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Etobicoke York Community Council - June 6, 2018 - Part 3 of 3
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A
C
B
Hello,
everyone
welcome
good
evening
I
now
have
quorum.
Thank
you
counter
to
channel
this
session
of
total.
Your
Creed
council
is
being
held
tonight
to
consider
the
following
items:
ey
31.1
final
report,
70
Dixville,
drive,
zoning
bylaw
amendment
application
and
item
31.8
request
for
direction.
Report.
240
Markland
drive
zoning
bylaw
limit
allocation.
Just
before
we
start
this
meeting,
there's
a
two
different
meanings.
The
catchment
area
is
very
large,
for
both
of
these
I
think
was
2,000
people.
So
this
meeting
starts
for
31.1
now
and
then
we
cannot
start
31.8
until
7:45.
B
We
cannot
start
it
earlier,
so
we're
hoping
it'll
all
kind
of
flow,
but
there
might
be
a
little
break
with
the
local
council
sent
him
to
Tim
works
for
coffee
for
everybody.
So,
okay,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
speaker's
list
here.
Number
speakers:
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak.
You
don't
get
the
question
us
we
get
to
question
you
and
we'll
keep
you
to
your
time
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
little
reminder,
begin
close
to
five
minutes
and
we'll
start
the
meeting.
B
D
You
good
evening,
members
of
council
I
have
a
PowerPoint
Brad,
please
thank
you.
So
my
name
is
Dan.
A
crucial
SC
and
I
sit
as
president
of
condominium
corporation
number,
202
and
I'm,
also
an
owner
that
lives
in
714,
the
West
Mall,
which
is
that
part
of
that
Corporation,
and
so
in
order
for
us
to
express
our
concerns
to
you.
I
thought
I
would
bring
our
community
to
you
at
Council
because
everybody
is
so
busy.
So
if
you
can
bear
with
me,
there's
a
little
slideshow.
D
So
this
is
what
you're
looking
at
is
714
716,
the
West
Mall,
which
is
at
the
very
top
of
them
all.
We
are
434
units
we
are
93,
plus
percent
occupied,
so
very
little
tenancy.
We
have
a
separate
garage
entry,
separate
garage
exit
and
our
visitor
parking
and
service
service
driveways
are
on
either
side
of
the
building
so
that
they
serve
the
buildings
from
the
back.
My
next
slide
is
for
763
ycc
281
625
627,
the
West
Mall.
They
have
four
hundred
and
seventeen
suites
and
they
are
approximately
85%
plus
owner
occupied.
D
Their
issue
is
that
they
have
two
driveways.
This
is
only
the
first
of
one,
so
their
access
again
for
services
for
visitors,
etc,
is
just
south
of
us.
My
next
slide
will
show
you
the
view
going
down
the
West
Mall.
So
this
driveway
on
the
left
is
the
driveway,
the
second
driveway
from
625
627
T.
You
can
see
the
proximity
to
the
island
and
to
the
stop
sign
at
wellsworth
and
the
West
mall.
D
So
there
are
cars
coming
from
every
which
direction
they've
actually
had
to
change
the
pedestrian
walkway
across
the
stop
sign
because
they
couldn't
have
pedestrians
walking
from
the
bus.
Stop
they
kind
of
do
an
L.
They
walk
across
to
the
north
side
of
wellsworth
and
they
cross
over
if
they're
going
to
either
one
of
the
two
condominium
buildings.
And
so
then
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
one
of
the
issues
that
we
had
is
the
traffic
report.
D
That
was
was
done
on
February,
11
2016
and
we
were
told
it
was
a
typical
day
typical
activity
in
the
neighborhood.
It
was
minus
twenty.
Five,
anybody
who
wanted
to
be
at
home
probably
stayed
at
home,
so
the
traffic
study
was
not,
in
our
view,
very
well
implemented.
So
the
next
slide
will
show
you
our
traffic
study,
the
key
fob
system.
It
has
a
garage
key
fob
and
a
car
fob
and
card
fob
and
all
it
does
is
it
tracks
the
cars
in
and
out
of
the
garage
to
be
perfectly
fair
to
everybody.
D
We
picked
a
not-so-nice
month
of
the
year
we
picked
November,
we
did
a
full
week
from
Sunday
to
Saturday
and
you
can
see
we
were
very
fair
again
with
the
times
sunday
was
6:30
a.m.
to
10:00,
as
of
the
other
days
of
the
week
and
3:00
to
8:00
p.m.
and
you
can
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
back
and
forth,
and
this
doesn't
include
the
two
driveways
from
ycc
281
at
625
627,
the
West
Mall.
So
the
next
slide
again,
it's
typical
there's
the
bus
you
get
three
or
four
cars
back
up.
D
This
is
on
wellsworth,
and
then,
with
that
you
have,
you
know
you
have
the
issue
of
the
backup
going
back
into
the
neighbor's
neighborhood.
We
also
have
an
issue
of
congestion,
air
pollution,
and
then
we
have
the
number
of
residents
and
our
buildings
combined
is
probably
close
to
2,500
and
the
issue.
At
that
point,
is
you
have
people
with
scooters?
You
have
people
with
other
mobility,
aids,
young
children's
skateboards
and
cyclists
and
so
forth.
So
then
the
next
slide
again
just
typical
traffic
in
the
neighborhood
off-peak.
D
The
next
slide
is
this
is
what
happens
down
the
West,
Mullan
and
I.
Will
thank
the
council
for
the
city
for
allowing
us
an
extra
three
seconds
on
the
green
light,
but
it's
not
doing
anything
to
move
the
traffic
along
at
our
issue.
Is
that
with
more
cars
in
the
neighborhood,
this
is
just
going
to
impound
the
problem,
all
the
way
back,
not
only
up
the
West
Mall,
but
into
the
neighborhood
behind
my
next
one
is
so.
This
is
one
of
our
personal
issues.
D
D
Okay,
so
basically,
the
bottom
line
is
that
we
need
a
proper
traffic
study
and
and
we
need
to
somehow
resolve
the
possibility
of
serious
possibility
of
encroachment
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
All
I
ask
is
that
you
take
our
comments
into
consideration
because
it's
a
very
important
decision.
Thank
you.
B
E
You
for
speaking
to
us
tonight,
I'm
going
to
do
a
sneaky,
councilors
trick
and
and
asked
you
the
question:
is
there
anything
else
that
you'd
like
to
add,
because
your
time
ran
out
and
I
know
that
you've
worked
very
hard
on
behalf
of
the
condominium
corporation
next
door?
And
five
minutes
is
not
a
lot
of
time
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
that
we
had
had
just.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
One
of
the
other
two
issues
is
water,
water
pressure
and
and
hydro,
and
with
the
city's
help
last
year,
we
we
addressed
part
of
the
water
pressure
issue,
but
we
still
have
to
constantly.
We
take
reduce
twice
a
day
every
day,
because
the
water
pressure
still
does
fluctuate,
and
the
other
issue
is
that,
because
the
infrastructure
is
sold
with
the
hydro,
we're
concerned
that
adding
more
units
and
more
people
within
that
corner,
it's
going
to
just
draw
that
much
more
on
on
the
water
services.
Thank.
C
B
D
D
D
Think
so
I
believe
so
I
and
just
sort
of
on
a
personal
note.
I
walked
the
neighborhood
like
I
I'm
out
there
twice
at
least
twice
a
day,
walking
and
and
I
seen
the
increase
in
the
traffic,
and
my
concern
is
that
that
that
corner
will
cause
issues
not
only
for
us
on
the
West
Mall,
but
for
the
neighborhood
in
general
and
and
and
that's
our
position
aside.
D
F
Council,
my
name
is
Janice
Robinson
and
planning
consultant
representing
the
owners
of
76
field.
The
owners
are
selling
Ziegfeld
West
Mall
Inc.
This
is
a
proposal
to
add
just
88
units
to
a
property,
that's
currently
occupied
by
a
12
story,
building
that
contains
141
units.
So
it's
already
much
smaller
than
what's
around
it.
This
building
the
current
building
was
built
by
the
existing
owners
in
the
70s
there'll
be
two.
The
buildings
will
be
a
58
unit,
six
storey
mid-rise,
building
situated
on
the
west
mall
and
30
walk-up
three-story
apartment
buildings.
F
All
of
the
units
being
built
are
either
three
bedrooms:
three
bedrooms,
plus
den
or
two
bedrooms,
two
bedrooms,
plus
den,
so
there's
many
units.
All
of
them
are
being
built
sized
for
families.
After
adding
88
units,
the
site
coverage
will
still
only
be
20%
the
floor
space
index
1.39
times
a
lot
area,
total
of
239
units
much
less
than
the
400
units
plus
sites
around
you
around
it.
To
accommodate
the
development.
The
surface
parking
area
will
be
reconfigured,
there'll,
be
an
expansion
of
the
underground
parking
garage.
F
Those
results
in
264
parking
spaces
of
which
30
will
be
for
visitors.
The
entrance
to
the
West
Mall
will
be
opened
up,
so
there's
going
to
be
two
entrances
that
the
development
can
be
used,
but
the
parking
garage
is
overrun,
close
to
Dix
field,
that's
going
to
be
reconfigured
as
well.
The
traffic
and
parking
study
was
submitted
for
the
development
city
staff
have
reviewed
engineering
staff
were
asked
to
reconsider
whether
additional
studies
should
be
done
because
it
was
the
counts
were
done
on
a
cold
day
and
they
agreed
that
no
further
study
was
required.
F
The
traffic
from
this
development
looking
at
using
the
trip
generation
amounts,
would
be
45
cars
per
hour
peak
in
the
a.m.
and
that's
in
an
hour
and
going
distributed
amongst
two
driveways
and
going
in
all
directions
and
then
55
in
the
p.m..
So
it's
not.
These
numbers
are
not
the
existing
traffic
conditions
are
the
existing
traffic
conditions
and
that's
the
traffic
department
who's
reviewed.
Our
study
has
concluded
that
the
impact
is
not
significant.
F
There's
been
engineering
studies
prepared,
including
a
stormwater
management
plan,
hydrogeological
report
on
groundwater.
Those
consultants
are
here
tonight.
If
there
are
any
questions,
there's
a
considerable
number
of
improvements
being
proposed.
As
a
result
of
this
development,
in
conjunction
with
it,
there's
been
it's
going
to
be
renovations
to
the
lobby,
a
new
lounge
indoor
amenity
room
to
be
added
new
amenity
room,
furnishings,
new
pool
furnishings,
new
outdoor
amenity
areas,
landscaping
throughout
the
site,
all
of
the
facilities
will
be
on
the
site,
will
be
shared
by
all
of
this.
The
new
tenants
any
existing
tenants.
F
All
of
these
improvements
will
be
in
a
section
37
agreement,
we've
been
working
with
staff
for
three
years
to
bring
project
to
the
point.
The
meetings
with
the
community
with
tenants
we
have
the
York
kondal
202
net
store.
The
owners
are
committed
to
providing
additional
new
rental
housing
on
a
site.
That's
currently
under
utilized.
This
is
to
meet
the
demand
for
units
for
families
that
they
know
exist
because
they
have
people
walking
into
their
leasing
office.
All
the
time
wanting
to
lease
units.
E
G
E
Brings
me
to
my
next
question:
parking
is
extremely
sensitive
in
this
area,
as
it
is
in
many
parts
of
the
Ward
and
a
lot
of
residents
are
concerned
about,
what's
going
to
happen
during
construction,
but
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
long
haul,
do
you
firmly
believe
that
you
have
enough
parking
to
accommodate
your
existing
tenants
and
the
new
ones
entirely
on
site,
given
that
this
is
now
a
rental
building?
The
risk
goes
to
you
well.
F
Yes,
the
parking
study
was
done
and,
if
proposed
there's
a
total
of
264
spaces,
it
was
based
on
existing
utilization.
Okay,
we
have
the
rent
rolls
and
the
parking
some
people
have
two
cars,
but
a
lot
of
people
don't
even
own
a
car,
so
location,
it's
well
served
by
transit.
So
the
answer
is,
is
going
to
be
sufficient
parking
for
tenants
and
that's
just
projecting
the
current
rates
on
the
future
units.
I.
E
Wondered
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
Sun
and
shadow
studies,
I
monitored
the
correspondence,
and
we
may
not
hear
a
lot
of
speakers
about
it
tonight.
But
some
of
the
residents
in
particular
to
the
north
in
the
in
the
in
the
homes,
are
worried
about
shadow
impact.
Can
you
describe
what
those
impacts
are?
According
to
the
engineering
studies
that
you've
submitted
well.
F
The
shadow
drawings
done
by
the
architect
show
that
there
is
no
shadow
impact
on
those
units
to
the
north.
The
building's
one
two
and
three
are
nine
point:
seven
meters
away
from
the
north
boundary,
the
those
are,
the
lots
that
are
on
board
EDA
Crescent.
So
it's
a
nine
point.
Seven
meter
setback,
they
meet
the
45
degree
angle,
er
plane.
Those
buildings
are
only
10
meters
high,
that's
like
a
height
of
a
detached
dwelling
to
the
top
of
the
ridge.
F
E
Another
concern
that
has
come
up
repeatedly
in
the
neighborhood,
because
many
of
us
were
stung
very
badly
in
the
the
floods
is
the
effect
on
storm
water
and
I.
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
topic
throughout
this
particular
project.
Can
you
tell
us
some
of
the
features
that
you
are
prepared
to
implement
to
ensure
that
storm
waters
dealt
with
well.
F
There's
a
big
storage
tank:
that's
going
to
be
constructed
under
the
ground
up
near
the
corner,
underneath
the
big
lawn
area
and
that
will
control
the
release
of
storm
water.
It
will
collect
the
storm
water
and
release
it
at
proper
rates.
Now,
if
you
want
more
information
on
that,
I
would
call
up
the
engineer
if
you
want
more,
it's
okay.
F
B
H
Out
of
curiosity,
what
was
the
I
noticed?
