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Scarborough Community Council, meeting 24, September 6, 2017 - Part 1 of 2
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0:15:42 - Call to order
A
Good
morning,
everyone
just
going
to
call
this
meeting
into
into
order.
It's
September
and
it's
nearly
fall
and
I
hope
that
you
had
a
wonderful
summer,
and
now
it's
true.
We
have
a
few
more
weeks
of
this
enjoyable
weather.
It's
been
such
a
hot,
warm
blistering
summer,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
be
back
here
at
Scarborough,
Community
Council
and
welcome
everybody
back
and
there's
a
few
new
faces
that
we
have
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
we
have
Carly
Hanks
here.
A
Who's
standing
will
now
be
sitting
in
for
Jon
Monday,
who
is
now
retired
and
Carly
will
be
with
us,
probably
til
about
November
and
we'll
have
some
exciting
and
leave
at
that
time.
And
then
we
also
have
our
new
counselor
Jim
Hart
who's,
now
joining
us
and
is
not
new,
really
Jim's
been
a
great
member
of
of
the
city,
really
the
City
of
Toronto
for
years
and
years
so
I'll
let
Jim
just
speak.
B
A
A
There
are
several
timed
items
beginning
at
9:40.
These
are
all
for
defense,
exemptions,
requests
or
fence
exemptions,
so
sc2
24.1
request
for
fence
exemption
34
field,
Avenue
SC,
24.2,
request
for
fence
exemption,
34
tour
de
la
Crescent,
SC
24.3,
request
for
fence
exemptions,
73
Agincourt,
Drive,
SC
24
point
for
a
request
for
fence
exemption,
216,
Island,
Road
and
also
time
for
1030
is
the
SC
24.5
official
plan,
amendment
365
5
Kingston
Road,
which
is
in
Ward
36.
A
So
we
have
the
introduction
enactment
of
general
bills
to
confirm
the
Proceedings
of
community
council
will
be
the
last
items.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
act
and
see
none
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
June
13th
20
17th
meeting
with
Scarborough
Community
Council,
so
moved
councillor
Ansley
all
those
in
favor
opposed
from
that
carries,
and
now
we
will
go
through
the
agenda.
D
D
E
A
A
So
the
first
item
is
this:
is
a
deputy
and
its
request
for
offense
exemption,
34,
horror,
field,
Avenue
and
then
item
number
two
is
request
for
fence
exemptions,
side
and
rear
yards
34,
Tortola,
Crescent,
ducky
tents
on
that
as
well,
SC
24.3
request,
offenses
offense
exemption
pool
enclosure,
rear
yard,
73
Agincourt
drive.
We
have
deputies
on
that
as
well.
A
A
And
again:
SC:
twenty
four
point:
five:
three:
six:
five:
five
Kingston
Road
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
amendment
final
report:
this
one
has
deputy
and
his
times
for
10:30
and
SC.
Twenty
four
point:
six.
This
is
councillor
Hart's
first
motion,
as
he
will
be
putting
forward
a
motion
on
this
one
which
is
43
42,
Lawrence,
Avenue,
East
zoning
amendment
application
preliminary
report:
it's
a
quick
notice
to
expand.
B
E
I'm
sure
I
have
maybe
a
procedural
question
for
you
in
the
clerk,
often
because
there
is
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
considered
an
action
item
or
if
I'm
allowed,
to
move
a
motion
on
it
today,
because
I'd
like
to
move
a
motion
to
amend,
run,
one
of
the
recommendations
so
would
I
have
to
defer
that
to
the
next
meeting.
Yeah
so
defer
defer
this
to
the
next
meeting.
Us
then
that's.
E
E
F
A
B
B
F
A
H
A
D
You,
madam
chair
yeah,
there's
two
parts
to
this.
We
have
to
reopen
a
decision
we
made
and
then
to
change
that
decision
very
quickly.
We
made
the
decision
a
while
back
and
I
had
inadvertently
found
out
afterwards
that
it's
adversely
impacting
a
local
business
on
Kingston
Road.
So
in
discussions
with
them,
the
community
I'm
bringing
this
forward.
It
just
moves
the
parking
restrictions
down
18
meters
and
allows
parking
for
this
business.
So
that's
the
reason.
I
didn't
know
that
when
we,
when
we
move
made
the
decision
so
just
changing
a
little
bit
and.
D
A
F
G
A
A
A
A
E
B
B
E
F
A
E
E
A
E
E
B
A
A
Hi
welcome.
How
are
you
good
morning,
and
so,
if
you
have
not
been
here
before
we
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak
and
some
counselors
may
ask
you
some
questions
after
you
finished
speaking
and
there's
a
clock
right
there
on
the
side
that
I'll
start
your
timer.
Okay.
Thank
you.
B
We
had
hedges,
which
attracted
a
lot
of
spiders,
which
would
end
up
crawling
in
the
house,
and
our
contractor
also
told
us
that
he
maintained
the
height
according
to
the
city's
requirements
and
also
it
has
been
three
years
since
we
built
the
fence
and
no
one
has
complained
since
now,
and
we
have
three
letters
from
our
neighbors
who
said:
they're,
ok
with
the
fence
and
also
we
didn't
take
money
from
any
one
of
our
neighbors.
We
paid
the
whole
fence
on
our
own,
which
cost
us
approximately
$13,000
yep.
A
D
When
you
built
the
fence,
no,
this
is
a
corner
lot
and
we've
dealt
with
corner
Lots
in
the
past.
When
you
built
the
fence,
were
you
aware
or
did
when
did
you
come
to
the
city
to
get
any
kind
of
approvals?
Were
you
aware
that
in
fact
you
were
in
contravention
or
or
what
was
that
process
when
you
decided
to
build
the
fence
and
on
that
again,
I'm
assume
you
had
a
contractor
do
this?
Did
the
contractor
mention
to
you
that,
in
fact,
this
is
in
contravention
of
city
bylaws,.
B
I
just
called
them,
and
they
told
me
as
long
as
it's
in
our
property,
it's
okay
to
Bolivians
and
my
contractor
told
me
it
would
be
fine
and
he
knows
everything
about
it,
and
this
would.
This
is
our
second
property
ID
and
I
didn't
made
any
fence
before
so
I'm,
not
worried
about
this
height
and
anything
so.
B
D
From
your
perspective,
you
thought
you
were
building
a
fence
that
was
fine,
yeah
and
I
did
go
to
your
property
a
little
while
back
and
I
did
discuss
any
option
or
opportunity
to
to
compromise,
and
and
and
would
you
be
willing
in
the
event
that
well,
would
you
be
willing
to
look
at
trying
to
see
where
there'd
be
a
compromise,
to
bring
the
fence
down
in
certain
parts
of
the
yard
and
keep
it
a
little
higher
and
others,
because
it's
a
corner
a
lot?
Sometimes
we
make
exceptions.
D
B
D
D
L
You,
madam
chair
I'm,
through
you
to
the
Deputy,
thank
you
for
coming
today
to
tell
us
the
difficult
that
you
have
when
you
hire
your
contractor.
Did
you
make
sure
if
he
was
a
reputable,
did
you
make
sure
if
he
was
licensed
or
you
just
hired
somebody
that
somebody
recommended
and
was
a
fly-by-night
contractor?
Somebody.
B
E
You,
madam
chair
and
through
you,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
in
today
and
I'm
I,
just
want
to
clarify
because
I
look
at
the
the
photographs
and
you
have
a
very
beautiful
home,
the
fence
that
you
built
I'll,
call
it
your
front
door,
not
where
the
driveway
is,
but
on
the
call
at
the
front
of
your
house.
How
tall
is
that
fence.
E
E
A
M
M
That's
considered
the
front
yard
if
you
drew
a
line
parallel
to
that
wall
facing
or
field
Avenue,
any
portion
of
the
fence
that
abuts
the
street
and
that
location
is
considered
a
fence
in
the
front
yard
and
can't
exceed
a
height
than
1.2
meters.
The
other
issue
that
is
not
in
compliance
with
the
bylaw
is
the
fact
that,
when
in
proximity
to
the
front
line
with
respect
to
a
driveway,
you
know
the
fence
has
to
be
of
a
construction
where
you
can
see
through
the
fence,
and
in
this
case
you
cannot
see
through
the
fence.
M
So
you've
got
a
driveway
that
is
on
the
horse
field,
adjacent
or
field
property
at
number
36,
which
is
in
within
2.4
meters
of
that
fence.
So,
in
a
lot
of
cases
that
causes
a
sight
line
obstruction
in
this
particular
case
because
of
the
size
of
the
city
boulevard.
There
isn't
really
that
much
of
a
sight
line
obstruction
unless,
of
course,
the
city
chose
to
put
a
sidewalk
in
there
or
widen
the
road.
F
L
A
L
M
L
M
G
M
G
G
So
the
issue
now
is
to
try
to
either
mitigate
and/or,
allow
the
height
with
respect
to
that
area
in
terms
of
finding
a
solution
either
to
reduce
the
height
itself.
But
you
still
have
the
issue
around
visibility.
Correct
in
terms
of
you,
don't
have
an
opening.
You
don't
have
gaps
in
the
board
of
board
on
board
fence
that.
G
M
M
H
M
M
H
H
H
A
A
M
M
A
M
M
A
And
I
know
that
you're
not
the
contractor,
but
as
counselor
Janice
was
saying
if
this
is
something
where
they
could
have
or
should
have
had
a
or
if
they
do
have
a
business
license,
and
they
did
not
comply
is
something
that
the
owners
could
go
back
and
have
that
contract
to
rectify.
At
the
at
the
contractors.
Cost.
A
D
What
I'm,
what
I'd
like
to
do
and
I
do
empathize
with
the
the
residents
who
you
know,
we've
seen
this
at
this
table
before
where
they
get
advice
and
they
put
up
a
fence
assuming
that
it
was
fine,
so
I
when
I
did
meet
with
them.
They
really
felt
that
they
put
up
a
fence
that
was
legitimate.
It
was
legal.
We
know
it
wasn't.
D
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
look
at
an
opportunity
to
see
if
there's
a
compromise
we
have
in
the
past,
when
you're
looking
at
a
corner
lot
looked
at
done,
some
exemptions
to
figure
out,
you
know,
and
it
really
has
to
do
with
where
you
define
the
front
of
the
house
and
the
side
of
the
house.
Generally
in
the
front
of
a
house,
you
have
a
driveway
which
comes
out
at
the
front
of
the
house.
D
In
this
particular
instance,
you
don't
you
actually
have
a
driveway,
that's
at
the
side
of
the
house,
and
they
have
spent
it's
really
good
fence.
They
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
it,
but
what
they
have
done
in
in
putting
in
this
configuration,
which
in
many
ways
is
sort
of
like
a
fortress
around
the
house.
Now
we
don't
allow
fortresses
around
houses
in
in
in
Toronto
in
this
area,
and
it
really
is,
it
should
not
be
allowed.
D
So,
if
I,
if
I,
had
to
make
the
determination
to
decision
today,
I'd
probably
not
support
staffs
recommendation,
but
I'd
like
to
go
back
and
see
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
figure
out
a
way
to
look
at,
you
know
trying
to
comply
or
an
exam
in
some
respects
so
that
where
they
have
right
now
is
the
front
of
the
house
that
is
designated
the
front
of
the
house.
They
have
deemed
that
the
way
they
have
done
it
as
the
back
yard,
so
they
have
all
they
put
in
a
wonderful
pergola.
D
They
have
a
lot
of
sitting
space,
so
that's
where
that's
actually
technically,
where
they
sit,
and
that
is
their
backyard,
even
though
it
is
technically
their
front
yard.
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
to
figure
out
a
way
and
I'll
do
this
by
the
next
meeting.
To
see,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
do
some
sort
of
an
exemption
to
look
at,
you
know
potentially
that
the
that
would
would
be
what
the
backyard
would
be
and
the
side
of
the
house
would
be
the
front
yard.
D
We
have
done
those
exemptions
in
the
past
trying
to
be
a
little
more
flexible
with
the
residents
with
a
corner
house.
So
that's
my
that's.
What
I'd
like
to
do
I
will
come
back
to
council
in
another
month.
We
may
or
may
not
come
to
a
resolution,
but
I
think
I
would
like
to
have
that
opportunity
to
just
work
with
the
the
applicants
or
the
residents
and
staff
to
see
if
there's
a
compromise,
wonderful.
A
E
You,
madam
chair
I,
will
support
the
local
councillor
for
the
deferral
I
think
we
have
a
young
family
who
has
obviously
invested
some,
probably
their
life
savings
into
buying
a
house
and
making
a
really
good
investment
and
I.
Think
they're
gonna
be
a
very
welcome
addition
to
the
community.
