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Executive Committee, meeting 27, September 26, 2017 - Part 3 of 3
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http://app.toronto.ca/tmmis/decisionBodyProfile.do?function=doPrepare&meetingId=11829
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0okQT_iWCrQ#t=8m1s
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hAZk4cUGc
A
B
If
I'm
correct
there,
there
was
a
major
official
plan,
amendment
that
took
all
the
cities,
lands
from
Sheppard
Avenue
right
down
to
all
the
lands
in
between
the
Allen
roads
and
Wilson
Heights
Boulevard
and
if
I'm,
correct
and
maybe
mr.
Livy
might
know
the
answer
to
this.
But
am
I
not
correct
that
this
is
part
of
it.
It's
been
through
public
meetings,
public
consultations
to
reuse
of
the
land
designated
for
office
use
and
all
that
I.
B
Libby
says
he:
would
you
know
of
sorry
that
you're
just
jumping
into
this
mr.
Libby?
What
we're
talking
about
the
parking
lot
on
Sheppard
Avenue
near
the
subway
station
and
I,
was
just
asking
if
I'm
correct
in
assuming
that
that
lot
was
part
of
the
comprehensive
official
plan
amendments
for
the
lands
up
in
that
area.
I.
F
Thank
You
mr.
deputy
mayor
I,
do
have
a
few
motions
if
we
put
them
on
the
screen,
I
think
in
context,
it's
important
to
realize
that
most
of
the
decisions
regarding
communal
parking
were
made
in
2009
and
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
say
that
most
of
the
people
in
this
room
were
either
not
here
at
the
city
at
all
or
were
in
a
different
capacity
and
therefore
can't
speak
directly
to
decisions
made
at
that
time.
F
But
those
were
the
decisions
made
at
a
time,
but
times
have
changed
and
our
whole
commuter
and
transit
network
has
changed.
Congestion
has
changed,
the
population
has
changed
so
it's
time
for
a
sober.
Second,
look
to
what
was
done
back
in
2009
when
when
clearly
there
was
a
different
view
of
the
inner
suburbs
and
the
necessity
for
people
to
go
from
their
homes
to
drop
their
kids
off
at
school
and
then
to
potentially
drop
a
spouse
off
at
work
and
go
to
commuter
parking
lot.
F
F
There
is
a
trend
or
a
feeling
that
we're
replacing
almost
all
the
spots
that
are
being
shrunken
at
the
Wilson
station
at
the
Sheppard
West
Station,
formerly
Downsview
station.
But
when
you
look
at
where
those
spots
are
being
placed,
it
is
way
up
the
grid.
It
is
up
at
Finch,
it
steals
Vaughan
people
who
live
in
around
Wilson,
Avenue
or
Sheppard,
not
gonna,
drive
up
to
Finch
or
Steel's
or
Vaughn
to
park
and
then
take
the
subway
down.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
that's
the
last
thing
we
want
them
to
do.
F
We
don't
want
them
driving
long
distances
with
their
cars,
congesting
Allen,
Road,
Dufferin,
Wilson
Heights.
We
want
them
to
drive
within
the
community
to
have
the
convenience
of
leaving
their
car
at
a
commuter
parking
lot
at
a
reasonable
price
and
then
coming
downtown
I
am
proposing
that
we
set
up
an
advisory
body
to
have
a
sober.
F
Second,
look
at
the
decisions
that
were
made
in
2009
and
at
that
time
there
was
a
bit
of
an
animosity
towards
the
car
and
I
think
it's
time
to
revisit
this
issue
and
show
respect
for
the
the
inner
suburban
commuters
at
the
same
time,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
work
with
Canada
lands
at
the
Downsview
Park
station
for
those
who
are
not
familiar
of
it
with
it.
That
is
a
brand
new
station
that
will
be
opening
at
the
end
of
the
year.
F
At
the
corner
of
Sheppard
and
chess
wood,
it
intersects
a
new
go
station,
it
will
be
a
major
transit
hub
and
for
some
reason
there
are
zero
commuter
parking
at
that
spot.
At
the
same
time,
because
of
the
questions
raised
about
the
Sheppard
West
Station
commuter
parking
lot,
it's
important
to
defer
indefinitely
any
decision
to
close
it.
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
that
we
want
people
to
feel
comfortable
in
their
own
neighborhoods.
F
We
want
people
to
continue
with
the
lifestyles
that
they
enjoy,
but
we
also
want
people
to
find
a
compromise
with
their
car
to
drive
it
within
the
local
communities
to
be
able
to
leave
it
at
a
transit
spot
to
leave
the
kids
drop,
the
kids
off
at
school
and
then
a
drop
of
spouse
off
at
work
and
then
come
downtown
on
the
subway.
That's
exactly
what
we
want.
These
are
our
most
loyal
customers,
and
these
are
the
ones
that
should
be
treated
with
respect,
so
we're
just
taking
a
sober.
F
B
The
studies
have
always
shown
that
two-thirds
of
the
cars
that
are
parking
in
these
Lots
are
from
905
outside
of
Toronto.
That's
been
the
consistent
research,
that's
been
told
to
us
and
when
the
subway
extension
opens
up
to
9:05
they'll
be
a
lot
more
people
in
the
line,
and
hopefully
there
won't
be
coming
down.
I
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
need
to
have
some
local
parking
for
people
in
the
area
that
might
want
to
go
to
the
subway.
However,
I've
got
three
stops
within
my
community.
We've
got
a
very
few
spaces.
B
B
This
particular
land
has
already
been
identified
for
transferred
to
Bill
Toronto,
but
it
means
a
lot
more
than
that.
Over
the
last
many
years
there
has
been
an
ongoing
official
plan
review
of
the
lands
over
there
and
there's
a
comprehensive
plan
that
is
now
in
place
to
redevelop
these
properties.
Much
as
both
the
office
and
housing
and
I
expect
a
fair
amount
of
it
will
be
affordable,
housing
that
can
go
onto
the
site.
Now.
B
I
would
imagine
that,
from
a
perspective
of
representing
the
community,
it's
better
to
have
a
couple
of
hundred
cars
coming
in
this
four
or
five
hundred
cars
may
come
in
a
day
in
the
morning,
leave
in
the
night
and
have
a
development
there,
because
you
have
more
cars
from
it
and
it's
more
of
an
impact.
But
if
you
take
away
the
lands
that
are
next
to
Sheppard
Avenue
and
the
Allen
Road,
how
are
you
gonna
develop
the
rest
of
the
lands?
If
you
leave
the
parking
lot
there,
it's
not
gonna
happen.
B
There
are
our
opportunities,
however,
on
some
of
the
other
lands,
the
west
side
of
the
Allen
Road
working
with
Downsview,
Park
or
another
area
that
we
have
an
explorer
to
be
working
with
Bombardier
on
their
lands
along
Wilson
Avenue.
Because,
although
you
can't
build
on
them,
you
might
be
able
to
put
parking
on
them
for
the
strippers
and
I
think
those
are
reasonable
ways
to
work
at
it.
B
But
I
don't
think
you
want
to
start
to
rewrite
the
playbook
as
to
what
you
were
gonna
do
with
these
lands
and
take
the
major
part
where
the
office
developments
supposed
to
be,
which
are
these
lands
here
and
part
of
the
Official
Plan
amendment
that's
in
place
and
the
only
reason
the
lands
have
been
held
up.
So
long
is
the
issue
that
had
to
be
resolved
between
bomb
barges
right
on
an
old,
east-west
airstrip
that
was
in
place
and
I
believe
that's
been
recently
or
close
to
being
resolved,
so
lands
can
actually
be
developed.
B
So
what
I
would
say
is
that
I
cannot
support
my
colleagues
amendments
I
would
move
the
staff
recommendations
in
the
reports.
I
would
receive
this,
but
I
also
think
that
we
can
continue
to
work
still
between
the
new
Toronto
Realty
Corporation,
the
local
councillor
and
some
of
the
lands
in
the
area
to
try
and
find
some
appropriate
places
for
parking
there,
because
I
believe
it's
needed,
but
I
also
believe
it's
needed
to
serve
our
Toronto
residents,
not
the
905
residents
and
I.
B
Think
we
can
accomplish
that
once
the
new
line
opens
up
and
I
can
also
tell
you
that
there
are
no
immediate
plans
to
redevelop
any
of
these
lands.
There
there's
no
sale,
there's
no
purchaser,
there's
no
approved
plan
going
forward,
so
it
will
be
a
while
until
something
actually
happens
on
this
particular
parking
lot.
So
I
would
suggest
the
most
appropriate
action
is
to
support
the
staff
recommendation
and
not
my
colleagues.
G
G
For
one
six,
you
know
I
mean
I,
know
they're,
customers
of
the
subway,
so
I
guess
it's
in
a
way,
it's
even
worst
as
we're
subsidizing
them
with
no
return
back
from
the
provincial
government
for
their
ride
on
the
subway,
but
better.
They
should
take
the
subway
from
somewhere,
then
to
drive
downtown.
But
you
know
this
was
part
of
what
the
road
tools
discussion
was
about.
G
You
know
it
did
was
about
the
cost
of
roads
and
the
cost
of
a
lot
of
things
that
they
don't
contribute
to
from
the
905,
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
ask
staff
to
do
that
and-
and
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
results
are.
Gonna
be,
but
I'm
willing
to
lay
a
bet.
They're
gonna
be
exactly
the
same
as
before,
which
is
there's
a
significant
majority
of
those
cars
are
from
905
and
I.
G
Just
don't
think
we
can
continue,
especially
when
we
have
other
uses
that
have
been
identified
for
those
lands
that
to
provide
parking
for
people
from
905.
You
know,
and
especially
now,
I
guess
when
the
subway
actually
goes
tonight
of
the
very
subway
we're
talking
about.
Then
there's
an
opportunity
if
they
want
to
still
ride
the
subway
to
get
on
further
up.
G
So
that's
what
I'm
just
proposing
is
that
there
be
and
I
think
the
one
in
discussion
in
this
particular
item
is
chef's
request
and
they
tell
me
the
staff
too,
that
they
can
get
that
done
in
pretty
short
order,
and
then
we
can
have
those
results
reported
back
here.
Fyi,
but
I
can't
see
no
reason
why
those
commuter
patterns
will
have
changed
in
their
reading
period,
but
maybe
it
will
be
satisfactory
in
the
context
of
this
debate
to
at
least
see
that
that's
the
case,
so
I
would
vote
I'll.
Be
voting
against
that.
G
B
I
guess
through
you,
mr.
mayor
to
the
clerk
no
disrespect,
the
recommendation
was
to
receive
if
we
adopt
that
this
report
is
gone.
Yours
is
a
good
recommendation
to
get
a
survey
I'm
trying
to
follow
up
I
guess
of
what
the
question
is.
Is
it
to
defer
to
get
a
survey
or
do
we
have
to
introduce
that
as
a
separate
item
to
get
that
report
in
because
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
I'll
be
voting
on
if.
G
Hadn't
thought
of
that
you
know
I'm,
quite
frankly,
I'm
prepared
to
withdraw
it
and
maybe
just
ask
staff
to
do
the
survey.
You
know
that
because
I'm
sure,
if
we
just
ask
they
would
do
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
us
bogged
down
in
extending
the
meeting,
but
I
just
thought
it
would
be
useful
to
get
the
data
cuz
I
think
it
will
help
us
with
future
discussions
of
this
kind
to
say:
look
we
keep
looking
and
we
keep
looking
and
we
keep
looking
I'm
fine.
B
C
C
C
H
I,
just
I
I
had
some
concerns,
but
I
think,
especially
with
the
the
map
that
I
saw
here.
There
was
a
mislabeling.
The
Shepherd
West
station
is
actually
the
Downsview
Park
station
and
the
415
William
R
Allen
row
is
actually
the
Sheppard
West
lot
and
there
are
at
the
Shepherd
West
law
632
spots
that
are
going
to
be
closing
in
2029
I.