The
parking
ratio
for
visitors
is
0.1
3
per
additional
unit,
and
that's
typically
on
the
low
side.
I'm
just
wondering
to
what
extent
the
parking
that
you
provided
on
the
site
prior
to
intensification
was
the
visitor
parking
at
point
two
per
parking
space,
or
are
you
just
replicating
the
way
it
was
before
there.
F
B
J
There
are
some
key
pieces
that
keep
filtering
and
we
hear
chuckles
in
the
back
of
the
group,
and
the
key
is
that
there
is
a
traffic
issue,
regardless
of
the
studies
they're,
not
as
accurate
as
what
you
see
on
a
daily
basis
from
walkers
from
cars,
and
it's
not
that
the
70
dicks
field
proposal
will
cause
the
problem
it
will
just.
They
also
will
feel
the
impact
of
having
an
increased
amount
on
the
property.
J
The
second
thing
that's
concerned
is
the
utilities
both
on
the
stormwater
side,
but
also
the
hydro
in
this
area,
especially
over
the
last
several
months.
You
can
find
a
daily
outage
on
power
and
the
utilities
so
we're
looking
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
Council
with
the
city
to
appropriate
that
all
of
those
pieces
and
working
with
seventy
Dix
field
on
that
proposal.
J
Nowadays
in
the
real
estate
market,
the
rentals
are
required
because,
if
you
can't
get
in
as
a
first-time
buyer
and
you'll
also
find
that
children
and
I
don't
mean
young
children,
I
mean
adult
children
with
cars
with
full-time
jobs,
actually
live
at
home.
So
there
is
a
higher
propensity
for
having
more
than
a
one
to
one
ratio
for
a
car
which
could
then
lead
to
an
impact
on
what
do
they
do
when
they
rented
it,
and
they
have
more
than
one
car,
so
I'm,
just
bringing
that
to
the
table
as
part
of
the
homeowners
association.
J
C
J
I,
don't
object
to
it
for
a
number
of
reasons,
one
because
I
think
we're
probably
past
that
point.
Given
the
amount
of
work
that's
been
in
there
and
because
I
believe
that
there
is
a
need
in
the
community
to
leverage
that
and
from
a
conversation
that
we
had
just
as
early
as
last
week
with
H
and
our
development
I
found
it
very
strong
that
they
are
a
community
partner
and
therefore
will
also
have
the
same
concern
once
there
about
the
traffic.
So.
J
Think
traffic
studies
at
different
areas
need
to
occur,
I
think
things
such
as
changes
in
medians
changes
in
options
of
lighting
in
different
areas.
What
we're
finding
is,
we've
also
got
a
new
area
with
what
is
it
20
houses
on
errand
View
Terrace,
which
is
a
new
development
that
just
came
through
and
you're,
seeing
traffic
coming
down
there
they're
coming
from
different
areas
down
and
so.
C
J
E
E
E
J
Very
quickly
to
that
I'm
in
real
estate
and
I'm
watching
this
community
in
this
community
is
in
a
transition
phase
you're
watching
bungalows,
going
to
second
storeys
you're,
seeing
families
expand
within
that
and
young
families
coming
in.
So
the
natural
progression
is
that
we
have
a
wide
diversity
of
demographics
with
seniors,
as
well
as
young
families
and
growing
families,
and
so
as
seniors
move
out
into
other
facilities.
You're
going
to
see
that
more
and
more
and
it's
going
to
impact
what
we're
dealing
with
now
being.
E
H
J
Think
that's
a
two-part
question,
so
first
I
would
say
that
the
answer
is
yes.
I
believe
that
rentals
there,
because
now
with
the
market,
the
way
it
is
and
if
you
look
at
our
housing
market,
we're
sitting
in
the
850
to
a
million
five
in
that
area
and
that's
not
taking
into
consideration
the
condo
buildings
as
owners.
J
B
J
B
K
You
scree
get
up.
Okay
I
did
send
last
year
to
cancel
holiday
email
concerning
about
this
development.
Dima
was
not
kind
of
a
high
technical
email,
but
it
was
kind
of
a
blunt
email
trying
to
explain
situation.
What
we
are
be
facing
when
this
Co
session
goes
through.
I
know
that
my
condominium
building
has
127
units
times,
3,
that's
1200
people
times
by
CC
or
or
we
talked
about
25
with
people
living
in
the
corner
of
the
West
Mall
we're
talking
about
the
600
as
600
parking
spaces
in
ycc,
281,
600
cars.
K
It's
fully
occupied
we're
not
talking
about
other
vehicles,
they're
renting
a
space
outside
on
a
visitor's
in
terms
of
their
people
having
a
businesses
and
parking
the
bigger
vehicles
outside
two
buildings.
Let's
at
all
have
vehicles
coming
out
of
those
buildings
every
day
right,
maybe
having
a
stop
sign
down
there
tonight
I
hear
nobody
talks
about
the
TTC.
We
have
two
lines
running
on
wellsworth.
K
K
Considering
that
the
owners
of
over
a
hundred
units
adjacent
to
this
future
construction
site
are
very
nervous
about
noise
levels,
because
if
you
look
at
the
design
of
these
buildings,
six
five,
six,
seven,
seven
fourteen
seven
fifteen
half
like
a
Halfmoon
shaped.
If
you
stand
in
front
of
those
buildings
right
down
there
at
the
Crescent
and
yell,
it's
not
only
a
noise,
its
amplified
totally
are
we
gonna
live
with
this
amplified
noise
for
the
next
two
years.
That's
that's!
That's
a
huge
huge,
huge
concern.
K
K
That's
going
the
427
south
from
the
401
East,
so
that's
that's
a
huge
huge
impact
on
our
lives
and,
looking
at
my
wife's
telling
me
all
the
morning,
like,
oh
I,
was
late
in
the
school
because
of
the
traffic,
so
bad
on.
Our
last
mall
ended
up
going
on
on
a
street
honor
on
a
street
light.
Today,
I'm
coming
up
the
West
Mall,
there
is
no
left
turning
lights
and
the
right
only
lights
on
on
this
intersection
is
huge.
The
problem
is
this
should
be
object.
K
Something
like
this
I
really
don't
know,
because
everybody
has
is
frightly
its
own
property
and
he's
trying
to
do
the
best
for
his
enterprise
in
there
and
understanding
that
is
the
city
ready
to
issue
this
license.
No,
it's
not
because
the
city
didn't
prepare
this
area
to
accept
these
new
dwellings
being
built
on
this
on
this
on
this
property
in
terms
of
the
storm
waters
in
terms
of
the
traffic
and
etc
and
etc.
K
So
my
personal
belief
is
careful
studies
about
the
noise
levels
during
the
construction,
considering
the
two
buildings
and
a
careful
studies
about
preparing
the
area
for
this
construction
to
be
done
so
in
terms
of
the
widen
the
streets,
improving
the
sewage
sewage
is
terrible.
Every
time
we
having
a
flood
waters
on
that
intersection,
wellsworth
and
anniversa
know
that
that
intersection
is
always
flooded
because
of
the
storm
waters.
K
K
E
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
the
traffic
in
the
area
and
I.
Think
everyone
in
the
room
will
agree
that
there's
an
existing
issue
with
traffic
congestion
and
volume,
and
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
configuration
of
the
streets.
We've
got
stop
signs,
stoplights,
multiple,
stop
signs
that
are
close
together.
I've
been
there
early
in
the
morning
and
I
know
exactly
what
it's
like.
As.
E
Ttc
buses,
pedestrians,
multiple
cars
stopped.
What
I
wanted
to
understand
is
if
you
agreed
or
disagreed
with
what
the
impact
of
the
development
is
on
the
area.
I
want
to
leave
aside
that
there's
already
a
background
issue.
What
the
engineers
have
told
us
is
that
in
the
morning
this
will
create
47
new
cars
and
in
the
afternoon
that
will
create
66
and
that's
the
combined
coming
and
going
do
you
feel
that
the
assessment
from
them
is
accurate
or
not,
not,
okay,
and
why?
K
K
E
This
I
want
to
make
a
difference
between
the
background
traffic
and
the
trip
generation
because
they
heard
from
Dana
our
data
already
that
there
was
some
concerns
about
the
background
levels
of
traffic
because
of
the
counts.
But
that's
one
thing,
but
the
other
thing
is
the
trip
generation
and
I'm
gonna
play
that
forward.
That
should
this
ever
get
challenged
into
an
adjudicative
place
like
the
L
Pat.
E
K
Just
said
to
improve
the
area,
basically,
what
you
have
to
do
is
if
you,
if
you
want
to,
for
example,
if
you
want
to
put
a
good
TTC
service
in
this
area,
all
the
people
are
people
realizing.
Oh,
no,
no,
no
TTC
services,
anyways
the
people
already
having
issues
boarding
the
city,
public
transportation
in
order
to
use
the
cars
right
so
to
help
meet
the
environment,
needs
they'll,
be
having
issues
because
of
the
older
traffic
and
we
all
witnesses
to
it.
How
that
TTC
buses
and
the
school
buses
are
just
standing
there
waiting
for
them.
K
K
So,
as
I
said,
you
have
a
you
having
almost
100
parking
spaces
in
two
buildings,
they're
already
there
and
pass
the
parking
spaces
of
the
rental
building
on
a
disconnected
field
and
now
you're,
adding
about
another
250
400,
and
it's
not
going
to
impact
the
area.
I.
Believe.
That's
not
that
true
point
of
view.
I.
E
Also
want
to
ask
about
the
stormwater
management,
because
this
is
a
different
title,
but
the
same
discussion
in
the
reports
here.
There
are
engineering
studies
that
are
saying
to
us
that
storm
water
and
sewage
is
adequately
handled,
but
you
said
you
were
worried
about
it.
Do
you
disagree
with
the
assessment
of
the
engineers
and
why
do
you
do
that?
Well,.
K
Okay,
I
hear
about
this
10
bit
underground
tank
to
be
built
to
collect
the
sewer
water
I'm.
Just
thinking
about
the
size
of
the
thing
it's
gonna
be
pretty
big.
All
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
what
I
mean
storm
waters
collecting
other
stuff.
Considering
you
know
there
are
pesticides,
oils
and
everything.
Are
you
putting
everything
in
the
ground
now
so
now
we
have
anything
environmental
impacts
so.
E
K
E
E
E
K
What
you
can
do
about
it,
maybe
mute
the
engine.
I
really
don't
know
what
you
can
do,
but
the
construction
noise,
the
construction
noise,
is
the
construction
noise.
You
cannot
deal
with
it
because
it
comes
from.
Machinery
comes
from
the
dig
in
the
ground
and
everything
and
squeaking
and
yelling
and
whatever
and
the
construction
workers.
We
know
they
pretty
loud
and
I
have
to
be
loud
but,
as
I
say
talking
about
the
children
and
the
families
they
actually
time
in
their
in
their
dwelling
during
the
construction
day.
K
K
K
K
E
E
K
E
K
E
K
B
E
So
mr.
Nicolosi
trophies
is
extremely
sensitive
us
on
this
project.
We
know
this
has
been
the
issue
from
day.
One
I
wondered
if
you
could
explain
to
community
council
your
assessment
of
the
traffic
impact,
so
you
would
have
critiqued
the
submissions
by
the
applicants
engineer
with
respect
to
trip
generation.
Can
you
tell
us
how
that
works
and
why
you
are
are,
or
maybe
you're
not
confident
with
the
numbers
that
they've
submitted
so.
I
Through
the
chair,
so
yes,
they
did
submit
a
traffic
impact
study
for
this
proposal
and
the
traffic
impact
study
estimated
the
number
of
trips
that
would
be
generated
by
the
development
and
it
adopted
in
order
to
do
that,
it
adopted
a
trip
generation
rates
that
are
part
of
the
Institute
of
Transportation
engineers,
land-use
tables,
in
our
in
the
trip
generation
manual.
That
is
typically
accepted.
Practice
in
the
industry
and
I
might
also
add
that,
generally
speaking,
the
trip
generation
rates
in
that
manual
are
very
suburban
in
nature.
I
That's
nll
trips
during
the
am
peak
hour
and
56
two-way
trips
during
the
p.m.
peak
hour
attend
all
trips
again.
That
equates
to
approximately
a
vehicle
a
minute
or
less
and
based
on
that
assessment,
we
reviewed
it.
We
critique
that
traffic
study
and
we
determined
that
the
traffic
impacts
of
development
are
acceptable.
So.
E
I
Through
the
chair
again,
there's
there's
generally
speaking,
there's
three
layers
that
are
part
of
a
typical
traffic
impact
study.
There's
the
existing
traffic
layer,
which
basically
you
go
out
to
the
intersections
that
are
part
of
the
study
area
and
you
count
the
vehicles
that
are
passing
through
the
us.
I
Then
there's
the
background
traffic
layer,
which
is
projected
vehicle
trips
that
are
part
of
the
just
general
growth
in
traffic
in
the
area.
So
a
percentage
per
annum,
usually
it's
about
half
a
percent
per
annum,
one
percent
per
annum
and
then
there's
the
trip
generation
rate
switch,
which
I
just
discussed
right
now,
which
is
the
the
other
layer
and
that
relates
to
the
site
traffic
layer.
I
You
amalgamate
all
those
layers
together
to
get
your
projected
future
volumes
and
in
terms
of
the
issue
that
you
pointed
out
in
terms
of
the
key
fob
for
the
existing
condominium
buildings
in
the
area,
whatever
traffic
is
generated
by
the
existing
condominium
buildings
or
any
building
in
the
area,
would
normally
be
captured
in
the
existing
traffic
volumes,
because
you're
actually
counting
vehicles
crossing
the
intersection
or
passing
through
the
intersection.
So
whatever
traffic
is
generated
by
any
building
in
the
area
would
be
part
of
the
existing
traffic
layer
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
so.