I
think
they've
already
been
there
for
a
while,
so
I'm
sure
they
know
how
great
the
neighborhood
is
and
I
think
they're
there.
This
is
the
curse
of
the
corner
lot.
It
is
an
awkward
place
to
be
I.
E
Think
the
council
are
working
with
the
with
the
owners
can
come
up
with
something
that
maybe
hopefully
we
can
all
support,
but
I.
Certainly
look
at
this
footprint
and
I
can't
remember
what
the
adjective
you
used
is
describe
it
as
a
castle
or
a
fortress.
A
fortress
I
would
not
to
be
uncomplimentary
to
the
owners,
but
I
would
I
would
describe
it
a
little
more
as
prison
like
I.
Could
you
imagine
if
every
house
on
this
block
did
the
exact
same
thing
as
this
family?
E
You
would
walk
down
a
hundred
metres
long
with
a
6-foot
high,
solid
row
of
invisible
or
not
see-through
fences
you'd,
never
see
your
neighbors
you'd,
never
see
their
kids
you'd,
never
see
their
dog,
you
wouldn't
know
if
they
even
have
a
garden.
Maybe
this
is
a
you
know
what?
Maybe
this
is
a
Trillium
award
garden,
that's
one
of
the
best
gardens
and
the
whole
of
Scarborough,
but
nobody
knows
so
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
lower
fence
Heights
along
front
yards
is
so
that
places
don't
look
uninviting.
E
They
don't
look
prison
like
that
people
actually
do
wave
at
their
neighbors
when
they
go
by
they
mix
and
mingle
with
people.
So
I
have
sympathy
for
the
family,
because
the
contractor
really
did
them
a
disservice.
The
contractor
built
something
that
we
all
know
nobody
had
to
even
read
the
report
to
know
that
this
was
not
appropriate.
The
contractor
I'm
sure
knew
it
was
inappropriate
unless
this
was
the
first
fence
that
he
had
ever
built
in
his
entire
life,
but
I
don't
think
so.
E
L
Jerry
I
sympathize
with
the
owners
and
I
take
them
for
the
word
that
they
did
phone
city
staff.
It's
unfortunate.
They
don't
remember
who
they
spoke
to.
However,
something
has
to
be
said
out
loud
about
the
contractors.
We
have
all
kinds
of
contractors
in
in
Scarborough
going
around
telling
people
don't
worry
about
the
work
it's
covered.
We
can
do
this
and
we
can
do
that.
I
had
contractors
that
command
and
take
support
and
walls
down.
L
I
had
contractors
that
put
up
fences
and
I
find
that
the
responsibility
is
certainly
on
the
contractor
and
they
have
to
make
sure
that
they
give
the
proper
advice
to
the
house
owner.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
onus
stems
on
the
property
owner
to
make
sure
that
number
one,
the
contractor
that
they
hire
has
that
well
I
mean
has
that
is
designated.
You
know
licensed
by
the
city
is
a
reputable
individual
and
they
just
don't
hire.
L
Somebody
that
just
comes
to
you
know
gives
them
on
a
lower
code
in
order
to
do
the
work
and
they
end
up
in
this
mess.
I
will
support
the
deferral.
However,
I
will
be
very
hard-pressed
to
support
anything
that
our
staff
do
not
approve
of
so
I'm
gonna.
You
know
I,
let
the
local
councillor
working
it,
but
there's
no
excuse
and
I
mean
no
excuse
for
any
any
house
owner.
That
does
not
do
due
diligence
and
does
not
talk
to
staff.
Does
not
take
staffs
name
down.
L
Would
it
be
three
one
one
or
you
know,
or
the
local
by
law
officers
and
gets
themselves
in
that
predicament
and
there's
no
excuse
for
any
house
owner
that
does
not
ask
the
contractor
to
provide
them
with
their
their
licensing
that
they
have
from
the
city
of
Toronto
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
noted
and
make
sure
that's
directive.
All
there's
too
many
contractors
out
there
that
are
flying
around
and
putting
people
good
people
in
jeopardy
like
these
people
are
it's
a
real
shame.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
So
in
saying
that
this
is
councillor,
Crawford's
deferral
motion
that
consideration
of
the
item
be
deferred
until
its
meeting
on
October
2017
2017,
all
those
in
favor
opposed
and
that
carries,
and
so
that's
been
deferred
and
so
you'll
be
working
with
councillor
Crawford
to
try
to
rectify
the
situation.
Thank
you
and
so
we're
almost
upon
1030,
which
means
that
in
about
two
minutes
we'll
be
moving
to
a
timed
item.
G
Madam
chair,
we
have
a
time
item
in
additionally,
which
is
SC
24.2,
which
was
scheduled
for
9:40
a
long
with,
though
the
matter
we
just
dealt
with
the
applicant
has
indicated
that
she
and
her
family
member
has
to
leave,
and
so
just
wonder
if
we
can
just
follow
the
agenda
and
deal
with
that,
because
while
we
do
have
a
10:30,
we
still
haven't
finished
the
940.
Yes,.
A
Okay,
that's
true,
and
so
we'll
continue
with
that,
and
so
we'll
move
yeah,
okay,
great
and
so
that
one
is
SC
24.2
its
request
for
fence
exemptions,
side
in
rear
yards
34
toward
L
Crescent,
and
that's
encounter
Thompson's
word
and
their
speaker
with
more
tea
session,
which
is
the
owner
chin.
This
chin.
B
B
G
C
O
G
B
K
B
G
Addition
of
the
lattice
is
that
correct.
Yes,
okay,
now,
you've
indicated
to
me
when
we
spoke,
you
had
some
concern
about
the
safety
of
yourself
and
you've,
just
expressed
to
the
form
about
concern
about
your
grandchildren
and
so
on.
There
are
a
couple
of
young
people
across
the
the
road
from
where
you
reside.
Is
that
correct
couple
of
young
boys?
Yes,
oh.
C
B
B
G
B
G
N
G
B
G
Thank
you,
and,
and
just
one
final
question
speaker.
There
are
no
sight
line
issues
as
it
relates
to
your
backyard.
We
just
discuss
a
fancy
matter.
A
moment
ago.
There
were
issues
around
sight
lines.
There
are
no
vehicles
associated
with
respect
to
your
backyard.
It's
just
simply
your
backyard.
Okay
and
again,
your
neighbor
has
no
problem.
Your
neighbor
is
adjacent
to
your
property.
She
has
no
real
problem
with
the
issues
that
correct.
G
O
O
A
G
G
M
D
J
G
G
H
G
Complaints:
okay,
okay,
based
on
your
professional
opinion,
and
your
experience
here,
have
you
seen
other
types
of
structure
similar
to
this,
where
there
is
a
fence,
that's
regulation
or
just
under
the
regulated
height
and
then
an
additional
component
part
of
a
lattice
piece
being
attached?
Have
you
seen
that
in
your
experience?
Yes,
I.
M
G
And
has
this
body
provided
those
exemptions
based
on
a
lattice
and
fence
that
regulated
height
in
the
past?
Yes,
would
it
be
a
real
stretch
if
we
were
to
approve
this
particular
fence
and
provide
an
exemption
for
this
resident?
Would
there
be
any
safety
issues?
Will
there
be
any
real
concerns
on
your
part
and
based
on
your
professional
experience,
I.
M
M
M
It's
very
hard
for
me
to
say
counselor
with
respect
to
that
matter
of
the
young
boys
living
across
the
street.
I,
don't
know
the
allegation
is
they're
standing
up
front
and
throwing
materials
from
the
sidewalk
or,
if
they're,
in
going
on
to
adjacent
property
owners
property
and
throwing
it
over
I
I.
Really
don't
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
answer
that
question?
What's.
G
G
She
is
a
the
property
owner.
She
has
lived
at
the
address
for
some
time.
I
do
know
her.
I
know
her
neighbors
I
know
all
the
people
in
the
street.
Actually
in
the
area,
there
are
no
concerns
from
the
immediate
neighbors
and
then
beyond.
The
property
is
and,
as
you
can
see
by
the
photos
here,
it's
nicely
tucked
in
at
the
very
back.
G
G
This
is
not
an
unusual
situation
within
the
community,
in
that
you
have
the
fence
and
fencing
that
are
at
regulated
height
and
then
there
are
additional
attributes
that
are
added
which
some
are
decorative
in
nature,
and
there
is
a
view
that
I
don't
necessarily
100%
that
it
adds
additional
element
of
safety
and
security
and
so
on.
But
nonetheless
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
applicant's
neighbor
to
talk
to
her
about
she's.
G
Also,
a
single
member
senior
member
of
the
community,
who
has
no
real
concerns
about
the
offense
and
she's,
just
simply
wanted
to
ensure
that
there
were
no
construction
issues
as
it
related
to
the
the
installation
of
a
fence.
Now
I'm,
not
a
professional
fence,
viewer
or
a
sitter
or
I,
don't
have
the
ability
to
review,
but
from
the
naked
eye
it
seemed
everything
was
structurally
okay,
but
I
don't
profess
to
be
an
expert
in
this
particular
area.
I've
had
and
all
of
us
have
had
many
opportunities
to
examine
and
visit
fence.
G
G
G
Exemptions
have
not
dealt
with
those
exemptions
because
there
have
been
no
complaints
and
so
on.
So
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
we
ought
to
allow
and
so
for
those
reasons,
I
am
supporting
and
moving
the
motion
to
grant
the
the
exemption
and
staff
I
want
to
compliment
the
staff
they're
doing
their
job
according
to
our
rules.
G
But
that's
part
of
why
we
are
here
to
examine
these
things
and
to
use
a
level
of
reasonableness
to
say
whether
or
not
this
is
something
that
contravenes
sort
of
a
good
nature
of
the
community
community
standards
and
so
on.
It
doesn't
have
a
negative
impact
implications
to
that
I
submit
to
you
that
it
does
not
in
fact,
there's
an
enhancement.
There
are
people
investing
in
their
properties
and
so
on,
and
this
isn't
an
issue
around
safety
or
secure
in
terms
of
sight
lines,
d
or
issues
relating
to
that.
A
A
Okay,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
continue
on
through
the
agenda.
We
have
two
more
offense
exemptions
to
deal
with
and
then
on
to
SC
twenty
four
point:
five,
which
is
three
six:
five:
five
Kingston
Road
the
next
one
on
the
agenda
is
SC.
Twenty
four
point:
three
request
for
fence
exemption,
pool,
enclosure,
rear
yard.
Seventy
three
Asian
court
drive-
and
this
is
Najib
jury,
which
is
the
owner.
L
P
B
Looks
good,
we
did
it
proper,
you
requested
to
put
a
camera
higher
and
it
should
be
okay.
I
mean
it's
up
to
you,
guys
to
they
say
yes
or
if
we
need
to
do
any
other
things
to
it.
We're
ready
to
do
it,
but
it's
sitting
in
concrete,
like
any
railings
or
like
any
post,
would
go
in.
I
have
no
issues
with
it.
F
Now
you
saying
that
the
post
got
misty
two
points
that
did
not
meet
the
requirement.
One
was
that
the
post
be
embedded
to
adapt.
No,
but
I
visited
you.
I
noticed
that
they
were
bolted
onto
the
concrete.
Is
the
concrete,
continuous
concrete
is
continuance?
Yes,
it's
not
slabs
that
we
are
talking
about
this.
F
B
B
M
Through
you,
madam
chair
I,
don't
know
how
well
you
can
see
this
drawing,
but
it's
a
survey
of
the
property
which
shows
the
property
boundaries,
the
location
of
the
buildings
on
the
property
and
the
location
of
the
pool,
the
sight
line
issue
in
our
in
chapter
4,
4/7
Toronto
missile
code.
It
talks
about
having
visibility
of
the
area
of
the
pool
capable
of
being
filled
with
water
from
the
main
living
areas
in
the
home.
On
this
particular
property.
There's
a
change
in
grade.
It
goes
up
higher
in
the
backyard.
M
So,
when
you're
on
the
main
floor
of
the
house,
you
can't
actually
see
the
surface
of
the
pool.
So
that
is
why
there
is
the
one
violation
to
our
dialogue.
The
second
one
is,
as
indicated
previously,
the
construction
of
the
fence,
our
bylaw
details,
typical
fence
construction,
your
typical
fence,
you
know,
embedded
in
the
ground,
900
millimeters
in
concrete.
In
this
particular
case.
M
As
a
deputy
had
indicated,
it's
constructed
more
as
a
guard
that
you
would
find
on
a
concrete
balcony,
for
example,
so
it
doesn't
meet
with
the
language
in
our
bylaw
and
it
is
the
4th
that
so-called
4th
fence
that
is
protecting
occupants
of
the
building
from
the
pool.
