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City Council, meeting 6, April 17, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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B
Let's
see
you
now
there
we
are
good
morning,
madam
Speaker
and
good
morning
councillors.
It's
an
honor
for
me
to
stand.
I
hope
on
behalf
of
us
all
in
the
council
today
to
help
raise
awareness
about
the
importance
of
organ
donation
and
I.
Think
people
have
been
given
on
their
desk,
so
they're
supposed
to
have
been
green
ribbon
to
wear
today,
and
that
is
because
the
month
of
April
has
biggg
has
been
designated
as
be
a
donor
month
in
Ontario
and
I
know
that
most
of
us
support
saving
lives
through
organ
and
tissue
donation.
B
But
the
fact
is
that
not
just
this
microcosm
of
the
population,
but
in
the
population
as
a
whole,
only
a
minority
of
people
have
actually
taken
the
step
of
registering
themselves
so
as
to
indicate
their
willingness
to
be
donors.
I
know,
in
my
own
case,
until
a
few
years
ago,
I
hadn't
bothered
in
the
old
days
you
merely
had
to
fill
out
something
that
was
attached
to
your
driver's
license
and
I
had
done
that,
and
then
we
switched
to
the
permanent
driver's
license
and
there's
no
place
to
fill
out
a
form.
B
But
I
was
on
the
subway
one
day
and
got
off
at
st.
Clair,
and
there
was
a
table
there
where
they
were
setting
up
with
ahead
laptops
and
so
on
to
actually
register
you
talk
two
minutes
and
I
did
it
again.
I
mean
I
had
I
had
had
it
laughs
when
my
driver's
license
went
away
from
being
paper,
and
so
I
will
just
confirm
what
the
you
know.
B
Material
says
that
comes
from
the
organ
donation,
people,
which
is
that
it's
very
simple
to
register,
and
it
is
something
where
the
shortage
of
people
who've
registered,
causes
long
wait
lists
to
occur.
So
today,
as
we
speak,
1500
people
are
on
the
wait
list
for
a
life-saving
organ
transplant
and
350
of
those
are
from
Toronto.
So
these
are
our
constituents,
our
residents
350
them,
but
it
really
doesn't
matter.
B
The
other
ones
are
all
human
beings
who
live
with
us
here
in
Ontario
and,
as
you
know,
because
I'm
sure
we
all
have
constituents
and
friends
who
go
through
this.
Some
of
them
are
on
dialysis
for
years,
which
is
not
a
pleasant
experience
for
them,
and
you
know
looking
at
it
from
a
business
case
standpoint.
It's
not.
It
is
an
investment
of
considerable
resources
on
the
part
of
the
healthcare
system
to
help
them.
Other
people
are
waiting
for
new
lungs,
so
they
can
breathe
properly
again.
B
These
are
very
human
stories
that
relate
to
people
not
able
to
live
a
full
life
when
in
fact
we
can't
help
them.
We
can't
help
them.
These
are
like
preventable.
You
know
preventable
circumstances.
These
find
these
people
find
themselves
in
so
every
three
days.
Unfortunately,
somebody
dies
waiting
for
a
transplant.
There
are
the
heartwarming
stories,
I,
don't
know
if
you
read
a
Canadian
Press
story
carried
in
the
Toronto
Sun
this
morning.
B
But
again
it
was
a
Toronto
story
about
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
Muhammad
Khan
and
there
he
was
being
embraced
by
a
woman
by
the
name
of
Kelly
Bryant
and
they
were
complete
strangers
from
one
another
and
Mohammed
Khan
was
given
a
liver
transplant
by
Kelly
Brian,
who
came
forward
and
miss
mr.
Khan's
wife,
I.
Think
as
part
of
their
way
of
saying.
B
So
what
we
really
want
to
do
is
take
all
those
numbers
I
referred
to
before
the
waiting
list,
the
people
who
are
having
trouble
breathing
the
people
who
are
on
dialysis
down
as
close
to
zero
as
we
could
get
by
making
sure
more
people
become
donors
and
the
way
people
can
register
for
those
who
are
watching
and
for
those
of
us
who
can
help
through
our
platforms
that
we're
given
in
this
job
is
to
go
to
WWE
a
donor
CA.
It
takes
two
minutes.
B
They
say
that
it
can
help
save
up
to
8
lives
and
and
help
as
many
as
75
other
people
through
the
gift
of
various
tissues,
and
so
I
would
just
say
that
and
one
more
thing
to
mention
by
the
way.
One
of
the
reasons
why-
and
these
are
just
such
points
of
pride-
that
I
don't
think
we
focus
on
half
enough
in
this
city.
B
The
trial
General
Hospital
was
just
named
as
one
of
the
ten
best
hospitals
in
the
world
by
a
very
objective
survey
done
I
think
by
a
Newsweek
magazine,
one
of
the
best
ten
hospitals
in
the
world
right
here
in
Toronto.
It's
not
the
only
one
that
would
make
that
list
of
best
10
cancer
centers,
best
10
mental
health,
centers
and
so,
and
one
of
the
reasons
they're
in
that
rank
of
Excellence
is
because
of
their
particular
expertise
with
transplantation.
B
D
C
Speaker
we
have
a.
We
have
an
interesting
thing
that
has
happened
in
public
service
as
as
counselors
we
often
look
at
city
solicitor,
miss
Walberg
and
her
staff
has
all
those
lawyers
they're
always
making
sure
that
we
are
ethical,
but
they
sometimes
stand
in
the
way
of
the
things
we
want
to
do,
and
so
we
we
tend
to
take
them
for
granted.
C
C
She
has
been
awarded
the
J
Shirley
Dennison
award
by
the
Law
Society
of
Ontario
and
she's
been
given
it
for
a
really
lovely
reason,
she's
being
recognized
for
her
long-standing
commitment
to
Toronto's
most
vulnerable
residents
through
her
volunteer
efforts
with
the
Toronto
lawyers
feed
the
hungry
program.
She
has
volunteered
for
lawyers
and
and
has
actually
made
this
a
very
successful
organization.
She
spearheaded
their
fundraising
program
and
designed
it
in
a
model
such
that
they.
This
is
now
very
sustained
organization
and
can
do
great
work
for
Toronto's.
C
Most
vulnerable
I
know
that
that
is
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts.
We
adopt
policy
and
and
fun
programs
hoping
that
we
can
do
the
best,
but
these
efforts
are
what
really
make
so
many
organizations
able
to
really
get
through
and
break
through
and
save
lives,
and
so
I
hope
you'll
join
me
this
morning
and
thanking
Amanda
Ross
for
her
work
through
lawyers
feed
the
hungry
program.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
I
do
thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker.
As
the
peer
recognized
music
award,
the
Grammy,
which
started
with
the
National
Academy
of
Recording,
Arts
and
Sciences,
and
of
course
we
all
know
the
origin
of
the
word.
It
was
originally
the
gramophone
awards,
they're
considered
to
be
the
highest
industry
honor
among
musicians.
It
was
first
awarded
in
1959
in
2019.
Twenty
two
million
people
watch
the
ceremony
this
year
in
album
decades
in
the
making
was
created
by
Toronto
musicians
in
York
Center,
and
they
received
a
nomination.
D
Mr.
Anheuser,
who
is
here
with
us
today,
teamed
up
with
Junior
Juno,
award-winning,
vocalist,
Sophie
Millman,
and
an
incredible
team
of
musicians,
including
Isaac
Rosenberg,
a
student
at
William,
Lyon,
Mackenzie
King
in
North
York
to
perform
songs
originally
written
during
World
War,
two
by
women,
children
and
refugees.
The
songs
were
originally
collected
by
a
team
during
the
war,
but
shortly
afterward
that
team
was
arrested
during
Stalin's
anti-jewish
purge.
Their
work
was
confiscated
and
they
died.
Thinking
was
all
lost
to
history.
D
In
fact
it
it
remained
hidden
until
miss
Stern,
Heights
discovered
it
in
the
national
library
of
the
Ukraine.
Mr.
Heinz
had
the
choice
to
submit
her
name
to
the
Grammy
nomination
as
executive
producer
of
the
project
or
the
names
of
the,
and
she
decided
it's
the
musician
to
just
deserve
the
Grammy
nod.
So
she
is
not
officially
among
the
nominees
for
the
award.
A
You
so
members
of
council.
We
will
now
review
and
confirm
the
order
paper.
There
are
33
items
left
on
the
agenda.
Council
has
started
but
not
completed
the
mayor.
Second
key
matter:
item
ax
4.1
on
Toronto's
transit
expansion
program
updated
next
steps.
We
will
continue
that
debate
as
a
first
item
of
business
today,
yesterday,
council
decided
to
consider
item
pH
4.1.
The
final
report
on
Don
Mills
crossing
is
the
first
item
this
morning.
I
propose
that
council
consider
that
item
after
the
mayor's
key
item,
City
Council
will
consider
member
motions
at
2:00
p.m.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
morning,
page
5
members
motion
six
point,
six
point:
five,
which
is
my
motion.
I'm
asking
council
permission
to
withdraw
this
motion,
as
city
staff
have
provided
me
with
the
briefing
note
on
the
the
financial
impacts
on
the
carbon
tax
with
the
city
and
I'd
request
that
that
briefing
note
be
circulated
to
members
of
council.
So
they
know
how
how
expensive
the
carbon
tax
is
for
the
residents
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
Thank.
A
A
I
Morning,
madam
Speaker,
on
page
4,
CC,
6.4,
1832,
Eastern
Avenue,
one
Keely
place
and
two
Sackville
Street.
There
is
a
request
for
directions.
Report
from
the
city
solicitor
I
would
like
to
move
an
amendment
to
that
and
thank
the
city
solicitor
for
his
cooperation.
Matthew
Longo
in
drafting
this
amendment,
essentially
we're
setting
up
a
construction
site
plan
working
group
before
before
we
finalize
the
approval
of
the
site
plan
application.
I
A
J
A
K
K
E
A
M
M
As
quotation
marks,
the
provincial
transit
plan
tax
levy
so
basically
I'm
trying
to
make
it
very
clear
that
these
transit
plans
that
have
been
announced
are
not
freebies
they're
not
going
to
be
built
for
free
they're,
going
to
cost
an
estimated
twenty
eight
billion
dollars
and
I
always
have
this
issue.
When
I
go
to
schools,
I
say
how
many
million
are
there
in
a
billion?
You
know
that
almost
all
the
students
can't
get
the
right
answer.
They
don't
know
that
there's
a
thousand
million
in
a
billion
I'm,
the
general
population.
M
M
That's
again:
gonna
cost
the
taxpayers
of
city
Toronto,
so
I
think
we've
got
to
be
upfront
with
them,
and
we've
got
to
include
this
line
and
future
tax
bills
when
it's
determined
how
much
they're
going
to
stick
us
with
for
building
liens
in
some
cases
may
not
agree
with
I
also
want
to
mention
you
know.
The
context
of
this
is
I
was
over
at
Angelina
Nicastro's
house
on
Marley
and
Eglinton
the
other
day
and
we're
talking
about
different
things.
Then
we're
talking
about
the
TTC
transit,
so
her
son,
Nick
Nicastro,
pulls
out
a
napkin.
M
He
puts
a
napkin
on
a
piece
of
paper,
says:
Mike,
listen,
you're!
All
these
transit
things
are
all
a
mistake.
I
got
the
right
idea,
I
know
what
do
with
your
transit
plan.
So
he
gets
a
napkin.
Oh
he
says
my
can.
I
borrow
your
pen,
so
there
he
goes
on
his
napkin
he's
drawn
lines.
We
should
have
a
circle
line
here
and
this
one's
got
to
go
up
to
Rexdale
and
what
about
the
people
down
there
in
Murray
Curtis
Park?
M
They
need
a
transit
line
there
right
councillor
Grimes
so,
but
this
is
what
we're
faced
with
is
we're
having
transit
plans
designed
on
the
run
on
back
of
napkins,
and
the
other
thing
is
at
least
the
napkin
I
saw
with
my
own
eyes,
but
these
plans
are
very
secretive,
I
mean
till
this
day
we
still
refused.
They
still
refuse
to
tell
us
the
magic
technology.
That's
going
to
be
used
on
a
most
important
relief
line,
a
ten
point,
nine
billion
line.
What
is
it
we're
not
telling
you?
M
How
can
we
even
take
this
seriously
when
we
get
this
ten
point?
Nine
billion
line,
that's
going
to
be
critical,
the
future
of
Toronto
and
they
don't
even
know
or
won't
tell
us
the
technology
and
we've
heard
so
many
versions
going
to
be
maglev.
It's
going
to
be
many
metros,
it's
going
to
be
submarines
whatever
it
is
every
day.