E
If,
for
whatever
reason,
the
studies
revealed
that
the
existing
traffic
levels
were
underrepresented,
it
was
a
stormy
day,
it
was
cold,
it
was
whatever
what
is
the
effect
if
it
turns
out,
there
is
more
background
traffic
on
the
area
and,
given
we
know
the
traffic
generated
by
the
development,
according
to
the
methodology
that
you
described
earlier,
that's
the
accepted
practice.
If
the
the
first
number
becomes
higher.
Is
that
good
bad?
Does
it
make
a
difference?
Is
the
percentage
of
one
now
become
less
of
the
other?
Do
we
have
a
problem
through.
I
The
chair,
generally
speaking,
when
any
of
those
layers
in
the
traffic
impact
study
that
I
mentioned
the
existing
traffic
layer,
the
background
traffic
layer
and
the
trip
generation
layer
any
of
those
layers,
if
they're
incorrect
to
a
significant
degree,
then
any
traffic
study,
the
results
are
conclusive.
That
traffic
study
are
basically
considered
null
and
void,
because
those
layers
are
incorrect.
The
question
becomes,
the
question
becomes:
how
significant
of
an
error
is
there?
We
are
dealing
with
something
that
is
for
lack
of
a
better
phrase:
balance
of
probabilities,
we're
dealing
with
human
behavior
here.
I
So
we
cannot
precisely
estimate
that
the
development
will
have
exactly
these
trips.
These
are
estimates
sure
there
are
some
days
that
the
trips
will
be
a
little
bit
higher.
So
they
said
the
trips
are
a
little
bit
lawyer,
but
we're
dealing
with
balance
of
probabilities
here,
we're
dealing
with
human
behavior.
So
it's
the
best
effort
that
we
can.
We
can
get
in
terms
of
estimating
all
those
layers,
but
to
your
point,
if
any
of
those
layers
are
incorrect
to
a
very
significant
degree,
then
it
could
alter
significantly
the
conclusions
of
the
traffic
study.
So.
E
Intersection
no
I'm,
just
saying
you
know
there
is
there
is
some
concern
over
the
numbers
that
were
expressed
by
people
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
this
community
council
is
confident
in
the
numbers.
The
number
that
was
given
to
us
in
the
PM
was
66.
If
it
turns
out
to
be
75
that
it
turns
out
to
be
43
compared
to
an
intersection
with
a
thousand
cars
in
it.
Maybe
fifteen
hundred
cars,
if
there's
a
large
margin
or
is
that
significant?
Does
that
change
your
view
of
things.
I
E
Okay,
I
wanted
to
just
summarize,
because
I
have
question
time,
just
your
job
as
a
planner
is
to
consolidate
to
the
file
and
connect
with
other
departments.
There
were
concerns
raised
from
an
engineering
perspective
and
wondering
if
you
could
offer
comment
to
that
on
how
you
what
you
saw
and
heard
from
the
engineering
professionals
that
reviewed
this
and
also
from
hydro
and,
if
hydro,
signed
off
on
this
project,
and
they
are
on
the
hook
to
deal
with
it.
M
Start
with
hydro,
it's
not
usual
to
get
into
questions
about
grid
capacity
in
terms
of
hydro.
Normally,
we
just
are
looking
to
find
out
where
are
their
lines
and
for
them
to
make
sure
that
no
one's
gonna
be
digging
through
their
stuff.
In
this
case,
though,
more
than
about
a
year
ago,
based
on
questions
that
were
raised
by
residents
and
turn
about
what
they
were,
thinking
of
us
brownouts
or
multiple
power,
Celgene
failures
in
the
area,
I
did
contact
Hydra
one
who
do
the
grid
distribution
and
ask
them.
M
You
know
if
there
was
any
concern
with
the
additional
density
and
if
the
grid
could
handle
it
and
they
wrote
back
very
quickly.
No
no
problems.
I
then
followed
up
with
a
phone
call
to
them
and
said
you
know.
This
is
the
concern
that
we
have.
We
want
to
make
sure
you
understood
the
question.
This
isn't
just
a
turn
the
crank
question.
We
really
want
to
make
sure
that
you've
done
the
analysis
to
come
up
and
say:
okay,
we'll
call
you
back
and
then
within
a
couple
weeks,
contacted
us
again
and
said:
no.
M
E
Just
in
the
interest
of
time,
if
we
can
have
a
brief
statement
about
whether
or
not
the
city
is
satisfied
with
the
water
capacity
engineering,
I
know
that
has
been
a
really
contentious
issue
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
engineering
department
is
on
the
record
of
being
satisfied
with
what
they've
got.
Because
that's
what
the
report
says
before
me
so.
E
Okay,
it's
just
on
it's
on
the
screen
behind
me
so
loud
and
clear.
Throughout
this
entire
process,
we've
heard
from
the
neighborhood
residents
a
little
personal
experience
for
myself,
moving
through
the
neighborhood
for
various
reasons,
including
taking
my
kids
to
baseball
games,
I
appreciate
the
issues
with
traffic
in
and
around
this
entire
intersection
series
of
intersections
around
the
collection
of
apartment
buildings.
E
So,
aside
from
the
development
that's
before
us,
this
motion
asks
the
transportation
services
department
to
come
back
to
the
community
council
and
talk
to
us
about
how
we
can
improve
all
of
the
configurations
of
the
roadways
there
just
to
make
it
work
better.
Whether
or
not
this
place
is
built
at
that
point
in
time
is
irrelevant.
I
think
there's
work
that
can
be
done
today.
E
Motion
number
one
B
is
another
extremely
sensitive
issue.
It's
something
that
I
hear
over
and
over
again
it
is
about
parking
and
I
will
submit
and
I've
said
it
publicly
before
that
central
Etobicoke
streets
don't
have
on
street
parking
it's
one
of
the
characters
that
we
have
that
defines
our
neighborhood.
E
It's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
set
ourselves
as
suburban,
not
urban
and
I-
think
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
development,
but
I
translate
that
to
concern
with
urbanization
and
what
we
have
in
central
Etobicoke,
and
so
in
order
to
protect
that
this
motion
changes
the
municipal
bylaws,
so
that
somebody
at
seventy
Dick's
Field
in
the
new
resident
or
the
existing
are
no
longer
eligible
to
exercise
an
application
for
on
street
parking.
So
that
takes
that
out
of
the
picture.
This
is
not
related
to
the
construction.
E
We're
gonna
deal
with
that
in
a
moment,
but
that
should
offer
some
comfort
that
if
the
developer
felt
and
I'm
not
saying
this
developer
is
but
the
developer
felt
you
know,
I'm
gonna
build
a
few
less
parking
spaces
and
maybe
we'll
just
let
the
residents
figure
it
out
and
end
up
on
the
street
in
a
few
years.
That's
not
going
to
happen.
I!
Don't
support
that
and
I.
E
Don't
think
anyone
in
the
neighborhood
would
the
next
motion
one
see
up
to
the
game
in
the
requirement
with
respect
to
having
a
communication
plan
with
a
couple
of
excellent
organizations
that
I've
dealt
with
I've
dealt
with
the
Dera
through
Melanie
and
I've
dealt
with
ycc
through
Dane
Dayna.
Sorry,
and
I
think
that
communication
plan
in
that
relationship
with
the
developer
needs
to
continue.
I
also
want
to
know
where
all
the
cars
are
going
to
go
during
the
construction
and
so
I'm
compelling
as
part
of
the
approval
process.
E
G
E
Finally,
also
a
communication
plan
for
the
existing
residents
in
the
building
there,
because
they're
going
to
be
in
a
construction
site
and
finally,
in
my
last
motion,
1d,
the
city
of
Toronto,
has
a
good
neighbor
guide
which
I
left
on
my
office
desk.
But
it
speaks
to
all
of
the
relationship
issues
that
occur,
including
noise,
dust,
water.
All
of
those
sorts
of
things
that
happen
during
construction
and
to
make
the
point
about
how
important
this
is.
E
I'm
going
to
ask
the
clerk
to
actually
provide
a
copy
to
the
applicant
as
a
symbolic
gesture
to
say
that
we're
going
to
be
following
the
good
neighbor
guide
and
all
the
principles
in
it.
So
as
the
gentleman
did
speak
to
us
about
noise
on
a
construction
site,
there
are
bylaws
around.
There
is
a
process
to
deal
with
it
and
I'm
real
serious
about
that.
So
you
know
the
office
of
the
councillor
doesn't
in
the
role
the
councillor
doesn't
stop
at
this
point
in
time.
E
The
councillor
has
to
see
through
all
of
the
changes
that
are
going
to
happen
in
the
neighbourhood,
help
integrate
any
development
which
which
has
been
proposed
today,
into
keeping
this
the
best
place
possible
and
working
through
a
process
to
make
sure
that
the
construction
goes
as
smoothly
as
possible,
and
that
really
just
involves
rolling
up
the
sleeves
and
working
with
people.
I
realize
that
this
has
been
a
very
difficult
development
for
a
lot
of
people.
E
A
lot
of
effort
has
been
put
into
it
through
community
representatives
who
really
have
rolled
up
their
sleeves
and
gone
through
all
of
the
details,
and
actually
are
continuing
to
do
that,
because
we
have
meeting
set
up
beyond
today
to
deal
with
all
of
the
all
of
these
issues.
I
thank
everybody
for
their
interest
in
this
this
matter.
As
issues
come
up,
please
make
sure
that
you
work
through
the
contacts
in
the
neighbourhood
or
directly
with
the
counsellors
office
with
that
I'll.
C
E
E
During
the
construction
plan,
we
will
be
able
to
manage
that
through
an
interim
parking
plan,
but
if
somebody
wanted
to
chapter
nine,
twenty
five
process
to
get
a
temporary
on
street
parking
permit
or
even
a
long-term
art
parking
permit,
they
have
been
excluded
and
that
particular
listing
of
trades
person
was
under
the
advice
of
parking
statute.
It's
good
good.
B
Motion
ability,
okay,
so
see
no
further.
Speakers
I
think
we
take
all
foil
as
a
package
agreed
and
ask
a
recorded
vote
on
all
of
them
all
in
favor
council
to
drug
joke
upset,
counselor
driver's
deputy
mayor
holiday,
counselor,
Channel
and
counselor
camel
it
carries
okay.
So
we'll
just
go
on
to
our
next
item.
F
B
Okay,
we
call
the
meeting
back
to
order,
so
we
have
a
number
of
speakers
here
and
the
way
it
looks
here
if
everyone's
used
their
five
minutes,
probably
here
for
an
hour
and
a
half
at
least
so,
please
listen
to
what
other
people
are
saying
and
try
not
to
repeat
what
other
deputies
are
saying.
Our
per
speaker
Eugene
holds
Florrick,
so
getting
come
close
that.
I
I
Evening,
everybody,
after
listening
to
the
other
people,
I
kind
of
made,
my
notes-
I
switched
my
notes
around
I'm,
going
to
try
and
do
it
really
quick
I
live
at
35,
some
Plains
Crescent
I'm
right
in
the
middle,
where
they
going
to
put
in
the
29
units.
When
the
first
started
they
recalled
townhouses
now
they're
called
units
before
I
get
into
that
on
Bloor
Street
they're,
going
to
build
nine
a
nine
story
unit
and
from
what
I
understand
is
the
parking
going
into
that
unit
is
only
accessible
coming
from
the
east
on
Bloor
Street.
I
B
N
I
That
means
there's
gonna,
be
around
200
cars
going
past
my
house
to
get
into
the
entrance
on
Bloor
Street
now
in
regards
to
the
twenty
nine
units
has
going
in
front
of
me.
There's
three
houses
on
that
block:
there's
33
35
and
37,
which
are
single-family
dwellings.
At
one
time
there
is
14
people
living
in
those
three
houses.
I
I
Are
going
to
be
constructed,
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
mini
village
because
of
all
that
people
there
there's
going
to
be
four
to
six
years
of
construction
in
front
of
me,
which
means
four
to
six
years
of
noise
traffic
and
a
lot
of
inconvenience
to
me.
There
is
going
to
be
not.
What
do
I
don't
know
is
how
the
parking
situation
is
going
to
be
when
that
construction
goes
up
when
the
construction
goes
up.
I
I
I
No,
those
townhouses
go
up.
Sorry
29
units
go
up.
Does
that
mean
my
taxes
are
going
to
go
up
or
my
tax
is
going
to
go
down?
There's
three
words
in
the
real
estate
business,
which
is
location,
location,
location,
people
do
not
want
to
move
in
to
my
house
if
I
want
to
sell
it
to
get
away
from
that
construction.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
for
me
to
construct
or
sell
the
house.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
for
me
to
rent
the
house.
I
I
Now,
on
Bloor
and
Mill
Road,
there
was
townhouses
going
up
a
few
years
ago
that
went
up
in
flames.
Twice,
there
was
a
complex
being
built,
a
townhouse
is
being
built
at
Fugate
and
Burma
Thorpe
that
went
up
in
flames
as
well.
I
want
to
know
what
kind
of
guarantee
that
the
Builder
is
going
to
give
me
that
the
townhouse
is
being
built
in
front
of
me
are
not
going
to
go
up
in
flames
as
well,
and
if
it
does
happen,
does
my
insurance
take
care
of
the
house.
I
That's
going
to
burn
down
if
it
flames
come
to
me
or
is
the
Builder
going
to
do
it,
the
parking
or
the
track?
That's
going
to
amount
to
me
this?
Is
it
there's
only
three
three
of
us
houses
on
to
that
stretch
of
Sun
Plains,
which
is
going
to
be
the
most
inconvenienced
of
all,
because
that's
what
traffic
is
going
to
do?
We
have
two
apartment
buildings
that
use
that
that
little
stretch
to
get
to
the
plaza
and
when
those
building
is
the
complex
is
going
to
be
built.
I
Not
only
the
nine
story,
townhouse
or
nine
story
building
is
going
up
on
Bloor,
Street,
plus
and
units
in
front
of
me
will
be
taking
broad
field
and
son
claims
to
get
into
their
units,
which
is
more
traffic
going
past
me,
it's
going
to
be
a
between
200
to
300
cars.
