public
Health
do.
As
every
member
of
this
council
knows,
Toronto
Public
Health
is
a
in
every
neighborhood
in
every
community,
in
every
corner
of
our
city,
whether
you're
one
of
the
634
schools
that
provide
student
breakfast
programs
to
the
211
thousand
kids,
that's
Toronto,
Public
Health
in
your
neighborhood,
whether
you're
one
of
the
schools
get
that
gets
fifty
thousand
doses
of
vaccines
every
single
year.
E
That's
public
health
in
your
neighborhood,
whether
it's
the
dental
screenings
for
kids
aged
four
to
twelve
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
of
them
every
single
year,
that's
public
health
and
whether
it's
food
quality
and
the
thirty
two
thousand
and
spec
shion's.
We
do
every
year
in
every
neighborhood.
That's
public
health.
The
irony
of
public
health
is
that
when
it's
successful
it
is
invisible.
You
don't
see
it.
How
many
times
have
you
read
a
headline
in
the
paper?
Child
doesn't
get
meningitis.
E
You've
never
seen
that
headline,
because
Toronto
Public
Health
works
to
prevent
it.
That's
been
no
more
evident
than
in
the
recent
days
regarding
a
measles
scare,
a
scare
that
is
not
an
outbreak
because
of
the
work
of
Public
Health,
and
so
when
you
invest
in
public
health.
Not
only
do
you
prevent
the
diseases
of
tomorrow
and
improve
people's
health
tomorrow,
but
you
prevent
health
care
costs
from
rising
for
every
dollar
you
put
into
vaccines.
You
save
sixteen
dollars
in
healthcare
costs
for
every
dollar
you
put
into
tobacco
prevention.
E
You
save
twenty
dollars
in
health
care
costs.
If
you
have
any
interest
whatsoever
in
ending
hallway
health
care,
investing
in
public
health
is
the
best
place
to
start,
and
so
today
we
will
be
considering
these
cuts
and
what
our
response
should
be
and
I
would
urge
all
of
you,
as
you
consider
our
response
to
realize
that
across
this
province,
from
Thunder
Bay
to
Sarnia,
from
Peterborough
to
Halliburton,
from
Toronto
Ottawa
communities
across
geographical
and
across
political
lines
are
standing
United.
E
When
you
have
the
mayors
of
the
28
largest
cities
in
Ontario
speaking
with
one
voice,
when
you
have
the
Ontario
Medical
Association,
the
Ontario
Nurses
Association
and
the
Ontario
pediatric
society,
it
takes
a
lot
to
piss
off
all
three
of
them.
But
that's
happened
here,
and
so
it
is
time
for
us
collectively
to
come
together
to
ensure
that
public
health
and
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
residents
in
Toronto
and
the
residents
right
across
this
province
are
taken.
Care
of
and
I
urge
you
to
consider
this
item
seriously.
Thank
You.
F
Do
thank
you
and
good
morning,
madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
two
of
the
audit
committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration.
Members
I
will
point
to
you
that
there
are
seven
reports
from
the
audit
committee
on
today's
agenda.
We
had
a
great
audit
meeting.
We
talked
a
lot
at
the
meeting.
The
first
item
is
a
discussion
on
Toronto
Community,
Housing,
corporation's
alignment
with
strategic
priorities
of
this
council
and
the
audit
talks.
A
lot
about
the
relationship
of
the
corporation
with
the
council.
F
Although
this
audit
is
specific,
I'll
take
a
moment
to
remind
members
that,
if
you're
serving
on
the
boards
of
agencies,
boards
and
commissions,
maybe
you'll
take
some
time
to
think
about
that
relationship
with
Council
and
if
you've
got
advice,
please
forward
it
through
the
city
manager's
office,
so
that
the
special
committee
can
look
at
it.
There
are
two
audits
on
Fleet
services.
Both
are
different
topics.
F
One
of
them
has
to
do
with
the
lengthy
downtime
of
vehicles,
while
they're
being
repaired,
and
what
that
points
to
productivity
and
fleet
size
and
there's
another
audit
about
the
oversight
of
underutilized
vehicles,
and
that
is
vehicles
that
are
seldom
used
or
driven
for
less
than
5,000
kilometers
in
a
year.
Both
are
important
audits
and
are
very
helpful
to
fleet
services,
as
they
continue
their
transformation,
but
I
would
urge
members
to
take
notice
of
these
and
think
about
them.
There's
an
audit
on
the
review
of
in
forestry.
F
You
may
have
seen
a
little
bit
of
that
in
the
news.
You've
got
lots
of
discussion
and
questions
that
audit
committee.
It
is
important
because
it
it
is
a
an
example
of
the
auditors.
Look
of
contract
management
in
this
city
and
there
are
a
number
of
lessons
that
can
be
drawn
out
of
that
audit
not
only
applicable
to
forestry,
but
various
divisions
in
the
city.
There's
an
audit
on
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission,
z--
revenue
operations
and
fare
evasion.
F
I
think
many
members
would
be
familiar
with
the
subject
of
this
because
it
went
through
TTC
previously,
but
again.
Another
audit
that
got
lots
of
discussion
at
audit
committee
and
the
auditor
has
done
a
great
job,
putting
together
a
video
which
would
be
the
Coles
notes
of
what
they
found
in
the
audit
and
I
would
urge
members
to
have
a
look
at
that,
and
there
are
two
other
audits
which
are
similar
in
nature
and
those
are
reports
from
the
Auditor
General
about
outstanding
audits.
The
first
one
is
a
real
or
of
a
routine
audit.
F
F
A
B
A
G
A
A
H
A
I
Madam
Speaker,
that
the
report
from
meeting
five
of
the
planning
and
Housing
Committee
listed
on
the
agenda
of
council
be
presented
for
consideration
and
we
had
a
wonderful
meeting
with
a
wonderful
guest
that
joined
us,
that
this
committee
misses
miss
LaLanne
FRU,
the
United
Nations
Special
Rapporteur
on
the
right
to
adequate
housing,
participated
and
presented
our
meeting,
and
we
had
a
great
discussion
around
the
right
to
housing.
After
that,
we
also
had
a
great
discussion
about
how
to
protect
dwelling
rooms
and
for
your
information
that
work
has
said
being
sent
back
for
public
consultation.
I
But,
as
you
know,
housing
is
not
only
about
building.
It's
also
about
protecting
the
stock
that
we
have
and
we're
doing
great
work
and
planning
and
Housing
Committee
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
everything
from
dwelling
rooms
to
rooming
houses,
to
the
proper
stock
of
housing,
and
so
there's
important
work
being
done
in
there.
In
there.
We
have
a
series
of
also
supports
for
new,
affordable
housing
in
this
in
this
report.
I
We
actually
will
have
to
have
it
as
a
new
business
and
the
report
will
be
tabled
as
soon
as
safley
staff
is
able
to
finish,
but
I
think
there's
three
important
components
that
I
hope
people
are
paying
close
attention.
You
know
this
legislation
is
about
bringing
back
the
OMB
and
taking
the
representation
and
the
voice
that
was
given
to
this
council
chambers
into
the
citizens
of
the
various
municipalities
of
this
province.
This
bill
is
also
about
the
growth
plan.
I
There's
a
lot
of
lands
in
the
growth
plan
that
are
now
going
to
be
available
for
conversion
just
from
one
day
to
the
other
and
finally,
the
development
charges
the
impacts
that
the
development
charges
will
have.
On
the
many.
Many
capital
projects
that
we
have
undergoing
just
this
weekend
alone
I
was
able
to
open
a
community
center
in
my
ward,
that
was
done
completely
with
section
37,
with
my
community
at
the
table
with
negotiations,
and
this
is
how
we
build
communities,
how
we
grow
communities-
and
this
is
what
we
are.
I
We
have
at
risk,
and
this
is
what
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
more
information.
Unfortunately,
very
rushed
dropped
at
Council
in
here,
because
we
need.
We
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
have
the
proper
discussion
through
the
committee
that
it
should
have
gone
and
and
have
appropriate
time
for
this
council
council
to
ponder
and
to
actually
give
its
proper
opinions.
So
I
call
your
attention
not
only
for
the
items
on
the
planning
and
growth
agenda,
but
for
item
7.3
on
the
new
business
and
to
have
a
robust
discussion
about
Bill
108.
A
A
H
A
K
A
L
D
The
intention
was
I
would
do
it
before
those
motions
were
moved
and
it's
gonna
happen
in
any
event,
in
advance
of
putting
on
the
table.
What
I'm
going
to
speak
to
and
I
out
of
deference
to
counsels
time
did
not
take
any
time
introducing
the
executive
committee
report
so
that
we
would
not
use
up
excessive
time.
First
of
all,
good
morning,
colleagues
and
I'm
addressing
the
council
directly,
because
I
think
that
these
are
unprecedented
times
for
our
city
and
for
all
cities
across
the
province.
D
Today
we
will
be
discussing
the
provincial
budget
and
the
177
point
six
million
dollar
pressure
that
it
creates
on
this
city's
finances.
This
year
we
are
faced
with
retroactive
cuts
by
the
government
of
Ontario
to
our
budget
that
was
already
approved
earlier
this
year.
The
city
manager
has
clearly
professionally
and
objectively
outlined
the
impacts
of
the
funding
cuts
to
childcare,
to
public
health,
to
Toronto
paramedic
services
and
TTC,
upkeep
and
repairs.
It
is
clear
that
these
cuts
will
hurt
families.
D
Real
people's
lives
will
be
made
harder
if
these
cuts
proceeded,
thousands
of
families
risk
losing
their
childcare
subsidies.
Student
breakfast
programs,
we
fund
to
make
sure
that
kids
are
healthier
and
are
able
to
focus
on
school,
are
in
peril,
with
cuts
to
public
health
funding
due
to
a
cut
for
funding
for
EMS,
it
will
be
make
it
be
made
more
difficult
for
us
to
put
more
paramedics
on
our
streets
this
year
to
help
deal
with
a
growing
population
and
an
aging
population.
D
So
all
of
these
cuts
threaten
not
just
the
well-being
of
our
city
but
threaten
the
prosperity
of
our
city,
a
prosperity
that
every
government
should
be
committed
to
maintaining
and
expanding,
and
that
is
because,
as
we
know-
and
the
facts
bear
this
out
day
in
and
day
out,
Toronto
is
economic.
Is
the
economic
engine
of
Ontario,
and
these
cuts
run
the
risk
of
stalling
that
engine.
A
healthy
and
strong
Toronto
is
good
for
Ontario
and
good
for
Canada.
D
Major
changes
to
our
budget
posed
a
real
threat
to
Toronto's
prosperity
and
defy
logic,
and
that's
why
we
have
been
standing
up
for
Toronto
and
speaking
out
against
these
cuts
and
I
have
been
joined
in
that
by
a
broad
range
of
councillors
who
are
committed
to
this
advocacy.
This
is
not
partisan
bickering
or
politics,
as
is
often
presented.
D
Residents
should
know
that
these
cuts
have
been
imposed
on
their
city
without
any
meaningful
consultation
and
in
a
way
that
guarantees
financial
chaos
to
use
the
words
not
of
mine,
not
of
the
city
managers,
to
use
the
words
of
Ottawa's
mayor
Jim
Watson,
in
responding
to
exactly
the
same
cuts
as
applied
to
his
city
and
I.
Believe
it
is
the
residents
who
will
help
send
a
message
to
the
province
strongly
suggesting
they
should
change
course.
There
has
been
no
regard
taken
of
the
budget
process
of
our
city
or
of
other
cities
for
that
matter.
D
A
budget
process
governed
by
provincial
II
mandated
conditions,
which
saw
us,
approve
a
balanced
budget
months
ago.
There
has
been
no
recognition
that
we
already
spent
months,
particularly
our
city
staff,
finding
efficiencies
in
our
budget
in
order
to
ensure
for
the
fifth
year
in
a
row
that
we
could
keep
taxes
at
the
rate
of
inflation,
while
also
investing
more
in
key
services
like
transit,
like
policing
and
like
recreation,
just
to
name.
D
A
few
I
have
been
very
clear
in
my
repeated
public
comments
concerning
our
willingness
to
see
city
representatives
sit
down
with
the
province
and
talk
about
how
both
of
our
governments
could
work
together
to
achieve
efficiencies
and
I.
