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Economic and Community Development Committee, meeting 6, June 26, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
Agenda and background materials:
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Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlqH2o6MTDs
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0:06:35 - Call to order
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The
economic
and
Community
Development
Committee
acknowledges
the
land
we
are
meeting
on
is
a
traditional
territory
of
many
nations,
including
the
Mississauga
of
the
credits,
the
IANA
Schwabe,
the
Chippewa
and
the
Hooda
Shawnee,
and
the
wind
at
people's
and
is
now
home
to
many
diverse
First,
Nations
Inuit
matey's
people.
We
also
acknowledge
that
Toronto
is
covered
by
the
treaty
13,
with
the
Mississauga
of
the
credits.
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All
right
so
members
are:
is
there
anyone
with
a
declaration
of
contra
conflict
of
interests
on
the
miscible
compact
of
interests
act
as
anyone
have
a
conflict
seeing
none?
Thank
you.
Confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
the
May
2729
teen,
meeting
Vice
Chair
Grimes
is
moving
at
all
those
in
favor
opposed.
That's
carried,
okay,
so
members
we
are
moving
right
ahead
with
respect
to
the
agenda.
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A
So
I'm
gonna
introduce
the
new
business
item.
It
is
supporting
three
significant
events
in
Toronto
in
a
in
the
2019
period
and
the
details
are
contained
in
the
in
the
report,
all
right.
So
all
those
in
favor
and
adding
this
item
as
new
business.
Suppose
that's
carried
Thank
You
councillor
Carol
good
morning.
Welcome
good
to
see
you
alright
members
I'm
going
to
vet
the
agenda.
Please
hold
any
items
that
you
wish
and
counsel.
Carol
I
saw
your
lists
no
problem,
but
you're
here
exactly
so:
okay,
let's,
let's
start
EC
6.1.
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I've
read
it
out
as
yet
recruitment
effort
related
to
aquatic
programs.
What's
a
members,
okay,
councillor
kreskis
moving
receipt,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
it's
carried.
Thank
you.
Ec
6.2,
implementation
of
the
growth
plan
and
community
recreation
status
update.
Let's
say
this
is
where
information
vice-chair
Grimes
is
moving
recede.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you.
A
Ii
see
6.3
Agincourt
recreation
center
status,
update
counsel,
I
hold
okay
slice
holding
that
item,
II
see
6.4
children,
services,
2019,
provincial
and
federal
budgets.
That
item
has
a
number
of
speakers,
so
we
will
hold
that
item
EC
6.5
termination
of
occupancy
agreement
with
school
board.
Again
we
have
speakers
on
that
item,
so
be
holding
that
item.
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A
Ec
6.7
appointment
to
business
improvement
area,
Board
of
Management,
my
pleasant
village,
BIA,
okay,
councillor
Carol's
moving
the
item:
oh
okay,
let's
we
have
a
name,
that's
being
added
counsel.
Carol
is
moving
the
Adam
all
those
in
favor.
Well,
that's
carried
Thank
You
councillor
Carol
EC
6.8,
strengthening
Toronto's
Knight
economy.
We
have
speakers
on
this
item,
so
we
will
be
holding
that.
C
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A
So
maybe
just
ask
the
clerk
to
put
the
motion
on
the
on
the
screen:
we're
going
to
receive
money
to
basically
fund
and
the
implementation
of
the
Justice
Center
in
the
downtown
and
east
and
northeast
area,
the
City
of
Toronto,
so
the
Ministry
of
the
Attorney
General
is
actually
obviously
continuing
to
work
with
us,
and
so
this
is
good
news.
This
is
eventually
yes,
yes,
that's
what
I
said.
It's
good
news,
okay,
so
the
motions
on
the
screen,
all
those
in
favor
of
motion.
A
All
right,
so
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
and
the
good
news
proposed-
that's
carried
all
right
and
I
want
to
thank
the
province
of
the
Ministry
of
the
Attorney
General.
Thank
you,
I'm.
Not
touching
that
EC
6.13
Toronto's
action
plan
to
confront
anti
black
racism
update
we're
going
to
hold
that
item.
We
have
several
speakers.
A
Okay,
moving
right
along
to
EC
6.4
teen
youth
service
review
directions.
Report.
This
item
is
here
for
information.
Okay,
councillor
cressie
wishes
to
hold
this
item.
Does
that
one
of
yours
as
well:
counselor
Carol,
oh
okay,
fair
enough
yeah!
So
okay
I
just
had
to
check
your
list
so
councillor,
Carol,
I've
held
it
in
your
name,
okay
and
of
course,
because
your
seatmates,
you
guys,
can
share
that
great.
So.
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Yeah,
okay,
so
this
was
was
held
over
from
EC
6.21.
That's
the
Toronto
economic
bulletin.
Let's
say
you
do,
shall
we
hold
this
you're
good,
so
we'll
adopt
move
to
adopt?
Then
it's
it's
gonna
come
to
Council
yeah,
move
to
it
up.
Okay,
councillor
Carol's
will
be
to
adopt
all
those
in
favor
opposed,
that's
Kerry!
Thank
you
and.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
ICI
6.22
formation
of
a
Business
Improvement
area
in
Scarborough
east
of
McGowan.
This
is
a
letter
from
councillor
Ainsley
councilor,
Aames
II
was
going
to
attempt
to
make
it
here,
but
he
has
suggested
to
the
clerk
we
adopt
this.
He
doesn't
have
to
come
and
speak
and
so
councilor
drives
you're
gonna
move
this.
Why
sure
grunge
is
moving
all
those
in
favor
opposed
X
carry
okay!
Thank
you.
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Why
that's
fine,
well
I
just
want
to
make
sure
members
that
all
the
pointed
questions
that
are
pointed
to
me
that
you'll
have
to
ask
those
before
the
lunch
break,
because
I
won't
be
here
after
vice-chair
Grimes
will
be
taking
the
chair,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
discuss
any
issues
that
you
may
have
on
this
all
right.
So
we
are
moving
back
to
the
beginning.
A
So
counselor
why
we
are
moving
to
EC
six
point:
three,
which
is
the
aging
Court
Recreation
Center
status
updates.
So
do
you
have
questions
of
staff?
Okay,
so
are
we
good
members,
EC
6.3,
Agincourt
community
center
service
update
counselor
law?
You
have
five
minutes
questions
of
staff,
I'm,
not
sure
which
staff
is
going
to
answer,
but
Parks
and
Recreation
stops
are
here.
F
C
F
A
A
A
It's
fine.
We
will
hold
it
down
and
move
to
the
next
item
when
we
can
come
back
to
this
after
we've
concluded
the
next
the
next
item.
Okay,
so
we
are
then
moving
to
the
next
item:
ec
6.5,
the
termination
of
occupancy
agreement
with
school
board.
Sorry,
six
point:
four
sorry:
I'm
heading
myself,
there
vice-chair
Grimes
six
point:
four:
the
children
services,
2019,
provincial
and
federal
budget
I'm,
looking
for
following
speakers,
Caroline
ferns,
the
Ontario
Coalition
for
better
childcare
and
also
Jane
Mercer,
the
Toronto
Coalition
for
better
childcare
hi.
How
are
you
here?
A
Are
you
Carolyn
excellent?
Thank
you,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
here
before
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak.
The
clock
to
your
left
will
show
you
the
time
and
members
may
have
questions
off
you
once
you
are
finished
speaking
and
you
may
answer
those
questions
as
you
wish.
Okay,
thank
you
good
morning
and
welcome
I.
G
Think
good
morning,
chair
Johnson
committee
members,
my
name
is
Carolyn
ferns
and
I'm.
Here
on
behalf
of
the
Ontario
Coalition
for
better
childcare,
we
represent
hundreds
of
nonprofit
childcare
programs
across
the
province,
as
well
as
provincial
organizations
and
individual
parents
and
educators
advocating
for
better
childcare
in
Ontario.
So
let's
talk
about
the
provincial
budget.
Back
in
April
the
day
that
the
provincial
budget
came
down,
the
childcare
community
was
left
scratching
our
heads
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
were
on
that
day,
there
was
so
little
details,
so
little
clarity
that
it
wasn't
clear
to
anyone.
G
G
You
truly
are
childcare,
trampy
ins
for
that,
and
you
made
a
difference
now.
I
wish
that
I
could
say
that
things
are
going
to
get
easier
now,
but
we
know
that
the
clock
is
ticking,
that
the
cuts
have
just
been
put
on
hold
and
that
our
greatest
challenges
are
yet
to
come.
The
staff
report
in
front
of
us
this
morning
talks
about
the
changes
that
the
province
is
making
that
could
impact
51,
planned
childcare
programs
over
3,000
childcare
spaces
to
receive
the
provinces
promised
capital
funding.
G
The
province
is
made
of
change
and
is
now
requiring
that
municipalities
confirm
that
they
can
find
the
operating
funding
from
was
it
within
their
existing
funding
envelope.
So
this
puts
municipalities.
It
puts
the
City
of
Toronto
in
an
impossible
position,
because
the
province
has
just
changed
the
rules
in
the
middle
of
the
game
again.
G
So
as
a
first
step,
I
agree
with
staffs
recommendation
that
more
time
is
needed,
so
that
there
can
be
an
opportunity
to
secure
the
funding.
That's
needed
for
these
projects
to
go
ahead
for
these
3,000
childcare
spaces
to
go
ahead,
and
let
me
be
clear:
they
must
go
ahead.
I
know
there
can
be
a
temptation
to
batten
down
the
hatches
at
times
like
this,
but
that's
not
who
we
are.
That's
not
how
we
push
back
successfully
against
the
cuts
to
childcare
this
spring.
We
know
what
our
city
needs.
G
We
have
a
childcare
growth
and
we
know
that
our
system
must
grow
to
serve
more
families.
Deputy
mayor
Thompson,
think
back
to
that
press
conference
here
at
City
Hall
at
the
beginning
of
May.
There
was
a
mother
and
her
18
month
old,
hear
that
mother
Sinead
said
that
she
had
been
on
waiting
lists
for
childcare
since
she
was
pregnant
and
she
was
still
waiting.
She
said
and
I
quote:
I
have
never
felt
so
powerless
without
an
income,
and
my
partner
and
I
are
running
out
of
our
savings.
Trying
to
make
ends
meet
now.
G
These
51
planned
childcare.
Centers
might
not
be
able
to
help
Sinead
and
her
son
today,
but
they
will
help
women
who
might
just
be
getting
their
pregnancy
results
today
and
are
thinking
about
how
they
could
possibly
grow
their
family
and
still
live
and
work
in
our
city.
So
I'm
challenging
each
of
you
here
today
to
work
to
secure
the
funding
needed
for
these
programs.
G
Our
organization
has
hearing
it
been
hearing
about
other
cases
across
the
province
where
small
towns
so
close
to
getting
their
very
first
childcare
program
are
having
their
hopes
sorted
by
this
change
from
the
province.
So
this
must
be
challenged
and
no
that
will
be
challenging
it
at
the
provincial
level.
G
I
can
assure
you
of
that,
but
we
need
Toronto's
leadership
again
and
I
call
on
each
of
you
here
to
do
what
you
can
to
challenge
it
here
in
Toronto
and
make
sure
that
our
childcare
system
can
continue
to
serve
more
of
Toronto's
families
and
not
less
so.
In
closing,
Toronto
has
years
of
service
planning
experience,
expert
reports,
an
amazing
childcare
growth
strategy.
We
know
that
our
city
needs.
We
know
what
our
city
and
our
children
need.
G
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Was
deferred,
thank
you.
Okay
now
in
reading
the
report,
but
there
still
is
a
reduction
in
some
funding.
I
see
a
base
reduction
in
allocation
funding
of
3.1
million
the
end
of
the
fee
stabilization
program,
resulting
in
a
reduction
of
8.3
million,
a
reduction
in
the
wage
enhancement
program
of
400,000.
If
you
know
my
quick
math
8.7,
that's
that's
nearly
12
million
dollars
in
a
reduction
of
funding
in
year.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
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My
understanding
and
maybe
Shanley
or
Karen,
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
the
wage
enhancement
was
an
application
based
program.
So
if
money
would,
if
that
money
would
have
flowed
to
us
and
the
childcare
operators
would
have
applied
for
funding,
and
we
would
have
been
able
to
grant
that
funding
since
we're
not
getting
that
money,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
accept
applications
from
the
childcare
community.
Okay,.
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H
The
chair
that's
correct
if
we
can't
find
other
ways
of
coming
up
with
savings
and
we
are
working
as
a
city
not
only
as
we're
not
only
looking
within
Children's
Services
we're
looking
across
community
and
social
services
and
the
other
divisions
and
trying
to
work
together
on
how
best
we
navigate
our
way
forward.
In
2020.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chair
I'm,
just
gonna
be
going
back
to
a
report
last
year.
I
know
this
particularly
I'm
proving
two
on
federal
budgets,
but
there
was
a
report
that
came
to
City
Council
last
year
to
the
audit
committee
and
I
have
in
front
of
me
opportunities
to
achieve
greater
value
for
child
care
from
public
funds,
and
it
called
for
roughly
the
other
general
recommending
about
twenty-eight
point.
Two
million
dollar
million
dollars
in
savings
did
City
Council
act
on
that
report
last
term.
H
Through
the
chair
council
afford
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
review,
is
that
the
recommendation
on
y'all
in
Canada
one?
Yes,
the
on
your
journals
recommended.
Okay,
so
that
recommendation
asked
Children's
Services
to
conduct
a
review
of
our
municipal
operated
programs.
We've
done
an
RFP
and
we're
just
in
the
process
of
having
that
final
sign-off.
So
that
will
start
shortly
and
when,
when.
C
E
E
H
E
H
The
chair,
I'm
I,
don't
think
I
understand
the
term
occupancy.
Are
you
talking
about
an
occupancy
grant
because
those
programs
that
are
operated
in
the
school
boards
do
not
they're
not
charged
a
lease
amount?
So
it's
their
operating
costs,
their
operating
costs
increase
year-over-year,
primarily
because
they
have
a
unionized
work
environment
that
there
are
city
funding
that
we
receive
from
the
province.