It's
not
offense,
protecting
adjacent
properties,
individuals
from
the
pool.
M
Through
you,
madam
chair,
yes,
principally,
the
construction
requirements
are
with
respect
to
climb
ability
and
the
loads
on
that
fence.
If
someone
was
to
try
and
climb
it,
naturally
there's
other
natural
environmental
factors
as
well,
the
wind
loads
and
so
forth,
which
wouldn't
really
apply
in
this
case,
there's
an
open
fence
construction.
F
M
Like
I
indicated
are
by
law,
so
minimum
construction
standards
and,
of
course
it
can't
take
into
account
all
the
different
types
of
constructions,
methods
and
standards
of
fences.
So
it
just
gives
you
the
basic
ones,
and
that
if
somebody
wants
to
deviate
from
that,
then
unfortunately
they
have
to
request
an
exemption
to
do
so.
At
this
point,
I've.
F
F
You
had
to
put
something
else
in
front
between
the
wall
and
the
pool,
and
this
is
based
on
all
technology,
whereby
you
don't
have
cameras
of
the
same
quality
where
we
have
now
where
by
you
can
deck
motion
and
it
lets
you
on
your
cell
phone
now.
How
often
is
some
somebody
at
home
there's
monitoring
the
pool
all
the
time
so
with
a
motion?
F
A
I
think
we
know
option
two.
If
everybody
is
reading
it,
it's
okay,
so
counselor
leaves
moving
option
two,
which
is
to
grant
the
application
and
that's
for
the
property
owner
your
owner
of
73
Agincourt
drive
for
the
existing
pool,
enclosure
fence
construction
and
the
restricted
visibility
of
the
pool
located
in
the
rear
yard
without
conditions.
A
So
all
those
in
favor.
Oh,
you
want
recorded
vote,
okay
and
all
those
in
favor
recorded
vote,
councillor,
Thompson,
councillor,
Kelly,
councillor,
heart
councillor,
Shan,
Council,
early
counselor,
Holland,
councillor,
Crawford
and
councillor
to
bare
maker
and
opposed
and
councillor
Ansley,
and
so
that
passes,
and
so
that's
granted.
If
I
see
the
applicant.
Where
is
there
it's
granted?
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Yeah
this
is
this
is
welcome
to
the
fence
club
to
councilor
heart,
and
so
today
we
have
four
speakers
on
this
item
and
the
first
speaker
up
today
is
Derek
Cassady
and
just
if
anybody
else
does
wish
to
speak,
the
clerk
is
down
here
and
you
can
register
and
the
next
one's
up
will
be
Carmela,
martynuk,
Tiger,
Lau
and
Christine
Lau
and
mr.
Cassidy.
Thank
you
and
you've
probably
seen
how
it
works
here.
You
have
five
minutes
to
speak
and
the
timers
at
the
side.
Thank
you.
Earning
counselors.
I
My
name
is
Derek
Cassidy
I'm,
the
homeowner
at
two
and
six
Island
Road
and
I'm.
Also
the
person
who
my
wife
and
I
we
applied
for
the
exemption
at
our
property.
This
won't
take
much
of
your
time.
This
fence
was
originally
built
at
the
request
of
the
neighbors
they
wanted
fence
were
in
the
intention
of
privacy.
I
I
lived
there
a
bit
longer
with
them,
never
really
had
the
desire
for
a
fence,
but
was
happy
to
build
one
I
thought
it'd
be
good
for
our
family
as
well,
because
now
we
have
two
young
daughters,
one
year
old
and
a
six
year
old,
so
I
thought
it'd
be
nice.
We
live
on
a
busy
street
Island
Road,
so
the
backyard
is
really
early
a
place
for
privacy.
My
professional
background,
a
medic
in
the
Canadian
Forces
and
firefighter
municipal
fighter
fighter
in
the
city
of
Markham.
I
So
you
know
I
I
also
like
to
provide
for
the
community
and
naturally
I
like
to
follow
the
rules
being
in
the
Canadian
Forces.
So
when
I
also
very
thorough,
so
I
looked
into
the
vial
of
requirements,
I
saw
that
had
to
be
built
within
two
meters,
so
I
told
the
contractor
and
made
sure
you
know
that
it
was
built
within
two
meters.
What
I
wasn't
able
to
interpret
from
to
bylaw
and
what
really
caught
me
off-guard,
when
I
got
the
notice
of
violation.
I
Was
that
because
of
the
the
slope
of
the
hill
and
I
have
a
retaining
wall,
this
put
the
fence
over,
so
the
fence
is
just
under
two
meters,
but
because
of
the
the
grading
of
the
street,
which,
in
my
property,
which
I
can't
control
this.
This
is
what
puts
it
over,
not
the
fence
itself,
so
I'm,
a
very
conscientious
homeowner.
This
retaining
wall
is
well
when
I
first
moved
into
the
house
seven
years
ago,
is
starting
to
collapse
and
soon
after
a
portion
of
it
did
collapse,
I
replaced
it
with
a
new
retaining
wall.
I
It
was
a
very
large
investment
cost,
approximately
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
I've
done
many
other
home
upgrades.
Since
my
intention
is
to
always
create
a
very
structurally
strong
property
and
a
very
aesthetically
pleasing
property.
Landscaping
is
one
of
my
personal
hobbies
and
interests.
So
if
we
were
to
see
my
house
you'll
see
that
I
take
very
good
care
of
it,
the
fence
itself,
you
know
six
by
six
posts.
They
go
four
feet
into
the
ground.
The
boards
themselves
are
inch
and
a
half
thick
their
tongue
and
groove
my
father
who's
here
as
well.
I
I
I
have
a
letter
of
support
from
a
neighbor
on
both
sides
of
me,
the
neighbor
to
the
rear
of
me,
the
neighbor
across
the
street
from
me
and
the
neighbor
two
doors
over
from
me,
who
all
feel
that
it
not
only
is
beautiful,
but
it
it
adds
to
the
neighborhood
and
they're
happy
with
how
it
exists.
This
is
all
I
really
have
to
say.
So.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Also
on
the
note
of
additional
speakers.
There's
only
one
additional
speaker
today
and
that's
my
one
neighbor
Carmela.
B
I
So
you
know
I'm
very
detail-oriented,
so
I
I
did
check
the
bylaw
and
I
looked
and
I
saw
that
it
had
to
be
in
the
requirements
of
two
meters.
You
know,
I
was
there
when
the
fence
was
being
constructed
to
me
to
make
sure
it
was
being
with
it
built
within
two
meters
and
as
I
mentioned,
I
wasn't
able
to
interpret
from
how
the
bylaw
was
read
in
that
the
the
slope
of
the
street
and
the
retaining
walls
become
an
issue
and
add
to
the
total
height.
I
So
it
was
upsetting
to
me
because
I
like
to
follow
the
rules
and
I'm
not
looking
to
break
any
rules,
but
unfortunately
reducing
the
hi
defense
of
the
fence
takes
away
the
whole
purpose
of
the
fence,
which
is
the
privacy,
and
this
is
the
only
space
I
mean
my
young
family
have
to
spend
their
time.
That's
my
only
question.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
B
A
B
My
garden,
our
gardens
meet
I
am
further
up
the
hill,
and
definitely
it
is
Highland
Road
slopes
right
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
street
is
the
Rouge
River,
so
their
property,
in
terms
of
your
front
yard,
can
be
lower
than
your
back
yard
and
even
in
your
garden
in
the
back,
it's
at
various
heights
as
well.
Thank.
A
B
M
C
B
Quickly,
as
I
always
will
be
just
wanted
to
say
to
mr.
caste
I
was
out
at
his
property
last
week.
He
built
a
fabulous
fence,
it
looks
terrific,
his
whole
property
looks
terrific.
He
went
above
and
beyond
as
I
think
most
residents
do
check
the
bylaw
and
nowhere
in
the
bylaw
does
it
get
so
specific
that
it
talks
about
building
fences
on
top
of
retaining
walls.
He
did
not
build
this
intentionally
in
violation
of
the
bylaw
and
I
move
to
grant
the
application.
Okay.
A
Thank
you
yeah,
thank
you,
and
so
that
takes
care
of
all
the
fence,
exemptions
and
we're
moving
on
to
SC
24.5,
which
is
three
six:
five:
five
Kingston
Road
official
plan,
amendment,
zoning
amendment
and
zoning
amendment
and
final
report-
and
this
is
statutory
under
the
Planning
Act,
and
there
are
a
number
a
list
of
speakers
today
and
I
just
want
to
know.
If
the
applicant
is
here
today.
A
Q
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
their
staff
report
because
they're
very
thorough.
In
their
report,
we
worked
with
staff
for
over
two
years
to
come
up
with
a
design
that
meets
all
of
the
city's
opie
policies
and
criteria
for
a
project.
The
planning
staff
report
contains
a
very
thorough
and
comprehensive
analysis
of
the
proposal
arriving
at
the
conclusion
that
this
development
meets
all
of
the
Opie
policies,
guidelines
and
planning,
principles
for
design
and
land
use.
Q
Overall,
this
development
will
upgrade
Kingston
Road,
it's
a
nine
story,
mid
rise,
apartment
building,
condominium
apartment,
building,
designed
to
be
very
attractive
and,
frankly,
most
of
the
people
who've
purchased.
Units
in
this
building
are
retirees
many
from
Scarborough.
It's
a
significant
investment
in
the
community.
It
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
community,
providing
an
attractive
housing
option
for
residents
who
are
downsizing
and
want
to
stay
in
this
area.
Q
Again,
most
of
the
purchasers
or
retirees
that
live
in
Scarborough
now
the
mid
rise
height
is
appropriate.
As
you
can
see
in
your
report.
All
of
the
sides
from
all
sides
it
meets
the
angular
plane,
it's
below
the
angular
plane.
The
development
is
sufficiently
separated
from
the
neighborhood,
it
doesn't
abut
any
residential
Lots.
The
property
has
roads
all
around
it.
Q
E
E
Q
Q
Q
E
E
E
Q
E
E
E
Q
E
You
could
build
a
25
story:
hotel,
yes,
and
then
we
would
all
have
a
debate
about
what
is
residential
because
they
could
lease
out
those
apartment.
Units
I
mean
hotel
units
as
well,
but
we'll
get
into
all
that
okay,
but
so
you
have
a
legal
right
to
go
as
high
as
you
want,
but
because
you
want
residential
you're
coming
down
to
9
storeys
correct.
D
D
What's
designation
of
this
site,
it's
designated
neighborhoods,
it's
designated
neighborhood
and
and
generally
when
something's
designated
neighborhood.
You
would
assume
that
you
know
it
would
fit
in
with
the
the
local
neighborhood
which
is
and
behind
this
it
is
all
residential,
so
I
think
well
and
we'll
hear
from
the
community
when
they
come
down
in
opposition
to
this
is
that
they
because
it's
designated
neighborhood,
they
feel
that
this
should
be
no
more
than
say
four
stories
or
town
homes
similar
to
what's
beside
there,
so
that
that
is
their
contention,
that
this
is
designated
neighborhood
and
I.
D
D
And
and
and
that's
where
I
think,
when
the
challenges
we
have-
and
we
will
start
hearing
that
today
on
Howard's
own
how
its
designated
and
the
different
Avenue
studies
that
there
there's
a
lot
of
different
I,
guess,
rules
that
were
trying
to
apply
here
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
challenges
with
the
community
is
this
is
designated
as
neighborhood
and
they
would
like
to
keep
it
as
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
G
Through
you
to
the
speaker
had
an
opportunity
a
couple
weeks
ago
to
drive
around
that
area,
back
I
was
showing
the
High
Commissioner
of
Canada
to
India
and
his
wife.
The
whole
guild
old,
Scarborough
and
I
recall,
seeing
a
number
of
he
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
a
number
of
sort
of
high-rise
buildings
in
the
general
vicinity.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
G
R
Q
G
F
G
Activities
right,
I'm,
just
trying
to
get
my
bearing
in
terms
of
so
the
issue
that
you've
raised,
that
some
of
the
residents
have
are
around
traffic
and
a
nine-story
would
have.
You
I
believe
that
the
report
says
your
ninety
nine
unit
dwellings
and
how
many
vehicles
are
you
planning
for
as
part
of
that
development?
How
many
parking
spaces
will
you
have
on
that
site?.
Q
A
A
J
Also
a
a
professional
land
use,
planner
I've,
been
so
for
over
20
years
and
I
don't
come
here
in
an
official
capacity
I'm
here
as
a
resident,
a
neighborhood
neighbor
in
the
area
and
I'm
here
in
a
sense
because
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
the
development
I
support
the
development
I'm,
certainly
supportive
of
development,
but
I'm
concerned
about
some
of
the
vitriol
around
this
development.