Going
past
me
during
rush
hour
in
the
morning
and
during
rush
hour
in
the
evening.
Please.
B
B
O
We've
written
numerous
letters
about
this
project,
but
the
feedback
is
not
forthcoming
and
we
have
not
even
acknowledged
receipt
for
that
matter.
Maybe
that's
common
practice.
We
would
like
to
take
a
much
simpler
approach
to
the
Sun
Plains
building.
We
live
on
Sun,
Plains,
33,
Sun,
Plains
and,
hopefully
we'll
get
feedback
for
all
our
neighbors.
We
would
like
to
ask
only
to
same
things
for
the
Sun
Plains
building,
both
of
which
should
not
cost
any
more
than
the
original
plans
indicate.
O
Firstly,
we
make
when
making
application
to
amend
the
zoning
code
with
regard
to
240
mark
land
in
your
table
of
sight,
Pacific
bylaws.
We
think
the
reference
is
chapter
324,
please
indicate
all
frontage
use
on
Sun
Plains
in
the
building
site.
Pacific
bylaws
written
application
include
what
exactly
is
specific
to
the
units:
the
arts,
the
balconies,
the
porches
and
what
is
common
front
yardage
to
the
building.
O
For
what
is
undertaken
by
the
unit
holders
can
they
have
or
have
not
barbecues,
for
instance,
can
they
have
flags,
or
could
there
be
a
write-up
on
this
sports
equipment
or
not
I
mean,
of
course,
if
the
kids
had
a
basketball
hoop
or
a
hockey
net.
There's
no
argument
there.
Just
encouragement,
please
indicate
also
where
trees
will
be
planted
and
further
to
that,
could
we
have
more
mature
trees
planted
rather
than
seedlings.
O
Okay
as
a
family
who
have
lived
on
some
Plains
for
approximately
thirty
years,
we've
enjoyed
the
green
space,
the
green
view
and
same
as
that
from
our
neighbor's
front
yards
with
mature,
majestic
trees,
even
hawks
nesting
across
the
road
from
us
children,
both
ours
and
240.
Marklin
residents
have
enjoyed
this
space
playing
catch,
tobogganing,
dog
walking.
It's
been
a
terrific
amenity
for
us
and
our
neighbors
all
these
years,
as
we
say,
there's
only
three
houses
on
the
street
across
from
this,
so,
secondly,
we
do
not
feel
it
would
greatly
affect
affect
your
property
plans.
O
If
we
were
to
push
back
the
Sun
Plains
property
offset
from
the
plan
say,
six
of
the
minimum
six
meters
north
to
10
meters
property
exists
there.
Please
consider
this
as
a
paramount
request
from
the
Sun
Plains
neighbors
and
a
goodwill
gesture
from
the
planners
to
the
Sun
Plains
owners.
This
should
not
impact
your
Sun
Plains
building
whatsoever.
A
good
construction
parking
plan
would
greatly
be
appreciated.
O
Also,
are
the
Sun
Plains
houses
going
to
experience
an
across
street
parking
lot
for
two
years
of
construction
for
the
main
building
and
then
another
two
years
of
construction
of
the
Sun
Plains
building?
We
would
have
a
four
to
five
year
impact,
far
greater
than
anyone
else
in
the
area.
Further
reason
to
compensate
us
on
Sun
Plains
with
a
bit
more
setback,
say
the
six
meters
minimum
to
ten
meters,
I
mean
what's
4
meters
amongst
friends
right
we
have
presented
here.
What
we
have
presented
here
is
viable
cost
effective
to
your
interest
and
all
parties.
O
E
B
A
You'll
five
minutes
members
of
council
think
about
the
opportunity.
I
want
to
talk
about
two
things:
one
is
the
apartment
block,
the
poetry
story,
apartment
block
on
Sun,
Plains
and
the
other.
If
I
have
time
about
about
the
parking
situation,
my
wife
signed
in
I
live
at
23,
Sun,
Plains
Crescent.
We
were
four
doors
away
from
the
redevelopment
site.
A
That's
proposed
here,
and
one
of
the
features
of
both
of
the
staff
report
was
the
references
to
the
Official
Plan
policies
that
govern
the
redevelopment
of
the
apartment
site
and
the
insistence
on
what
were
the
words
like
fit
in
with
respect
and
improve
the
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
In
our
view,
the
proposed
apartment
block
doesn't
do
a
good
job
of
doing
that
and
I
think
that's
a
fairly
simple
solution
for
that.
So
that
would
do
it
better.
A
A
A
bits
of
goodwill,
the
neighborhood,
what
the
proposal
seems
to
indicate
is
that
there
would
be
balconies,
except
on
the
first
floor
of
the
proposed
block.
There
would
be
balconies
and
in
the
back
of
the
built-ins,
essentially,
which
is
just
contrary
to
what
we
experienced
and
there
would
be
rental
units.
We
think
that
it
would
be
the
fairly
simple
solution
to
that
is
to
ask
for,
albeit
6,
meter
frontages.
A
Instead
of
16
meters
like
like
the
houses
so
intensification,
we
accept
no
problem
there,
but
to
look
for
the
the
three
stories
to
be
all
part
of
the
same
building
unit
same
home
and
for
the
with
a
reasonable
setback
that
would
be
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
and
where
there
would
be
in
a
condominium.
Those
would
be
condominium
also
so
there's
an
ownership
interest
so
that
people
who
live
there
I
have
an
interest,
as
we
do
in
the
look
of
the
neighborhood
and
in
the
participation
in
the
activities
of
the
neighborhood.
The.
A
A
There
are
certainly
some
beautiful
trees
on
the
property
across
the
street,
but
we
do
understand
the
desire
of
the
owner
to
make
some
other
use.
Let
me
just
quickly
talk
about,
so
those
small
changes,
I
think
would
make.
It
would
be
consistent
with
the
intent
of
official
plan
and
and
without
I
guess
the
changes
to
the
proposed
agreement.
We
would
see
that
the
Official,
Plan
and
intent
had
not
been
met.
A
Talk
quickly
about
parking,
we
have
a
fairly
quiet
street,
a
lot
in
law,
not
a
lot
of
traffic,
and
we
know
that
because
people
use
it
for
parking
instructions
or
and
with
that
the
school
parking
schools
drop
driving
schools
all
the
time,
so
people
are
backing
in
order
driveways
and
we're
in
parallel
park
and
so
on.
So
it
means
it's
a
quiet
street.
This
traffic,
this
proposal
will
increase
the
traffic
so
be
it
I
mean
this
is
recognize,
that's
going
to
happen.
A
The
issue
is
with
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
road
we're
already
starting
to
see
on
our
section
Street.
We
don't
see
that
very
often
and
it
doesn't
matter
cuz,
it's
so
lightly
used
as
it
becomes
more
intensively
used
and
as
we
have
inadequate
parking
on
the
post
site,
then
we
run
the
risk
I
think
of
having
both
sides
of
the
street,
and
then
we
do
have
a
problem,
safety,
inconvenience
and
so
on
on
the
street.
A
Our
sense
of
the
talking
about
the
numbers
here,
362
parking
spaces
provided
for
268
units
I-
think
that's
not
going
to
be
enough,
for
reasons
have
been
given
what
was
the
previous
application
and
by
patent
Carson
as
well,
and
then
we
end
up
a
situation.
We
have
a
street
essentially
plugged,
particularly
during
the
winter
and
particularly
during
construction
and
I,
think
that's
something
that
would
need
avoided
and
we,
rather
than
pester
the
bilat
people
full-time
to
try
and
get
cars
moved.
The
the
obvious
answer
is
to
it
provide
more
parking
on
the
site.
We.
E
A
It
may
be
that
the
we
started
over
the
last
few
years
to
have
a
bit
of
a
parking
problem.
Both
sides
of
the
street
further
down
in
front
of
patent
cars,
10
men
on
one
Marklin
drive,
that's
fairly.
Recent
I
was
with
news
to
me
when
we
saw
your
motion
that
people
had
actually
applied
for
permits
to
do
that,
and
maybe
they
have
anybody
else,
but
there's
I
mean
now
all
of
a
sudden.
We
do
have
both
sides
of
the
street
quite
commonly
not
so
much
up
our
side.
A
P
Evening,
counselors
at
home,
Michael
George
office
and
I'm
a
resident
mark
Lynwood
living
in
the
northeast
quadrant
of
Mark
Lane
at
21,
Cosby,
Court
you're,
probably
asking
yourselves.
Why
would
I
be
concerned
about
a
potential
development
that
is
being
planned
on
the
other
side
of
Mark
land?
Well
I've
been
following
this
proposal
since
2011,
when
it
was
first
brought
to
the
communities
a
community's
attention
as
an
18-story
development
tower
proposal.
My
concern
with
the
proposal
like
everyone
else's
at
the
time,
was
that
there
was
no
compatibility
and
fit
within
the
physical
character
of
our
community.
P
I,
like
many
residents,
believe
that
this
is
still
the
case
and
with
the
most
recent
proposal,
even
though
planning
staff
seem
to
disagree
while
the
applicant
has
come
a
long
way
since
his
original
proposal
has
tried
to
accommodate
the
request
of
the
community,
many
of
my
neighbors
believe
that
there's
still
room
for
further
revision,
not
only
to
the
benefit
not
only
to
benefit
the
entire
community,
but
him
as
well.
They
shouldn't
be
construed
as
nitpicking
by
our
community
and
definitely
not
telling
him
to
go
away.
P
We
understand
that
the
applicant
has
every
right
to
build
on
his
property,
but
he
should
do
so
taking
into
consideration
his
location
in
an
already
established
community.
We
are
simply
asking
for
two
further
amendments
to
his
current
proposal,
not
being
the
overall
height
of
the
Bloor
building.
We
reduce
about
one
story
and
additional
terracing
be
added
to
the
south
end
of
the
building,
starting
with
the
seventh
floor.
You'll
hear
more
to
that
later
this
evening.
Specific
to
the
first
point,
this
request
is
being
made
because
of
the
precedent-setting
nature
of
this
application.
P
Both
the
applicant
planning
both
know
that
it's
a
precedent-setting
development
not
only
for
community
but
Ward
3
as
well,
and
that's
why
I
Community
Council
needs
to
take
the
lead
in
the
shirring
that
this
project
is
done
right.
The
applicant
will
argue
that
losing
a
floor
and
additional
terracing
will
cost
them
greatly,
but
this
won't
be
the
case
as
we're
not
asking
him
to
cut
it
in
half
you
wish
we
could
currently,
including
his
application.
P
Surprisingly,
the
application
I'm
referring
to
is
located
a
sixty
Dick's
field
drive,
which
you
just
had
the
opportunity
to
listen
to
and
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
to
bring
it
up
is
because
for
this
development,
the
applicant
is
choosen
chosen,
the
infill
with
four
structures,
a
six
story
building
at
three
three-story
buildings.
Why
is
this
relevant?
It's
relevant
because
it
involves
an
applicant
that
is
trying
to
fit
his
development
within
an
existing
community,
and
in
doing
so
he's
able
to
do
it
do
so
at
a
much
smaller
scale
and
still
maintain
profitability.
P
So,
while
this
is
proof
that
such
a
development
can
be
accomplished,
we
are
we
are
from
a
built,
but
not
obviously
from
a
traffic
fit
as
you've
already
heard
tonight.
We're
not
demanding
that
the
applicant
changes
entire
proposal,
we're
only
making
two
simple
requests
that
will
allow.
Is
this
proposal
to
fit
better
within
our
community
and
lessen
the
impact
it
will
have
on
the
residents
near
it
doing
so
will
make
them
a
true
neighbor.
P
We
therefore
respectfully
ask
all
the
counselors
present
tonight
to
support
us
as
a
community
and
vote
in
favor
of
our
two
requested
amendments
in
order
to
ensure
that
this
first
major
development
in
our
community
fits
properly
and
sets
a
workable
precedent
for
any
future.
The
similar
developments,
not
only
within
our
community,
but
also
Ward
3.
P
C
P
It's
precedent
setting,
because
what
we've
heard
from
City
Planning
is
the
development
has
always
looked
at
individually.
They
don't
concern
any
future
development
be
in
the
same
block
and
in
the
same
neighborhood
whatever.
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
if
the
building
is
a
lot
to
go
taller
than
the
existing
building
the
next
development
and
there's
potential
for
at
least
three
to
four
properties,
to
being
developed
in
our
community
right
around
that
one
that
will
set
a
precedent
and
every
every
development
after
the
fact
will
be
taller
and
taller
than
the
existing
buildings.
P
P
B
C
Cars,
but
when
you
drive
down
in
the
daytime,
there's
rubbish
out
front.
So
my
thing
we
talk
about
probability
we're
going
to
if
they
can't
manage
the
units
that
they
have
there
right
now.
Why
would
we
assume
that
we
give
them
more
units
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
manage
the
parking
so,
like
I
just
took
a
picture
here?
This
was
last
night.
There
was.
There
was
42
cars
parked
on
the
road,
both
sides
and
again
it
would
be
look
at
somebody
was
speaking
before
and
they
talked
about
probabilities.
C
B
F
Good
evening
counselors
staff
and
fellow
mark
Landers,
we
appreciate
your
support.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
counselors
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
about
the
rezoning
application
for
240
märklin
Drive
I
live
at
239
Markland
drive,
which
is
diagonally
across
the
street
at
lore,
I'm,
Georgina,
Velasquez
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
market,
wood
homeowners
association.
We
represent
approximately
1,300
homeowners,
we
are
volunteer,
not-for-profit
community
organization.
We
have
been
in
existence
for
almost
60
years,
and
many
politicians
have
described
us
as
one
of
the
most
active
and
well
organized
group
in
the
GTA.
F
We
have
a
long
history
of
dedicated
and
involved
directors.
We
publish
a
monthly
newsletter,
the
mark
Lander,
which
keeps
all
the
residents
informed
about
issues
that
may
affect
our
community.