Doesn't
keep
pace
to
that
increase.
I
hope
that's
clear.
E
It
is
except
that
what
what
I'm,
not
understanding,
what
what
someone
from
the
TDSB
told
me
was
that
if,
if
we
continue
to
fund
the
occupancy
grant,
we
also
affect
them,
because
in
their
Education
Act
square
footage
calculations
they're,
taking
the
space
that
is
allotted
for
early
on
centers
and
hiving
it
out
of
school
square
footage
programming
calculations
and
putting
it
with
our
child
care.
Centers.
Is
that
true
or
is?
Is
that
a
lack
of
understanding
on
the
on
the
trustee
that
I
spoke
to
is
part
so.
H
E
H
E
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D
Right,
Thank,
You
mr.
chair
and
I
have
a
motion
if
it
can
be
put
on
the
screen.
The
first
is
to
direct
the
GMA
Children
Services,
to
report
to
our
October
meeting
of
this
committee,
with
an
update
on
service
impacts
based
on
these
funding
changes,
as
we've
heard
here
today,
we
know
there
are
impacts.
We
need
a
full
update
on
what
those
are,
after
we've
done,
our
due
diligence.
D
The
second
is
requesting
the
general
manager
of
Children
Services
to
report
to
the
September
meeting
on
the
status
regarding
these
early
on
programs
that,
without
warning
or
notice,
the
TDSB
based
on
their
own
funding
challenges
have
said
we're
not
going
to
provide
these
anymore.
The
city
you
take
it
up.
Well,
it's
a
big
problem
as
well.
D
Child
care
and
I'll
speak
very
briefly,
because
we
have
a
full
agenda.
Child
care
should
be
accessible
and
affordable.
It's
just
that
simple
in
a
country
and
a
city
like
ours
to
think
that
you
have
to
debate
whether
or
not
to
have
children
and
how
many
children
to
have
and
whether
or
not
to
go
back
to
work,
because
you
cannot,
because
you
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
afford
child
care,
is
simply
unacceptable
and
we
have
a
waiting
list.
D
15,000
people
looking
for
subsidies,
people
who
cannot
access
subsidies
right
now
and
so
every
month
our
forces
being
forced
to
spend
more
than
they
can
afford
to
ensure
that
their
children
have
a
place
to
go
to
learn
and
so
that
they,
as
parents,
can
make
that
choice,
and
that's
just
for
people.
Looking
for
subsidies,
let
alone
those
who,
in
theory,
can
afford
to
pay
the
average
price
for
infant
child
care
in
the
city
is
two
thousand
dollars
a
month.
D
Infant
child
care,
the
average
price
for
toddler
child
care
is
in
the
realm
of
sixteen
to
eighteen
hundred
dollars
a
month.
How
can
people
afford
that?
And
it's?
It's
now
become
child
care,
the
most
expensive
in
Toronto
of
anywhere
in
Canada,
and
so
in
that
context,
this
council,
we
worked
really
hard
to
come
up
with
our
growth
plan,
a
growth
plan
to
ensure
that
we
were
reducing
the
subsidy
waiting
list.
D
E
It
puts
me
in
mind
of
the
old,
create
a
crisis
and
and
then
you
can
fix
it,
except
that
we
were
already
in
crisis
systems.
The
systems
not
broken,
but
it's
certainly
in
crisis.
It
needs
a
lot
of
spaces.
What
I
see
in
saying
to
us
and
tell
us
right
now,
you
got
to
tell
us,
you
know
the
limited
amount
of
time
in
which
to
tell
us
that
you
want
to
expand
by
5151
that
childcare
centers.
E
E
Some
of
those
centers
want
to
get
in
there
because
they're
in
a
reputable
place
and
and
they
could
charge
what
the
market
is
charging
right
now
and
yet
others
really
well-meaning.
Small
for-profit
operators
have
have
a
sort
of
conflated
idea
that
that
inside
the
school
pays,
spaces
occupancy
is
free
and
that
they
are
suddenly
going
to
be
able
to
operate
a
cheap
Center
and
still
pull
a
profit
out
of
it,
and
those
small
operators
that
that
really
are
laboring
under
some
misunderstandings
are
going
to
end
up
in
difficult
situations.
E
Because
I
have
a
you
know,
a
long
back
in
history,
understanding
of
the
the
education
facilities
funding
formula,
but
it
is
impacting
that,
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
from
speaking
to
current
day,
TDSB
trustees,
and
so
we
have
to
beg
for
the
time
to
extend
that
to
extend
that.
That
deadline
by
which
we've
got
to
we've
got
to
expand.
I'm,
not
sure
that
staff
have
asked
for
enough
time.
E
I
think
we
should
be
asking
them
until
the
end
of
the
calendar
year,
but
I
think
if
we
get
the
report
back
in
the
time
frames
that
councilor
cressie
is
moving.
Then
if
we
have
to
do
something
drastic
and
on
an
emergency
basis.
We'll
know
in
time
to
do
so.
If
those
motions
report
back
to
us
in
that
timely
fashion,
so
I'm
happy
to
support
those.
E
But
I
really
hope
that
people
will
we'll
keep
that
in
mind
when
they're
asking
us
what
we
should
do
next,
that
the
their
ultimate
goal
is
to
have
us
build
a
bunch
of
spaces
with
taxpayer
dollars
and
then
and
see
a
flow
of
four
profit
centers
moving
into
what
we
built
with
public
funds.
Thank
you,
I
thank.
A
You
very
much
councillor
Carroll
anyone
else
to
speak.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
add
my
voice
to
this
issue
and
clearly
to
support
the
motion
that
councillor
cressie
has
put
forward.
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
what
has
been
said,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
extremely
important
that
we
recognize
as
a
need
for
shared
responsibility
to
understand
the
real
value
in
terms
of
what
this
notion
of
shared
responsibility
is
in
terms
of
how
we
help
our
children.
It's
really.
A
This
is
what
it's
all
about
and
helping
the
parents
who,
as
it's
been
described,
have
challenges
spending
whether
or
not
it's
1800
or
two
thousand
dollars
a
month,
and
god
forbids
you,
have
two
children
and-
and
you
have
to
be
spending
this
sort
of
money
and
you're
not
making
anywhere
near
the
type
of
income
to
allow
you
to
be
able
to
to
take.
You
know
this
measure
of
paying
for
fees
for
the
this
service.
Oh
yeah,
I,
don't
want
to
say
this
in
in
the
sense
that
characterizing
this
notion.
A
We
had
the
war
on
cars
and
now
it's
a
war
on
children,
and
it
makes
no
sense
whatsoever.
It
has
such
impact
on
our
society
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
our
children
are
being
cared
for
and
that
parents
who
wishes
to
go
to
work
and
to
be
part
of
the
economic
development
in
our
society
are
given
that
opportunity,
and
so
it
strikes
me
as
being
really
odd
that
everyone
is
seeming
to
punt
this
away
and
suggesting
it's
not
their
responsibility.
A
It
is
all
of
our
shared
sponsibility
to
address
this
issue,
and
so
we're
not
going
to
shy
away
from
what
needs
to
be
done
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
hope
that
the
province
clearly,
the
school
board
is
well
recognized.
What
their
responsibilities
are
to
work
with
us
so
that
we
can
actually
help
those
families
to
help
their
children,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
these
are
our
children,
our
community
responsibility,
to
protect
their
interests
and,
in
fact,
Children's.
A
And
hopefully
we
are
able
to
get
to
a
an
island
somewhere
where
we
can
land
and
we
can
all
agree
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
we
can
get
this
funding
formula
in
place
so
that
everyone
can
obviously
address
the
important
issues
which
is
to
protect
our
children.
So
we
have
a
motion
from
counselor
Cressy.
A
Know
do
you
want
to
record
the
vote?
You're
good
I.
Think
we're
good.
So
does
anybody
want
to
record
the
vote?
We're
good?
Okay,
that's
fine!
We
don't
need
a
record
what
okay,
so
on
the
item
we're
voting
on
the
item
now
because
we
voted
on
the
end
on
the
amendment,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment.
Okay.
A
F
J
We
have
valued
the
loss
at
about
14
million
dollars,
the
first
five
million
of
that
14
will
be
paid
by
the
city
of
Toronto
as
a
deductible
amount
on
the
insurance
policy
that
we
have
in
place,
and
the
remaining
nine
million
will
come
from
the
insurance
company
FM
global
insurance
company
towards
that
loss.
So
things
are
on
track.
J
The
status
of
the
repairs
are
sort
of
fall
into
three
categories:
there's
emergency
services,
repairs
which
involve
things
like
the
roof,
demolition,
refrigeration,
electrical
work
in
the
area
to
get
the
arena
up
and
running
the
heat
system
and
and
the
alarms
that
are
needed
for
the
facility.
There's
an
environmental
component.
J
The
insurance
people
are
working
with
the
Ministry
of
the
Environment
to
monitor
contaminants
of
the
from
the
debris
to
ensure
that
we're
compliant
with
all
ministry
requirements,
and
then
the
mechanical
and
electrical
repairs
follow
that.
So
the
arena
is
on
track
for
opening
on
September.
1St
2019
and
the
Aquatic
recreation
center
is
on
track
for
opening
September
1st
2020.
F
J
Yes,
that's
that's
correct
once
it's
it's
it's
a
combined
effort
through
the
charity
combined
effort
we're
initially
the
city
has
a
contract
with
an
insurance.
Adjusting
firm
called
claims.
Pro
claims
Pro
is
on
site,
managing
the
work
and
there's
a
number
of
firms
involved
that
are
engaged
through
the
insurance
and
an
FM
Global
has
an
adjuster
on
site
as
well
that
monitors.
F
J
Through
the
chair,
this
is
the
report
we
have
a
before
us
today
from
the
insurance
adjuster,
that
those
are
the
timelines
they
seem
doable.
The
insurance
people
will
be
working
with
PF
and
our
capital
folks
to
determine
if
there's
any
changes
or
any
improvements
that
are
needed
and
that
will
be
factored
in
as
well,
but
based
on
the
work
that's
been,
you
know
going
on
to
date,
the
September
1st
2019
for
the
arena
and
for
2020
for
the
Aquatic
and
Rec
Center.
Do
they
do
seem
doable
yes
and.
F
Also,
in
terms
of
the
repair
and
the
restoration,
the
report
here
says
that
we
can
actually
provide
them
with
the
design
and
construction
drawings
and
for
review
and
approval.
Does
that
mean
that
we
can
actually
update
the
center
whatever?
However,
we
wanted
to
do
it
or
is
it
a
some
restriction
on
Act's
so.
C
Through
the
through
the
chair,
as
as
Jeff
is
indicated,
there's
a
large
insurance
component
of
this
that
we'll
be
paying
for
the
restoration
from
the
fire.
We
are
also
working
with
the
community
center
staff
and
with
our
Capitol
staff
to
identify
some
upgrades
that
can
be
done
so,
while
that
work
is
being
done,
we
can
also
refresh
a
number
of
areas
in
the
community
center.
F
C
E
Just
a
quick
question
because
we
would
definitely
it
sounds
like
we're
really
prioritizing
the
rebuilding
of
this
they've
just
wanted
to
check.
Are
we
picking
up
some
of
our
some
of
the
design
principles
that
we've
learned
since
the
building
of
this,
so
that
we're
adding
in
some
of
the
equity
pieces
like
such
as
we
have
at
Regent
Park
things
like
that.
C
Through
the
chair,
we're
updating,
wherever
we
can
within
the
budget
that
we
have,
but
we
are
trying
to
stay
true
to
the
restoration
that
that
is
being
done
through
the
claim.
So
the
building
itself
won't
have
any
huge,
significant
change,
but
we
are
looking
at
more
cosmetic
upgrades
to
the
whole
building
when
the
rebuild
is
being
done.
E
Okay,
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
do
such
things
as
as
doing
that,
because
that
it's
sort
of
the
old
school
family
change
room
idea.
There
was
wondering
if
you
could
switch
to
the
weird
center
idea
of
family
in
the
middle,
so
that
they're
not
all
separated,
is
there?
Is
there
an
ability
to
look
at
doing
that?
Sure.
C
Well,
we're
doing
that
design
with
claims
Pro.
We
can
certainly
have
a
look
at
some
of
those
things
if
they
can
be
incorporated
within
the
existing
sort
of
footprint
of
the
change
room
areas
and
we'll
have
a
look
at
that
as
the
design
comes
forward,
noting
that
if
it
requires
any
major
sort
of
redesign
of
the
actual
floor
plan
of
the
building,
it
would
be
sort
of
out
of
scope
of
the
claim
that
goes
forward.
C
J
The
chair,
so
each
year,
corporate
finance
conducts
a
cost-benefit
analysis.
If
you
well
between
the
premium
that
the
city
pays
for
the
insurance
policy,
the
amount
of
losses
that
we
expect
to
have
under
that
insurance
policy
and
we
achieve
a
an
optimal,
an
optimal
balance
between
the
amount
of
premium
we
pay
and
the
retained
losses,
and
we've
determined
that
and
we've
reviewed
this
many
times.
J
We
in
effect
do
it
annually
and
we
determined
that,
through
the
values
that
we
insure
at
the
City
of
Toronto
17
billion
dollars
in
insurable
value
through
everything,
everything
the
city
owns
is
under
one
insurance
policy
and
we've
determined
that
this
is
an
appropriate
level
of
deductible
and
we
have
an
insurance
reserve
fund.
That's
funded
through
contribution
by
divisional
operating
budgets.
That
is
sufficient
enough
to
to
carry
us
through
on
a
large
loss
like
this.
Okay.
A
F
Oh,
thank
you
mr.
chair,
I,
guess
I
would
be
brief
and
I
just
I
said
I
I
really
like
to
thank
staff
for,
for
you
know
getting
this
into
this,
so
prompt
and
expedient
way
of
dealing
with
this
community
center,
because
it's
really
important
for
my
community
to
have
actually
with
the
other
Ward
as
well,
were
22
and
what
23
so
I
really
was
very
happy
to
to
see
that
they
will
I.