Repeat
that
invitation
to
do
so
today,
there
has
been
no
response
to
date
to
those
invitations
extended
publicly
and
privately.
We
all
support
running
government's
that
are
as
efficient
as
possible,
but
imposing
downloading
cuts
by
self
that
stretch
back
to
April.
The
first
is
not
how
you
find
those
efficiencies
or
actually
serve
the
residents.
D
Finally,
I
will
say
that
this
is
not
the
first
time
that
a
provincial
government
has
slashed
funding
for
cities
back
in
2013.
The
province
proceeded
to
cut
a
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars
from
the
city,
starting
with
50
million
dollars
in
the
2014
budget.
Members
of
council
were
properly
outraged,
including
then
Mayor
Rob
Ford.
D
It's
not
fair,
close
quote
that
councillor
was
the
vice
chair
of
the
budget
committee
for
four
years
and
is
now
the
premier
of
the
province
of
Ontario,
so
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
send
a
clear
and
united
message
today
to
that
premier
and
to
the
MPPs
in
his
government
who
represent
Toronto,
and
the
message
would
be
like
this.
We
continue
to
be
prudent
managers
of
taxpayers
money
and
you
were
absolutely
right
in
2013.
D
It
isn't
fair
that
the
province
is
putting
the
burden
on
the
backs
of
the
hard-working
property,
taxpayers
and
people
who
live
in
the
City
of
Toronto.
So
I
look
forward
to
today's
debate,
madam
Speaker,
and
sending
at
least
three
messages,
one
our
profound
opposition
to
these
cuts
and
the
unilateral
retroactive
way
in
which
they
were
imposed
well
into
our
financial
year.
D
Secondly,
our
willingness
to
start
over
with
a
businesslike
consultative
process
through
which
we
try
to
find
efficiencies
together
and
third,
our
resolve
to
take
our
concerns
and
our
message
to
the
people
of
Toronto
by
whatever
means
are
necessary
so
that
the
government,
especially
Toronto
area
NPP's,
will
put
people
and
good
public
policy
ahead
of
party.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Thank.
A
A
G
I,
do
madam
Speaker
that,
in
accordance
with
section
27
710,
the
council
procedures,
the
City
Council
removed
item
SC,
6.4
headed
traffic
and
parking
amendments,
Kingston,
Road,
Brimley,
Road,
barking,
hills
from
Scarborough
Community
Council
and
bring
the
item
to
City
Council
for
consideration.
This
is
around
concerns
around
the
parking
around
bluffers,
Park
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
get
some
decisions
made
before
the
summer
starts.
So
this
is,
it
was
on
Community
Council
for
May
and
then
coming
to
Council
in
June
I'm
trying
to
get
this
to
council
as
quick
as
possible.
Thank.
A
You
on
paper
carried
okay:
are
there
any
declarations
of
interest?
If
you
do,
please
put
your
name
up
request
to
question
staff.
Please
indicate
the
committee,
the
item
or
motion
number
in
the
nature
of
the
interest
and
remember
that
you
must
also
follow
written
declaration
of
your
interest
with
the
city
clerk.
A
O
Thanks
very
much
madam
Speaker
I'd
rise
just
to
present
petition
here
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
beaches,
East
York
188
signatures,
and
by
signing
this
petition,
these
residents
are
calling
on
premier
Ford
to
cancel
all
cuts
to
Toronto
Public
Health's
budget
and
protect
health
care
programs
and
public
health
programs
in
beaches.
He
short
and
the
City
of
Toronto.
O
We
went
door-to-door
and
talked
to
numerous
residents
at
some
of
our
public
schools
at
transit
stations
in
the
neighborhood
and
just
outlining
specifically
that
in
BTC
store
were
19.
There
will
be
nearly
100
public
health
services
that
would
be
impacted
as
a
result
of
this
sixty
five
million
dollar
hole
in
our
Toronto
public
health
budget
for
2019.
Those
programs
include
school,
immunization,
food
inspections,
diabetes
prevention,
leadership,
training
for
at-risk
youth
and
outbreak
responses.
So
I
just
wanted
to
present
that
with
council
today,
and
thank
you
very
much
thank.
E
You
speaker,
I
rise
to
submit
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
and
sixty
seven
petitions
from
Torontonians
representing
every
ward
in
the
city.
These
petitions
and
these
residents
are
calling
on
the
province
to
reverse
and
I,
quote:
they're,
short-sighted
and
dangerous
cuts
to
public
health
and
quote
and
they're,
calling
on
City
Council
to
stand
up
for
the
health
of
our
residents
and
seek
to
reverse
these
cuts.
Thank
You
speaker
thank.
A
You
members
I,
will
now
review
the
order
paper.
The
mayor
has
designated
item
mm
7.13
had
an
impact
of
2019
for
finding
provincial
budget
on
the
City
of
Toronto,
an
item
e.x
5.1
headed
Ontario,
Place,
Exhibition
Place
revitalization,
as
is
key
matters
for
this
meeting.
We
will
not
review
the
necessary
procedure,
steps
on
the
mayor's
first
key
item
when
we
get
to
that.
When
we
get
to
the
item
there.
These
will
be
our
first
and
second
items
of
business.
A
Today,
members
are
a
number
of
items
related
to
the
mayor's
to
key
out
matters
that
I
propose
be
considered
together
with
the
mayor's
consent
item
HL
6.1
had
a
2019
2020
Ontario
budget
announcement
for
Toronto
Public
Health
Update,
with
a
mayor's
first
key
key
matter:
mm
7.13
and
items
T,
5.2
6
and
T
5.2
7
regarding
Exhibition
Place
and
Ontario
Place
with
the
mayor.
Second
key
matter:
item
eyx,
5.1
mayor
toward
you
consent
to
the
joining
of
these
items
to
your
key
matters.
I
do.
A
Members,
I
also
propose
that
two
other
related
items
on
the
agenda
be
considered
together.
Au
2.2,
on
fleet
services,
operational
review
phase,
1
lengthy
downtime
requires
immediate
attention
with
item
au
2.3
on
fleet
services
of
operational
review,
phase,
1
stronger
corporate
over
sight
needed
per
under
utilized
vehicles
notices.
Emotions
are
scheduled
to
be
dealt
with
at
2
p.m.
tomorrow.
Only
if
the
mayor's
key
matters
are
completed,
I
propose
a
City
Council
set
a
time
for
a
closed
session.
A
If
required
later
in
this
meeting
the
city
clerk
as
I
noted,
the
items
that
members
wish
to
hold
I
will
now
go
through
the
items
listed
on
the
order
paper
to
take
additional
holes.
I
will
recognize
requests
to
make
matters
in
a
time
specific
after
I
go
through
the
items
for
additional
holds.
Once
the
order
paper
has
been
approved
by
council
any
change,
we
need
a
two-thirds
vote.
E
A
A
A
C
F
P
A
C
F
A
You
members
of
council
want
to
stress
the
importance
of
preparing
your
motions
in
advance.
The
clerk
staff
are
here
to
help
you
prepare
your
motions
and
in
particular,
if
you
intend
to
move
a
motion
during
the
release
of
holds
I
will
insist
that
your
motion
be
prepared
in
advance
and
given
to
the
clerk.
If
you
do
not
have
your
motion
ready,
I
will
not
recognize.
You
I'm
also
reminding
members
that
you
must
state
your
motion.
A
First
before
you
speak
to
it,
members
City
Council
follows
a
routine
through
their
processing
and
adding
of
any
motions
without
notice.
During
the
meeting,
please
remember
that
emotion
without
notice
must
include
a
reason
for
urgency.
If
you
have
an
urgent
motion
without
notice,
you
wish
to
bring
port
at
this
meeting.
Please
give
your
motion
to
the
city
clerk
staff.
They
will
prepare
the
necessary
procedure
motion
for
my
review.
Along
with
your
motion.
The
chair
must
agree.
The
motion
is
urgent.
A
Before
you
can
speak
leave
to
introduce
it
at
this
meeting,
it
will
require
18
votes
that
emotion
without
notice
to
the
agenda
during
the
meeting.
Motions
added
to
the
agenda
in
this
way
are
not
subject
to
a
vote.
To
waive
referral
to
a
committee
or
agency.
I
will
be
reviewing
all
motions
carefully
and
will
advise
council
after
each
recess,
which
motions
need
a
motion
to
add
to
the
agenda.
Will
now
go
to
the
mayor's
key
item
and
ma'am
7.13
with
HL
6.1.
A
C
E
Q
E
Q
E
Q
Q
Q
Q
G
You,
madam
Speaker
questions
to
the
city
manager,
mr.
city
manager,
first
of
all
want
to
thank
you
for
the
report
that
you
did
outlining
177
million
dollars
of
potential
cuts.
Our
concerns
on
the
2019
budget.
Now
there's
been
some
comments
that
these
aren't
real
numbers
that,
in
fact
there
are
a
lot
less.
So
can
you
comment
on
the
validity
of
these
numbers
and
how
they
impact
the
2019
or
can
potentially
impact
the
2019
budget?
The.
R
Speaker
this
report
was
prepared
through
the
assistance
of
many
of
the
professionals,
are
in
the
room
here
today.
So
accuracy
obviously
is
critical,
so
we
are
providing
information
based
on
the
best
available
information
from
the
province.
As
noted
earlier,
our
budget
was
completed
back
in
March
and
the
the
cost
of
these
cuts
will
have
or
placed
a
significant
pressure
on
or
2019
budget.
Should
you
ask
us
to
reconsider
the
the
approved
amounts
so.
G
From
your
perspective,
these
are
real
numbers
and
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
them
in
a
very
serious
manner.
Correct.
You
did
mention
that
you
are
I've,
been
sitting
down
with
the
province
having
ongoing
discussions
and
talks.
Are
you
confident
that
you
have
been
through
these
talks?
Discussions
have
been
provided
with
the
the
right
kind
of
information
you
need
to
to
make
the
assessment
of
what
kind
of
decisions
we
need
to
make
through.
R
The
speaker
there
are
various
tables,
I
mean.
Certainly
the
one
that
I
attend
is
the
one
related
to
transit
and,
and
obviously
the
gas
tax
is
a
is
a
point
of
discussion.
The
advancement
of
other
talks
at
other
tables
is
at
various
stages,
so
we're
providing
you
the
best
available
information.
We
have
I
can't
absolutely
guarantee
you
that
the
numbers
that
are
in
front
of
you
are
final
numbers.
G
R
It's
a
very
unique
occurrence,
as
you
can
imagine
through
the
speaker,
so
staff
are
right
now,
starting
to
turn
their
mind
to
the
logistics
that
are
involved
in
doing
such
a
thing,
so
we
are
as
well.
We
are
looking
at
the
you
know
the
magnitude
of
these
cuts
and
trying
to
assess
how
it
is
from
a
2019
budget.
R
G
Been
suggested
that
we
can
find
this
money
just
to
efficiencies,
you've
been
here
for
a
little
over
a
year,
177
million
dollars.
Can
we
find
that
in
efficiencies
and
and
how
do
we,
if
we're
forced
to
find
that
money?
How
do
we
do
it?
What
do
we
look
at
I
mean
other
than
if
we
can
raise
taxes,
we
can
do
serious
cuts
to
serve,
but
you
know
how
do
we
find
that
kind
of
money
within
the
system?
At
this
point
right.
R
It's
our
job
to
look
at
ways,
and
we've
been
doing
this
for
a
number
of
years
now,
as
you
well
know,
to
find
efficiencies
with
our
own
organization.
But
at
this
point,
where
you're
talking
about
a
figure
that's
approaching
a
hundred
and
eighty
million
dollars,
it
will
not
be
achieved
through
efficiencies
without
affecting
services,
even
if
a
portion
of
it
was
to
be
dealt
with
through
higher
property
taxes.
It's
still
going
to
result
in
us
having
to
scale
back
on
some
of
our
service
delivery.
R
K
Q
Through
the
speaker
absolutely
I
in
the
world
of
public
health,
we
concern
ourselves
with
prevention.
We
concern
ourselves
at
working
at
a
population
level,
but
our
focus
is
always
on
prevention,
where
possible,
in
order
to
prevent
things
from
happening
to
and
to
enhance
the
sustainability
of
health
care.
K
Q
The
speaker
that's
correct
again.
There
has
been
a
long
and
documented
evidence
base
in
respect
of
the
return
of
investment
return
on
investment.
