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The Committee reviewed Local Law H of 2020, Local Law of I of 2020, and Local Law J of 2020. Local H of 2020 requires the gathering and reporting of statistics on race, age, ethnicity, and gender and the reporting of these statistics to the Common Council. Local Law I of 2020 implement a policy for the use of city-owned body or dashboard cameras by police officers and to require reporting when the cameras are turned off by the officer. Local Law J of 2020 enhances the CPRB’s authority and ability to exercise oversight, review, and resolution of community complaints alleging abuse of police authority.
A
All
right,
jr
are
you
in
here.
You
are
in
here
at
the
top
good,
okay,
perfect.
A
So,
okay
welcome
to
the
thursday
november
5th
public
safety
meeting
committee
meeting
of
the
albany
common
council
topic
of
discussion
will
be
local
law
h
in
relation
to
police
department
statistics,
local
law
eye
in
relation
to
the
use
of
police,
video
cameras
and
local
law
j
in
relation
to
the
cprb
in
operation
of
that
for
the
record
committee
members
for
public
safety,
let's
see
alfredo
in
here.
B
A
Okay
balran
mr
igo,
is
here:
let's
see
miss
it's
a
lot
of
faces
on
this
screen.
I
don't
is
miss
frederick
here,
I'm
not
yes,
she
is.
She
is
okay
committee
member,
miss
frederick,
and
I
thought
I
saw
mr
hoey
there's
a
lot
of
well
he's
he's
not
here
just
yet.
Okay,
I'm
council
members,
hello,
I'm
here!
I
see
him.
Okay,
I'll,
see
you!
Okay!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
It's
so
jr.
Can
you
do
me
a
favor
and
just
run
through
the
other
members
here.
C
President
sure
give
me
one:
second,
president
of
the
common
council
is
councilwoman:
judy
doshay
council
member,
richard
conti
majority,
literature,
majority
leader,
jenny,
farrell,
council,
member
joyce,
love
council,
member
jamel,
robinson
council,
member
johnson
council
president
ellis
council,
member
flynn,
council
member
anani.
A
Yes,
we
need
a
couple
of
screens
here
to
keep
up
with
this,
but
thank
you,
everyone
for
for
joining
us
here,
they're
members
of
albany
police
department.
Our
cprb
are
here
corporation
councils
present.
Also,
okay,
yes,
okay,
so
just
getting
right
into
it
just
again.
The
whole
purpose
of
this,
like
most
of
the
country,
are
going
through
police
reforms
and
dealing
with
these
issues.
A
It's
about
increasing
accountability
and
and
transparency
with
with
our
police
service
and
and
trying
to
rebuild
the
public
trust
so
simply
put
it.
I
can
speak
more
on
that,
but
that
that's
what
this
really
this
really
is,
and
with
that
we
will
just
jump
right
into
the
legislation-
local
law
h.
First,
mr
baldwin,
would
you
want
to
say
something
about
that
or
I
could
just
speak
to
to.
E
You
could
speak
if
you
want.
You
know
you
of
the
of
the
of
the
committee.
It's
a
pretty
pretty
sensible
piece
of
legislation.
E
A
Yes,
so
also,
the
idea
is
that
I
I'm
sure
the
police
department
already
collects
this.
This
information
and
data
you
have
it
through
through
the
I
forget,
the
name
of
the
cac
or
or
whatever
it
is
the
place.
That
does
your
data,
but
we
we
want
this.
A
The
statistics
reported
out
to
the
council
and
in
turn,
which
will
make
its
way
to
our
website
and
and
and
be
there
for
us
to
share
with
our
constituents
just
to
you
know,
to
open
it
up
and
give
people
a
greater
idea
of
what's
going
on
so
that
that
is
local
law
h,
that's
so
I'll
I'll
keep
moving,
we'll
go
I'll
go
through,
you
know
mention
these,
and
then
we
can
talk
afterwards.
So
local
law
eye
is
is
the
next
one
and
it's
really
the
use
of
police
video
cameras.
A
Just
go:
go
ahead
and,
and
it's
a
part
of
a
policy
regarding
the
use
of
body
and
dashboard
cameras
and
require
reporting
when
officers
turn
them
off
in
the
idea
being
that
in
some
instances
they
get
turned
off
the
city
gets
sued
behind
that
or
in
some
nefarious
cases
or
situations
they
get
turned
off
to
conceal
any
wrongdoing.
So
the
idea
with
this
is
to
just
document
any
time
that
occurs,
not
that
things
are
being
done
wrong,
but
again,
sometimes
the
appearance
of
doing
something
wrong
is
is
damaging.
A
A
And
then
for
moving
on
to
the
next
piece
of
legislation,
which
is
the
big
one,
so-called
j
of
2020
in
relation
to
the
cprb
and
operation
of
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
you,
mr
conte,
to
just
jump
into
that.
For
me.
H
Okay
thanks,
so
this
makes
some
revisions
to
the
cprb,
some
of
which
have
been
spoken
about
for
a
while.
I
know
that
there
were
two
letters,
as
I
recall,
from
the
cprb
members.
H
An
earlier
one
and
a
later
one,
this
this
reflects
what
was
in
that
earlier
letter,
and
I
think
after
this
was
introduced.
The
second
letter
came
so
there
I
think,
there's
some
difference.
H
I
I
don't
think
the
first
one
addressed
the
issue
of
subpoena
power,
but
I
believe
that
was
included
in
the
second
cprp
letter,
so
the
subpoena
power
provision
in
this
proposal
might
not
match
what
was
in
the
later
letter
from
the
cprb,
just
because
it
was
a
timing
issue
in
terms
of
when
we
got
that
letter.
So
it
does
incorporate
some
of
those
recommendations.
I
think
all
of
the
recommendations
from
the
cbrb,
as
well
as
some
additional
recommendations
that
have
been
talked
about,
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
jump
through
it.
H
If
you
have
it,
I'm
looking
at
the
the
supporting
memo
and
the
summary-
and
you
know
it
makes
it
adds
a
definition
of
gender
to
begin
bring
in
the
inclusive
definition
of
gender
identity
or
expression.
It
does
provide
a
funding
floor
for
the
cprb
right
now.
The
the
cprb
funding
is
a
general
appropriation
in
the
in
the
budget,
which
has
always
been
250
000.
H
This
would
set
it
at
a
minimum
of
one
percent
of
what
the
police
department
budget
is,
which
I
believe,
based
on
the
current
level,
would
be
approximately
540
000
or
so
a
year.
There
are
some
technical
changes
yeah.
If
you
go
scrolling
scroll
to
right
great
jr,
there
are
some
technical,
some
changes
in
the
training
and
orientation
of
members
to
include
updates
on
relevant
changes
in
case
law
or
statutory
amendments.
H
H
H
It
does
make
some
changes
in
the
timing
of
reports
to
the
cprb
and
status
on
that
those
reports
related
to
status
of
investigations.
H
And
it
does
provide
some
authorization
again
for
them
to
undertake
independent
investigations
and
use
the
subpoena
power
that
is
after
an
internal
investigation
is,
is
taking
place,
and
I
think
this
is
the
area
where
there
might
be
some
variance
between
what's
in
here
and
what
was
in
the
second
letter
of
recommendations
that
we
received
from
the
cprb
and
then
there's
some
additional
in
provisions
on
findings
that
allows
them
to
make
a
finding
in
an
investigation.
H
This
would
make
a
change
so
that
it
have
to
be
concurrence
of
both
the
mayor
and
the
common
council
to
suspend
an
investigation
rather
than
one
party,
and
I
think
that's
those
are
the
main
provisions
and
I'd
say
there
are
some
technical
corrections,
but
that
those
are
the
that's
the
basic.
A
Thrust:
okay,
thank
you,
mr
conte,
and
so
with
that.
What
I
want
to
do
is
something
a
little
different
than
we
normally
do.
We
usually
take
public
comment
at
the
end,
but
I,
when
members,
both
public
safety
and
also
some
folks
from
the
city
are
responding
or
speaking,
I
want
it
to
be
somewhat
in
response
to
what
we
get
from
the
public.
So
michelle
who
do
we
have
people
here
in
the
room
from
the
public
that
that
you
got
him
in
a
order
to
allow
him
to
start
commenting.
B
I
think
we're
going
to
try
to
do
the
written
first,
since
we
already
have
that
in
the
recording,
because
sean
is
going
to
handle
that
and
then
I'm
going
to
send
off
something
in
the
chat
to
see.
If
anybody's
wanting
to
talk.
Okay,.
I
Okay,
I
have
the
first
recording
I'll
play
that
now.
J
Hi
my
name
is
dara
and
I
have
a
comment
about
the
public
safety
meeting.
That's
going
to
be
held
today.
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
a
public
comment.
My
son
was
assaulted
by
13
police
officers
last
new
year's
eve,
and
I
would
like
to
know
if
all
the
changes
that
are
being
requested
would
also
include
the
complaint
that
I
filed
back
in
february.
J
I
I
Her
comment
state,
I'm
writing
to
express
support
of
the
three
local
laws
being
reviewed
at
tonight's
public
safety
meeting.
I
submit
my
strong
support
from
a
place
deep,
a
place
of
deep
frustration
that
these
laws
have
not
already
been
passed,
and
this
conversation
has
not
progressed
further.
The
trust
in
our
elected
officials,
ability
to
adequately
advocate
and
defense
of
our
communities
that
are
over
police
has
been
dangerous,
has
been
damaged
severely
by
the
tepid
response
to
the
militarized
use
of
force
and
tear
gas
at
the
beginning
of
the
summer.
I
I
call
upon
the
common
council
to
take
bolder
actions
more
quickly
in
the
near
future.
Next
one
is
colin
clark,
hello,
my
name
is
colin
clark.
I
am
a
albany
resident.
I
want
to
urge
the
public
safety
committee
to
adopt
the
proposed
legislation-
local
law,
age
of
2020,
local
law,
eye
of
2020
local
lj
of
2020..
I
I
We
have
a
letter
from
the
center
for
the
center
for
law
and
justice
inc
from
alice
green.
That
is
very
lengthy,
three
pages
long
in
it.
She
does
suggest
some
helpful
inclusions
for
the
local
laws
that
are
on
the
table,
but
overall
she
is
in
support
of
the.
I
The
moves
to
address
the
issues
this
one
is
betsy
marcogliano
of
three
wilbur
street
in
albany.
I
write
and
encourage
adoption
of
the
three
local
laws
on
the
table
tonight
about
albany
police
policies,
specifically
body
cameras
must
be
on
compiling
data
and
getting
it
to
the
common
council
and
given
cprb
subpoena
powers.
I
Lord,
it
is
kind
of
shocking
that
all
of
these
things
aren't
already
law
in
albany.
I
have
said
for
years
that
cprb
needs
the
teeth
of
subpoena
powers,
albany
residents
know
and
the
powers
that
need
to
be
acknowledged.
Minneapolis
and
george
floyd
would
have
been
albany
axe,
alazar
williams
and
all
the
other
and
all
the
others
over
the
many
years
who
have
had
deadly
force
encounters
with
apd
wake
up.
Next
we
have
riley
schroeder
of
90
grand
street
albany
new
york,
who
is
in
the
police,
reform
and
reinvention
collaborative?
I
We
have
comments
from
chris
marcogliano,
three
wilburn
street
albany
new
york.
I
empathetically
sub
emphatically
support
the
body
camera
mandate
because,
as
long
as
certain
cops
know
that
no
one
is
watching
that
abuse
will
continue
unabated.