Think
I'm.
Sure
the
resident
will
will
be
very
happy
to
hear
that
this
will
be
reconstructed
and
you
know
repaired.
F
This
year
and
then
next
year
I
mean
September
2020
will
have
the
community
center
in
the
pool
back
into
place
and
and
especially
that
we
can
actually
consult
in
them
to
to
make
it
even
better
cosmetically
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
are
happy
and
then
hopefully
we'll
will.
You
know
start
with
consult
us
and
we'll
give
it
to
to
have
a
facelift
for
the
aging
community
center.
Thank
you
so.
E
E
Every
kid
wants
to
go
to
the
pool
with
the
pirate
ship,
so
I
spent
many
many
weekends
there
and
and
many
weekdays,
even
on
a
weekday
when
I
was
earning
my
childcare
and
the
pool
was
brand-new
lining
up
to
get
in
the
family,
change
room,
the
common
area,
family,
lockers
and
then
go
this
way
to
get
to
the
private
change
rooms
at
Regent.
Park
is
not
just
state-of-the-art.
E
It
is
a
major
equity
piece
and
I
can't
imagine
that
it's
that
much
more
expensive
that
it's
that
that
what
it
what
it
serves
us
in
moving
families
through
must
count
for
something,
and
so,
if
there's
any
way
to
fold
it
into
the
plan,
while
we're
rebuilding,
please
please,
please.
That's
all
I
can
say
on
behalf
of
mothers,
with
multiple
kids
everywhere.
A
Councillor
Carroll,
okay
cell
members,
all
those
in
favor
ya
know
folks,
that's
Kerry!
Thank
you.
Alright!
Moving
right
along,
we
are
now
moving
to
EC
60.5,
a
termination
of
occupancy
agreement
with
school
board.
I
have
two
speakers
on
my
lists.
The
name
of
the
first
speaker
is
Amy
O'neill
treetops,
Children's
Centre.
The
next
speaker
is
after
miss
O'neill
is
Jane
Mercer
no
I
have
we
had
miss
Mercer
on
another
item,
you're
here
excellent.
Thank
you
good
morning.
Miss
O'neill
and
welcome
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
been
here
before
I've.
A
Given
me
instruction
to
everyone
which
is
similar,
which
is
the
clocks
on
your
left.
You
have
five
minutes
to
speak
after
you've
concluded
you're
speaking
members
of
committee
or
non-members
may
ask
you
questions
and
at
that
time
you
may
respond
and
so
on.
According
to
how
you
desire,
you
may
begin
men.
Thank.
B
You,
my
name
is
Amy
O'neill
and
I'm.
The
childcare
director
at
treetops
Children's
Center
we're
a
licensed,
nonprofit
community-based
childcare
located
in
Midtown
Toronto.
We
serve
approximately
150
children
from
the
ages
of
two
and
a
half
to
ten
and
I.
Think
councillor
Christian
counselor
Carol
for
bringing
up
the
affordability
and
accessibility
issue,
as
I
can
say,
firsthand
that
I
currently
have
hundreds
of
families
on
my
waiting
list.
B
Even
for
children,
starting
in
preschool,
which
is
two
and
a
half,
so
families
that
are
currently
pregnant,
their
baby
hasn't
even
been
born,
have
now
put
their
name
on
a
waiting
list
for
three
and
a
half
years
in
advance.
So
I
sit
here
today
with
a
sense,
a
sense
of
deja
vu
about
the
proposal
that
Children's
Services
is
recommending
to
end
the
occupancy
grant
for
childcare
located
in
schools.
I
believe
I
was
probably
sitting
here
two
years
ago
in
2017
talking
about
the
same
issue.
B
Parents
in
this
city
simply
can't
afford
this
I'm
here
today
to
urge
you
to
reverse
this
proposal.
We
know
from
what's
happened
in
the
last
couple
of
months
that
Toronto
is
in
a
childcare
crisis.
I
applaud
city
staff
and
counselors
here
that
took
on
the
leadership
for
the
reversal
of
the
childcare
funding
cuts
with
the
provincial
government.
However,
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go.
B
There
are
licensed
childcare
spaces
for
only
20%
of
children
in
this
city,
and
we
know
that
childcare,
even
those
who
can
afford
it,
who
can
find
it
is
absolutely
unaffordable
for
75%
of
families.
I
wouldn't
be
in
my
position
today,
if
15
20
years
ago,
I
didn't
have
subsidised,
affordable
childcare,
when
my
four
children
were
young,
so
there's
a
lot
more
childcare
spaces
needed
and
affordability
continues
to
be
the
main
issue.
B
We
can't
afford
to
lose
one
childcare
space
in
this
city
and
see
the
fees
go
up
by
even
$1
as
a
parent
as
a
registered
early
childhood
educator
and
as
a
childcare
director
I'm
shocked,
the
council
would
even
consider
eliminating
the
childcare
occupancy
grant
for
Toronto
in
schools
and
use
those
same
funds
to
eliminate
the
childcare
deficit
imposed
by
the
provincial
government.
For
my
Center
alone,
this
will
add
approximately
$40,000
for
our
yearly
expenses
in
2020.
If
this
goes
ahead,
my
board
will
be
writing
a
letter
to
council
and
the
mayor
about
this.
B
The
only
way
that
we
will
be
able
to
survive
that
40,000
in
additional
expenses
is
to
raise
our
parent
fees.
The
removal
of
the
occupancy
grant
would
make
regulated
childcare
even
more
expensive
for
those
families
paying
full
fee
and
I
just
like
to
give
a
caveat
that
my
Center,
the
current
the
center
that
I
currently
run
is
primarily
a
full
fee
Center,
so
we
maybe
have
about
25
percent
of
our
families
that
are
subsidized
I'm
and
it's
the
full
fee,
faint
paying
families
that
would
be
affected.
B
So,
at
a
time
when
council
has
approved
a
ten-year
growth
strategy,
the
city
should
be
looking
at
ways
to
work
with
the
provincial
government
and
expand
licensed
childcare
to
be
accessible
to
more
families.
It's
shameful
and
short-sighted
to
balance
the
city
budget
with
provincial
childcare
dollars,
download
costs
on
to
the
parents
and
finally
open
up
an
agreement
where
costs
were
fixed
in
1998,
with
the
TDSB,
exposing
parents
and
the
city
taxpayers
to
soaring
costs
at
the
mercy
of
the
school
boards.
B
B
B
A
A
L
My
name
is
Jayne
Mercer
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Toronto
Coalition
for
better
child
care,
we're
a
community
network
that
supports
close
to
20,000
that
the
nonprofit
child
care
programs
in
Toronto
membership
also
includes
licensed
home
child
care
providers,
Family
Resource
programs,
welfare
agencies
and
children's
services.
Organizations.
I
too,
would
like
to
start
by
thanking
of
most
sincerely
our
mayor
and
councillor
Thompson.
As
chair
of
this
committee
for
the
strong
leadership
view
and
the
steadfast
commitment
you
showed
to
child
care
in
Toronto
when
we
were
hit
with
those
devastating
provincial
cuts.
L
The
speed
with
which
you
responded
has
not
only
saved
our
child
care
system
in
2019,
but
will
prove
to
have
been
a
critical
moment
as
we
move
forward
to
protect,
improve
and
grow
the
childcare
system
that
families
in
Toronto
so
desperately
need
childcare
is
a
very
complex
system.
It
involves
provincial
funding
and
city
funding,
in-kind
funding
and
collaboration
with
the
school
boards.
We
have
over
a
thousand
community
childcare
programs.
L
We
have
subsidized
and
full
fee
paying
parents,
we
deal
with
pardons
and
grants
and
legislation
from
several
departments
or
layers
of
government,
but
if
we
can
cut
through
all
of
that
and
remember
the
parent
voice,
it
will
be.
We
need
to
hang
on
to
every
child
care
dollar
every
space,
every
subsidy
and
every
grunt
parent
fees
cannot
go
up
and
salaries
cannot
go
down.
L
So
speaking
to
the
occupancy
grants
that
you
have
with
the
school
board,
I
wanted
to
remind
you
that
this
has
come
to
Council
so
many
times
before
and
the
reason
it's
being
shot
down.
It
is
a
solid
agreement
negotiated
on
behalf
of
the
349
childcare
programs
we
had
in
schools
in
1998
and
the
rate
you
pay
has
indeed
been
locked
in
at
the
1998
rate
of
650
per
square
foot.
For
the
last
two
decades.
We
should
be
working
to
get
more
childcare
programs
under
this
umbrella
agreement.
L
If
you
end
this
agreement,
18,000
full
fee
paying
parents
in
these
boards
right
across
the
city
will
take
an
extraordinary
hit.
Your
staff
estimate
the
costs
at
about
300
dollars
a
year
for
each
chart.
We
fear
it
could
be
way
higher
and
Toronto's
families,
as
we
know,
already
pay
the
highest
childcare
fees
in
the
country.
Opening
up
this
agreement
exposes
parents
and
the
city
taxpayers
for
soaring
costs
at
the
mercy
of
the
school
boards,
and
we
no
longer
have
the
strength
of
the
City
of
Toronto
in
our
corner
to
negotiate.
L
L
Secondly,
just
speaking
quickly
to
the
item
EC
6.5,
we
support
the
staff
recommendation
to
ask
the
province
to
extend
the
deadline
to
October,
31st
and
I
would
agree
with
I.
Think
it
was
councillor
Carroll.
That
said,
we
probably
need
much
more
realistically
to
be
able
to
hang
on
before
to
the
end
of
the
year.
Before
we
respond,
we
need
to
do
everything
possible
to
accept
those
provincial
capital
dollars
in
2019.
It
will
expand
our
system
by
three
thousand
five
hundred
spaces.
L
They
will
come
online
and
they
will
need
to
be
operated
over
the
next
number
of
years,
but
again
remember
for
every
space
you
build.
One
of
them
will
end
up
going
to
a
full
keep
paying
parent.
One
of
them
will
end
up
going
to
a
subsidized
parent.
We
can
do
this.
We
have
to
grow
the
system
whilst
we're
offered
the
dollars
and
they
will
come
online
in
2020
21:22.
L
A
E
L
E
Now
I
didn't
ask
I,
didn't
ask
a
question
of
Amy,
but
but
but
you
know,
part
of
the
struggle
we
face
is
I
and
I'm,
not
sure
people
understand
the
plight
of
the
full
fee.
Paying
parent
tree-tops
is
at
Eglinton
and
chaplain.
So,
where
people
picture
well-heeled,
have
parents
but
a
full
fee,
if
you're
a
family
with
two
kids
and
you're
paying
full
fee,
you
could
live
at
Eglinton
and
chaplain
and
have
200,000
a
year
between
you.
It's
still
unaffordable.
That's
where
we're
at
right
now.
L
Absolutely
I
mean
I
think
the
whole
concept
of
a
full
fee,
paying
parent.
It
gives
the
impression
that
yeah,
wealthy
individuals
they
are
not
many
of
them-
will
have
their
names
on
that
subsidy
waiting
list.
They
are
desperately
waiting,
yes,
subsidy,
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
it
because
we
don't
have
enough
subsidies
right
and
so
they,
but
they
struggle
to
keep
paying
that
fee.
L
They
may
be
up
at
Bayview
and
Eglinton
or
anywhere
else
in
Eglinton
across
the
city,
but
they
may
be
paying
exorbitant
rents
in
an
apartment
right
in
a
house,
and
so
we
don't
know
the
circumstances
behind
each
family.
We
do
know
that
young
families
find
this
city
increasingly
unaffordable
and
if
they
cannot
afford
the
rent,
they
cannot
afford
the
child
care
they're
gone.
Yes,
they
moved
to
Hamilton
right
and
that
exodus
of
young
families
thirties.
You
know
families
in
their
30s
right.
This
is
killing
them.
Thank.
E
A
A
D
D
349
childcare
locations,
35%
of
the
broader
licensed
childcare
community
through
the
chair.
Yes,
okay,
how
many
do
we
have
a
broad
ballpark
of
how
many
how
many
kids
are
receiving
child
care
in
these
349
locations
through
the
chair
over
1,800?
So
this
would
impact
around
8,000.
Thank
you,
18,000
kids.
In
these
349
locations,
we
just
threw
the
chair.
D
H
Through
the
chair
to
go
back
and
clarify
the
number
of
children
who
are
currently
using
those
spaces,
18,000
420
yep
when
that
occupancy
grant
is
terminated,
it
becomes
an
allowable
expense
in
an
operator's
budget.
Currently,
65
percent
of
childcare
programs
in
the
City
of
Toronto
include
rent
as
an
allowable
expense.
35
percent
in
the
sector
are
covered
on
the
occupancy
grant
and
therefore
don't
need
to
claim
rent
in
their
allowable
expenses.
D
H
Through
the
chair,
under
our
agreement
with
this
for
school
boards,
we
were
to
notify
them
July
our
June
3rd,
and
that
has
happened.
I
just
want
to
clarify
when
council
extended
the
funding
it
did
so
only
for
the
two
years,
as
always,
and
during
those
two
years
we
were
to
try
and
advocate
with
the
province
to
change
their
funding
formula
to
pick
up
these
costs
that
two
years
is
expiring
at
the
end
of
this
year.
So
in
order
to
adhere
to
councils
direction,
we'd
have
to
provide
six
months
notice.
So.
D
H
My
recollection
of
the
council
direction
is
to
extent
that
they
would
extend
two
years
while
we
advocate
for
the
province.
Don't
pick
up
the
floor
of
the
amend
their
funding
formula
and
it
was.
It
was
only
contemplated
as
one
time
because
it
was
those
two
years
are
funded
from
a
reserve.
No,
there
was
no
contemplation
that
permanent
funding
would
be
restored
in
order
to
continue
this
agreement.
So
I
just
I
took
some
time
to
just
review
that
decision,
and
that
is
our
interpretation
of
that
direction.
D
H
D
E
E
E
Position
here
we're
in
our
50s
and
we're
not
really
understanding
how
hard
this
is,
even
if
you
have
two
decent
incomes,
and
so
the
arguments
are
and
I
think
the
problem
is.