I
should
say
when
it
comes
to
public
health
services,
you're
right
for
each
one
dollar,
that's
invested
in
measles
vaccine.
You
end
up
saving,
for
example,
sixteen
dollars
in
health
costs
for
each
one
dollar,
that's
spent
on
tobacco
prevention.
You
end
up
saving
about
twenty
dollars
in
future
health
care
costs.
Q
K
Q
Through
this
speaker,
there
is
indeed
an
rise,
an
increase
in
respect
of
vaccine
hesitancy,
that
is
being
noted
and
that's
not
unique
to
Ontario,
Toronto
or
Canada.
It's
something
that's
actually
seen
throughout
the
world.
It's
one
of
the
issues
that
does
concern
us,
because
we
do
have
a
very
effective
prevention
mechanism
in
the
form
of
vaccine
so
and
these
diseases
do
cause
significant
significant
health
issues
and,
in
fact,
have
economic
consequences
as
well,
and.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
we
actually
have
quite
an
extensive
role
in
the
world
of
immunization.
We
do
provide
immunizations
in
school-based
clinics.
We
have
community
clinics
as
well,
and
certainly
part
of
our
role
is
to
ensure
that
students
who
are
attending
schools
within
Toronto
are
appropriately
covered
and
are
actually
do
have
the
vaccines
on
board
that
they're
supposed
to
have
as
per
legislation,
in
order
to
create
a
safe
environment
from
vaccine
preventable
diseases
within
our
school
settings
and
within
our
broader
community
as
well.
Q
We
know
that
there
are
a
certain
number
of
people
within
our
population
who,
for
variety,
variety
of
reasons.
Medical
reasons
in
particular
cannot
be
immunized
themselves.
So
when
we
actually
have
a
well
immunized
population,
we
not
only
protect
those
who
are
immunized,
but
those
who
cannot,
for
medical
reasons,
get
immunized
against
some
of
these
vaccine
preventable
diseases.
So
it
is
a
protection
for
the
entire
community.
I
also
spoke
a
little
bit
about
the
economic
benefits
when
children
are
sick,
it
means
oftentimes
that
a
parent
needs
to
stay
home
from
work.
Q
K
You
thank
you
for,
for
keeping
my
children
safe
and
for
the
family
members
in
mind
that
are
have
are
on
immunosuppressant
drugs
and
I.
Just
had
one
last
question
on
Friday
I
had
the
ability
to
tour
the
Scarborough
medical
clinics
and,
in
particular
the
dental
clinic
and
the
sexual
health
clinic,
and
they
spoke
about
the
many
many
patients
that
they
see
there
and
many
of
them
waiting
for
emergency
care.
Could
you
just
let
me
know
what
these
programs
be
at
risk
if
there
was
cuts
to
public
health,
so.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
if
the
proposed
cuts
is
put
forward
by
the
province
do
go
through,
I
would
put
to
Council
that
every
single
one
of
our
programs
is
at
risk.
The
the
cuts
proposed
are
significant,
they're
deep
and
they
have
the
potential
to
impact
every
single
one
of
our
programs
at
Toronto,
Public
Health,
whether
they're
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care,
funded
or
otherwise.
Thank
you
for.
H
Q
Through
the
speaker,
as
I've
tried
to
make
clear
to
Council,
all
of
our
programs
are
at
risk
should
the
funding
cuts
go
through.
Certainly,
we
would
have
to
look
at
all
of
our
programs
that
would
include
restaurant
inspections
to
determine
how
best
to
manage
under
a
limited
or
restricted
financial
envelope.
H
Q
Through
the
speaker,
you
know,
I
can't
speak
to
what
restaurants
would
do.
That
would
certainly
be
within
the
purview
of
those
restaurant
operators.
However,
what
I
can
speak
to
is
the
fact
that
we
do
provide
these
important
food
safety
inspection
programs
and
that
they
do
contribute
to
keeping
our
community
safe
from
foodborne
illness,
in
particular
the.
H
Q
H
Q
Through
the
speaker,
I
would
refer
that
to
one
of
my
legal
colleagues
would
probably
be
better
able
to
speak
to
that.
I
do
want
to,
however,
clear
up
councillor
Pasternak
that
there
is
as
part
of
the
proposed
provincial
budget,
the
2019
provincial
budget.
The
province
did
announce
a
low-income
seniors,
dental
program
that
they
would
be
funding.
So
while
yes,
traditionally,
there
has
been
a
City
of
Toronto
funded,
low-income
seniors
dental
program,
there
was
also,
as
part
of
the
provincial
budget
announcement,
a
low-income
seniors
dental
program
and.
H
Before
we
go
to
legal
student
nutrition
programs,
now
the
province
has
said
they're
going
to
continue
to
fund
it
through
I
think
Child
and
Family
Services
or
that
ministry.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
would
not
face
cuts
because
choices,
tough
choices
have
to
be
made.
So
the
program
is
at
risk
through.
Q
H
H
Flows
through
the
province
and
that
isn't
part
of
this
discussion
correct
now
we
transfer
we
transfer
funds
to
to
the
province.
We
have
obligations
to
the
province
ago.
Go
Transit
is
this.
Is
one
that
comes
to
mind
I,
don't
know
whether
any
there's
been
any
discussion
about
holding
those
funds
back
to
backstop
some
of
our
public
health
funds.
Would
you
recommend
that
kind
of
action,
or
is
that
a
road
we
shouldn't
take.
R
Through
the
speaker,
I
always
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
give
you
all
options
and
and
the
risks
associated
with
those
options.
So
at
some
point,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
give
you
our
best
ideas
as
to
how
to
deal
with
this
challenge.
I
mean
we're
obviously
still
holding
out
the
prospects
that
the
province
would
reconsider.
Its
its
decision,
so
I
know
that
you're,
the
council
and
the
mayor
have
are
working
hard
to
see.
If
that
would
happen,
so
I
want
to
be
a
little
careful
about
and.
O
Very
much
madam
Speaker
to
the
city
manager.
In
your
May
9th
briefing
note
you
stated
that
the
province
hasn't
explained
why
Toronto's
cost-sharing
formula
is
different
than
every
other
part
of
Ontario
since
May
9th
have
we
heard
back
from
the
province
with
an
explanation
of
why
other
boards
are
expected
to
pay
less
than
1/3
and
in
Toronto
is
expected
to
pay
more
there's.
O
We've
also
heard
that
buried
in
the
public
health
cuts
are
additional
cuts
to
services
that
were
100%
funded
originally
by
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care
that
are,
those
are
initiatives
like
our
healthy
smiles,
Ontario
program,
infectious
diseases,
control
initiative
and
the
smoke-free
Ontario
strategy.
Have
you
do
those
budget
impacts?
Are
they
included
in
the
65
million
dollar
estimate
year
in
Toronto
through.
O
I've
been
talking
to
many
of
my
residents
about
the
impacts
of
these
cuts
in
Ward
19
in
our
community
public
health
has
nutrition
programs
in
schools
like
O'connor
primary
all
the
way
down
to
cube
each
walk
to
school
programs
from
Crescent
Town
to
Earl,
Haig
and
childcare
inspections
for
almost
60
different
centres?
What's
going
to
happen
to
these
services
until
we
come
back
with
a
plan
to
balance
budget
through.
Q
The
speaker
we're
still
trying
to
understand
the
details
of
what
the
ministry
has
put
forward
in
respect
of
their
budget
proposals.
Once
we
actually
have
a
better
sense
as
to
those
cuts,
then
we
can
start
to
work
as
a
senior
management
team
at
Toronto
Public
Health,
to
figure
out
how
best
to
manage
the
restricted
envelope,
while
at
the
same
time
trying
to
protect
the
health
of
the
residents
we
serve
as
best
as
possible.
We've.
O
Q
Through
the
speaker
generally,
what
happens?
I
can't
speak
for
every
aspect
of
the
budget,
but
with
respect
to
public
health,
we
generally
have
conversation
with
our
colleagues
at
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care,
usually
in
the
fall
of
the
Year
preceding
to
make
determinations
on
the
budget.
We
did
not
receive
any
signal
to
expect
anything
more
than
this
standard.
We
were
expecting
that
there
may
be
some
interest
in
in
making
some
efficiencies
and
and
some
cuts
in
the
name
of
efficiencies,
but
we
certainly
weren't
expecting
anything
on
the
scale
that
we're
seeing
today
and.
R
O
Of
course,
the
municipality
has
a
different
budget
process
and
other
levels
of
government
and
we're
not
carrying
debt,
and
we
have
to
have
a
balanced
budget.
How
do
we
respond
to
these
sort
of
cuts,
given
that
our
budget
has
passed
several
months
ago
and
were
partially
through
administering
those
programs
and
in
our
2019
year?
What?
What
are
the
options
for
us
to
respond
to
these
cuts
from
the
provincial
government
through.
R
The
speaker,
the
were
about
five
months
into
our
2019
a
year,
so
considerable
and
money
has
already
been
expended,
which
leaves
only
you
know.
The
remainder
to
continue
on
with
the
programs
that
you
had
approved.
I
expect
that
I'll
be
directed
to
report
back
as
to
the
options
that
are
available
to
try
and
deal
with
whatever
portion
of
this
challenge
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
But
you
know
you
can't
rule
out
there
being
a
second
tax
bill.
R
O
Appreciate
that
sentiment
and
I
also
recognize
that
we
are
year
one.
We
have
three
more
budgets
to
pass
in
this
term
of
counsel
from
the
city
manager's
perspective.
How
will
this
affect
the
way
we
manage
our
budget
process
in
the
subsequent
three
years,
given?
This
is
the
first
time
through
and
obviously
the
provinces
is
moving
forward
with
these
cuts
and
it
hasn't
been
a
very
collaborative
or
consultative
experience.
How
are
we
going
to
account
for
that
or
respond
to
that
in
subsequent
budgets?.
R
So,
each
year
we
have
a
when
we
begin
the
budget
process.
We
have
a
usually
a
a
very
large
challenge
to
address.
I
mean
keep
in
mind
that
we're
a
growing
city
we
grow
by
about
thirty
to
thirty
five
thousand
people
every
year
in
the
next
twenty
years,
we're
going
to
grow
by
a
million
people.
This
adds
nothing
but
service
pressure
that
we
have
to
somehow
address.
So
you
have
that
fact.
R
So
you
factor
that
over
the
next
three
years,
it's
going
to
make
this
notion
of
maintaining
inflationary
budget
increases
very,
very
difficult,
given
that
this
organization
has,
for
a
number
of
years,
met
the
challenge
of
trying
to
keep
taxes
reasonable.
So,
unless
we're
prepared
to
consider
service
cuts,
which
much
of
what
we
do
is
legislated,
you
know
it's
really.
It's
effectively
fight
we're
finding
ourselves
between
Iraq
and
Iraq.
Thank.
B
You
very
much
speaker
speaker
this
morning.
We
I
was
about
to
introduce
a
students,
principal
and
also
leaders
who
are
part
of
the
walk
for
value
from
sat
a
sized
school.
This
school
is
actually
the
number
one
rated
school
in
the
province
of
Ontario
for
their
EQs
and
have
been
for
the
last
5-10
years.
Actually,
the
future
doctors,
scientists
and
lawyers,
and
hopefully
politicians
are
actually
in
the
audience
here
and
I
want
them
all
just
to
say
hi
to
everybody.
B
Suka
bal,
su
Rami
and
the
Walker
values
raises
the
awareness
of
five
human
values,
the
first
one
being
love,
peace,
truth
right
conduct
and
non-violence
and
the
importance
of
practices
practicing
them
daily.
They
will
be
walking
on
Sunday
May
26
from
10
a.m.
and
they'll
be
basically
coming
to
Nathan
Phillips
Square
that
we're
raising
the
flag
on
May
23rd
at
12:00
noon.
So
if
you're
able
to
join
them
and
again,
I
would
just
simply
like
to
welcome
the
students
and
community
leaders
and
the
principal
from
Satya
Sai
school
in
Ward
21a
students.
C
C
C
R
There
isn't
through
the
speaker
in
terms
of
whether
we
approve
our
budget
when
we
approve
it.
Yes,
I
mean.
Certainly
there
are
when
we
pass
a
certain
date.
There
is
a
there's,
certainly
a
financial
penalty
that
we
incur
if
we
don't
get
our
budgets
approved
in
a
timely
manner.