That's
come
from
some
of
the
local
residents,
the
most
egregious
of
which
is
calling
this
high-rise.
This
is
not
high-rise.
That's
a
misnomer!
This
is
a
mid-rise
development.
J
So
I
want
everyone
to
understand
that
I'm
I
support
the
development
because
it
provides
the
type
and
mix
of
housing
that
I
think
is
appropriate
for
the
area.
In
fact,
my
wife
and
I
are
thinking
of
downsizing,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
this
allows,
the
kind
of
transition
in
place
that
that
we
would
certainly
look
at,
and
we
are
looking
at
it
seriously,
but
beyond
that,
it
also
provides
the
type
of
housing
that
my
son,
for
example,
who's
twenty-seven
years
old,
want
to
take
advantage
of.
J
He
doesn't
want
to
leave
Scarborough,
he
doesn't
want
to
go
downtown.
He
doesn't
want
to
go
to
North
York.
He
doesn't
want
to
go
east,
he
wants
to
stay
in
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
development
that
allows
him
to
do
that.
Allows
him
to
break
into
the
crazy
housing
market
in
Toronto
and
stay
in
the
neighborhood,
and
my
wife
and
I
are
just
thrilled
are
thrilled
about
it.
J
J
Think
it's
good
planning
and
I
would
hope
that
you
endorse
it
and
I
will
leave
you
with
one
quote
from
plan
Canada's
monthly,
this
month's
plan
Canada,
and
it
talks
about
the
idea
of
housing-
and
it
says
planners-
have
an
important
role
to
play
in
how
we
think
we
think
continue
to
create
a
more
equitable
housing
system
along
both
income
and
generational
lines.
To
do
nothing
is
to
accept
that
the
presently
imbalance
status
quo
is
desirable.
N
J
A
R
Morning,
Madame,
chair
counselors
and
staff,
my
name
is
Rob
Burrage
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Scarborough
Village
Community
Association
I'm,
one
of
the
presenters
this
morning,
they'll
be
sharing
desires
from
the
residents
of
our
neighbourhood
regarding
36:55,
Kingston,
Road,
the
Official
Plan
amendment
and
the
zoning
amendment
final
report,
I'd
like
to
first
take
this
occasion
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
The
completed
petitions
from
the
signed
community
signed
community
residents
are
not
in
favor
of
this
staff
report
presented
today
is
overwhelming
for
the
record.
There
are
1062
signatures
in
total.
R
R
R
You're
present
today
this
process
and
it's
circumstance
will
be
present
in
your
ward,
if
not
already,
due
to
Avenue
revitalization
I
mean
I'm
present
today,
because
the
inappropriate
action
that
started
from
the
get-go
with
this
applicant,
the
Goldberg
group
I,
walked
through
the
community
every
day
and
three
years
ago
a
sales
pavilion
was
being
erected
at
3655,
Kingston
Road
no
permits
were
obtained
as
I
learned
through
the
city
311
and
my
local
councillor.
This
was
finally
investigated
by
a
municipal
licensing
and
standards
and
confirmed
in
April
2016.
The
city
hosts
a
community
consultation
meeting.
R
Instead,
they
presented
a
plan
that
was
something
completely
different,
a
much
larger
building
plan
that
was
expected
ten
stories
and
not
the
original
eight
the
applicant
showed
that
they
weren't
and
we're
not
and
were
pardon
me
poorly
prepared
many
times
the
representatives
couldn't
answer,
questions
and
the
community
was
told
a
building
that
was
any
smaller
would
not
be
in
their
interest.
They
could
not
afford
anything
smaller,
not
a
good
start
to
impress
the
residents
community
outreach.
R
Pardon
me
community
outrage,
equaled
the
birthdays,
yes
VCA,
so
I
asked
you:
how
does
the
community
get
behind
a
developer
like
this
and
how
does
a
community
council
trust
an
application
like
this?
The
Goldberg
group
tried
one
more
time
through
councillor
Crawford's
request
to
address
the
community
in
June
2017
to
show
a
configured
proposal.
Again.
It
was
our
considered
opinion.
The
applicant
was
not
repair
prepared,
nor
to
have
any
of
our
community
concerns
seriously.
Once
again,
the
answers
to
questions
from
the
80
plus
residents
were
not
fully
answered
or
dealt
with.
R
How
is
it
that
the
applicants
a
street
a
frame
signs
can
be
prevalent
in
the
community
over
the
weekends
and
our
resident
lawn
signs
that
promoted
stopped
the
high-rise
on
muir
community
residents
were
told
to
poll
and
place
their
signs
on
their
property
out
of
traffic
sight
lines
as
per
the
direction
from
our
city
bylaw
officers?
How
is
it
that
the
applicant
is
investigated
for
a
possessive
noise
on
weekends,
for
four
weeks
by
our
city,
municipal
on
standards,
department
and
dude?
There
was
disrespectful
actions.
R
Continue
this
past
July,
ninth
working
into
the
early
hours
of
the
night
or
I
should
say
morning.
Demolition
takes
place
on
a
sales
pavilion,
prompting
calls
and
emails
from
the
community
to
311
the
Ministry
of
Labor,
our
local
councillor
and
the
police
planning
staff
don't
seem
to
care
in
my
opinion,
as
these
issues
are
not
reflected
in
the
official
client.
Mid-Rise
guidelines
are
a
revitalization
of
avenues.
The
staff
report
presented
this
morning
does
not
offer
a
true
picture
from
the
community's
point
of
view.
R
It
does,
however,
through
the
planning
staff
lenses
provides
conformance,
but
only
if
the
hood,
this
designation
and
has
changed
to
apartment
neighborhood.
How
is
it
the
SPCA
is
told
countless
times
that
by
planning
staff
that
the
loss
of
a
Lakeview
and
the
guild
is
not
an
argument
for
height
I'm,
rejecting
the
application
and
staff
report,
the
planning
staff
defend
the
loss
of
view,
as
the
proposed
development
is
compliant
is
in
compliance
with
the
Official
Plan
on
plays
on
page
12
of
the
staff
report.
R
Yet
the
Goldberg
group
can
use
the
view
and
I
quote
residents
overlooking
the
lake
and
guilt
as
well
as
stunning,
unobstructed
views
of
Lake
Ontario,
the
SBC
residents
can't
argue
the
loss
of
view,
but
it's
okay
for
staff
and
the
applicant
I
can
certainly
see
how
community
lose
credibility
and
public
trust
in
the
process.
So
I
ask
the
questions.
What's
the
impact
here
on
this
application
staff
report
on
the
residents
in
the
area?
What
impact
is
there
on
the
additional
vehicle
and
pedestrian
traffic?
Great
Thank
You?
Mr.
R
D
E
Thank
you
three,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
in
today
and
I'm
sure.
You've
probably
heard
me
talk
or
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
and
I
mentioned
that
my
eyes
popped
out
when
I
saw
the
current
zoning
on
this
property
is
highway.
Commercial
you'd
rather
have
you
don't
want
this
nine-story
building
you'd
rather
keep
the
current
zoning
on
the
site.
My.
R
E
Okay,
that's
your
under
your
understanding
is
that
the
current
zoning
only
allows
for
stories.
Yes,
and
if
you
turns
out
that
that
information
or
your
understanding
is
incorrect,
because
the
owner
just
told
us
confirmed
what
I
thought
is
that
there
is
no
height
limit
on
that
property
right
now,
they
can
go
up
to
25
stories
right
now.
R
E
E
E
E
E
E
R
H
R
H
R
R
What's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
increase,
there
was
those
were
sort
of
like
the
issues
that
we're
all
part
and
parcel
of
that
one
thousand
and
six.
So
it
just
wasn't
a
view,
but
it
was
also
hide.
It
was
safety.
It
was
the
kids
going
to
school,
walking
through
the
parking
through
the
through
the
community
etc.
H
Number
four
in
the
staff
report:
it
would
appear
that
or
actually
attachment
number
three
as
well.
It
would
appear
that
the
number
of
cars
or
car
movements
that
would
be
generated
from
that
site
would,
it
would
appear
to
be
concentrated
in
the
Kingston
Road
area.
Is
that
correct
or
do
they
fear
that
that
people
will
be
driving
through
the
neighborhood
people
drive
access,
Kingston,
Road.
R
Peope
people
drive
through
the
neighborhood,
it's
it's
it's
to
get
off
of
Kingston
Road,
so
there's
already
additional
traffic
in
the
community
and
there's
a
number
of
roads
which
the
property
is
surrounded
by,
which
is
Bethune
Muir
the
Kingston
side
road.
So
there's
always
already
having
this
amount
of
traffic
added
in
we're
concerned.
Have
you
did.
H
R
R
Not
knowing
the
history
of
the
numbers
in
in
the
community,
we
didn't
know
what
kind
of
impact,
but
certainly
there's
enough
that
we
we
were
concerned
just
having
a
billing
and
a
number
of
units
as
such.
Coming
in
that
there
be
an
increase,
the
fact
of
where
even
the
entrance
to
the
underground
parking
that's
proposed.
With
this
development,
we
would
have
concerns
because
meters
away,
that's
where
there's
multiple
multitude
bus
pickups
for
the
children,
with
the
bus
with
the
with
the
bus
systems.
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D
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you,
rob
for
coming
out
and
I
guess
being
the
first
step.
In
generally,
the
first
deputy
from
the
community
gets
gets
all
the
all
the
the
questions
so
I
appreciate
your
your
I
guess,
challenge
it
being
up
there
and
what
you've
been
doing
so
just
to
clarify
to
end
the
the
community,
regardless
of
what
the
zoning
is
and
you're
gonna
hear
from
staff
in
a
minute
if
this
is
designated
as
a
neighbourhood
in
the
designation
in
the
Official
Plan.
D
So
from
your
perspective
and
the
community's
perspective,
you
would
like
to
for
this
this
particular
development
to
continue
as
a
neighborhood
and
and
that's
really
complementing
the
residential
behind
there,
which
are
all
single-family
residential,
and
you
want
this
building
to
complement
that,
which
would
be
no
more
than
say
four
storeys
townhomes
or
something
similar.
It's
not
correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
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C
Morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
ron
Hoekstra
lifelong
resident,
scarborough
village.
I
live
in
one
of
the
homes
on
your
drive.
The
fundamental
difference
between
our
fight
and
the
other
development
applications
along
Kingston
Road
is
that
the
three
six
five
five
address,
according
to
the
Official
Plan,
is
designated
neighborhood
the
eleven
applications.
C
C
Yes,
the
Toronto
City
Council
adopted
this
Official
Plan
highly-respected
Scarborough
resident
Derek
Pinder
writer
for
the
Bluffs
monitor
wrote
in
this
month's
issue.
The
Official
Plan
was
written
by
talented
people
who
had
the
future
of
the
city
in
mind.
Development
of
the
plan
went
through
the
democratic
process,
which
means
that
it
had
the
majority
of
the
citizens
behind
it.
C
People
are
using
it
as
a
basis
for
life
decisions
such
as
where
they
choose
to
live
in
the
Official
Plan
chapter
two
point
two
point:
three:
it
reads:
not
all
lands
that
fall
within
the
avenues:
they're
designated
for
growth.
These
avenues
have
been
identified
at
a
broad
scale
to
help
assess
urban
design,
transit
and
delivery
issues.
However,
where
a
portion
of
an
Avenue
is
designated
as
a
neighborhood,
the
neighborhood
protection
policies,
the
chapter
four
point:
one
will
prevail
to
ensure
that
any
new
development
respects
and
reinforces
the
general
physical
character
of
established
neighborhoods.
C
Let
me
read
that
again
respects
and
reinforces
the
general
physical
character
of
the
neighborhood.
Changing
a
designation
is
the
exact
opposite
of
respecting
reinforced
an
in
general
physical
character
means
keeping
that
lot
to
four
floors
or
lower
as
well
in
Chapter
four
point
one.
It
reads
over
the
past
half-century,
scattered
high-rise
apartment
buildings,
where
construction
or
construction
or
sort
of
constructed
in
the
midst
of
otherwise
low
scale,
residential
neighborhoods,
the
existing
higher
scale
apartments
are
recognized,
but
no
new
ones
are
permitted
in
areas
designated
as
neighborhoods.
C
This
is
basically
saying
that
precedents
of
apartment
buildings,
pre
official
plan,
will
not
be
considered
over
and
over
again
in
the
Official
Plan.
It
consistently
uses
language
to
protect
neighborhoods.
There
are
reasons
why
the
neighborhood
designation
was
given
to
this
lot.
First,
this
slot
is
surrounded
on
all
three
sides
below
Kingston
Road
by
other
neighborhood
designations.