Wouldn't
you
agree
that
that
you
know
as
hard
as
they're
trying
to
explain
it
to
people
a
dollar
thirty
five
days,
so
three
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
year
and
people
are
going,
you
made
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
between
the
two
of
you
and
they're,
not
understanding
the
burden.
H
The
through
the
chair,
we
could
certainly
do
that.
That's
very
difficult,
because
you'd
have
to
actually
go
in
and
look
at
each
individual's
individual
circumstances,
even
though
you're
making
two
hundred
thousand
some
may
say,
given
their
financial
situation
and
we
they've
invested
their
funds,
they
can
accommodate
that
other
people
with
two
hundred
thousand
would
say.
Given
my
expenses,
my
overhead
I
can't
afford
that.
So
that
varies
for
each
individual,
even
though
they
have
the
same
income,
you'd
be
just
making
guesstimate.
A
Looking
forward
counsel
Carol,
thank
you
any
further
questions.
I
just
have
one
then
for
the
DCM,
madam
DCM
you've
indicated,
and
your
reports
very
clear,
you're,
responding
back
to
a
decision
that
counselors
made
and
you're
providing
an
update
in
essence
to
the
logical
conclusion
based
on
the
direction
that's
been
given
to
staff
by
counsel
at
the
end
and
the
six-month
notification,
and
so
on
and
I
get
all
bad.
A
However,
one
of
the
points
that
you
did
make
in
your
comment
was
that
there
had
been
direction
in
Council,
given
you
direction
to
work
with
the
province,
it's
not
clear
to
me
what
is
and
what
had
been
and
how
things
progress
in
your
effort
to
your
efforts
to
try
to
bring
the
province
to
the
table.
No
I
asked
this
question,
given
the
fact
that
it
is
not
just
this
government,
that's
in
place
that
you've
had
to
deal
with,
you
had
to
deal
with
another
government
that
was
in
place
and
so
on.
A
H
A
D
D
E
I
think
I
think
you
hear
the
passion
that
you
heard
defending
this
motion
because
councillor
crises
of
that
generation,
multiple
times
I
had
had
people
walk
through
with
me.
How
could
I
do
this?
How
could
I
possibly
have
two
kids
and
and
here's
how
they
do
it
honest
to
god
multiple
times
people
have
walked
me
through
this
baby?
One
is
born
in
2018
and
pick
your
year
committee.
Your
baby
one
is
born
in
2018
and
then
suddenly
you
might
have
a
mortgage
payment
or
a
rent.
E
We
would
max
out
our
credit
card
so
fast
because
that
would
be
more
overhead
than
we
have,
but
they
take
on
that
1,200
a
month
and
that
gets
them
through
the
preschool
years
and
if
they're,
really
careful,
I've
heard
of
couples
actually
being
careful
and
then
using
a
darn
old
school
basal
thermometer
to
make
sure
the
child
too
comes
exactly
three
years
later,
because
then,
and
only
then
they
work
it
out.
So
they
go
into
their
maternity
leave
and
which
means
their
salary
drops
a
little
bit.
They
go
into
their
maternity
leave.
E
Just
as
baby
one
is
heading
into
kindergarten
so
that
he
will
have
a
lower
rate
and
so
that
matches
their
their
drop
in
salary.
And
then,
when
that
year
is
up
and
now
baby
and
baby
wonder
going
back,
they've
suddenly
got
to
carry
the
the
full
amount
of
two
kids
but
they've
timed
it
out.
So
the
baby
is
a
little
older,
and
so
it's
not
another
2,000
a
month.
They
can
get
it
down
to
where
it's
only
1700
a
month.
E
God
forbid
anything
happened
to
their
car
because
they
ended
up
taking
on
more
debt
than
they
already
have
to
own
a
house
in
this
city
to
keep
that
alive
and
they
can't
live
without
the
car
because
they
gotta
get
two
babies
from
here
to
here,
because
that
was
the
only
child
care
center.
That
would
take
them
to
their
where
their
job
is.
That's
the
life
of
a
full
fee,
paying
parent
with
two
kids.
E
So
we
can't
mess
with
that
they're
already
so
fragile
and
so
I
know
that
there
are
some
who
are
really
well-heeled,
but
in
the
main,
in
the
average,
that's
what
they're
going
through
and
having
to
time
it
out
so
the
350
dollars
that
sounds
like
well,
it's
not
that
much
of
your
full
fee
paying
parent.
Yes,
it
is
because
they're
already
on
the
brink
and
on
the
brink
for
several
years,
if
they're
going
to
have
two
kids
three
years
apart,
which
they
have
to
because
that's
the
only
way
they
can
possibly
swing
this.
E
So
this
seems
like
a
little
thing
at
five
million
dollars,
but
it's
huge
and
that's
why
you're
gonna
hear
counsel
continue
again
and
again
and
again
to
say
no,
there
has
to
be
a
better
way
to
do
this,
and
if
there
isn't,
we
got
to
man
up
and
tax
for
it
and
pay
it
and
keep
going
as
we're
doing.
Thank
you.
I
thank.
A
You
know
it's
thematically.
The
conversation
here
is
that
look
we've
got
to
do
a
better
job
in
terms
of
insuring
and
protecting
the
affordability
of
child
care
in
this
city,
and
it
always
appears
that
the
buck
seems
to
stop
here
and
the
question
is:
where
else
should
it
stop
and
I
realize
that
we
don't
have
all
the
resources
that
we
need
and
want
to
provide
all
the
services
that
we
want,
or
our
residents
and
so
on?
A
But
I
think
that
when
it
comes
to
this
issue
around
child
care
and
providing
services
for
our
children,
I,
don't
think
that
we
should
be
passing
the
political
football.
Quite
frankly,
because
we've
seen
that
at
Queen's
Park
it
doesn't
matter
whether
or
not
it's
a
Liberal
government
or
Conservative
government.
There
seems
to
be
a
particular
focus
in
terms
of
their
principle
in
terms
of
I'm,
not
sure
what
their
principle
is,
quite
frankly
in
terms
of
what
they're
protecting,
but
it
really
isn't.
A
Childcare
and
I
guess
saving
a
few
dollars
and
I'm
all
about
saving
money,
but
at
the
same
time,
not
at
the
expense
of
our
children.
And
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
draw
this
line
where
we
fully
States
and
reinforce
that
we
won't
accept
these
kind
of
situation
or
conditions
that
have
such
dramatic
impact
on
our
children,
our
children,
our
valuable
resources-
and
you
may
not
be
the
parent
of
that
child,
but
in
a
paternalistic
Society,
which
I
believe
we
are.
A
It
is
all
of
our
responsibility
to
ensure
that
children
are
taken
care
of
and
it's
the
pressure,
the
impact
we
know
on
the
parents.
Councillor
Carol
just
described
it
perfectly.
You
have
to
time
yourself
in
terms
of
when
you
have
children
and
in
terms
of
affordability,
that
it's
not
acceptable
in
my
view,
and
so
I
believe
that
we
have
to
do
more
and
to
simply
walk
away
from
this
process,
because
we
have
put
forward
a
motion
that
said
well,
we'll
fund
it
for
two
years
and
then
that's
the
end
of
it.
A
Well,
it's
not
because
to
do
so
being
the
end
of
it,
18
thousand
four
hundred
and
twenty
young
children
will
be
impacted
greatly
in
a
city
that
just
celebrated
a
world
champions:
ship
basketball,
win
with
vast
amount
of
resources
and
parades
and
what-have-you.
Well,
let's
have
some
parades
for
our
children.
Let's
make
sure
that
they
understand
that
they're
number
one!
That's
our
championship,
I
drank
some!
Thank
you.
So
III.
A
A
D
A
C
A
Okay,
so
the
Adam
has
been
adopted.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right,
so
we
are
moving
on
now
to
the
next
item.
Just
before
we
move
on
members,
there
are
actually
two
people
here
that
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
one
because
I've
just
seen
him
and
I
think
he's
really
seen
me.
Yet
we
haven't
acknowledged
him,
but
he's
one
of
my
local
heroes
and
that's
mr.
Winston
LaRose
he's
here
with
the
Hat.
Mr.,
oh,
so
thank
you
good
to
see
you.
A
He
has,
he
has
been
such
a
distinguished
gentleman
in
working
for
young
people
in
the
Jane
and
Finch
area,
and
so
on
and
I
just
recognize
that
you
were
here.
Mr.
La
Rose,
not
you
know,
I'm
a
great
fan
of
yours,
we're
good
friends
and
I
want
to
just
to
thank
you
for
being
here,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
I
hope,
I'm
here
to
hear
you
speak
I
may
not,
but
if
I'm
not,
it
is
not
because
of
anything
other.
That's
just
that.
I
have
something
else,
but
I
have
to
do.
A
And
it
is,
you
know,
as
I
said
bittersweet
that
we
have
to
say
I,
guess
so
long
for
now
to
a
great
contributor
who
has
done
so
much
for
young
people
in
this
city
and
communities.
Quite
frankly,
under
his
leadership,
Social
Development
and
Finance
has
been
a
go-to
area
in
this
city,
and
I
simply
wanted
to
acknowledge
Chris
Berlin
juror
for
his
outstanding
work.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Chris
I
will
never
forget
the
day
in
2003
in
December
summer
of
the
gun
that
followed
later,
but
we
were
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
terms
of
this
area
and
the
things
that
we
were
able
to
do
in
accomplish
and
so
Anna.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
great
contribution.
Thank
you.
Alright.
Moving
right
along
members,
we
are
now
going
to
item
EC
6.8,
strengthening
Toronto's
Knight
economy.
I
have
on
my
list
at
the
moment
three
speakers.
A
The
first
speaker
is
Tracy
Jenkins,
Lulu,
lounge,
Lulla,
Music
and
Arts
Center
miss
Jenkins
you're.
Here
here
we
are
thank
you
now.
You'll
have
five
minutes,
miss
Jenkins
and
if
you
would
take
a
close
look
to
the
laughs
of
that
clock
and
the
timer
is
there
and
we
welcome
you
to
committee.
You
may
begin.
H
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
Tracy
Jenkinson
for
the
past
17
years,
I've
been
part
of
the
team
that
runs
the
Toronto
live
music
venue,
Lula
lounge
and
they
associated
not-for-profit
Lula
Music
and
Art
Center,
located
on
Dundas
West
each
year,
Lula
presents
or
hosts
more
than
400
concerts
workshops,
fundraisers,
community
events
and
dance
classes.
Our
focus
is
on
Latin
and
Brazilian
music,
but
we
host
every
genre
of
music.
Our
activities
create
about
3,500
performance
opportunities
for
artists.
Each
year
we
employ
approximately
30
full
and
part-time
staff.
H
Each
year
our
programming
reaches
about
70,000
people.
Our
surveys
indicate
that
approximately
20%
of
our
clients
come
from
out
of
town
and
that
many
of
them
visit
Toronto
specifically
to
attend
our
concerts.
So,
although
we
are
a
small
business,
the
density
of
our
activity
translates
to
a
significant
economic
impact
on
our
local
community.
Last
year
we
spent
almost
a
million
dollars
on
Toronto
based
artists,
technical
personnel,
hospitality
and
administrative
staff,
music
industry
service
providers,
local
contractors
I
think
that
most
other
midsize
venues
must
make
similar
contributions
to
the
local
economy.
H
Since
all
of
this
investment
is
made
in
activities
taking
place
between
6
p.m.
and
6
a.m.
we
were
happy
to
participate
in
the
stakeholder
consultations
that
helped
to
shape
the
Toronto
nightlife
action
plan
and
to
witness
how
the
plan
has
been
informed
by
a
variety
of
stakeholders
on
behalf
of
Lula
I'd
like
to
express
her
support
for
the
Toronto
night-night
life
action
plan,
as
we
believe
that
its
implementation
would
positively
impact
businesses
such
as
ours.
We
have
experienced
many
of
the
challenges
for
live
music
venues
that
are
described
in
the
report.
H
H
The
development
of
industry,
best
practices
recommended
in
the
Toronto
sociable
city
at
night
report
would
be
a
great
asset
for
venue.
Operators
such
as
Lula
we've
been
doing
our
best
to
develop
our
own
policies
and
procedures
for
safer
spaces
and
working
with
neighbors
to
resolve
issues,
but
we
would
very
much
welcome
expertise
and
guidance
in
these
areas.
H
The
pilot,
art
arts
event
pop-up
permit
described
in
the
recommendations
would
help
to
foster
the
type
of
emerging
artistic
and
industry
talent
that
midsize
and
large
venues
such
as
ours
are
ultimately
dependent
upon.
So
we
look
forward
to
seeing
the
city
implement
this
a
comprehensive
plan
that
would
take
into
account
all
of
the
previous
studies
to
music
and
nightlife
culture,
review
the
current
regulations
and
create
the
conditions
for
nightlife
to
thrive
in
Toronto.
Thank.
A
M
A
H
Thanks
for
asking
I
realized
that
I
didn't
address
the
recommendation
of
a
night
time,
ambassador
that's
made
in
the
recommendations
which
I
think
would
be
really
helpful.
Just
because
there
would
be
you
know,
one
one
person
who's
looking
at
all
all
the
different
areas
of
nightlife
yeah
could
help
us
to
kind
of
navigate
things
when
we're
not
sure
where
to
go
for
resources
or
if
we
run
up
against
some
regulation
that
we
can
see
is
presenting
challenges,
maybe
unnecessarily
just
to
have
a
one
person
to
go
to
a
resource.
E
If
that,
if
that
person
we
do
want
that,
we
do
want
to
actually
encourage
in
you
know,
bump
out
a
bit
and
have
have
the
strategy
looks
at
creating
pockets
of
nighttime
economy
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
So
the
nighttime
mayor
doesn't
help
from
downtown.
It's
not
a
big
thing,
but
but
do
we
need
some
participation
by
downtown
representatives
so
that
your
unique
challenges
are
understood.
Yeah
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
Yeah,
okay,
okay,
thank
you!
So
much
Tracy
q,
okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
it!