Think
that's
what
you!
Your
motion
was
mr.
H
mayor
to
look
at
that
particular
lot
with
respect
to
whatever
car
using
that
and
whether
they're
originating
from
further
north
I
think
there
is
the
opportunity
from
the
report
that
I
read
for
shared
parking
to
occur
at
Downsview
Park,
which
is
really
just
across
the
street
from
chess
wood.
I
can't
imagine
someone
driving
to
that
particular
area
not
having
any
place
to
park,
unless
you
think
they're
gonna
park
in
that
that,
but
anyway,
so
I
had
some
concerns.
C
I'm
just
speak
very
very
briefly,
so:
firstly,
one
I
want
to
talk
about
the
process,
and
then
anyone
talked
about
the
decision.
So
in
terms
of
the
process,
it
strikes
me
as
really
very
hard
that
when
we
have
stakeholder
implications,
the
one
group
that
we
don't
ask
as
a
residence-
something
is
wrong
with
this
picture,
when
we
ask
all
the
internal
departments:
TTC
Bill
Toronto
Canada
lands,
TPA
cycle
Toronto
and
walk
tÃo.
C
What
they
think
about
doing
this
and
the
one
they're
two
people
we
don't
ask
one-
is
the
people
who
use
the
lot
and
the
second
residence
and
many
cases
there's
overlap
so
I.
Think,
fundamentally,
we
I
fundamentally
in
this
arrangement
we
got
it
wrong
and
I
can
completely
understand
the
deputy
coming
here
coming
down
to
City
Hall
sitting
here
all
day
expressing
his
concerns,
so
I
think
those
are
valid.
C
Second
pieces,
though,
however,
we
have
to
go
to
you
know
the
information
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
and
the
information
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
is
two-thirds
of
the
people
use.
The
law
are
not
from
the
local
area
and
I.
You
know
we're
gonna
get
an
update
from
we're.
Gonna
get
these
counts,
updated,
which
I
think
is
a
great
idea.
But
fundamentally
the
vast
majority
of
law
of
the
law
is
not
used
by
the
people
that
live
in
the
area.
Only
one-third
of
that
law.
C
It
is
so
I,
think
I,
think
the
decisions
right
I'm
happy
to
support
the
recommendations,
but
I
think
the
process
we
got
it
wrong.
I
mean
you
know:
you're
asking
walk,
TO,
WEAR
they're
not
going
to
be
using
the
parking
lot.
I
mean
I,
don't
even
know
why
you
would
ask
Watty.
Oh
when
they're
not
gonna,
not
draw
they
don't
you
know
not
gonna
drive.
Why
are
we
gonna
actually
cycle
tÃo
about
what
they
would
like
with
a
parking
lot
when
you
know
they're,
they
are
vastly
opposed
to
cars.
C
I
mean
the
no
no
I'm
saying
and
I'm
reading
the
report
right.
We
failed
to
ask
the
very
people
that
are
impacted
by
this
and
I.
Think
that's
where,
with
the
way,
this
thing
went
wrong,
but
I
am
gonna
support,
because
the
data
suggests
that
it
actually
is
not
being
used
by
only
one-third.
So
we
have
motions,
did
you
want
to
put
them
up
in
the
order
that
you
see
fit.
C
C
The
city
that
City
Council
requests
the
city
manager
to
report
to
Executive
Committee
at
its
meeting
on
November
29th
on
the
discussions
with
the
can
Alliance
corporation
in
the
Toronto
parking
authority
regarding
a
shared
use,
opportunity
at
the
down
zulan
subway
and
GO
train
train
stations
of
the
Downsview
Park
Merchants
market
and
farmers
market
parking
lot,
including
the
option
of
elevated,
robotic
parking
systems.
All
those
in
favor
of
that
motion.
C
The
that
City
Council
request
the
boards
of
the
Toronto
Transit
Commission
and
bill
trying
to
delay
indefinitely
the
closure
of
the
Sheppard
West
Station
commuter
parking
lot,
all
those
in
favor
of
that
motion.
All
those
opposed
that
fails
item
as
amended.
That's
it
we're
done
councillor
Ainsley
said
he'd
be
prepared
to
release
item
number
23.
Yes,.
C
Item
27
least
a
couple
budget.
So
what's
that
motion
move
the
recommendations,
all
those
in
favor
suppose
that's
carried
item
15
I
think
we
have
one
deputy
incorrect.
Oh,
that
is
creating
600,
affordable
housing,
affordable
rental
housing
at
the
West
Don
lands
in
27,
Grosvenor,
26
Granville
site,
and
that
is
catherine
holden.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
being
so
patient.
J
One,
the
one
that
is
most
relevant
to
this
particular
property
is
the
exist
that
the
definition
of
a
pedestrian
green
loop
in
the
teal
core
area
that
actually
straddles
our
community
and
the
one
on
the
other
side
of
Yonge
Street.
This
particular
paper
on
the
screen
is
showing
the
green
space
in
teal
core
the
sort
of
green
ring.
They
call
it
around
downtown
I
found
it
it
in
Sultan,
because
they're
calling
the
Don
Valley
Parkway.
J
The
Toronto
Islands,
which
are
not
accessible
except
by
ferry,
garrison
Creek,
which
is
underground
and
the
railway
lands
to
the
north
as
their
green
loop,
and
at
that
Park
meeting
forty
oak
or
it
occurred
to
me
that
we
had
equally
valid
space
in
our
community
on
a
much
smaller
basis
that
we
could
make
our
own
little
green
loop.
That
might
be
more
valid
for
the
people
that
actually
live
in
our
community.
So
we
proposed
that
the
teal
core
committee
thought
that
encouraged
us
to
do
that.
J
It
is
just
cobbling,
together
of
pops,
privately
owned
public
spaces,
little
tiny
parks
that
might
be
1/10
of
an
acre,
the
linear
parks
over
the
subway
system,
a
couple
of
parks
that
we
have
managed
very
through
a
lot
of
struggle
to
get
what
through
developments-
and
there
were
three
outstanding
properties
that
had
land
that
we
needed
to
complete
complete
this
loop.
One
is
the
Courtyard
Marriott
hotel,
which
you
may
know
has
actually
is
unde
under
it's
in
the
application
process.
J
So
in
that's
what
I'm
asking
you
to
consider
today
when
you're
talking
about
affordable
land,
affordable
housing,
we
in
our
community
all
agree
that
we
as
a
city
need
affordable
housing.
We
need
to
really
promote
that
that
kind
of
thinking,
but
we
also
need
to
promote
green
space
downtown
we're,
probably
the
most
green
deficient
part
of
the
city.
J
So
that's
what
I'm
asking
you
today
to
consider
that
the
pre-existing
least
sort
of
lien
on
this
property
be
given
full
attention
and
that,
as
a
ten
meter,
wide
green
space
be
allotted
on
the
west
side
of
this
property
for
the
pedestrian
green
loop?
That
is
part
of
the
Toronto
teok
or
green
parkland.
It's
this
system!
G
Hold
and
thank
you
again,
something
as
the
deputy
mayor
said
for
your
patience
today
and
being
here
all
day
and
thank
you
for
coming
at
a
very
early
stage
of
this
process,
because
I
think
there's
time
for
your
thoughts
to
be
taken
into
account.
I'll
just
see
if
there
are
any
questions
for
you
from
members
of
the
committee
or
members
of
City
Council,
but
I
think
so
in
the
hearing.
None
I
can.
G
Thank
you
very
much
again
for
your
time
and
just
tell
you,
you
came
very
early
in
a
process
that
we're
very
excited
it's
happened.
This
is
very
good
news
for
the
city
that
there's
going
to
be
housing
on
that
land.
The
province
has
made
that
land
available,
and
so
we
hear
what
you're
saying
about
green
space
and
about
some
of
the
particulars,
and
we
have
the
details
of
your
submission,
and
so
thank
you
for
coming
now.
It's
a
good
time
to
come
at
the
beginning.
Yes,.
J
J
G
G
M
M
G
C
G
G
I
had
held
the
next
item
and
it's
2724
and
I
have
some
questions
of
staff,
but
if
there
are,
there
are
no
deputations
on
it.
There
is
there
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
ask
questions
of
staff
on
this?
Well
I'll
just
go
ahead,
and
do
that
then,
and
mike-mike
concern
and
I'll
direct.
The
first
question.
G
Obviously,
we've
seen
this
go
from
four
point:
eight
to
eleven
point:
eight
three
million
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
the
project,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
go
on
having
these
projects
that
have
these
significant
percentage
cost
increases
without
questioning
that
and
I
wonder
if
somebody
could
just
give
me
the
Coles
Notes
version
of
what
contributed
to
an
increase
from
four
point:
eight
to
eleven
point:
eight:
three
million
dollars.
Mr.
D
Mayor
all
at
certain
part,
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
staff
for
the
details.
This
pedestrian
bridge
was
first
approved
by
council
in
2011
and
at
that
time
was
based
on
EEA
work
with
zero
design
work
done
in
the
report.
In
2011
we
indicated
that
there
was
a
range
of
dollars
that
were
involved
4.2
to
6
million
dollars,
plus
a
one
to
two
million
dollar
increase
for
potential
landscaping.
Other
design
improvements
as
we
went
through
the
detailed
design.
D
G
G
G
D
Mr.
mayor,
that's
at
precisely
the
point
back
in
2011
we
weren't
using
a
stage
gate
process,
so
we
didn't
have
we
had
zero
design.
We
would
have
brought
back
under
our
regime.
We
bring
back
to
you
with
stage
gate
3,
which
would
be
a
30%
design.
That
would
be
done
the
way
that
we
would
do
that
now
and
you
would
have
had
a
much
better
confidence
in
the
number
that
we
have.
G
We,
since,
since
really
all
of
the
cost
here
is
in
some
way
related
or
a
big
portion
of
the
cost
increase
is
related
to
Metrolinx
is
change
of
height
requirements.
Have
we
been
in
touch
with
them
to
suggest
to
them
I'm
using
very
light
language,
but
to
tell
them
that
they
should
be
paying
up
for
part
of
the
cost
of
this
change
because
they
changed
their
requirements
between
2011
and
now?
Have
we
have
we
made
any
such
request
of
them?
Mr.
D
Mehra
specifically
on
this,
we
push
back
on
actual
dimension,
but
we
also
have
indicated
our
unhappiness
and
the
additional
cost
that
would
bring
on
us.
It's
a
much
bigger
conversation,
obviously
with
us
and
Metrolinx
on
the
whole,
the
total
number
of
bridges
that
will
be
impacted
by
the
RER
program,
we're
expecting
them
to
foot
the
bill
for
all
those
changes
and
they
have,
as
a
result,
looked
at
some
other
technologies
like
the
hydrogen
technology
as
a
way
of
obviating
which
are
going
to
be
very
substantial.
D
G
You
undertake
just
as
part
of
to
give
because
I've
never
seen
a
list
of
all
those
bridges,
but
you
know
caused
by
in
fact
I'm
saying
something
that
is
a
good
news
story
go
or
our
expansion
and
electrification.
Could
you
get
us
a
list
of
those
and
that
way,
and
including
this
one,
because
then
I
think
it
might
be
form
the
basis
of
a
broader
I'll
call
it
a
claim
to
them
for
financial
assistance.
With
this
mr.
G
G
Think
that's
when
the
taxpayers
I
think
that
we've
just
sort
of
I
don't
know
what
they
think
we're
doing.
But
you
know
I
think
there
actually
is
a
reasonable
explanation
that
the
deputy
city
manager
gave,
and
most
of
it
has
to
do
with
Metrolinx
and
I,
certainly
want
when
I
see
the
full
extent
of
the
expense
we
might
be
put
to
on
other
bridges,
including
this
one
want
to
claim
from
them
that
they
should
be
contributing
to
the
increase
in
cost
that
we're
undertaking
on
a
project
that
I
support
and
I
will
support
it
now.
G
You
know
why
the
cost
has
gone
from
from
one
amount
to
another.