All
support,
support,
granting
the
cprv
greater
discovery
powers
and
think
that
additional
powers
are
necessary
as
well.
Board
needs
the
authority
to
conduct
misconduct,
hearings,
disciplinary
authority
and
the
power
to
evaluate
systemic
patterns,
practices,
policies
and
procedures
of
the
apd
in
order
to
commend
change
and
prevent
further
misconduct.
I
Two
mandated
that
city-owned
body
cameras
are
worn
and
turned
on
by
all
officers.
My
understanding
that
the
emphasis
here
is
on
our
special
units
and
that
reporting
be
done
if
they
are
turned
off
three
grant.
The
citizens
police
review
board
brought
up
discovery
powers,
often
called
subpoena
powers.
I
These
laws
are
very
important
to
provide
supervision
oversight
for
police,
to
hold
them
accountable
and
prevent
police
brutality.
In
addition,
mandating
demographic
information
be
reported
to
the
common
council
is
vital
to
be
able
to
have
clear
statistics
on
police
brutality
and
to
help
enact
reform
submitted
by
anita
of
196
mountain
who
drive
albany.
Her
comment
reads:.
I
This
is
also
a
lengthy
one
as
well.
I
didn't
read
all
the
way
through
it.
I
I
Police
reform
would
also
mean
a
diminished
role
for
police
and
community
disputes
and
enhanced
role
for
the
social
service
and
mental
health
providers.
Among
other
things,
she
says
it
falls
short
of
recommendation
made
by
the
made
previously
by
the
city
of
albany
county
police,
albany
community
police
review
board
said
the
council
received
two
sets
of
recommendation
and
talks
about
that.
It's
she
notes
that
there's
four
more
months
have
now
passed
since
the
council
receipt
of
those
recommendations.
I
She
says,
furthermore,
I
encourage
the
committee
to
to
review
all
recommendations
cprb.
I
especially
will
look
forward
to
a
proposal
incorporating
the
public
access
to
information
provisions
into
a
proposal
law
without
further
delay.
At
the
lessons
we
have
learned
in
community
as
a
community
as
a
country
following
the
murders
of
george
george
floyd
and
brianna
taylor,
many
others,
the
integrity
of
the
city
of
albany
and
its
leaders
require
an
earnest
attempt
to
be
better.
I
I
I
apologize
if
I'm
going
too
fast,
so
andrew
powers,
nine.
C
Andrew
powers,
94
9,
pine
avenue
apartment
one
albany,
the
city
of
albany-
needs
to
actually
do
something
for
their
residents,
besides
simply
paying
apd
to
harass
and
harm
poor
people.
Albany
ranks
highly
among
the
most
economically
and
racially
segregated
cities.
In
the
united
states,
albany
is
232
out
of
274
cities
on
overall
inclusion
in
2016
and
is
no
better.
Today,
the
politicians
of
albany
should
be
ashamed
to
show
their
faces
in
public
for
their
failure
to
do
anything
but
armed
apd
and
defund
social
programs.
C
Instead
of
fighting
poverty,
the
albany
local
government
has
chose
to
physically
fight
poor
people,
apd
assaulted,
peaceful
protesters
on
june
1st
and
june
3rd.
Putting
a
personal
friend
of
mine
in
the
hospital
multiple
cs
gas
con
canisters,
some
of
which
reported
to
be
expired,
were
deployed
and
40
millimeter
bullets
were
fired
at
protesters
exercising
their
first
amendment
rights.
The
violence
imposed
by
apd
was
not
limited
to
those
protesting,
as
chemical
warfare
is
not
limited
to
its
targets.
People
who
were
in
the
vicinity
were
also
exposed
to
expired
cs
gas,
including
people
in
their
homes.
C
No
officers
were
in
danger
at
any
point,
and
yet
they
employed
all
the
military-style
equipment
that
the
albany
local
government
allows
them
to
use
against
the
civilians.
Those
who
oversaw
and
participated
in
this
overt
violence
must
be
reprimanded
through
dismissal,
from
their
posts
and
prosecution
for
their
assaults.
The
civil
unrest
in
albany
over
the
summer
has
caught
was
caused
only
by
the
brutality
of
the
police,
as
evidenced
by
the
only
disturbances
happening
when
police
presence
was
high
at
a
given
protest.
C
Protests
occurred
nearly
every
day
somewhere
somewhere
in
the
capital
district
and
all,
but
the
two
mentioned
ended
with
unrest.
No
property
damage
justifies
violence
against
unarmed
civilians,
shame
on
anyone
who
expects
civilians
being
gassed
and
shot
to
behave,
but
not
the
officers
whom
the
city
employs
and
train
specifically
to
handle
distressed
civilians.
The
apd
only
escalated
sessions
at
protest
this
summer
and
therefore
have
demonstrated
how
useless
they
are
as
peace
officers.
The
brutality
of
our
local
police
has
not
been
addressed
in
any
way.
C
The
officers
need
to
be
brought
to
heal
and
prosecuted
for
their
violence.
Defund
the
police.
Now
every
apd
officer
is
a
major
lawsuit
waiting
to
happen,
sell
their
weapons
and
get
this
occupying
force
out
of
our
city.
They
do
not
belong
here
and
I
do
not
want
to
pay
for
their
violence
to
continue
the
next
one
is
susan,
blank
blake
233
union
street
number,
two
of
schenectady.
C
I'm
writing
in
support
of
these
of
the
motion
to
require
the
body
cameras
by
worn
and
turned
on
at
all
times,
as
well
as
granting
the
common
council
discovery
subpoena
powers
and
collecting
demographic
information.
That
is
when
then
available
to
the
common
council.
Let's
demonstrate
that
there
is
nothing
to
fear
and
transparency.
C
The
next
one
is
andrew
harness
of
18
terrace
avenue,
albany
police
reform.
Earlier
this
year.
I
was
really
hopeful
that
the
common
council
might
pursue
the
drastic
police
reform
that
is
so
transparently
needed.
The
community
has
voiced
its
concern
over
and
over
again,
yet
the
albany
police
department
has
faced
no
real
pushback
from
our
governing
body.
Painting
black
lives
matter
on
lock
street
and
putting
a
banner
up
on
city
hall
are
not
reforms.
C
These
empty
gestures,
don't
save
black
lives.
Please.
I
beg
you
to
take
this
matter
seriously
and
take
the
brave
action
that
is
so
needed
to
by
the
citizens
of
albany.
The
next
one
is
by
scott
waja
griffin,
38
edge
comb
street
albany.
I
am
commenting
in
favor
of
the
adoption
wait
until
it's
not
moving
of
local
law.
H,
I
j
of
2020.
C
each
is
a
common
sense
action
to
promote
accountability
in
the
city's
police
department
and
to
address
the
mistreatment
of
minority
community
members
in
a
timely
manner.
Local
law
eye
is
particularly
obvious
for
ensuring
fairness
and
accountability
and
policing.
The
protest
and
violence
over
the
past
year
has
put
the
spotlight
on
the
albany
police
department,
and
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
both
apd
and
the
community
for
these
laws
to
be
enacted.
C
The
next
one
is
david
easton,
20,
wilbur
street
albany.
I'm
generally
disappointed
with
the
way
albany
police
department
has
shirk
responsibility
when
it
comes
to
disparate
treatment
of
black
and
brown
people
in
the
city.
I
advocate
for
the
approval
of
three
new
laws
to
start
t.o
and
provo.
This
one
mandating
that
demographic
information
be
recorded
and
reported
to
the
common
council,
race,
gender,
age
and
ethnicity.
C
Two
mandating
that
city-owned
body
cameras
are
worn
and
turned
on
by
all
officers
parentheses.
My
understanding
is
that
emphasis
here
on
our
special
units
and
that
reporting
be
done
if
they
are
turned
off
three
granting
the
citizen
police
review
board
broader
discovery
powers
often
called
subpoena
powers.
Thank
you.
C
The
next
one
is
from
sarah
reed
59
linux
avenue
albany.
I
would
like
to
express
my
support
and
the
for
the
three
public
safety
laws
that
being
reviewed
this
evening.
All
three
support:
a
framework
of
accountability
that
is
much
needed
in
our
city
as
a
resident
of
albany,
it's
important
to
me
that
the
city
act
by
one
mandating
that
demographic
information
be
recorded
and
reported
to
the
common
council,
race,
gender,
age
and
ethnicity.
C
Two
mandating
that
city-owned
body
cameras
are
worn
and
turned
on
by
all
officers.
My
understanding
of
the
emphasis
years
are
special
units
and
that
reporting
be
done
if
they
turned
off
three
granting
the
citizens
police
review
board
broader
discovery
powers,
often
called
subpoena
powers.
Thank
you
for
your
support.
C
C
These
laws
would
include
awareness
of
current
practices
and
transparency
of
the
facts,
of
specific
incidents,
helping
to
identify
changes
to
policies
and
practices
and
strengthen
oversight
to
oversee
ensure
that
policies
are
followed.
We
believe
that
they
should
be
enacted
into
law
to
show
the
city's
commitment
to
these
goals,
as
albany
works
to
ensure
non-discrimination
in
law
enforcement
good
day.
I
must
say
that
our
that
any
proposed
plan
at
this
stage
is
illegitimate.
Why?
Why
do
I
say
this?
C
I
think
this
is
michelle.
Is
this
from
another
one?
I
believe
this
one
is
yes.
This
is
okay,
this
one's
from
rachel,
wilson,
albany
resident
madison
avenue.
I
believe
she
provided
one
orally
via
the
comment
line,
but
this
is
also
her
written
one.
So
I'll
read
it
in
lieu
good
day.
I
must
say
that
any
proposed
plan
at
this
stage
is
illegitimate.
Why
do
I
say
this?
There
hasn't
been
real
community
engagement,
involvement
from
onset.
What
whom
mayor
sheehan
brought
to
the
table
were
community
stakeholders,
I.e
business
owners,
clergy
activists?
C
This
is
not
in
step
with
governor
cuomo's
executive
order.
203
governor
cuomo
was
very
specific
as
to
what
community
participation
should
look
like
from
start
to
finish.
I
for
one
expressed
interest
before
meeting
began
to
take
shape.
Not
only
has
follow-up
been
inconsistent,
but
information
was
not
transparently
disseminated
in
a
timely
manner
if
at
all,
to
allow
for
robust
community
involvement.
At
one
point,
I
contacted
a
media
source
to
inquire.
What
was
happening
only
did
only
then
did
begin
to
receive
responses
from
the
mayor's
office.
C
Further
very
forms
of
technology
was
not
implemented,
which
might
help
foster
said
involvement
in
timely
information
sharing.
I
was
able
to
participate
on
one
collaborative
meeting.
Jasmine
higgins
was
supposed
to
followed
up
with
workshop
participation,
not
only
didn't
that
occur,
but
numerous
subsequent
attempts
to
find
out
what
was
happening
meeting
wise
were
unsuccessful.
C
C
C
C
And
then
this
is
the
letter
from
alice
green
and
I
will
read
it
in
its
entirety
to
the
albany
common
council
public
safety
committee.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
comment
on
proposed
local
law
h
I
and
j
now
before
the
committee.
The
center
for
law
and
justice
is
pleased
to
provide
the
common
council
with
our
reflection
on
these
matters.
Before
commenting
on
these
specific
proposed
laws,
I
would
like
to
offer
some
context.
The
remedies
before
the
public
safety
committee
today
are
minor
improvements
to
a
woefully
flawed
criminal
justice
system
plagued
by
systemic
racism.