Thank
you
so
much
our
next
speaker
is
our
D
Spencer
settled
in
Spencer.
Are
you
here?
Did
you
see
him?
Okay?
So
that's
going
once
Spencer
settlin
going
twice
Spencer
settle
in
Spencer's,
not
here,
okay,
our
next
person
to
speak
and
I
apologize
in
advance
if
I
do
not
pronounce
the
name
properly
but
I
believe
it
to
be
patients
ever
Batou.
A
C
A
N
N
Now
the
designation
of
a
counselor
as
Toronto's
Knight
ambassador
is
a
very
crucial
and
I
believe
a
brilliant
idea,
brilliant
because
for
years
myself
and
the
menu
I
represent,
believe
Charro's
entertainment
sector
has
been
slept
on
and
it's
very
impressive
to
see
an
awakening.
However,
this
means
mayor
Tory
would
have
to
make
a
crucial
decision
when
designating
a
counselor
Toronto's
nine
ambassador
will
be
a
part
of
Toronto's
nightlife.
This
means
having
an
up
and
personal
look
on
leadership
between
that
member
of
council
and
the
rest
of
Toronto.
N
There
is
one
thing
we
must
consider
the
audience
the
people
who
are
directly
involved
in
bringing
these
productions
together.
I
guarantee
you
majority
are
youth
with
stories
that
they
have
tried
the
best
in
their
ability
to
tell
and
talent
in
all
forms
speaks
I,
encourage
you
all
to
read
the
article
on
Huffington
Post
that
my
friend
Brittany
I'm
Ophir.
Oh,
it's
headlined
the
very
way
cities
like
Toronto
are
very
way.
Cities
like
Toronto
are
run
is
making
inequality.
N
The
path
forward
is
connecting
people's
stories
and
how
city
govern
them
now,
you're,
probably
wondering
how
does
this
relate
to
what
we're
speaking
about
well
I
believe
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
talent,
like
I,
said
before
talent
in
all
forms
speaks
volumes
and
that's
something
that
a
lot
of
the
youth
in
the
city
of
Toronto
have
to
boast
about.
Although
all
parties
will
work
collectively
to
create
a
more
inclusive
entertainment
sector.
N
What's
crucial
is
understanding
how
significant
this
decision
and
representation
will
be
for
those
directly
impacted
some
advice
for
mayor
Tory
designate
a
member
of
council
who
has
proven
to
be
a
strong
connection
between
youth
youth,
entertainment
field
in
general
and
organizers
for
that
representative,
who
play
a
crucial
role
in
building
a
bridge
for
Toronto's
nightlife.
The
aim
of
assigning
a
nighttime
ambassador
means
creating
a
voice
and
being
that
bridge
as
I
read.
N
I
do
understand
that
the
nighttime
economy
is
often
overlooked,
and
municipal
on,
in
municipal
economics
and
infection
of
infrastructure
planning
and
as
a
result
of
market
forces
and
municipal
policies,
Toronto's
nighttime
culture
is
under
threat
from
increasing
business
costs
and
regulatory
challenges.
However,
as
this
committee
should
know,
other
world-class
cities
are
taking
the
appropriate
steps
to
plan,
sustain
and
execute
entertainment
related
activities.
Doing
so
does
merge
people
in
various
industries
together.
One
thing
I
believe
the
City
of
Toronto
needs
the
most
at
this
time
togetherness.
N
N
This
has
the
potential
over
the
years
with
such
action
to
drain
papa
performances
and
unconventional
spaces
industry
town
halls,
when
you
work
with
community
partners,
was
especially
it
brings
out.
Toronto's
culture,
talent,
potential
and,
above
all,
strengthens
Toronto's
population
and
entertainment,
or,
as
we
would
formerly
call
it
right
now.
The
nightlife,
which
is
the
aim
of
this
recommendation
and
I,
was
just
what
I
was
just
here
to
remind
you
guys,
all
of
that
and
to
pass
a
message
to
merit
or
a
bad
side.
N
Whoever
is
designated
for
this
role
is
going
to
play
such
a
crucial
role
in
the
city
of
Toronto's
future,
especially
amongst
the
youth,
because
the
youth
in
the
City
of
Toronto
are
incredibly
talented
and
are
looking
for
ways
to
express
themselves
and
are
looking
for
platforms
which
only
the
City
of
Toronto
can
give
them
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
Thank.
N
I,
wouldn't
want
to
undermine
any
relationship,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
the
relationship
with
the
youth
is
very
important,
because
these
are
these
are
ways
that
the
youth
express
themselves
there's
so
many
youth
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
who
are
looking
for
ways
to
express
themselves.
There
are
platforms
like
six
buzz
TV,
which
is
a
social
media
platform,
and
you
know
my
friends
are
the
founders
of
that
and
it's
amazing
how
they've
brought
a
whole
bunch
of
culture
together.
You
have
youth
connect,
you
know
via
social
media,
on
six
foot.
N
Six
bus
shares
a
lot
of
the
talents
from
the
city,
so
I
definitely
feel
like.
If
you
know
wherever
the
counselor
is
counselors
in
general
need
to
definitely
focus
on
creating
a
great
relationship
with
the
youth,
because
the
youth
in
the
City
of
Toronto
are
the
talent
that
Toronto
has,
and
you
know,
maybe
a
lot
may
say:
I,
don't
really
see
it
well,
it's
because
we
have
no
platforms,
and
once
we
have
platforms,
Toronto
will
change.
All
eyes
are
on
Toronto
right
now,
all
eyes
are
on
Toronto.
N
N
They
were
so
together
and
we
definitely
more
of
that
and
the
only
way
I
think
we
are
going
to
get
more
of
that
is
like
I
said
if
we
work
together
with
the
counters,
if
the
council's
work
together
with
the
youth
and
make
sure
you
amplify
their
voices,
not
just
their
voices
but
their
talent,
that
they
have,
that
is
waiting
to
be
exposed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
through
mr.
chair
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
start
by
asking
about
the
first
recommendation.
Where
talks
about
making
the
nighttime
ambassador
a
member
of
Council
I
know
there
was
reference
in
the
report
that
the
Paris
deputy
mayor
is
their
nighttime
ambassador.
But
when
I
look
at
the
other
list
of
cities
around
the
world
from
Tooley's
Zurich
London,
Amsterdam,
New,
York
Sydney,
they
all
have
appointed
nighttime
mayor's
or
they
have
citizens
that
go
through
an
interview
process
or
an
election
process.
So
I'm
trying
to
understand
where
the
councillor
recommendation
came
from
I'm.
I
I
It
also
allows
for
a
publicly
known
individual
to
be
a
touch
point
for
businesses
who
want
their
voices
heard
for
residents
who
want
their
voices
heard
and
to
work
with
with
media.
It's
also
very
important.
We
feel
that
they
have
ethical
and
professional
training,
that's
aligned
with
the
standards
of
City
Council.
There
are
many
examples
around
the
world
as
councillor
Ainsley
alluded
to
and
in
some
examples
there
has
been
the
perception
that
there
is
some
tension
between
the
appointed
person
and
council.
So
we
felt
that
having
a
councillor
in
the
role
would
address
that.
K
And
I
also
wanted
so
the
the
recommendation
about
pop-ups
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
You
know
they're
used
all
over
the
world,
not
just
in
cities
with
nighttime
ambassadors,
but
I
wanted
about
asked
about
Amsterdam
I
know.
One
of
the
concerns
in
Toronto
has
always
been
that
all
of
the
nightlife
is
downtown
in
Amsterdam
they,
which
has
a
population
of
about
a
million
and
a
half
people
what
they
did
was
they
licensed
ten
24-hour
locations
they
they
spread
them
out
across
the
city,
but
they
also
looked
at
locations
that
were
open
20.
K
I
The
committee
would
the
working
group
would
determine
what
they
would
look
at,
but
certainly
the
Amsterdam
model
is
one
of
the
most
inspiring.
The
fact
that
they
tied
licenses
to
community
givebacks,
like
using
these
spaces
for
derreck,
daycares
and
shared
workspaces,
is
really
great.
The
fact
that
they
did
this
for
locations
outside
the
core
locations
that
were
really
ready
to
embrace
more
nighttime
activations
is
also
really
great.
So
if
the
committee
wanted
to
look
at
some
of
the
best
examples
in
the
world,
they
would
most
certainly
look
at
Amsterdam.
Okay,.
K
And
then-
and
this
is
something
I've
been
pushing
for
since
2016-
the
concept
of
a
nighttime
ambassador-
the
one
part
of
this
whole
report-
that
kind
of
worries
me
is
the
funding
model
and
then,
regardless
of
whether
we
use
a
city
councillor
as
the
Ambassador
or
we
go
through
another
process,
a
lot
of
the
the
cities
that
I've
looked
at,
they
use
a
funding
model
of
all
they.
The
funding
is
split
between
the
city
or
the
municipality,
and
the
businesses
across
the
city
and
I
was
hoping.
We
could
look
at
something
more
like
that.
C
With
you
counselor-
and
we
will
look
at
that
through
a
variety
of
processes,
there
are
some
examples
that
are
successful
working
with
the
industry.
It's
just
a
question
of
getting
the
cooperation,
so
some
kind
of
public-private
partnership
makes
sense
in
this
case
because
it's
to
their
benefit
into
the
city's
benefit.
Okay,.
A
O
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair,
with
respect
to
the
strategy
that
is
before
us
I
sense
that
it
has
gone
through
a
lot
of
consultation.
It
is
very
broad
and-
and
there
is
a
vision
document
I
think
that
has
emerged
out
of
this
with
respect
to
the
ongoing
implementation
and
that
do-it-yourself
kit,
which
I
think
is
very
interesting.
How
do
you
envision
rolling
out.
I
Through
the
chair,
how
this
would
roll
out
would
be
principally
through
the
activation
of
the
Ambassador
and
also
through
an
activation
of
relevant
working
groups.
So
one
working
group
would
be
internal
to
City
Hall
with
all
of
the
relevant
parties,
everybody
from
municipal
licensing
and
standards,
planning,
transportation,
police
and
so
on,
and
another
working
group
and
the
two
would
often
be
combined
because
it's
important
that
they
hear
each
other,
which
would
be
DIY
event.
I
Organizers,
creative
producers,
venue
operators,
groups
that
represent
specific
communities
that
may
be
vulnerable
at
night,
such
as
women,
LGBTQ,
racialized
groups
and
so
on.
So
the
two
working
groups
would
work
with
the
Ambassador
to
really
determine
what
the
priorities
are
going
to
be
rolling
out
and.
I
Look
like
it's
such
a
good
question,
because
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
deal
with
is,
as
we
look
at
the
jurisdictions
around
the
world,
it's
very
difficult
to
find
financial
metrics
that
really
encapsulate
what
success
might
look
at.
It
might
look
like,
but
what
we
can
say
is
there
are
currently
barriers
that
people
in
that
business
owners
in
Toronto
deal
with
and
Tracy
Jenkins
from
Lula
lounge
alluded
to
some
of
them.
These
are
challenges
related
to
zoning
challenges
related
to
licensing
and
so
on.
I
If
at
minimum
we
can
say
that
we
removed
some
of
these
barriers
and
if,
in
addition
to
that,
we
can
say
that
we
have
successfully
applied
vision
that
has
extended
and
amplified
the
cultural
vibrancy
and
the
diversity
of
our
city
and
taken
advantage
of
the
other
9
to
5
that
we
have
as
patients
Ariba
who
said
if
we
have
served
youth
by
giving
them
platforms
to
perform
on
and
by
creating
cultural
vibrancy
in
this
city
that
draws
talented
youth
to
come
here
in
our
workforce,
then
we'll
know
we.
We
have
had
some
success
and.
O
So
the
vibrancy,
and
so
the
feasibility
this
night,
these
sort
of
do-it-yourself
pop
ups,
which
should
have
a
turnkey
approach
as
opposed
to
a
lot
of
bureaucratic
administration
before
somebody
overcomes
that
hurdle
to
start
the
the
business
or
the
venture
enterprise
to
even
open
the
doors
for
to
welcome
guests.
How?
How
will
you?
How
do
you
propose
to
eliminate
that?
Because
there
still
is
the
requirement,
obviously
to
do
some
consultation,
but
you
want
to
not
do
so
much
consultation
that
you
restrict
them
from
going
ahead
and
doing
it.
Yeah.
I
It's
a
matter
of
how
many
doors
you
have
to
knock
on
in
order
to
have
a
pop-up
event,
obviously
fire
and
police
and
licensing
and
safety,
and
all
of
that.
So
it's
a
matter
of
simplifying
that
process
through
the
music
office,
which
certainly
Tracy
Jenkins
remarks
were
very
appreciated.
With
regard
to
the
music
office
through
the
music
office,
some
of
these
initiatives
have
already
been
happening.
So
I
would
like
to
ask
Mike
Tanner
to
add
any
comments
you
might
wish
to
at
this
point.
Mike.
C
Thanks
through
the
chair
councillor,
long
Tim
Marguerite
is,
is
correct.
There
are
currently
a
lot
of
confusing
and
sometimes
lamenting
barriers
that
especially
DIY
event
promoters
have
to
jump
through
in
order
to
get
things
off
the
ground.
What
we
may
be
able
to
aim
at
is
a
more
streamlined
process
where,
where
permits
and
licenses
or
permits,
are
issued
to
promoters,
as
opposed
to
bricks
and
mortar
spaces,
because
the
very
nature
of
DIY
event
or
activity
is
that
its
nomadic,
it
doesn't
necessarily
reside
at
one
address.
People
go.
C
C
The
city,
spaces
parks,
libraries,
museums
or
spaces
that
are
controlled
by
merchants,
retailers,
empty
storefronts,
BIA
s
have
some
purview
over
some
of
that,
so
we're
trying
to
create
dialogue
and
from
that
dialogue
we
can
get
a
sense
of
where
some
of
the
challenges
are
working
with
our
colleagues
and
municipal
licensing
standards
we're
hoping
to
roll
out
something
that
feels
like
what
Vancouver
already
has,
which
is
an
arts
event
permit
system.