We
have
several
internal
committees
analyzing
and
advocating
for
public
safety,
traffic
safety,
government
relations,
Airport
matters,
social
events,
students,
scholarships,
the
Christmas
Caravan
and
finally,
a
special
committee
formed
in
2011
for
this
specific
rezoning
proposal.
F
Our
residents
are
proud
of
their
community
and
are
committed
to
maintaining
it
as
a
wonderful
place
to
live
the
principle
sharpening
our
association
or
the
following
three
one:
to
protect
and
promote
the
interests
of
the
Markman
wood
area
of
the
City
of
Toronto.
Two
to
further
the
orderly
development
of
märklin
wood
in
such
manner
as
to
preserve
and
enhance
the
area
three
to
create,
foster
and
maintain
a
community
spirit
in
Marklin.
Would
let
me
now
direct
our
attention
to
the
rezoning
application
to
four
to
forty
murkland
drive.
F
The
mwha
has
been
closely
monitoring
this
development
proposal
since
2011,
as
well
as
all
the
subsequent
revised
application,
is
noticed
in
the
city
planning
documents
since
2011
based
upon
residents
requests,
we
retained
a
professional
urban
planner
to
advise
us
on
this
matter.
We
have
held
for
community
meetings
with
attendance
of
well
over
250
residents.
Each
time
we
participated
with
residents
and
community
consultation
meetings
as
well.
We
conducted
two
community
surveys
on
what
we
and
Marklin
would
wanted
to
see
on
this
site.
F
There
was
a
significant
rate
of
return
of
the
surveys
and
there
will
be
another
speaker
who
will
discuss
those
surveys
in
detail.
The
community
has
been
continuously
informed
of
everything
that
the
MWA
has
been
doing.
With
regards
to
this
rezoning
application.
We
have
been
caned
continuous
communication
with
our
councilor
and
deputy
mayor
Steven
Holliday,
and
we
appreciate
his
support
and
his
his
commitment
to
us
in
terms
of
meeting
with
us
and
talking
to
us
and
whenever
we
asked
of
that,
we
have
convened
many
meetings
with
the
City
Planning
Department.
F
We
see
the
motion
is
the
settlement
that
is
endorsed
by
our
board
of
director
directors
and
consists
of
two
parts:
a
reduce,
reducing
the
height
of
the
building,
and
you
have
already
heard
that
we
are
very
concerned
that
a
taller
building
is
not
appropriate
to
the
site
and
anything
taller
would
set
a
very
dangerous
precedent
for
the
other
apartment
properties
in
the
area.
There
are
currently
five
apartment
buildings
in
märklin
wood,
and
that
includes
240,
murkland
and
then
incorporating
terracing
on
the
south
side
of
the
building.
F
So
our
neighbors,
and
though
in
those
are
most
streets,
do
not
look
at
a
concrete
slab.
Our
planner
well,
who
is
here
tonight,
will
speak
further
to
these
two
points
when
he
makes
his
presentation.
As
you
know,
the
applicant
has
filed
an
appeal
with
with
what
what
used
to
be
called
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
was
now
lap
pad.
F
We
want
to
inform
you
that
we,
the
Association,
have
notified
lap
pad
that
we
have
asked
for
party
status.
We
are
here
to
represent
the
community
and
we
are
here
to
see
this
through.
However,
we
would
like
to
come
to
a
satisfactory
resolution
in
partnership
with
the
city.
We
ask
for
your
support
of
the
motion
and
the
amendment
and
we
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
E
E
F
F
M
Good
evening,
so
my
name
is
Catherine,
McCarty
and
I'm
here
as
a
concerned
resident
of
Markman
wood
and
I'm
speaking
to
you
tonight
as
the
president
of
the
townhouse
condominium
time,
Terrace,
the
next-door
neighbor
of
240
Markland
drive
time.
Terrace
is
a
collection
of
sixty
attached
townhomes
in
three
different
buildings
with
an
entrance
and
a
common
corridor,
as
well
as
private
backyard
and
patio
space,
along
with
extensive
green
common
space
and
gardens.
M
Technically,
as
you
enter
the
townhomes
off
a
common
hallway,
they
are
amazing
nets
or
small
homes
without
with
windows
on
only
one
side
of
the
units.
The
complex
was
built
in
1964-65
by
John
Farrow
Cody,
who
is
here
this
evening.
The
architect
was
Joseph
Kelton,
most
known
for
the
guild
in
in
Scarborough,
which
unfortunately
no
longer
exists,
but
was
quite
famous
in
its
day
like
many,
he
townhouse
complexes
built
in
the
60s
Tyne
Terrace
is
in
need
of
a
little
bit
of
TLC,
but
those
lucky
enough
to
live.
M
There
know
that
it's
a
diamond
in
the
rough
just
waiting
to
show
the
neighbourhood
how
special
and
smart
looking
you
can
be.
Tyin
Terrace
is
my
home
and
our
homes,
yours
and
mine,
have
a
special
place
in
our
hearts.
It's
where
we
feel
safe,
where
we
relax,
where
we
create
memories
with
our
family
and
where
we
sleep
and
recuperate
to
face
the
next
hectic
day
in
our
busy
lives,
and
our
neighborhood
is
an
extension
of
that
home.
M
It's
where
we
walk
our
dogs
go
to
the
park
with
our
children,
jog,
walk
cycle
and
watch
our
children
play
our
neighborhood
märklin
Wood
is
a
very
special
place
to
live.
It's
an
older,
suburban,
it's
in
older,
suburban
Etobicoke,
known
for
its
green
spaces
and
watercourses.
We
have
a
neighborhood
association
with
Zacks
on
our
behalf
to
make
sure
our
neighborhood
is
welcoming
and
safe.
M
They
keep
us
informed
of
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood,
such
as
the
proposed
GTAA
increase
in
air
traffic,
which,
thankfully,
after
a
lot
of
hard
work
by
a
lot
of
people
and
support
from
all
levels
of
government,
has
been
avoided.
I
now
realize
sorry
now,
I
realize
that
nothing
stays
the
same
and
the
Ontario
growth
plan
for
the
Greater
Golden
Horseshoe
calls
for
intensification
of
existing
built
areas
and
that
Etobicoke
Centre
is
identified
as
one
of
those
locales
for
this
intensification.
M
I
would
just
like
to
remind
the
council
that
Marklin
wood
is
at
the
furthest,
most
Western
point
of
the
area
bordering
on
Mississauga
and
that
blur
street
from
Kipling
to
Mississauga
has
no
infill
developments
greater
than
four
storeys
being
primarily
a
residential
Road,
with
single-family
homes,
townhomes
and
supporting
strip
mall
structures.
When
assignments
posted
on
240
Markland
Drive
that
a
development
proposal
within
the
works,
you
can
be
sure
that
the
neighbors
of
Pine
Terrace
took
notice.
What
would
the
proposed
development
look
like?
Presumably
a
three
or
four
storeys
building
or
set
of
buildings?
M
This
would
have
been
my
choice
both
for
our
complex
and
the
neighbourhood
as
a
whole,
stacked
executive,
townhomes
of
four
storeys,
along
with
a
four-story
one
and
two-bedroom
condominium,
with
plenty
of
green
space,
gardens
and
setbacks
from
the
smaller
residential
streets
with
respect
to
those
homes.
Now
that
would
have
fit
nicely
into
mark
Lynwood.
M
Unfortunately,
I
know
that
that
is
not
the
proposal
before
you
today
and
I'm.
Also
aware
that
all
of
the
hard
work
that's
gone
on
on
this
project
by
the
märklin
was
homes
associations,
especially
those
on
the
committee
City
Planning,
as
well
as
the
hard
work
and
many
hours
spent
on
this
file
by
councillor
Holliday
at
2:40
mark
on
Drive
community
meeting.
M
At
Silverthorne,
collegiate
I
specifically
asked
councillor
Holliday
if
he
would
allow
the
precedent
of
a
tall
building
a
building
that
that
that
taller
than
the
existing
apartment
building
now
on
site
to
be
built
at
240,
Markland
Drive,
and
he
was
a
that
he
would
not
allow
that
precedent
to
be
set.
I
would
like
to
thank
counselor
Holliday
for
staying
the
course
and
working
hard
to
avoid
that
precedence.
The
Markman
would
homes
association
has
proposed
an
amendment
to
the
city
planning
proposal,
which
prevents
such
a
high
precedent.
M
It
is
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
Bloor
Street,
building
by
one
floor
and
add
terracing
to
its
Southside.
Tyne
Terrace
supports
these
amendments
because
reducing
the
height
of
this
building
by
one
story
and
terracing,
the
south
side
of
the
building
will
increase
the
sunlight
to
the
homes
near
the
new
build.
As
previously
mentioned,
our
homes
have
windows
on
only
one
side.
M
B
M
M
Unless
is
inclusive
of
the
proposed
amendment
and
in
conclusion,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that,
should
we
be
faced
with
another
development
such
as
this
I
would
think
that
the
developer
planning
government
representatives
and
the
community
can
come
together
to
do
a
much
better
job
to
find
a
more
appropriate
and
liveable
addition
to
märklin
would
thank
you.
Joe.
Q
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
community
council,
my
name
is
Peter
Smith
I'm,
the
planning
consultant,
who
has
been
advising
the
markleham
wood
homeowners
association
on
this
application,
since
January
2013
in
my
presentation,
I'll
focus
on
the
Official
Plan
and
ask
Council
to
reflect
on
the
implication
of
certain
policies
and
I
will
support
the
recommendation
of
the
mwha
in
the
letter
that
you've
received.
Firstly,
I'll.
Q
Take
you
to
official
plan
policy
for
point
to
point
to
a
development
in
apartment
neighbourhoods
and
I'm,
paraphrasing
slightly
we'll
locate
and
mask
new
buildings
to
provide
a
transition
between
areas
of
different
development,
intensity
and
scale
through
in
part.
A
stepping
down
of
height
towards
lower
scale
neighborhoods
in
its
role
in
the
role
of
council,
is
to
interpret
and
determine
compliance
with
its
Official
Plan.
The
policy
is
clear
that
the
low
scale
neighborhood
is
the
thing
to
transition
to.
Q
But
the
questions
before
council
today
are
what
is
the
height
that
new
infill
trend
should
transition
from
and
what
constitutes
appropriate
transition
in
the
March
2011
planning
report
that
accompanied
the
first
submission.
It
stated
in
response
to
this
policy
that
building
massing
steps
back
to
create
a
transition
to
the
south
and
east,
responding
to
a
jinx
and
lower
scale
development.
It
also
steps
back
to
the
West,
responding
to
the
height
of
the
existing
ten
story,
building
and
concluded
that,
in
their
opinion,
it
was
consistent
with
the
plan
policies
of
the
Official
Plan.
Q
So
the
applicants
position
was
that
so
long
as
the
building
provided
transition
with
its
in
its
own
massing,
it
comply
with
the
opie.
It
didn't
matter
that
the
building
at
the
time
was
15
stories.
Forty
eight
point:
seven
meters
tall,
it
was
1.75
times
1
in
3/4
times
the
height
of
the
existing
building
there
today,
and
they
felt
that
that
complied
it
wasn't
until
four
and
a
half
years
and
three
submissions
later
that
the
applicant
proposed
anything
close
to
the
height
of
the
existing
building
and
that's
the
same
height.
That's
before
count
community
council.
Q
Today,
it's
the
height,
even
though
it's
9
stories
it's
the
height,
that
is
a
has
a
main
roof
one
meter
or
more
taller
than
the
existing
building
and
a
mechanical
penthouse.
That
is
larger
in
area
and
one
additional
story
about
three
meters
taller
than
the
mechanical
penthouse
on
the
existing
building.
In
the
current
proposal,
the
building
facing
broad
field
Drive
goes
straight
up
to
its
full
height
above
the
three-story
townhouse
base.
Q
Should
a
slab
building?
That's
located.
10
meters
in
the
street
go
straight
up
six
storeys
above
the
three-story
base,
or
would
terracing
at
the
top
better
improve
that
transition
to
the
neighborhood.
If
you
approve
the
staff
recommendations
to
support
the
peel
the
appeal,
you
are
saying
that
it's
council's
opinion
that
it's
okay
to
transition
up
before
transitioning
down
I
want
each
of
you
to
think
about
tower
and
the
Park
apartment
sites
within
your
own
Ward,
and
to
understand
that,
should
you
support
this
Official
Plan
interpretation,
the
question
will
not
be.
Q
Is
it
appropriate
to
be
taller?
The
question
will
be
how
much
taller
is
appropriate
also
needs
to
be
considered
in
relation
to
larger
Official
Plan
policies.
Significant
growth
is
intended
for
the
mixed
use
areas,
designations
in
the
center's
and
the
avenues.
The
site
is
not
designated
in
mixed
use.
Areas
and
Bloor
Street
in
the
theory,
is
not
an
Avenue
in
the
apartment,
designation
policy.
Four
point:
three
two
point
three
says:
significant:
significant
growth
is
generally
not
intended
within
developed
neighborhoods.
Q
The
avenues
and
mid-rise
guidelines
referred
to
in
the
staff
report
speak
to
the
maximum
amount
of
development
on
avenues
which
are
intensification
areas.
The
proposed
development
exceeds
the
height
recommended
in
the
mid
rise
guidelines,
even
though
the
site
is
not
an
intensification
area.
In
my
opinion,
the
proposal
does
not
conform
to
these
apartment
neighbourhood
policies,
but
in
my
opinion,
the
change
required
for
the
building
to
comply
is
not
significant.
Q
I'd
recommend
the
council
amend
recommendation
one
of
the
staff
report
and
support
the
development,
but
only
with
the
reduction
in
height
at
one
story
and
with
the
terracing
to
the
south
end
of
the
building.
In
conclusion,
it's
understandable.
The
residuals
we
are
hearing
from
today
will
have
different
opinions,
but
the
mwha
recommendations
are
a
result
of
a
well-considered
position
of
the
board
and
has
been
taken
out
and
well
discussed
and
communicated
with
the
broader
community
and
has
my
experience
of
the
meanings
abroad
endorsement
from
the
brought
the
community.