So,
but
in
this
particular
case,
obviously
after
an
election,
we
were
a
little
later
than
normal
I.
That's
the
reason
why
we
approved
in
March,
of
course,.
C
But
my
question
is:
is
that
is
there
anything
stipulating
with
financial
prudence?
That's
where
I'm
coming
from
in
my
questions
here
that
we
have
to
approve
a
budget
before
the
province
of
Ontario
proves
their
budget.
R
Through
the
speaker,
I
mean
that's
normally
the
case
and
that
we
do
approve
hours
before
the
province
approves
theirs
and
and,
as
I
think
indicated
earlier.
Typically,
we
have
some
sense
of
where
the
province
is
going
with
their
their
programs
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
we
should
be
factoring
those
concerns
into
our
budget.
I.
C
C
R
I
mean
we
are
dealing
with
different
fiscal
years.
There's
there's
not
much
different
there
not
much
debate
about
that,
but,
as
I
say,
I
think
in
the
past
we
haven't
had
too
many
of
these
circumstances
arise
like
the
one
that
we're
dealing
with
right
now
so
and
we've
relied
on.
Some
Curren
is
from
our
counterparts
when
we
do
set
our
budget,
so
it
certainly
has
worked
in
the
past,
but
you
know
the
argument
was
made
that
we
should
be
on
the
same
fiscal
cycles.
It
could
help
address
these
kinds
of
future
problems.
C
C
R
So
we
have
I
mean
we
have
accounts
that
that
set
the
amounts
of
that
we
do
allocate
for
advertisings
and
works
of
this
nature.
I,
don't
see
this
as
being
a
overly
expensive
endeavor,
to
be
quite
honest,
I
think
we're
we're
talking
thousands
of
dollars,
certainly
not
you
know,
hundreds
of
thousands
or
anything
more
extraordinary
so,
but
to
have
an
exact
figure
right
now.
I,
don't
have
one
for
you.
Okay,.
C
C
Mr.
mayor,
in
your
opening
comment-
and
it
was
kind
of
conflicting
even
just
on
the
floor
council,
you
said
that
you
made
multiple
invitations
to
see
a
trial
made
multiple
invitations
to
the
province
of
Ontario
to
have
conversations,
and
they
have
not
welcomed
that
invitation.
I
have
heard
on
multiple
times
on
this
council
floor
from
city
staff,
already
that
there
is
conversations
happening
with
the
problem.
Ontario
and
specifically
your
office.
D
This
long
list
of
cutbacks
that
have
been
made
there
have
been
discussions,
but,
as
my
understanding
of
the
amount
of
speaker
is
that
the
discussions
say
between
the
medical
officer
of
Health
and
her
counterpart
provincially,
which
have
been
subject
to
some
confidentiality,
have
not
sort
of
focused
in
on
saying
well,
let's
sit
down
together
and
review
these
cuts
and
see
if
we
can
find
a
different
way
to
do
this
that
doesn't
affect
our
programs.
I
can
certainly
tell
you
with
respect
to
things
like
the
gas
tax.
D
D
Furthermore,
I
think,
as
you
know,
through
you,
madam
Speaker
I
have
said
that
taking
a
bit
of
a
leap
of
faith
here
that
that
we
would
bring
our
books
to
the
table
and
say
fine.
If
you
want
to
sit
down
and
go
line
by
line
through
public
health,
we're
willing
to
do
that
and
defend
these
programs
as
being
well
administered
and
much
it
much
needed
by
the
people
of
Toronto.
D
G
T
G
T
Programs
and
services,
the
bulk
of
voters,
fee
subsidies,
those
are
supports
to
families
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
who
can't
afford
the
full
cost
of
child
care,
as
well
as
supporting
children
who
are
in
childcare
programs
with
extra
support
needs
that
need
some
support
to
maintain
their
their
placement,
as
well
as
a
capacity
building
within
the
system
and
quality.
Okay.
G
T
This
would
be
families
with
children
with
a
variety
of
special
needs,
whether
it
be
children
on
the
autism
spectrum,
physical
disabilities
and
certainly
medically
fragile
children
whose
families
need
to
go
to
work
and
whose
children
has
special
needs
a
need
to
be
supported.
So
we
have
staff
that
go
out
and
go
to
every
single
child
care
program
with
a
child
with
special
needs
and
support
the
staff
and
building
their
techniques
to
support
that
child,
so
that
child
doesn't
have
to
remain
at
home.
Thank.
G
G
T
G
G
Administration,
that's
17
percent,
only
seventeen
percent
of
the
total
that's
correct,
total
reduction.
Yet
it's
been
repeated
that
it's
largely
administrative,
that's
right!
So
I
can
I
get
just
to
be
clear.
The
fee
subsidy
program
that
the
province
that
the
province
is
implementing
and
where
the
service
delivery
agency
there's
a
requirement
for
administrative,
that's
outlined
in
regulation.
It's.
T
T
G
T
G
G
G
T
M
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
have
a
health
question
and
some
child
care
questions
in
the
public
health
budget.
You
you
highlight
three
of
the
hundred
percent
funded
programs,
healthy
smiles,
infectious
disease
control
and
smoke-free.
There
are
some
other
smaller
price
tag,
ones
in
the
main.
If
a
program
is
a
hundred
percent
funded,
can
we
assume
it's
because
it
was
something
that
the
province
was
mandating
itself
to
do?
They
asked
us
to
deliver
this
program
on
their
behalf,
so.
Q
The
speaker,
that's
not
the
understanding
that
I
have
from
the
province.
What
we
have
been
told
so
far
to
date
is
that
the
funding
arrangement
for
the
program
has
changed
and
that
any
changes
in
respect
of
the
mandate
have
yet
to
be
discussed.
We
have
not
heard
any
if
ik,
information
or
advice
that
our
programs
have
changed.
In
fact,
to
the
contrary,
we
have
been
told
that
we
should
continue
to
maintain
the
current
level
of
service,
and
there
is
an
expectation
that
that
would
be
the
case,
but.
M
They're,
making
a
really
fundamental
policy
change,
aren't
they
something
is
as
important
and
preventative
health
as
infectious
disease
control
I
would
I
would
assume
their
funding
at
a
hundred
percent
because
they
see
it
as
as
a
health
care
thing,
a
something
that's
a
you
know.
Health
care
we
see
it
in
Canada
is
something
that's
wealth
redistributed,
and
so
we
take
it
from
income
tax
you're,
making
a
big
change
here
in
saying
property
tax
should
now
fund
a
really
important
component
of
health
care.
So.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
my
understanding
is
that
those
particular
envelopes
of
funding
were
provided
in
the
post,
SARS
post
Walkerton
right
in
recognition
of
the
challenges
that
those
kinds
of
infectious
diseases
present
to
communities
and
in
recognition
of
the
fact
that
infectious
diseases
tend
not
to
respect
municipal
borders.
So.
M
Q
M
And
if
I
can
move
to
child
care,
a
similar
thing
could
be
said
in
child
care
in
in
in
achieving
certain
goals
within
the
child
care
system
province
wide
in
in
mitigating
some
policy,
changes
that
might
affect
child
care,
may
100%
funded
it.
We
didn't
say,
hey
we're
having
trouble
affording
this.
Can
you
start
finding
it
a
hundred
percent?
They
asked
us
to
deliver
on
on
something
that
they
knew
was
important
to
the
system
and-
and
we
said
yes,
we
will
do
that,
for
you
is
that
is
that
the
scenario
through.
M
M
There's
a
small
price
tag,
one
in
the
report:
I'm
not
sure
who
can
answer
this
because
I
think
it
gets
dispersed
by
Tess
I'm
talking
about
the
transition
child
benefit,
but
I'm
wondering
if
somebody
could
explain
that
22
million
is
what
we
put
out.
I.
Think
I
might
need
a
pause,
madam
Speaker,
to
find
somebody
who
can
answer
trivia
questions
about
the
transition
child
benefit.
M
Hello,
mr.
Novik
gradski
transition
child
benefit.
I
am
wondering
if
we
can
get
at
the
the
damage
of
not
talking
to
us
before
doing
this.
In
this
one
we
send
out,
on
their
behalf
twenty
two
million
dollars
to
people
who
need
that
transition
child
benefit,
but
we're
only
serving
the
clients
who
need
it
within
the
O
W
realm
is
its
provincial
caseworkers
who
deal
with
ODSP
through.
M
So
is
this
the
danger
of
not
coming
to
us
first
and
talking
to
us
at
the
right
time?
Is
it
possible
that
far
more
people
end
up
in
this
circumstance
of
needing
the
transition
benefit
as
a
result
of
suddenly
ending
up
on
O
W
than
a
parent?
Who
is
ODSP
and
might
well
have
been
ODSP
before
even
having
a
child
or
we
are,
we
dispersing
the
lion's
share
for
them,
and
no
one
thought
to
ask
mrs.
C
A
A
T
A
Take
so
really,
it
would
be
upwards
of
5,000
families
and
so
many
lone
parents.
Yes,
that
would
be
affected,
and
this
is
how
is
that
going
to
affect
childcare
centers
in
general,
now
there's
some
childcare
centers
that
may
have
more
subsidies
than
others,
and
some
have
more
full
feed
paying
parents
than
subsidies.
So
this
will
disproportionately
affect
those
centers
that
have
more
subsidized
children.
Would
that
be
correct?
That
is.
A
This
really
has
to
do
with
moms,
mostly
what
you're
saying
single
family
that
are
lone
parents
who
have
their
children
in
child
care.
So
they
can
work
and
they
get
a
subsidy,
so
they're
not
paying
all
of
their
salaries
out
that
they
will
be
inversely
hit
with
this,
and
then
that
will
affect
the
childcare
centers
in
the
poorer
areas
of
Toronto,
which
the
subsidies
have
gone
to
assist
those
those
basically
single
family
loan
parents
in
those
areas.
A
E
A
A
A
Q
A
You
know
just
asked
the
city
manager,
someone,
we've
heard
nothing
about
any
cuts
to
student
nutrition
through
the
ministry
that
delivers
those
dollars
to
our
foundations,
nothing
through
the
speaker,
no,
not
so.
That
seems
at
least
to
be
stable.
Okay,
that's
good,
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
to
the
childcare
for
a
second,
then.
T
Cautiously
say
yes,
however,
in
those
areas
where
those
centers
rely
heavily
on
fee
subsidies,
those
are
areas
of
the
city
where
families
can't
afford
to
pay,
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
families
in
those
areas
that
would
access
those
centers
that
could
pay.
So
you
could
increase
those
fees,
but
the
full
fee
families
may
not
be
in
that
neighborhood.
Yes,
well.
This
might.
A
A
T
Question
at
this
point
in
time,
we
have
what's
called
child
care
forums
where
all
child
care
agency
service
providers
can
attend
and
we're
doing
an
information
session
from
there.
Well
at
this
point
in
time,
these
are
high
level
assumptions
and
we
do
not
have
the
guidelines.
We
don't
have
a
contract
from
the
province.
Nor
do
we
have
the
guidelines
that
stipulate
the
conditions
in
which
these
programs
can
then
be
administered.
This
thick
6000
could
be
higher
or
it
could
be
lower,
so
we're
just
going
to
wait
until
we
get
the
guidelines.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you
very
much
with
the
6166
potential
subsidies
at
risks
in
the
thirteen
thousand
families
on
the
wait
list
for
fourth
additional
subsidies.
My
math
is
correct.
If
you
can,
if
you
can
help
me
out
that
we
have
approximately
over
19,000
families,
that
will
be
directly
impacted
by
this
decision
from
the
province.
Is
that
correct
through
the
speaker?
Yes,
that's,
correct,
and,
and
so
those
19,000
families
will
there
be
other
alternatives
like
this?
Do
they
call
upon
their
families?
P
T
P
T
T
P
P
You
very
much-
and
my
next
question
is
the
medical
officer
of
Health
with
respect
to
the
primary
users
of
health
care,
public
health
care
services.
I
know
that
there's
a
number
of
programs
that
that
are
offered
that
are
specifically
targeting
women
who
are
expecting
children
and,
of
course,
the
children
themselves,
who
are
the
primary
users
and
benefits
of
benefactors
of
public
health.
So.