Okay,.
D
You
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
follow
up
specifically
in
recommendation
three.
This
is
to
direct
a
whole
series
of
city
officials,
MLS
and
City
Planning,
the
GM
of
EDC,
to
do
that.
Alignment
of
zoning
and
business
licensing
regulations
around
live
music.
When
do
we
expect
that
to
come
back,
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while.
I
was
pleased
to
see
it
here,
but
the
REC
here
is
for
something
to
come
back.
I
Yes,
so
our
aspiration
is
that
this
report
will
go
to
council
in
September
once
it
goes
to
council
in
September.
We
would
then
be
able
to
activate.
You
know,
pull
pulling
some
of
this
together,
so
the
work
on
it
would
start
at
that
point
in
time
in
terms
of
a
report
back
date.
I
don't
know
at
this
point
exactly
when
that
would
be
obviously
as
soon
as
possible,
yeah.
I
D
D
So
that
would
go
through
the
planning
and
Housing
Committee
and
it
says
here
in
2020,
so
in
the
agenda
forecast.
Do
we
know
when
we're
expecting
that
report
and
I
know
it's
complicated,
because
it's
MLS
at
TDC
at
City
Planning,
it's
everybody!
So
do
we
have
an
in
the
agenda
forecasts
or
an
expected
report
back
in
2020
on
that
I?
Don't.
C
F
D
Okay,
so
sometime
in
2020,
okay,
then
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
the
summit.
Councillor
Wong
Tam's
questions
around
our
DIY
spaces.
So
the
reports
here
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
the
DIY
events
in
Toronto
understanding
the
challenges,
there's
some
specific
recommendations
that
that
report
made
from
which
which
look
at
excellent
the
citywide
permitting
process
that
it
talks
about
a
centralized
process
there.
So
how
are
those
recommendations?
I,
don't
think
they're
captured
in
the
recommendations
we're
being
asked
to
vote
on
here
today?
Are
they.
C
D
So
can
I
ask
whether
staff
would
support
the
first
recommendation
there
to
develop
a
citywide
centralized
permitting
process
to
help
identify
those
DIY
spaces,
make
it
facilitate
them
opening.
We
would
not
be
supportive
of
us
adding
that
recommendation
to
the
overall
recommendations.
Now
a
recommendation.
D
D
A
A
Structure.
Transportation
as
it
relates
to
public
transit,
is
a
key
piece,
I
believe
and
I'm
just
wondering,
because
I
don't
really
think
we
fully
flushed
that
out
I'm
just
wondering.
Where
is
that
in
this
process,
because
I
think
if
the
TTC,
for
example,
is
not
a
part
of
this
process,
we're
gonna
have
some
huge
challenges
in
terms
of
moving
people
when
they
want
to
move
the
system
closed
down
the
center
after
2
p.m.
yes,
I
know
their
bus
services
and
so
on.
That
runs
in
varying
parts.
But
it's
not
citywide
and
I'm
just
wondering.
C
So
we
need
to
do
exactly
what
you
just
described,
deputy
mayor,
that
need
to
work
with
TDC.
Take
a
look
at
the
locations
that
makes
sense
for
DIYs.
Sometimes
the
diys
are
our
pop
up
because
of
price
lack
of
conflict
with
users
during
areas
which
don't
have
TDC
surface
service.
So
that's
an
issue.
We
need
to
look
at
a
wider
basis.
Okay,.
A
I
know
that
in
some
areas
where
this
night
economy
has
developed,
there's
been
a
number
of
benefits
such
as
a
reduction
in
crime
in
varying
areas,
and
so
on.
Can
someone
speak
to
that?
And
and
what
are
we
doing
with
respect
with
the
police
in
terms
of
enhancing
measures
to
collaborate
with
businesses
and
so
on
in
terms
of
addressing
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
would
tend
to
have?
Otherwise,
where
firt
and
certain
areas
are
closed
down,
it's
darker?
A
I
Absolutely
so
you'll
see
that
recommendation
five
point:
a
talks
about
a
safer
venue
industry
guides,
so
that
obviously
refers
to
the
venues
themselves.
Certainly,
municipal
lighting
is
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
looked
at
in
terms
of
where
pop-ups
or
new
venues
or
new
zoning
is
allowing
for
nightlife.
A
Final
question
is
Toronto
Hydro?
What
role
will
they
play
again?
There
are
many
features
that
is
cities
like
Shanghai
in
many
other
cities,
when
you
go,
some
of
the
illumination
that
tends
to
occur
has
a
very
productive,
beneficial
impact,
I'm
just
wondering
if
Toronto
Hydro
has
been
incorporated
into
this
plan
as
well.
Additionally,
part
of
that
is
the
cost
of
utility
services,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
will
actually
navigate
that
whole
process.
D
J
A
K
You
mr.
chair
I've
got
three
motions
that
I
want
to
move,
that
I
hope
somebody
will
take
care
of
job.
For
me,
the
first
one-
and
these
are
all
based
on
my
questions.
The
first
one
is
around
the
city
councilor
and
having
the
city
councilor
appointed
as
a
nighttime
ambassador
I
understand
staffs
rash.
Now
they
looked
at
Paris,
but
there
are
a
number
of
cities,
including
which
you
mentioned
Amsterdam,
where
they've
appointed
a
citizen
member
I'll
go
back
to
the
with.
K
One
state
yep,
but
I
will
go
back
to
the
the
comments
made
by
the
last
deputy
around
trying
to
represent
a
broad
range
demographics
in
the
City
of
Toronto,
when
this
was
first
brought
forward
in
2016
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
all
the
work
that
they've
done.
If
I
had
a
pretty
small
motion,
I
was
already
interested
in
the
time
at
the
nighttime
economy,
how
much
money
it
brings
to
the
city.
K
It's
really
flourished
and
evolved
over
the
past
three
years,
but
I
really
think
having
a
citizen
member
through
an
appointment
process
will
work
by
these.
The
city
councillor
in
particular
just
in
the
last
year
as
our
awards
have
increased
in
doubled
in
size,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
be
doing.
I
know
there's
some
concerns
over
not
having
a
counselor
as
a
nighttime
ambassador.
K
So
I
would
like
to
propose
something
very
similar
to
what
they
do
in
Amsterdam.
Is
they
have
ten
licensed
establishments,
24
of
them
across
the
city
they
also
base?
The
licenses
are
given
on
what
other
services
the
buildings
offers,
such
as
an
emphasis,
multidisciplinary
venues
featuring
bars,
galleries
and
co-working
spaces
and
I
know.
There's
also
some
concerns
around
the
pop
up.
K
If
probably
you
never
would
have
came
to
fruition.
If
somebody
came
along
and
said
to
them,
you
need
a
license
to
run
a
business
in
your
garage
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
look
at
the
music
industry.
A
lot
like
that.
If
we're
gonna
have
pop
up
venues,
I
think
that'll
do
go
a
long
way
with
helping
dealing
with
our
unlicensed
establishments.
That
we
constantly
hear
complaints
about
across
the
city,
but
once
again,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
all
the
work
that
they
put
into
this
report.
K
K
E
K
I
think
that
you
know
if
you're
gonna
support
a
6:00
p.m.
to
6:00
a.m.
economy.
You
look
at
the
the
work
world
now
in
particular,
I'll
talk
about
Millennials,
who
are
often
just
just
going
out
at
noon
at
midnight
or
1:00
a.m.
and
there's
certainly
not
excited
about
packing
it
in
and
at
2:00
a.m.
and
I
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
unlicensed
liquor
establishments.
E
M
E
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
Carroll
councillor
Ainsley
may
have
a
problem
with
your
motion.
See
I'm
gonna,
ask
legal
to
comment
on
it
because
I'm
at
the
moment
going
to
rule
that
out
of
order
I'm,
also
well.
No,
no!
No
I
understand!
You
have
moved
this
yet,
but
I
just
going
to
do
the
falling
just
a
suggestion,
because
it's
actually
on
the
screen.
So
one
of
two
things
they
have
made
me
talk
with
legal
to
see
one
that
we
can
sort
of
fine-tune
the
wording
in
to
allow
for
this
to
be
acceptable
and
I.
A
Although
you
have
new,
so
maybe
what
we'll
do
is
I'll
take
care
of
it
for
you
so
as
to
now
introduce
it.
So
then
we
can
actually
comment
on
it.
I
know
you've
asked
some
questions
around
that
councillor
Carol.
Well,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
have
so
then
I'm
gonna
take
care
of
them
so
they're
there
of
all
of
all
for
Kenzie,
because
he's
not
a
member
of
the
committee,
so
I'd
like
to
have
legal.
Just
comment
on
a
councillor,
omg's
Ainsley's
motion
see
so.
A
C
A
O
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
I'd,
like
to
commend
staff
on
this
excellent
report.
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
volume
of
work
that
they
have
undertaken
and
that's
taken
a
lot
of
time.
A
lot
of
consultation,
active
listening
going
out
to
the
community
I
think
that
it
actually
in
many
ways
as
a
visionary
document,
sort
of
sets
the
stage
for
what
happens
next,
if
Toronto
is
to
develop
a
nighttime
economy,
we're
gonna
have
to
loosen
certain
rules
and
we're
gonna
have
to
sort
of
not
just
think
outside
the
box.
O
We're
gonna
have
to
start
smashing
the
box,
and
that
requires
partnerships
and
I,
see
very
clearly
that
you
have
actually
engaged
with
the
the
multitude
of
stakeholders,
including
community
groups.
That
will
want
to
know
how
does
this
affect
them?
As
a
downtown
councillor,
we
have
the
the
privilege
of
representing
mix
mix
use
neighbourhoods,
which
means
that
sometimes
there
are
conflicts
that
emerge
between
daytime
uses
and
nighttime
uses
in
various
different
types
of
activity.
O
What
I
really
like
and
appreciate
about
the
report
is
that
there
is
active
engagement
through
all
the
multitude
stakeholders
which
I
think
should
be
commended.
Can
sometimes
it's
not
a
winner-takes-all
it's
about
everyone
coming
together
and
maybe
enjoying
part
of
the
the
evening
activities
as
well:
I,
I,
think
of
cities
like
Barcelona,
I,
think
of
cities
like
Bogota,
where
they
have
actually
to
me
in
it,
and
especially
in
major
cities
in
Asia
they've,
taken
their
nighttime
economy
to
a
different
scale.
It's
about
not
just
the
shine,
the
shopping
and
dining.
O
It's
about
having
evening
marathons,
you
believe
it
or
not,
but
they
actually
do
run
those
events
of
fundraisers
and
and
run
and
runs
raising
monies
for
different
communities
in
the
evening
time
when
there's
vehicle
movement
in
the
roadway
at
this
minimum.
So
there's
opportunities
to
do
way
more
than
just
drink,
more
party,
more
and
I
think
that
that's
what
I'm
seeing
that's
coming
out
of
this
report,
which
I
think
is
is
what's
speaking
so
so
well
to
me
and
of
course
there
has
to
be
food.
O
You
don't
have
a
vibrant,
nighttime
economy
anywhere
in
the
world
unless
there's
amazing,
delicious
food
oftentimes
and
there
the
open
skies
oftentimes
in
the
evening
I
see
councilor
lie
smiling
because
you
know
that
I'm
heading
into
the
night
markets
of
Asia,
which
is
just
phenomenal
experiences.
People
travel
from
around
the
world
specifically
for
those
cultural
destinations
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
have
one
that
I
can
even
point
to
in
Toronto
that
it
actually
hits
that
mark.
O
And
if
that
means
that
there
is
industrial
spaces
that
are
not
well
used
in
the
evening
time,
then
let's
go
and
explore
those,
and
we
do
have
a
very
vibrant
art
and
cultural
culture
making
sector
in
the
city
that
is
cross-disciplinary,
but
I
do
think.
Sometimes
we
play
it
rather
safe,
which
means
that
we
close
the
doors
at
8:00
p.m.
O
and
we
don't
do
much
more
unless
it's
a
special
event
and
upon
a
pop-up,
even
in
our
mainstream
multi-million
our
institutions,
we
should
be
opening
those
doors
longer
hours,
but
we
also
need
to
if
we're
going
to
do
all
of
that.
We're
gonna
have
to
increase
the
social
service
infrastructure,
including
transportation,
including
additional
washroom
facilities,
including
all
of
that.
O
A
D
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
staff
from
a
range
of
departments
when
it
comes
to
nighttime
activity,
there
there's
no
shortage
of
staff,
members
and
departments
to
have
an
input
and
a
say
into
it.
We're
talking
about
this
report
because
I
think
there
is.
Hopefully
we
will
all
acknowledge
that
a
city
without
culture
isn't
really
a
city.
Any
of
us
want
to
live
it.
So
how
do
you
make
that
work
when
it
comes
to
nighttime
animation
and
in
particular
in
particular,
I
would
highlight
culture
and
live
music.
D
I
think
we
should
move
to
expedite
to
the
delivery
of
those
aspects
and
I
think
they
are
excellent
ideas,
so,
let's
let's
run
forward
and
hit
them
and
then
there's
lots
of
other
measures
that
have
been
identified
in
here
to
help,
but
fundamentally
I
think
just
as
they
were
zone
issues
and
permitting
issues
and
space
challenges.
Fundamentally,
there
is
an
affordability
issue
here
and
we
can't
lose
sight
of
that.
D
That
is
as
much
as
we
can
try
to
improve
things
and
tinker
around
the
edges
when
downtown
Toronto,
which
has
always
been
an
is
the
center
of
Arts
and
Culture
and
nightlife
was
thriving.
It's
because
it
was
largely
unhoused
areas,
the
old
king,
Spadina
and
King
Parliament
areas,
and
by
no
means
should
people
think
that
oh
people
moved
in
and
therefore
arts
and
culture
didn't
want
to
be
there
anymore.
It's
the
opposite.
D
That
I
think
we
really
need
to
wrap
our
heads
around
because
far
too
often,
the
only
way
culture
around
nightlife
is
made
affordable
is
through
increased
alcohol
sales.
That's
what
makes
it
affordable.
The
only
way
you
can
actually
run
a
good
show
is.