I
will
say-
and
this
only
makes
me
feel
very,
very
slightly
mildly.
Better.
All
of
it
will
be
covered
by
growth,
related
revenues,
development
charge
funding,
but
those
are
public
dollars.
I
mean
in
every
respect,
I
mean
their
money
that
otherwise
could
be
put
to
something
else.
But
this
is
a
good
project.
It's
just
that
I
was
concerned
and
I
didn't
think.
G
The
report
answered
the
questions
for
us
and,
more
importantly,
for
the
people
who
read
these
reports
that
we
represent
so
I'll
stop
there
and
is
there
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak?
Okay,
I
have
this
motion,
then
that
asks
for
for
counsel
for
next
week,
a
breakdown
so
that
you
can
have
a
full
explanation
in
writing
that
mr.
Libby
gave
us
just
now
and
other
staff.
So
if
every
all
council
and
all
public
can
see
it
so
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
on
the
amendment.
G
G
Somehow,
in
my
my
Tuesday
morning,
lackadaisical
reading
of
the
agenda
I
missed
two
items
as
we
went
down
the
the
as
we
went
down
the
agenda
earlier
on
today
and
that
one
was
another
one
that
I
held
and
I
think
there's
a
motion
on
that,
but
it's
the
one
to
do
with
number
twenty
seven
point:
six:
adjustments
to
to
affordable
housing
loan
to
the
Deaf
YWCA
of
Greater
Toronto
they're
there.
Anybody
who
wants
to
ask
questions
of
staff
on
that
other
than
myself
I,
don't
really
want
to
ask
questions
of
staff.
G
I
just
want
to
speak
to
it
because
again
it's
one
of
those
things
I
think
people
would
shake
their
head.
Anybody
want
to
ask
questions
of
staff.
Anybody
else
wanting
to
speak.
Okay,
well,
I
will
do
it
again
and
I'll
just
start
the
puck.
This
this
is
an
instance
I
think
if
you've
read
the
report,
which
I
know
you
have
where,
in
a
nutshell
and
I
have
a
motion
here
that
is
asking
our
deputy,
our
chief
financial
officer
and
our
deputy
city
manager
cluster
a
to
have
further
discussions
with
the
province
of
Ontario.
G
With
regard
to
the
outstanding
provincial
and
municipal
loans
to
again
something
that
is
a
project
to
be
proud
of,
it's
a
project
to
be
proud
of
I
took
mayor's
from
the
other
cities
there
to
show
them
what
we
had
done
on
Elm
Street
and
what
the
YWCA
had
done
with
us
and
so
on.
But
it
did
require
and
I'm
not
quibbling
with
this
quite
a
bit
of
government
assistance
on
the
finances
and
what
you
see
in
front
of
you
now
is
a
report
that
says
well.
G
We
might
be
able
to
get
start
getting
our
loan
repaid
in
2030
for
17
years
from
now
after
the
province
has
had
its
infrastructure
and
Tara
loan
entirely
repaid
and
to
me
I
mean
I
me
I,
just
shake
my
head
in
complete
amazement
at
that,
and
so
I
would
like
to
ask
your
concurrence
in
sending
our
staff
back
and
I'm
sure
they've
had
some
discussions
already.
In
fact,
I
know
they
have
and
say
you
know
what
this
is
just
not
fair.
G
This
is
just
not
appropriate
that
we
should
be
saying
at
least
some
of
our
loans
should
be
getting
paid
back.
At
the
same
time,
so
that
our
loan
is
at
least
diminishing,
even
if
it's
not
5050
I
would
suggest
that
would
be
fair.
But
if
it's
some
other
number,
that's
fine,
but
the
notion
we
get
zero
until
2034
and
they
get
their
loan
entire.
We
paid
over
that
period
and
then
maybe
at
that
time,
depending
on
what's
going
on,
our
loan
starts
to
get
repaid.
G
I,
don't
think,
is
fair,
and
so,
when
I
saw
this
I,
you
know
I
just
said
that
I
want
the
staff
explained
what
had
gone
on
and
I
just
said.
Well,
I
would
very
much
like
them
to
go
back
and
to
advocate
on
our
behalf
that
we
have
to
get
a
better
deal
than
this
so
that
we
can
start
paying
our
loan
that's
money.
G
F
G
I,
don't
think
it's
a
matter
of
if
they
have
them
defaulting
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
I
think
that
what
I'm
suggesting
here
is
there
simply
be
a
different
repayment
schedule.
So
we
keep
paying
back
the
infrastructure
and
Tara
loan,
but
that
the
government
of
Ontario
infrastructure
Otero
actually
agrees
to
have
it
paid
back
a
bit
more
slowly,
so
that
we
can
start
getting
paid
back
over
the
same
period
of
time
but
I,
don't
because
any
question
would
cause
a
default,
but
that's
obviously
what
would
have
to
be
discussed.
G
B
Meritorious
aport
your
motion,
and
in
reading
this
and
discussing
it
as
well
with
my
colleague,
councillor
Barlow,
the
very
disappointing
part
is
that
this
money
was
supposed
to
come
back
and
then
we
could
use
it
for
more
affordable
housing.
It's
two
parts:
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
towards
a
construction
and
two
million
dollars
for
energy
savings.
Well,
even
if
the
energy
savings
aren't
what
we're
expected,
there's
energy
savings,
and
yet
our
loan
isn't
being
paid
back.
That's
not
right.
B
The
capital
costs
out
until
another
17
years
over
20
years
on
the
loan
at
zero
interest
is
I
would
believe
very
difficult,
because
how
do
you
treat
others
in
that
same
manner
when
they
ask
for
that?
We've
recently
had
sites
in
the
city
that
have
gone
up
for
sale
through
Bill
Toronto,
and
some
of
those
organized
agents
had
trouble
finding
the
ability
to
buy
the
land,
but
they
came
back
and
restructured
their
offer.
When
we
work
with
them,
we
were
able
to
purchase
land
to
build,
affordable
housing,
we're
working
with
them.
B
This
is
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
deferred
for
over
20
years.
That
cannot
go
in
to
other,
affordable
housing
units
anywhere
in
the
city,
because
another
party
being
another
government,
lien
ter
government,
has
also
loaned
money
through
infrastructure,
Ontario,
five
point:
two
million
dollars
and
their
loans
getting
repaid
and
there's
no
guarantee
at
all
in
that
loan
that
that
money
would
have
gone
into
affordable
housing.
B
I
believe
that
the
YWCA,
who
did
a
great
job
at
fundraising
for
this
project
initially
because
they
raised
millions
of
dollars,
has
to
go
back
and
try
and
find
some
more
fun
somehow
to
make
this
a
little
bit
better
for
the
taxpayers
of
Toronto
and
those
people
that
need
affordable
housing.
I,
don't
think
we
can
allow
this
money
to
sit
out
there
and
not
even
collect
interest
on
it
for
another
17
years
and
I.
B
This
was
an
arrangement
that
was
made
with
all
parties,
believing
it
could
be
done
and
I
have
no
problem
working
with
them,
but
I
don't
think
it's
fair
for
the.
Why
they
even
asked
us
to
even
ask
us
to
extend
this
out
for
another
17
years
and
get
nothing
out
of
it,
because
it's
not
fair
to
those
that
need
housing
now
and
to
how
much
we're
struggling
forth
I
think
they
have
to
come
back
as
well
as
not
just
the
government's
but
I
think
the.
B
Why
has
to
come
back
to
the
table
and
help
to
at
least
make
the
interest
payments
and
small
payments
on
the
principle?
So
we
can
look
at
helping
others
with
this
money
and
not
having
a
tied
up
forever
with
just
the
one
organization
and
I
think
it
was
a
great
project,
I'm
proud
of
what
we
all
did
together,
but
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
respect
for
the
process
and
the
ability
to
have
that
money
flow
back
into
the
system
to
be
used
in
other
projects.
G
Thank
You
counselor
any
other
people
wishing
to
speak.
Okay,
then
so
I
guess
we
have
this
motion
that
I've
moved,
which
we
can
put
up
on
the
screen,
and
this
essentially
refers
this
for
further
negotiation
with
the
problems.
That's
in
a
nutshell,
what
we're
doing
I'm
ready
to
call
the
question
on
that
all
those
in
favor
pose
carry.
G
With
your
concurrence,
mister
Williams
has
very
kindly
agreed
that
he
would
I
think
stand
down
defer
it's
not
mr.
Williams,
who
is
it
mr.
Rossini?
Mr.,
oh
and
mr.
myko
is
anywhere
where
I
see
mr.
myko.
He
hiding
in
the
back
here
I
just
and
again,
I'll
seek
your
concurrence
members
of
the
committee
to
put
over
with
apologies,
the
presentation,
because
it
is
a
presentation
on
Smarties.
It's
just
an
update
and
I'm.
Just
trying
to
you
know
have
us
not.
You
know,
devote
on
due
time
to
that.
G
G
That
brings
us
to
item
27
point
3-0,
Toronto,
Police,
Service
matter,
on
which
we
have
deputations
we're
going
to
be
hearing
from
deputies
on
this
topic
and
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
brief
comment
before
we
do
I'm
going
to
say
now
for
the
benefit
of
the
decadence
before
we
hear
from
them
that
it
is
my
understanding,
councillor
Thompson
will
be
moving
emotion
and
that
I
support
his
recommendation.
I
think
this
allows
us
to
acknowledge
this
item,
but
that
it
will
receive
no
further
response.
G
The
fact
we've
been
asked
to
respond
to
this
item
at
all
as
a
political
stunt.
That
is
meant
to
divide
people,
and
that
is
not.
That
is
not
what
I'm
about
as
mayor.
It
is
not
what
this
committee
is
about,
and
it's
not
what
council
is
about,
and
it's
not
what
our
city
should
be
about.
My
support
for
the
police
is
not
in
question.
I
support
our
police.
The
members
of
this
committee
support
the
police
and
the
members
of
City
Council
support.
The
police.
G
People
know
that,
but
supporting
the
police
doesn't
mean
that
you
avoid
difficult
conversations.
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
city
staff,
but
I
also
know
that
we
have
to
be
looking
for
ways
all
the
time
to
improve,
and
so
support
for
a
particular
group
and
desire
to
see
improvement
are
not
mutually
exclusive.
The
backers
of
this
political
stunt
would
have
you
believe
that,
but
it's
an
utterly
false
choice.
G
It's
an
utterly
false
choice,
and
so
I
and
I'm
sure
the
members
of
the
committee,
we're
gonna,
hear
from
people
today
wholeheartedly
support
the
active
efforts
by
chief
Saunders
and
the
police,
Board
of
which
I'm
a
member
to
modernize
policing
in
Toronto
and
improve
trust
with
the
black
community
and
other
diverse
communities
across
the
city
and
supporting
our
frontline
officers
as
I.
Do
means
understanding
that
trust
from
the
community
is
their
greatest
asset
and
that
we
have
to
work
together
to
protect
that
trust
for
the
benefit
of
the
police
and
the
community.
G
That's
what
real
support
looks
like
so
now
we'll
hear
from
the
deputies
who
have
taken
time
from
their
day
to
come
down
here
for
therefore
this
item,
and
we
will
take
them
in
in
order
that
they're
listed
on
the
list
here.
The
first
one
being
brian
de
Matos
as
mr.
D'amato
is
here,
he's
major
drivers
who
are
here.
G
N
G
N
To
thank
you
I,
want
to
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Earlier
John,
Tory,
I,
completely
agree,
greetings,
respected,
council
members
of
the
Executive
Committee
and
Giorgio.
My
name
is
Bart
de
Matos
and
I'm,
a
very
active
member
within
the
LGBT
tt-to
cube
communities.
Many
of
us
are
here
today
to
oppose
this
motion
that
is
rooted
in
anti
black
racism,
homophobia
and
transphobia.