Q
Through
the
speaker
for
many
of
our
programs,
given
that
one
of
our
fundamental
objectives
is
to
reduce
disparities
in
health
status
that
exists
in
our
population,
many
of
our
programs
are
directed
towards
those
who
are
more
vulnerable.
Those
who
are
more
marginalized,
those
who
are
socioeconomically
challenged
in
our
city
and
oftentimes.
Q
P
Indeed,
it
would,
and
with
respect
to
changes,
if
I
can
just
ask
them
questions
about
the
social
assistance
programs
and
changes
to
social
assistance.
Just
because
it's
contained
in
the
report,
primarily
who
are
the
the
low-income
vulnerable
individuals
in
Ontario
who
are
who
are
relying
on
ODS
B,
who
rely
on
social
assistance,
who
would
be
generally
impacted.
C
So
through
the
speaker,
the
individuals
who
would
be
primarily
impacted
by
the
proposed
elimination
of
the
transition
child
benefit
would
be
either
refugee.
Claimants
who've,
been
in
Canada
for
18
months
or
less
or
individuals
who,
in
a
prior
tax
year,
would
have
had
an
income
which
rendered
them
ineligible
for
the
Ontario
child
benefit
and.
P
C
P
You
very
much
with
respect
to
cuts
to
legal
aid.
Ontario
and
I
recognize
that
this
is
not
necessarily
directed
at
the
City
of
Toronto,
but
there
will
be
some
absorption
of
services
that
we
will
have
to
provide
because
residents
can't
get
them
through
the
legal
aid
clinics
and,
right
now
in
the
report,
it
says
that
we
will
see
about
a
hundred
and
sixty
four
million
dollars
cut
from
legal
aid
Ontario.
We
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
legal
aid
clinics
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
who
are
the
primary
users
of
those
legal
aid
services.
P
Q
P
And
because
the
because
most
of
the
the
low
income
wage
earners
on
many
of
the
people
who
are
living
below
the
poverty
line
are
racialized
are
obviously
poor
and
it's,
as
would
it
be
safe
to
say
that
there
again
there's
a
disproportionate
impact
on
women,
and
especially
perhaps
single
mother,
led
households.
That
was
your
last
question.
L
Q
Through
the
speaker,
we
can
I
can
tell
you
at
a
very
high
level
with
respect
to
infectious
diseases.
It's
everything
from
detection
to
treatment
in
case
and
contact
follow-up,
but
for
details,
I'm
going
to
refer
to
my
colleague,
dr.
Michael
Finkelstein
he's
in
charge
of
our
communicable
disease
control
area.
Thank.
J
E
L
Q
Through
the
speaker,
you're,
absolutely
correct
and
again
there's
the
glue
that
holds
this
all
together.
There
has
to
be
relationship
existing
between
the
various
players,
whether
we're
talking
about
those
that
are
in
the
public
health
shop
or
those
they're
in
the
healthcare
system,
plus
the
communications
infrastructure,
to
inform
the
public
of
the
risk
that
exists
and
how
best
they
can
manage
it
and.
L
Q
L
L
L
L
L
Never
free
so
it
would
be
fair
to
say
that
if
we
tried
to
take
a
hundred
and
eighty
million
dollars
out
of
our
budget,
it
would
cost
us.
You
know
I'm
using
ballpark
numbers
at
least
three
hundred
and
sixty
million.
If
we
try
to
do
it
halfway
through
the
year
with
all
these
other
costs
associated.
So.
R
Through
the
speaker,
I
think
you
know,
if
direct
it
to
report
back
as
to
how
we
might
approach
this
I
would
fully
expect
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
dollar-for-dollar
type
of
report.
We
will
be
identifying
the
larger
costs
that
are
incurred
just
to
achieve
180
million.
That's
being
discussed.
Thank.
L
Dee
I
guess
this
is
the
deputy
city
manager.
So
with
a
counselor
Ford
was
earlier
asking
questions
about
how
you
know
a
whole
lot
of
money
comes
from
the
from
the
province
for
our
budget,
taking
ODSP
and
owf
as
an
example
that
money
comes
and
then
it
just
flows
right
back
out.
We
don't
act,
you
know
it's
not
something.
We
have
any
discretion
over.
I
L
L
L
N
Madam
Speaker
I'd
like
to
ask
the
city
manager
a
couple
of
questions
in
terms
of
the
figure
of
cuts
where
the
the
total
seems
to
be
in
a
bug
to
the
180
million
dollar
range.
Does
that
include
the
cost
to
the
city
in
the
reduction
of
development
charges
that
developers
will
have
to
pay
as
a
result
of
bill
108?
N
N
N
N
Do
we
have
the
ability
and
I
know
you're
going
to
be
asked
to
do
this
in
the
motion?
Do
you
have
the
ability
to
know
how
many
dollars
truant
onehans
pay
to
the
province
every
day
in
HST,
provincial
income
tax,
small
business
pays
and
tax?
Can
we
itemized
those
dollars
that
flow
from
the
pockets
of
Torontonians
every
day
into
the
provincial
coffers,
so
through.
R
The
speaker,
we
can
certainly
look
into
that,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
tantos
census
metropolitan
area,
which
is
it
goes
beyond
the
Toronto
boundary
from
a
GDD
GDP
perspective,
is
almost
equivalent
to
Alberta
almost
equivalent
to
Quebec
in
terms
of
the
taxes
it
generates.
So
we
are
a
tax
giver
as
opposed
to
a
benefit
taker.
When
you
look
at
the
two
numbers,
so
we've
been
contributing
to
the
country
to
the
province
significantly
for
a
very
very
long
time.
So.
N
The
money
that
we
get
from
our
benevolent
provincial
government
basically
is
our
money,
that
is
the
money
of
Torontonians
who
work
hard,
pay
taxes
HST.
They
pay.
You
know
tax
for
liquor
for
gas,
all
that
money
goes
to
the
province
and
comes
back
to
us
in
their
benevolence
to
help
pay
for
services
a
very,
very
small
amount.
That
comes
back,
so
we
can
hopefully
get
that
the
other
thing
you
know
this
emphasis
has
been
on
the
Board
of
Health
and
other
critical
services.
N
We
provide
given
the
size
and
scale
of
these
cuts
and
the
timing
of
these
cuts.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
the
Board
of
Health
Services
and
those
the
people
who
work
in
those
areas
are
going
to
feel
these
cuts
that
it's
going
to
have
to
be
police
fire
everybody's
gonna
have
to
share
the
pain.
It's
not
just
well.
Some
people
say
to
me
well
Board
of
Health.
You
know
we
can
deal
with
that
and
they're.
N
Just
the
Board
of
Health
I
said:
oh
yeah,
okay,
Board
of
Health
yeah,
but
you
know
this
kind
of
money.
We're
gonna
have
to
look
at
all
the
budgets,
Parks
and
Recreation.
We're
gonna
have
to
look
at
Public
Works
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
police
fire
that
you're
also
baby
gonna,
be
feeling
the
cut
as
much
as
the
people
who
work
and
provide
the
services
in
child
care.
Board
of
Health
am
I
not
right
through
the
speaker,
I
think
you're
correct
the
last
thing.
N
As
you
know,
one
of
my
favorite
things
is
transparency
in
your
tax
bill.
When
you
get
that
tax
bill,
I
hope,
whatever
impact
ends
up
befalling
us,
that
we
have
a
line
on
that
tax
bill
says
the
provincial
governments
cut
tax
levy
that
you
have
to
pay,
so,
in
other
words,
if
we
end
up
having
to
cut
or
add
more
taxes
to
people
on
there,
probably
can
we
put
a
line
in
the
budget
which
outlines
the
amount
of
money
in
property
taxes.
N
F
Dr.
Davila,
your
report
from
May
13th
has
a
number
of
figures
in
it.
I
guess
the
most
important
one
that
stands
out
to
me
is
a
65
million
dollar
cut
to
the
2019
budget
or
or
a
loss
of
revenue.
I
guess
is
the
better
way
to
put
that
I'm.
Just
trying
to
understand
attachment
number
one.
Can
you
explain
to
me:
are
these
all
of
the
services
that
we
are
mandated
to
deliver
according
to
the
laws
and
regulations
and
requirements
of
the
province,
so.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
what's
required,
of
local
public
health
is
articulated
in
legislation
and
is
articulated
in
the
Ontario
public
health
standards.
What
you
have
here
is
a
list
of
the
programs
that
are
currently
funded
through
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care,
but
it's
not
the
toy.
Some
of
all
the
programs
offered
by
Toronto
Public
Health,
as
required
by
the
standards
so.
Q
The
way
that
we
looked
at
trying
to
characterize
and
explain
to
council
the
funding
cuts,
we
looked
at
the
total
funding
envelope,
such
as
it
exists
currently,
and
we
basically
implemented
the
changes.
So
there's
a
component
of
the
budget
that
has
traditionally
been
75,
25,
75,
provincial
25
percent
municipal
funded
and
a
component
of
the
budget,
which
has
traditionally
been
a
hundred
percent
provincial
that
75
25
component.
Q
We
were
advised
by
the
provincial
government
that
it
was
going
to
a
60/40
split,
effective,
April
1st,
and
we
were
also
advised
that
that
6040
split
would
also
apply
to
the
hundred
percent
provincially
funded
and
through
the
calculations
based
on
the
total
funding
envelope.
That's
how
we
came
up
with
the
65
million
dollars
in
reductions,
so
I.
F
Did
some
quick
addition
I
hope
I
got
it
right,
but
the
total
programs
on
this
report
from
yesterday
is
a
hundred
and
eighty
million
dollars.
That's
the
total
package
and
the
current
provincial
funding
is
a
hundred
and
forty
million
dollars.
So
how
did
you
is?
Is
the
65
derived
under
the
one
hundred
and
forty
million
dollars,
or
is
there
something
else?
That's
not
on
this
report
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
all
the
pieces
in
this
and
what
it
means.
So
there.
Q
Are
pieces:
this
is
about
the
actual
programs
and
services
that
are
delivered
towards
the
public,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
through
the
speaker
to
in
order
to
address
an
earlier
question.
There
are
some
support
services
that
are
also
funded.
Those
are
not
included
here,
support
services
that
effectively
make
those
programs
and
services
deliverable.
However,
the
65
million
is
in
respect
of
the
reductions
overall,
given
the
funding
changes
proposed
by
the
provincial
government,
so.
F
I've
got
on
my
computer
screen
here:
I've
got
a
budget
submission
from
Toronto,
Public,
Health
and
I.
Suppose
what
I'm
struggling
to
do
is
what
we've
gotten
the
report
and
what
we've
heard
today
at
Council
with
the
total
package
of
the
budget
submission
it
says
here,
the
provincial
subsidies
are
a
hundred
and
eighty
three
point:
five
million.
At
least
that
was
what
was
recommended
in
the
budget
going
back
to
the
65
million.
How
does
the
65
million
relate
to
the
183
and
how
does
that
183
relate
to
what's
in
your
report?
So.
Q
Through
the
speaker,
there
are
provincial
subsidies
that
are
provided
through
Toronto
Public
Health,
some
of
which
come
from
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care,
some
of
which
come
from
the
Ministry
of
Children
and
community
and
Social
Services.
So
when
our
total
budget
submission
is
put
together,
provincial
subsidies
include
not
just
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care
funding
dollars,
but
those
from
MCC
SS
as
well.
The
65,
if
I
may,
through
the
speaker,
relate
solely
to
the
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care
funding
envelope.
So.
F
Q
We
do
have
a
number
of
other
programs
that
are
funded
through
the
Ministry
of
Children
community
and
social
services,
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
flavour,
preschool
speech
and
language
program
or
infant
hearing
program,
our
healthy
babies,
healthy
children
program-
and
these
are
just
a
few.
There
are
a
few
more
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
you
with
a
complete
list.
What.
F
Would
it
take
to
get
a
column,
an
extra
column
on
this
report
that
would
show
the
net
impact
of
the
funding
changes
or
could
I
just
do
that
calculated
by
hand,
and
then
what
would
it
take
to
get
some
additional
lines
so
that
I
could
see
the
complete
picture
of
how
65
million
squares
up
to
your
budget
submission
squares
up
to
this
and
then
overlay?
So
what
are
the
mandatory
services
that
were
required
to
deliver
in
law
versus
ones
that
may
be
other
service
levels?
That
council
may
have
more
discretion
over
was.