If
you
can
sell
a
lot
of
beer
well,
we
need
to
be
able
to
create
an
active
and
dynamic
nightlife
that
supports
a
model
that
sure
you
can
have
a
beer.
D
I'm
gonna
want
a
beer
when
I'm
at
the
show,
but
also
is
profitable
on
its
own,
and
so
just
as
we
figured
out
a
model
around
creative
hubs
with
the
specialized
tax
class,
we
need
to
think
about
those
economic
factors
around
live
music
and
culture.
That's
an
underlying
element,
and
so
with
that
I'm
very
pleased
to
support
the
the
to
support
the
reports
in
front
of
us,
I'm
keen
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
staff
to
expedite
some
of
those
reports
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
taking
my
marching
orders
from
mr.
Tanner
over
there.
E
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
counselor
crises
remarks
and
and
how
we
chicken
out
and
and
and
and
do
as
little
and
and
worry
worry
about
affordability.
Above
all
else,
I've
talked
about
this
before
in
this
committee.
One
of
my
favorite
things,
one
of
my
favorite
things
to
do
when
I
go
to
New
York
City
is
always
always
always
always
if
I'm
there
for
for
more
than
24
hours,
is
to
visit
the
Brooklyn
Academy
of
Music
BAM.
E
It
is
insane
that,
after
all,
these
years
of
having
a
Toronto,
Arts,
Council
and
Foundation
and
all
of
these
active
venues
in
the
private
sector,
we
don't
have
a
Bam
Minh.
You
listen
to
the
the
description
of
just
under
Community
Programs
BAM
is
the
home
of
adventurous
artists,
audiences
and
ideas.
To
that
end,
BAM
places
a
special
emphasis
on
its
commitment
to
the
community
from
discounted
tickets
and
transportation
for
special
needs
groups
to
opportunities
for
local
arts
organizations.
We
have
enough
of
those
and
businesses.
E
Pam
is
committed
to
strengthening
its
various
business
and
cultural
partnerships
in
the
bam
cultural,
district
and
Brooklyn.
Overall,
the
cultural
district
exists,
because
that
happened
and
I
can't
believe
that
we've
closed
as
many
venues
as
we
have
that
could
easily
have
been
the
home
of
Toronto's
version
of
this.
E
We,
we
are
not
realizing
this
opportunity
where
we
should
I
suppose
that's
what
a
Harbourfront
Centre
was
meant
to
be
in
the
beginning,
but
it
hasn't
been
realized
because,
quite
frankly,
it
came
too
soon
and
is
in
the
wrong
place.
Now
that
we're
ready-
and
we
have
really
all
of
the
groups
that
could
be
part
of
making
that
venue
this
it's
still
in
the
wrong
place.
It
needs
to
be
in
the
heart
of
things
and
acknowledging
the
nighttime
economy
and
beginning
to
foster.
E
All
of
the
components
would
lead
to
someone
in
the
private
sector
thinking
this
is
possible
with
a
little
bit
of
government
partnership
and
we're
not
really
I,
don't
know
that
we're
really
looking
at
it.
That
way,
even
yet
we're
just
looking
at
music
venues
say
we're
just
desperately
trying
to
stay
put.
Can
we
please
stay
put
in
the
core
central
business
district,
but
we
also
have
areas
where
they
have
nightlife,
but
it's
all
the
wrong
kind
and
they
need
our
help
to
broaden
it.
E
Just
saying
where
do
the
liquor
licenses
go
does
not
lead
to
two
night
life.
Health
bumping
it
out
to
some
of
the
things
that
councilor
Ainsley
just
described
in
the
Amsterdam
strategy,
is
where
you
get
to
the
point
where
nightlife
does
bring
safety
to
a
community?
That's
what
happens
when
you
do
this
type
of
strategy.
You
actually
get
a
safer
community
as
a
result
of
functioning
24
hours
a
day.
E
You
actually
start
to
build
in
people
who
hold
something
sacred
and
aren't
going
to
allow
it
to
devolve
into
just
a
place
for
crime
to
flourish,
and
so
we
really
need
to
be
bold
in
this
strategy
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
say
well,
we
can't
afford
it
anymore.
We
have
to
really
have
that
honest
conversation
with
businesses
to
say
we
better
all
be
in
this
together
and
some
of
these
venues
we
may
be
run
jointly
may
be.
The
pop
ups
need
both
of
us.
E
Maybe
there
is
a
foundation
that
comes
out
of
this
that
make
sure
that
this
sort
of
thing
happens.
I
think
I
think
that
the
strategy
that
we've
read
so
far
is
fine
as
long
as
we
see
it
in
its
boldest
possible
description
and
go
for
it.
So
to
that
end,
I
was
gonna,
move
a
motion
that
the
Ambassador
darn
well
better
be
downtown
because
we
got
it.
E
We
got
to
deal
with
neighborhood
issues,
but
I
think
we
really
have
to
talk
about
it
and
make
sure
that
make
sure
that
we
can
deal
with
those
deal
with
those
quickly.
Councillor
Ainsley
has
just
suggested
a
way
that
we
could
do
it,
which
is
to
add
an
additional
role.
Yeah
we're
gonna
have
a
night
time
ambassador,
but
to
have
the
they're
called
to
square
hosts
there,
because
they've
sort
of
divided
the
city
map
into
squares.
We
did
have
area
hosts.
E
That
would
actually
mirror
the
early
days
of
the
film
board
when
you
had
counselor
who
knew
the
studio
district,
so
they
helped
break
log
jams.
There
I
was
putting
that
group
because
a
lot
of
the
log
jams
were
with
using
school
spaces
and
and
I
dealt
with
that
log
jam
having
some
area
hosts
that
support
the
nighttime
ambassadors,
so
he's
got
additional
voices
when
he's
coming
to
Council,
to
resolve
some
issues
and
be
able
to
just
think
big.
F
F
I
think
is
from
2016
was
way
before
my
time
and
I
think
when
I
came
here,
I
thought
this
is
my
first
term
and
I
think
there's
a
very,
very
good
idea
because,
as
as
Toronto
is
becoming
an
international
City
and
I
came
from
a
place
that
have
and
I
visited
areas
that
have
a
lot
of
nightlife
cities
places
like
Hong,
Kong
and
places
like
Taiwan.
They
have
a
night
market
that
attracts
and
it
was
packed
with
people
like
sardines.
You
know,
I
mean
it
was
12:00
midnight
and
they
still
packed
with
people
and
I.
F
Think
I
am
very
excited
that
that
we're
gonna
be
a
Toronto
is
going
to
be
spearheading
this
night
economy
because,
as
I
read
the
report
on
page
six
of
the
report-
and
it
says
about
how
New
York
City's
night
economy
have
economic
output
of
19
billion
dollars
u.s.
and,
with
eight
point
eight
point:
six
million
people
and
with
the
Toronto
and
the
economic
output
of
about
six
point,
1
billion.
If
you
know
put
that
into
the
equation
and
I,
think
the
nightlife
really
will
had
enhanced
our
city's
international
reputation.
F
Like
the
report
says
here,
and
it
will
increase
tourism
because
it
will
become
an
attraction
and
it
will
become
become
an
a
destination
for
tourists
and
I.
Really
really
think.
That
is
a
very
good
idea
and
and
I
also
like
the
idea
of
recommendation
number
five
that
we
actually
need
to
look
into
some
areas
outside
of
the
downtown
core
in
some
of
those
big
night
market
that
I've
visited.
F
They
always
outside
of
the
downtown
core,
and
it's
very
important,
I
think
I'm
very
happy
here
sitting
on
the
Toronto
Zoo
board
that
we
are
finally
actually
which
approved
some
illumination
attraction.
That
is
happening
in
the
fall
of
this
year
and
it
will
it'll
be
a
good
start
and
also
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
the
public
transportation
is
the
key
I
agree
with
councillor
Thompson
on
that,
because
we
should
have
perhaps
work
better
with
TTC
may.
F
Maybe
they
can
detonate
some
special
buses
routes
to
go
to
the
Dyke
market
and
I
think
we
need
to
work
with
the
TTC
on
that
and
in
terms
of
financial
and
funding
model.
I,
don't
know
how
some
of
these
cities
is.
I
haven't
been
doing
all
this
research,
but
I
think
if
we
can
probably
do
it
in
terms
of
grants,
I
don't
know
whether
it
will
be
a
good
start,
because
we
don't
know
we're
just
kind
of
starting
up
something.
That
is,
we
need
to
think
and
how
we
should
do.
F
The
funding
and
I'm
sure
the
businesses
will
will
be
able
to
support
that
as
well
and
I,
like
your
council,
a
long
time
saying
that
we
need
to
add
food
to
it
because
we
need
to.
We
need
to
actually
showcase
our
cultural
vibrancy
of
the
Sirians,
very
important
that
that
we
do
that
and,
as
one
of
the
deputies
said
that
you
know,
we
want
it
to
be
very
diverse
and
inclusive
and
make
sure
that
we
reflect
the
the
culture
of
the
Toronto
and
just
one
last
thing
I
wanted
to.
F
You
know
that
they,
they
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
the
in
Council
and
then,
if
we
might
create
another
department,
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
many
staff
we
can
have
to
assign
to
that
person,
but
I
think
it
would
not
be
a
feasible,
so
I
would
not
be
supporting
councillor
into
these
motions.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank.
A
A
There's
no
doubt
that
Toronto
is
a
global
city.
What
we
need
to
do,
though,
is
that
we
have
to
start
acting
like
one,
not
just
to
say
that
we
are.
We
have
people
from
all
around
the
world
who
come
here.
We
have
people
come
for
business,
for
tourism,
for
education
and
so
on
and
I
think
there
is
a
economic
case
to
be
made
for
the
night
economy.
A
What
needs
to
happen?
It
has
to
be
coordinated.
It
has
to
be
really
focused,
purposeful
and
address
many
of
the
elements
or
cash
of
things
that
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
not
only
understand,
but
we
actually
put
a
mechanism
in
the
system
in
place
that
actually
allows
for
governance
processes
to
work,
and
so
on
this
report
and
I
to
lend
my
voice
in
acknowledging
and
thanking
staff
because
it's
been
a
while
coming
and
it
is
here.
I
don't
want
to
micromanage
this
particular
process.
A
I
want
to
have
staff
to
have
more
of
a
free
rein
and
in
terms
of
bringing
forward
to
us
ideas
and
elements
that
we
ought
to
consider
when
I
was
in
Amsterdam
and
having
spent
a
good
Sunday
afternoon
meeting
with
with
Marek
at
there
is
his
office.
We
I
learnt
about
the
challenges
that
they've
had
with
the
system,
and
it's
no
system
is
perfect,
where
I
get
that,
but
I
think
based
on
the
complexity
of
our
system.
A
Here
there
is
a
need
for
someone,
that's
internal,
to
guide
and
provide
the
guiding
hand
and/or
the
direction
to
help
this
process
to
really
get
off
the
ground
and
solidify
itself,
and
so
on
in
terms
of
going
forward.
There's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
it.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
has
to
be
done,
I
think
the
transit
piece.
While
it's
being
considered,
it
really
has
to
be
not
just
simply
considered.
A
We
have
to
fund
it
because
there's
going
to
be
funding
requirements
for
the
TTC
to
really
address
the
need,
we're
trying
to
get
more
people
to
take
transit
during
the
day
time.
We
want
to
do
that
in
the
night
time
as
well,
and
so
we
want
to
address
this
there's
no
doubt
that
I
mean
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
downtown
core,
but,
like
many
other
things
that
we're
actually
trying
to
do
in
the
city,
we
want
to
expand
the
reach.
So
it's
not
just
concentrated
in
sort
of
they.
You
know
the
the
hub
area.
A
It's
it's
more
spoke
process
where
it
expends
to
scarborough
north
york
and
beyond,
and
so
on,
so
that
everyone
can
share
in
the
opportunity
and
not
everyone
will
have
to
make
their
way
downtown
because
of
the
night
economy,
and
so
on
and
I
realized
that
doing
the
initial
discussions
that
we've
had
on
this
issue.
Many
residents
came
forward
and
explained
that
their
concern
about
potential
noise
and
impact
to
their
community
disruption
of
sleep
and
a
variety
of
other
things
and
so
on,
and
so
many
of
those
things
have
been
considered.
A
However,
like
everything
else,
we
have
to
continue
to,
you
know,
focus
on
listening
and
responding
and
measuring
things
as
we
go
along.
So
it's
not
to
suggest
that
this
report
is
the
final
elements
of
the
introduction
of
the
night
economy.
We
will
continue
to
work
and
refine
this
processes
as
the
case
in
many
other
cities
around
the
world.
A
So,
as
I
said,
I'm
not
going
to
be
supporting
the
motions
that
are
in
front
of
us
and
those
are
all
the
motions
that
we
have
and
we
will
then
take
those
two
I
vote,
but
I
will
move
them
for
councillor.
Nz
I
know
I
have
indicated
I'm
moving
it
all
right.
So,
madam
clerk,
do
you
want
to
start
with
number
one
or
a
I
guess
all
right
so
motion
a
and
we'll
ask
a
recorded
vote
on
these
medal
clerk.
C
C
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
Clerk.
We
are
sorry.
So,
yes
item,
there's
no
amendment
to
the
admin.
So
on
the
item,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
that's
carried.
Thank
you.
I'm
Adam,
Clark,
we're
now
moving
to
item
EC,
6.13
I
have
indicated
earlier
that
I
will
not
be
here
after
lunch.
We've
got
about
yes,
16
minutes
to
break
we're
going
to
try
to
get
as
much
in
of
which
is
item
613,
toronto's
action
plan
on
confronting
anti
black
racism.
It's
as
an
update.
A
We
have
speakers,
but
just
before
we
get
to
that
item
members
ec2000
EC
6.23,
which
was
the
supporting
three
significant
events
in
Toronto
29
team
members
have
read
that
councillor
Ford
had
questions
and
those
questions
have
been
answered
and
causa
Ford
is
in
the
affirmative
in
terms
of
supporting,
what's
in
front
of
us
I
ask
of
you.