C
As
we
speak,
the
albany
police
reform
collaborative
has
broken
into
working
groups
to
pursue
solutions
to
a
problem
the
collaborative
has
yet
to
articulate
not
once
during
the
months
the
collaborative
met
was
the
community
asked
to
provide
its
views
on
albany's
policing
reforms,
the
city,
the
city,
is
simply
not
facing
some
undeniable
truths.
Albany's
history
of
policing
is
one
profoundly
impacted
by
systemic
racism.
C
People
in
albany's
communities
of
colors
have
suffered
individual
and
collective
trauma
as
a
result
of
policing
contaminated
by
systemic
racism,
and
reform
must
be
accompanied
by
reckoning
policing
in
albany
cannot
be
reformed
without
acknowledging
and
addressing
the
trauma
caused
by
post
past
apd
actions.
Michelle
can
you
zoom
in
a
little
bit
a
little
hard
for
me.
C
Thank
you
had
the
collaborative
asked
the
center
for
law
and
justice,
one
of
the
most
experienced
justice
advocacy
organization
in
albany,
for
its
insight
on
the
problem
we
would
have
to.
We
would
have
told
them
that
the
situation
requires
bold
systemic
change.
We
would
have
told
them
that
the
collaborative
should
consider
completely
reconfiguring
services.
Perhaps
the
current
albany
police
department
budget
could
be
reallocated
to
a
newly
created
department
of
public
safety
instead,
without
ever
having
defined
the
problem,
the
city
has
decided.
C
The
solutions
lie
on
the
five
working
group
topics,
one
of
which
includes
the
three
law
laws
being
proposed,
a
civilian
oversight.
The
description
of
these
of
this
work
group
on
the
collaborative's
web
page
to
suggest
only
surface
reforms
when
what
is
needed
is
an
entirely
different
system
for
developing
implementing
and
enforcing
policing.
C
Policies,
the
whole
civilian
oversight,
system
and
structure
must
be
changed
so
that
independent
body
would
actually
have
disciplinary
authority.
The
center
sincerely
hopes
the
common
council
keeps
this
in
mind
when
considering
the
plan
that
would
produce
by
the
collaborative.
That
being
said,
the
three
laws
proposed
here
are
improvements
over
the
current
cprb.
C
The
center
endorses
proposed
local
law
h,
which
requires
the
gathering
and
supporting
of
statistics
on
race,
age,
ethnicity
and
gender,
and
the
reporting
of
these
statistics
through
the
common
council,
effective
monitoring
of
potentially
discriminatory
police
practice
can
only
be
accomplished
with
comprehensive
data.
C
We
also
support
the
requirement
that
a
supervisor
must
grant
approval
before
a
camera
can
be
turned
off
and
that
any
such
approval
must
be
documented,
along
with
the
reason,
while
the
center
approves
of
the
provision
that
the
chief
provide
the
common
council
on
a
quarterly
basis.
With
a
report
of
a
number
of
times,
cameras
have
been
turned
off
and
a
summary
of
the
reasons
the
request
was
approved.
C
The
center
report,
the
center
supports
proposed
local
law
j,
was
strengthened.
Community
police
review
board,
setting
the
annual
budget
of
the
cprb,
at
least
that
no
less
than
one
percent
of
the
albany
police
department
annual
budget
will
assist
in
funding
the
independent
investigations
to
be
conducted
by
the
cprb.
C
The
new
subsection
requiring
quarterly
reports
of
the
cpr
be
on
disciplinary
investigation,
and
actions
taken
within
the
police
department
is
appropriate.
It
is
as
it
is,
granting
the
cprb
the
authority
to
request
reports
on
whether
disciplinary
action
was
taken
in
a
subsist
in
any
specific
case
proposed
local
law
j
also
provides
the
cprb
access
to
information
related
to
prior
complaints
or
actions
on
any
officer
involved
in
a
complaint
and
access
to
relevant
audio
or
video
footage
pertaining
to
an
incident.
C
C
The
center
suggests
that
section
42-342-e
is
incomplete.
This
requires
that
if
the
apd
fails
to
make
footage
available
to
the
cprb
within
14
days
of
the
cprb's
request,
it
shall
forward
a
notice
to
the
cprb
and
the
common
council
explaining
the
delay.
Then
what
it
has
been.
The
center's
experience
that
the
request
for
information
from
the
apd,
including
foil
requests,
are
frequently
met
with
repeated
and
consecutive
delays.
Does
this
propose?
C
Lastly,
missing
from
proposed
local
rj
is
provision
that
authorizes
the
cprb
to
impose,
or
at
least
recommend
a
specific
discipline
for
an
officer
who
are
whom
a
complaint
has
been
sustained.
This
should
be
added
once
again.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
three
proposed
local
laws:
alice,
green
executive.
I
Did
you
want
me
to
read
the
complete
statement
from
miss
thayer
that
I
had
summarized?
I
Okay,
all
right,
anita,
thayer,
196,
mount
hope,
drive,
albany
new
york,
the
press
release
announced
in
today's
public
hearing
issued
by
the
mayor's
office
states
that
tonight's
public
safety
committee
will
be
discussing
legislation
prepared
in
response
to
calls
for
meaningful
police
reforms.
Unfortunately,
tonight's
public
safety
agenda
falls
far
short
of
meaningful
police
reforms.
I
A
meaningful
reform
would
mean
a
truly
independent
police
review
board,
with
the
unfettered
right
of
subpoena
and
the
authority
to
discipline
police
officers.
Police
and
reform
would
also
mean
a
diminished
role
for
police
and
community
disputes
and
an
enhanced
role
for
social
services
and
mental
health
providers.
Among
other
things,
the
local
law
is
being
reviewed
by
the
public
safety
committee
tonight
also
force
falls
far
short
of
the
recommendations
made
previously
by
the
city
of
albany's
community
police
review
board
cprb.
I
The
common
council
received
two
sets
of
recommendations
regarding
much-needed
policing
reforms
for
the
city
of
albany,
from
the
community
police
review
board
in
on
june
22,
2020
and
july
5th.
2020..
The
cprb
is
a
valuable
resource
for
the
city
of
albany.
Its
members
volunteer
endless
amounts
of
time
to
fulfill
the
mission
of
the
cprb.
I
The
cprb
proceeded
in
a
prompt
and
timely
manner
to
bring
forth
their
important
recommendations
pursuant
to
their
statutory
authority.
These
recommendations
should
not
be
discarded
or
set
aside
without
council
review.
The
pending
local
laws
are
no
substitute
for
the
more
comprehensive
approach
of
the
cprb.
I
I
noted
that
four
months
have
now
passed
since
the
council's
receipt
of
these
recommendations.
The
public
safety
committee
now
has
before
three
proposal
laws
an
answer
to
the
cbrb's
cprb's
need
for
subpoena
power.
Local
lj
includes
a
protracted
convoluted
process,
rather
than
the
direct
language
to
apply
for
subpoena
that
was
proposed
by
the
cprb.
I
I
urge
this
committee
to
re-example
re-examine
sections
42-3
343
proposed
local
law,
j,
subsections
g
and
h,
and
consider
replacing
these
provisions
with
the
subpoena
language
proposed
by
the
cprb.
In
the
first
section
of
their
letter
of
july
5th
2020.,
the
cprb
proposed
that
there
be
a
civil
or
criminal
penalty
for
an
officer.
Deactivating,
an
audio
or
video
recording
local
law
h
simply
proposes
a
paper
trail.
I
I
I
I
especially
will
look
forward
to
a
proposal
incorporating
the
public
access
to
information
provisions
into
a
proposed
local
law
without
further
delay.
After
the
lessons
we
have
learned
as
a
community
and
as
a
country
following
the
murders
of
george
floyd
and
brianna
taylor
and
many
others,
the
integrity
of
the
city
of
albany
and
its
leaders
require
an
earnest
attempt
to
be
better.
Let's
fix
local
law,
j
pass
local
laws
h
and
I
and
then
settle
down
the
serious
business
of
reimagining
how
we
deal
with
our
safety
as
a
community.
A
Yeah,
okay,
this
is
written.
No.
I
noticed
that
dr
green
popped
in
we
read
your
your
letter,
dr
green.
Was
there
anything
you
care
to
add
or
we
can't
we
can't
hear
you.
A
Myself,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So,
at
this
point,
we
we,
the
community
members
in
the
in
the
room
right
now,
will
have
to
get
a
comment
from
from
you
all,
which
would
include
the
cprb
members
and
and
other
folks
that
are
here
so
jr
or
michelle.
Can
you
work
that
out
based
on
response
or
when
they
apply
to
speak.
A
Is
there
no
one
jasmine.
A
L
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
so
I
have
three
comments.
Rather
two
questions
and
one
comment.
I
will
be
responding
to
the
comment
that
was
leveled
against
me
by
miss
wilson.
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen.
Give
me
one
moment.
Please.
L
Oh
okay,
all
right,
then
I'll
just
read
the
email
that
I
said,
one
of
five
emails
that
I
sent
to
miss
wilson.
Thank
you
for
your
message.
The
collaborative
is
not
solely
comprised
of
public
and
private
businesses,
but
rather
a
group
of
diverse
folks
from
all
walks
of
life
who
represent
a
variety
of
organizations.
L
This
includes
two
grassroots
two
groups
that
emerged
during
the
protest:
518
snug,
also
known
as
cure
violence,
individuals
that
have
been
just
as
involved
the
african-american
clergy,
the
head
of
the
human
rights
commission,
black
nurses
coalition
and
a
variety
of
other
trusted
community
leaders
to
name
a
few.
I
understand
and
appreciate
your
interest
and
desire
to
have
a
seat
at
the
table.
We
made
a
calculated
decision
to
invite
trusted
community
leaders
and
organizations
to
represent
the
affected
communities
and
neighborhoods
to
the
plenary.
L
Please
reference
the
below
link
to
the
webpage,
dedicated
to
the
city
of
albany,
police
and
collaborative
the
press,
release
announcing
the
collaborative
and
the
37
members
can
be
found
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
In
addition,
all
documents
and
assigned
readings
share
with
the
collaborative
either
have
been
or
will
be
posted
to
the
city
webpage.
I
then
link
to
the
web
page
dedicated
to
the
collaborative
and
said
I
would
reach
out
to
miss
wilson
once
the
working
groups
are
finalized.
L
I
then
exchanged
two
to
three
more
emails
with
her,
but
please
do
understand
that
many
of
the
emails
I
received
from
miss
wilson
were
received
after
normal
business
hours
and
while
I
do
frequently
respond
and
attend
to
emails
and
work
after
5
p.m.
I
do
not
believe
it
can
be
expected
that
I
respond
after
6
p.m.
7
p.m,
8
p.m.
Frequently
and
habitually.
L
I
have
provided
miss
wilson
with
a
website.
I've
updated
had
the
website
updated
and
as
timely
fashion
as
possible,
given
the
large
amount
of
documents
and
information
that
we
have
consumed
and
just
so
you're
all
aware.
She
I
have
responded
to
her
emails,
but
have
received
over
30
emails
and
phone
calls
from
miss
wilson
alone.
L
So,
while
I
do
think
that
it's
really
important
that
we
collect
data
about
race,
ethnicity,
gender
and
those
characteristics,
I
was
wondering
how
we
as
a
city
and
apd,
can
ensure
that
implicit
bias
doesn't
become
part
of
that
observation
about
race
or
ethnicity.
Of,
for
example,
let's
say
that
profiling
was
a
reason.