Q
Your
last
question
so,
through
the
speaker,
I'm
sure,
we'd
be
very
happy
to
work
with
you
to
provide
the
details
that
you're
looking
for
I
would
just
remind
you
that
remind
the
council
that,
in
fact,
remember
there
are
parts
of
the
budget
that
are
Ministry
of
Health
and
long-term
care
funded.
There
are
elements
that
are
Ministry
of
Children
and
community
and
social
services
funded.
They
are
separated,
but
we're
happy
to
put
them
to
together
and
the
numbers
do
line
up.
Thank
You.
L
Yeah
I
don't
know
who
who
dies
to
actually
ask
the
question
of,
but
I
guess
my
first
question
and
I
apologize.
If
these
have
been
asked
already.
Has
this
ever
been
done?
This
way
before,
like
ie
were
like
four
or
five
months
into
the
year,
and-
and
you
know
the
provincial
government
says
to
us
by
the
way
you
know
that
those
programs-
you
were
running
well
when
I
or
you
know
you-
you
thought
you
were
going
to
get
X
number
of
dollars
from
us,
but
now
you're
going
to
get
less
retroactively.
L
I
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
The
2.4
billion,
so
when
we
established
our
operating
budget,
you
know
last
month
or
I,
think
it
was
last
month
right.
We
basically
included
in
that
budget
2.4
billion
dollars
in
in
total
expectations
of
monies
that
we
would
essentially
begin
receiving
from
from
the
provincial
government.
That's
correct.
L
L
L
L
R
I
mean
to
be,
you
know
again,
I
think
we've
said
it
and
I.
This
came
without
a
lot
of
warning,
and
this
is
an
unprecedented
step
that
has
been
taken
as
to
why
it's
been
taken,
I'm,
not
going
to
speculate
as
to
what
the
total
rationale
was.
But
the
bottom
line
is:
is
that
at
this
point
in
time
to
not
just
find
the
savings
but
to
address
the
challenges
is
going
to
have?
You
know
substantial
effect
on
a
number
of
people
who
rely
on
these
subsidies?
R
You
know
to
look
after
their
children
to
look
after
our
their
health,
and
so
we
are,
you
know
if
directed.
Obviously,
we
will
come
back
and
not
just
speak
to
the
financial
consequences
of
this
and
how
to
manage
it
to
the
extent
you
can,
but
also
speak
to
the
you
know,
the
detrimental
effects
that
this
will
create
in
the
lives
of
many
of
the
people
that
live
in
this
community.
Hey.
B
B
We've
read
through
the
press
into
reports
that
you're
gonna
be
in
a
shortfall
of
3.8
million.
Close
to
four
million.
Would
I
be
correct
in
that,
sir?
Through
the
speaker?
Yes,
you
are
correct.
Can
you
tell
us
if
this
is
gonna
be
impacting
you
in
in
the
first
year
second
year,
third
year
or
fourth
year
of
operation,
so
how?
How
far
are
they
looking
to
carry
this
over
through.
J
B
B
J
I
B
J
Through
the
speaker
this
year
we
were
not
adding
any
additional
paramedics,
so
this
pressure
will
impact
our
ability
to
backfill,
so
it
will
reduce
our
ability
to
backfill
in
a
way
we'll
experience
more
overtime
pressures
to
fill
those.
So
there's
since
there's
no
new
additional
ambulances
on
the
street
from
paramedics
this
year,
it
will
impact
service
delivery
for
sure.
So.
B
J
B
J
B
B
D
D
He
said
it
was
without
much
warning.
Well,
he
makes
himself
the
2019
champion
so
far
of
understatement.
In
that
regard
he
could
be.
He
could
be
usurped
from
that
role
before
long.
You
never
know
around
here,
but
without
warning
I
mean
it
was
done
retroactively,
Lee
and
I.
Think
that's
important,
but
without
warning
isn't
understand,
I
mean
we
got
literally.
Even
it
wasn't
even
disclosed
in
the
budget
address.
D
So
we
had
to
wait
to
get
these
kind
of
unannounced
emails,
some
of
them
coming
on
the
eve
of
holiday
weekends
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
not
fair.
Our
business
like
either-
and
that
is
why
I
draw
your
attention
to
paragraph
2
of
this
motion,
which
restates
our
willingness
to
sit
down
with
the
government
and
maybe
start
over
on
the
basis
that
we
will
acknowledge,
as
I
have
done
repeatedly.
D
Others
here
have
as
well
that
they
have
some
financial
issues
to
deal
with,
acknowledge
that
you
can
always
find
more
efficiencies
in
the
way
you
do
things
always,
but
that
you
have
to
do
it
together.
You
have
to
do
it
together.
You
have
to
sit
down
and
go
through
line
by
line
and
program
by
program
and
responsibility
by
responsibility
and
find
a
way
to
do
that.
That
is
not
going
to
impose
the
kind
of
burden
that
these
cuts
done.
This
way
at
this
time,
we'll
have
on
the
residents
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
D
There
are
people
without
our
assistance
who
cannot
go
to
work,
who
want
to
work,
which
I
think
is
important
in
and
of
itself,
but
who
I
think
it
is
to
our
benefit
to
have
them
working,
not
to
mention
to
the
benefit
of
their
own
families,
and
when
you
have
literally
people
in
the
city
of
Toronto,
who
will
say
because
of
a
government
policy
imposed
by
this
government
that
they
can't
afford
to
work.
That's
a
very
sad
statement.
D
You
know
we
should
want
people
to
want
to
work
if
they
want
to
work
and
be
able
to
find
a
job,
which
is
our
task
in
creating
a
healthy
economy,
but
also
to
give
them
the
support
they
might
need
in
order
to
work
I
go
down
to
from
there,
which
is
the
related
to
the
potential
economic
loss
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
From
from
the
an
epidemic
I
mean
we
saw
and
again
the
human
side
of
this
was
more
important
than
the
economic
side.
D
We
lost
44
lives
in
SARS
and
many
others
were
ill,
but
we
also
saw
the
place
was
devastated.
Our
city,
we,
how
soon
we
forget
from
an
epidemic
that
the
no
tourists
came,
no
business
people
would
come.
There
were
warnings
issued.
You
shouldn't
come
here
and
it
took
us
years
to
recover
from
that
and
then
I
go
on
from
there
to
the
tourism.
You
know:
well,
it
isn't
the
most
important
human
cost.
I
think
it's
the
one
that
makes
the
least
sense
of
all
the
cuts.
D
Frankly,
because
all
the
return,
all
the
financial
return
from
all
the
tourists
who
come
go
entirely
to
the
other
governments
and
not
to
us,
we
have
the
benefit
of
these
people
coming
to
our
cities.
We're
happy
that
our
restaurants
and
hotels
are
doing
well,
but
all
the
financial
benefit
goes
to
the
other
governments,
including
the
provincial
government.
They
would
get
way
more
back
from
tourists
who
come
here
than
the
9
million
they've
caught.
So
you
have
to
ask
yourself
why
in
heaven's
name,
would
they
cut
it?
Did
they
ask
anybody?
D
Was
there
any
discussion
about
the
business
case
for
this
and
then
the
final
point
I'll
make
because
I've
had
a
chance
to
speak
earlier
on
is,
is
the
inflow
and
outflow
of
tax
dollars?
I
tried
to
get
the
numbers
from
my
office?
Maybe
it's
on
my
phone
now
before
I
spoke,
but
the
bottom
line
is
that
here
it
is
here
that
that
we
have
billions
more
going
out
to
the
other
governments
and
I,
don't
even
object
to
that.
As
a
matter
of
principle,
Toronto
is
a
fortunate
City.
D
We're
doing
well
and
people
should
pay
their
share
and
we
want
to
support
other
parts
of
the
country,
other
parts
of
the
province
thanks
to
our
success,
but
the
notion
that
we
should
be
deemed
sort
of
an
appropriate
target
to
have
more
than
other
cities
in
the
province
taken
out
of
what
is
being
cut
here
is
nonsensical.
In
view
of
the
fact
we
send
billions
more
to
these
other
governments
and
and
frankly,
we
do
it
most
of
the
time
without
complaining,
but
we
wouldn't
expect
them
to
be
treated
more
harshly
than
other
cities
and
towns.
D
Then
they
are
treated
in
the
in
this
in
these
cutbacks.
That
is
also
a
very
objectionable
part
of
all
this,
so
I
hope
people
will
support
this
motion.
I
hope
we
will
have
a
good
display
of
solidarity
and
have
not
too
much
engineering
of
it.
I
respect
the
right
of
other
members
to
get
up
and
do
some
engineering,
madam
Speaker,
but
I
think
there's
a
message
here
and
a
suggestion
of
directions
and
latitudes.
We
give
to
the
city
manager
to
help
us
put
our
message
across
more
effectively.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
Speaker,
through
you
to
the
mayor,
it
was
interesting
to
hear
that
you
were
saying
that
we
are
a
target
in
the
City
of
Toronto
and
what
goes
to
other
cities,
but
this
is
not
something
new.
This
has
been
going
on
for
years.
So
my
question
to
the
mayor
is
the
following:
is
this
move
that
the
way
that
it's
come
so
fast
from
the
provincial
government
in
any
respect
reflecting
the
the
difficulties
between
us
and
them
I
mean?
Would
you
have
seen
it
if
there's
another
government?
D
Remember,
as
well
being
a
party
to
meetings
between
then
mayor
last
Minh
and
then
premier
Harris,
about
similar
downloading
that
took
place
and
I
was
actually
sort
of
an
intermediary
that
went
to
a
couple
of
those
meetings
to
try
and
secure
some
help
for
the
City
of
Toronto
with
the
mayor,
because
I
was
was
able
to
talk
to
both
of
those
people.
So
I
don't
think
it's
the
first
time
it's
happened.
D
You
know
that
to
me
is,
and
and
and
it
also
treated
Toronto,
at
least
in
one
area
more
harshly
than
any
other
city.
That
is
the
one
question
of
all
of
this
that
nobody
has
yet
answered.
There
are
some
vague
mumbling
about
economies
of
scale,
but
that's
a
ridiculous
assertion.
We
have
bigger
scale
problems
here
in
some
of
the
areas
that
have
been
cut
on
bigger
responsibilities
and
the
notion
we
can
achieve
a
lot
by
way
of
economy.
D
Scale,
I,
don't
think,
makes
sense,
so
I
think
the
harsher
treatment
of
Toronto
on
the
cost-sharing
is
inexcusable,
has
no
rationale
behind
it
and
maybe
that
one
you
can
suggest
had
certain
motives
behind
it.
I
haven't
done
that
because
I
just
say
it's
inexplicable
and
we
should
just
treat
Toronto
the
same
as
other
people
and
preferably
reverse
the
cuts.
So.
B
D
Have
not
heard
me,
madam
Speaker,
through
to
the
member,
engage
in
that
speculation
at
all.
First
of
all,
I
I,
I,
guess,
given
the
way
I
try
to
conduct
myself
in
politics,
I
find
it
inconceivable
that
anybody
could
you
know,
kind
of
make
public
policy
important,
crucial
public
policy
decisions
on
that
kind
of
a
basis
and
I
I.
Think
for
my
conversations,
even
with
this
premier,
that
I
don't
sense
that
that's
what
what
he's
doing
or
his
government
is
doing.
D
I
do
believe
that
some
of
these
cuts-
you
know,
came
from
as
I
have
said:
finance
Department
officials
just
taking
their
red
pencil
and
deciding
who's
going
to
notice
if
we
cut
65
million
out
of
public
health.
There
are
some
comments
that
get
made
in
the
in
the
in
the
cotton
thrust
of
legislative
debate.
That
you
know
suggests
that
there
are
other
motives
at
play,
but
I've
not
engaged
in
that
speculation.
D
I
wasn't
here
at
the
time
when,
when,
when
there
were
other
members
of
this
council
that
that
are
now
on
to
provincial
politics,
says
so,
I
just
don't
get
involved
in
that
I
just
really
want
to
see
us
sit
down
to
work
together
to
discuss
better
ways
to
achieve
efficiencies
together
and
stop
this
kind
of
unilateral
treatment
that
also
treats
Toronto
more
harshly.
So
when.
B
D
D
B
D
Madam
Speaker
I
have
said
before
that.