They
reflect.
Q
N
Wood
homeowners
association
and
the
two
amendments
they
suggest
I
think
I
was
5
years
old
when
this
issue
first
came
to
the
board
and
now
I'm
77
and
sure
enough,
we
still
haven't
resolved.
An
awful
lot
of
work
is
going
on
on
this.
These
are
reasonable
requests.
They
are
not
ill-thought-out.
They
really
have.
N
And
make
sure
it
happened
because
it
is
precedent-setting
and
it's
an
ugly
president.
It
isn't
one
that's
nice
and
charming,
and
wouldn't
it
be
ducky
if
we
all
had
something
like
that
next
door,
no,
it
wouldn't
be
ducky
at
all,
and
tine
Terrace
doesn't
need
to
break
from
this
potentiality.
So
thank
you.
E
B
G
Thank
you,
city
planners
and
staff
and
city
councilors
for
this
opportunity
to
express
our
concerns
about
the
oversize
development
at
2:40.
Markland
I
feel
like
David
versus
Goliath,
but
as
a
Markland
home
owner
I
am
one
of
the
almost
1,300
David's
that
are
fighting
this
development
I
was
very
attracted
to
märklin.
I
left
the
Kings
way
up
here.
It's
in
a
beautiful
neighborhood
with
mature
trees,
green
spaces,
well-kept
homes,
private
driveways
bases
between
homes,
I
could
have
bought
a
house
in
other
areas.
G
Much
cheaper,
but
I
went
for
Martha
and
I'm
very
happy
and
I
love
it
here.
Märklin,
I,
georgina,
have
your
speech.
Market
provides
a
monthly
newsletter.
We
kept
informed.
We
have
equal
events,
family
events,
we
have
festival
celebrations.
We
have
scholarships,
we
don't
just
get
together
to
rally
around
the
problem
we
get
together
and
it's
from
the
60s
and
it's
continuous.
G
I
yet
I
admit
that
it's
not
all
single
dwelling
homes,
there
are
two
loads
of
townhouses,
there's
Department
to
the
north
and
east
of
240,
there's
other
apartments
at
Mill
Road
there
burn
absorb,
which
includes,
impacts
very
few
private
homes,
because
there's
a
big
school
there
and
the
one
that
they
love
bluer
have
neighbors
of
a
park
and
a
school.
So
they
don't
impact
private
homes
either,
but
you
can't
legitimately
call
Marklin
an
apartment.
Neighborhood.
G
The
low
density
is
one
of
the
factors
that
raises
our
home
values
and
in
this
appeal
to
the
buyers
here,
the
landlord's
have
been
in
this
neighborhood.
They
bought
that
building
from
sometime
in
the
70s
and
they've
got
nothing
to
reflect
the
aesthetic
appeal
of
Markland
I
know
when
the
pool
was
closed.
People
say
that
they
took
the
dirt
from
the
gas
station
at
Bloor
at
Mill
when
they
were
building
those
child
houses.
So
I'd
like
a
soil
sample
taken
of
the
fill,
that's
in
that
pool
before
anything
goes
ahead.
G
G
Live
south
of
Newark
and
when
I
was
coming
for
the
West
Hall
I
never
go
down
mark
the
road,
it's
less
congested
if
I
use
Mill
Road
so
and
you
have
to
consider
that
Bilbo
has
Dollarama
McDonald's
to
and
Bank
a
Medical
Center
few
stores.
But
it's
always
less
congested.
So
don't
drive
our
Bartlet
even
as
it
is.
G
There's
others
issues
around
our
neighborhood.
We
are
in
the
flooding
study
area
38.
We
can't
keep
up
with
our
instrument
for
structure
right
now
with
the
existing
buildings
and
I
wonder
if,
even
with
future
construction,
it
can
handle
164
more
units.
So
there
are
now
on
the
west
side
of
märklin
there's
also
the
floodplain,
which
was
established
through
Hurricane
Hazel.
So
it's
very
close
to
that
and
I
think
that
she
have
extra
consideration,
but
here's
the
good
news
we
have
a
way.
We
have
an
answer
to
this
development.
It's
called
the
bylaws.
G
The
bylaws
exists
to
help
all
of
us,
they're,
fair
and
equal
to
all
of
us.
They've
been
here
for
years
since
the
first
proposals,
the
developers
just
don't
like
them,
because
they're
not
going
to
make
as
much
money
as
they
want.
So
the
other
people
have
spoken,
maybe
more
efficiently,
but
bluer
is
27
meters
wide.
So
a
new
building
should
not
be
higher
than
that
with
Heights.
E
E
G
New
units
expect
that
the
grossa
longest
part
of
Bloor
and
is
in
stark
contrast
to
the
almost
1300
private
homes,
I
believe
as
a
current
bylaws,
would
allow
them
with
crews
for
every
resident
units
by
one
build
it.
The
45-degree
angles
that
the
developer
used
to
establish
the
height
of
the
new
buildings.
He
took
the
the
border
of
the
townhouses
on
the
east
sit
on
the
south
side.
He
went
across
the
street
to
the
and
I,
don't
understand
how
he
could
do
that
legitimately.
I,
don't
understand
all
the
details,
but
I
understand
greed.
G
G
So,
city
planners,
the
decision
you
make
tonight
affects
two
developers
who
are
after
money
who
did
not
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
1300
private
homeowners.
The
damage
is
permanent.
It's
not
just
a
temporary
construction.
We
can
always
do
that.
Don't
like
it.
It's
the
permanent
evaluation,
the
change
in
the
density
of
Monica
Wilson's,
an
upscale
neighborhoods,
not
quite
the
famous
others.
Things
consider
that
Thank.
M
M
The
current
proposal
for
the
tallest
structure
at
240
mark
land
Drive
West,
is
one
meter
higher
than
the
existing
apartment
buildings.
This
may
seem
trivial
to
you,
but
is
actually
of
major
importance.
What
you
instruct
your
legal
department
to
do
regarding
the
OMB
hearing
will
set
a
precedent.
The
owner
of
all
the
apartment
buildings
on
Bloor
and
the
owner
of
the
McDonald's
Plaza
will
all
be
watching
you
if
the
City
Planning
Department
gives
a
positive
report
for
this
proposal
and
you,
the
councillors,
do
not
direct
your
legal
department
to
oppose
this
position
at
the
OMB.
M
Then
what
is
to
stop
the
owners
of
all
of
these
other
properties
to
ask
for
further
adjustments
to
their
current
zoning
restrictions
and
proposed
even
higher
structures
to
be
built
on
the
parking
lots
adjacent
to
their
buildings?
There
has
to
be
rational
limits
when
the
Markland
wood
homeowner
Association,
raised
the
president
setting
nature
of
the
240
mark
land
proposal.
The
City
Planning
Department
staff
confessed
that
they
only
examine
one
site
application
at
a
time
and
thus
had
not
considered
the
likelihood
of
the
owners
of
the
other
properties
making
similar
applications.
M
I
was
shocked
when
they
made
such
an
admission.
Considering
the
growth
plans
of
the
province
and
the
City
of
Toronto,
anyone
can
see
that
growth
over
the
next
dozen
years
will
be
vertical.
I
am
angered
that
the
urban
planners
that
are
paid
through
my
taxes
can't
or
won't
consider
the
significance
of
precedent.
I
asked
that,
as
elected
officials,
you
not
make
the
same
error
as
the
bureaucrats
in
the
planning
department.
I
asked
you
to
show
courage
and
leadership
in
voting
against
the
240
Markland
Drive
proposal.
M
R
R
Giving
me
councilors
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening.
My
name
is
Anna
Schaeffer
and
I've
lived
in
mark
Lynwood
for
23
years.
It
has
been
an
amazing
community
to
raise
my
family
and
I
look
forward
to
living
here
for
another
23
years.
God
willing
I,
am
here
today
to
make
this
deputation
regarding
240
Marklin,
because
not
only
is
it
in
my
backyard,
it
is
in
my
neighbor's
backyards
and
here
in
Marklin
wood.
R
Today,
we
have
come
a
long
way
from
that
original
proposal.
As
your
Planning
Department
stated
in
2013,
the
redevelopment
of
240
märklin
is
a
challenging
project
because
of
the
location
of
the
existing
building
on
the
site.
A
workable
scheme
which
respects
the
result,
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
produces
a
project
of
good
quality,
is
not
impossible,
but
will
require
require
creative
design
solutions.
R
I
would
like
to
reiterate
that,
even
though
we
have
come
a
long
way
in
the
last
seven
years,
the
term
respect
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood
has
not
been
acknowledged
in
any
discussions
or
deemed
an
important
factor
in
any
decisions
made
or
proposed
by
respect.
I
am
referring
to
the
height
of
this
new
building,
the
cascading
we
seek
and
the
interference
this
project
will
inevitably
have
on
our
lives.
This
new
building
cannot
be
higher
than
the
existing
building.
We
have
four
other
apartment
properties
in
our
community,
a
Golf
Club
and
a
plaza.
R
This
would
set
a
precedent
to
all
these
properties.
If
this
rezoning
of
height
was
allowed,
the
reduction
in
height
may
seem
irrelevant
to
all
of
you,
but
it
would
be
disrespectful
to
all
of
us,
knowing
that
this
could
happen
six
more
times
in
our
community.
Within
our
circle,
we
have
a
little
community
called
time
Terrace.
These
were
built
as
maser
nets.
These
little
homes
are
right
next
door
to
240
Markland.
They
don't
want
to
lose
their
sunlight,
nor
do
they
want
to
stare
at
a
brick
wall
there.
R
A
spectral
solution
would
be
to
accommodate
the
existing
mark
lenders.
After
all,
they
were
there
first
respectfully.
This
development
should
not
interfere
negatively
with
our
daily
lives.
Obviously
we
will
all
have
to
make
an
adjustment,
but
our
compromises
should
be
minimal
and
the
developer
seeking
to
interfere
with
our
neighborhood
should
be
made
aware
of
the
responsibilities
associated
with
such
a
grand
project
in
our
midst.
Please
consider
these
suggestions
in
November
2002
City
Council
adopted
the
following
most
of
Toronto's
already
built
with
at
least
one
generation
of
buildings.
R
B
S
Anyways
good
evening,
I
moved
in
this
area.
1956
and
I.
Remember
something
visit.
It's
coming
west
on
Dundas
crossing
the
Humber
River.
There
was
a
large
billboard.
The
billboard
said,
welcome
to
Etobicoke
first
planned
community
in
North,
America
and
since
then,
I've
noticed
and
appreciate
it
and
the
part
of
the
development
of
Etobicoke,
and
it
has
followed
planning,
good
architecture
and
sensible
development.
There
has
been
a
few
applications
made
any
topical
to
rezone
and
I'll,
bring
up
the
Humber,
Humber
Plaza
attempt,
and
we
all
know
what
happened
there.
S
They
removed
part
of
that
site
plan
when
they
removed
the
garden
wall,
protecting
the
parking
lot
from
Bloor
Street.
There
was
a
garden
wall
there,
a
built
of
perforated
block
and
and
shrubbery
that
was
removed
and
the
parking
lot
and
larged.
Actually
it
contravenes,
didn't
ask
for
a
permit.
There's
no
permit
taken
up
for
that.
That's
not
slapping
and
arista.
S
Now
there
are
some
very
specific
clauses,
I
just
like
to
read
a
couple
of
you
and
it
says:
encouraging
a
sense
of
place
in
communities
by
promoting
well-designed
built
form
and
by
conserving
features
that
help
define
local
character.
That's
a
direction
from
this
policy.
There's
also
one
more
sentence
that
I
want
to
say
that
submissions
or
advice
affecting
the
planning
matter
that
are
provided
by
the
City
Council
shall
also
be
consistent
with
the
PPS,
which
is
the
provincial
land
use
policy.
S
S
First
of
all,
there's
only
29
sweets,
correct,
there's
only
32
parking
spaces
for
that
building.
The
other
townhouses
has
to
use
parking
which
is
going
to
be
in
the
main
underground
garage.
Well,
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
then
people
will
park
everywhere.
We
have
that
problem
now.
I
know:
I
travel,
Marklin,
Drive,
I
ride
my
bike
along
Marklin
Drive
I
try
to
stay
off
of
it
now
because
there's
too
many
cars
when
you
go
south,
the
Bloor
hazardous
place
to
be
unless
you're
in
your
own
vehicle,
getting
away
from
it.
S
I
would
like
to
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
the
council
consider
the
fact
that
this
new
land
proposal
prevented
presented
by
the
province,
which
we
are
compelled
to
follow,
that
it
it
spends
more
verbage
in
explaining
community
and
I,
can't
ask
you
any
more,
then
please
follow
it
and
see
if
we
can
correct
the
situation
and
lower
a
little
bit
of
the
density.
Thank.
B
O
H
Not
going
to
repeat
anything,
that's
already
been
said
tonight,
because
this
is
a
altogether
different
approach.
I've
been
spending
the
last
year,
basically
on
learning
about
the
noise
issue
here
in
Martland,
and
that
has
led
me
to
this
presentation
here
this
evening.
I
draw
your
attention
to
the
Transport
Canada
document
on
land
use
in
the
vicinity
of
airports.
H
H
H
So,
as
you
can
see,
that
circle
is
quite
a
distance
from
30.
So
you
might
ask
why
am
I
here?
Why
am
I
bringing
this
up?
The
problem
is
this
noise
exposure
forecast
was
done,
probably
in
1990
or
1991,
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
doesn't
reflect
the
current
reality
where
we
have
another
runway.
Runway,
33,
L.
H
The
impact
of
noise
on
community
health
and,
according
from
this
report
excerpts
from
the
report,
there
is
increasing
concern
about
the
impacts
of
environmental
noise
on
health,
especially
in
urban
areas.