There's
a
new
guess
of
what
this
ten
point:
nine
billion
dollar
expenditure
is
going
to
be
and
trying
to
get
it
through
the
Drowned
River
anyways
I
just
wanted
to
say.
M
We've
got
to
really
be
on
our
toes
here
because
as
much
as
we've
got
to
remind
ourselves,
this
is
good
news
that
we're
talking
about
transit
investment
and
it's
great
that
the
premier
so
interested
in
it
and
I
think
that
is
something.
What
welcome
there
is
interested,
obviously
in
transit
at
Queen's,
Park
and
I.
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
the
big
picture
and
I
know
we
got
frustrated
with
Mayor
Tory.
M
Sometimes
we
had
frosted
with
Chris
Murray,
our
general
manager,
but
they're
in
a
very
untenable
situation,
where
they're
trying
to
be
reasonable,
they're
trying
to
ask
the
right
questions.
It
is
not
easy,
and
sometimes
we
express
our
frustration
with
our
lead
on
this,
but
they
have
an
incredibly
tough
job.
I
just
also
want
to
mention
you
know.
Sometimes
you
know
we
forget
that
this
is
about
the
people
of
Toronto's
transit
they
paid
for
it.
They
built
it.
M
This
Hugh
chirp
lands
are
going
to
run
right
through
their
neighborhoods
for
10-15
years
of
construction
mining
bulldozing
for
ten
fifth.
So
if
you
think
wow
I'm
gonna
get
a
subway
near
me,
just
ask
me
about
the
Eglinton
crosstown
with
12
years
of
hell,
we've
gone
through,
and
this
is
going
to
go
right
through
the
middle
of
the
city
through
the
Don
Valley
Thank.
M
F
Thank
you
three
two
count,
sir
Cole.
It
was
mentioned
that
this
is
Toronto's
transit
plan.
I,
take
note
that
some
of
the
transit
is
regional
in
nature
and
it
crosses
into
Mississauga
peel
up
in
Devon
Richmond
Hill
I
wondered
through
you
did
a
councillor
if
he
would
also
find
it
acceptable
if
those
municipalities
put
a
levy
on
their
bill,
that
says
Toronto's
transit
plan
and
how
the
residents
in
those
municipalities
might
perceive.
You
know
the
regional
concept
of
this,
and
if
we
do
this,
would
they
do
that
and
would
that
be?
Okay.
M
Well,
it
is
in
Toronto's
transit
plan
that
we're
discussing
here
we're
discussing
the
province
of
Ontario's
four
major
priorities
that
were
picked
out
by
the
province
by
Miss,
the
mysterious
mr.
Lindsay.
So
it's
his
plan
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
impact
of
it.
So
it's
not
Toronto's
plan
parts
of
it
are
Toronto's,
but
basically
it
belongs
to
mr.
Lindsay,
the
mysterious
mr.
Lindsay
I.
F
E
E
M
If
there
are
parts
of
these
seventeen
point,
three
billion
dollars,
that's
supposed
to
be
picked
up
by
municipalities
like
Toronto,
which
will
bear
the
brunt
of
it.
We
should
let
the
people
of
Toronto
know
what
part
of
that
is
a
result
of
the
provinces,
unwilling
to
put
the
17
three
billion
dollars
in
their
budget,
and
they
put
it
into
our
budget.
So
I
think
the
public
has
a
right
to
know
how
much
they're
paying
for
okay.
E
M
M
I
M
I
Even
if
the
seventeen
point
three
billion
dollars
is
somehow
adjusted
downward
because
Vaughn
may
pick
up
a
piece
or
Mississauga
may
pick
up
a
piece.
It's
still
important
in
your
opinion-
and
this
is
by
way
of
your
motion
to
ensure
that
taxpayers
fully
understand
what
where
their
tax
dollars
going.
Is
that
correct.
M
Exactly
and
how
much
these
transit
projects,
which
everybody
loves
until
they
see
the
sticker
price,
they
should
know
what
it
costs
and
to
see
it
on
a
tax
bill
might
pay
people
realize
we
all
want
transit,
we
need
it,
but
there's
a
huge
multi-billion
dollar
cost
to
it
and
I
think.
As
you
said,
counselor
for
transparencies
sake,
we've
got
to
be
straight
with
people
and
say
this
new
plan,
which
is
great
to
see
all
these
announcements,
but
you're
going
to
be
picking
up
the
bill.
I
M
K
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
Speaker
I
had
a
motion,
but
thanks
to
councillor
Robinson,
it's
not
necessary
anymore,
and
that
was
that
we
state
quite
firmly
to
the
provincial
government
that
we
are
opposed
to
the
change
in
what
was
arranged
with
the
with
the
gas
tax
financing
to
help
pay
for
our
state
of
good
repair
and
I'll.
Get
into
that
a
bit
in
a
second
I'm
also
be
supportive
of
the
mayor's
motion.
K
Much
much
like
my
colleague,
councillor
perks,
I,
think
it
provides
clarity
in
that
the
city
is
not
endorsing
in
any
way
the
the
provinces
proposed
changes
to
Toronto's
transit
plan,
I'll
also
be
supportive
of
councillor
Matt
Lowe's
motion,
I'll,
say,
is
quite
very
quickly
that
we
haven't
issued
the
RFP
yet
for
this
project
and
if
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
return
to
an
expert
driven
plan,
rather
than
continue
down
this,
this
political
they're,
very
politicized
plan
for
public
transit
in
Toronto.
It's
now
I
do
realize,
though
this
this
door
is
closing.
K
This
window
is
closing
and
that
it
may
be
in
fact
the
last
vote
that
I
cast
against
moving
ahead
with
with
with
our
current
transit
plans.
Finally,
I'll
also
be
supportive
of
councillor
Cole's
motion,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
demonstrate
this
Doug
Ford
tax
on
the
to
the
residents
of
Toronto,
who
won't
understand
it,
because
really
what
they're
doing
is
the
province
is
picking
our
pocket
here.
K
They
committed
this
money
to
fund
state
of
good
repair
for
public
transit,
something
we've
been
fighting
for
for
years
and
now
they're
backing
out
of
that
and
it's
gonna
cost
Toronto
residents.
It's
going
to
now
be
on
the
backs
of
Toronto
residents,
despite
the
fact
that
those
aren't
the
only
individuals
who
benefit
from
a
strong
public
transit
system
in
in
Toronto.
K
Everybody
benefits
everyone
in
the
GTA
benefits
from
this,
because
it
allows
the
the
commerce,
the
economic
engine
that
is
the
City
of
Toronto
to
function
properly
and
to
have
its
arteries
moving
people
around
quickly
and
efficiently.
Look
all
of
these
recommendations
and
this
entire
debate
hinges
and
rests
on
one
simple
assumption.
That
is
false.
K
We
have
seen
that
our
pre
we've
seen
what
the
premier
can
do
he's
devoid
of
fact,
and
not
only
a
transit
debate,
but
just
about
every
debate
that
they
have
at
Queen's
Park.
He
claims
his
claims
are
are
as
much
a
bumper
sticker
than
than
actual
public
policy
and
he
was
central
to
cancelling
and
and
destroying
transit
in
the
city,
the
first
time
and
delaying
the
the
advancement
of
Skaro
of
transit
and
Scarborough
that
would
be
opening
this
year.
He
was.
K
He
was
intimately
involved
with
that
and
now
he's
doing
it
again
and
much
much
worse.
He's
actually
now
gonna
be
responsible
for
further
delays
with
our
state
of
good
repair.
There
was
a
report
in
the
star
just
earlier
today
about
why
that
January
slowed
down.
One
of
the
worst
delays
in
history
was
caused.
It
was
caused
by
maintenance,
and
you
know
what
that's
gonna
get
worse.
Cuz
we've
got
this
billions,
tens
of
billions
in
backlog.
We
don't
have
anything
to
pay
for
so
he's
just
announced.
K
Not
only
is
he
gonna
delay
transit
expansion
in
the
city
of
Toronto,
but
he's
actually
going
to
break
the
system
we
have
and
yet
we're
going
back
to
this
table,
and
we
were
saying
in
good
faith,
we're
gonna,
keep
having
this
negotiation
and,
at
the
same
time
he's
working
to
destroy
it.
Now
you
don't
go
into
a
negotiation
and,
and
if
the
other
side
just
keeps
spouting
half-truths
and
not
telling
you
the
full
story,
do
you
continue
to
sit
there?
K
G
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Yesterday
morning
I
spoke
about
the
over
500
residents
that
have
contacted
my
office
by
email
and
petition
to
express
their
support
for
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
to
Malvern.
Last
week,
I
attended
a
town
hall
held
by
Scarborough
transit
action
with
Mara
Tory
and
liberal
MPP
Mitzi
hunter
for
Scarborough
Guildwood.
This
meeting
was
attended
by
over
200
residents
that
expressed
overwhelming
support
for
this
vital
investment
in
infrastructure
in
Scarborough.
G
Scarborough
isn't
fighting
Scarborough,
we
are
united.
We
are
all
calling
for
this
project
to
go
to
Malvern.
Our
residents
recognize
that
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
will
provide
us
with
less
time
on
the
bus
and
more
time
with
our
families.
I
was
extremely
disappointed
that
yesterday
councillor
Matt
Lowe,
who
claims
to
want
more
transit
for
Scarborough,
put
forth
a
motion
that
would
only
see
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
constructed
to
the
UTSC.
This
is
counter
to
the
mayor's
executive
meeting
last
week
and
City
Council's
2018
decision
to
build
the
LRT
to
Malvern.
G
I
can't
believe
that
councillor
Matt
Lowe,
who
is
swimming
in
subway,
stops
streetcar
stops
and
soon
LRT
stops
is
picking
on
the
transit
thirsty
community
of
Malvern
councillor
Matt
Lowe
Malvern
residents
spend
way
too
much
time
on
the
bus
and
out
in
the
cold.
Scarborough
residents
are
losing
hope.
City
Council
needs
to
signal
to
Malvern
and
to
the
other
priority
neighbourhoods
in
Scarborough
that
they
matter
I
encourage
you
to
vote
no
to
councillor
Matt
Lowe
motion
so
that
the
city
can
continue
with
the
planning,
design
and
engineering
of
the
Eglinton
East
LRT
fully
to
Malvern.
N
You,
madam
Speaker,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
this
subject.
For
years
and
years
and
years
we've
been
talking
about
transit
for
years
and
years
and
years
we've
been
debating
transits.
Unfortunately,
last
time
we
build
anything
in
Scarborough
was
in
1978.
In
the
early
90s
we
had
a
subway
extension
along
Sheppard
and
it
miraculously
stopped
a
Don
Mills
and
the
people
of
Scarborough,
a
joke
or
people
of
scarborough
north
and
all
the
residents
north
of
the
401
are
looking
for
that
to
be
extended
and
to
come
into
Scarborough.
N
Madam
Speaker,
we
have
something
like
20,000
doors,
coming
between
Victoria,
Park
and
Sheppard,
all
the
way
up
to
Midland
and
Sheppard
my
award
and
there's
a
couple
more
thousand
in
council
Carroll's
Ward,
just
at
Victoria
Park
in
Sheppard,
and
those
people
need
transit
and
those
people
need
to
come
downtown
quickly
when
I
was
just
elected.
A
school
came
to
my
ward
and
I
still
have
it
on
my
door
down
at
my
office,
and
it
says
it
took
us
1
hour
and
15
minutes
to
come
from
Scarborough
to
City
Hall
and
we
demand
faster
traffic.
N
Now
those
were
great
dates.
Now.
Those
great
dates
right
now
are
about
to
finish
high
school
and
they
probably
will
wait
until
their
children
are
born
before
they
see
anything
happening
in
the
north
part
of
Scarborough.
It
looks
like
the
north
part
of
Scarborough
is
designated
as
a
second-class
citizens
area
that
they
live.
When
I
hear
my
fellow
councillors
say
you
don't
need
a
subway
out
there.
You
can
get
an
LRT
and
I
hear
my
colleague
beside
me
saying
we
don't
need
Subway's
and
Scarborough
I
disagree.
N
You
know
you
got
a
lot
of
subway
stops,
as
my
colleague
said,
but
I'm
not
gonna,
pick
on
you
today,
that's
not
a
data.
We
pick
on
council
matt'll.
What
I
am
asking
for
and
what
I
am
saying
to
you
folks
is.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
transit
plan,
the
one-stop
subway
that
I
supported
from
Kennedy
and
Eglinton
out
to
Scarborough
Scarborough
Civic
Center,
the
mayor
referred
to
it
yesterday
there
was
going
to
be
a
mecca,
and
this
is
going
to
be
a
mecca
that
was
going
to
be
built
at
Scarborough.