N
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
all
members
of
City
Council
get
this
message
that
City
Council
George
in
particularly
the
message
we
want
you
to
remember
remember
this
upcoming
election
season
is
that
you
will
never
again
allow
you
to
use
our
name
as
lesbian,
gay,
bi,
trans
and
two-spirited
folks,
so
you
can
discriminate
against
other
black
members
of
our
communities
and
black
communities
as
a
whole.
We
denounce
your
attempts
trying
to
use
political
diversity,
x2
divorce,
blackness
from
queerness
blackness
from
transness.
You
will
not
allow
it.
N
You
will
not
be
able
to
because
it
can't
simply
will
not
allow
it.
This
motion
was
obviously
written
up
and
pushed
forward
from
city
officials
without
question,
who
continue
to
remain
ignorant
about
the
LGBTQ
community,
our
history
and
the
very
history
of
pride
politics
itself.
We
remind
the
city
that
pride
started
as
a
protest,
challenging
fighting
and
denouncing
police
brutality
in
all
forms.
N
We
all
know
we
all
know
well
that
this
motion
of
anti
black
racism
is
another
example
of
systemic
racism
in
the
municipal
level
and
the
pattern
of
certain
councillors
and
the
waste
of
tax
dollars.
We
use
to
entertain
what
clearly
is
attacking
an
amazing
group
of
folks
and
volunteers
who
contribute
to
this
community.
Does
councillor
not
known
that
the
message
he
is
really
sending
or
conveniently?
Are
we
just
so
close
to
an
election
year
for
practical
motions
to
pass
this
committee?
The
motion
lacks
and
mislead
and
is
misleading.
N
What's
on
the
notional
sorry,
the
motion
lacks
and
mislead.
What
support
looks
like?
Let
us
remind
this
committee
at
City
Council,
with
our
tax
dollars,
a
firm
support
for
Toronto
police
services
each
year
through
the
generous
city
budget.
We
allocate
for
them.
Let
me
also
point
out
that
the
discriminatory
motion
that
values
one
city
employer
after
another,
we
should
be
affirming
support
for
all
city
of
Toronto
employees,
not
just
ones
we
give
guns
to
I,
would
also
like
to
remind
council
members.
The
police
are
not
a
marginalized
or
an
ordered,
pressed
minority.
N
They
are
not
protected
in
the
Charter
of
Rights,
because
no
one
has
ever
experienced
being
oppressed
for
choosing
to
be
a
police
officer
operative
word
in
this
sentence:
choice
as
it
stated
in
this
motion,
the
Toronto
Police
Services
manages
manages
a
host
of
Public
Safety
issue
without
praise
or
special
recognition.
This
is
not
true.
They
get
rewarded
and
praised
every
time
they
catch
their
paychecks.
Perhaps
it's
my
working-class
background,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
folks
don't
need
praise
for
doing
their
job.
They
get
paid
for
it.
N
It
is
unfair
for
you
to
present
police
work
more
valuable
than
any
other
job
in
this
city.
This
is
what
discrimination
looks
like
in
the
systemic
level.
Let
us
remind
you,
we
will
remain
vigilant.
We
will
remain
informed.
We
will
be
active
and
rebuild,
as
we
always
have
done,
will
remain
political.
We
will
fight
and
challenge
the
City
Hall
at
every
opportunity
where
racism,
homophobia
and
transphobia
emotions
are
attempting
to
violate
the
core
values
of
the
city.
Diversity
is,
and
will
always
remain
our
strength
and
again
will
never
allow
you
to
use
our
name.
N
Some
I'm,
sorry
that
that's
what
you
think
you
heard,
but
let
me
elaborate
a
little
it's,
not
the
fact
that
you
want
to
support
police.
It's
the
fact
that
this
motion
that's
ridden,
anti-black
racism.
You
want
to
use
the
LGBT
community,
which,
historically
with
my
community,
the
only
experience
we
have
with
you
is
devaluing
us
and
defunding
us.
So
spare
me
the
s
that
this
is
appropriately
stance.
When
you
only
care
to
use
the
name
LGBT,
when
you
can
further
your
political
conservative
goal,
no,
the
police
are
supported
by
the
city
every
day.
N
G
N
N
Okay,
if
you
ever
met
them-
they're
amazing,
LGBT,
folks,
who
are
part
of
our
community,
and
that
is
why
they
were
at
Pride
because
they
were
invited
because
they
belong
because
we
honor
them
and
you
might
not
agree
with
all
their
tactics,
but
does
it
mean
that
we,
they
shouldn't
still
be
listened
to?
And
this
idea
of
that
this
motion
supports
the
police,
D
values
every
other
job,
where
where's
this
motion
to
support
all
the
maintenance
workers
of
the
City
Hall
I've.
Never
so
last
one
o
I.
I
In
my
27
years
have
move
motions
to
support
maintenance
workers
to
support
our
grassroot
employees
to
support
our
managers.
Those
motions
have
always
come
from
me
in
the
past,
and
this
is
no
different
than
that
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
why
it
is
that
yourself
and
I've
heard
some
comments
even
from
the
mayor
today,
that
are
pretty
aggressive,
I,
think
and
saying
that
City
Hall
should
not
support
its
Police
Department.
N
Interesting
Redick,
you
choose
so
you're,
probably
not
paying
attention.
So
let
me
be
is
very
basic
as
much
as
I
can
he's
not
even
he
can
understand.
We
are
supporting
the
police
every
day
when
we
use
our
tax
dollars
to
pay
them.
We
are
supporting
our
police.
Have
you
been
to
the
TPS
Board?
What
about
all
the
initiatives
we
sent
this
motion?
It
is
not
the
fact
that
you
want
to
that.
You
want
to
lie
to
us
to
say
that
this
is
sporting,
the
police.
This
is
an
anti
book.
N
This
is
a
homophobic
transphobic,
an
anti
black
racist
attack,
you're
attacking
black
lives
matter
you're
using
LGBTQ
pride
you're,
violating
pride
tantos
system
of
democracy.
We
as
a
community
got
together
as
a
membership
and
voted
this
resolution
and
you're
violating
that
and
you're
supporting
this
divisive
rhetoric
that
there
is
this,
that
police
are
being
victimized
so.
I
When
I
wrote
this
motion
up,
there
wasn't
a
feeling
out
there
of
being
abandoned
by
the
by
the
police.
The
local
grass
root
off
assert
that
I've
talked
to
in
the
past
have
very
clearly
pointed
to
the
fact
that
they
feel
like
City
Hall
has
neglected
them
that
they
feel
that
their
morale
is
down,
that
we
take
tools
away
from
them.
We
take
the
money
away
from
them
and
when.
I
I
With
with
the
morale
down
the
way,
it
is,
I
felt
that
there
was
a
need
for
City
Hall
to
to
say
to
those
grassroot
officers,
the
majority
of
them
that
are
good
officers,
that
they're
doing
a
good
job
and
that
we
do
support
them
at
City,
Hall
you're,
seeing
that
is
a
completely
different
message.
I'm
still
having
a
hard
time
understanding
where
you're
feeling
that
way,
because
I'm
pretty
clear
in
terms
of
the
motion,
I
support,
the
police
and
I
do
feel
for
them
and
how
they're
feeling.
Today
we
have
the
question
there.
N
See
the
question:
maybe
it's
my
working-class
background,
but
to
me
when
I
get
paid
for
a
job,
I,
don't
get
you
know,
I,
don't
expect
to
be
congratulated
every
job
I
do
that
comes
with
a
paycheck,
and
you
say
that
the
police
feel
tomorrow
what
about
Miller?
What
about
all
these
individuals
in
the
black
community
that
don't
have
trust
with
employees?
What
about
you
using
the
LGBT
community,
who
decided
as
together,
who
decided
together
that
we
need
the
police
to
step
aside,
so
we
can
help
folks
in
our
community
build
better
relation
chips.
N
F
G
You
very
much
he
just
answered
the
question
that
counsellor
I
merely
to
ask
them,
though
we're
over
time
only
because
the
question
ended
after
six
after
five
minutes.
Are
there
other
questions
of
the
step
unit?
Okay?
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
contribution.
Thank
You,
Mara,
Torre,
Danny,
Pacey
or
Danny
Pacey,
sorry!
Is
it
Danny
or
Danny
Danny?
G
E
Thank
you,
mr.
mayor,
thanks
to
the
executive
committee
for
waiting
through
the
rest
of
the
day
and
hearing
these
deputations
all
the
way
to
the
end.
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Danny
Pacey
I'm,
a
resident
of
426
and
I'm,
a
member
of
showing
up
for
racial
justice,
Toronto,
also
known
as
search
toronto
search.
Tronto
is
a
local
chapter
of
an
international
network
of
white
people,
organizing
for
racial
justice.
The
Toronto
chapter
has
over
1,000
affiliated
members
and
over
200
of
them
are
actively
undertaking
work
around
the
city.
E
So
I
have
to
preface
my
statements
by
saying
that,
although
I'm
here
to
ask
the
committee
to
vote
against
the
motion,
I
do
not
speak
as
a
representative
of
BL
MTO,
nor
does
Serge
claim
to
represent
via
LAN
Tia
we're
here
in
our
own
capacity.
Now.
I'm
personally
am
present
as
both
the
white
person,
and
it
must
be
said,
a
member
of
the
LGBTQ
community
to
hold
this
this
committee
to
account
over
the
recommendations
made
in
the
interim
Toronto
action
plan
to
confront
anti
black
racism.
E
Let
me
be
very
clear
that
motion
ix20
7.30
was
written
in
a
spirit
of
racism
in
a
spirit
of
anti
black
racism.
Specifically
I
am
talking
about
the
content
of
the
motion,
not
the
title.
It
must
be
read
word
for
word
comprehensively
end
to
end
now
before
I
get
into
it.
I
will
reiterate
one
of
BL
MTO's
demands
which
really
captures
why
search
tio
is
here
today.
Bl
MTO
have
demanded,
quote
a
condemnation
of
Toronto
police's,
excessive
use
of
force
and
ongoing
intimidation
and
harassment,
tactics
of
against
black
lives
matter,
Toronto
protesters
I.
E
Ask
you,
mr.
mayor
to
consider
how
motion
ix20
7.30
is
exactly
such
an
act
of
intimidation.
There
are
no
two
ways
about
it.
Motion
ix20
7.30
is
explicitly
intended
to
discredit
BL
MTO.
It
seeks
to
create
precedent
and
counsel
for
supporting
police
/
civilians
when
discussing
issues
of
justice
for
black
people,
including
black
LGBTQ
people
and
I.
E
Think
Brian
spoke
to
that
pretty
clearly
the
motion
lashes
out
seeking
to
discredit,
vilify
and
demonize
a
specific
community
group,
a
group
of
constituents
with
valid
concerns
on
the
basis
of
race
and
doing
so
it
engages
in
hypocrisy,
because
the
motion
equates
protests
with
bad
behavior
of
the
very
kind
the
motion
is
engaged
in
mr.
mayor,
the
interim
Toronto
action
plan
to
confront
anti
black
racism
issued
in
June
just
of
this
year
suggest
only
three
months
ago.
Coalesce
is
over
40
years
of
studies
and
reports
that
prove
the
existence
of
anti
black
racism.
E
In
the
city
theme,
number
5
of
the
report
is
policing
in
the
justice
system
by
the
admission
of
this
report.
Mr.
mayor,
black
residents
of
the
city
are
over
policed
and
racially
profiled,
and
that's
on
page
35.
You
can
look
it
up.
A
vote
for
the
motion
before
us
would
directly
contradict
the
mandate
of
that
action
plan.
Let
me
rephrase
because
of
the
motion
before
us
targets,
BL
MTO
specifically,
and
refuses
to
take
seriously
their
concerns
about
anti
black
racism,
white
supremacy
and
police
violence.
The
motion
is
engaging
in
racism.
E
I
Events
that
have
taken
place
like
like
the
parade
in
question
and
mentioned
in
my
motion,
a
parade
that
the
taxpayers
help
fund
and
what
we're
just
supposed
to
sit
back
and
accept
that
kind
of
hostage
taking
on
a
regular
basis.