I
find
it
unfortunate
in
our
system
that
municipalities,
especially
this
one
with
its
size
and
sophistication
and
duly
elected,
very
healthy
municipal
democracy,
are
not
accorded
more
respect
in
terms
of
an
ability
to
make
decisions
on
our
own
about
photo
radar
being
returned
or
traffic
wardens.
Or
you
know
you
can
go
down
a
long
list.
I
find
that
nonsensical
in
2019,
based
on
a
document
written
in
1867.
It's
ridiculous,
but
I
also
understand
we're
not
likely
to
see
the
Constitution
amended
any
time
soon.
D
I
do
find
this
chapter,
which
involves
unilateral,
no
consultation,
retroactive
cuts
and
cuts
that
are
opposed
more
harshly
on
Toronto
than
anywhere
else
beyond
anything
that
you
could
imagine
in
terms
of
just
really
going
about
doing
something
that
is
going
to
extract
maximum
harm
from
us
and,
more
importantly,
from
us
I
don't
mean
us
in
the
sense
of
Council
I
mean
our
people
that
we
represent.
Who
I'll
conclude
on
this
note
are
the
very
same
people
they
represent
and
the
very
same
as,
as
they
often
point
out
the
same
taxpayers
the
same
one
taxpayer.
D
That's
why
I
think
it's
so
important?
We
get
the
message
across
to
the
MPPs,
who
also
represent
the
same
people.
We
do
that
this
is
not
the
right
way
to
go
about
this.
Let's
sit
down
if
we're
going
to
talk
efficiencies
and
have
that
conversation,
but
don't
do
it
unilaterally,
don't
do
it
retroactively
Lee
and
don't
treat
Toronto
more
harshly
than
you
treat
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
province
of
Ontario.
Thank.
P
P
D
Speaker
through
to
the
member
I
would
have.
No
objection
would
see
that
as
a
friendly
amendment,
because
I've
said
myself
in
commenting
on
these
changes
since
day,
one
that,
if
you
look
at
who's
going
to
get
the
dental
checkups,
you
know
of
necessity,
there
are
others
who
many
who
probably
receive
them,
who
go
to
a
dentist
already.
But
there
are
many
more
where
it's
even
more
crucially
important.
They
should
get
a
dental
checkup
through
public
health
because
they
don't
go
to
a
dentist
and
you
could
go
down
the
list
the
same
with
the
childcare
subsidies.
D
Obviously
I
mean
these
are
people
who
are,
you
know
less
in
a
position
to
look
after
their
own
child
care
expenses
and
get
some
help
from
us
and,
as
is
the
case
with
our
neighborhood
improvement
areas
and
so
on,
they
consist,
as
we
know,
disproportionately
of
people
who
are
from
different
racialized
groups
and
that
impact
obviously
is
falling
disproportionately
on
women.
So
I
would
find
that
to
be
a
friendly
amendment
and
I.
D
E
Thank
you
speaker,
and
let
me
begin
by
thanking
our
staff,
our
city
manager,
the
head
of
children,
services,
the
whole
team
at
Toronto,
Public
Health.
You
can
imagine
the
angst
that
spreads
within
the
civil
service,
not
only
because
people
are
wondering
about
their
day
to
day
lives
and
their
jobs,
but
because
of
the
programs
that
they
work
tirelessly
for
and
so
I
want
to.
Thank
them
and
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor.
E
E
We
are
the
largest
city
in
this
country
and
we
are
the
economic
engine
of
this
province
and
we
have
been
given
retroactive,
short-sighted
and
dangerous
cuts
amounting
to
a
hundred
and
seventy
eight
million
dollars,
which
put
not
only
the
health
but
the
prosperity
of
our
city
at
risk.
So
I'd
ask
you
to
consider
three
areas:
the
process,
the
programs
and
the
growing
opposition
consider
the
process
without
warning
and
without
notice
a
retroactive
cut
after
we
have
done
our
own
budget
and
a
cut
that
disproportionately
impacts
the
City
of
Toronto
on
public
health.
E
The
funding
chair
is
going
to
fifty-fifty
for
every
other
region.
It's
either
60/40
or
70/30.
On
what
basis
do
you
do
that?
None
have
been
provided
now?
It's
it's
not
a
stretch
to
say
that
Meritor
and
I.
We
don't
evoke
the
same
way
on
every
issue,
but
I.
Don't
think
anybody
would
dispute
that
our
mayor
is
at
all
times
deeply
reasonable
and
measured
when
the
mayor
of
our
city
refers
to
these
cuts
as
a
targeted
attack
on
on
your
city.
You
know
you've
got
it
wrong.
E
You
truly
do
because
I
know
how
how
serious
it
is
for
our
mayor
to
say
something
like
that,
because
it's
true
and
so
consider
the
programs
consider
the
programs
that
are
being
retro
actively
cut
childcare
for
low-income
households,
vaccination
programs
for
kids,
who
need
vaccines,
student,
breakfast
programs
for
kids,
who
need
a
healthy
meal,
TTC
repairs
to
keep
our
street
cars
and
our
buses
and
our
Subway's
running
on
time.
For
goodness,
sakes,
they've
even
cut
the
paramedics
budget.
E
So
not
only
are
you
cutting
the
programs
that
we
run
to
keep
truant
onehans
healthy,
but
you're
cutting
the
services
to
respond
to
people
when
they
get
sick.
It
is
vicious
in
its
design
and
so
consider
for
the
third.
The
opposition
consider
Toronto.
Public
Health
is
one
example.
15
boards
of
health,
from
Halliburton
to
Waterloo,
from
Thunder
Bay
to
Sarnia,
have
opposed
this.
The
28
mayors
of
the
largest
cities
in
Ontario
have
opposed
this.
They
represent
67%
of
the
population.
The
mayor
of
tweed
Ontario
opposes
this,
so
goes
tweed
so
goes
insert
the
rest.
E
The
Toronto
District
School
Board,
the
Toronto
Catholic
District
School
Board,
the
association
of
Catholic
trustees,
the
Ontario
Medical
Association,
the
nurses
Association,
the
pediatric
Society
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on,
all
of
whom
oppose
the
cuts.
Now
consider
for
a
moment.
Those
who
have
spoken
out
in
support
of
the
cuts-
everybody
premier
Ford
Minister
Eliot
and
a
dwindling
number
of
provincial
government
MP
piece.
E
That's
it
not
a
single
other
Association,
and
so
all
I'll
close
by
saying
that
yesterday,
the
premier
of
this
province
referred
to
public
health,
is
nothing
more
than
and
I
quote
a
bastion
of
lefties.
On
the
same
day,
the
Toronto
Public
Health
was
busy
stopping
a
potential
outbreak
of
measles.
That
work
was
referred
to
as
a
bastion
of
lefties
and
so
to
my
colleagues
and
to
the
provincial
government.
Measles
is
not
a
partisan
issue.
E
There
is
no
left
or
right
or
centrist
way
to
stop
the
outbreak
of
measles
there's
only
one
way
and
that's
with
preventive
public
health
work,
and
so
in
the
past,
when
this
government
has
got
it
wrong,
as
they
have
done,
whether
on
autism
or
the
Greenbelt
foundation,
or
cutting
not
planting
50
million
trees,
they
have
reversed
course,
and
so
it
is
now
time
for
us
to
come
together
as
team
Toronto
to
make
sure
they
reverse
course.
Here
again,
thank
you
very
much.
K
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
As
a
new
member
of
the
Board
of
Health
I
wanted
to
gain
a
better
understanding
of
some
of
the
programs
that
are
risk
by
this
cut
by
the
provincial
government.
So
last
Friday
I
went
on
a
tour
of
the
to
care
and
sexual
health
clinics
at
the
Scarborough
Civic
Center,
and
while
I
appreciate
that
these
are
just
two
of
the
many
programs
that
are
provided
by
public
health.
I
wanted
to
do
a
bit
of
a
deep
dive
into
what
I
learned
about
that
on
Friday.
K
Firstly,
I
was
so
impressed
by
how
the
doctors
and
the
dentists
at
the
clinics
do
so
much
with
so
very
little.
The
dentist
who
gave
the
tour
of
the
clinic
spoke
of
the
8,000
elementary
students
identified
each
year
in
schools
by
their
dental
screening
program.
Public
health
follows
up
with
the
parents
and
ensures
that
each
child
perceives
the
dental
care
they
need
for
their
different
dental
issues,
and
these
aren't
just
small
cavities.
In
many
cases
they
are
more
intensive
and
extensive
emergency
care.
K
Many
newcomers
with
no
coverage
are
also
treated
at
the
dental
clinic
during
the
sexual
health
clinic
tour.
They
discussed
the
important
services
they
provide,
including
testing
testing
for
sexually
transmitted
infections
and
low
cost
contraception.
Many
young,
Canadians
and
newcomers
aren't
comfortable
talking
to
the
parents
or
their
family
doctors
about
these
issues.
Furthermore,
they
pointed
out
to
me
that
the
Ontario
Medical
Association
has
estimates
that
more
than
50%
of
LGTBQ
patients
are
not
out
to
their
families,
so
there's
many
use
that
aren't
comfortable
talking
with
their
family
doctors.
K
The
clinic
provides
a
safe
place
for
youth
to
seek
treatment
and
prevention
advice.
Implementing
cuts
to
Toronto
Public
Health
is
irresponsible
and
puts
our
youth
and
our
most
vulnerable
at
risk.
The
prevention
and
the
early
detection
activities
of
Public
Health
yield
an
enormous
return
on
investment.
You
heard
the
chief
medical
officer
speak
earlier
that
91%
of
the
public
health
budget
is
spent
on
program
delivery.
Toronto
Council
needs
to
send
a
strong
message
today
that
cuts
to
any
of
these
programs
are
not
acceptable.
K
I'm
very
happy
today
to
support
meritorious
motion
that
he's
put
forward
and
I'm
very
hopeful
that
we'll
be
successful
with
the
reverse,
to
the
hundred
and
seventy
seven
point:
eight
five
million
dollars
of
unilateral
retroactive
cuts
that
have
been
put
upon
the
city
of
Toronto
in
the
20-19
budget,
including,
and
especially
those
to
Toronto
Public
Health.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
O
Very
much
madam
Speaker
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
staff
for
all
of
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
on
this
file
and
many
other
files.
It
seems
like
week
to
week,
month
to
month
down
here
in
this
chamber,
we
are
constantly
responding
to
direction
and
cuts
and
announcements
from
the
province
and
I
know
that
takes
a
tireless
and
tremendous
amount
of
work
on
the
staff
side.
So
I
am
grateful
for
that.
O
I
also
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
here
in
the
chamber
for
the
continual
representation
and
town
halls
and
petitions
and
transit
stop
meetings
that
many
of
you
been
engaging
on
on
this
important
issue.
Now
this
morning
we
heard
that
during
his
time
as
a
city
councilor,
the
premier,
the
now
premier
actually
outlined
the
devastating
impacts
of
these
provincial
cuts
and
described
the
City
of
Toronto
as
a
prudent
financial
manager.
I
would
have
to
say
I
agree
that
both
are
to
be
true.
O
177
million
dollar
cut
with
no
warning
truly
is
unprecedented,
and
this
is
this
is
almost
the
entire
amount
that
we
actually
allocate
to
our
poverty
reduction
and
well-being.
Here
in
the
City
of
Toronto
or
nearly
half
the
amount
of
the
308
million
we
have
allocated
for
enhanced
services
in
this
year's
budget.
Now,
as
you
know,
we
are
all
we
are
legislated
required
to
deliver
a
balanced
budget
as
a
municipality.
We
did
this
back
in
March
and
that
means,
unlike
the
province,
we
have
very
limited
options
for
carrying
debt.
O
So
at
this
point,
at
this
juncture
to
blow
177
million
dollar
hole
in
our
budget,
retro
actively
means
one
of
two
things:
one.
We
are
going
back
to
two
Torontonians
and
asking
them
to
raise
taxes
for
these
sort
of
cuts
coming
from
the
province
or
two
to
gut
the
vital
services
that
many
Torontonians
who
reddit
residents
are
relying
on
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
mayor's
motion
and
thankful
for
his
guidance
and
steer
through
this
difficult
time
and
I.
O
Think
as
a
council
here
we
are
united
in
pushing
back
against
the
province
and
standing
up
for
residents.