N
Scarborough
community
asks
crabber,
Civic
Center,
just
behind
there
at
Scarborough
town
centre.
That's
about
20
thousand
doors
well,
I
have
to
tell
you
there's
20,000
doors
coming
fast
and
furious
along
Sheppard.
Sheppard
is
going
to
be
the
new
Yonge
Street
of
Scarborough
and
if
we
do
not
provide
for
it
a
subway
and
eventually
join
the
relief
line
that
the
that
the
Premier
says
it's
going
to
stop
at
Eglinton
and
Don
Mills.
Take
it
all
the
way
up
either
to
Don
Mills
or
wrong
Victoria
Park.
N
If
we
don't
do
that,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
complete
circle,
people
that
would
be
going
on,
one
stop
stop.
We
were
the
three
stops
that
the
premier
is
now
talking
about
to
Scarborough
Center.
They
shouldn't
be
just
stopping
there.
There
should
be
a
loop
that
they
can
come
around
and
I've
heard
from
my
good
friend,
counselor
pastor.
N
Nike
says
what
about
extending
the
subway
west
on
Sheppard
to
Dufferin,
well
or
Don's
view
I,
think
that
should
be
a
priority
and
I
think
we
should
look
at
having
the
subway
that
will
run
right
across
the
north
part
of
Scarborough
rect
right
across
the
north
part
of
the
city.
That
would
eventually
end
up
at
the
hub.
The
world
talking
about
at
the
airport,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
airport
right
now,
when
you
live
in
my
part
of
the
world
or
in
scarborough
north
in
councilors,
lies
word:
you'll
have
to
come
downtown.
N
If
you
want
to
take
transit
you
what,
when
I
have
to
take,
come
downtown
and
from
here
grab
the
U
P
in
order
to
go
out
to
the
airport.
The
other
option
that
you
have
is
to
take
PTC
or
to
take
a
taxicab.
Well,
if
you
live
downtown
and
you're
south
of
Wall
Street
or
in
blue
Street,
you
can
certainly
take
public
transportation
to
go
to
the
airport.
If
you
live
above
that,
you
can
certainly
do,
but
until
Eglinton
you
can
probably
do
something
but
north
of
Eglinton.
You
there's
not
very
much.
N
I,
see
the
city
divided
as
lakeshore
to
blur
blur
to
Eglinton
Eglin
to
the
401
and
God
help
you.
If
you
live
north
to
401
and
east
of
Victoria,
Park
god
help
you.
If
you
live
in
scarborough
north
of
the
401,
nobody
seems
to
care.
We
is
an
area.
That's
totally
been
forgotten!
It's
about
time
that
we
stop
using
my
account,
my
residents
and
the
residents
of
counselor
lie
and
part
of
the
residents
of
councilman
Calgary
make
sure
that
they
also
get
what
they
pay
for.
We
contribute
to
the
tax
base.
N
We
contribute
to
what
is
called
Toronto,
but
unfortunately
seems
that
Toronto
has
forgotten
the
people
north
of
the
401,
and
this
is
a
Victoria
Park.
That's
a
real
shame.
It's
a
real
shame
that
our
residents
get
treated
differently.
So
I
say
to
you
folks.
When
you
look
at
getting
votes
when
you
look
at
a
tax
base,
you
do
not
forget
those
residents.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
C
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
and
I
feel
like
I
have
to
speak
to
explain
why
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
vote
in
in
what
will
seem
like
two
different
directions:
I
will
be
supporting
councillor,
Matt
laws,
motion
and
I
know
it
won't
pass
and
then
I
will
be
supporting
meritorious
motion,
because
we
need
him
to
go
in
the
strongest
possible
position
to
Queens
Park.
There's
no
doubt
about
that.
Well,
why
will
I
be
voting
for
councillor
Matt
Lowe's
motion?
C
Well,
I
made
a
promise
years
ago,
standing
on
the
steps
of
Centennial
College
in
Scarborough
I
made
a
promise
to
students
there
who
were
learning
for
the
first
time
the
night
before
they
were
going
to
lose
a
station
right
at
their
front
door
in
the
transit
city
line
the
Scarborough
LRT.
They
were
just
learning
I,
don't
know
why
the
MPP
and
the
local
councillor
hadn't
told
them
that
they
were
getting
that,
but
they
didn't
know
and
I
told
them
tomorrow
morning,
you're
gonna
lose
it
and
they
were
very
upset
and
I
promised
them.
C
C
We
pick
up
a
player
who
lives
on
I,
think
it's
Darby
court
or
Danby
Court,
it's
pretty
close
to
mother
Teresa,
but
we
pick
him
up
because
cars
whip
around
there
so
much
because
there
isn't
a
lot
of
transit
opportunity.
Those
moms
not
even
sure
that
he's
safe
walking
over
to
Mt.
So
we
go
and
pick
him
up
on
the
way.
I
know
what
they
need
and
I
care
about.
It
heck
my
family
lives
in
Scarborough,
I
know
what
they
need.
A
lot
of
them
are
seniors.
C
C
What
they
need
are
short
walks
and
a
real
grid
of
transit,
and
we
cared
so
much
about
them
that
we
designed
one
and
so
I
promised
that
any
time
it
had
an
opportunity
to
support
that
I
would
but
I
do
want
merit
or
eetu
be
able
to
go
to
Queens
Park
with
a
solid
position.
So
you
know
I
will
be
joining
you
after
I
have
supported
councillor
Matt
Lowe's
motion,
but
madam
Speaker
know
this.
C
C
We
should
be
rising
on
a
point
of
privilege
every
time
someone
does
that
we
make
citywide
decisions
in
here
every
day,
because
all
25
of
us
care
about
Toronto's
residents,
I'm,
not
sure,
I'm,
not
sure
why
I
stopped
myself,
except
that
it
jams
up
the
works
and
the
proceedings
here,
but
I
should
be
standing
on
a
point
of
privilege
every
time
councillor
Cara
Janice
accuses
those
who,
because
they
don't
represent
a
ward
in
Scarborough,
they
don't
care
about
Scarborough.
It's
ludicrous.
C
It's
ludicrous
to
keep
saying
that
year
after
year
after
year,
it
was
councillor
Kelly
before
you
and
it
goes
on
and
on
and
on,
and
that's
just
one
of
the
lies.
We
tell
residents
of
Scarborough.
It's
just
not
true.
I've,
never
accused
anyone
here,
not
giving
a
damn
about
North
York,
because
I
know
that
all
25
people
in
here
go
through
what
they
go
to
get
elected
because
they
care
about
this
city.
Thank
you.
Everyone
in
ER,
Thank.
J
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
As
a
new
counselor
here,
I've
seen
from
the
outside
and
now
I'm
in
the
inside
and
I,
can't
echo
more
with
concrete
care
agendas
and
in
councillor
McAfee
what
they
are
expressing
about.
Scarborough
I
promised
my
residents
that
I
will
stand
up
for
Scarborough
I
I
promised
my
residents
that
I
put
Scarborough
back
on
the
map
and
now
Scarborough
the
transit
plan.
A
Scarborough
is
back
on
the
transit
map,
which
I'm
just
like
a
dream.
Come
true.
J
I
have
heard
here
that
some
of
my
colleagues
say
that
Scarborough's
for
rich
people
that
they
don't
need
any
transit
and
therefore
better
people
that
they
don't
really
meet.
Transit,
I,
don't
agree
in
the
1970s
I
commute
from
North
Scarborough
to
come
down
to
downtown
to
work
and
I've
been
there
and
I
know
how
it
is
to
have
such
a
long
commute
time
and
I.
J
Think
Scarborough
deserves
better
and
I,
can't
echo
more
with
what
councilor
care,
agendas
and
counsel
and
McKelvey's
stand
for
Scarborough
and
for
the
I
cannot
support
councillor
Matt
lost
motion
because
I
wanted
the
subway
to
go
to
Melvin
town
center
or
whatever
Transit
goes
to
the
Melton
town
center,
because
it's
very
important
for
the
people
there
that
don't
have
any
transit
and
one
stop
is
going
to
be
very
important
because
we
need
to
build
integrated
transit.
We
need
to
connect
eventually
from
that.
Okay,
sorry.
A
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Madam
Speaker
I've
been
interviewed
by
Fairchild
TV
last
in
the
last
couple
of
days
and
I
told
them
I
emigrated
to
Canada,
to
Toronto
my
home
in
1972,
and
at
that
time
I
am
I
created
from
hong
kong.
There
was
no
subway
in
Hong
Kong
and
now,
45
years
later,
the
subway
in
Hong
Kong
is
just
like
a
web
where
Toronto
has
been
just
like
they
just
built.
A
few
stops
and
I
think
is,
is
very,
very
important
that
built
that
we
built
transit.
Someone
is
feeling
transit.
J
O
Thank
you,
speaker
and
I'll
begin
by
placing
a
motion
which
I
believe
is
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
mayor's,
and
this
is
very
specifically
confirmation
from
staff
when
they
report
back
in
June
that
there
will
be
no
unreasonable,
delay
and
I
list
all
of
our
current
transit
expansion
plans.
Let
me
begin
my
remarks.
First
of
all
by
thanking
our
city
of
Toronto
staff.
O
Announcing
transit
is
easy,
building
transit
is
hard,
and
so,
if
there's
one
message
to
Ron
Tony
ins
have
said
to
me
and
in
my
five
years
here
is
that
they
are
sick
and
tired
of
Torontonian
or
of
politicians
drawing
a
new
transit
map
after
every
election.
So
in
councilor
Ainsley,
if
I
can
have
the
overhead
I
want
to
walk
through
this.
Just
very
briefly,
in
terms
of
some
recent
history
over
the
last
13
years,
if
I
can
have
the
overhead,
please
I'll
go
back,
do
we
have
I'll
go
back
on
the
overhead?
O
Can
I
it?
Can
you
hold
the
time
speaker
there?
We
go
we'll
start
in
2007.
So
if
I
go
back
13
years,
we
had
a
plan
with
the
light
rail
across
the
city.
Currently
Eglinton
is
under
construction
and
we
should
be
going
out
to
the
tender
unfinish
ortley
and
we've
brought
back
plans
for
waterfront
to
niggling
tonie's.
I
can
go
to
the
next
map,
then
we
had
2010
and
it
was
the
campaign
from
former
Mayor
Rob
Ford
I'll
call
this
subway
subway
Subway's
all
for
free
and
that
was
promised
in
2010.
O
Nothing
was
built.
If
we
can
move
on,
then
we
had
then
mayor
Ford
again.
This
is
what
I
will
call
subways.
Subway's,
Subway's
2.0.
Nothing
was
built.
In
fact
everything
was
delayed.
Let's
carry
on,
then
we
proceed
to
the
election
in
2014
and
smart
track.
We
were
told
22
stops
with
no
tax
dollars
spent
on
any
of
them.
We
have
six
stops
and
we
are
using
tax
dollars
for
it,
but
they
are
being
built.
If
I
can
go
to
the
next
map,
then
we
proceed
to
2016.
O
This
was
at
council
the
peace
in
the
valley
motion
whereby,
instead
of
three
stops,
we
would
have
one
stop
on
the
subway
and
an
LRT
as
well
for
the
price.
Altogether
it
turned
out.
We
only
had
enough
money
for
the
one
stop
subway
and
the
LRT
was
lost
go
to
the
next
map.
Then
we
had
the
city
council
plan
that
we
were
supposed
to
be
debating
today
and
the
city
council
plan
with
our
pita
funding
was
the
one-stop
subway.
O
The
six
smart
track
stops
alleviating
congestion
at
Yonge
and
Bloor
and
initiating
work
on
the
DRL
with
next
year
us
determine
prioritization
for
waterfront
and
Eglinton
LRT
I
can
go
to
the
next
map.
Then
we
had
a
press
conference
a
week
ago,
announcing
subways
Subway's
Subway's
4.0.
We
are
right
back
to
2010
when
the
same
commitment
was
made
and
nothing
was
done.
We
can
get
rid
of
the
maps
now
councillor
Ainsley.
So
if
I
could
say,
one
thing
it
would
be
enough.
O
Is
enough
enough
of
the
politicians
not
coming
up
with
transit
plans,
because
that
actually
takes
work,
but
drawing
transit
maps
I
submit
that
just
like
in
2010,
when
then
councillor
Ford
promised
subway,
subway,
Subway's
and
just
like
in
2012,
when
then
councillor
Ford
promised
subway
subway
Subway's
that
none
of
these
will
ever
get
built,
but
it's
worse
than
simply
delaying
Tran.
This
province
is
cutting
the
budget
for
repairs,
so
there's
less
money
to
actually
make
transit
arrive
on
time.
This
is
a
vicious
cycle.