I
mean
how
much
more
neighbourhood
you
need
to
get
than
that.
C
Second,
if
a
zoning
chain
was
to
be
made,
the
current
designation
is
suggesting
that
a
residential
zone
should
be
considered.
This
application
is
unique
compared
to
most
other
development
applications
along
the
avenues
in
Toronto.
It
is
one
of
the
only
Lots
not
bordered
by
at
least
one
mixed-use
or
apartment
designation
below
the
Avenue.
C
The
plan
departments
argument
from
Chapter
four
point:
one
point:
nine
about
infill
development
on
properties
that
vary
from
local
patterns.
In
terms
the
lot
size
configuration
orientation
is
misleading.
The
Lots
that
the
playing
department
talks
about
are
not
designated
neighborhood
nowhere.
It
doesn't
say
that
they
referring
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
They
also
carefully
omitted
a
statement
that
says
it
is
often
not
possible
or
desirable
to
provide
the
same
site
standards
and
patterns
of
development
as
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
C
Well,
it
would
be
pretty
difficult
to
convince
anyone
in
this
room
that
you
cannot
put
a
four-story,
condo
or
townhome
on
that
lot,
to
keep
it
in
line
with
the
Neighborhood
designation,
all
across
Kingston
Road.
You
see
low-rise
developments
respecting
neighborhoods,
including
the
recent
Opel
townhome
development,
only
a
kilometre
away.
We
have
over
1,000
seniors
of
support
wanting
to
keep
this
neighborhood
designation.
To
put
this
in
perspective,
our
signatures
equivalent
to
more
than
four
million
dollars
in
property
taxes
each
year.
What
the
city
is
only
gaining
of
property.
C
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C
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C
C
L
C
L
Was
not
the
community
organization
was
not
developed
when
the
Eglinton
Avenue,
you
know
the
plaza
south
on
the
south
side
of
Edmonton
and
the
east
side
of
Markham
about
those
buildings.
Whatever
be
incorrect
in
saying
to
you
that
the
community
was
warned
in
order
to
oppose
this,
so
the
nine
first
floors
of
the
building
at
Eglinton
and
Kingston
Road
will
not
their
view
will
not
be
impeded
in
order
to
see
the
link.
What
I'd
be
incorrect
in
that
I.
C
Can't
speak
on
behalf
of
other
people.
All
I
can
say
is
that
this
were
we're
representing
we're
fighting
against
its
application
below
Kingston
Road.
What
happened
north
and
Kingston
Road
I
cannot
comment
to,
because
I
was
not
privy
to
that.
I
wish
there
was
might
be
more
apathy
with
from
the
kannur
story
more.
It
was
more
energy
from
the
community,
but
I
can't
speak
to
them.
My
question.
L
C
L
Gonna
ask
the
same
question
of
all
the
deputies
if
they
remember
when
the
buildings
were
blown
across
the
street,
the
20
story
that
are
there
right
now,
the
if
there
was
you
know
such
a
passion
back
then
there
wasn't
I,
think
that
there's
other
factors
that
are
driving
it
I.
Thank
you
appreciated.
Thank
you.
Thank.
D
You
volunteer
I'm
gonna,
ask
these
asses
in
a
question
form
just
to
clear
up
some
of
the
little
bit
of
confusion
from
my
colleague.
We
aware
that
on
the
market
and
square,
which
was
the
one,
the
development
you're
mentioning
a
number
of
years
ago
before
predates
me,
and
it
predates
my
colleague
that
in
fact
there
was
a
lot
of
community
opposition
to
it.
There
were
a
thousand
units
that
were
proposed
and
again
through
the
community.
D
C
D
D
They
still
have
the
opportunity
on
that
section,
which
is
good
life
to
do
a
development
at
some
time
in
the
future,
but
they
more
or
less
told
us
through
Council
that
they've
kind
of
delayed
it
indefinitely.
So,
even
though
there's
a
thousand
units
proposed
and
they
could
build
the
chances
of
that
happening
in
the
future,
are
you
may,
as
they
said
it
may
be
in
20
years,
proportionally
good
life
yeah,
there's
still
that
opportunity.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're.
Aware
of
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
K
You
give
me
before
you
start
the
clock.
I
just
have
to
put
my
thing
on
presenter
view,
so
you
can't
see
my
my
notes,
hi.
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
had
no
idea.
Your
job
is
worth
this
tantalizing
and
you
have
my
empathy,
so
my
name
is
Maggie
Casella
I
live
at
Hillcrest
south
or
the
project
at
hand
I'd
like
to
by
just
referring
to
the
recent
Toronto
Star
article.
K
That
says,
basically,
if
you
are
fighting
this
stuff
or
on
one
side
of
the
other,
this
stuff
you're,
either
NIMBY
or
you're
in
the
pocket
of
the
developer,
I
like
to
think
that
we're
all
people
here,
neighbors,
even
you,
mister,
developer
and
I-
hope
that
you
aren't
entrenched
in
that
thought,
because
for
me
this
isn't
about
NIMBY.
I
have
water
on
the
brain
and
you'll,
see
why
so
I
will
say
just
to
the
to
the
Goldberg
Group,
a
woman
that
they
worked
with
staff.
They
didn't
work
with
us.
Honestly.
K
We
went
to
that
first
community
meeting,
hoping
that
we
would
get
cooperation
and
I
feel
like
we
didn't.
So
our
concerns
are
not
just
height.
I
would
say,
the
players
report
is
a
subjective
take,
and
that
is
incorrect.
Okay,
we
care
about
water
and
flooding
traffic,
sense,
safety
density,
the
fiscal
health
of
this
developer
and
height.
There
are
high
water
tables
underground
streams.
Flooding
in
our
neighborhood
already
exists.
I'm
south
of
this
I'm
on
a
secondary
bluff.
K
Many
of
my
neighbors
yards
are
flooded,
so
the
building
is
watertight.
When
we
asked
about
what
that
means,
even
Tom,
you
said
hey
it's
great,
but
we
don't
really
know
what
what
watertight
the
effect
it
will
have.
We
want
to
I
want
to
know
where
the
water's
going
when
it
goes
around
that
building
on
your
drive.
Look
at
me.
K
This
is
a
backyard
I'm,
your
Drive
just
after
rain,
so
we
are
on
an,
but
you
know
if
I
could
pull
out
a
1947
map,
but
you'd
laugh
at
me
where
it
shows
two
streams.
Underneath
you
all
know
when
you
start
moving
things
around
water
moves
around
I
understand
you
can't
guarantee,
what's
gonna
happen,
but
there's
a
flood
study
being
done
on
the
area
in
a
few
months,
and
my
feeling
is
like
okay.
K
If
this
is
not
going
to
cause
a
hole,
what
poop
ton
of
water
problems
I
want
to
know
that
and
I
would
like
to
delay
the
decision
on
the
application
until
that
is
complete.
We
had
two
community
meetings,
two
chances
to
work
with
the
developer,
I
hate
to
say
this.
So
my
best
friends
are
developers.
I
said
it
I've,
outed,
myself
and
I
would
have
liked
to
work
with
them.
The
proposal
at
the
first
meeting,
what
the
notice
said,
eight
stories
we
got
to
the
meeting.
It
was
ten
stories
at
that
point.
K
I
feel
like
we
should
have
dismissed
the
meeting
and
moved
on,
because
we
were
looking
at
a
10
story
thing
and
even
Miss.
Goldberg
group
could
not
speak
to
that
and
answer
the
questions.
The
second
meeting
was
worse.
The
developers
consultant
was
unprepared
answered
almost
no
questions
of
our
concerns.
It's
nice.
They
were
working
with
Tommen
and
David,
but
they
didn't
work
with
us.
The
proposal
was
for
nine
stories
right
now.
There's
an
error
in
the
planning
report
where
they
list
the
the
sites
that
says
eight.
K
There
was
never
an
effort
by
scholar
to
work
with
us.
The
opposite
is
true.
We
were
looking
for
four,
let's
face
it,
it's
let's
make
a
deal.
People
they
came
in
with
eight
was
hoping,
maybe
somewhere
in
between,
and
we
could
address
our
concerns,
but
instead
it
went
from
eight
to
ten
and
now
we're
at
nine.
They
said
at
the
first
meeting
the
reason
we're
not
going
for
four
stories.
Is
we
can't
make
enough
money,
since
when
do
we
make
these
decisions
based
on
what
the
developer
can
or
can't
make?
K
And
as
I'm
speaking
about
that
I'd
like
to
talk
to
point
you
to
the
fiscal
health
of
this
developer,
I
understand
that
you
don't
take
that
into
consideration
when
you're
talking
looking
at
a
site
plan,
you
want
to
know
if
it's
a
proper
site
plan,
but
they
did
just
have
a
recent
bankruptcy
on
a
condo
site
very
similar
to
this,
where
people
were
left
out
in
the
cold
and
I'm,
not
sure
they
have
their
their
money
back
yet
their
deposits
back.
So
the
issues
are
around
traffic
and
safety
are
real,
I
think
need
more
study.
K
We
found
a
flaw
in
their
traffic
report.
It
says
a
hundred
percent
of
their
cars
will
go
out
on
the
service
road.
They
will
not
on
street
parking
will
be
affected.
We
have
no
sidewalks
kids
walking
to
school.
That's
important.
It's
about
mr.
Darren
Baker,
I
can't
say
your
name
I'm,
so
sorry,
counselor
and
through
the
chair,
I
say
to
you.
This
is
not
about.
We
have
a
qualification
of
a
designation
on
the
zoning,
so
the
zoning
is
one
thing.
K
This
is
the
only
if
you
look
at
density
versus
mass
in
this
I
have
30
seconds.
I
will
tell
you
that
all
of
the
other
properties
are
designated
mixed-use.
This
is
designated
neighborhood.
That
is
where
we
come
into
play,
and
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
fact
that
the
people
who
wrote
the
Official
Plan
were
very
smart.
They
looked
at
this
particular
piece
of
property.
They
saw
the
neighborhoods
around
it
and
they
said
no
leave
this
neighborhood.
Good
luck.
You
want
to
build
25
stories
on
that,
but
no
we
are
designating
it
neighborhood.
K
K
A
L
K
K
L
L
K
I
aware
of
that,
do
you
want
to
speak?
I
mean
you
just
like
talking
to
a
child
when
you
ask
us
that
question
I
want
to
work
with
the
developer,
to
put
something
I'm
answering
your
question,
sir.
Through
the
chair,
I'm
answering
your
question:
why
don't
you
let
me
answer
your
question.
You
asked
me
if
I'm
aware.
L
A
L
L
K
Thank
you,
yeah
I'm,
aware
of
the
OMB
we
all
are.
The
OMB
is
something
that
is
constantly
talked
about
in
the
papers.
That
is
something
that
premier
Wynne
talks
about.
Changing
that
mayor,
Tory
talks
about
I
mean
I
would
argue
that
there's
absolutely
no
due
process.
When
we
go
to
the
OMB.
There
is
no
right
of
appeal
for
any
of
us
I'm
aware
of
the
percentage
of
times
that
they
cite
on
the
side
of
the
developer.
K
I'm,
a
person
who
wanted
to
work
with
the
developer
and
was
disappointed
at
the
community
meetings
and
I
was
disappointed
by
scholar.
Groups.
Consultants
specifically,
the
woman
who
spoke
today
was
named
I,
don't
know
who
looked
at
me
and
mouthed
I,
don't
know
when
I
asked
questions
who
could
not
answer
questions
so
yeah
I'm
at
the
risk
we're
taking
going
to
the
OMB
these
people
don't
want
to
build
a
25-story
story.
Building
it's
not
in
their
wheelhouse.
They
want
to
build
condos,
make
their
money
and
move
on
and
I
can
I.
Don't
just
respect
that.
A
A
K
I
live
on,
I
live
on
Hill
and
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
live.
I
moved
from
the
beach
who
moves
from
the
beach.
The
Scarborough
Village
is
amazing.
I
moved
here
because
of
the
of
the
neighborhood.
However,
during
rush
hour,
you
don't
want
to
step
up
your
driveway
onto
Hill,
because
I
think
through
the
graciousness
of
council.
At
one
point
we
got
stop
signs
that
was
before
my
time,
but
people
tend
to
race
downhill
at
a
very,
very
rapid
rate,
avoiding
Kingston
Road.
K
They
make
a
right
either
on
ravine
or
on
Markham,
come
across
hill
zip
around
and
then
go
back
out.
Scarborough
Golf,
Club
Road.
If
you
look
at
the
traffic
report,
also
a
very
nice
man,
the
traffic
guy,
he
says
a
hundred
percent
of
the
traffic
will
exit
on
to
the
service
road.