Racial
profiling
was
a
reason
for
a
stop,
and
then
an
officer
observed
said
race
and
that
only
serves
to
confirm
the
bias.
L
I'm
not
saying
that
we
shouldn't
collect
the
information,
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
can
ensure
that
implicit
bias
doesn't
continue
or
occur
in
this
process,
and
I
understand
that
this
legislation
is
modeled
after
the
community
policing
act
that
was
passed
in
virginia
and
that
similar
laws
have
been
passed
in
several
states
and
several
cities.
L
That's
just
a
question
that
I
have
and
then,
with
respect
to
the
cprb,
given
some
of
the
discussions
that
we've
had
during
the
police
collaborative
and
some
of
these
working
group
meetings
that
were
we've
started
to
have,
I
was
wondering
if
the
consideration
of
diverting
funds
or
providing
funds
for
some
of
the
recommendations
that
might
come
about,
including
the
creation
of
a
database
where
folks
can
track
police
misconduct
in
the
city
of
albany.
L
Just
one
being
one
example,
something
that
would
require
administration
would
require
funds
to
get
such
a
database
up
and
running
an
analyst.
You
know
someone
who
can
make
it
accessible
to
the
community
things
like
that,
which
is
not
to
say
that
I
don't
believe
the
cprb
should
get
additional
funds,
but
you
know
we
do
have
to
think
of
the
reforms
that
might
come
out
of
this.
That
could
potentially
be
costly
and
more
reflective
of
what
the
community
ends
up
wanting.
A
A
M
Hi
everybody
I'm
danielle
hilly,
I'm
at
46,
myrtle
ave.
I
have
a
couple
of
things
I'm
going
to
try
to.
I'm
probably
got
out
of
order,
but
I
was
listening
to
comments
and
I'm
going
to.
I
have
a
few
comments
on
those,
but
the
first
one
that
I
need
to
say
is,
though
I
really
do
appreciate.
M
Council
staff
like
for
making
these
happen
and
for
making
sure
that
you
reach
out
to
as
many
of
us
as
you
can.
I
think,
under
the
circumstances
that
you
know,
great
consideration
has
been
made,
and
I
also
think
that
one
of
the
benefits
that
may
have
come
out
of
this
pandemic
is
the
ability
to
do
this
as
like
to
do
these
zoom
calls
and
to
have
far
more
transparency
like
I
can
hear,
what's
being
said
in
these,
and
you
know,
there's
the
ability
to
go
back
and
watch
them
so
like.
M
I
really
think
that
that
has
made
it
a
lot
easier.
It's
also
made
it
a
lot
easier
for
many
of
us
who
are
very
community
involved
to
be
able
to
participate
in
these
because
they
don't
have
to
go
anywhere.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
in
regards
to
local
law
eye,
as
somebody
who's
worked
for
several
years
with
victims.
M
I
am
a
bit
concerned
about
the
awkward
moment
in
between
a
request
for
a
camera
to
be
turned
off
and
an
officer
getting
permission
and
explaining
to
their
superior
as
to
why
that
camera
has
been
turned
off.
I
would
will
use
for
this
circumstance
a
rape
victim
who
has
been
encountered
by
an
albany
police
officer
who
is
now
asking
to
not
be
filmed.
Maybe
very
emotional,
may
not
be
feel
comfortable
being
on
film.
We're
now
asking
that
officer
to
say
hold
on
ma'am.
M
I
understand
that
you
have
just
been
violated,
but
I
need
to
ask
permission
before
I
can
turn
this
camera
off
and
then
are
going
to
have
to
have
some
kind
of
a
conversation
with
their
superior.
That
goes
maybe
something
like
you
know
sergeant
so,
and
so
I
have
a
rape
victim
who
is
disheveled
and
very
upset?
M
You
know,
and
she
does
not
want
to
be
on
this
video
camera
like
how
does
that
happen?
Does
he
walk
away
from
the
victim
and
do
that
like?
How
are
we
going
to
account
for
situations
where
the
victim
may
not
want
to
be
videotaped,
or
if
it's,
let's,
it's,
not
an
adult
rape
victim?
What
if
it's
a
child
rape
victim
like
there
has
to
be
some
consideration
in
this?
They
also
would
like
to
know
what
that
consideration
would
be
in
foiling.
I
think
that
body
cameras
should
be
able
to
be
released
to
the
public.
M
You
know
that
was
a
discussion
that
we've
had
with
the
community
for
a
long
time,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
they're,
if
we're
going
to
restrict
their
ability
to
grant
a
victim
survivor
with
the
ability
to
turn
off
that
camera,
that
we
have
some
way
to
stop
that
interaction
from
ending
up
in
public
hands,
because
that
is
extremely
inappropriate.
In
my
opinion.
M
The
second
thing
I
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
was
there
a
provision?
Is
there
a
provision
to
ensure
that
the
cprb
has
an
independent
attorney?
I
one
of
my
largest
issues
when
it
comes
to
the
cprv
is
how
much
they
need
to
rely
on
the
police
department.
M
I
think
that
they
they,
you
know,
the
police
department,
does
their
investigations
and,
if
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
they
have
that
they
have
they're
able
to
make
an
independent
decision.
That's
not
in
any
way
biased
by
co-workers
of
these
officers,
then
we
should
also
ensure
that
there
is
an
attorney
that
is
their
own
attorney.
That
is
not
the
city's
attorney.
When
it
comes
to
data
collection,
I
will
have
to
say
what
I've
been
able
to
obtain
thus
far
when
it
comes
to
data
collection.
M
This
city
is
really
concerning
and
alarming
to
me.
I'm
not
sure
how
we're
going
to
mandate
additional
data
if
they
are
not
keeping,
if
they're
not
ensuring
the
integrity
of
the
data
that
they
already
collect,
I'm
not
even
sure
how
they
use
that
data
for
things,
because
it
seems
incredibly
flawed
and
incomplete.
M
I'm
I
don't
understand
how
there
can
be
fields
that
are
blank
and
no
supervisor
has
gone
back
to
ensure
in
a
timely
manner
that
those
fields
are
filled
in
so
I'm
concerned
with
requesting
more
data.
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
collect
more
data,
but
I'm
concerned
with
requesting
that
data
and
how
that
data
is
going
to
be
used.
M
If
that
data
seems
to
go
in
flawed
and
come
back
out
a
mess,
so
I
think
that
before
we
can
ask
to
collect
more
data,
there
needs
to
be
some
work
done
in
addressing
how
the
analysts
work,
how
the
data
is
collected,
how
it's
utilized.
As
for
the
collaborative
like
as
a
I'm,
actually
the
co-chair
of
the
the
general
orders-
and
you
know
it's.
M
How
do
I
put
this
it?
It's
kind
of
concerning
that
the
community
continues
to
diminish
the
the
value
of
the
members
that
are
on
it
because
they
are
not
on
it.
I
know
how
that
sounds,
and
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
get
a
whole
bunch
of
backlash
for
that,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
really
qualified
black
and
brown
people
who
come
from
communities
that
are
heavily
policed.
M
M
So
you
know
that
is
a
completely
different,
separate
conversation,
that's
separate
from
what's
going
on
here
today,
but
I
just
needed
to
say
that,
because
I
do
think
there
are,
you
know
I've
I've
read
through
the
guidelines
that
group
does
meet
the
guidelines
when
you
look
at
who
should
be
on
it
and
how
you
know
their
basic
play
out
for
it.
So
can
we
do
bet
more.
M
Of
course,
we
can
always
do
more,
but,
given
that
you
have
you
know
all
volunteers
and
that
we're
taxing
the
staff
that's
available,
I
think
that
you
know
we
should
see
what
comes
from
it
and
you
know
I
I
I
support
us
putting
in
additional
measures
and
I
think
that
it's
going
to
be
a
work
in
progress,
but
I
don't
I
do
have
you
know.
M
I
do
have
serious
concerns
about
the
situations
with
the
body
cameras
and
I
think
that
we
had
spoken
about
this
many
times
previously
in
public
forums
about
that.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to.
N
Hello,
so
thank
you
as
everybody
else.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
share
my
thoughts
and
be
part
of
this
conversation,
and
I
want
to
echo
the
sentiment
that
I
do
appreciate
that
we're
able
to
attend
these
meetings
via
zoom
call
now
and
that
we
can
watch
them
again
and
we
can
participate
because
I
feel
like
that
was
really
a
barrier
before
and
being
able
to
participate.
So,
thank
you.
N
You
know,
I
think
for
me.
I
really
support
the
three
things
that
that
are
being
put
forward
and
I'm
encouraged
to
see
on
the
results
of
the
survey
and
I'm
encouraged
to
see
that
we're
looking
for
places
where
things
were
implemented
and
identifying
best
practices
across
the
nation
and
trying
to
find
a
good
fit
for
us.
N
But
I
do
think
where
we're
falling
short
is
that
we
had
an
opportunity
or
we
were
tasked
with
reimagining
what
policing
would
be,
and
I
think
especially
given
the
fact
that
we've
had
such
a
dramatic
increase
of
folks
who
have
mental
health
and
or
substance
abuse
issues
and
that's
not
being
addressed,
is
enormous
and
we
have
all
these
open
spots
on
the
police
force.
Where
we
can't
hire
police,
or
at
least
according
to
what
the
you
know,
the
chief
is
saying
in
these
meetings
with
people
is
that
people
don't
want
to
work
here.
N
Why
don't
we
have
a
mental
health
response
task
force?
Why
don't?
We
have
those
type
of
things
as
opposed
to
building
the
police
force.
I
think
we're
missing
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
deconstruct
what
we
have
and
build
what
works
best
for
us,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
you
know,
replace
the
wheel
on
the
jeep
that
we've
had
since
1922.,
and
you
know
when
it
comes
to
things
like,
for
example,
the
data
collection.
N
A
great
point
was
brought
up,
there's
a
saying,
if,
for
those
of
you
out
here
on
the
call
that
do
data
collection,
garbage
and
garbage
out,
if
you
don't
have
reliable
data,
whatever
you
pull
from
that
is
going
to
be
trash
you're,
not
you
have
to
be
able
to
have
a
control.
You
have
to
be
able
to
have
a
consistent
amount
of
reporting
to
be
able
to
identify
patterns.
If
you
don't
have
those
things,
then
that
effort
is
not
going
to
bring
anything.
So
that
means
considering
you
know.
N
Somebody
else
suggested
a
budget
in
terms
of
an
analyst
or
or
more
structure
around
how
we're
we're
saying
that
we
want
things
to
be
done
or
see
things
done,
I'm
not
sure
how
it
could
be
helpful
to
alice
green's
point
about
the
foils
and
being
able
to
say
give
an
explanation
when
things
aren't
provided
within
14
days.
She's,
absolutely
right
that
happens
continuously
with
foils.
All
they
have
to
do
is
continue
to
send
a
letter
and
it's
a
consistent,
we'll
say
government
pattern.
N
I
don't
want
to
say
you
know
albany
city,
but
across
the
new
york
state
government
is
an
issue,
so
I
think
that's
also
a
really
valid
point.
I
think
I
just
really
want
to
plug
for
us
looking
outside
of
just
fixing,
what's
broken
and
really
taking
a
step
back
and
seeing
if
what
is
here
can
can
be
changed
and
in
any
way
to
work
better
for
our
city
and
its
citizens.
N
The
idea
here
is
that
it's
not
the
police
officers
themselves
that
are
racist
or
implicitly
biased,
individual
human
beings
that
are
just
out
here
trying
to
wreak
havoc
on
people.