By
design
the
province
breaks
the
TTC
by
not
funding
the
TTC.
O
They
then
propose
to
upload
the
TTC
to
break
this,
to
fix
the
system
that
they
broke
and
so
for
the
largest
city
in
this
country.
For
the
economic
engine
of
this
province,
we
cannot
operate
when
we
are
treated
like
just
another
provincial
department.
In
nine
months,
this
government
has
cut
council
in
half.
They
have
cut
1.1
billion
dollars
from
our
capital,
repairs,
budget
and
now
without
any
consultation,
they've
provided
yet
another
map
I
cannot
operate
under
these
conditions,
nor
should
we
and
in
June,
if
there
is
any
further
delay.
Thank
you.
We
stopped
thank.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker.
Through
you
to
councillor
cressie
in
your
motion,
you've
said
you've
mentioned
here,
line
to
one-stop
extension,
where,
in
fact,
the
report
before
us
is
referencing
on
page
3a
supporting
a
three
stop
line,
two
extension,
which
would
you
support
the
do
you
want
to
go
back
to
the
one
stop
or
are
you
supporting
what's
before
us,
though,
as.
O
A
point
of
clarification,
our
city
manager
stated
very
clearly
yesterday
that
there
is
no
recommendation
in
front
of
us
to
support
a
three
stop.
In
fact,
what
our
city
staff
report
says
very
clearly
and
what's
reinforced
by
the
city
manager,
is
that
we
are
going
to
assess
that
and
come
back.
There
is
no
recommendation
in
front
of
us
to
support
the
three
stop.
O
What
my
motion
says
very
clearly
is
that
for
Toronto's,
current
transit
expansion
plants
that
include
the
following
smart
track,
six
stops
the
one
stop
extension,
the
overcrowding
at
Yonge
and
Bloor
and
the
DRL.
If
in
the
assessment
they
come
back
and
say,
this
will
delay
those
projects
we
need
to
know
in
June.
That
is
what
this
says.
The.
D
O
O
If
going
to
three
means
that
Scarborough
residents
are
going
to
have
to
wait
further
for
a
transit
expansion,
then
we
need
to
know
that
and
I
would
hope
that
in
the
interest
of
actually
moving
residents
in
Scarborough,
that
you
would
want
to
know
whether
we
were
going
to
cause
them
further.
Undue
delays
as
well.
A
N
N
N
N
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
Speaker
I
just
wondered
if
I
could
ask
the
I
can't
well
through
you
to
counselor
Cressy,
to
define
unreasonable
delay,
in
particular
in
the
context
of
Eglinton,
because
one
of
the
proposals
was
to
underground
Eglinton
Avenue.
We
had
heard
from
staff
that
it
would
take
longer
to
build
Eglinton,
because
it's
underground
and
I
wanted
to
know
if
that
meant
unreasonable
or
a
delay,
even
in
the
eyes
of
the
councillor.
Well,.
O
P
Speaker,
I
am
going
to
support
councillor
Krusty's
motion
and
when
he
had
up
as
a
plan
and
I
know
that
when
the
camera
comes
on
me,
we
can
now
see
that
plan
again.
I'd
also
want
to
thank
the
staff
who
I've
worked
with
for
years
on
getting
the
environmental
assessment
approved
for
the
relief
line
south
and
starting
our
work
on
relief
line
north,
which
is
now
part
of
my
new
ward.
Thanks
to
the
provincial
government.
P
I
know
they
put
a
lot
of
hard
work
in
that
and
it's
not
it's
not
been
easy,
but
we
did
have
a
plan
in
2007.
It's
been
changed
many
times,
so
they
just
think
councillor
Chrissy
for
actually
showing
us.
What
we
say
is
our
our
transit
plan,
because
I
don't
think
the
public
realizes
that,
though
it
seems
messy,
we
actually
do
have
a
transit
plan.
We
might
not.
All
of
us
agree
with
all
the
aspects
of
that
some
people
don't
agree
with
smart
tracks.
Some
people
don't
agree
with
the
Scarborough
extension.
P
Some
people
are
a
little
iffy
on
maybe
that
relief
line,
if
that's
going
to
work
and
waterfront,
east
and
west
and
Eglinton,
east
and
west
were
pretty
united
on
those.
But
there
are
some
differences
but
now's
the
time
not
to
focus
on
our
differences.
The
time
is
to
agree
that
we
actually
do
have
a
plan
and
to
find
out
how
it
gets
tested
on
what
the
provincial
government
has
put
forward.
So
just
on
the
question
about
well,
do
we?
What
do
we
do?
Three
stops
two
stops.
P
We
have
a
smart
tractor
stationed
at
Lawrence
the
same
place.
You
would
put
a
station
on
the
Scarborough
subway
extension.
Do
we
need
that
different?
Maybe
it's
different,
but
do
we
need?
How
does
smart
truck
impact
any
of
the
stations?
That's
an
important
question.
We
are
committed
to
smart
track.
We
have
the
money
for
smart
tracks.
We
have
the
money
for
all
of
those
stations.
We
have
the
plan.
Now
we're
negotiating
with
the
provincial
government.
Councillor
carry
on
us
to
be
the
developer
of
those
stations,
they
have
put
their
stations
out
for
private
development.
P
We
have
our
stations,
which
we've
always
planned
to
pay
for,
so
we
could
proceed
with
those
as
soon
as
we
get
the
green
light.
As
far
as
the
relief
line
is
concerned,
I'm
very
interested
to
know
everything
about
their
plan,
which
is
how
will
the
new
trains
run?
What
do
we
need
to
do
with
the
environmental
assessment?
How
will
they
be
changing
the
environmental
assessment
to
go
I'll
cross
the
dawn
river
rather
than
under
the
dawn
river?
P
How
do
you
get
across
the
500
meters
at
Laird
bridge
all
of
these
things,
and
how
do
you
do
that,
two
years
sooner
and
cheaper,
then
we
would
be
able
to
do
it.
You
know
if
it
comes
back
and
says
we're
not
delaying
very
long
and
here's
all
the
answers
that
might
be
great
but
I'm
not
going
to.
We
have
a
plan.
P
We
have
a
plan
for
which
we
have
an
environmental
assessment
I'm,
not
throwing
our
plan
out
and
I
think
the
public
needs
to
know
we're
not
throwing
our
plan
out
we're
going
to
test
their
plan
against
our
plan,
because
either
we're
standing
behind
our
plan
or
simply
might
as
well
move
up
the
street
and
sit
in
the
Queens
Park.
We
have
a
plan.
We
should
defend
our
plan
as
much
as
we
can
I
know.
Some
councillors
can't
defend
this
plan,
but
this
is
a
plan.
P
So
let's
not
pretend
that
we're
just
sitting
down
here
did
the
ring
and
that
we
have
this
idea,
and
that
idea-
and
we
haven't
done
anything
on
transit,
my
friends-
we
actually
have
a
plan
and
a
plan
to
fund
part
of
it.
We
have
funds
for
much
of
it.
We
have
funds
for
smart
track.
We
have
funds
for
line
two
and
we
always
knew
the
relief
line
was
going
to
be
paid
by
the
province.
So
we
have
to
comment
on
whether
they're
actually
going
to
make
that
time
line.
P
That
is,
we
know,
is
necessary
and
the
public
knows
is
necessary.
So
this
should
be
a
moment
where
we
come
together.
Let
the
public
know
we
have
a
plan
and
test
anything.
The
province
is
doing
against
that
plan
and
here
in
June,
if
there
are
unreasonable
delays
on
all
fronts
now,
what
are
we
going
to
do
now?
What
are
we
going
to
do.
Q
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
speaker,
I'll,
start
off
by
thanking
a
number
of
people.
First
and
foremost,
the
mayor
and
his
leadership.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
premier
with
respect
to
his
leadership
on
this
file,
because
that's
extremely
important,
then
I
want
to
thank
the
city
manager
and
probably
my
thanks
to
the
city
managers.
Probably
it
brings
it
all
together
brings
the
city's
plan
and
the
mayor's
leadership.
The
Premier's
plan
and
his
leadership
to
the
table
where
the
city
manager
and
our
strong
team
of
transit
experts
are
actually
at
that
table
with
mr.
Q
Lindsay
and
others
to
discuss
to
look
at
as
councillor
Fletcher
said,
testing
our
plan
against
their
plan,
whether
or
not
we
augmented
to
add
and
so
on
resources
we've
been
told
or
allocated
that
are
going
to
come
to
assist
us
and
so
on.
So
normally
we
shout
at
each
other
now,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
talk
with
each
other
and
I.
Q
Think
people
want
to
see
that
clearly
as
someone
who
is
from
Scarborough
and
have
been
articulating
for
quite
some
time
about
expanding
the
blue
or
Dan
Ford
subway
system
into
the
heart
of
Scarborough
I'm,
very
much
for
that
and
I'm.
Yes,
I
support
the
three
stops
if
it
was
only
one
stop
who
are
going
to
get
then
I
support
that
as
well,
and
let
me
speak
to
something
that
was
said
by
the
mayor
yesterday.
He
talked
about
development,
that's
actually
going
to
take
place.
Madam
Speaker
there's
a
lot
of
it.
Q
That's
being
planned,
not
just
the
Scarborough
town
centre,
the
Oxford
property,
but
also
the
other
land
developers
who
we've
actually
had
meetings
with
over
the
last
month,
have
simply
now
come
forward
with
plans
to
develop
their
lands.
You
know
the
reason
why
speaker,
because
there's
going
to
be
a
subway
into
the
heart
of
what
is
our
downtown,
that's
never
been
developed
in
a
la
very
long
period
of
time.
The
last
time
a
commercial
development
took
place
in
the
Scarborough
Center
area
was
Concilium,
which
is
I,
think
was
in
the
early
1990s
or
mid
90s.
Q
There
hasn't
been
that,
and
so
in
addition
to
that
in
council
carroty,
honest
talks
about
the
20,000
doors,
it's
more
than
just
20,000
doors
in
Scarborough,
Center,
there's
new
parks,
there's
new
roadways,
new
design,
McCowan
Road
is
going
to
be
redone
because
of
this
new
development,
and
we
are
taking
into
consideration
all
the
impact
on
the
people
that
a
development
will
take
place
because
we
know
that
that
is
a
problem.
Let
me
just
turn
my
attention
to
councillor
Matt
low
for
a
moment
and
I
love
councillor,
Matt
Lowe.
He
is
an
amazing
guy.
Q
I've
had
a
great
working
relationship
for
a
very
long
period
of
time
and
I
will
continue
doing
that,
but
I
can't
agree
with
respect
to
his
assessment
on
transit
for
Scarborough,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
I
think
number
three
in
his
motion
about
just
extending
the
the
line
no
councillor
McKelvey
spoke
about
that
deleting
the
word
Malvern
town
centre.
The
folks
in
Malvern
have
suffered
for
such
a
long
time
with
a
lack
they're
off
of
good
friends.
'it.
It
does
take
them
two
hours
plus
to
get
to
any
place.
Q
A
L
On
a
point
of
privilege,
by
the
way,
I
think
a
councillor
Thompson's
comments
were
said
in
a
very
respectful
tone,
so
I'm
not
objecting
to
his
tone,
but
it's
been
twice
said
now
that,
and
this
is
an
impact
on
my
reputation
and
that's
why
I
stand
that
in
some
way.
My
motion
in
some
way
has
any
adverse
effect
on
the
residents
of
Malvern.
L
L
The
characterisation
madam
Speaker,
the
characterization,
is
that
somehow
my
motion
has
is
taking
transit
away
from
elver.
Both
both
councillors
have
have
have
just
said
that
and
that's
just
the
opposite
of
the
truth.
My
motion
actually
not
only
connects
Malvern
to
the
transit
rapid
transit
network,
but
it
doesn't
faster.
That's.
A
B
Q
Q
Yes,
yes,
weaker,
so
I'm
very
pleased
with
respect
to
the
direction
that
we're
going
in
and
particularly
that
table
where
we're
going
to
be
able
to
bring
our
plans
forward
to
compare
that
and
contrast
that
with
that
is
being
proposed
by
the
province.
Clearly,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
address
the
needs
of
transit
that
is
certainly
lacking
in
this
city.
That's
been
people
being
asking
for
for
quite
some
time,
but
finally,
you
have
a
premier
who
is
interested
in
talking
with
the
city.
Q
There
is
a
table
where
we're
at
we'll
bring
our
expertise.
Madam
speaker,
so
we
will
continue
to
defend
the
interests
of
the
residents
of
Scarborough,
as
well
as
our
collaboration
with
the
interests
of
all.
You
know,
opportunity
for
transit,
I
will
say
this
speaker.
It
was
I
who
moved
the
motion
to
bring
the
DRL
line.