I.
Don't
think
that's
actually
the
case.
We
didn't
get
the
questions
answered
councillor
Ainsley
about
how
the
traffic
goes
into
and
out
of
the
building
where
the
driveway
is.
K
But
if
they
come
out
and
you
have
to
go
out
that
way
to
go
out,
Kingston
Road,
you
actually
have
to
go
out.
Go
right.
Go
down
to
Eglinton
make
a
u-turn
which
is
very
difficult
and
then
come
back
around.
So
if
it's
me,
I'm
gonna
go
out
through
the
neighbourhood
and
either
go
in
either
direction
up
hill
or
whatever
some
people
go
down.
Bethune
and
that's
that's!
K
C
K
K
So
the
garage
is
on
to
the
right
of
the
pin
yeah
to
go
out
to
Kingston
Road.
If
you
want
to
go
back
south,
you
have
to
go
right,
make
a
u-turn
and
go
back
up.
Kingston
Road!
My
guess,
is
during
rush
hour,
you're
not
going
to
do
that.
To
avoid
the
traffic
you're
going
to
come
down
your
and
go
across
hill.
What
you
can't
see,
which
is
what
most
people
do
and
I
would
do,
I,
don't
even
take
that
way.
C
C
K
M
K
K
If
we
could,
just
if
we
could,
we
had
that
addressed
if
we
knew
or
the
water
right
now,
there's
so
many
places
that
have
flooded
councillor
Ainsley
that
it's
like
I,
don't
even
have
a
count.
Every
new
construction
north
of
hill
has
hit
a
table.
There's
a
bunch
of
houses
on
Heath
field,
there's
still
water
in
one
basement.
It's
constant.
My
concern
is
obviously
the
second
they
hit
they
go
down
and
we
don't
know
what
they
hit
and
again
I'm,
not
stupid.
K
I
know
that
we
divert
water
all
the
time,
but
there's
gonna
be
a
flood
study
in
a
few
months.
So
what's
the
rush,
they
waited
this
long.
Maybe
we
could
see
the
flood
study
and
then
work
with.
They
could
work
with
the
flood
study
to
ensure
that
we
don't
end
up
in
a
situation
where
everything's
flooded,
because
there's
been
a
giant
hole
dug
and
a
whole
bunch
of
stuffs
been
moved
around
okay.
K
K
P
Well,
it's
not
morning
anymore,
good
afternoon.
Everybody
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
I
know,
you're
a
politician
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
very
simple,
not
very
many
questions.
I
live
on
the
service
road
in
Breen,
low
I
can
spit
and
kick
a
ball
to
where
the
car
washes.
With
the
company
there
are
applied
to
build
a
condom
find
nd.
We
raised
over
a
thousand
seconds
of
signatures,
blah
blah
from
the
people
that
live
in
the
area,
including
me
my
house.
We
don't
want
it,
never
mind
the
sex
floor,
nine
floor
time
floor.
P
P
Madam,
you
see
the
cup
between
your
desk
at
the
gentleman
next
to
you,
you
see
the
gap
there.
Okay,
that
is
the
river
behind
you.
It's
a
what
you
call
a
scab,
Oh
God
drop
in
front
here
is
Markham
Road
the
place
where
they'd
build
it.
It's
ready
between,
like
between
the
your
two
desk.
Now,
if
I
go
and
put
a
broom
in
the
middle
there,
the
water
is
going
to
hit
the
broom
and
it's
gonna
go
like
this,
and
when
I
happened
to
our
neighborhood,
that
is
ready
in
trouble,
because
you
cannot
beat
nature.
P
You
can't
eventually
it's
gonna
go
through,
like
we
sorry
for
the
people
now
in
the
wintertime.
When
we
get
more
than
that
much
snow
which,
in
Toronto
a
disaster,
there's
no
power,
come
they
clean.
The
road
here
Crescent
is
always
well
done,
but
you
go
through
the
other
street.
You
gotta
walk
in
the
middle.
The
only
Street
that
ever
sidewalk
is
mild,
the
service
road,
all
the
street,
that
the
kids
go
to
school,
because
that
is
a
school
day.
There
is
no
sidewalk
in
the
reader
time.
P
P
Adri
safety,
because
when
it
increased
people
take
the
towels
I,
do
it
across
the
street
they
gotta
be
keeps
tup
goes
to
that
school.
They
gotta
cross
a
street.
They
walk
around
the
street,
our
kids
that
live
in
our
neighborhood.
They
are
walking
on
the
road.
There
is
no
sidewalk.
Only
my
street
head
and
I'm
there
for
almost
twenty
years,
so
I
got
no
much
more
to
say
to
you.
We
just
don't
want
it.
We
are
afraid
that
is
going
to
create
problem,
especially
with
the
river,
the
rat,
underneath
the
traffic
sheets.
P
Someone
is
gonna,
get
hit
by
this
day,
I
hope
to
god.
That'll
never
happen,
but
you
increase
people
and
they
are
always
in
a
hurry.
I,
don't
know
why
they
don't
get
up
five
minutes
earlier,
but
things
happened
and
I,
don't
like
it
to
see
her
happy.
I
am
a
father
now
I'm
finished.
Who
wants
to
ask
me
a
question.
J
A
O
Good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Janice
decosta
and,
while
I
do
not
expect
there
to
be
any
name
recognition,
I
am
hopeful
that
you
at
the
very
least,
remember
the
six
page
letter
I
mailed
on
August,
the
third
on
the
subject
of
three
six
five,
five
Kingston
Road
and
our
need
for
responsible
building.
It
does
not
appear
that
the
city
has
done
its
due
diligence
with
regards
to
flooding
in
our
area.
Should
the
rezoning
of
this
building
pass?
O
We,
the
members
of
the
SVC
a
we
will
be
compelled
to
distribute
the
following
notice
of
concern
to
residents
in
the
area,
leaving
the
City
of
Toronto
liable.
The
notice
of
concern
reads
as
follows:
potential
flooding
and
water
management
issues.
This
notice
is
being
forwarded
to
the
city
of
Toronto
in
respect
of
the
properties
in
the
vicinity
of
the
proposed
building
development
to
be
located
on
three
six:
five:
five
Kingston
Road
Scarborough
Ontario
M,
1,
M
1
s
2.
O
This
proposed
development
would
be
located
where
possible,
underground
streams
exists,
underground
water
levels
are
consistently
high
throughout
this
area.
In
the
case
of
any
flooding
or
water
management
issues
affecting
the
residents
in
this
vicinity,
during
or
after
the
construction
of
this
development,
this
notice
would
be
used
as
a
record
that
the
city
had
full
knowledge
of
this
risk.
Prior
to
the
approval
of
this
development,
this
building
development
would
result
in
substantial
underground
water
deviation,
given
its
depth
and
water
tight
construction
as
taxpayers
to
the
City
of
Toronto.
O
It
is
our
expectation
that
the
city
would
assume
financial
responsibility
for
any
form
of
damage
resulting
from
water
issues
in
our
properties,
sign
addressed
and
dated,
but
that
is
not
all
documentation
for
maps
have
revealed
that
streams
flowed
in
our
area
and
talked
them
through
out
the
current
carwash
site.
Today,
some
of
the
streams
are
still
underground,
causing
flooding
to
the
majority
of
the
homes
in
our
neighborhood
at
one
time
or
another,
even
during
a
heavy
rain.
O
It
is
typical
to
see
our
backyards
turn
into
swamps
as
underground
streams
rise
insurance
companies
target
our
area
as
high
risk
for
flooding.
When
bringing
this
matter
to
Toms
attention,
his
reply
was
that
the
building
was
going
to
be
constructed,
watertight,
no
weeping,
tiles
or
sump
pump.
That
is
potentially
great
news
for
the
condo,
but
how
about
the
rest
of
the
community?
He
still
could
not
answer
how
this
building
could
affect
the
flow
of
streams
underneath
and
how
the
rear
ooting
of
the
streams
could
affect.
O
Neighbor
neighboring
homes
as
well
Tom
acknowledged
that
watertight
buildings
is
a
very
new
method
that
does
not
have
enough
history
to
determine
negative
impacts,
but
city's
current
flood
management
plan
will
not
study
our
area
until
beyond
2018.
This
is
obviously
unacceptable
as
it
pertains
to
this
development
moving
forward
without
the
benefit
of
the
knowledge
gained
through
the
study.
At
the
very
least,
this
project
should
be
delayed
until
a
proper
study
has
been
done
and
the
conclusions
viewed
by
you
all.
There
is
no
need
to
rush
this
project.
The
water
can
service
conservation.
O
The
water
conservation
authority
would
not
respond
to
our
requests
for
their
involvement.
Their
protocol
requires
the
city
to
request
this
review.
Despite
all
this
knowledge,
my
question
to
you
is
the
city
willing
to
accept
the
financial,
emotional
and
perhaps
fatal
responsibility
from
flooding
and
sinkholes,
resulting
from
the
building
of
the
proposed
condos.
O
What
also
surprises
me
after
reading
the
staff
report
is
that
the
only
one
thing
that
Tom
could
come
up
with
in
this
report
from
a
community
concern
standpoint
was
view.
There
was
no
mention
of
our
concerns
about
the
flooding
in
our
area.
Environmental
concerns
like
the
high
levels
of
petroleum
hydrocarbons,
that
is
demanding
a
second
ESA
report
safety,
especially
for
those
children
walking
to
and
from
school
and
very
little
about
traffic.
O
Another
traffic
and
safety
concern
comes
from
Tedesco's
engineering
owns
research
according
to
the
addendum,
exhibit
number
three
B,
which
illustrates
current
PM
volumes
and
movement
of
traffic.
It
indicates
at
least
82
percent
of
the
traffic
from
the
townhomes
that
exit
left
on
your
drive
continue
their
journey
through
the
neighborhood
along
bathroom
bill.
Avadh.
Incredibly,
Tedesco
is
forecasting.
A
hundred
percent
of
the
vehicles
that
eggs
that
exit
right
onto
Muir
drive
from
the
proposed
condo
will
continue
their
journey
along
the
service
road,
thereby
not
affecting
the
community.
O
C
Thank
you
thank
you
for
coming
in
this
morning
or
soon
this
afternoon.
Now,
can
you
clarify
for
me,
because
both
yourselves
in
the
previous
step
Union
mentioned
that
there
was
gonna,
be
a
flood
study
done
in
the
area
and
I'm
and
both
I
think
councillor,
Crawford
and
I
we're
both
trying
to
understand
what
you're
referring
to
it's.
O
C
Because
the
city
does
have
we
have
a
wet
weather
flow
master
plan,
that's
being
implemented
across
the
city,
and
my
understanding
of
that
is
our
the
area
Guildwood,
including
the
around
mirror,
isn't
going
to
be
looked
at
until
2024,
so
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
the
same
one,
that
somebody's
told
you
it's
gonna
be
done
in
2018,
I'm.
O
There
are
schools
in
the
area,
we've
got
I,
don't
know
the
name
of
the
school
up,
but
I
know
it
is
on
its
behind
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
children
that
walk
to
school,
so
that
would
be
a
concern.
I
know
that
buses
to
drop
those
children's
being
dropped
off
at
the
schools
and
it
is
a
high
traffic
for
children.
It
is
a
neighborhood
with
young
families
right.
C
And
I
guess
the
from
my
perspective
is
somebody's
lived
in
the
area,
their
entire
life
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
area
our
family
doctor
used
to
be
a
mark
me
and
Kingston
real,
but
I
would
think
if
you're
in
this
building,
that
most
residents,
if
you
want
access
to
local
amenity,
amenities,
shopping
or
anything
like
that,
are
gonna,
go
out
on
the
service
road
and
onto
Kingston
Road.
And
that's
where
the
perspective
our
traffic
operations
staff
took
as
well
when
they
determine
what
the
traffic
flow
would
be
in
the
area.
All.
D
A
D
D
B
My
name
is
Suzanne
Groton
I'm,
a
retiree
I'm
70
years
old
I've
lived
in
my
home
for
35
years,
albeit
Unionville,
and
it's
time
to
move
and
I
did
a
lot
of
research
in
deciding
where
I
wanted
to
move
to
I
knew
it
was
a
condo.
I
grew
up
in
Oakville
on
the
lake
I
decided
I
wanted
to
be
by
the
lake.
I
have
a
dog.
This
is
a
pet
friendly
condominium.
So
I
was
looking
forward
to
walking
my
dog
to
riding
my
bike,
to
walking
and
to
hopefully
meeting
some
new
friends
anyway.