I
don't
think
generally
that's
what
people
wake
up
to
do.
It's
an
institution.
N
It
doesn't
matter
what
color
the
police
officer
is
they're
part
of
a
job,
they're
part
of
an
institution,
a
place
of
work
that
has
a
certain
attitude
and
way
of
operating
that
permeates
the
way
the
person
behaves
and
when
what
all
we
do
is
say.
Okay,
well
we're
going
to
tweak
this
and
tweak
that
that's
not
changing
culture.
It's
not
changing
attitude.
It's
not
changing
bias!
N
That's
my
concern!
So,
yes,
I
think
these
three
things
are
great,
but
it's
it's
a
small
start.
It's
it's
not
nearly
reaching
what
I
think
that
we
need
to
do,
and
it's
personally
evidence
for
me
and
the
fact
that
I've
lived
in
more
than
one
neighborhood
in
this
city
and
living
in
one
neighborhood
for
15
years
and
then
coming
back
to
live
to
another
one
and
being
treated
completely
differently.
Based
on
where
I
live
is
just.
N
I
think
evident
that
there's
attitudes
about
whether
it's
the
color
of
people's
skins
or
the
places
that
they
live
there's
bias,
and
we
need
to
be
doing
more
about
that
and
how
are
we
going
to
to
restructure
things
to
to
to
avoid
it,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
just
fault
finding
and
trying
to
just
correct
little.
You
know
putting
the
the
sealant
on
the
cracks
in
the
dam,
so
thank
you.
C
O
You
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name
is
luke
grandis,
I'm
a
resident
of
367
state
street
albany
and
a
couple
of
items
that
I'd
like
to
address
are
solidifying
the
language
in
the
legislation
around
the
subpoena
powers
that
are
held
by
the
c,
our
cprb,
to
make
sure
that
it's
more
clear
in
the
legislation
and
does
not
leave
too
much
room
up
for
discretion,
another
one
being
that
what
I
think
is
missing
from
some
of
this
legislation
that
could
be
and
should
be
included,
is
a
mention
of
what's
happening
with
asset
forfeiture
in
terms
of
the
albany
city
police
department.
O
What's
happening
with
asset
forfeiture.
Currently,
where
is
that
money
going?
Can
it
be
going
into
education
and
all
the
other
social
services
that
have
been
cut
across
the
board?
Right
now?
I
think
that's
a
really
crucial
thing
that
could
be
included
in
this
legislation.
That
would
make
a
large
difference,
because
otherwise,
as
of
right
now,
we
have
no
idea
when
a
police
raid
happens
and
money
is
confiscated
along
with
drugs
and
other
things
that
have
a
monetary
value
attached
to
them.
Where
that
money's
going.
O
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
transparency
around
that,
but
also
some
direct
intentionality
in
it
being
re
reallocated
into
the
communities
who
need
it
most
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
just
wanted
to
basically
ask
if
the
facebook
comments
that
are
made
and
comments
that
are
made
throughout
these
forums
are
actually
documented,
read
and
reviewed
for
times
when
folks
are
not
able
to
engage
in
these
meetings.
O
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
to
see
if
those
are
being
reviewed-
and
my
final
statement
would
be
today.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
initial
report
of
the
racial
bias
audit
was
released,
claiming
that
we
don't
know
if
this
disparity
is
due
to
actual
racial
bias.
So
what
I'd
like
to
know
is
what
investigation
is
needed
to
prove
that?
The
reason
that
black
people
are
predominantly
being
arrested
is
because
they're
black,
I'm
not
sure
what
other
evidence
is
needed
besides
these
numbers.
O
But
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
clarification
besides
just
saying
that
we
see
a
large
disparity
in
racial
arrests,
but
we
need
more
investigation
to
tie
this
to
actually
being
about
race,
and
so
those
would
be
my
final
statements
for
this
evening.
Thank
you.
P
Good
evening,
everyone,
nairobi,
vivez
I'm
a
member
of
the
cprb
and
also
on
the
collaborative
as
well.
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
know
the
the
meeting
started
with
the
council
members
saying
that
that
the
local
laws
were
prepared
prior
to
receiving
the
second
letter
from
the
cprb,
but
just
to
echo
a
few
things
that
alice
green
wrote
in
her
letter
and
also
anita
anita
thayer
and
other
members
of
the
community
had
said.
P
I
know
that
I
know
that
we
are
still
working
on
the
collaborative.
I
know
that
that
the
information
that
the
or
the
proposals
that
the
cprb
put
forth
hadn't
been
fully
considered,
but
I
would
urge
the
common
council
to
at
least
with
local
law
jay,
reconsider
the
language
on
the
subpoena
power.
Look
at
what
the
the
language
in
our
second
letter
and
work
from
there.
I
I
think
that
what
we
try
to
put
together
is
what
many
are
asking
for.
P
What
we
agree
with
and
what
I
personally
agree
with
just
as
a
citizen
of
albany,
is
that
the
cprv
needs
to
be
more
independent
and
the
the
subpoena
power
needs
to
be
removed
from
investigative
powers
needs
to
be
removed
from
just
reviewing
the
cases
after
the
after
the
office
of
professional
standards
reviews
complaints.
P
Additionally,
I
think
danielle
spoke
on.
We
did
ask
for
the
ability
to
hire
independent
counsel
and
not
be
tied
to
the
corporation
counsel
for
the
city
we
spoke
of
in
our
previous
meetings
of
the
cprb,
the
inherent
conflict
that
is
there
so
there
just.
I
would
ask
that.
I
know
that
we
are
continuing
in
this
process
through
the
collaborative
work,
and
I
know
that
the
that
the
council
has
received
our
letter,
but
I
just
urge
you
know
further
consideration
of
what
we
what
we
are
asking
for.
P
D
C
Q
I
just
wanted
to
add
really
quickly,
I'm,
as
many
of
you
know,
the
government
law
center
at
albany
law
school,
where
I
work,
provides
staffing
services
to
the
police
review
board,
I'm
also
on
the
mayor's
collaborative
specifically
on
the
committee
on
civilian
oversight,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize,
along
with
what
everybody
else
has
pointed
out,
that
the
members
of
the
police
review
board,
and
certainly
the
members
of
the
collaborative,
are
also
working
on
other
issues
that
have
not
yet
been
discussed
in
the
cprb's
letters
that
were
submitted
this
summer.
Q
Q
Certainly,
the
board
has
already
mentioned
independent
counsel,
independent
investigative
authority,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
whatever
action
the
common
council
takes,
it
does
so
bearing
in
mind
that
there
are
certain
to
be
further.
You
know,
recommendations
and
thoughts
coming
from
both
the
collaborative
and,
I
suspect,
the
board
itself,
and
that
for
all
of
these,
I
just
to
put
in
my
own
opinion
briefly.
Q
The
key
to
almost
all
of
this
is
effective
staffing
and
support
for
the
functions
that
are
being
given.
So
if
you're
going
to
have
the
board
disciplining
people,
they
need
staff
who
can
help
them
with
that
process.
If
you're
going
to
have
investigations
same
thing
is
true,
and
so
you
know
some
of
the
recommendations
that
the
that
the
board
has
made
so
far
talk
about
the
need
for
those
kind
of
services.
Q
There's
also
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
envisioning
how
that's
going
to
work
structurally
to
make
sure
that
it's
effective,
because,
as
you
know,
as
some
folks
have
said,
it's
great
to
have
a
data
data
analyst
well,
who
are
they?
Where
do
they
report
to
and
who
has
responsibility
for
making
sure
that
all
of
that
stuff
works
works
well,
but
but
basically
I
just
wanted
to
speak
up
just
to
to
say
that
there's
there's
more
coming
and
I
certainly
didn't.
Q
I
know
the
members
of
the
cprb,
in
particular
the
bylaws
and
rules
committee,
which
worked
on
those
recommendations,
thought
it
was
very
important
that
the
common
council
be
aware
that
those
were
not
sort
of
the
extent
of
the
cprb's
view
on
what
changes
need
to
be
made
for
the
cprp
to
be
effective.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Is
that
all
for
for
comments?
Mister.
O
O
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone
and
invite
everyone
on
the
common
council
who's
on
this
call
right
now,
as
well
as
all
members
of
the
collaborative,
with
the
exception
of
apd,
to
attend
a
in-person
public
community
forum,
taking
place
tomorrow
in
front
of
saint
joseph's
park
in
ten
rogue
triangle,
to
hear
directly
from
community
members
who
may
not
have
internet
access,
who
may
have
hearing
impairments
and
not
be
able
to
access
these
meetings
due
to
their
not
being
closed
captions,
and
so
we
really
invite
individuals
to
come
out
and
hear
directly
from
the
community,
specifically
in
regard
to
police
reforms
and
their
recommendations,
testimonies
and
suggestions.
A
Okay,
so
with
that
I'll
take
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee
members,
if
you
you
all,
have
anything
to
add
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
council
members
before
getting
to
apd.
E
Thank
you,
sir.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
community
members
that
you
know,
vote
in
and
are
here
today
are
sharing
and
expressing
their
concerns.
I
also
want
to
make
it
clear
that
this
is.
E
You
know,
a
big
bigger
than
what
we
have
here
today
and
we
understand
that,
but
we
have
to
start
somewhere.
So
you
know
you
know
we
have
to
take
those
first
steps
and
we
have
to
have
those
conversations
and
we
have,
to
you
know,
start
with
some
legislation
and
see
how
we
can
make
it,
make
it
better
and
make
it
stronger
and
make
it
usable
on
the
ground.
You
know
that's
what
I
always
look
at.
How
is
this
going
to
be
on
the
ground?
E
How
is
this
going
to
be
implemented
on
the
ground
and
how
is
it
going
to
be
done
efficiently
and
effectively?
So
you
know
we
have
to
have
those
conversations,
and
I
know
they'll
and
I'll-
take
the
hit
as
a
someone
who
introduced
one
of
these
pieces
of
legislation.
E
You
know
that
you
know
we're
here
in
november
and
not
in
september.
You
know
I'll
take
the
hit
for
that,
but
we're
here
we're
here
now
and
we're
here
to
have
these
conversations,
and
you
know
I'm
glad
that
community
members
are
here,
I'm
glad
that
apd
is
here.
I'm
glad
we
have
almost
a
full
council
here
as
well
as
the
administration
here,
because
we
need
all
these
voices
in
the
room,
so
we
can
have
change
that
is
implementable
and
effective
and
actually
creates
a
better
system
for
our
city.
R
Thank
you
just
want
to
say
first,
thank
you
to
everyone
who
spoke
tonight,
there's
a
tremendous
turnout
of
comments,
both
written
and
via
video
today
that
we
definitely
appreciate
we
want
to
hear
from
the
community
and
like
in
the
comments
that
everyone
has
on
these
topics,
which
are
very
important
to
our
community.
R
Two
comments
were
brought
up
that
I
do
want
to
discuss
so
looking
at
local
law
j
and
making
sure
that
we
make
amendments
based
on
the
second
letter
sent
by
the
cprb.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
crucial
to
make
amendments
before
we
move
forward.
In
my
opinion,
and
then.
Secondly,
I
think
my
constituent
brought
up
the
body
cam
legislation
and
really
making
sure
that
a
process
is
in
place
for
people
who,
for
example,
might
have
some
form
of
the
word
was
use
awkwardness
or
uncomfort
with
having
to
have
the
body.