The
growing
body
of
evidence
in
the
case
of
exposure
to
excessive
environmental
noise
does
not
only
impact
quality
of
life
and
cause
hearing
loss,
but
also
as
other
health
impacts,
such
as
cardiovascular
effects,
cognitive
impacts,
sleep,
the
services
and
mental
health
effects.
H
L
Know
five
s
good
evening:
counselors
staff
and
attendees
I'm
sawing
his
brick
as
a
director
of
the
Marklin
Wood
homeowners
association,
I'm
part
of
the
special
committee
formed
by
the
Association
for
the
purpose
of
analyzing
and
advocating
the
interests
of
our
community
while
keeping
the
mind
the
rights
of
the
property
owner
to
design
and
build
a
suitable
housing
structure
in
the
neighborhood
I
live
at
83
Mill
Road
to
validate
the
community's
interests.
Two
surveys
were
completed
by
our
association,
one
in
2014
and
the
most
recent
one.
L
Last
summer
in
June,
July
2017
in
the
2014
survey
submitted
by
705
märklin
residents,
a
94
percent
majority
indicated
opposition
to
the
proposed
height
81
percent,
agreed
to
the
lack
of
respect
of
existing
zoning
limits
and
95
percent
of
the
respondents
were
concerned
about
the
precedent.
This
would
set
for
future
developments
of
neighboring
infill
apartment
properties.
The
results
are
statistically
significant.
There
are
1300
homes
in
Marklin
Wood,
and
we
had
over
60%
of
the
residents
respond
to
that
survey.
The
2017
survey
area
was
focused
on
the
properties
near
the
building
site.
L
This
was
a
volunteer
based
labor
intensive
door-to-door
canvassing
effort.
There
were
431
signed
letters
delivered
to
the
city
planner
of
the
time,
mr.
Travis
Skelton.
Please
keep
in
mind
of
their
1300
homes
in
the
mark
on
wood
area
and
their
600
homes
close
to
the
building
site.
These
431
responses
are
statistically
valid.
The
content
of
the
letters
recommended
to
mr.
Skelton
that
the
proposed
height
should
not
exceed
the
existing
height
of
the
apartment.
L
The
Planning
Department
was
tasked
at
that
time
to
write
a
document
titled
request
for
direction
which
was
tabled
on
the
city
website
two
weeks
ago,
which
is
the
matter
under
consideration
tonight.
A
request
that
we
made
to
mr.
Skelton
the
planter
at
the
time
of
our
January
2018
meeting,
was
to
acknowledge
his
receipt
of
the
431
survey.
Letters
delivered
him
personally
in
June
July
2017.
L
This
he
agreed
to
do
for
us
in
the
documentary
undertook
to
write,
for
whatever
reason
these
431
Community
Survey
letters
are
not
referenced.
In
the
request
for
Direction
report,
we
as
an
association
think
it's
important
for
us
to
make
reference
to
this
tonight.
Copies
of
the
survey.
Letters
are
on
file
with
councilor
holidays
office.
As
we
came
closer
to
the
meeting
date
of
June
the
6th,
we
made
our
concerns
known
to
the
Etobicoke
York
Community
Council,
about
this
rezoning
proposal.
L
Councillor
creep
prasad
'is
not
here,
but
he
was
here
a
few
minutes.
Kohli
we
met
with
him
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
met
with
councilor
Ford
three
weeks
ago,
councillor
Campbell,
we
met
with
you
last
year
at
City
Hall
in
the
hallway,
and
we
appreciate
Elizabeth.
You
know
updating
you
on
the
status
of
this
report
and
appreciate
your
consideration.
L
Councillor
to
channel
we
managed
to
speak
to
Valerie,
who
sure
relate
our
concerns
to
you
on
this
matter.
Councillor
DiGiorgio.
We
appreciate
in
this
catalano's
effort
to
update
you
on
the
situation
for
this
application
councillor
to
sit
we'd
like
to
thank
your
staff
member
charlotte
for
bringing
this
to
your
attention.
We
knew
that
your
schedule
was
full
and
we
understand
completely
councillor
Grimes.
L
We
appreciate
her
staff
member
Kim
Edgar's
efforts
to
bring
this
matter
to
your
attention
and
we
also
reached
out
to
councillors
family
Dene,
Louisiana
and
Palacio
to
update
them
on
the
status
of
this
application
councillor
holiday.
Thank
you
for
being
available
to
our
community
to
hear
the
voices
of
our
concerns
on
this
project
since
you're
elected
in
2014.
We
were
very
pleased
to
hear
and
to
know
that,
after
hearing
all
we
had
to
say
in
our
initial
meetings
that
you
would
not
approve
of
any
structure
exceeding
even
one
inch
over
the
existing
apartment
building.
L
Finally
Marklin
wood,
we
are
ready
to
welcome
a
new
neighbor
to
the
community.
We
sincerely
expect
that
our
new
neighbor
will
have
designed
a
new
structure
that
will
satisfy
the
expectations
of
the
community.
We
therefore
respectfully
ask
all
the
councillors
assembled
tonight
to
consider
the
important
survey
data
presented
to
the
Planning
Department
last
summer
and
let
you
vote
in
support
of
an
amended
staff
report
tonight.
Thank
you.
B
E
O
O
This
could
have
all
been
over
by
that
I
mean
I
and
several
other
members
of
the
community
met
with
two
planning
staff
members
a
year
and
a
half
ago
suggested
the
two
amendments.
If
I
can
use
that
phrase
that
miss
Velasquez,
our
president
has
put
forward
a
motion
to
you
at
that
meeting.
We
were
assured
by
both
planners
that
those
requests
for
amendments
were
fair
and
reasonable.
We
met
six
weeks
later,
the
reasons
unknown
to
us.
O
It
was
somewhat
of
an
insult
when
somebody
on
behalf
of
a
developer
said
what
what
do
you
object
to
one
floor
or
more,
for
you
can't
even
see
if
you're
standing
the
sidewalk
that
there's
another
floor
or
there's
HVAC
up
there.
My
response,
what's
wrong
with
one
floor
less
and
we
know
what
motivated
their
decision.
Ours
was
motivated
by
the
desire
to
have
this
development
conformed
with
the
characteristic
of
the
community.
O
Finally,
we
talked
about
precedent
and
you've
heard
more
than
you
need
to
know
already
precedent
and
and
planning
well
many
years
ago,
when
I
did
take
it
a
planning
course
at
law,
school
I.
Remember
that
the
theme
was
it
planners
have
to
plan
for
eight
community
mark
cretins.
Let
her
address
this
issue,
so
we
don't
beat
it
to
death.
The
point
being
I
would
have
expected
planners
to
look
at
the
whole
area,
knowing
the
area
anticipating
what
may
come
forward
instead.
I,
like
mr.
crane
II,
was
shocked
to
learn.
O
Each
application
was
developed
on
a
standalone
basis.
That
was
a
shock
to
me
finally
and
councilor
Campbell.
If
I
can
address
you,
you
asked
one
of
my
fellow
deputies
to.
Why
would
me
concern,
but
one
building
is
30
storeys
and
a
proposed
is
nine
well,
a
simple
fact
is
those
old
floors
were
I
think
10
feet.
The
new
ones
are
probably
13
14,
oh
I
missed
that.
E
N
Welcome
mr.
Neal
Thank
You
counselors
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight,
I'm,
probably
representing
people
who
live
at
2:40,
mark
land
driving
us
I'm
a
resident.
There
I've
been
there
for
20
years
and
we
are
definitely
against
this
construction
of
the
new
buildings.
I
really
want
to
invite
counsel
and
mr.
Halliday
had
come
and
stand
on
the
corner
of
mark
Langevin
board
or
Mill
Road
in
the
morning
between
8:00
and
10:00.
N
80
units
there's
going
to
be
200,
total
tryna
corrode
an
tube
or
two
mark
land
drive
and
two
through
two
entrances
off
the
new
building
proposal.
Now,
if
you
were
to
see
the
full
of
traffic
coming
along
there
in
the
morning
and
there's
just
one
underground
mount
a
240
and
you
have
to
wait
sometimes
10
minutes
to
get
out
of
that
underground.
Now
the
new
building
has
the
same
concept.
One
underground
coming
in,
and
one
drive
we're
going
out,
plus
two
two
little
driveways
going
through
the
existing
building.
N
Wow,
that
is
it's
incredible.
I
can
picture,
can
I
have
managed
it
where
it's
going
to
be
like
with
all
the
additional
traffic
in
the
area
and,
of
course,
the
the
idea
of
infrastructures
been
brought
up.
Many
of
our
meetings
before
and
I,
don't
I
just
can't
see
how
that's
going
to
work,
no
matter
how
many
study
to
you
and,
of
course,
the
big
one
and
I've
heard
it
through
the
for
the
proposal
before
this
particular
arm.
N
N
N
As
we
all
know,
the
owner
applied
to
apply
to
you,
people
applied
the
council,
I
should
say,
but
did
not
get.
Any
answer
was
in
the
standard
120
days.
Okay,
so
the
only
thing
went
to
the
OMB,
of
course,
which
is
now
called
the
Local
Planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
Okay
and
you
got
a
hearing,
I
guess
everybody
I.
N
N
Why
wouldn't
council
available
to
look
at
it
when
he
requested
now
your
decision
here
tonight,
if
it's
a
vote
for
yes,
whatever
you
want
to
amend,
it's
certainly
going
to
influence
OMB,
okay
and
that's
my
worry.
Okay
I
vote
no
ways
but
go
along
way
that
I'm
turning
down
the
project.
That's
all
I,
have
to
say.
B
J
J
I
have
only
recently
been
made
aware
of
the
extent
of
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood
and
I'm
not
prepared
to
be
able
to
address
this,
as
educated
in
a
educated
fashion,
as
my
neighbors
only
to
say
that
I
do
have
some
serious
concerns
about
what's
coming
across
the
street
from
my
house
or
what
is
being
proposed,
because
I
would
hope,
perhaps
that
it
would
not
the
parking
issue
and
I've
only
been
there
for
a
few
months
is
quite
serious.
It's
essentially
a
one
lane
drive
drive
either
way.
J
If
there's
three
ackles
parked
on
both
side
of
the
street.
Someone
has
to
pull
over
in
order
for
the
other
vehicle
to
be
able
to
pass,
and
this
is
already
when
we
don't
have
additional
how
many
hundreds
of
other
people
and
vehicles
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
construction
I
can't.
Even
imagine
you
know
for
four
to
six
years
across
the
street
from
my
house,
with
the
with
a
parking
issue
that
we
already
have.
J
The
traffic
issue,
like
the
analogy
of
feeling
like
rats
stuck
in
our
own
home,
is
pretty
apt,
because
I've
just
stepped
into
this-
and
you
know,
I-
am
already
suffering
from
some
nervous
disorders.
Dealing
with
my
father's
passing
and
the
thought
of
this
coming
down.
The
pipeline
is
extremely
disturbing
to
me,
and
you
know
this
has
been
my
family
home
since
I
was
three
and
yeah
I
actually
did
move
in
about
30-something
years
ago
and
in
all
used
to
play
across
the
street.
J
You
know
and
I
understand,
that's
their
property
and
they
have
a
right
to
do
what
they
would.
But
you
know,
green
space
is
is
is
essential
for
our
mental
health,
our
physical
health.
This
isn't
just
space,
that's
being
unused,
it's
being
it's
there,
because
it
provides
our
neighborhood
with
you
know
it
provides
this,
isn't
Liberty
Village.
This
is
mark
Lynwood
and
that's
what
makes
this
neighborhood
appealing
so
I.
Don't
have
any
concrete
proposals
at
this
moment
other
than
please
don't
go
ahead
with
this
I.
Don't
have
alternative
suggestions.
J
I've
heard
my
neighbors
suggest
a
further
setback
having
single
single-family
townhomes
rather
than
units
I,
think
those
are
also
good
suggestions.
Preferable
suggestions,
however,
I'm
against
the
proposal
completely
and
so
I
would
call
crest
respectfully
that
she
would
vote.
No.
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
You
if
I
may
ask
a
question
of
planning
and
it's
going
to
be
a
general
question.
I
think
I'll
lead
into
it
just
as
you're
coming
to
the
podium,
but
we
have
heard
from
a
number
of
residents
that
live
on
the
Sun,
Sun
Plains
and
broad
field,
which
are
the
the
residential
streets
on
the
internal
side
of
the
building,
who
are
impacted
by
the
occulting,
the
low-rise
proposals,
but
wondering
if
you
could
just
describe
what
is
before
us
and
the
degree
of
control
which
we
have
with
the
proposal
before
us.
E
With
respect
to
those
buildings,
the
setbacks,
the
look
the
feel
and
if
you
think
back
to
some
of
the
earlier
comments
about
you
know
what
goes
on
the
balconies.
What
doesn't?
What
is
the
look
of
those
you
know,
a
traditional
sort
of
townhouse
versus
something
that's
more
like
an
apartment,
look
and-
and
maybe
just
a
further
make
a
point,
and
we
have
a
zoning
proposal
before
us
and
we
don't
have
a
site
plan
before
us
and
what's
different.
F
M
M
So
through
the
chairs,
the,
as
you
note
councillor,
the
application
that
that
community
council
has
before
is
for
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment,
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
is
a
request
to
set
out
parameters
for
development
for
a
site.
So,
for
instance,
as
you
noted,
to
start
out
the
what
setbacks
are
required.
If
a
building
is
a
step,
how
high
it
goes
in
certain
areas.
What
the
overall
hate
is
those
sorts
of
things,
the
actual
design
of
the
site.
M
We
try
and
flush
it
through
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
by
design
I
mean
the
look
of
the
building.
What
the
cladding
is
going
to
look
like
how
the
balconies
are
going
to
look.
What
color
are.
The
bricks
is
a
brick
versus
other
types
of
cladding
that
sorts
of
thing
those
matters
are
all
dealt
with
through
the
site
plan.
Approval
process,
and
that's
something
that
would
follow
along
and
not
be
dealt
with.