B
I
I
really
want
this
building
to
be
built
and
I
would
like
it
to
be
built
before
I'm,
90
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
an
asset
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
building,
I
think
that
the
developer
has
done
a
wonderful
job,
I'm
very
excited
about
the
unit
that
I
have
purchased
and
I
just
want
to
be
part
of
this
community
and
I
am
dismayed
at
the
amount
of
negativity,
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
points
being
made,
but
I
think
that
it's
like
an
uprising
or
something
and
very
negative
I
wish.
B
Perhaps
you
know
I,
don't
know
who
they
think
is
going
to
move
into
this
building
I
would
assume
it's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
perhaps
in
my
category
or
age
and
downsizing,
and
that
makes
sense
to
me
I
really
want
to
move
into
it.
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
a
detriment
and
I
hope
it
moves
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
and
questions
to
the
deputy
nc9.
Thank
you
so
much
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
actually
move
a
motion,
and
this
is
that
Scarborough
Community
Council
extend
the
meeting
past
12:30
lunch
recess
in
order
to
complete
consideration
of
the
remaining
items.
So
it
would
be
this
item
and
an
item
that
counts
our
Thompson
held
and
also
for
the
SC
24.
Thirteen
application
to
remove
it.
A
private
tree.
E
A
A
G
A
A
N
You
very
much
I
too,
had
not
intended
to
be
speaking
today
and
out.
Nor
was
I
meant
to
be
here
today,
however,
I
felt
it
was
important
to
come
and
support.
My
community
I've
lost
someone
very
close
to
me
in
the
last
four
days,
my
cousin
and
the
reason
I'm
here,
because
no
one
mentioned
this.
There
was
a
child
that
died
literally
metres
away
from
my
home
because
of
speeding
along
the
street.
I
sat
and
watched
the
ribbons
tied
to
the
posts,
the
flowers
where
he
had
passed
away.
No
one
mentions
this.
N
N
I
agree
that
we
have
a
problem
with
water
issues
and
as
councillors,
you
are
very
well
aware
that
we
have
a
stormwater
management
plan
and
you
were
very
well
aware
that
we
have
had
serious
flooding
issues
and
several
areas
of
the
city,
including
Scarborough,
are
storm
of
2006.
Are
strong
with
2011
over
2,500
homes,
flooding
every
single
time
residents
who
have
lost
insurance
on
their
properties
because
of
multiple
flooding,
and
we
have
residents
on
your
avenue
who
have
had
multiple
flooding?
N
So
please
do
not
ignore
this,
but
this
is
not
what
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
about
late
now,
I
want
to
make
a
couple
of
things:
I
want
to
clarify
a
few
things
if
he
will
allow
me.
First
of
all
this
area,
south
of
Kingston
Road,
is
zoned
neighbourhood,
the
area
north
of
Kingston
Road.
Where
you
see
your
metro
and
your
good
life
Fitness
is
not
zoned.
Neighbourhood
normally
OMB
allow
a
25
story,
building
south
of
Kingston
Road
because
it
is
zoned
neighbourhood,
Janice,
Robinson.
N
The
land-use
plan
of
the
developer
stated
that
this
site
is
9
storeys.
This
site
is
not
nine
stories.
This
building
is
story.
Building,
take
a
look
at
your
drawings,
please!
This
is
a
10-story
building.
It
has
a
rooftop
terrace
on
top
it's
enclosed,
partially
enclosed
it
has
its
maintenance
and
it's
it's
equipment
on
top,
also
enclosed.
This
is
a
ten
story.
Building
the
city's
definition
of
large,
medium
and
small
buildings
is
very
clear.
Please
look
at
your
notes.
Counselors.
This
is
a
large
building
for
our
neighborhood.
A
10
story.
Building
is
a
large
building.
N
You
said
that
there
are
no
traffic
issues.
The
traffic
issues
have
escalated
in
the
last
several
years.
Police
are
there
several
times
of
week
because
of
the
traffic
issues
I
personally
sat
outside
and
counted
88
cars
in
a
12
minute
period
around
8:30
in
the
morning
when
our
children
are
going
to
school.
This
is
a
serious
concern
when
we
have
no
sidewalks
in
this
neighborhood.
N
Jamis
also
mentioned
that
she
worked
closely
with
City
Planning
and
yet
at
a
meeting
that
I
attended
where
the
one
of
the
representatives
from
the
City
Planning
Department
was
there
I
will
not
mention
his
name.
You
know
who
he
is.
If
you
wish
to
find
out,
he
was
a
very
decent
man.
He
admitted
that
he
himself,
even
after
he
had
written,
send
off
on
reports
had
not
personally
visited
the
site,
nor
had
he
personally
walked
through
a
neighborhood.
N
L
N
Buildings
are
desirable
in
the
right
places.
This
building
is
taller
than
the
width
of
the
adjacent
street.
It
does
not
comply
tall
buildings
are
desirable
in
the
right
places,
but
they
don't
belong
everywhere,
and
this
certainly
does
not
belong
in
our
neighborhood.
I
want
to
go
back
to
safety,
because
I
don't
want
to
miss
this
opportunity.
N
I'll
use
the
Danforth
and
Bloor
as
an
example,
because
you
are
can
all
relate
to
wear
blue
Avenue
is
and
where
it
meets
the
day.
Fourth,
imagine
not
now
being
Hill
Crescent
and
no
sidewalks
anywhere.
This
is
what
we're
talking
about.
This
proposed
building
is
accessed
by
Moore
Avenue,
it's
a
very
small
street
which
leads
to
Hill
Crescent
Hill
Crescent
changes
names,
it's
still
the
same
street,
it's
one
straight
street.
It
turns
to
Belle
Haven
ravine
drive
to
Bellamy.
This
is
almost
like.
You
can
take
a
look
at
your
map.
It's
a
shortcut.
N
People
will
take
that
shortcut
from
Edmonton
Kingston
Road
to
get
to
Kingston,
Road
and
Bellamy.
We
have
three
schools.
This
is
my
most
important
concern:
three
schools,
Laurier
high
school
GPA,
Mackey
and
bliss
Carman,
and
all
these
children
walk
along
these
streets.
There
are
no
sidewalks
anywhere,
so
they
can
get
to
and
from
school
all
ages,
from
Kay
to
grade
12
walk
along
these
streets
to
access
their
schools
every
day
with
no
sidewalks,
you
alone,
the
building,
an.
A
N
E
You
completely
and
and
I
also
know
Hill
Crescent.
Now
my
guess
is
if
we
proposed
sidewalks
along
he'll
present
most
of
the
residents
who
own
those
houses
would
object
to
them.
Correct.
Oh
so,
you're
talking
about
safety
today,
so
I
support
your
initiative
for
safety.
Don't
you
think
the
best
thing
we
could
do
to
protect
all
those
people
all
the
times
put
sidewalks
on
Hill
Crescent
move
that
motion
today.
N
We're
here
to
talk
about
the
building,
sir,
we
can
deal
with
your
motion
during
another
time
and
I'm
sure
my
residence
and
my
neighbor's
would
be
happy
to
come
to
tend
and
express
their
concern.
But
I
can
almost
assure
you
that
if
it
came
down
to
losing
the
life
of
another
child,
I
don't
think
the
residents
I
will
not
speak
for
the
residents.
I
will
speak
for
myself.
I'm
not
opposed
to
sidewalks
personally,
but
I
do
not
have
the
right
to
speak
to
my
neighbors
I
hope.
You
can
appreciate
that
that
has
two
hours.
E
E
You
personally
and
I
personally
we
both
support
sidewalks
on
Hill,
Crescent
and
all
the
other
little
streets
there,
because
going
back
with
chine
Drive.
There
are
residents
there
who
objected
to
sidewalks
and
we
put
them
in
for
the
safety
of
the
children
so
and
other
people.
So
you
would
agree
that
you
and
I
won.
We
should
reject
this
application
in
order
to
protect
children
and
to
we
should
put
sidewalks
and
all
the
local
streets
to
protect
children.
You
and
I
would
be
in
agreement
on
that.
If
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
First.
N
And
foremost,
today's
issue
is
regarding
three
six:
five:
five
Kingston
Road
and
where
it's
located
and
the
neighbourhood
being
designated
as
neighbourhood
I
am
opposed
to
that.
I
want
to
make
one
thing
clear,
however:
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
development,
and
neither
are
the
over
1,000
signatures.
I
spoke
to
residents.
No
one
is
opposed
to
development.
We
all
support
a
fourth-story
or
less
development
in
the
neighbourhood.
It's
the
size
of
that
development
that
we
are
opposed
to.
Okay
and
yes,
I
do
support
along
at
least
one
side
of
Crescent
that
there
should
be
sidewalks
great.
L
N
L
B
L
N
L
L
L
N
On
an
extra
60
car,
sir,
and
it's
not
just
that
it
would
add
what
you're
in,
if
we're
doing,
math
we're
trying
to
explain
to
you
that
we're
supporting
what
the
neighborhood
is
zoned
for,
which
is
four
stories
or
less,
and
if
you
know
of
this
to
proceed.
Here's
my
concern
as
an
engineer
and
I.
As
an
engineer,
let
me
answer
you
a
question.
We
do
not
respect
the
current
designation
of
neighborhood
and
you
allowed
this
one
to
continue.
N
A
L
A
L
N
That's
your
question
and
if
you're
doing
the
math,
the
difference
is
between
50
and
60
cars,
60
cars.
If
you're
going
to
be
building
40
units
and
if
you're
building
40
units,
no
one
is
opposed
because
you're
respecting
the
designation
of
the
neighborhood
the
moment-
and
as
you
know
this-
that
you
disrespect
the
designation
of
the
neighborhood
and
you
allow
consider
a
large
building.
N
There's
a
precedent
has
been
set.
You
have
now
opened
it
up
to
many
more
of
these
large
buildings.
The
moment
we
allow
one
we
have
opened
it
up
to
more,
and
we
cannot
ignore
this,
especially
when
our
lot
sizes
are
a
point.
Seven
point:
seven
acres,
my
home
is
more
point.
Seven
acres
I
could
essentially
things
beside
me
right.
That's
ten,
storeys
high
I
cannot
ignore
that.
If
you
disrespect
what
you
have
put
in
place
to
protect
our
city
neighborhoods,
you
have
set
a
precedent
moving
forward
to
allow
this
to
continue.
N
L
N
L
N
Trying
to
collect
my
thoughts,
sir,
what
will
make
a
difference
in
the
neighborhood
is
what's
to
come.
When
you
allow
this
precedent
to
be
set,
it's
not
40
cars
anymore,
sir.
It
becomes
hundreds
of
cars.
These
are
missed.
My
main
point,
which
is
this
Main
Street,
has
no
sidewalks
on
either
side
these
children
walk
to
and
from
school
now
every
day,
not
just
one
school
which
is
directly
behind
this
building.
We
are
talking
about
Junior,
School
on
middle
school
and
a
high
school
all
using
this
main
artery.
N
It's
like
saying
you
know
war,
it
turns
into
Danforth
and
that's
the
shortest
cut
route
to
go
to
all
three
of
these
schools.
So
these
children
take
it
because
you're
not
going
to
do
the
Pythagorean
theorem
of
walking
along
Kingston
Road
and
making
their
route
twice
as
long.
If
this
is
what
this
is
about
and
respecting
what
we
have
put
in
place
for
our
neighborhood,
what
you.
C
N
N
City,
you
know,
has
combined
sewer
systems
in
place
and
that
we
have
had
some
funding
issues
with
some
very
tragic
results,
with
surface
floating
in
people's
basements
full
of
sewage,
I
personally
attended
these
homes
trying
to
find
solutions
for
these
lubbers
and
these
neighborhoods
across
your
entire
city.
You've
done
a
great
job
of
trying
to
implement
downspout
disconnection.
You
know
making
mandatory
programs
that
you
have
also
eliminated.
However,
we
have
some
very
serious
issues.
N
Today's
concerns
didn't
want
to
talk
sidewalks.
We
can
talk
about
that.
I
did
send
you
a
letter
about
my
concerns.
I,
don't
know
if
you
had
an
opportunity
to
read
it,
but
we
talked
you've
been
to
my
home.
You
probably
don't
recognize
me.
We
had
talked
about
my
concerns,
then
too.
The
position
in
the
last
election
right.
N
I
will
support
a
sidewalk
along
that
road
for
children.
You
can
contact
me
if
you
want
to
talk
about
it,
some
more,
but
today
I'm
talking
about
something
that
is
not
to
be
the
Kingston
note.
It
can
cross
the
street
and
go
over
known
as
opposed
to
that
either.
But
the
moment
you
allow
it
when
you
have
houses
townhouses
immediately
beside
and
behind
this
building,
which
will
be
accessing
you
drive
along
Hill,
Crescent,
ravine
Drive
to
do
the
shortcuts
which
people
want
to
do.