Q
That
was
actually
not
in
the
25
year
plan
or
the
10
year
horizon
plan
for
Metro
links,
and
there
are
people
now
today
in
this
council
were
very
supportive
of
it
who
did
not
support
it
when
I
moved
it
back
then,
and
that
was
from
someone
from
Scarborough,
so
we
were
looking
at
the
interests
of
everyone
in
terms
of
transit,
so
I'm
supportive
of
providing
the
mayor
with
the
direction
that
he
needs.
Thank
you
deal
with
the
province.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
A
L
A
A
E
G
E
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
G
A
A
R
Yes,
I'm
Adam
I
actually
have
a
motion,
so
we
we
discussed
this
item
at
planning
and
Housing
Committee
I
move
this
motion
on
behalf
of
some
of
the
members
of
the
cycling
community
in
that
area
or
a
motion
similar
to
this
staff
have
since
met
with
me
and
said
that
maybe
the
motion
that
was
moved
was
not
ideal
from
technical
standpoint,
so
this
corrects
that
makes
it
a
little
more
open-ended
and
so
I'm
moving
that
and
that's
really
it
okay.
This
really
stops
so
what
yeah
and
it
stops
its
stuff.
A
E
A
F
E
E
The
amendment
makes
the
motion
the
recommendation.
Nation
number
eight
reads:
City
Council
requests
the
chief
planner
executive
director,
City
Planning,
to
review
the
opportunity
to
incorporate
a
food
bank
and
our
community
kitchen
and
the
multi-purpose
nonprofit
community
space
I
only
change
that,
within
the
context
of
a
committee,
councillor
Robinson
moved
to
motion
identifying
one
particular
group
to
have
control
over
this.
E
R
Would
you
consider
it
a
friendly
amendment
to
say
all
to
include
the
community
share
food
bank
in
in
the
mix
because
they
are
a
member
agency
of
the
north
york
harvest
ins
and
Second
Harvest
Agency
they've
been
in
place
since
2004
they're,
one
of
the
biggest
food
banks
in
Toronto
quite
frankly,
but
they
work
very
quietly
behind
the
scenes.
So
would
you
be
willing
to
say,
including
the
community
food
the
community
share
food
bank,
including
them
as
one
of
the
potential
agencies
to
be
involved
in
this?
So.
E
Madam
chair,
what
I
would
say
is
this
we're
kind
of
getting
into
the
weeds
on
something?
That's
the
secondary
plan,
which
is
supposed
to
be
more
of
a
you
know,
a
thirty-five
thousand
foot
document.
It's
not
supposed
to
get
into
this
level
of
my
new
shirt
number
one,
although
you
know
the
motion
was
moved
to
committee
and
and
the
K,
and
that
counselor
chair
by
Lao
accepted
that
number
two.
E
The
other
reason
why
I
wouldn't
accept
it
is
I
think
we
need
to
keep
sort
of
neutral
because
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
groups
in
Flemington
that
want
to
use
this,
and
I
would
like
to
add
them
as
well
and
I
don't
want
to
favor
one
group
over
another
group.
I,
just
don't
think
it's
that's
right
in
proper
and
as
the
local
councillor
for
this
area,
I
think
we
should
just
leave
it.
We
should
just
keep
it
not
mentioning
any
particular
group.
So
no
I
wouldn't
accept
that.
R
Yeah
I
guess
I
would
ask
you:
are
you
aware
that
this
food
banks
in
the
functioning
out
of
the
basement
of
a
church
in
which
the
church
has
limited
limited
lifespan?
So
really
they
need
some
type
of
long
term,
well,
really
short
term
plan
on
how
to
continue
to
function,
to
serve
families
in
the
da
mills
community
and
beyond?
R
E
So
I
met
with
the
group
I'm
aware
of
their
concerns.
I'm
also
I've
also
met
with
other
community
groups
in
Flemington
and
Don
Mills
and
I'm.
Aware
of
that,
I
think
we
share
the
common
interest
of
trying
to
incorporate
this.
This
is
in
some
ways
a
discussion
that
should
be
take
place
in
another
forum,
perhaps
it
when
this
comes
to
the
executive
committee
or
comes
to
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Committee
we're
not
so
the
the
existing
plan
does
not
really
include
that
right
now
for
the
Donnell's,
the
the
celesta
community
center.
E
In
fact,
madam
chair,
we
haven't
even
decided
yet
on
the
particular
site
and
now
we're
deciding
which
groups
are
going
to
use
it.
So
I
would
say
the
members
of
council
it's
exceedingly
premature,
to
be
dealing
with
this
level
of
detail
at
this
particular
time
when
that
decision
has
not
even
been
made
yet
and
this
it
hasn't
been
even
present
presented
to
this
council.
Thank.
C
What
we've
just
gone
through
in
the
Parkway
forest
community
recreation
center,
where
we
built
a
full
commercial-grade
kitchen,
is
the
the
the
extremely
complicated
process
of
qualifying
a
group
to
mean
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
capacity
to
be
using
these
kitchens
and
leave
no
liability
for
our
own
corporations.
It
may
well
turn
out
that
exactly
the
the
group
that
councillor
Robinson
hopes
will
will
get
this
we'll
get
this
with
a
partner
like
north
characteristics
likely,
but
I.
C
Think
it's
important
to
note
that
recreation
has
a
very
robust
process
to
make
sure
that
as
they
go
in,
they
are
safe.
Their
users
are
safe
and
that
there's
a
fair
usage
of
that
kitchen
by
this
group
and
others
by
being
able
to
go
through
that
process,
once
the
kitchen
exists,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
reinforce
what
councilman
and
Wong
has
said
that
really.
C
If
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
kitchens
don't
leave
us
with
difficult
anomalies
throughout
the
system,
as
we
begin
to
build
more
and
more
of
them
through
development
that
it's
really
best
to
leave
that
process
with
recreation
and
social
development
staff
and
and
then
we,
you
know
if
we
have
a
passion
for
a
group
when
we
know
that
group
has
a
need
at
that
time,
we
can
advocate
for
them
and
help
them
have
that
capacity
to
get
through
the
process.
So
what
I'll
be
supportive
of
councilman
Wong's
motion.
A
I
Councillor
Perutz,
please.
A
O
O
Under
the
current
bylaws,
the
city
follows
the
provincial
guidelines
for
air
conditioners
in
the
decibel
limit
and
we
can't
implement
and
look
at
our
own,
and
so
this
is
a
request
to
the
province
to
let
us
look
at
that.
The
this.
The
first
part,
is
the
more
significant
one.
So
let
me
explain
it
prior
to
the
updated
noise
by
law.
O
That's
in
front
of
us
here
there
was
what's
called
a
general
prohibition
on
noise,
except
when
there
was
construction
or
a
permit,
and
so
what
that
meant
in
effect
was
that
any
time
you
could
hear
noise
they,
it
was
not
allowed.
Now,
staff
have
brought
forward
an
update
to
that
which
is
to
allow
non
construction
noise
at
certain
hours
up
to
a
certain
decimal
point
and
the
reason
they've
done.
O
O
At
their
discretion,
decide
Kenny
Rogers,
that's
right!
You
got
to
know
when
to
hold
them,
but
it
gives
staff
the
discretion
to
say
that
noise
may
be
allowed
under
the
decibel
limit,
but
it
is
unreasonable
and
persistent
and
it
is
to
strengthen
that
by
law
to
give
them
that
direction.
So
that's
what
that
is
now.
Let
me
broaden
my
comments
at
a
much
broader
level.
O
D
C
L
This
this
I
also
want
to,
by
the
way
thank
staff
who
you
know,
along
with
Tracy
cook,
before
him
and
Carlton
grant
and
mark,
and
everybody
is
part
of
the
amount
they
do
an
amazing
job,
and
you
know
they
work
with
I
think
far
too
little
at
times
to
do
so
much
the
expectations
on
them
are
boundless.
We
keep
adding
expectations
onto
them
and
they
really
do
a
good
job
with
what
they
can.
But,
as
I
said,
am
I
right,
I
alluded
to
my
questioning
yesterday.
L
L
What
I'm
very
clear
about
is
that
it
should
be
no
more
than
two
months,
in
other
words,
they're,
saying
specifically
two
months
to
really
just
get
this
right
and
then
no
matter
what,
with
after
two
months,
whatever
happens,
something
needs
to
move
on
and
I
get
that
pragmatically
rationally.
We
need
some
by
law.
In
effect,
that's
an
improvement.
What
I'm
concerned
about,
though,
that
is
that
if
we
haven't
also
completed
most
of
the
hiring,
we
don't
have
enforcement
again.
L
As
I
said
yesterday,
the
other
side
of
the
coin
in
place
and
we're
going
to
be
setting
up
new
expectations,
then
you
know
we
need
to.
We
need
to
be
realistic
about
what
we
can
even
address.
I
actually
think
that
there's,
if
I
to
my
way
there'd
be
many
many
other
reforms
I'd
like
to
see
in
this
package
too,
so
over
the
next
two
months.
Hopefully
we
can
address
their
concerns
mr.
L
To
you
know,
maybe
there's
another
way
to
address
the
need
for
concrete
not
to
be
stopped
as
concrete
as
being
poured,
because
that
I
get
it
at
hardens,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
mitigation
plan
in
place,
no
matter
what,
maybe,
even
initially
through
the
zoning
I,
don't
know
what
that
answer
is.
But
let's
discuss
that
point
being.
This
is
almost
ready
to
come
out
of
the
oven.
L
It's
not
quite
ready
to
come
out
of
the
and
what
I'm
earning
you
to
do,
especially
those
of
us
who
kind
of
deal
I
mean
I
deal
with
noise
by
law,
complaints.
All
the
time.
I
can't
tell
you
I,
don't
remember
a
Saturday
morning
that
I've
woken
up
that
without
a
tweet
or
an
email
at
me
saying
you
know
some
contractor
thought
it
would
be
a
great
idea
at
5:00
in
the
morning
to
start.
L
You
know,
hammering
away
most
of
us
have
experienced
in
that
experience
that
if
you
represent
the
downtown
or
Midtown
areas
along
with
other
areas
of
our
city,
where
there's
construction
so
two
more
months,
that's
the
request
from
our
communities.
Let's
nail
this
down
one
way
or
another
and
then
move
on
what
I'm
concerned
about.
L
Is
that
if
we
don't
allow
this,
what
we're
gonna
end
up
is
within
revised
bylaw
and
a
bunch
of
unhappy
people
who
are
the
very
people
who
are
actually
trying
to
kind
of
bring
bring
us
forward
with
rather
than
leave
behind
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
gonna
feel
that
way.
If
we
don't
do
this
with
them
so
two
months
and
then
we
get
going,
thank
you.
Thank.
C
I'm,
just
when
you
say
two
months,
you
know
you're
saying
two
meeting
cycles
and
with
the
best
of
intentions,
you
know
how
that
sometimes
sort
of
gets
punted
along.
Are
you
not
concerned
that
that
now
takes
us
into
the
busy
construction
season
and
the
busy
party
season
with
the
status
quo,
which
is
people
are
not
happy
with
now.
L
What
what
I'm
concept'
going
back
to
the
enforcement
side?
Is
that
no
matter
if
we
move
things
by
two
hours
or
this
or
that
I'm
actually
not
convinced
that,
even
with
with
the
bylaw
reforms
that
will
actually
on
the
ground
like
in
real
life,
experience
feel
much
change
if
the
complaints
are
not
addressed
within
a
reasonable
time
frame
and
I.
L
During
our
last
licensing
committee
meeting
I
asked
the
very
same
question
about
where
they're
at
with
hiring
and
what
staff
said
is
actually
really
soon
they're
going
to
be
in
a
place
where
they
were
going
to
be
forced
up
more
they're
gonna
have
more
staff,
they're,
gonna
they've,
actually
gotten
announcements
to
come,
where
they're
gonna
be
able
to
do
things
in
a
different
way.
That
could
make
our
communities
a
lot
happier
and
I
think
this.
If
this
comes
forward
in
the
same
way.
At
the
same
time,
it'll
be
a
better
delivery.
A
A
C
A
C
A
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
Speaker
and
I
have
my
name
in
the
right
column,
not
confused
at
all.
So
through
you
with
respect
to
your
deferral,
counselor
annoys
coalition
and
others
have
put
forward
a
variety
of
concerns
that
they've
had
staff
have
within
the
span
of
two
weeks
that
we
had
agreed
to
that
they
would
be
be
able
to
respond
to
them.
Responded
to
the
concerns
in
question.
What
additional
concerns
have
they
brought
to
your
attention
that
they
need
additional
time
to
be
addressed?