The
group
continually
takes
over
public
spaces
and
our
harasses
the
police,
in
my
opinion-
and
we
are
just
supposed
to
just
sit
back
and
let
that
sort
of
Anarchy
take
place
in
the
City
of
Toronto
I.
E
Object,
mr.
chair
to
the
use
of
the
words
hostage
taking
in
this
case,
I
believe
it
is
equating
a
really
violent
act
with
an
act
of
protest
which
the
MTO's
actions
are
and
I.
Believe.
Protest
is
engaged
in
I'm,
not
here
to
debate,
protest
tactics
I'm
here
to
support
the
actions
of
BL
MTO
because
they
believe
and
and
do
experience
over
policing
in
this
city
and
are
looking
for
a
way
to
communicate
it
to
ears
that
would
otherwise
not
hear
them.
So
I
encourage
you
to
throw
this
motion
out.
I
am
NOT.
E
E
G
I
G
G
K
So,
just
to
provide
some
context.
My
name
is
andreas
Keshe,
I'm,
co-chair
of
Latin
X
afro,
Latin,
America,
IV,
I,
yell,
agitation,
I
work
through
our
own
community
consultations,
forums
and
knowledge
exchanges
to
community
members
from
our
three
year
action
plan
from
2015
to
2018.
One
of
our
action
pieces
is
for
the
full
removal
of
the
SRO
program,
so
just
want
to
provide
some
context
there.
First
and
foremost,
please
be
aware
that
the
summary
that
counselor
memo
NIDA
provided
in
regards
to
this
motion-
ix20
7.30,
indeed
solely-
is
utilized
to
vilify
black
lives
matter
toronto.
K
Indeed,
there
this
dehumanizing
and
even
demonizing
narratives,
bears
no
truth.
Black
lives
matter.
Toronto
opposes
and
exposes
police
brutality
and
systemic
issues
such
as
anti
blackness
in
various
institutions
and
primarily
that
of
the
policing
institution.
We
are
well
aware
that
it
is
public
information
that
Etobicoke
your
community
council
earlier
this
year,
sent
a
joint
letter
to
the
attention
the
trauma,
Police,
Services
Board
and
supported
the
SRO
program.
The
fact
that
a
support
letter
was
even
created
highlights
and
speaks
volumes
of
those
counselors
who
sign
off
on
it
as
to
their
lack
of
knowledge.
K
On
the
multiple
issues
and
lack
of
concern
for
their
communities
as
to
those
who
they
deemed
to
represent,
along
with
a
ratio
of
these,
their
community
voices,
lived
experiences,
and
particularly
those
who
are
most
impacted,
marginalized
and
vulnerable
in
regards
to
the
research.
This
is
not
an
exhaustive
list,
but
instead
speaks
to
the
truth
that
there
are
multiple
reports
finding
some
research
that
speaks
to
the
negative
impacts,
experiences
and
realities
of
our
youth,
in
which
public
servants
continue
to
dismiss.
It
also
highlights
solutions.
K
There
were
two
major
to
the
consultations
completed
the
falconer
report
on
school
safety
in
the
2008
McMurtry
curling
report
on
the
roots
of
youth
violence.
These
two
reports
came
out
of
months
of
consultations
with
students,
parents,
teachers
and
support
workers
and
recommended
more
frontline
workers,
be
placed
in
schools,
not
police
officers.
Most
recently
in
2017,
dr.
K
In
addition,
there
are
many
organizations,
aside
from
black
lives
matter,
Toronto
who
are
demanding
the
full
removal
of
the
SRO
program
organizations
such
as
Lyon,
educators
for
peace
and
justice,
Gina
Finch
coalition
of
community
organization,
surged
Jane
and
Finch
coalition
against
poverty,
EastEnders
Against,
Racism,
180
chain,
Street,
African,
Canadian,
Coalition,
community
organizations,
education,
not
incarceration,
no
cops
and
many
other
organizations,
some
of
them
even
advocating
for
the
removal
of
SROs.
Since
its
inception,
there's
also
a
petition
of
over
a
thousand
signatures
demanding
the
removal
of
the
SRO
program.
K
In
addition,
within
a
publicly
accessible
article
by
News,
Talk
10:10,
entitled
quote,
West
enter
on
cancer,
signed
petition
to
bad
cops
in
Schools
program.
Unquote,
miletti
slammed
the
argument
from
the
SRO
program.
Critics
as
to
black
students
become
a
target
for
harassment.
Councillor
Molina
is
directly
quoted,
stating
that
quote
it's
hogwash
and
quote,
and
that
quote
instead
of
us
listening
to
them,
we
should
be
ignoring
them
and
quote
within
the
article
My
Melody
frames
the
debate
as
City
business
being
quote
hijacked
by
a
small
minority.
That
quote,
wants
to
cause
chaos
in
the
city.
K
My
Melody's
statements,
just
as
in
this
article
of
news,
talk
10/10
and
this
motion
summary
are
misleading
the
public
by
misrepresenting
the
issues
at
hand
and
not
being
in
service
of
public
that
have
actually
elected
him.
In
fact,
this
makes
us
believe
that,
since
indeed
this
motion
is
out
of
order
for
the
City
of
Toronto
and
because
it
can
only
be
deemed
as
something
symbolic
and
even
strategical
for
her
own
purposeful
gain.
It
seems
to
be
that
potentially
mama
Libby
has
put
this
forward
as
a
self-serving
agenda.
K
My
movie
has
been
criminally
investigated
by
the
Toronto
Police
Service
previously,
which
is
also
publicly
known.
Therefore,
this
is
Dean
doesn't
intend
to
solely
befriend
them,
potentially
when
many
councillor
councillors
and
city
public
servants
have
forgotten,
and
not
only
mama.
Lady
is
that
you
are
public
servants.
You
are
here
to
service
the
public
and
please
do
not
believe
the
false
narratives
that
have
been
provided
within
the
context
of
this
motion.
Ok,.
I
Could
it
be
that
there's
just
a
small
group
of
people
out
there
that
actually
know
that
the
officers
can
very
quickly
get
to
the
problem
now
and
they
don't
want
those
officers
around
because
then
in
fear,
perhaps
what
they've
they've
got
something
up
their
sleeve?
Could
it
be
that
the
cops
are
actually
doing
their
job
and
people
are
afraid
of
that.
K
So,
in
regards
to
a
way
you
have
through,
the
chair
we
have
spoken
about
is
actually
against
the
multiple
amounts
of
findings
and
research
that
it's
readily
available.
You
can
actually
look
it
up
via
Google
or
through
attending
University
of
Toronto
York
University
speaking
with
dr.
Karl
James,
who
is
against
the
SRO
program,
along
with
George
JSF
a
day
which
is
an
anti-racist
education
at
ozi
University
of
Toronto.
These
are
about
systemic
issues
and
not
about
individual
officers.
K
This
is
about
anti
black
racism,
entrenched
within
institutions,
and
so
it
essentially
goes
against
the
research
that
we
have,
and
it's
not
only
the
research
that
is
provided
today.
We
can
definitely
provide
all
other
methods
of
research.
That
way
everyone
can
be
much
more
well
informed.
We
also
have
an
SRO
community
consultation
and
call
to
action
at
Black,
Creek,
Community,
Health,
Center
you're.
More
than
welcome
to
attend
it's
going
to
be
on
October,
the
11th
4:30
until
7:30
p.m.
I
Could
it
be
that
officers
on
the
front
lines
of
our
streets
were
actually
getting
to
know
the
those
that
were
committing
the
crimes
and
and
knew
exactly
perhaps
when
those
crimes
would
be
committed
with
guns
and
and
drugs,
and
and
otherwise,
and
and
that
this
could
have
this?
This
strategy
that
seems
to
be
put
in
place
by
black
lives
matter
and
others
is
a
tactic
and
in
trying
to
get
the
police
off
their
back?
Could
it
be
well.
K
This
is
actually.
This
is
not
a
brand
new
issue,
it
didn't
actually
start
as
soon
as
a
black
lives
matter
highlighted.
This
has
been
an
issue
since
its
inception.
Statistically
we
see
a
racial
profiling.
We
are
very
much
aware
by
the
Toronto
Police
Service
board.
They
had
advised
that
a
sorrows
are
on
information
gathering
teams
well
we're
not
aware
of,
as
is
as
to
where
this
data,
what
database
this
actually
leads
to.
K
We've
actually
even
seen,
statistically
an
increase,
not
only
an
arrest
but
as
well
as
increase
of
charges
instead
of
utilizing
detention,
suspensions
or
even
expulsion,
so
we've
actually
seen
also
a
school
to
Prison
Pipeline
and
not
all
kids
get
the
same
chances
right.
We
do
see
a
predominant
of
black
and
indigenous
students
being
affected,
not
necessarily
most
white
students.
I
Could
it
be
that
the
only
people
that
are
disagreeing
with
this
motion
seem
to
be
a
few
politicians
around
this
table
and
don't
want
to
deal
with
and
that
perhaps
the
majority
of
Torontonians
are
sick
and
tired
of
any
one
group
going
after
its
police
officers
and
want
to
show
support
for
the
police
officers?
Could
it
be
that
the
majority
of
Torontonians
actually
support
this
motion
and
want
city
hall
to
support
its
police
officers,
and
let
them
know
that
we're
listening
to
how
they're
feeling
in
terms
of
their
morale,
could
it
be
I?
Think.
K
That
having
the
most
highest
budget
for
Toronto
Police
Service
already
speaks
for
itself
and
I
can't
necessarily
speculate
as
to
what
other
residents
of
Toronto
are
thinking,
but
definitely
it's
not
a
popularity
kind
and
contest
when
we're
looking
to
attack
anti
black
racism
at
its
roots
within
institutions
within
processes
within
policies.
We
have
to
really
look
at
the
systemic
issues
and
not
looking
at
police
as
just
individual
officers.
K
We
have
to
really
look
at
what's
the
historical
and
present
impact
of
the
police
force
and
police
institutions
on
our
youth
and
educators
and
parents
within
the
bounds
of
classrooms
and
schools
and
well,
what
I
was
speaking
to
today
was
more
so
through
the
chair,
the
context
of
the
agenda
item
as
to
mammal
II.
These
words
in
regards
to
demonizing
black
lives
matter,
Toronto.
I
Could
it
be
that
our
local
neighborhoods
want
a
police
department
that
will
show
up
when
they're
called
that
they'll
want
their
police
officers
at
a
grassroot
level
to
be
happy
when
they
come
out,
knowing
that
they've
got
the
full
support
of
Toronto?
Could
it
be
that
that
I'm,
right
that
in
our
local
pockets
and
our
own
communities,
people
are
saying?
Why
did
we
do
this
to
the
police
department
last
question?
Could
it
be
so.
K
K
G
O
O
My
name
is
Scout
Schwartz
I'm
here
as
an
individual
and
as
a
member
of
showing
up
for
racial
justice.
Toronto
and
I
am
actually
here
putting
into
the
public
record
a
stack
of
hundreds
of
postcards
signed
by
members
of
public
across
all
Ward's
of
the
city
asking
you
meritorious
ated
your
comments
earlier
by
asking
you,
as
well
as
other
members
of
this
Executive
Council,
to
take
a
strong
stance
against
anti
black
racism
in
City
Council
and
especially
against
this
anti
black
motion
today.
So
I'll
enter
that
in
afterwards,
I'll
just.
O
So
I
want
the
entire
council
here
committed
here.
To
keep
that
in
mind.
This
motion
is
symbolic
in
nature,
but
what
it
represents
is
the
worst
of
humanity.
I
urge
you
to
reject
it.
It
is
embarrassing
and
shameful
for
city
councillors,
but
that
does
not
mean
that
we
should
dismiss
this
motion
as
irrelevant.
O
Oppressors
in
power
have
always
sought
to
discredit
and
denounce
groups
that
resist
their
oppression.