Is
there
any
further
questions
or
concerns
of
them
coughs?
Carol.
Did
you
have
a
quick
as
that?
A
quick
as
it
it's.
E
A
E
C
A
C
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
As
I
said,
I
will
not
be
back
after
lunch,
but
Vice
Chair
Grimes
will
be
able
to
address
this
issue.
I
do
have
a
number
of
speakers,
so
I'd
like
to
call
this
first,
three
speakers,
name
I'm,
al
MELAS
I
believe
melts
a
man
I'm
sorry,
Emmanuel
Emmanuel
melts
Network
for
the
advancement
of
black
communities
and
hold
on
hold
on
I'm,
ed
Muhammad,
and
also
we
have
Wesley
Chris
Lowe,
who
are
the
first
three
and
sir.
Are
you
about
fantastic?
Please
come
forward,
sir,
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak
all
right.
P
Thank
you
chairman
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
Emanuel
MELAS
and
the
director
for
the
network
for
the
advancement
of
black
communities,
which
is
an
organization
created
at
the
Faculty
of
Education
New,
York
University,
and
the
Jean
Augustine
chair
in
education,
community
and
diaspora.
We
work
with
about
70
organizations
in
Ontario
from
Windsor.
All
the
way
to
Ottawa
in
between
our
mandate
is
to
provide
a
convenient
knowledge,
mobilization,
service
coordination
and
capacity-building
and
systems
change,
support
to
these
organizations
that
are
working
with
black
children,
youth
and
families.
P
Like
the
confronting
anti
black
racism
unit.
Here
at
the
city,
we
deploy
our
anti
black
racism
lens
and
a
cultural
identity
lens.
The
work
that
we
do
I
am
also
a
member
of
the
partnership
and
accountability
circle.
That's
part
of
the
implementation
of
the
plan.
My
colleagues
that
are
here
my
peers
in
the
partnership
are
accountable.
Each
circle.
They
will
speak
to
the
independent
report.
That
is
part
of
your
package.
P
Implementation
of
this
five-year
plan
to
create
a
pathway
for
implementation
of
the
recommendations
that
are
within
the
plan,
I
also
included,
acknowledge
the
leadership
of
City
Council
and
the
mayor
and
the
senior
leadership
within
Social
Development
in
actually
facilitating
and
support
the
work
of
the
confronted
anti
black
racism
unit.
I
feel,
mr.
chair,
that
we
are
in
an
incredible
moment
here
in
the
city,
in
the
context
of
really
creating
a
partnership
between
black
communities
and
the
city
itself,
in
addressing
very
long-standing
systemic
issues
that
our
communities
have
been
facing
for
for
the
longest
I.
P
Think
the
22
recommendations
and
80
actions
in
the
plan
create
a
pathway
for
really
addressing
the
systemic
challenge
that
we
have
been
facing
for
the
longest
I.
Think
the
decision
to
create
the
anti
black
racism
unit
within
the
city
was
smart
destroyed
because
what
it
does
for
the
city
and
the
communities
it
creates
an
integral
component
within
the
city
itself
that
becomes
as
evident
in
this
year
a
catalyst,
an
enabler,
a
connector.
P
If
you
want,
within
this
huge
ecosystem
that
we
have
of
different
players
within
the
city,
what
there's
different
levels
of
government,
community
organization,
community
leaders,
the
city
structures
itself,
business,
etc
in
terms
of
working
together
to
create
the
conditions
for
implementing
the
recommendations
and
what
I
would
like
to
really
encourage?
The
city
is
to
pay
attention
to
the
nature
of
this
transformation
that
this
is
not.
You
know
a
project.
This
is
not
an
initiative.
P
This
is
not
a
program,
we're
entering
a
systemic
transformation
relationship
between
black
communities
and
the
city
and
I
think
the
22
recommendations
and
80
actions
are
very,
very
important
in
creating
those
conditions
for
change,
so
we
need
system
level
leadership
sustained,
engaged
over
the
course
of
these
five
years
and
beyond.
To
make
sure
that
some
of
the
recommendations,
the
programs
and
services
are
important.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
to
lay
the
foundation
for
systemic
transformation
and
systemic
front
transformation.
K
A
P
E
P
A
M
A
M
M
A
simple
example
is
accessing
City
Hall,
coming
in
as
a
black
person
in
the
City
Hall
and
going
through
security
and
the
way
in
which
that,
as
a
black
person,
is
supporting
your
black
youth,
a
black
other
a
lot
of
time,
we
over-policed
over
surveilled.
So
the
experiences
of
accessing
the
City
Hall
in
itself.
It's
a
form
of
barrier,
its
somatic
barriers
that
we
go
through
on
a
daily
basis.
So
what
does
creating
cultural
change?
M
The
city
level
looks
like
whether
you
are
walking
into
the
building,
whether
you
happen
to
be
a
staff,
whether
you
happen
to
be
a
volunteer
or
a
pack
member
in
our
case,
and
so
we
did
a
report
and
I'm
hoping
that
you
guys
have
that
report
and
the
feedback
that
and
the
recommendation
that
we
made.
Another
area
of
support
that
we
wanted
to
say,
is
to
look
at
is
partnership
with
providing
training
and
for
three
staff
as
well
as
the
police.
M
Finally,
the
police
agreed
to
have
a
committee
that
week
that
actually
directly
and
solely
address
anti
black
racism
they've
been
a
bit
of
a
resistant
in
that
part,
but
I'm
happy
to
see
that
we
will
have
our
upcoming
meeting
with
the
committee
within
the
Toronto
Police
Services
in
July,
so
yeah
I
think
that
is
pretty
much.
What
I
wanted
to
touch
on.
Thank.
A
M
Q
Q
It's
been
an
honor
working
with
City
Conference
in
Antibes
and
black
unit
at
the
city,
but
I
would
like
to
stress
that
in
doing
this
work
we
need
more
than
an
action
plan.
We
need
more
than
a
plan.
We
need
a
solid
plan.
We
need
a
plan
in
which
I
think
all
the
issues
that
we
have
costing
the
community
over
the
past
years,
starting
from
issues
found
with
and
in
particular
the
roots
of
violence
report,
which
really
stresses
the
importance
of
four
levels
of
government
working
together.
Where
was
reports
for
do
fall
short?
Q
Is
they
don't
speak
specifically
about
creating
a
research
data
bank
in
which
we
can
create
evidence-based
data
that
is
specific
to
the
black
community?
Black
communities
are
only
communities
in
which
we
often
find
the
consultants
to
those
communities
are
not
black.
You
will
not
do
such
work
with
indigenous
communities.
Q
If
you
have
going
to
work
with
indigenous
issues,
you
wouldn't
you
would
never
make
that
mistake,
and
one
of
the
things
we
find
with
the
black
community
is
that
often
we
are
given
this
work
to
do
and
I
can
and
supervised
by
folks
who
are
not
from
with
the
community
for
the
most
part
so
to
that
degree.
In
that
extent,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
hire
and
put
somebody
like
Anna
near
an
a-team,
but
I
would
like
to
add
to
that.
Q
But
one
of
the
things
we
would
like
to
see
is
the
creation
of
research
money
for
research
for
the
larger
community,
in
which
we
can
actually
do
work
on
anti
black
racism
in
the
community
and
create
evidence
based
evidence
base
is
critically
asked
upon
every
time
we
do
work
in
the
community.
What's
your
evidence?
Where
is
your
data?
How
much
do
you
have?
Q
The
issue
of
coming
into
the
city
that
was
spoken
about
by
my
colleague
earlier
is
one
I
think
that
we
cannot
address
simply
with
a
given
are
surpassed
as
members
of
the
of
the
partnership
accountability
circle
for
coming
in
here,
rather
than
always
having
ourselves
subjected
to
that
survey,
which
psychologically
and
psychosocial
is,
can
be
quite
depressing.
Committing
to
end
this
book
that
we
are
trying
to
fight.
Q
Overall,
I
think
the
recommendations
within
overall
I
think
the
recommendations
within
the
report
establish
a
solid
starting
point
in
which
we
can
begin
to
establish
cross-sector
parsec
to
partners
for
black
youth
insurance
within
common
goals
and
expand
on
best
practices
already
in
India
local
community.
The
work
that
that
cab
has
done
around
working
with
black
youth
who
have
criminal
records.
Q
We
need
to
take
that
one
step
further
and
create
pilot
projects
with
with
private
agencies
and
private
parties
and
governments,
hiring
black
youth
with
criminal
records
and
not
just
simply
true
project
funding
project
funding
is
very
short
to
him.
It
does
not
go
very
far.
Selecting
disagree.
This
aggregated
data
is
essential
for
the
kind
of
work
we
are
doing
here
and
not
just
on
race,
but
on
sexual
orientation
and
on
gender
and
sexuality.
Q
C
O
Q
We
have
had
a
number
of
examples
in
the
US
where
private
sector
would
partner
with
community
agencies,
and
we
would
they
would
deliberately
hire
you
to
come.
You
know
from
prison
or
those
in
the
community
of
criminal
records,
mentor
them
throughout
that
process,
so
that
they
can
develop
their
skills
while
they
are
developing
their
skills
and
they
are
also
passing
the
time
to
be
pardoned.
That
will
happen
in
the
process.
Meaningful
employment.
Often
many
black
youth
who
are
incarcerated
have
been
denied
an
education.
Q
We
can
create
meaningful
education
for
them
at
the
same
time,
while
they
are
achieving
some
work
experience,
and
so
we
can,
we
can
address
the
holistic
approach
of
mental
health,
education,
employment,
affordable
house
and
all
those
things
can
be
a
part
of
a
large
large-scale
project
in
which
we
can
try
out
in
the
community.
We
have
not
done
it
yet,
but
we
have
so
far
within
the
kaabah
unit
address
the
question
and
I
think
passed
a
resolution
to
do
so
now.
O
Because
the
the
recommendation
that's
contained
in
the
report
specifically
talks
about
the
removal
of
the
barriers
and
to
ensure
that
we
can,
we
can
work
with
different
communities,
including
organizations
that
hire
youth
to
ensure
that
we
can
just
sort
of
remove
barriers,
but
what
you're
seeing
is
actually
go
out?
There
demonstrate
that
it
can
work,
measure
the
outcome
outcome
and
and
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
just
become
almost
like
just
a
rubber
stamp
project,
yeah
yeah.
So
it's
a
project,
so
you
want
to
be
able
to
demonstrate
the
is
this
structural
change
that
can
happen.
O
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
clarify,
and
so
with
respect
to
the
roots
of
violence
and
I
know.
This
report
has
been
talked
about
endlessly
at
City
Hall.
We
have
talked
about
you
know
how
do
we
address
an
investment
in
the
youth
equity
strategy
and
specifically
into
making
sure
that
young
black
people
see
themselves
reflected
in
civil
society
that
they're
going
to
be
treated
fairly
when
they
walk
through
these
specific
doors
which
was
spoken
about
before?
Q
It's
still
quick
to
measure
you
only
been
around
a
year
and
I.
Think
today
is
a
good
sign
that
we
are
engaging
and,
and
part
of
that
is
about
now
working
with
us
and
listening.
One
of
the
things
I
would
really
like
to
see
happens
in.
That
is
some
some
funding
for
evidence-based
research.
Not
just
simply
funding
community
agencies
and
telling
them
do
a
dance
project.
Here's
Caribana
go
dance.
No
I
would
like
them
to
have
substantive
work
with
academics
with
activists
who
can
supervise
those
projects,
train
them
how
to
collect
data.
Q
O
O
Q
E
We've
tried
and
counseled
wrong
time
is
getting,
and
how
do
we
go
about
doing
the
third
party
thing
I,
wonder
if
you
can
expand
a
little
what
it
means
to
have
the
data
the
data
they're
trying
to
collect
the
questions
being
asked
are
being
asked
by
the
very
body
that
is
doing
the
Oh
pursue
over
supervising
over
policing.
So
the
response
is
not
going
to
be
as
open
as
you
want.
It
can
never
be
unless
we
do.
This
third
party
am
I,
am
I
on
the
right
track.
I.
Q
Think
part
of
the
issue
is
over
being
over
studied
by
the
wrong
folks,
yeah
and
if
we
are
studied
now
by
black
folks,
it
might
be
different,
so
we
needed
heart,
stop
having
the
black
mist
been
studied
by
any
and
everybody
but
black
folks.
Yes,
we
don't
do
this
to
indigenous
communities
and
I'm,
not
using
them,
as
as
an
example
to
say,
I,
dis,
anti
indigenous,
but
I
want
to
use
it
as
an
example
to
show
you
you
spend
time
you
take
the
time
to
work
with
indigenous
communities.
Q
You
spend
time
you
take
the
time
to
look
at
white
where
communities
you
don't
do
the
same
for
black
communities
and
I
think
we
need
now
to
student,
evaluate
our
evaluate
and
assess
what
we
have
been
doing,
what
has
not
been
working
and
how
we
move
to
that
stage
of
that
data
collection.
That
is
not
about
Ontario
Human
Rights
collecting
data,
but
it's
about
a
black
community
collecting
data
right.
E
A
You
very
much
cows
Carol.
Are
there
any
more
questions?
Okay,
seam
down
just
before
we
recess
can
I
just
say,
because
I
won't
be
here
after
and
I'm,
unfortunately,
I
have
to
travel,
and
so
we'll
be
here,
but
I
just
want
to
say
just
for
me
as
a
black
person
in
this
city.
How
proud
I
am
to
see
all
of
you
here
to
speak
to
this
really
really
really
really.
A
Really
important
important
issue
and
miss
grant
for
the
team
and
the
work
that
has
been
assemble
and
finally,
for
the
mayor,
who
has
been
very
focused
in
addressing
this
very
important
issue.
So
the
old
Bob
Marley's
saying
comes
to
mind.
He
who
feels
that
the
most
knows
it
the
best.
He
speaks
to
what
you're
saying
professor
so
I
know
that
councillor
Grimes
and
vice
chair
will
chair
the
meeting
after
the
recess,
so
we
will
now
recess
until
1:30.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.