Q
Q
L
Looking
at
the
best
ways
to
measure
amplified
noise
looking
for
a
clear
definition
as
to
as
to
what
at
source
means
with
with
the
requirement
from
the
measurement
for
amplified
sound,
they
want
to
look
at
retaining
the
regulation
to
allow
measurement
of
the
property
line
for
amplified
sound.
There's
a
number
of
kind
of
specific
detailed
issues.
But
those.
Q
L
I
mean,
as
you
know,
there's
a
difference
between
addressed
and
resolved
and
clearly
in
staff
will
will
tell
you
this
not
everything's
been
resolved,
and
their
position
has
been
crystal
clear
that
they're
sort
of
they're
at
a
point
where
they
feel
like
they've
gone
as
far
as
they
can
in
the
road.
Now
it's
time
to
just
kind
of
okay,
do
it
right
and
I
respect
that
I
mean
they're
they've
done
an
amazing
job,
they're
really
good
at
what
they
do.
L
What
we're
hearing
from
residents
at
the
table,
though,
is
that
and
again
you
know
how
it
is
at
a
table
there's
more
than
one
voice,
there's
more
than
one
perspective.
What
the
residents
are
saying
is
that
they
actually
would
like
to
work
on
these
specific
issues,
because
they're
important
to
them
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
to
be
an
expert
in
amplifying
noise.
So.
S
S
I'm
just
wondering
that
if
you
would
consider
that
if
this
is
a
proof
that
that
we
continue
to
monitor
this
and
work
with
the
communities,
because
we
know
that
these
are
very
complex
issues
and
you
know
getting
to
a
hundred
percent
satisfaction,
all
the
time
might
not
be
possible
but
acknowledging
that
we
need
to
continue
to
work
with
the
communities,
but
that
we
also
need
to
move
ahead
with
some
sort
of
enforcement
and
by
law
would
would
you
agree
with
that?
I.
L
Fully
agree,
all
the
point
of
this
motion
is
that
what
we
are
hearing
from
the
most
some
of
the
most
engaged
residents,
who
have
been
at
the
table
that
they're
appreciative
of
the
work
that
staff
have
done,
they
feel
like
they
have
made
progress,
that
there
are
specific
issues,
some
of
which
I
addressed,
referring
to
the
letter
from
the
Toronto
East
coalition
that
they
would
like
to
have.
You
know,
rather
than
you
know
it
approved
today,
a
small
window
of
additional
time
to
see
if
they
can
resolve
them.
L
L
L
O
A
F
L
They've
they've
listed
their
I
think
very
clearly
their
points
of
contention,
some
of
which,
by
the
way,
may
be
resolved
in
the
matter
of
this
meeting.
Some
may
not.
What
is
what
they
are
being
very
clear
about,
though,
is
that
they
don't
mean
to
hold
it
up
any
further
than
that
they
just
want
to
be
able
to
resolve
them.
So.
F
Would
you
not
consider
or
agree
that
at
some
point,
you
actually
need
to
try
out
what
the
proposals
are
of
the
staff
in
order
to
evaluate
whether
or
not
they've
been
successful
and
able
to
compare
to
some
of
the
recommendations
that
the
coalition
have?
For
instance,
I
know
one
of
the
the
things
that
the
coalition
brought
up
was
this
notion
of
leq
versus
DBZ,
and
so
we've
got
different
standards
that
are
proposed
by
our
staff
and
we
wouldn't
know
if
they're
successful
until
we've
had
a
chance
to
try
them
out.
So.
L
The
the
Toronto
noise
coalition
they
actually
came
in
with
even
a
bigger
ass
right.
They
wanted
to
go
with
the
New
York
approach,
which
is
far
more
vigorous.
Far
more
enforcement
and
they've
they've
compromised
on
a
number
of
points,
they're,
not
convinced
that
the
direction
the
staff
are
going
in
is
satisfactory,
and
what
what
I'm
doing-
and
you
know,
agree
or
disagree
with
Righton
is
you
know
basically
in
a
representative
democracy?
E
You
speaker,
it's
my
intention
to
oppose
the
deferral
and
I
encourage
all
of
my
colleagues
to
join
me
in
that.
Well,
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
very
important
work
that
the
trauma-
noise,
Coalition
and
all
of
their
member
organizations
have
done
and
will
continue
to
do
on
this
I
think
it
is.
It
is
time
to
fish
or
cut
bait.
We
we
have
I
can
tell
you
that
the
entire
time
I
have
been
an
elected
official.
E
There
have
been
efforts
to
fine-tune
tweak
a
men,
change,
update
and
sometimes
tear
it
all
up
and
start
all
over
again
to
our
noise
bylaw.
It's
an
enormous
ly,
complex
regulatory
piece,
its
enormous
ly,
complex
enforcement
piece.
It's
also
very
difficult
to
communicate
with
constituents
about
what
their
rights
are
and
how
they
apply
in
a
given
circumstance.
We
need
to
settle
something
get
it
in
place
and
make
improvements
for
every
communication
I
have
had
from
a
community
group
concerned
about
whether
its
final
form
of
what
we've
got
is
perfect.
E
I
have
a
hundred
other
communications
from
constituents
who
are
suffering
right
now
and
need
improvements
and
I'm
not
going
to
delay
those
improvements.
As
to
the
suggestion
that
we
can
just
put
this
off
for
two
months
and
come
back,
no,
you
can't
the
bylaw
is
complex.
The
monitoring
is
complex.
The
equipment
you
need
is
complex,
the
hiring
is
complex.
Have
you
put
it
off
for
two
months
and
move
one
piece?
Everything
else
has
to
move
and
we
will
lose
a
year.
I'm
not
prepared
to
do
that.
D
You
thank
you
very
much.
Speaker
I
am
against
deferral.
Staff
have
been
working
on
this
for
years.
The
staff
report
in
front
of
us
stretches
31
pages.
They
did
online
surveys,
they
hosted
various
town
halls
between
January
and
February
of
this
year.
They
had
five
public
consultations.
They
received
over
300
written
submissions.
The
bylaws
will
last
comprehensively
updated
in
2010.
D
They
retain
an
acoustical
engineering,
firm,
a
third
party
in
pinion,
a
research
firm
and
a
third
party
participation,
for
they
have
done
the
work
they
have
been
comprehensive
and
the
people
of
Toronto
wanted
us
to
get
on
with
the
business
of
running
the
city
and
not
delay,
delay
delay.
This
is
time
to
get
this.
This
package
done.
It's
not
perfect.
You
can
always
come
back
for
future
amendments,
but
to
delay.
D
N
Chair
on
a
point
of
order,
I
rise
to
introduce
the
two
classrooms
from
my
area:
saint
sylvester
school
they've,
been
here
at
beyond
the
beyond
the
classroom
and
they're,
accompanied
by
mr.
Fernandez,
the
principal
mr.
inside,
which
is
a
great
two
three
teacher,
miss
Severino,
which
is
grade
three
and
four,
and
we
do
also
have
a
parent,
mrs.
Monica
Monica.
Thank
you
for
coming
down.
S
In
here
we
have
I
think
the
last
number
that
I
saw
was
a
hundred
and
four
cranes
up
in
the
area
of
the
city
of
Toronto.
It's
more
than
New
York,
Chicago
and
LA.
Put
together
there's
a
lot
of
construction,
which
is
good.
You
know
our
city's
growing
jobs
are
out
there.
We
need
to
build
homes
for
these
people,
but
obviously
sometimes
this
becomes
inconvenient
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
this
is
the
balance
that
we
need
to
get
in
here.
S
It's
the
balance
between
making
sure
that
we're
building
the
homes
that
we
so
desperately
need
in
the
city
and
making
sure
that
we
are
respecting
the
neighbors
that
live
beside.
What
today
is
a
construction
site,
but
tomorrow
tomorrow's
gonna
be
somebody's
home,
is
gonna,
be
somebody's
house
and
and
I
think
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
in
here
because,
like
in
any
other
industry,
we
have
good
operators
and
we
have
not-so-good
operators,
so
the
ones
that
are
really
good
they're
doing
the
best
they
can
to
accommodate.
S
You
know
really
tough
construction
sites,
other
one,
it's
not
so
good
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
here
is
to
bring
those
two
parts
together
and
finally,
you
know
for
I
think
the
first
time
since
I've
been
a
counselor.
You
know
we
all
bring
a
lot
of
experience
and
conversations.
We
have
at
the
dinner
table,
I'm
able
to
bring
my
experience
in
conversations
at
the
dinner
table,
because
this
is
what
my
dad
do
for
a
living.
He
was
a
cement
finisher.
So
there's
no
better
person
I.
S
Think
in
this
council
chamber
that
understands
everything
in
anything
about
cement
finishing
than
I
and
I
know
that
very
often
you
would
have
to
call
a
saying.
You
know
what
don't
expect
me
at
night
because
we're
there
Cement
pouring
and
we
have
to
finish
the
work
so
not
that
you
really
enjoyed
it,
not
that
he
boss
enjoyed
paying
in
time
and
a
half
to
finish
the
work,
but
they
had
to
do
it
because
there's
a
big
truck
big
load
of
expensive
cement
outside
that
needs
to
get
finished.
S
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
here
is
create
a
process
where
some
noise
mitigation
is
going
to
be
accommodated,
but
that
this
work
can
when
in
extenuating
circumstance,
the
circumstances
needs
to
happen
that
it
happens
with
the
acknowledgement,
with
the
conscious
effort
to
to
mitigate
the
the
issues
with
the
community.
So
I
ask
for
your
support
and
madam
Speaker
I
asked
that
we
get
some
silence
in
the
chambers
as
well.
S
So
so
we
are
removing
the
definition
of
continuous
pouring
concrete
and
not
large
crane
work
so
to
allow
a
process
to
be
created
to
have
these
exemptions
so
we're
we're
right.
Now
we
have
a
blank
blanket
exemption,
we're
getting
rid
of
that
blanket
exemption
and
saying
that
there's
a
process
that
is
going
to
be
created
to
have
that
exemption.
Well,.
S
That's
that's
coming
in
the
next
book.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
the
other
thing
is
that
staff
had
recommended
that
every
three
months
they
they
would
need
to
come
in
and
and
apply
for
their
permit.
Well,
we
know
that
construction
lasts
sometimes
more
than
three
months
and
that
it
is
appropriate
that
they
come
with
a
plan
if
they
want
it
for
a
one-year
that
they
can.
If
so
wish,
to
present
the
plan
for
six
months
eight
months,
one
year,
the
the
number
three
is
actually
what
is
required
to
have
that
exemption.
S
If
you
can
scroll
up
a
bit,
so
we
can
actually
see
the
points
under
under
number
three,
so
we
will
need
to
have
this
notice
of
exemption
permit
install.
So
most
of
this
was
already
in
the
report
we're
just
emphasizing
here
in
the
in
the
in
the
motion,
so
these
are
conditions
that
that
staff
had
recommended
already.
S
S
F
You,
madam
Speaker
I,
have
a
motion,
a
theory,
and
it
is
a
motion
for
a
report
in
the
future.
I
hope
that
this
is
not
a
contentious
ask,
but
it
is
asking
to
have
a
follow-up
in
a
year's
time,
so
q4
of
2020
and
I'll
take
note.
The
reason
why
it's
q4
is
so
that
we
can
go
through
a
summer
period
where
our
MLS
staff
are
fully
operational
with
this
new
bylaw
and
out
in
the
field
and
just
see
how
it
goes.
F
I've,
just
added
a
list
of
things
that
I
could
seem
to
predict,
might
be
items
of
interest
and
I'll
put
it
to
councillors.
If
you've
got
any
other
ideas,
you
know
make
them
known
and
I've
left
it
open
for
any
additional
reporting,
but
I'll
take
note.
This
is
a
this.
Is
a
big
deal,
this
change.
Everyone
knows
in
this
chamber
either
through
their
personal
experiences
as
a
citizen
of
the
city
or
in
their
role
as
a
member
of
council.
That
noise
is
a
sensitive
matter.
F
It
is
often
complex
and
it
is
often
something
that
is
extremely
difficult
to
resolve.
I
believe
that
the
report
coming
forward
adds
new
tools
to
the
to
the
tool
set
that
MLS
has
to
try
and
get
these
matters
fixed.
What
I
would
really
like
to
see
is
how
they
work
and
I
am
optimistic.
A
lot
of
work
has
been
done
on
this.
Having
new
measurement
technologies
and
things
to
try
to
quantify
and
deal
with
a
matter
on,
the
spot.
F
But
I
want
to
see
how
that
works,
and
one
particular
thing
I
want
to
look
at
closely.
Is
you
know
what
happens
with
music
in
a
neighborhood
before
there
were
general
provisions?