We
can
show
that
taking
money
away
from
Toronto
and
cutting
services
will
hurt
our
economy
and
hurt
our
prosperity,
not
just
as
a
city
but
in
fact,
as
a
province,
and
all
cuts
are
not
created
equally
in
Toronto's,
as
we've
heard,
as
we've
learned
are
being
done.
O
Above
and
beyond
other
municipalities,
we
will
always
be
in
a
precarious
position
as
a
city,
because
2.6
billion
dollars
of
our
tax
supported
operating
dollars
comes
from
other
levels
of
government
and
that's
why
this
motion
is
taking
the
right
approach
with
a
willingness
to
meet
and
discuss
these
retroactive
cuts,
but
also
pushing
back
and
fully
outlining
the
impacts
for
our
budget.
It's
also
why
we
need
to
find
efficiencies
wherever
possible.
O
It's
not
going
to
be
a
hundred
and
seventy
seven
million
dollars
retro
actively
in
the
five
months
into
our
budget,
but
we
do
need
to
find
ways
to
keep
our
own
budget
healthy
and
strong
and
with
strong
capital
reserves
and
clear
priorities.
That's
why
I
want
to
do
this
work
with
councillor
Crawford
and
my
colleagues
on
Budget
Committee
and
that's
the
place
and
the
forum
to
do
it.
As
our
city
manager
said
today,
we
have
a
budget
process
for
a
reason.
O
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
do
want
to
thank
that
the
staff
and
the
city
manager
for
bringing
this
report
to
us
and
the
manner
that
he
has
done
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
Every
year
I
when
the
budget
process
begins,
I
sit
down
with
the
mayor
and
we
have
a
discussion.
We
have
a
discussion,
of
course
on
the
priorities
of
city
council,
but
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
energy
on
figuring
out
ways
that
we
can
save
money
in
the
city.
G
We
figure
out
ways
that
we
can
provide
the
right
kind
of
services
to
the
residents
of
the
city
and
we
spend
an
inordinate
amount
of
time.
Looking
at
how
we
can
get
value
for
money,
we
have
those
same
discussions
with
the
city
manager,
the
deputy
city
managers,
financial
planning,
all
the
divisions,
all
the
agencies.
This
process
has
already
begun
for
the
2020
season
budget
season.
Well,
we
have
this
problem
of
179
million
dollars
that
has
been
sort
of
plunked
right
into
the
middle
of
that
that's
a
serious
problem.
G
We
have
to
figure
out
and
I,
don't
know
where
the
answer
is
based
on
what
I've
heard
so
far,
but
when
we're
looking
at
what
we've
achieved,
we've
achieved
significant
savings
in
City
Council.
Over
the
last
five
years,
we
have
been
prudent
managers.
We
have
been
successful,
as
the
mayor
has
stated,
a
keeping
taxes
a
little
bit
at
the
same
time
providing
the
right
kind
of
services
that
the
residents
of
this
city
require.
G
Now,
while
I
agree
that
it's
critical
for
those
efforts
to
continue,
we
need
to
sit
down
and
to
go
over
that
plan
moving
forward,
that's
underway.
We
should
not
be
spending
time
rehashing
what
else
we
can
be
doing
we're
halfway
through
a
year
and
to
stop
to
drop
retroactive
Lee
and
make
changes.
That's
not
good
governance
over
the
past
five
years
has
been
a
clear
commitment
to
action,
resulting
in
efficiencies
with
the
cities
and
agencies.
We
have
spent
a
lot
of
work
in
modernizing
our
efforts.
G
G
There
were
significant
increases
to
the
city
managers,
the
chief
financial
officer
and
the
Auditor
General's
budgets
to
ensure
that
they
can
find
the
kind
of
savings
that
we
need
and,
of
course,
the
budget
committee
supported
the
OTO
generator
receiving
the
increases
to
the
to
the
operating
budget
to
make
value
for
money.
Those
investments
have
brought
tangible
results,
and
we
see
that
in
in
the
in
in
the
today
and
tomorrow,
we'll
be
talking
about
that.
G
Those
tangible
results
that
the
Auditor
General
is
bringing
they
are
doing
their
work
when
you're
looking
at
and
work
needs
to
get
done.
Changes
absolutely
need
to
happen,
and
we
do
that
continuously,
but
to
do
it
in
the
fashion
that
we've
seen
dropping
it
on
us
having
to
make
that
decision
in
the
manner
we're
doing
retroactive.
Lee
from
my
perspective
is
not
good.
G
Are
there
opportunities
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
Board
of
Health
through
the
budget
process
there
are
and
I've
had
those
discussions
with
the
Board
of
Health
but
again
and
I
think
there's
opportunities
to
look
at
changes.
Potential
changes,
but
to
do
it
retroactively.
Lee
is
not
good.
Every
budget
and
every
budget
process
is
hard.
G
It's
challenging
and
it's
supposed
to
be
hard
and
it's
supposed
to
be
challenging,
but
it
needs
to
be
done
wisely
and
it
needs
to
be
done
with
a
plan
and
not
in
the
manner
that
is
happening
right
now
and
not
in
the
manner
that
it
could
potentially
happen,
which
is
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
reopening
up
the
budget
process
and
having
that
process
continue.
That
is
not
the
right
way
to
do
things.
G
The
retroactive
change
is
imposed
by
the
provincial
government,
I
think
are
wrong
and,
as
the
mayor
said,
I
hope
the
province
takes
us
seriously
and
sits
down
with
us
to
look
at
a
plan
moving
forward
because
I
think
there
is
the
willingness
at
council
to
look
at
a
plan
moving
forward.
We
have
been
doing
that
over
the
last
five
years,
we'll
be
continuing
to
do
that,
but
we
need
to
do
that
with
the
province
at
the
table.
Thank
you.
S
Want
to
begin
by
by
acknowledging
the
mayor
and
councillor
Cressy,
along
with
many
other
members
of
council,
but
I've
witnessed
truly
remarkable
leadership
at
a
critical
juncture
in
our
city's
history.
But
you
know:
I
come
to
council
with
a
both
a
sense
of
necessity
to
work
as
a
team
to
work
together.
As
Joe
said,
you
know,
I
call
it
team,
Toronto
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
it's
any
secret.
The
mayor
and
I
have
had
some
disagreements.
S
We
really
are
concerned
about
how
we're
going
to
be
providing
basic
health
services,
as,
as
Mike
said
earlier,
councillor
Cole.
We
are
only
learning
now
what
the
impacts
are
of
bill
108
on
our
ability
to
provide
basic
infrastructure
and
services
to
support
the
quality
of
life
in
every
neighbourhood.
Nurse
City
and
the
list
keeps
going
on
paramedics,
you
name
it
every
single
day.
There's
another
there's
another
cut,
there's
another
announcement
without
any
meaningful
consultation.
S
S
The
event
unilaterally
announced
that
they're
going
to
be
taking
over
our
subway
and
and
essentially
selling
off
the
lands
and
the
air
rights
and
a
fire
sale
to
fund
other
other
projects
and
other
municipalities,
and
they
say
that
we
have
a
negotiating
table
but
I,
don't
believe
that's
negotiating
table
I
believe
based
on
their
behavior,
but
that's
their
efforts
to
get
information
out
of
us
to
help
facilitate
their
end
goal.
It's
a
Trojan
horse
and
now
they're,
making
announcements
everyday
that
are
hurting
every
aspect
of
our
of
our
government.
S
I
believe
this
is
an
argument
for
a
charter.
You
know
the
mayor
I
think
rightfully
said
earlier,
that
there
isn't
a
quick
or
easy
path
towards
a
constitutional
change,
but
it
is
bizarre
that
a
that
a
major
city
like
Toronto
Canada's
largest,
is
governed
under
nineteenth-century
rules
in
the
21st
century
that,
as
the
mayor
said,
we
can't
even
deal
with
basic
traffic
regulations
without
going
and
begging
them
to
give
us
allowance
to
do
some
basic
things
in
our
streets.
Nevermind.
S
What
many
American
cities
have,
which
is,
they
have
purview
over
revenue,
they
have
purview
over
land
use
planning
and,
yes,
they
have
purview
over
their
own
elections.
I
believe
we
need
to
set
the
motion
forward
to
be
able
to
do
that,
because
I
know
this
government
isn't
going
to
agree
to
it.
But
if
we
can
campaign
together
for
a
better
government,
then
maybe
a
better
government
will
be
receptive
to
us.
I
know.
The
federal
government
that
we
have
today
would
be
they've
told
us
that,
and
we
would
not
need
to
involve
all
the
provinces.
S
We
wouldn't
need
the
ten
province.
We
would
simply
need
Ontario
to
be
on
board
and
a
receptive
federal
government
to
actually
become
not
just
in
rhetoric
but
genuinely
a
government
on
to
ourselves
and
to
have
Home
Rule.
That's
what
I
believe
our
future
needs
to
hold
right
now,
we're
in
this
kind
of
weird
position
to
call
ourselves
a
government.
S
What
Doug
Ford,
even
though
he
goes
out
there
in
this
populist
way
and
says
you
know,
tax
and
spend
tax
and
spend
tax
and
spend
this
is
even
worse.
His
government
is
about
taxing
cuts.
His
government
is
about
making
life
more
expensive
for
residents
and
decreasing
the
number
of
services
that
they're
providing
that's
unacceptable.
S
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Certainly
this.
What
is
happening
to
our
city
of
Toronto
is
something
that
is
extraordinary.
We
heard
the
mayor
say
that
this
has
happened
before,
but
not
with
such
a
degree
if
I
can
put
it
of
aggressiveness.
This
aggressiveness
is
something
that
we've
seen
other
governments
do
one
explore,
but
going
retroactive
or
something
that's
uncalled
for
and
certainly
impacts
and
hurts
a
lot
of
people.
I
want
to
talk
about
two
issues:
one
is
service
of
EMS
and
we
heard
from
the
chief
and
what
he
said.
B
This
is
going
to
impact
our
ability
to
respond
by
taking
the
length
of
time
that
it
takes
to
go
to
to
a
call
15
to
18
percent
longer.
That
is
totally
unacceptable.
That
could
be
something
which
could
be
a
threatening
to
a
life
and
death
situation
and
I
do
hope
that
if
that
call
comes
and
if
that
that
is
not
affected
people's
lives,
the
other
one
that
I'm
going
to
talk
about,
madam
Speaker,
is
something
that
we're
going
to
be
briefed
this
afternoon.
B
Our
schools
are
at
capacity.
We
have
build
new
schools
and
right
now,
there's
portables
at
the
back.
There
are
schools
that
are
busting
at
the
seams
and
their
schools
that
are
over
50
60
years
old
and
they
cannot
handle
the
the
extra
capacity
there's
one
school
matter
of
fact:
8
report
public
school,
which
is
located
in
midland
just
north
of
sheppard,
that
school
is
to
be
impacted
by
an
additional
eight
to
ten
thousand
doors.
That's
going
to
be
something
like
about
anywhere
between
a
thousand
to
fifteen
hundred
kids.
B
But
that's
not
the
way
to
do
it.
So
I
would
say
to
the
premier
that
if
you're
getting
pressure
from
the
developers,
you
got
to
realize
that
this
is
also
affecting
our
constituents,
but
farther
more
than
this,
I
think
the
the
the
elephant
in
the
room.
Try
can
put
it
as
such
is
the
discontent
and
of
the
premier
against
Mayor
John
Tory.
B
Yes,
in
2014
there
was
a
bitter
fight
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
one
individual
one
and
the
other
individual
now
that
holds
a
higher
office
might
want
to
say:
okay,
you
know
what
I
wanna
do
to
get
back
at
you,
but
he's
not
doing
it
only
to
get
back
at
the
City
of
Toronto
he's
doing
it
to
get
across
to
the
province
of
Toronto.
But
we
are
the
target
period
full
stop.
B
When
you
got
in
one
ward,
the
ability
to
lose
any
wish
between
150
to
200
million
dollars
in
section
37,
and
when
you
got
in
my
ward
vein,
ability
to
provide
schooling
for
the
kids
and
the
inability
to
provide
parts
and
other
facilities
for
our
kids,
I
think.
That's
call
us
and
I
believe
that
this
divisiveness,
and
this
back
and
forth
has
to
stop
so
my
advice
get
Aaron.
The
premiere
is
that
look
your
aggressiveness
and
your
division
and
all
that
stuff
stops
back
in
2014
moving
forward.