R
Cam
turned
off
not
saying
that
that
needs
to
become
part
of
the
legislation,
but
saying
that's
a
process
that
should
be
thought
of
if
this
legislation
does
move
forward
and
then
finally,
there
was
a
comment
made
by
a
constituent
about
making
sure
that
we
read
facebook
comments.
A
S
T
S
Do
believe
that
the
difficult
one
is
going
to
be
the
c
prb
reform,
if
you
want
to
call
it
our
changes
years
ago,
when
we
put
this
piece
of
legislation
together,
karen
mclaughlin
was
heading
off
in
dominic
casolero.
S
It
was
a
compromise
that
the
subpoena
power
they
would
just
ask
the
council
for
it.
This
might
be
a
what
better
way
to
go
the
way
they're
asking
some
of
it
right
now,
but
for
16
years
it's
never
been
asked
for
so
up
to
this
point,
I
know
I
also
with
new
members
that
it's
coming
up
again
or
it's
just
the
environment
that
we're
in
so
just
just
something
I've
been
thinking
about.
Thank
you.
A
Anyone
else,
mr.
H
Conte
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
all
the
speakers
and
the
comments
and
the
the
recommendations
which
are
very
helpful
and
valuable,
as
we
you
know,
continue
considering
these
local
laws
and
other
other
provisions
just
wanted
to
on
the
cprb
provision.
Again,
the
first,
the
I
believe
we
incorporated.
H
I
know
we've
incorporated
the
recommendations
within
the
first
letter
that
we
received
and
then
there
and
that
letter
did
not
specifically
address
subpoena
power,
but
the
provisions
that
we
put
in
local
law
jay
did
eliminate
the
restrictions
on
the
cprb's
use
of
subpoena
power,
namely
having
to
go
to
the
council
for
approval,
etc.
So
we
did.
We
did
greatly
expand
that
option
and
the
opportunity
for
the
cprb
to
use
that
and
then
the
second
letter
which
came
as
was
indicated
after
we
had
drafted
this
and
introduced.
H
H
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
the
the
recommendations
from
the
cprb,
at
least,
to
my
mind,
are
important
in
terms
of
guiding
us
as
far
as
what
type
of
revisions
or
reforms
we
want
to
make,
because
those
are
the
members
who
are
involved
in
this
process
and
understand
the
need.
H
Currently,
the
contract
is
with
the
albany,
with
the
government
law
center
at
albany
law,
and
you
know
that's
one
provision
that
mike
that
contract
might
continue.
That's
a
discussion
that
has
to
be
had,
but
was
also
meant
to
open
up
the
opportunity
for
the
cpr
to
be
to
hire
their
own
staff
or
have
additional
resources
to
do
investigations,
which
could
also
include
an
attorney.
H
So
that's
something
that's
very
much
on
the
table
for
discussion
and
I
think
those
were
the
two
main
provisions
I
wanted
to
just
comment
on,
but,
as
I
said,
this
is
a
really
evolving
discussion
and
comments
that
we
hear
tonight
are
really
important
and
very
helpful,
and
those
are
two
areas
I
know
in
terms
of
peanut,
power
and
and
staffing
are
two
areas
that
we
need
to
continue
to
have
some
further
discussion
on
and
see
how
we
can
address
those,
because
I
think
we
need
to
address
those
in
a
proactive
way.
S
Richard
could
you
send
a
copy
of
that
second
second
letter
to
us
on
the
cprb,
give
us
something
to
think
about.
A
Okay,
any
other
members,
if
not
danielle,
go
ahead.
Don't
oh
mr
hold
on
daniel
mr
robinson.
U
Hi,
yes,
thank
you,
so
I
just
just
have
a
comment
about
the
data
collection.
U
I
do
believe
that
again,
as
a
community
member
said
that
trash
data
in
equals
trash
that
out,
so
I
think
that
you
know
we
should
also
look
at
higher
and
higher
to
see
pbr
be
hiring
an
independent
analyst
to
analyze
much
of
the
data
that
the
police
department
has
and
then
also
I
read
in
the
times
union
today
that,
regarding
you
know,
data
that
there
was
a
data
loss
that
happened
in
apd,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
how
the
data
is
also
housed
and
where
it
is
housed
and
who
has
you
know
the
access
to
make
sure
that
the
data
that
this
data
loss
that
the
times
union
mentioned
today
in
today's
paper
won't
happen
again.
V
So,
thank
you
to
everybody
for
their
comments.
I'm
particularly
appreciative
of
the
people
who
have
been
serving
on
the
police
review
board
and
appreciate
the
time
that
they
have
taken
to
provide
comments
as
well
a
couple
thoughts
that
I
have
with
regard
to
local
law
age.
V
Since
some
of
this
information
may
already
be
available,
and
since
we
may
not
want
to
wait
for
a
full
year
after
adoption
to
get
an
initial
report-
and
we
might
want
to
establish
some
sort
of
baseline
and
also
get
some
information
like
that
to
continue
to
inform
our
own
decisions.
That
I
would
think
that
asking
for
a
report
like
that
within
three
to
six
months
for
the
initial
report
might
be
a
good
idea
with
regard
to
local
law
eye.
V
Of
course,
very
supportive
of
this.
I
think
danielle
made
an
excellent
point
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
consider
about.
Are
there
circumstances
in
which,
if
the
officer
documents
that
the
person
has
asked
for
a
camera
to
be
turned
off?
And
it
is
for
reasons
that
maybe
for
which
there's
criteria
that
maybe
then
they
can
go
ahead
and
turn
it
off
without
a
supervisor's
approval.
V
I'm
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
is
the
best
solution
to
that,
but
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point
that
we
should
be
considering
and
addressing
and
with
regard
to
local
law
j.
I
agree
that
we
should
be
taking
into
consideration
the
very
specific
amendments
that
were
recommended
in
the
july
5th
letter
from
the
community
police
review
board.
V
I
was
a
little
surprised
when
the
initial
recommendations
did
not
include
some
of
those
recommendations,
and
I
think
that
I
would
have
been
advocating
for
some
of
those
without
that
letter,
but
being
that
they
have
taken
the
time
to
make
specific
recommendations
with
regard
to
language,
I
think
that
we
should
seriously
consider
making
those
and
finally,
with
regard
to
the
issue
of
staffing,
so
there's
this
provision
regarding
the
budget,
and
I
think
that
it's
good
and
important
for
that
provision
to
be
in
there
as
a
minimum
baseline
for
what
we
expect.
V
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
provide
clarification
in
that
that
that
board
should
be
putting
forth
a
budget
request
every
year
to
the
administration,
in
that
the
that
they
have
the
authority
to
hire
independent
council
for
their
work
and
other
independent
staff
to
perform
their
functions,
but
then
they
should
have
a
budget
request
be
put
in
to
the
administration
and
shared
with
the
council.
The
full
budget
request
be
shared
with
the
council
at
that
time.
A
Okay,
I
didn't
miss
anyone.
G
G
I
mentioned
those
names
because
the
incident
on
first
street
there
were
cameras
present,
but
no
one
knew
about
this
incident
if
it
wasn't,
for,
I
believe
one
of
the
victim
sisters
had
took
the
video
and
and
passed
it
out.
So
this
incident
had
taken
place
a
number
of
days
and
apd
administration
wasn't
aware
of
it.
You
know
this
incident
might
have
took,
you
know,
might
have
happened
and
and
no
one
would
have
been
aware
of
it.
So
I
think
that
cameras
being
on
is
essential.
G
I
think
that
the
the
the
the
discussion
about
every
police
officer
wearing
cameras
is
much
needed,
because
we
have
to
send
a
message
to
the
community
of
transparency.
This
is
what
we
say
and
I'm
just
cautious
about
giving
anybody
discretion
to
be
able
to
turn
the
camera
off.
I
think
that
the
conversation
should
be.
G
It
should
be
consequences
when
those
cameras
get
turned
off,
because
that's
when
it's
margin
for
error,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
those
names,
because
without
those
gentlemen,
without
those
incidents
we
probably
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation
about
cameras
and
unfortunate
to
the
experience
and
it's
a
their
personal
experience
show,
that
is
truly
a
need
for
cameras.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
uncomfortable
on
behalf
of
those
names
that
I
mentioned,
that
we
have
to
have
this
conversation,
but
it's
much
needed.
A
Okay,
to
move
on
to
both
the
apd
and
the
city's
staff
to
the
comments
and
whatnot.
W
Well,
as
far
as
local
age
goes,
you
know
the
police
department
wants
to
work.
We
obviously
you
know,
want
to
make
things
better.
We
want
to
make
things
more
efficient,
but
with
local
lh.
We're
definitely
there's.
Definitely
some
concerns
with
the
process
and
how
we
get
this
data
collected,
so
we're
gonna.
We
would
need
some
assistance
with
it
personnel
to
figure
out
how
we
can
capture
this
data
and
house
it
in
a
way
that
we
can
digest
it
and
and
deliver
it
to
the
cprv.
W
We
support
that
we'd
like
to
discuss
a
little
bit
further,
though,
as
far
as
you
know
that
process
getting
the
information
and
how
how
we're
going
to
get
that
information-
and
you
know
it
seems
as
though
maybe
an
I.t
solution-
a
software
solution
may
be
the
best
for
that,
because
there's
a
lot
of
information
as
I
look
at
it
here
that
we
that
we
have
to
capture
and
get
and
as
it
is
as
it
stands
now
the
crac
and
commander
foley's
on
the
on
the
line
here
and
after
I'm
done
speaking,
he
can
attest
and
talk
to
all
that
talk
about
all
that.
W
The
crac
is
already
has
a
lot
on
their
plate
right
now,
and
they
would
definitely
would
definitely
need
another
staff
member
to
help
get
this
data
to
to
members
of
the
cprb
and
the
common
council.
W
The
video
cameras,
I
urge
everybody
to
read
our
department
policy.
It's
out
there
body
worn
cameras.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
just
to
codify
it,
but
we
we
do
all
this
already.
Officers
are
wearing
cameras.
If
the
camera
is
turned
off,
they
need
to
document
that
as
to
the
reason
why
the
camera
was
turned
off.
There's
also
a
lot
of
other
concerns
that
were
touched
on
here
with
privacy
concerns
with
victims.
I
know
danielle
talked
about
an
example
of
a
victim.
There's
examples
like
that.
W
There's
examples
with
detectives
following
up
on
cases
and
people
may
not
they'd
be
more,
might
be
more
reluctant
to
cooperate
knowing
that
they're
being
video
recorded
and
that
video
is
going
to
be
released
within
probably
two
weeks
or
less
so
it'll
get
out.
There.
We've
already
seen
some
issues
with
people
wanting
to
cooperate
with
cases
because
they
know
that
information
is
going
to
be
out
there
and
there's
examples
of
that
happening.
W
Where
then
now
they're
they're
facing
possible
retribution,
because
that
information
is
out
there
and
everybody
knows
that
they're
talking
to
the
police
again
I'll
have
commander
foley's
speaking
out
a
little
bit
more.
W
We
had
a
few
other
issues
with
that
as
well
or
concerns,
I
should
say,
and
local
local
law
jay
with
the
cprb
commander
batchwell's
here
to
speak
on
that
he
works
with
the
cprb
regularly.
W
So
I'll.
Just
let
him
speak
on
that,
but
I
also
want
to
add
it's.
I
mean
I've
been
in
law
enforcement
for
over
20
years
and
I've.
Never
it's
just.
This
is
a
this
is
this
is
a
very
negative
vibe
that
we
have
here
in
law
enforcement.
There
was
that
one
thing
mentioned
about
any
positive
thing
that
we
do.