That
basically
said
you
can't
play
music
late
at
night,
but
very
difficult
to
enforce.
In
our
case,
we're
now
gonna
have
a
sound
test
on
that,
but
I
still
want
to
understand
if
that
was
adequate,
because
if
it's
a
really
quiet
neighborhood
is
that
enough
to
deal
with
the
matter,
so
the
report
back
would
come
at
the
end
of
next
year
and
I.
F
Hope
members
of
council
see
this
as
a
suitable
way
to
deal
with
the
matters,
maybe
that
councillor
Matt
Lowe
raised
in
his
request
to
defer
he
wanted
to
work
on
this.
Some
more
I
think
at
some
point
we
should
get
on
with
the
changes
see
how
they
went
and
if
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
dealt
with
in
a
year's
time.
We
will
deal
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
T
You
and
madam
Speaker
I
have
an
amendment
that
city
council
amend
part
43
points,
C
of
economic
and
community
development
committee
recommendation
1
by
adding
the
words
except
for
non-emergency
work
conducted
by
the
city
of
Toronto
and
its
agencies,
or
corporations
between
the
hours
of
10:00
p.m.
and
7:00
p.m.
so
that
it
never
reads
as
follows:
government
work,
except
for
non-emergency
work,
conducted
by
the
city
of
Toronto
and
its
agencies,
or
corporations
between
the
hours
of
10:00
p.m.
and
7:00
a.m.
so.
T
This
is
hopefully
a
very
small
amendment.
To
simply
say,
we
should
not
be
giving
ourselves
a
blanket
exemption
to
create
noise
overnight.
That
would
literally
keep
people
awake
all
night
so
for
emergency
work,
sure
you
have
to
go
in
and
do
the
work
whenever
you
can
at
other
times.
We
should
be
certainly,
if
at
all
possible,
doing
the
work
so
that
it
does
not
keep
people
awake.
The
the
whole
purpose
of
this
exercise
I
had
hoped,
was
to
reduce
the
noise
that
our
residents
are
subjected
to.
T
The
single
biggest
source
of
noise
in
the
area
that
I
represented,
probably
the
same
elsewhere
in
the
city,
is
work
done
by
the
City
of
Toronto,
not
work
done
by
the
development
industry.
So,
for
example,
every
time
a
condo
was
built,
there
are
utility
cuts
across
Yonge
Street
and
those
have
to
be
repaired.
Those
are
now
repaired
by
the
City
of
Toronto.
Yonge
Street
is
being
dig
up,
dug
up
pretty
well
perpetually.
T
There's
always
somebody
doing
some
kind
of
digging,
and
now,
with
the
current
regulations
where
the
City
of
Toronto
was
not
exempt,
the
staff
have
to
come
in
and
ask
for
an
exemption,
and
that
provides
an
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
about
you
know:
what's
the
level
of
noise,
how
can
we
schedule
this
in
a
way
so
that
we
yes
get
it
done
faster?
Yes,
don't
add
to
the
cost?
T
Yes,
do
not
disrupt
traffic
more
than
necessary,
but
also
do
not
keep
people
awake
at
night
more
than
is
necessary,
so
we
really
should
be
doing
do
as
we
say,
not
as
we
do
here,
and
the
City
of
Toronto
should
not
be
giving
itself
an
exemption
to
keep
people
awake
all
night.
There
may
be
situations
where
work
can
be
done
without
keeping
people
awake,
but
we
should
only
do
that
where
absolutely
necessary.
T
Ironically,
this
situation
occurs
most
where
you
have
the
most
people
living
along
a
major
street,
because
the
for
example
in
Willowdale
there
would
be
easily
50,000
people
living
right
along
Yonge
Street,
and
that's
it.
It's
largely
due
to
that
population
increase
and
all
the
various
construction
activity
that
we
are
continually
digging
up
the
street
and
doing
more
city
work.
T
O
T
Well,
first
of
all,
if
it's
emergency
work,
the
motion
only
applies
did
not
emergency
work.
Okay,
if
it's
emergency
work
obviously
has
to
be
done
whatever
the
time
is,
if
it's
non-emergency
work
and
staff
are
proposing
that
it
be
done
between
10:00
p.m.
and
7:00
a.m.
there
would
need
to
be
a
discussion
about
it.
O
So
and
I
think
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
that,
because
I
have
the
gardener
and
a
big
chunk
of
my
ward,
where
we
deal
with
this
a
lot.
So
what
you're
saying
is
that
if
there
was
a
desire
to
do
non-emergency
government
work,
there
would
need
to
be
a
process
to
look
at
that,
rather
than
just
assuming
that
it
will
take
place
overnight.
That's.
T
D
T
Well,
the
hypothetical
question:
could
that
be
possible
in
some
rare
instance,
it's
possible
again
and
my
experience
that
hasn't
been
in
fact
in
you
know
one
case
very
recently
having
to
do
with
Yonge
Street.
The
project
was
reduced
from
10
weeks
to
three
to
four
weeks
and
with
the
financial
saving
of
a
million
dollars.
So
it
you
know
recently-
and
you
would
be
aware
of
this
councillor
Pasternak
on
Bathurst
Street.
T
T
Currently,
the
city
is
not
at
all
exempt
from
noise
bylaw
period,
except
for
emergency
work.
The
staff
are
recommending
removing
that
exemption,
so
that
so
that,
if
we
adopt
the
staff
recommendations,
council
will
be
giving
the
city
the
ability
to
as
of
right
make
whatever
construction
noise
it
wants.
Whatever
it
wants
to
make
it
I,
don't
think
that's
a
reasonable
thing
for
the
city
to
be
doing
so.
T
I
What
we
want
to
do
is
encourage
the
applicants
to
begin
that
work
early
in
the
day
so
that
hopefully
they
can
complete
it
before
the
evening
so
I
believe
that's
a
friendly
amendment
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
consult
with
a
counselor
before
moving
that
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
this
remarkable
volume
of
work.
I.
Don't
think
that
the
report
before
us
even
begin
to
summarize
the
the
amount
of
active
listening
and
engagement
that
they
had
to
undertake
in
order
for
them
to
lead
this
bylaw
review,
Toronto
Municipal,
Code,
Chapter,
five,
nine
one!
I
It's
it's
something
that
we
speak
about
lots
in
our
office,
especially
as
a
downtown
office
and
in
2013
I,
moved
emotion,
asking
for
a
review
of
this
bylaw
recognizing
that
it
had
not
been
actively
and
broadly
reviewed
since
2012.
What
I
did
not
anticipate
my
staff
did
not
anticipate
is
that
it
would
take
three
years
until
2016,
when
the
staff
would
be
able
to
turn
their
heads
to
the
two
conducting
the
strategy
for
consultation
and
then
and
then
take
underway
the
broad,
deep
analysis
that
was
required.
I
They
had
to
get
into
some
very
technical
things
that
they
were
not
accustomed
to
doing
and
I
think
that
what's
before
us
now,
17
years
since
the
last
time,
the
bylaw,
the
noise
bylaw,
was
actively
reviewed
and
majorly
overhauled.
We
have
a
series
of
recommendations
that
gives
us
a
lot
more
power
and
the
things
that
we
have
and
and
I
should
also
thank
my
staff,
former
staff,
Sheila
Pardo
who's
actually
now
crossed
the
Atlantic
Ocean.
It
was
actually
her
original
motion.
I
She
was
dealing
with
motorcycle
noise
in
the
village
of
Yorkville,
which
is
kind
of
what
kicked
it
off.
Then
we
started
to
get
an
avalanche
of
complaints
around
construction
noise,
especially
for
those
operators
that
were
beginning
construction
before
7:00
p.m.
and
then
Lorraine
Hewitt
from
my
office,
who
has
been
so
patient
and
steadfast
in
monitoring
the
activity
and
responding
to
constituents
within
our
community
and
then
outside
of
our
community
to
make
sure
that
people
felt
that
they
were
actively
heard
and
and
that
their
comments
were
well-received.
I
Interestingly
enough,
I
think
it's
important
for
us,
madam
speaker,
for
us
to
recognize
what
was
not
here
in
2002.
What
was
not
in
this
bylaw
in
2002
was
the
authority
to
request
noise
monitoring,
which
is
now
here
in
17
years
later
in
the
2019
by
law.
The
new
bylaw
proposed
before
us
is
now
the
request
for
noise
mitigation
plans.
These
are
things
that
we
were
did
not
have
the
authority
and
we
did
not
pursue
we,
and
we
will
now
have
those
powers
we.
Q
I
Have
the
powers
to
exempt
permits?
We've
always
been
able
to
do
that
for
for
some
applications,
but
there
was
never
the
the
authority
to
do
a
lot
more
broadly.
We
are
now
able
to
proactively
proactively
madam
Speaker
mitigate
noise
and
where
noise
contravenes
what
is
permitted,
we
will
now
see
mls,
increasing
fines
and
penalty.
So
let's
take
a
look
at
what
those
fines
and
penalties
were
in
the
the
old
bylaw
in
the
old
bylaw.
I
If
you
contravene
the
noise
bylaw,
you
would
be
given
a
fine
of
about
a
hundred
and
fifty-five
to
three
hundred
and
five
dollars,
and
this
would
be
through
proactive
enforcement
developers
and
those
who
violated
the
noise
bylaw
sought
as
a
as
a
cost
of
just
doing
business.
They
were
going
to
tear
it
up
in
the
bylaw
meant
absolutely
nothing
to
them.
Well,
the
poor
communities
were
asked
through
a
very
inefficient
3-1-1
system
to
document
and
write
down
in
a
paper
log
all
the
ways
that
this,
this
repeat
offender
was
violating
the
noise
bylaw.
F
I
What's
proposed
before
us
today
will
see
fines
of
up
to
$100,000.
I
would
think
that
the
the
general
contractor
the
project
manager
on
that
on
that
development
site
is
gonna
think
twice,
and
that
means
that
they're
gonna
hold
their
third
party
contractors
to
greater
account.
This
bylaw
is
as
good
as
it's
going
to
get
and
I
believe
that
we
should
be
supporting
it.
Thank.
K
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
I
have
a
motion
that
I
was
asked
to
move,
that
City
Council,
add
a
definition
of
living
area
to
mean
any
area
that
includes
the
that
includes
the
premises
of
a
dwelling
or
a
work
space.
My
understanding
is
it's
a
technical
amendment,
though
that
was
was
coming
from
staff
yeah,
so
I
just
quickly,
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
I,
my
vote
in
favor
of
a
deferral
was
in
no
way
a
reflection.
K
I
hope
that
this
wasn't
taken
as
a
reflection
of
a
lack
of
of
confidence
in
what's
being
moved
forward,
but
instead
an
opportunity
for
us
to
I
kind
of
tied
together
and
knit
together
the
the
community
of
support,
on
the
one
hand,
we're
getting
we're
getting
concerns
from
some
of
the
neighbors
neighbor,
the
neighbors
that
have
been
working
very
strongly
on
this,
and
perhaps
some
of
it
was
a
misunderstanding
about
how
how
staff
came
to
certain
conclusions.
Perhaps
some
of
it
was
just
a
difference
of
opinion.
K
On
the
other
hand,
we've
got
industry
and,
and
the
development
community
saying
hey,
wait.
A
second,
don't
think
you
fully
appreciate
and
understand
what
why
and
what?
A
some
of
some
of
the
exemptions
meant
for
those
communities
and
what
would
be
added
on
to
it,
and
so
I
had
hoped
that,
through
a
deferral,
we
would
be
given
some
time
to
make
sure
that,
as
the
these
last
revisions
were
made,
that
they
were
being
done
in
a
in
a
more
thoughtful
process.
K
Having
said
that,
it's
in
front
of
us
I
like
the
direction
that
staff
have
taken
in
this.
There
are
some
motions
here,
though,
that
I
think
are
critical.
One
I
think
councillor
Krusty's
motion
helped
bring
us,
at
least
in
in
a
very
symbolic
way,
closer
to
what
the
community
wants
reflected
in
in
the
noise
bylaw
counselor
by
Laos
recommendation
addresses
some
of
the
issues
around
the
continuous
pour
that
both
both
addresses
the
neighbors
concerns
and,
at
the
same
time,
the
the
concerns
coming
from
industry
I.
K
Think
that's,
that's
critically
important
councillor
holidays
request
for
a
report
back
councillor,
Phil
Ian's,
request,
I.
Think
we'll
probably
get
mixed
support
on
on
the
council
floor,
though,
I
think
having
heard
directly
from
councillor
cressie
on
the
matter
he's
he
that
he's
struggled
with
with
work
in
a
downtown
neighborhood,
where
the
city
isn't
informing
the
the
local
councillor
or
the
community
of
work
that
they'll
be
undertaking
and
I
I
do
believe.