We
saw
this
rhetoric
in
the
time
of
slavery
in
the
civil
rights
era,
and
we
see
it
still
today.
This
motion
is
anti
progress
when
black
communities
or
other
marginalized
communities
demand
better
demand,
equity
and
demand
the
conditions
to
survive
and
thrive.
O
They
are
seen
as
somehow
dangerous,
and
this
is
racist
because,
because
it
implies
that
their
right
to
life
is
somehow
harmful,
this
is
also
dangerous,
as
in
reality,
this
idea
is
used
against
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color
communities
as
the
justification
for
their
harm,
violence
and
even
death,
often
at
the
hands
of
police.
We
do
have
a
problem
in
this
city.
The
Toronto
Police
Service,
is
out
of
control.
They
have
been
for
quite
some
time.
This
is
not
a
new
problem.
O
It
is
only
now
making
news
because
people
love
to
make
news
out
of
black
lives
matter.
That's
what
ma'am
led
is
doing,
and
we
know
this,
but
regardless
of
how
this
motion
goes
down
today,
we
do
have
a
problem
in
this
city,
and
each
of
you
are
in
a
position
to
fix
it.
It's
actually
your
jobs
and
you
are
accountable
to
your
constituents
and
to
the
people
in
this
city.
O
All
of
the
people
like
I,
see
the
time
that
you
give
two
ravines
and
that's
great,
but
the
Toronto
Police
has
a
deep-rooted
anti
black
racism
problem
and
there
must
be
action
taken
against
this.
This
motion,
when
released
referred
to
police
bashing,
beat
being
at
an
all-time
high,
which
is
actually
quite
fitting
in
that
police
bashing,
as
in
police,
brutalization
of
black
communities,
is
at
an
all-time
high
is
likely
actually
at
the
same
level.
O
But
we're
being
aware
it
made
aware
of
it
now
in
the
spirit
of
Andrew
Lowe
cooze
memory
in
thinking
about
de
Fonteyn
Miller.
These
officers,
who
brutalized
these
black
community
members
were
allowed
to
remain
in
service
or
in
service
for
months
we're
seeing
undocumented
children
being
put
in
harm's
way
because
of
police
officers
at
schools,
as
other
speakers
have
mentioned,
BLM
did
not
create
the
issues
that
they
bring
attention
to.
They
represent
long-standing
issues.
The
communities
have
tried
to
raise
and
have
been
ignored.
O
O
G
O
Black
lives
matter
activists
are
giving
us
a
gift,
they're,
providing
you
and
us
all,
with
a
key
to
solve
a
puzzle
that
has
many
missing
pieces.
They
are
harassed
by
police,
they're,
giving
death
threats
and
they
are
subject
to
motions
like
this
one,
which
seek
to
distort
the
truth.
If
Toronto,
if
a
Toronto
Bridge
were
to
collapse
and
Torontonians
were
killed,
this
committee
would
not
be
considering
a
motion
to
affirm
support
for
city
engineers.
Someone
would
be
held
accountable,
maybe
even
fired
and
the
city
would
be
compensating
victims
and
fixing
whatever
conditions
made.
It
possible.
G
P
Evening
or
afternoon,
Executive
Committee
members
I'm
grateful
for
my
right
as
a
constituent
to
make
a
deputation
as
the
Toronto
born
citizen
goes
to
rallies
and
has
been
on
strike.
As
a
teacher
I'm
opposed
to
this
motion,
it
wants
us
to
believe
that
protest
is
dangerous
and
it
wants
us
to
believe
that
uniformed
officers
officers
are
just
regular.
People
walking
around
I
cannot
accept
these
two
premises.
Therefore,
I
cannot
accept
this
motion.
Protest
is
protected.
Activity
in
a
democracy.
Protest
can
stop
and
block
meetings,
parades
traffic
and
is
intended
to
cause
disruption.
P
The
Canadian
civil
liberties
Association
reminds
us
that
strong
protections
for
the
right
to
protest
are
essential
to
informed
and
meaningful
political
debate.
I
cannot
accept
the
moral
claims
that
black
lives
matter
has
vilified
and
demonized.
The
Toronto
Police
Service
protest
is
disruption.
Not
aggression.
Protest
is
a
right.
The
second
point
is
that
the
Toronto
Police
Service
isn't
a
person
when
uniformed
officers
walk
around
his
people.
They
aren't
actually
by
themselves,
but
a
rather
propped
up
by
powerful
systemic
policies.
They're
supported
by
a
large
institution.
P
They're
salaried
union
executives
the
law
their
right
to
carry
and
use
firearms.
I'm,
all
for
the
protection
of
people,
the
entero
Human
Rights
Code,
provides
freedom
from
discrimination
for
persons
not
for
occupations
or
occupations
with
uniforms.
The
Toronto
Police
Service
as
an
entity
is
not
capable
of
being
victimized
by
and
is
not
equal
to
volunteers.
In
a
protest
group,
it
is
false
reasoning
and
I
don't
buy
it.
P
Furthermore,
you
can
take
off
the
uniform
of
your
job,
but
you
can't
escape
your
social
existence.
I'm
the
mother
of
a
block
daughter,
who
is
now
an
adult
when
she
was
a
teenager.
I
did
not
have
the
option
to
say
you're
going
to
the
Eaton
Centre
with
your
black
friends
changed
into
your
whiteness
outfit,
so
no
one
thinks
you're
a
shoplifter.
P
P
The
US
has
hate
crime
protection
laws
that
now
include
the
police
Louisiana
in
2016,
with
the
highest
incarceration
rate
in
the
world.
Was
the
first
of
16
states
to
have
another
reason
to
make
it
citizens,
criminals,
Toronto
police,
are
not
vulnerable
victims
and
need
a
protection?
Let's
not
go.
The
blue
lives
matter
route.
The
danger
of
this
motion
is
the
fabrication
of
black
lives
matter
Toronto
as
an
enemy.
The
danger
of
this
motion
is
the
manufacturing
of
the
message
that
protests
is
an
anticipation
of
violence
and
I,
don't
buy
it.
I
So
you
don't
think
that
City
Hall
should
show
some
support
to
the
police
department.
After
a
couple
of
weeks
of
of
them,
trying
to
I
guess
get
out
the
message
and
how
the
how
the
force
is
feeling
out
there.
You
don't
think
that
City
Hall
should
take
note
of
it
and
say
that
we
do
support
our
police
officers.
I.
F
P
On
their
social
existence,
but
not
occupations,
I'm,
a
teacher
believe
me,
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
vilified.
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
on
strike.
You
know.
Oh
we've
got
the
great
pension,
all
that
business.
Okay,
but
I.
You
know
I'm
I
can
go
home
I,
you
know,
I
can't
escape
the
socializations
and
I
have
a
daughter.
L
P
Yeah
I
know
my
my
point
is
that
they're
already
supported
by
you
know
the
system
of
police,
so
they
can
carry
guns
they
they
have
all
kinds
of
means.
They
have.
You
know
I'm
a
teacher.
We
have
our
union
to
do.
We
had
the
unit
to
do
our
work
to
go
to
that
for
the
Charter
challenge,
volunteers
and
a
protest
group.
Don't
have
the
same
access
that
the
police
already
have
I,
don't
see
the
you
know,
motion
for
further
support
when
they're,
not
even
a
group
of
people
they're
like
a
job
well,.
I
A
job
needs
resources
and
like
teachers
who
have
been,
whose
resources
have
been
taken
away
for
the
children
and
murder
for
them
to
do
their
job.
Teachers
have
felt
the
same
way
over
the
years
having
to
do
a
job
without
the
resources,
because
government
keeps
taking
them
away.
In
this
particular
case,
we
have
officers
who
walk
our
streets
every
day,
who
are
asking
us
those
questions.
I
P
Specifics
for
me,
I'm
I'm,
looking
at
structural
racism
and
when
you,
if
you
taken
an
anti-racist
education
or
workshop,
you
know
you
will
learn
their
structural
racism,
institutional
racism,
interpersonal,
racial
racism
and
internalized
racism,
racism,
I'm,
gonna,
get
the
structural
racism,
which
is
beliefs,
norms,
cultural
values.
That's
what
I'm
looking
at
that.
I
G
M
The
question
is
baked
as
to
why
this
motion
now
why
now,
when
we
have
a
city
that
is
grappling
with
so
many
vital
and
pressing
issues
such
as
the
housing
crisis,
the
opioid
crisis,
the
homelessness
crisis,
just
to
name
a
few,
when
the
city
has
finally
taken
its
step
on
the
path
to
confront
and
address
anti-black
racism,
as
illustrated
by
the
draft
action
plan
earlier
this
year.
Why
now,
when
the
city
has
decided
to
build
bridges
with
its
communities?
M
Urban
Alliance
urges
the
council
to
consider
the
social
and
political
context
in
which
this
motion
is
set.
For
over
40
years,
we
have
been
fighting
racism
through
education,
research
and
community
development,
working
to
build
bridges
between
ethnic,
racial
communities
in
this
city
between
ethnic,
racial
communities
and
Toronto
institutions,
including
the
Toronto
Police
Service.
M
But
we
are
living
at
a
time
when
racism
has
shape
shifted
and
it
has
taken
a
covert
and
insidious
form
which
is
invisible
to
those
of
us
who
are
not
directly
a
did,
buy
it,
for
example,
the
phenomenon
of
racial
profiling,
which
has
been
well
documented
and
illustrated
in
data
from
Toronto
and
Ottawa.
Even
the
United
Nations
Human
Rights
Council
is
troubled
by
what
they
call
extraordinary
over
representation
of
black
individuals
when
it
comes
to
police
use
of
lethal
force
in
Canada.
M
The
urban
alliance
has
supported
the
decision
of
Pride
Toronto
to
ensure
that
the
parade
is
a
safe
place
that
does
not
further
harm
or
traumatize
queer
or
trans
people
of
color
by
asking
TPS
members
wanting
to
march
in
the
parade
to
do
so
as
citizens,
not
as
uniformed
and
armed
officers.
For
those
who
call
it
a
ban,
it
is
inflammatory
and
inaccurate.
M
Let
us
put
it
into
context.
The
request
was
made
as
a
natural
consequence
of
the
growing
mistrust
toward
the
police
based
on
ongoing
targeting
of
black
and
racialized
communities
and
persons
through
such
practices
as
carding
Street
checks
and
the
disproportionate
shooting
and
killing
of
black
and
racialized
individuals
during
police
interactions,
ultimately
signaling
that
black
lives
do
not
matter.
M
We
do
not
for
one
moment
suggest,
but
that
the
Toronto
Police
Services
does
not
have
good,
dedicated
people
doing
work
in
our
communities.
We
see
them.
Many
of
them
are
members
of
the
very
communities
that
have
historically
had
strained
relationships
with
the
police.
This
is
not
about
individuals.
This
is
a
system
at
systemic
issue.
M
We
must
look
at
the
Toronto
Police
as
a
system
and
evaluate
its
actions
and
impact
as
a
systemic
issue.
This
motion
targets
black
lives
matters
and
its
members,
but
it
is
clear
that
they
aren't
the
issue.
This
is
a
distraction.
The
council
shouldn't
use
this
group
as
a
stepping
stone
or
a
device
to
advance
the
ideology
that
at
its
core,
it
is
steeped
in
prejudice.
I'll,.
M
G
You
ma'am
all
right.
Do
we
have
questions
of
this
definite,
all
right,
seeing
no
questions.
I
will.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
patience
and
for
being
here
today.
Miguel
Avila,
oh
I'm,
sorry
I
I.
What
I
forgot
to
do
at
6
o'clock
was
that
get
your
concurrence
to
extend
the
meeting
to
finish
the
agenda
and,
let's
move
by
councillor
Thompson
seconded
all
those
in
favor
opposed
carry.
Thank
you
so
Miguel,
Avila
Miguel.
You
know
the
rules.