W
I
understand
all
the
concerns,
but
there's
a
lot
of
good
work,
that's
being
done
out
there,
so
I
think
if
we,
if
we
capture
some
of
that
positivity
and
some
of
the
good
things
that
are
doing
that
we're
doing
here
and
maybe
build
upon
that
as
well.
That
may
be
something
that
can
make
these
things.
You
know
come
to
fruition
a
little
bit
faster,
but
as
a
deputy
chief
sitting
here
with
over
20
years
of
the
apd
it
you
know
it
isn't
it.
W
You
know
it's
something
I
feel
I
have
to
say
because
there's
a
lot
of
good
work
being
done
out
there
and
it's.
You
know
it's
disheartening,
to
hear
all
the
negative
energy
that's
going
on
here
and
I
urge
everybody
to
maybe
do
a
ride-along
attendant
attend
the
assistance
police
academy.
Just
so
you
can
kind
of
see
what
officers
are
also
dealing
with
out
there.
W
So
again,
I
know
that's
kind
of
off
topic,
but
half
this
meeting
was
was
kind
of
off
topic,
so
I
just
wanted
to
stress
that
so
I'll
turn
over
now
to
commander
foley.
X
All
right
am
I
on
yet
all
right.
Thanks
thanks
everybody
for
commenting
tonight,
just
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
of
what
the
chief
said
in
regards
to
the
data
collection
and
the
crime
in
that
capital,
region,
crime,
analysis,
center
city
of
city
of
albany
police
department.
We
have
three
crime,
analysts,
a
crime,
anal
supervisor
and
two
crime
analysts
that
they
they
are
currently
assigned
to
the
capital
region,
crime
analysis
center.
We
are
down
two
of
those
analysts.
X
Currently
we
only
have
the
crime
anal
supervisor
that
was
due
to
some
parties
leaving
and
moving
on
and
furthering
their
careers,
and
we
just
got
recently
permission
to
pursue
and
replace
one
of
those
employees,
but
we
haven't
seen
any
increased
requests
for
administrative
requests,
much
to
do
with
the
correlation.
X
The
collaborative
a
lot
of
common
council
requests
councils
from
the
chief,
as
well
as
the
mayor's
office,
putting
a
strain
on
the
one
analyst
that
we
do
have
now
so
much
like
the
chief
said,
a
maybe
administrative
analyst
assigned
to
the
chief
or
the
chief's
office,
or
something
like
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
would
it
would
help
facilitate
getting
the
information
to
the
cprv
in
a
timely
fashion.
X
Moving
on
to
the
body,
camera
law,
eye
local
law,
eye
body
cameras
are
very
important
and
much
like
the
chief
said.
Our
policy
does
address
certain
situations
when
they
can,
when
they
do
not
have
to
be
used
and
much
like
danielle
said
currently
in
our
policy
when
interviewing
a
rape,
suspect
or
a
rape
victim
or
an
apparent
juvenile
victim.
The
officers
are
not
required
to
utilize
their
cameras.
X
That's
already
in
there
much
like
the
chief
said
if
the
camera
is
failed
to
be
turned
on
or
if
it's
interrupted
during
any
time
during
the
the
the
video
of
it
or
anything
along
the
lines,
they
have
to
do
a
report
documenting
why
that
occurred.
So
that
is
again
already
in
there.
X
The
issue
I
would
have-
or
the
concern
I
have
I
should
say-
is
that
being
a
commander
of
the
detective
division,
when
we
go
out
and
do
canvases
or
we
go
out
and
do
follow-up
interviews
or
we
go
out
to
collect
video
from
individual
household
houses
with
ring
cameras
or
private
video
surveillance
systems
to
the
broad
stroke
of
the
first
line
there,
it
says,
issued
to
police
officers
or
installed
a
police
vehicle
shall
be
used
to
record
any
interaction
with
the
public
and
shall
continue
to
record
until
the
completion
of
that
action.
X
That
would
include
those
types
of
interactions
we're
out
there
trying
to
solicit
cooperation
from
the
community.
We've
already
received
very
little
cooperation
a
lot
of
times
from
our
victims,
so
to
put
further
obstacles
into
having
that
would
would
hamper
our
investigations
in
a
great
manner.
X
Those
recordings
would
be
if
an
arrested
made
would
be
turned
over
to
as
a
result
through
discovery
within
15
days,
and
then
not
only
would
the
a
cooperating
witness
or
person
who
provided
information
not
only
would
their
name
and
address
be
out
there,
but
also
their
likeness
or
what
they
look
like.
As
a
result
of
that
video
being
released,
that
would
then
put
that
party,
possibly
in
jeopardy
of
retaliation
or
danger.
X
So
I,
while
I
do
believe
that
cameras
are
very
important.
I
think
that
have
to
have
a
broad
stroke
across
that
every
public
interaction
with
the
police
officer
is
is
just
a
little
too
too
far.
X
I
think
on
the
canvases
or
currently
when
we
interview
a
a
witness,
or
we
interview
somebody
down
in
our
detective
office,
even
though
our
rooms
are
equipped
with
video
cameras
to
record
interviews,
we
do
not
do
that
for
that
exact
reason,
so
that
way,
they're
not
on
camera
they're,
not
giving
us
their
nothing
along
those
lines.
So,
but
I
do,
I
do
believe
that
they
are
very
important
and
much
like
the
chief
said.
If
you
just
re
review
our
policy.
X
X
T
Good
evening
everybody,
my
name
is
anthony
basswell,
I'm
commander
of
albany
p
davey.
I
just
touched
based
a
little
bit
on
local
law
jay.
This
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
the
members
of
the
cprb
some
months
ago,
so
I've
been
well
aware
of
some
of
the
language
and
the
spirit
behind
it.
I
think
that
with
the
repeal
of
50a
and
and
where
we've
come
since
then,
a
lot
of
the
information
flow,
at
least
in
my
perception,
has
been
great
between
my
office
and
the
members
of
cprb.
T
I
welcome
any
comment
that
they
might
have,
and
obviously
any
suggestions
and
recommendations
to
make
that
process
better
moving
forward.
It's
uncharted
territory
for
all
of
us
in
this
regard.
They
have
greater
access
now
than
they
ever
did
before,
mainly
because
of
the
repeal
of
50a,
and
I
think
that
gives
them
certainly
more
oversight
to
the
the
process
for
us
investigating
those
complaints
that
are
generated
from
the
community.
T
I
mean
what
I
would
say
is
you
know
very
goal-oriented
in
the
same
process.
You
know
what
are
we
looking
for?
What's
most
important
to
me
and
my
role
with
the
police
department
is
transparency
he's
bringing
that
legitimacy
back
in
that
trust?
T
Building
that
the
chief
is
is
eager
to
you
know,
reconnect
with
the
community
a
very
small
piece
of
that,
and
it's
just
a
very
small
piece
of
it-
is
making
sure
that,
when
community
complaints
are
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
police
department
that
they
are
answered,
that
they
are
heard
and
that
they
are
investigated
thoroughly
and
completely
without
bias
and
without
subjective
opinions.
T
That's
been
my
goal
since
day,
one
in
taking
office
the
investigations
and
again
please
don't
take
my
word
for
it.
Ask
the
cprb
ask
even
the
complainants
themselves,
you
know
their
the
opinions
and
subjective
viewpoints
are
just
not
allowed
in
those
investigations.
T
I
am
only
concerned
about
the
facts,
all
right,
the
facts
that
bring
out
the
the
results
of
the
investigation
and
what
the
findings
are
for
the
allegations
that
were
brought
against
the
employees
of
the
police,
department
and
oftentimes.
You
will
see
that
when
there
are
sustained
violations
of
policy
that
they
are
addressed
by
the
chief
of
police
council
member
johnson
brought
up
the
first
street
investigation
earlier,
it's
very
been
a
very
well
publicized
case.
Obviously
you
know
that
was
an
administrative
review
of
the
incident.
It's
been
well
documented.
T
The
discipline
has
been
issued
to
those
those
employees
by
the
chief
and
that
process
is
still
playing
out.
I
myself
and
personally
involved
with
the
due
process
that
the
employees
have
rights
to,
and
it's
very
lengthy
yeah.
It
goes
on
for
quite
some
time,
so
you
know
we
have
to
allow
the
respect
that
process
to
allow
to
to
carry
out
in
full
fashion.
But
again,
that's
all.
T
I
have
to
really
comment
on
local
law
jay
I
mean
I
do
believe
in
having
whatever's
going
to
achieve
that
transparency,
and
I'm
not
just
saying
that
for
useless
rhetoric,
I
mean
that
passionately
because
again,
that
only
helps
us
in
the
long
run.
To
be
honest
with
you
all,
it
helps
the
police
department
bring
legitimacy
back
to
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
ultimately
the
number
one
priority
is
public
safety
it
it's.
It
affects
everything
that
we
do.
T
So,
if
we're
not
legitimizing
somebody's
grievance
or
complaint,
they
felt
wronged
in
some
way.
Then
that
does
create
that
distrust
it
does.
It
does
create.
You
know
anger
and
frustration
and
animosity
and
all
things
negative-
and
we
just
can't
have
that
so
whatever
is
going
to
legally
and
lawfully,
allow
us
to
have
more
transparency
through
the
boards
review
of
our
investigations.
T
Yeah,
I'm
certainly
for
the
only
other
thing
I'd
like
to
comment
on.
If
I
may,
there
was
a
comment
earlier
and
forgive
me
I
forgot
who
mentioned
it
about
the
data
breach
of
data
that
was
just
just
to
be
factual
for
it.
That
was
in
relation
to
the
data
breach
that
the
city
encountered
back
in
early
2019.
T
That
was
a
city-wide
attack
on
all
of
its
software
and
computer
data
that
did
affect
the
police
department
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but
certainly
with
my
my
office
as
far
as
it
houses
some
of
the
complaint
driven
data,
we
use
a
system
called
iapro.
T
It
is
a
system
that
that
is
not
it
wasn't
built
by
apd.
It
wasn't,
it
wasn't
formulated
by
apd,
but
that
is
where
that
information
is
housed
and
it
was
simply
it
was
simply
lost.
It
was
stolen
essentially,
and
there
was
no
way
of
retrieving
it.
So
pretty
much
all
of
the
information
from
the
year
of
2018
into
the
early
portion
of
2019
was
completely
lost.
You
know
to
no
fault
of
anybody
from
the
city
of
albany,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
clarified
that
point
as
well.
Thank
you
very.
T
G
I
you
would
like
to
respond
to
a
couple
of
the
comments
that
was
made.
You
know,
as
representatives
you
get,
you
hear,
people's
concerns
and
like
we
we're
having
a
conversation,
and
I
only
I
brought
up
those
names
because
their
experiences
contribute
and
brought
us
today
to
where
we're
at,
and
I
wanted
them
they're
not
here
to
be
able
to
represent
themselves.
You
know
dante.
Ivy
is
my
first
cousin,
so
you
know
as
people
speak,
that
is
on
the
opposite
side
of
law
enforcement
for
22
years.
G
You
know
they
have
a
different
experience
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
come
and
and
have
this
hard
conversation
without
being
expected
to
talk
about
the
great
things
about
apd.
We
celebrate
apd,
you
know
daily,
because
it
is
a
lot
of
great
things
that
they
do,
and
you
know
when
it's
time
for
advocation
for
apd.
G
I
have
personally
been
one
of
the
first
people
to
speak
up
on
behalf
of
apd,
but
it
would
be
nice
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
these
hard
conversations
without
always
having
to
be
expected
to
talk
about
positive
things.