M
Sometimes
I
saw
was
at
the
same
time,
but
it
wouldn't
come
to
community
council
necessarily,
it
would
be
dealt
with
it's
a
delegated
process
that
would
be
dealt
with
by
staff,
but
it
looks
at
landscaping
and
they
how
the
building
looks
and
feels
from
a
design
perspective.
So
in
terms
of
what's
before,
Community
Council,
now
as
I
note
that
the
it's
the
setbacks
and
step
backs
and
the
height
and
basically
the
envelope
within
which
you
could
build.
E
M
M
Sometimes
some
counselors
have
working
groups
through
the
site
plan
process
to
try
and
get
feedback
as
well.
There's
opportunities
to
have
people
come
in
and
take
a
look
at
the
plans
and
provide
us
comments
individually
as
well,
because
they
are
posted
mine.
It's
not
a
public
process
like
this
one
is,
but
we're
always
open
to
have
comments
and
feedback,
but.
E
J
E
M
Looks
like
from
the
history
on
this
file
that
there
were
a
number
of
iterations
and
design
changes
in
discussions
with
the
applicant
and
the
community
and
the
planning
staff,
the
staff
that
was
involved
through
the
previews
of
the
application
at
the
time.
So
we
don't
usually
bring
it
to
community
council
until
we
have
an
application
in
a
form
and
a
shape
that
we
are
able
to
support
it
unless
we
have
to
go
to
what
is
now
the
L
pad,
formerly
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board,
and
have
to
make
some
recommendations.
Thank.
C
Question
so
in
any
and
it's
this
is
a
question
for
me
before
you
leave
for
mr.
kressler,
but
in
a
neighborhood
of
single-family
homes,
or
you
have
just
local
roads.
Why?
Why
does
Planning
find
it
acceptable
to
have
stacked
townhouses
rather
than
single
dwelling
townhouses,
where
you
walk
in
the
front
door,
and
you
know
three
levels,
all
right,
I
didn't
I
did
I
didn't,
do
it
I
didn't
do
it
for
applause
I
mean
it
really
is
I
mean
it?
C
No,
no
I
really
am
in
it
because
it
just
seemed
it
seems
like
it
doesn't
really
fit
the
character
of
a
neighborhood.
We
have
single-family
homes
and-
and-
and
you
know
the
single
you
know,
single
dwelling
townhomes
are
much
more
appealable.
They
sell
more
or
for
more
money.
Is
there
just
space
they
fit
the
knavery
better?
Well,.
T
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
councillor
Campbell
through
the
chair
is
sort
of
a
broad
brush
statement
and
I.
Don't
think
it
applies
in
every
location
throughout
the
city,
which
is
why
we
look
at
these
things
within
their
individual
context.
The
Official
Plan
speaks
to
the
neighborhood's
being
up
to
four
storeys
in
height
buildings
of
townhouses
and
apartment
buildings,
of
being
up
to
four
storeys
in
height,
so
the
Official
Plan
does
contemplate
a
height
of
four
storeys
in
the
neighborhoods
in
this
instance.
T
What
you
have
is
it
isn't
a
standard
or
isn't
a
solely
single
family
community.
You
do
have
high-rise
apartment
buildings.
You
do
have
single-family
dwellings
on
the
south
side
of
some
Plains.
You
do
have
the
townhouse
complex,
which
is
immediately
to
the
east
of
240
Markley.
So
there
is
a
diversity
of
built
form
in
the
community,
so
you
can
speak
that
you
can
look
to
the
city
of
social
plan.
It
also
speaks
of
providing
for
a
diversity
of
housing,
stock
and
different
types
of
dwellings,
so
in
terms
of
built
form
impacts
in
a
neighborhood.
T
When
we're
looking
at
those
kinds
of
things,
it's
it's
about
height.
It's
about
shadowing
it's
about
Overlook,
it's
about
densities,
about
all
of
those
kinds
of
things.
So
if
there
is
dwelling
stock
in
a
neighborhood,
it
is
a
diverse
and
range
of
housing.
Then
we
would
say
you
do
not
need
an
official
plan
amendment
to
introduce
a
type
of
housing
that
may
not
exist
in
that
community.
T
In
this
instance,
the
the
the
stacked
townhouses,
for
example,
don't
exist
in
this
community,
but
there's
a
diverse
housing
stock
that
there's,
if
you
would
to
put
this
in
I,
don't
know
five
blocks
to
the
south.
Where
you
have
a
standard,
single-family
community,
then
you
would
say
it
doesn't
fit
the
character
of
the
community.
You
do
need
an
official
plan
amendment
to
introduce
that.
T
C
But
we
do
offer
opinion
on
built
form
in
the
Official
Plan
and
or
in
our
in
our
not
official
plan.
But
you
know
in
our
and
some
of
our
planning
documents
we
talk
about
built,
form
and
suit
built
form
for
particular
parts
of
the
city
and
so
but
we're
sort
of
silent
on
that
in
in
neighborhoods,
where
there's
single-family
homes
that
no.
T
Again
councillor
what
I'm
trying
to
say
it's,
it's
about
the
the
nuances
of
individual
communities
and
the
characters
of
individual
communities.
I
mean
the
discussion
previously
today
and
councillor
do
sets
apartment
neighborhood.
If
you
looked
at
the
built
form
of
that
apartment,
neighborhood
its
substantive
ly
different
than
the
built
form
of
the
apartment,
neighborhoods
that
some
of
the
residents
of
for
talk
about
site
like
Liberty,
Village,
different
kind
of
context
at
its
very
high
level,
it's
an
intense
apartment
neighborhood.
T
But
when
you
get
the
drought
drill
down
into
the
details,
there
is
levels
of
differences
and
characteristics
that
emerge
when
you
look
at
them
so
again,
using
a
very
broad
brush
approach.
That
says
we
don't
like
staff
townhouses,
because
there's
none
of
them
that
exist
in
this
community.
It
doesn't
really
fit
the
parameters
of
what
the
official
plan
is
talking
to
in
terms
of
diverse
building
stock.
Thank
you
thanks.
Man
thank.
H
Just
a
couple
of
quick
questions
because
of
the
largely
due
to
my
own
familiarity
with
with
the
zoning
that
exists
in
Tobago,
but
notwithstanding
that
this
is
an
apartment,
neighborhood
and
I
noticed
the
coverage
is
27%.
What's
the
normal
coverage
in
the
zoning
bylaw
in
North
York,
a
story
in
in
Etobicoke.
M
M
Through
the
chair,
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
zoning,
the
particular
zoning
parameters
in
that
kind
of
detail-
I'm,
sorry
I
just
don't
have
that
background.
On
this
file
there
was
some
commercial
that
was
originally
proposed
in
this
application.
It's
been
since
it
has
since
been
removed.
So
there's
no
commercial.
Let.
T
T
At
a
general
level,
we
we
have
had
conversations
with
the
applicant.
The
the
desires
of
the
community
to
bring
the
building
down
by
one
floor
are
well
known.
We
did
talk
to
the
applicant
about
it,
and
the
applicant
said
we're
not
prepared
to
do
that.
So
the
applicant
filed
an
appeal
of
the
development
proposals
that
they
had
before
us.
That
goes
back
to
last
summer,
and
that's
what
we
responded
to
when
our
staff
report
all.
B
E
Thank
You
Tara,
Grimes
I,
do
have
a
number
of
motions
and
if
I
may
ask
the
madam
clerk
to
put
the
first
1,
1,
8
and
I'm,
going
to
just
I'm,
going
to
do
my
best
to
go
through
these
and
explain
what
they
are
and
offer
some
comment
and
please
go
ahead
and
put
the
image
up.
Well,
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment.
So
the
first
one
is
a
technical
amendment.
E
What
we
know
is
that
the
site
plan
that
is
shown
in
the
report
is
a
dated
version
and
we
just
want
to
have
the
most
current
site
plan
appended
to
this
report.
So
this
is
technical
in
nature
and
the
staff
helped
me
prepare
that
it's
important
because
motion
1b,
if
I
may
have
that
States
the
City
Council
we're
going
to
recommend
that
City
Council
refused
this
application.
E
1C
is
similar
to
a
motion
which
I
presented
at
the
the
last
file
that
we
considered,
which
is
to
remove
the
eligibility
of
the
residence
at
2:40
marking
drive
from
applying
under
Chapter
925
for
permit
parking
on
Street
and
I
will
make
the
comment
that
this
has
been
a
common
thread
through
the
entire
discussion,
with
the
mark,
Lynwood
homeowners
association
and
a
number
of
residents
that
I've
been
working
with
on
an
independent
basis
to
deal
with
the
parking
issues
that
are
going
on
in
this
area.
I
think
a
lot
of
things
are
happening.
E
I
think
there
are
visitors
to
the
apartment
buildings
I
think
there
are
residents
of
apartment
buildings
that
have
opted
not
to
rent
a
space
for
some
reason
and
park
their
car
on
the
road.
The
law
says
right
now:
the
parking
limit
is
three
hours
and
I
think
most
people
get
that
in
central
Etobicoke
and
I
mentioned
it
before
it.
I'll
mention
it
again,
if
you
close
my
eyes
and
pluck
me
off
the
street
that
I
live
on
in
the
ward
and
you
drop
me
and
mark
Lynwood
I
feel
right
at
home.
E
It's
just
like
the
street
that
I
live
on
many
of
the
streets
there
and
I
understand
the
pride
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
what
I
do
understand
is
on
street
parking
changes
than
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
urban
eise's.
It
and
I
think
that's
an
important
discussion.
We
should
have
in
central
Etobicoke,
it's
not
so
much
about
development
and
change,
but
it's
about
how
fast,
how
rapid,
how
big
and
how
fast
are
we
becoming
light
to
downtown
I?
Think
my
preference
in
most
others
feel
it
shouldn't
be
that
fast.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
is
keep
an
eye
on
parking
and
the
creation
of
on
street
parking.
So
this
motion
will
help
protect
that
it
doesn't.
It
is
among
a
series
of
things
that
we
will
do
to
help
protect
that
the
next
motion
is
1d,
and
that
is
some
additional
content
to
the
requirements
of
this
report,
and
this
process
and
I'm
asked
for
a
number
of
plans.
E
A
construction
management
plan
be
dedicated,
I'd
like
to
see
a
construction
mitigation
plan,
so
that
starts
to
deal
with
the
things
that
the
residents
have
brought
off
of
it.
You
know
how
we
gonna
manage
this
over
the
next
number
of
years
and
I'll
say
the
same
thing.
I
said
to
the
residents
on
Dix
field.
You
know
the
counselor's
office
is
here
to
help
deal
with.
E
This
I
want
to
see
very
specifically
in
this
motion,
a
parking
management
plan
for
the
construction
and
there
isn't
any
magic
solution
to
that,
but
I
think
there's
a
process
that
needs
to
be
gone
through
with
myself
in
the
community
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
make
this
work.
And
finally,
a
communication
plan.
E
It
sets
out
a
lot
of
the
rules
around
construction
sets
out
the
processes
and
how
to
deal
with
things
anything
through
trees
to
ground
water,
to
noise,
to
dust
to
parking
to
construction
and
road
allowance.
All
those
sorts
of
things
and
I
want
to
bring
awareness
to
this
and
I
want
to
signal
that
you
know
these
things
are
important
to
the
community
they're
important
to
me
and
there's
a
process
to
manage
this
going
forward.
I
think
I'll
round
this
out.
E
F
E
The
discussion
tonight
we
talked
a
lot
about
detail
on
the
street
with
the
the
low-rise
buildings,
but
I
also
just
want
to
back
up
and
think
about
the
themes
of
time
space.
They
come
up
in
many
plans
and
development
applications
we're
at
the
here
and
now
we're
talking
about
it
today.
We're
talking
about
a
nine
story.
Building
you
know.
What's
the
big
deal,
it's
next
to
another
building,
it's
close
in
height,
you
know
back
up
for
a
moment
and
zoom
out,
so
there's
the
space,
the
the
right
building
there
is
240
Markland,
there's
another
building.
E
You
see
immediately
across
the
street.
You
see
another
one
immediately
to
the
north
and
you
see
a
massive
parking
lot
at
the
golf
course
there's
the
space
that
I
need
to
put
my
head
into
not
the
little
site
plan
around
here.
It's
actually
the
block
around
that
this
project
is
going
to
influence
and
I,
fully
respect
the
opinions
of
lawyers,
and
you
know
that
in
law
there
aren't
necessarily
precedents
and
that
in
planning
there
are
necessary
precedents.
E
The
the
other
factor
is
the
time.
It's
not
about
the
time
about
one.
This
one
particular
decision
that
we're
making,
but
it's
the
ones
that
we're
going
to
see
over
ten
years
and
the
changes
that
we're
going
to
see
that
we
see
all
over
the
city
over
the
next
ten
years.
And
what
is
this
neighborhood
going
to
look
like
my
preference
is
the
neighborhood
that
we
all
hope
and
desire,
not
necessarily
overly
urbanized
one,
although
we
do
recognize
there
is
change
so
to
my
colleagues
in
utility
or
community
council.
E
That
can
be
backed
up
with
the
countless
meetings
that
I've
had
with
the
residents
Association
in
individuals
and
the
entire
theater
at
Silverthorne
collegiate
that
was
packed
full
of
people
with
concern
over
this
development.
So
I
hope
you
support
my
motions.
I
know
the
residents.
Association
is
completely
behind
this
and
ready
to
engage
in
in
finding
a
solution
on
this
matter
and
really
that's
what
it
is.
Another
fight,
it's
finding
a
solution
on
the
matter.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
You
deputy
mayor
holiday,
see
no
further
speakers
I
think
you've
five
motions
on
correct.
We
take
them
as
a
package
as
a
package,
all
in
favor
of
the
five
motions
that
captain
Raleigh
opposed.
That's
unanimous
carries
Clause
minute
on
favor
opposed
carried
councillor
holiday.
You
have
a
motion
to
interact
and
introduce
an
intact
confirming
bill.