It's
five
minutes
and
over
to
you,
yeah.
Q
Thank
you,
I'll
stay
here
since
9:30
a.m.
on
this
morning
and
I've
been
listening
with
a
lot
of
her.
Patience
was
going
on
this
council
society
that
we
are
talking
about
this
issue
and
council
should
not
it
sure
that
it
pay
attention
to
this
device
at
common
commentary
of
racism
and
discrimination
by
councillor
George
immorality.
So
I
will
ask
this
council.
Please
reject
his
motion
and
we
start
to
deal
with
the
real
issues
that
affect
our
versus
our
our
city,
which
is
poverty
and
racism
and.
Q
That's
all
I
had
to
say
please
and
I
hope
that
the
next
motion
that
you
guys
put
together
shows
that
some
concern
for
the
people
who
have
come
and
spend
the
whole
afternoon
here,
in
speaking
on
behalf
of
their
families
and
it's
big
gonna,
be
how
the
children
and
they
I,
demand
that
this
this
this
conversation
comes
to
an
end
today.
Thank
you
very
much.
Gail.
G
Thank
you,
sir.
We
always
appreciate
the
public
coming
here
and
unfortunately,
one
item
is
gonna
be
first
and
another
one's
gonna
be
last
and
some
are
gonna
be
in
between
on
the
agenda
in
terms
of
the
time
it
takes,
but
we
appreciate
you
being
here
and
everybody
else
has
stayed
and
everybody
else
that
was
here
earlier
in
the
day.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
are
the
questions
of
mr.
Avila,
okay,
seeing
none
all
thank
you
very
much.
Derek
Moran.
R
Want
to
say
by
me
speaking
at
this
meeting,
this
shall
not
be
deemed
to
be
in
any
way
my
consent
express
or
implied
in
doing
so
is
fraud.
God
bless
her
majesty
the
queen
and
long
live
Her
Majesty,
the
Queen,
so
I
have
some
good
news
to
say
about
the
police.
I
was
counselor.
Cara
Janice
was
here
at
the
last
board
meeting
as
a
result
of
a
conversation
you
Meritor
was
having
with
chief
Saunders.
R
He
indicated
basically
that
he
has
instructed
or
told
his
officers
that
he
does
not
expect
or
want
them
to
bust
people
for
possession
of
marijuana
any
more
and
I
would
take.
That
goes
along
with
also,
if
you're
walking
down
the
sidewalk-
and
you
know
smoking
on
them
that
they
they
won't
get
busted
either.
So,
that's
to
me,
that's
something.
That's
the
the
police
can
build
upon
because
I
a
matter
that
there,
the
community
out
there
is
being
like.
R
You
know,
just
leave
these
people
alone,
they're
not
harming
anyone,
especially
the
people
that
are
in
a
lot
of
pain.
They
need
to
smoke
that
stuff
to
relieve
their
pain.
So
you
know
I
just
want
a
counselor
ma'am
Aleta
here
he
you
know
he's
been
the
only
council
here
who
not
once
but
twice
unbelievably
has
ever
asked
me
a
question
here
so
I
just
I
just
want
to.
Let
him
know
that
Meritor.
R
You
know
that
back
in
May
I
think
it
was
that
I
brought
up
with
Jerry
Andy
Pringle
I
was
a
barber
from
library
consultation
for
the
transformational
task
force.
Where
Pringle
was
talking
to
me
about
the
Taser
meeting
and
I
corrected
Cheryl
about
the
Taser
meeting.
I
said
that
wasn't
really
a
meeting
about
Tasers.
Oh,
is
a
merit,
or
did
you
want
to
start
the
clock
on
my
my
time.
R
And
I
corrected
chair,
Pringle
and
I
said
you
know
what
that
wasn't
really
a
meeting
about
Tasers.
If
anything,
that
was
an
opportunity
for
people
to
show
up
and
get
it
off
their
chest
about
how
much
they
hate
the
police,
and
it
was
a
long
and
disturbing
night
and
councilor
Michael
Thompson
right
there
was
there
so
I,
don't
know
if
he
wants
to
you
know,
add
anything
at
the
end
of
that.
R
But
what
I
just
said
and
what
what
chair
Pringle
said
to
me
is
he
looked
at
me
and
he
said
you
know
what
I'm
not
going
to
say
you're
wrong
on
that.
So
like
there
were
it's
it's
not
just
black
lives
matter
like
there
were
brown
people
that
night
there
were
white
people
that
night
there
were
Native
people
that
night
that
got
up
and
just
the
anguish
in
their
voice
about
how
they've
been
mistreated
about
the
police.
Sure
there
are
good
police
officers
out
there.
R
You
know
like,
for
instance,
new
deputy
chief
Shawna
Coxon
at
that
city
hall.
Consultation
for
the
transformational
taskforce
admitted
to
me.
Miguel
was
there
that
she
admitted
to
me
that
eventually
she
said
that
in
her
own
way
that,
yes,
the
crown
is
the
surety
for
the
person
we
all
have
so
I
mean
that's
something
that's
of
active
transparency
on
her
part,
and
there
was
a
moment
where
superintendent
Burgin
walked
up
to
a
guy
named
Derek,
George
or
I.
Guess
I
think
you
yeah
I
think
it
was
had
something
to
do
with
some.
R
Maybe
police,
brutality
and
superintendent,
Frank
Bergen
pony
right
at
that
guy
and
said
hey.
If
that
ever
happens
again,
you
come
find
me.
You
hold
me
accountable,
so
I
thought
that
was
rather
stand-up,
a
vogue
of
counselor
superintendent,
Frank
Bergen,
but
unfortunately
meritorious
you
found
out,
as
we
all
found
out
at
the
police
board
meeting
on
Thursday,
there
was
a
rather
rather
ugly
incident
that
apparently
took
place
that
those
bare
legs
there
are
not
of
a
guy
wearing
shorts.
R
R
Community
activist
and
advocate
Deon
Renee,
apparently
as
she
put
it,
of
course,
the
video
hasn't
been
released
yet
to
the
public
to
see
what
went
on
she
was
violently
grabbed
around
throat,
amongst
other
things,
and
taken
down
to
the
ground
seems
like
she
smashed
her
face
against
it
because
she
was
holding
an
ice
pack
up
against
it.
She
came
upstairs
unbelievably
to
do
her
deputations.
You
know
it
was
so
messed
up
about
all
this
one
of
the
deputation
she
spoke
on
merit
or
II
was
advocating
on
behalf
of
the
police.
R
She
even
said
I
can't
believe
after
what
just
happened
to
me,
I'm
still
there
advocating
on
behalf
of
the
police.
So
what
I
would
do?
What
I
would
do
is
call
on
councilor
mammal
eating
counselor
Cara
Janice,
simply
as
an
active
impartiality
to
lend
their
voices
in
supporting
that
the
police
release
the
video
and,
let's
show
what
happened
to
Dionne
Renee,
that
day
on
Thursday
in
police
headquarters,
all.
G
G
Q
Q
They
were
talking
about
a
racism,
one
of
the
cofounders
vertical
Kigali
mused,
that
by
having
white
skin
white
people
are
subhuman.
Please
Allah
gave
me
strength
not
to
cuss,
kill
this
man
and
white
folks
out
there
out
here
today.
Please
please,
please
that's
what
this
individuals
a
tweet
it
I,
don't
know
what
a
lot
of
that's,
not
the
only
the
only
member
of
a
BLM,
a
BL
MTO
that
has
has
mentioned
that
I
support
all
sides
talking.
Q
There
is
a
proper
way
I'm
doing
and
do
it
right
now.
I
fully
support
the
police
and
I
agree
with
you.
Ninety
nine
percent
of
police
officers
are
very
good.
They
have
no
problem
just
because
a
police
of
police
officers
stop.
She
doesn't
mean
they
stopping
you
because
of
the
color.
Your
skin,
the
other
1%
I,
haven't
met
every
Toronto
police
officer
I
like
I
like
some
of
these
people
behind
me,
I'm
not
going
to
generalize
all
police
officers.
Q
I
talked
to
you
about
three
three
grade
officers
in
the
Toronto
Police
Peter,
the
kwinto
Randall
Arsenal's
and
Kurt
Papadopoulos.
They
do
excellent
work,
you
can
fold
them.
You
know
there
should
be
more
talking,
always
vile,
garbage
back
and
forth,
especially
for
paraffin.
These
people,
the
police
chief.
Q
G
Q
Don't
start
to
contact
me,
he
wants
to
me
a
question.
Yeah
yeah,
you
know
I
I,
don't
like
any
group
is
all
completely
generalized
there
they're,
our
chief
is
black.
That's
one
thing
I
think
he
has
constantly
as
BLM
black
eyes
matter,
Toronto
to
to
come
police
acquires
or
meet
them.
They
can't
continuously
said
now.
They
have
accepted
most
of
the
meetings.
Q
Everybody
needs
support
is
a
low
morale
and
you
know
it's
like
I
agree.
I
agree
with
you,
you
know,
I
know
the
great
police
officers,
most
of
them
and
I
want
to
meet
every
single
one
of
them.
They're,
not
racist.
You
know
if
somebody
stops
is
because
99
percent
is
using
a
grammar.
This
one
is
a
hello
not
because
they
were
not
arrested
because
of
the
cocaine.
G
I
Defended
others
that
got
involved
with
their
parade
in
the
Jewish
community,
Jewish
communities
very
upset.
It
was
councillor
mammal
ad.
That
said,
that's
wrong.
We
shouldn't
be
doing
it
and
what
did
they
call
me
homophobic
today?
I
disagree
with
black
lives
matter
and
their
agenda
I
think
that
they
are
disruptive,
I,
think
they're,
the
ones
that
are
are
divisive
in
our
society.
I
I
think
that
most
people
in
the
City
of
Toronto
mister
mayor,
whether
you
want
to
agree
with
me
or
not,
and
whether
you
see
it
or
not,
disagree
with
your
point
of
view
here
and
would
agree
with
mine
that
black
lives
matter
needs
to
be
taken
on
by
City
Hall
and
it
needs
to
stop,
and
there
needs
to
be
leadership
to
stop
that
kind
of
behavior.
You
can't
have
people
insulting
your
Police
Department.
You
can't
have
them
going
after
them.
I
By
doing
what
you're
doing
today,
by
not
voting
for
this
and
by
sending
it
off
to
wherever
you're
going
to
send
it
off
to
is
the
wrong
approach,
and
most
people
in
the
city
Toronto
will
not
like
what
you're
going
to
do
today
and
I
know
that
and
I
think
deep
down
inside.
You
know
that
too
and
you're
hoping
for
the
best,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
a
problem
and
we're
turning
our
heads
to
that
particular
problem.
I
You
can't
have
people
just
take
up
the
streets,
let
them
do
whatever
they
want
and
go
after
police.
Our
police
want
to
do
their
job.
Our
police
were
hoping
that
the
resources
that
we've
taken
away
from
them
weren't
taken
away
from
them.
We
continually
do
it
and
it's
not
just
black
lives
matter
that
that
they're
that
they're,
that
they
feel
bad
with
with
respect
to
how
they're
doing
their
job.
It's
us
too,
because
we
keep
taking
their
resources
away
from
them
and
expecting
them
to
to
protect
the
citizens
of
Toronto.
So
we
can
laugh.
Mr.
I
mayor,
you
could
smile
all
you
like,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
you're,
making
a
mistake
here
and
I
think
that
the
the
the
men
and
women
of
our
police
force
need
to
be
need
to
be
congratulated
and
supported
for
the
hard
work
that
they're
doing,
and
someone
said
earlier
mr.
mayor
that
that
this
is
a
system
figure
out
how
they
they
put.
It
down
the
police
is
that
we
should
be
supporting
or
not
supporting
a
particular
system.
I
No,
it's
not
a
system,
the
human
beings,
they're
people
behind
those
uniforms
and
people
with
emotions
and
feelings
as
well.