K
None
of
that
was,
they
didn't,
seek
approval
from
the
city
of
Girona
from
the
local
councillor,
and
they
certainly
would
have
got
it
because
the
work
needs
to
be
done,
but
then
the
final
motion
from
counts
long
time,
I
think
I,
add
some
clarification
that
that
that's
needed
look
every
year
at
budget
time,
I
ask
one
question
of
the
head
of
municipal
licensing
and
standards,
and
that
is:
do
you
have
the
necessary
resources
to
enforce
your
bylaws
year
after
year?
We've
gotten
well
we're
gonna
restructure.
We
think
we
could
do
it.
K
K
What
they
want
is
the
city
to
actually
be
there
when
they
call,
or
at
least
show
up
at
some
point
shortly
after
or
in
the
days
following
when
it
can't
be
something
that's
captured
24
hours
later,
and
they
want
to
pass
so
they
can
get
it
addressed
because
too
often
we've
got
we've.
We've
got
establishments
mostly
bars
or
clubs
that
won't
follow
the
noise
by
law.
Very
basically,
they
won't
shut
their
doors
and
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
send
people
out
all
the
time
and
check
on
them.
K
We've
got
construction
sites
and
I
took
over
after
councillor
want
a
man
in
in
in
York
in
Yorkville,
and
it's
constant
constant
calls
about
late
night
construction
noise
and
it's
not
because
it's
it's
just
late
night
noise
and
it's
not
that
they
shouldn't
have
any
like
that.
We
can
say:
oh
you
live
in
a
downtown
area.
No.
This
is
incredibly
loud.
Construction
noise
happening
at
very
close
proximity
to
other
residential
condominium
developments
that
we
have
approved.
Thank.
D
At
the
same
time,
we
must
make
sure
that
we
protect
our
neighborhoods.
We
respect
our
neighborhoods,
but
also
we
allow
commerce
to
continue
I,
think
Ana,
councillor
bellows,
a
motion
that
allows
for
the
continuous
pouring
of
concrete
allows
the
construction
industry
to
prosper.
It
allows
them
to
get
on
with
the
business
of
building
new
homes,
fixing
our
infrastructure
and,
at
the
same
time,
it
allows
them
to
finish
their
project
quicker.
We
can
put
chains
on
these
on
these
construction
companies
in
these
projects
and
it'll
just
stretch
out
the
paint.
D
The
complaints
will
go
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
They
will
be
more
intense,
they'll,
be
increased
aggravation
as
the
project
drags
on.
It's
important
to
let
construction
companies
get
on
with
the
work.
They're
doing
got
a
big
concern
about
councillor
fill-ins
motion
as
I
read
it,
the
projects
will
go
on
longer,
they
will
be
more
expensive
and
will
the
tie
the
hands
of
the
city
overall
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
work.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
they've
been
working
on
this
for
years,
their
staff
report
stretches
31
pages.
D
They
hired
outside
experts
to
get
opinions
from
them.
They
met
with
hundreds
of
constituents.
They
hired
consultants
that
looked
at
some
of
these
science
of
noise
by
law
and
I
think
they
brought
back
a
package
that
is
worthy
of
support
with,
of
course,
a
couple
of
amendments
here
once
again.
Just
to
conclude
I
would
say
that
councilor
Barlow's
is
a
crucial
amendment
to
allow
construction
projects
to
get
done
quickly.
Efficiency
with
the
least
cost
in
the
least
disruption
in
their
local
neighborhoods,
Thank.
Q
You
very
much
madam
Speaker
I'm
not
going
to
move
any
motions,
but
we'll
comment
on
some
a
little
bit
later,
I
first
of
all
want
to
thank
the
staff
as
a
chair
of
economic
and
Community
Development,
and
this
matter
came
through
our
committee.
We
had
lots
of
Deputies
who
came
to
speak
to
this
very
important
issue.
Noise
is
a
you
know,
an
important
issue
in
the
city.
It's
something
that's
very
positive
in
in
in
in
instances
and
negative
in
other
instances,
and
so
on.
Q
We
actually
derive
great
economic
benefits
from
noise
because
we're
a
music
city,
so
there's
noise
associated
with
that
I
understand
that
there
are
other
elements
of
noise
where
you
can
wear
ear,
plugs,
and/or,
headsets
and
so
on,
where
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
noise.
I
understand
that
as
well,
but
we
are
working
to
expand
the
economic
development
opportunity
and
benefits.
Q
That
being
said,
speaker
there's
no
doubt
that
noise
have
a
negative
impact
and
a
overall
impact
on
areas
of
the
community,
and
let
me
give
you
an
example:
in
my
ward:
every
year
there
is
an
event
that
takes
place
at
a
particular
bar
establishment.
It's
called
a
duck
off,
people
go
out,
they
cook
outside
duck
and
so
on,
and
they
make
lots
of
noise.
It
imitates
all
over
the
community
and
we've
done
the
measurements,
and
our
bylaw
right
now
isn't
helpful
to
help
us
with
that.
Q
This
new
proposed
amendment
to
the
the
bylaw
will
help
us
with
that.
I
also
draw
your
attention
speaker
to
the
fact
that
the
fines
that
are
going
to
be
incorporated-
that's
new
bylaw,
is
much
more
significant
and
I
think
people
will
actually
start
to
pay
attention.
Those
who
are
having
a
dramatically
negative
impact
on
our
community
as
a
whole
I
have
gone
through
the
list
speaker
because
number
of
emails
that
I've
received
when
we
were
dealing
with
this
particular
issue.
Q
Every
single
one
of
them
I've
sent
to
staff
for
their
comments,
and
they
have
addressed
it
each
one
of
them.
I
want
to
thank
mr.
grant
mr.
Strega
and
others
who
have
done
a
lot
of
work
and
the
whole
team
that
are
seeing
they're
in
the
in
the
gallery
over
the
last
five
years.
I
think
that,
probably
about
six
years
before
that
I'd
gone
to
the
one
of
the
meetings
to
deal
with
some
of
these
issues
at
Metro
Hall.
It's
very
contentious
at
that
point
at
committee.
Q
What
we
just
dealt
with
this
matter
a
couple
weeks
ago
gave
staff
the
opportunity
to
work
with
community
groups,
as
well
as
the
construction
trade
organization
build
and
others
to
deal
with
some
of
the
issues
and
the
motion
that
councillor
Barlow
has
moved
forward,
really
addresses
and
helps
that
particular
issue.
I
will
be
supporting
councilor
bylaws
motion.
I
will
be
supporting
councilor
holidays
motions,
which
is
very
helpful
in
collaboration
with
staff,
in
order
to
review
the
bylaw
itself
and
to
report
back
in
the
fourth
quarter
in
2020.
Q
I
will
not
be
supporting
motion
five
by
councillor.
Fillion
I
believe
that
this
particular
motion
will
end
up
costing
us
as
a
city
a
lot
more
money,
not
a
situation
where
the
mayor
actually
work
on
the
Gardner
and
believe
you
did.
The
overnight
reduce
the
construction
time
reduce
the
amount
of
monies
that
this
city
would
have
had
to
pay
and
I
think
that
this
particular
motion
is
not
very
helpful
to
us.
Clearly,
we've
heard
from
council
Presley
and
others
in
Swan
when
we
actually
as
a
style,
especially
doing
city
work.
Q
We
always
take
into
consideration
the
interests
of
the
people
that
were
trying
to
help,
which
is
the
residents
of
Toronto,
an
emergency
response
and
so
on.
I
think
it's
extremely
important
I
will
be
supporting
and
ask
members
to
support
the
motion
by
council,
wong-tam
I
think
that's
actually
helpful.
The
motion
by
counselor
counselor
Layton
and
that
staff
has
asked
to
move
forward
with
on
the
workplace
living
area.
I
think
that's
fine.
Q
Q
Holidays
motion
speaks
to
that
and
we'll
create
that
opportunity
for
us.
So
I
ask
you
to
support.
What's
actually
in
front
of
us
and
again,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff,
because
they've
spent
a
lot
time,
it's
probably
next
to
the
King
Street
polit
program,
one
of
the
most
research
initiative
and
pro
initiative
that
we
have
actually
undertaken
with
respect
to
dealing
with
the
matter.
That's
in
front
of
us
here
at
Council.
So
this
noise
bylaw
needs
to
be
supported
by
staff
and
to
ensure
that
the
residents
understand
we're
always
working
to
refine
it.
B
B
A
deferral
is
simply
because
we
were
told
yesterday
in
no
uncertain
terms
by
staff
that
this
was
just
not
going
to
achieve
anything
in
the
context
of
trying
to
come
up
with
better
answers,
because
they've
worked
and
worked
and
worked,
and
work
and
I
went
to
some
in
this
room
did
to
one
of
the
public
consultations,
and
it
was
clear
from
that,
as
it
often
is
in
these
meetings,
that
you
know
that
there
were
different
groups
of
people
there.
But
there
were
some
people
who
probably
no
matter
what
we
recommended.
B
We're
never
gonna
be
satisfied,
and
so
that's
fair
enough
and
that's
why
you
have
these
meetings.
I
should
just
say
that
the
motions
that
I
will
support
I,
don't
think
I'm
leaving
any
out
here.
Councillor
Wong
Tams,
deputy
mayor
bylaws,
councillor,
Layton's,
councilor,
prezzies
I.
Think
these
all
make
a
useful
contribution
to
a
better
regime,
the
one
that
I
will
not
support-
and
it's
for
reasons
alluded
to
by
deputy
mayor
Thompson-
is
councillor
Phil,
Ian's
and
I.
Guess
it
is.
B
For
this
reason,
I
first
of
all,
I
take
considerable
heart,
because
I
know
it's
true
from
what
I
heard
counts
for
latency
I
believe,
which
is
that
in
almost
every
case.
In
any
event,
there
is
an
engagement
as
between
city
staff
and
the
councillor
that
happens
and
that
the
thoughts
of
councillors
on
these
matters
are
taken
into
account.
B
But
I
think
the
point
made
by
councillor
deputy
mayor
Thompson
is
also
important,
which
is
that
I
actually
believe
from
having
talked
to
a
lot
of
people,
and
you
all
do
too
in
your
local
areas
that
people
on
balance
not
unanimously,
because
there
is
no
such
thing
as
unanimity.
On
this
thing,
people
on
balance
would
rather,
we
got
the
work
done
whenever
we
can
sooner
within
reason.
You
know
they're
not
saying
well.
If
it
was
gonna,
be
those
would
he
call
those
jackhammers
going
all
night,
six
or
eight
of
them
outside
their
door?
B
That
was
the
main
thing
that
was
carried
up
amazing
numbers
of
stories
up
into
the
air,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
didn't
really.
We
made
a
few
calls
some
of
us
did,
but
on
balance
we
were
quite
prepared
to
accept
it,
because
we
knew
that
by
having
the
work
happen
over
extended
hours,
it
was
going
to
get
done
sooner
and
it
wasn't
so
much
because
they
even
used
the
ramp.
They
just
wanted
it
over
with,
and
so
we've
been
very
careful
as
a
city.
B
I
will
certainly
take
responsibility
for
being
the
person
who
came
in
here
as
mayor
and
said.
We
should
be
using
extended
hours
more
often
and
even
24
hours
whenever
possible,
but
that
we
try
to
do
that
in
a
pragmatic
considerate
way,
and
it
does
involve
discussion
in
many
cases,
if
not
all
with
the
local
councillor,
and
there
have
been
instances
in
which
work
being
done.
A
A
A
C
D
D
S
A
A
R
I
can
try
so
committee
of
adjustment,
as
many
people
know,
we
has
increased
dramatically
like
ninety
six
percent
over
the
last
eight
years,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
for
here
is
an
end
end
review
of
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
including
in
the
public
consultations,
residents
and
associations.
R
Number
two
is
really
looking
at
the
time
period,
overly
accessible
to
residents
when
that's
happening
in
the
morning,
so
having
staff
review
the
timings
of
the
hearings
and
thirdly,
just
a
simple
request
of
getting
it
up
on
the
website,
other
on
T
lab,
etc.
Have
these
documents
etc
accessible
to
the
public
up
on
the
website,
we're
still
not
quite
there
yet
so
just
a
push
to
get
stuff
to
get
that
up
and
running.
So
thank.
A
You
can
follow
you
asking
questions.
Okay,
then
it's
not
a
quick
item.
I
wanted
to
release
yeah
yeah.
It
is
all
right.
So
you'll
have
to
walk
to
wait
after
lunch.
Then
you
can
ask
the
question:
counselor
perks.
Did
you
want
ask
question
as
well:
yeah,
okay,
so
after
lunch,
okay,
all
right
recess
to
two
o'clock.