It
saves
a
lot
of
time.
N
N
You
have
now
crucified
that
neighborhood,
because
you
can
no
longer
say
no
to
the
others.
The
moment
you
allow
your
fences
to
be
approved
when
they're,
you
know
an
inch
or
two
inches
higher
than
what
you
say.
That's
fine,
but
if
you
allowed
one
to
go
up
that
was
10
20
feet
high.
If
you
allowed
one
20
foot
fence
to
go
up
I'm
sorry,
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
challenge
the
next
person
who
wants
to
come
up
and
put
that
20
foot
fence,
and
this
is
what
we're
talking
about
in
our
neighborhood.
N
C
B
B
B
N
Living
in
a
condo
for
me
to
help
answer
that
question
and
help
you
visualize,
do
you
live
in
a
condo
or
do
you
live
in
a
home?
Okay,
so
it
would
be
similar
to
where
you
live
in
your
own
subdivision.
For
example,
I
expect
that
your
subdivision
also
has
been
designated
neighborhood.
So
what
that
means
is
that
if
your
neighbor
or
let's
say
your
neighbor
five
houses
over
decided
to
sell
their
lot
and
a
developer
came
in
and
said,
you
know
that
Lots
big
enough
that
I
could
put
up
a
ten
story.
N
Building
I
want
to
do
that.
You,
however,
may
not
want
that
in
your
neighborhood
and
that's
what
it
is
it's
to
protect
the
neighborhood
that
these
designations
are
put
in
place,
so
they
allow
construction.
They
allow
construction
and
they'll
designate
up
to
four
storeys
is
acceptable,
but
anything
more
than
that
is
not,
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
mention.
There's
been
a
lot
of
beautification
and
development
in
our
own
neighborhood,
with
some
of
these
older
cottages
or
bungalows
are
being
purchased
and
new
homes
are
going
up
directly
across
the
street.
N
From
me,
the
developer
that
bought
those
homes
wanted
to
put
up
a
three-story
home
home
and
he
was
not
allowed
to
because
he
was
told
in
Scarborough
in
that
community
he
could
only
do
a
two-story
home,
and
yet
we
didn't
allow
the
three-story
home,
but
we
are
now
alive
a
10-story
building.
It's
not
acceptable.
B
N
N
N
If
you,
for
example,
and
I'm
gonna
use
blower,
because
I
think
that's
something
that
everyone
knows,
we're
blue
Avenue,
blue
areas
right
just
because
you
live
north
of
Bloor
or
you
live
south
of
lor
you're,
still
part
of
that
community,
but
the
area
on
a
city's
official
plan,
that's
north
of
Bloor,
for
example.
Let's,
let's
assume
that
was
like
Houston
Road,
that's
not
designated
or
a
zoned
neighborhood,
meaning
four
stories
or
less
so
they
are
allowed.
N
If
you
cross
the
street,
they
are
allowed
to
build
a
25
story
if
they
wanted
to,
if
the
only
be
allowed
it
hotel
or
whatever.
That
is
allowed
south
of
that.
However,
to
protect
that
neighborhood,
the
city's
official
plan
designated
it
as
neighborhood
zone
neighborhood,
meaning
no
more
than
four
stories,
and
it's
the
same
as
in
your
neighborhood,
a
hotel
unless
counselors
changed
their
minds
and
did
you
know,
as
we
were
meeting
here
today,
decided
to
allow
developer
to
come
in
and
build
25
stories.
N
It's
not
allowed
in
your
neighborhood,
where
you
live
personally,
because
you're
living
in
a
neighborhood
and
again
the
same.
The
same
would
apply
to
you.
You
probably
could
not
build
more
than
for
stories.
You
could
do
a
town
house,
you
could
do
that
sort
of
stuff,
but
not
not
a
big
condo
building
or
25
story
building
just
to
help
you
visualize
what
we're
referring
to
today
and
we
and
the
people
who
are
north.
Thank
you.
A
N
E
Where
this
is
because
a
counselor
Shannon
had
asked
some
questions,
and
there
was
some
comments
about
precedent
and
what's
in
your
neighborhood
I've
lived
here
in
this
area,
all
my
life
there's
the
Japanese
cultural
center
and
seniors
home
on
you
in
your
neighborhood
on
the
south
side
of
Kingston
Road
down
the
street
from
this
application
and
I
haven't
counted
it
lately,
but
I'm
assuming
it's
about
eight
or
nine
stories
tall
and
that
was
done
20
years
ago.
So
do
you
consider
the
eight.
E
N
N
Everything
in
my
surrounding
my
neighborhood,
but
what's
designated
and
zone
neighborhood
are
two
completely
separate
things.
It's
it's
completely
separate
and
isolated
away
from
any
of
that
residential
part
of
that
community.
You
know
where
that
is,
since
you
say,
you're
quite
familiar
with
the
area.
You
know
it
is
also
other
commercial.
You
know
buildings
parking
lots
and
so
forth.
It's
not
anywhere
near
the
residential
area,
nor
is
it
anywhere
near
where
children
walk
to
and
from
schooling
residents
talk
to
and
from
school.
This
part
in
here.
N
Okay,
so
over
the
past
half
century
scattered
high-rise
apartment
buildings
were
constructed
in
the
midst
of
otherwise
low
scale.
Residential
neighborhoods,
the
existing
higher
scale
apartments
are
recognized,
but
but
no
new
ones
are
permitted
in
areas
designated
as
neighborhoods
today,
because
of
your
official
plan
right.
E
N
Certain
things
in
place
as
citizens
of
the
City
of
Toronto
to
protect
our
city
in
our
neighborhoods
and
moving
forward.
We
did
this
because
we
wanted
to
protect
our
city.
We
wanted
to
protect
our
our
homes
and
our
neighborhoods
in
such
a
way,
and
that's
why
we
have
the
Official
Plan.
That's
why
we
have
a
stormwater
management
plan.
This
is
why
we
put
these
things
in
place
to
protect
our
neighborhoods
so
moving
forward.
The
mistakes
of
the
past
don't
need
to
be
carried
forward,
which
is
why
we
put
these
plans
in
place.
N
Kingston
Road,
who,
by
the
way,
sign
petitions
and
it's
not
because
it
was
blocking
their
views.
That's
a
very
small
component
of
this.
These
people
sign
petitions
because
their
relief
comes
from
our
neighborhood.
The
cross
Kingston
Road
in
come
into
the
designated
neighborhood
part
of
their
neighborhood
so
that
they
can
walk
comfortably
along
the
streets,
enjoy
the
ravines
enjoy
the
trails
enjoy
being
able
to
walk
through
some
sidewalks.
This
is
their
roof.
This
is
their
Haven.
N
H
H
There's
there's
a
number
of
issues
that
I
think
just
need
to
be
clarified
at
this
point
and
and
and
put
to
rest,
because
this
development
has
been
ongoing
for
several
years.
Now.
First
and
foremost,
there
were
comments
made
to
respect
to
a
previous
developer
scholar
developments.
We
do
not
recognize
scholar
developments,
they
have
been
removed
from
the
project.
We
are
Hazleton
developments
that
has
taken
over
the
development
of
this
project,
so
I
cannot
speak
to
any
previous
incidents
that
the
community
may
have
had
with
the
developers.
H
The
the
you
know
in
terms
of
retorting
or
rebutting
to
each
of
these
comments
at
this
point,
I,
don't
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
there
are
a
few
key
points
which
I
think
are
important
to
be
noted
number
one.
This
is
an
eight
story:
building
not
a
nine
or
ten
story
building.
It
is
an
eight
story,
building
that
has
a
mechanical
penthouse,
which
extends
above
that
eight
stories.
H
So
I
thought
it
was
important
to
to
clarify
that,
on
top
of
which
there
were
issues
that
related
back
to
water
and
again
there
have
been
exhaustive
studies
done
with
this
particular
piece
of
property
through
the
city
staff
through
our
own
independent,
consulting
engineers,
geotechnical
engineers
and
so
forth,
and
the
conclusions
that
have
been
in
the
report
are
the
result
of
or
an
accumulation
of
all
the
information.
That's
been
gathered
over
the
past
several
years
of
this
application
being
in
in
force.
H
There
was
also
some
concerns
regarding
traffic
and
I
think
it's
very
important
to
understand
that
the
traffic
patterns
in
this
immediate
area
have
been
studied
have
been
noted
by
not
only
city
staff,
but
our
own
independent
traffic
consultant,
which
is
on
site
or
here
today
with
us
and
can
happily
answer
any
questions
that
that
anyone
might
have.
But
our
concern
is
well
in
any
development
that
we
do
is
obviously
safety
being
a
key
concern.
H
Just
for
the
record,
there
are
sidewalks
around
the
complete
complete
perimeter
of
this
building
that
connect
into
Kingston
Road
and
connect
into
the
various
side.
Streets
that
are
join
in
abut
the
development
we
have
no
issue
with
with
working
with
the
community,
but
we
also
understand
that
you
know
there's
been
some
sort
of
a
negative
movement
towards
this
development
from
day
one
and
I
again.
I
cannot
speak
to
the
previous
regime.
H
That
was
here,
but
we
are
very
much
interested
and,
as
you've
obviously
heard
from
a
couple
of
residents
that
have
voiced
their
opinion,
that
the
development
is
very
much
desired
in
the
neighbourhood
by
many
others.
It
is
very
much
neighbourhood
friendly.
In
fact,
I've
looked
through
the
the
records
in
the
past
and
the
exterior
facade
of
this
building
has
been
changed
to
be
more
community
friendly.
It
was
originally
a
more
of
a
sterile
structure.
H
We've
now
changed
it
to
a
brick,
facade
or
a
brick
view
facade
and
again,
you
know
the
amount
of
the
number
of
things
that
have
been
changed
throughout
this
process
have
been
countless,
and
we
are
very
much
interested
in
in
wanting
to
pursue
this
development
and
seeing
it
through
and
to
the
end.
So
I
would
ask
Madame
chair
and
the
council
to
endorse
this,
the
the
planning
report
so
that
we
could
get
on
with
the
construction
of
this
project
as
soon
as
possible.
L
H
L
H
L
L
H
H
H
How
what
what
were
the
conclusions
reached
by
the
Professional
Engineers
that
deal
with
with
water
and
ground
have
to
say
about
that?
We
are.
The
building
is
located,
obviously
at
the
corner
of
Eglinton
and
Kingston
Road,
and
there
is
some
water
table.
There
are
some
water
table
issues
which
have
been
addressed
by
means
of
dewatering,
which,
in
fact,
if
the
community
is
so
concerned
about
water,
this
development
will
not
create
more
water
problems.
H
In
fact,
it
will
diminish
water
issues
because,
as
the
building
gets
excavated
and
dug,
there
is
an
ongoing
dewatering
system
that
will
be
applied
to
the
excavation
of
the
building
until
such
time
that
the
building
the
structure
of
the
building
has
been
completed,
that'll
be
approximately
18
to
22
months,
so
we
are
actually
taking
on
any
water,
any
subsurface
water.
That's
in
that
general
vicinity
and
pumping
it
into
the
into
the
system
which
we
were.
We
have
done.
H
Extensive
studies
and
the
city
has
done
extensive
studies
to
deal
with
and
to
approve
that
will
in
in
fact
make
the
water
problems
in
the
general
vicinity
better
rather
than
worse,
and
where
will
that
water?
That
will
go?
It
will
be
timed
and
will
be
in
go
into
the
the
sewer
system
only
at
designated
times
and
and
spaces
that
are
allowed
by
the
city.
Thank
you.
E
But
so
since
you've
been
on
I'll
call
it
this
file
or
this
site,
it's
always
been
the
eight
story
building
and
how
long
have
you
been
involved
with
the
site
approximately
three
months
and
how
long
have
you
been
in
the
development
industry
or
35
years?
Okay,
so,
given
your
you're
33
and
a
half
decades
of
experience
on
a
site
had
to
say
that,
didn't
you
give
that
short
expiry.
That's
the
small
timeframe.
You've
been
in
the
field.
E
Q
H
A
Any
further
questions:
no
seeing
men,
okay
and
there's
one
final
Deputy
end,
and
if
there
are
any
further
deput
ents,
you
have
to
register
with
the
clerk.
It's
Janice
Robinson
you're
done:
okay,
great
okay,
so
that
is
the
end
of
deputations.
If
you've
already
spoken,
then
you
cannot
speak
again.
Thank
you,
and
so
what
we
will
do
is
we're
going
to
move
to
questions
of
staff,
and
so
if
staff
would
like
to
come
up
to
present
and
then
we'll
start
with
the
questions,
so
we'll
start
with
you:
okay,
Jimmy
councillor,
Kerry
Janice,
we'll
start
with.