I
recall
councillor
bailout
standing
up
in
Council
when
we
were
ready
to
look
at
at
saving
money
with
with
cleaners.
Councillor
Bell
started
to
cry
in
the
council
chamber
because
she
put
a
face
to
every
one
of
those
cleaners.
I
The
system
she
was
talking
about.
She
saw
that
they
were
there
were
human
beings
like
anyone
else.
We
have
had
these
debates
in
internally
continually
in
terms
of
our
staff
and
and
how
we
support
them
or
whether
we
don't
we've
had
these
motions
passed
and
voted
on
before,
but
for
some
reason.
For
some
reason,
this
one
is
touch
a
nerve
and
a
nerve
that
doesn't
exist
on
our
streets
in
Toronto
I
know,
counselor,
counselor
Thompson
has
asked
me
to
stop
and
I
will
I,
don't
think
you
just.
I
A
G
A
Yeah
so
I'm
going
to
have
a
motion
staff
has
that
I'm
moving
to
defer
this
indefinitely
and
I
won't
to
say
much
other
than
to
simply
say
that
we
ought
not
to
pit
groups
against
one
another.
We
are
not
to
use
institutions
and
pit
them
against
our
citizens.
This
is
a
very
careless
and
reckless
approach
to
supposedly
attacking
tackling
a
problem
that
one
perceives
there
are
problems
systemically
that
has
impact
on
everyone
in
this
city.
We
have
a
great
group
of
police
officers
in
this
city.
A
A
War
counsel
would
in
fact
be
inappropriate
and
not
in
the
best
interests
of
being
able
to
bring
parties
together
and
to
address
some
of
the
systemic
issues
that
does
exist
in
this
city,
and
it
isn't
just
the
police
department
that
we
can
point
a
finger
at
it's
bigger
than
that
quite
frankly,
and
I
think
it
has
to
be
understood,
and
so,
while
I
think
that
there
are
efforts
to
villainize
some,
we
ought
not
to
take
that
approach.
Quite
frankly,
no
one
needs
to
be.
A
You
know
villainize
in
this
particular
sense,
I
think
what
we
ought
to
do
is
set
demonstrate
as
we
are
as
Canadians.
We
are
compassionate
in
terms
of
how
we
deal
with
issues
when
we
see
a
problem,
we
call
it
out.
We
try
to
address
the
issues
surrounding
those
particular
problems
when
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
bring
people
together,
we
actually
do
that.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
This
particular
motion
is
actually
not
well
intended
in
that
sense
in
terms
of
bringing
people
together
in
collaborating,
and
so
for
that
reason.
A
Mr.
mayor
I
move
that
we
defer
this
particular
item
indefinitely
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
who
come
out
to
speak.
They
have
spoken
quite
elegantly
with
respect
to
this
particular
issue.
I,
don't
need
to
add
more
to
what
they
have
stated.
It's
very
clear.
It's
on
the
public
record.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
Very
quickly,
just
I
would
like
to
echo
councillor
Thompson's
comments
and
your
comments
that
you
said
at
the
beginning
that
there
is
no
question.
I
have
no
question
that
any
member
of
this
executive
or
a
member
of
Council
doesn't
support
our
police,
our
police
force
and
I'd
like
to
take
the
the
the
chance
to
thank
the
leadership
at
the
police
force
for
the
work
that
is
being
done
with
with
the
transformation
of
our
force,
but
that
are
there
are
issues
and
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
and
people
need
to
be
together.
L
We
need
to
bring
people
together
and
and
I
agree
with
councillor
Thompson
I.
Don't
think
this
motion
would
do
that.
We
need
to
have
the
conversations
we
need
to
get
to
the
roots
of
the
problems
and
bringing
motions
like
this
is
not
going
to
help.
I
think
that
we
need
to
support
the
conversation
we
need
to
make
space
for
the
conversation
to
happen.
That
is,
our
role
is
to
make
sure
that
those
those
issues
are
being
addressed
to
the
root
of
the
problem.
L
We
need
to
put
the
resources
absolutely
to
ensure
that
that
both
these
groups
and
the
police
have
what
it
takes
to
address
these
issues
and
have
the
space
to
have
these
conversations
and
and
I
think
that
we're
heading
that
way
and-
and
if
we
had
this
motion
here
in
front
of
us-
would
not
be
appropriate
or
it
would
not
be
helpful
at
all.
So
thank
you
for
the
motion.
I
will
be
supporting
that
motion.
Thank.
G
You
constable
others
to
speak
well,
I
was
just
reset
the
clock
and
say
a
couple
of
words.
Then
I
honestly
believe,
first
of
all,
the
notion
that
this
committee
that
this
mayor
or
that
the
City
Council
for
that
matter
doesn't
support
the
police
or
any
part
of
it.
I
think
is,
is
grossly
unfair
and
a
gross
misstatement
of
the
reality.
G
First
of
all,
I
am
optimistic
that
we
are
solving
the
problem
of
police
being
excluded.
Something
I
disagreed
with
from
the
Pride
Parade
we're
solving
it.
The
toronto
way
we're
sitting
down
the
police
and
pride
and
they're
in
the
midst
of
doing
it,
and
I'm
absolutely
100%
optimistic
based
on
everything
I've
heard
of
both
discussions
that
that
issue
will
be
resolved
and
they'll
find
a
way
between
the
two
of
them
to
respectfully
have
police
back
in
Pride
and
the
second
one
that
was
made
reference
to
in
the
motion
was
the
SRO.
G
The
student,
the
school
officer,
program
and
I
know
some
of
the
deficit.
The
fact
that
I
stood
there
and
sat
there
at
the
Police,
Services
Board
and
said
I
believed
not
that
the
program
was
perfect,
but
that
I
supported
the
program
and
supported
a
review
of
the
program
because
it
was
ten
years
old
and
I
didn't
rely
on
any
particular
community
organization
or
activist
group.
G
But
I
also
supported
the
program,
because
I
think
it
does
do
good
done
in
the
right
way,
and
so
this
notion
that
this
gets
concocted,
whether
it's
me
or
anybody
else
around
this
table
to
being
that
we're
not
supporting
the
police
when
what
we're
saying
today
is
we're
not
supporting
motion
that
is
meant
to
be
divisive,
that
is
a
deliberate
political
stunt
is,
is
a
complete
misstatement
of
what's
actually
really
going
on
here.
We
support
I
support
the
job
being
done
by
the
police,
there's,
probably
no
single
person
in
this
room.
G
That
has
the
opportunity,
because
I'm
the
mayor
to
tell
individual
police
officers
that
and
to
say
it
to
the
media
more
often
than
I
do,
but
support
does
not
mean
that
you
ignore
issues
that
are
confronting
this
city
and
its
population.
Support
does
not
mean
that
you
don't
embark
upon
and
carry
through
with
difficult
conversations
about
things
that
are
going
to
confront
us
in
the
most
diversity
in
the
world
and
in
one
of
the
most
wonderful
cities
in
the
world.
G
Support
support
means
dealing
with
tough
issues
that
that's
what
you
do
for
your
friends,
your
you
sit
down
with
them
and
discuss
things
that
are
less
than
perfect
and
try
and
address
them.
That's
exactly
what
we
are
doing
with
respect
to
the
instances
that
were
referred
to
in
in
the
preamble
to
the
motion,
which,
as
I
say,
was
most
unhelpful.
G
The
other
thing
that
support
doesn't
mean
is
unending
escalation
of
budgets
and
I
mean
the
notion
that
anybody
would
say
here
has
been,
as
has
been
said
repeatedly
by
our
counsel
colleague,
that
that
resources
are
being
taken
away
when
we're
allocating
a
billion
dollars
to
policing
in
the
city
is
I.
Think
most
of
the
people
out
there
who
are
paying
those
bills
would
find
that
to
be
a
ridiculous
proposition.
G
Two
wrongs
don't
make
a
right
if
they're
de
visite
from
time
to
time,
which
I
would
say
sometimes
they
are
then
I
would
say
two
wrongs
don't
make
it
right,
and
this
motion
to
me
was
divisive.
It
was
deliberately
divisive
within
the
council,
its
division,
divisive
within
the
city.
It's
meant
to
create
divisive
feelings
inside
the
population
of
the
city
and
that
helps
absolutely
nothing
and
to
me
is
inconsistent
with
the
mandate
that
we
are
all
sent
here
to
do,
which
is
to
solve
these
problems.
G
Bring
people
together,
resolve
issues
and
done
yes
within
the
context
of
supporting
the
police,
because
we
do
support
our
police.
We
do
it
in
many
different
ways,
all
of
us
as
individuals
and
the
executive
committee
and
the
council,
and
by
deferring
this
motion
referring
it,
we
are
not
in
any
way
saying
anything
other
than
that
this
was
a
political
stunt
and
it's
not
the
right
way
to
go
about
addressing
serious
police
issues
or
about
expressing
support,
but
for
the
police.
G
So
those
are
my
comments
and
there's
anybody
else
who
wishes
to
speak
now,
it's
the
time,
otherwise
we're
ready
for
the
question,
and
so
we
have
a
motion
that
accounts
to
Thompson
is
put,
of
course,
we'll
put
it
up
on
the
way
you
don't
you
can't
ask
for
one,
but
if
somebody
else
wants
to
sure
why
not
I
mean
there's
no
problem,
it's
just
that.
You
can't
you
don't
remember
the
committee,
but
we'll
have
a
recordable.
That's
super
okay!
So
can
we
just
put
that
motion
up
on
the
part
of
me?
G
E
L
G
Right
we
just
have
a
couple
of
tiny
little
bits
of
business
to
do
here
before
we
wrap
up.
There
is
number
27
point
31,
which
is
the
it's
another
parking
issue,
and
there
was
mr.
barber
was
he's
still
here.
I
didn't
see
whether
he's
still
here.
He
was
down
to
depute
on
that
too.
So
I
guess
he's
gone,
but
what
we
do
want
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
rule.
Where
is
that
no
gun?
G
It's
right
here,
I'm
gonna
rule
that
recommendations,
1
&,
2
of
item
27
31
in
the
letter
from
counselor
Pasternak
we're
dealt
with
as
part
of
item
27
point
11
when
we
had
the
discussion
about
parking
earlier
on,
and
so
that
leaves
only
the
third
recommendation
which,
if
you've
got
it,
turned
up
faster
than
I.
Do
there
we
are.
G
It
only
leaves
the
third
recommendation
here:
City
Council
requests
the
chief
executive
officer,
Toronto
Transit
Commission,
to
hold
public
information
sessions
on
the
plan
to
partial
closure
of
the
Wilson
subway
station
parking
lot,
and
so
are
there
any
questions
of
staff
on
that
there
any
any.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
that?
G
If
not,
then
we'll
simply
call
the
question
on
this
recommendation.
Three
in
item
27
31,
which
is
now
up
on
the
on
the
screen,
we're
ready
for
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
opposed
carry
that
all
the
business
and
Madam
Park.
So
speaking
of
madam
clerk
may
I
just
say
that
Jennifer
hulks
isn't
here
a
lot.
G
I
guess
preceding
me
how
long
doin,
with
the
executive
committee
as
the
clerk
four
and
a
half
years
as
she
has
received
promotion
to
a
new
position,
and
we
congratulate
her
on
that
and
thank
her
for
her
many
years
of
service,
because
I
would
say
that
the
service,
as
a
clerk
of
a
committee
like
this,
that
sits
all
day
and
all
night
is
somebody
taken
in
dog
years,
which
means
four
times.
Seven
you've
been
serving
28
years.
But,
having
said
that,
we're
we're
most
grateful
for
your
service
and
congratulate.
G
You
will
see
you
around
office
you're,
not
going
anywhere
too
far
away
and
Josephine
Archbold
is
going
to
take
over
as
the
clerk
of
the
executive
committee,
and
we
welcome
you
and
extend
our
congratulations
or
condolences,
as
the
case
may
be,
and
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
this
chair,
where
you
are
now
in
the
next
meeting.
So
thank
you.