You
know
it's
not
positive
things
that
have
brought
us
to
this
place
where
we
have
to
have
these
difficult
conversations
that
haven't
been
had
sometimes
so
you
know,
please
don't
always
take
it
as
an
attack,
because
people
were
voicing
and
verbalizing
their
experiences,
and
this
has
happened.
G
You
know
some
cases
for
generations
and
you
know
so.
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
those
conversations
like
we
do
like
we
do
when
we
talk
about
positive
things,
because
as
many
members
on
this
force
that
could
quantify
what
I'm
saying
when
it's
time
to
celebrate
apd,
it
is
it's
done
and
we
need
to
have
these
difficult
conversations
so
that
the
community
understands
that
their
voice
is
being
chair.
G
So
I
just
would
hope
that
moving
forward,
you
know
we
don't
always
have
to
talk
about
the
positive
when
we're
having
these
difficult
conversations,
because
it's
already
understood
that
it
is
some
great
work,
a
lot
of
great
work,
that's
being
done
by
apd,
but
it's
those
few
incidents
that
are
hard
to
forget
that
we,
you
know
we
can't
shy
away
from
when
they're
when
they're
mentioned.
So
you
know
I'm
not
attacking,
and
I
don't
think
anything
that
I
heard
tonight
was
an
attack.
G
It's
just
how
people
feel
and
how
people
have
been
feeling
for
so
long
and
zoom
gives
people
the
platform
to
be
able
to
be
part
of
this
conversation.
So
I
would
hope
that
you
could
understand
that
we're
not
attacking
we're
just
voicing
how
we
feel.
C
Y
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
establishment
of
the
baseline
for
the
funding
for
the
review
board.
I
I'd
like
to
know
what
type
of
cost
analyses
were
done
to
establish
this
baseline.
I'm
not
saying
that
it's
not
an
accurate
number.
I
just
would
like
to
know
what
how
we
got
there.
I
I
agree
with
what
the
councilwoman
adrian
shea
was
saying
earlier
about
the
establishment
of
a
submitted
budget
to
the
administration.
Y
I'm
just
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
haven't
put
on
a
real,
thorough
cost
analysis
of
what
resources
are
absolutely
needed
to
achieve
our
goals,
we
could
either
be
way
too
high
or
way
too
low,
with
establishing
a
percentage
baseline.
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
take
a
deeper
dive
collectively
into
what
resources
are
necessary
to
achieve
our
goals
and
to
establish
that
baseline
from
that
and
then
each
year.
If
we
find
that
more
as
needed,
we
could
do
that
through
the
normal
budget
process.
Y
H
Thank
you.
I
think
the
more
important
principle
here
was
to
get
the
issue
of
a
stable
funding
level
on
the
table
and
see
where
we
go,
because
I
think
some
of
the
recommendations
that
we've
heard
might
suggest
that
that
might
be
need
to
be
a
larger
amount
than
or
maybe
smaller,
I'm
not
sure.
But
the
key
here
was
to
put
that
topic
that
concept
on
the
table
for
discussion.
H
I
do
know
that,
as
far
as
the
250
000
that's
in
the
budget
and
has
been
in
the
budget
since
the
cprb
was
established
back
in
2007,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
full
amount
has
always
been
expended.
I
know
the
council
a
couple
years
ago
has
requested
that
we
get
the
vouchers
for
that
money
which
we
have
not
gotten,
and
that
also
would
be
helpful
to
us
to
understand
what
the
current
expenditure
levels
are
for
the
law
center.
H
But
I
think
the
key
here
is
to
get
the
issue
of
you
know
some
kind
of
a
stable
funding
that
might
relate
to
the
department
budget
on
the
table,
and
then
we
can
further
have
that
discussion
as
to
what
may
or
may
not
be
adequate.
Z
Okay,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
developing
an
rfp
and
further
specifying
the
scope
of
services.
We
would
like
an
administrator
of
the
cprb
to
handle
and
what
new
tasks
we
want
them
to
take
on.
In
correlation
with
this
increase
of
funding,
which
you
know
may
be
appropriate
and
probably
is
appropriate,
but
we
would
we
think
we
should
identify
the
specific
goals
that
we're
asking
of
them
in
in
exchange
for
this
new,
these
new
funds.
Z
So
you
know
we'd
love
for
you
guys
to
be
a
part
of
that
process
and
developing
the
rfp
and
thinking
through
like
what
kind
of
positions
we
want
them
to
have.
What
kind
of
public
information
we
want
them
to
post?
What
kind
of
reporting
requirements
wheat
that
they
that
they're
doing
so
those
are
things
that
we
need
to
put
in
the
rfp
and
then
see
what
kind
of
responses
we
get
and,
as
part
of
that
process,
we
were
going
to
ask
you
to
take
into
consideration.
Z
You
know
the
the
feedback
from
the
police
collaborative
and
also
take
into
consideration
the
possibility
of
removing
the
statutory
language
that
requires
the
law
school
to
take
on
this
task.
We
think
that
opening
it
up
to
different
entities
who
might
offer
a
response
to
the
rfp
might
be
a
good
idea
in
in
concert
with
this
whole.
You
know
we're
reconsidering
what
the
cprb
should
be
right,
like
part
of
the
police
collaborative
and
part
of
this
legislation,
we're
trying
to
think
about
how
it
can
be
more
effective.
So
we
we
would
ask
we.
Z
We
would
make
that
ask
that
that
be
part
of
any
legislation
reforming
the
cprb,
and
then
you
know
as
far
as
the
budgetary
number,
I
would
agree
with
mike
that
you
know
we
start.
We
need
to
put
that.
I
think,
put
that
rfp
out
there
decide
what
services
we're
asking
for
and
then
determine
what
do
a
cost
analysis
of
what
they
would,
what
they
would
cost.
A
Okay:
okay,
do.
AA
I
have
fewer
comments
than
I
did,
because
various
people
have
chipped
away
at
my
list,
which
is
fine
with
me
local
h.
I
think
I
don't
have
any
other
comments
on
local
law.
I,
the
only
main
comment
left
refers
to
paragraph
number.
Two.
The
final
sentence
that
paragraph
currently
reads
officers
shall
ask
permission
to
film
before
entering
a
private
home
or
apartment
for
interviews
sort
of
in
line
with.
I
think
there
were
commander
don
hughes
comments
about
paragraph
one.
AA
You
know
the
use
of
the
word
shall
there
sort
of
limits,
police
flexibility
with
regard
to
various
situations,
and
that's
true,
as
well
with
paragraph
three
when
it
comes
to
asking
for
a
supervisor
for
approval
to
turn
off
his
camera.
With
regard
to
paragraph
two,
I'm
thinking
of
a
situation,
maybe
where
there's
a
domestic
incident
or
something
and
an
officer
has
to
enter
a
home
quickly
and
it
might
not
be
practicable
or
safe
to
take
the
time
to
ask
permission
to
film
before
entering
the
home
or
apartment.
AA
AA
AB
That,
oh,
that
language,
can
I
could
you
so
if
we
eliminate
that
language,
what
does
it
do?
I
heard
I
think
marissa
said
it
opens
up
more,
possibly
I
don't
I'm
understanding
why.
Why
would
that
elimination?
What
would
that
do
specifically.
Z
So
right
now
the
the
code
requires
that
the
government
law
center
be
the
administrators
of
cprp
okay.
If
we
remove
that
requirement,
it
would
just
open
up
more
options.
I'm
not
saying
we're
not
going
to
have
albany
lobby,
the
administrator
for
purposes
of
getting
competitive
responses
and
opening
the
door
and
reconsidering
what
the
cprb
is
going
to
look
like.
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea.
You
know,
maybe
the
rockefeller
institute
would
be
would
be
interested
in
in
doing
it.
H
Can
I
just
add
something
just
the
genesis
of
that
language
and
I
have
no
problem
eliminating
it,
but
someone
who
was
on
the
task
force
back
in
2000
2000?
H
Actually,
when
this
was
put
together,
I
think
I'm,
the
only
council
member
left
who
was
on
on
that,
but
at
the
time
in
cory
at
the
time
in
trying
to
create
this
different
model
kind
of
a
hybrid
between
and
totally
independent
and
one
that
had
some
oversight
authority,
but
still
provided
the
the
department
some
about
the
investigatory
authority
was
to
bring
in
the
law
center,
which
I
think
at
the
time,
was
identified
as
the
the
most
appropriate
entity
that
had
the
ability
to
basically
administer
the
cprb.
H
H
If
we,
we
do
open
that
up,
whoever
we
by
contract
with
the
council,
has
to
have
a
role.
It
should
have
a
role
in
reviewing
or
approving
whoever
that
contract
or
that
entity
might
be
to
continue
to
assure
that
there's
a
level
of
independence
and
oversight.
D
We
now
that
we're
done
with
that
one
kelly.
According
to
our
internal
agenda,
we
are
allowing.
C
Members
of
the
public
to
just
to
comment
back,
and
I
if
members
still
want
to,
I
did
maintain
a
list
and
I,
according
to
my
list,
I
have
danielle
hilly,
who
had
a
response
to
something:
okay,.
C
M
So
I
just
have,
I
actually
have
an
extra
follow-up,
but
with
the
data,
I
don't
think
that
the
debt.
For
my
clarification,
I
don't
think
that
the
data
issue
is
with
the
analysts
themselves.
I
think
the
data
issue
starts
from
the
ground.
How
what
and
you
know
what
is
required
to
be
taken
in,
like
the
analysts,
aren't
the
reason
why
there's
a
blank
scale
and
also
the
follow-up
after
that?
M
As
to
you
know
the
integrity
of
said
data
that's
collected,
so
I
think
that's
actually
a
policy,
not
a
person
issue
and
once
that
policy
is
either
either
policy
is
not
being
appropriately
enforced
or
it's
insufficient
and
it
won't
be
a
person
issue
until
we
figure
out
what
that
policy
is,
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
looked
into.
Secondly,
I
just
have
to
you
know:
there's
like
been
there.
M
There's
been
multiple
comments
about
you
know,
collaborative
members,
ccrb
members,
council
members,
all
these
things
like
it's
very
concerning
to
me
the
idea
that
members
of
the
collaborative
or
ctrb
or
any
of
these
things
do
not
actually
hear
from
the
public,
because
I
know
my
phone
rings
constantly.
It
rings.
I
don't
even
get
paid
for
this
and
it
rings.
I
know
that
the
other
community,
the
very
active
community
members
that
do
this-
that
we
communicate
regularly
and
that
their
phones
ring
all
the
time
you
know
I.
K
M
That
I
harassed
the
comment,
many
of
the
common
council
members
on
a
regular
basis
and
they
pick
up
my
calls,
even
if
it's
late
at
night
or
in
the
morning-
and
you
know
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
involved
in
these
things,
like
we
hear
all
the
time
from
people
in
the
community,
which
is
why
we're
involved
in
these
things-
and
I
know
the
process-
is
slow
and
it's
not
perfect
and
we
can't
fix
everything
right
away.
But
you
know
we
do
hear
first-hand
stories.
J
M
Of
us
hear
first-hand
stories
all
of
the
time
about
a
lot
of
issues
that
occur
in
this
city
and
we
speak
to
each
other
about
them,
and
we
there's
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
work
that
comes
out
of
this
just
from
here.
So
you
know
there
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
con
like
a
lot
of
active
community
members
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
see
us
fix
the
problems
that
we're
identifying
and
I.
J
M
To
agree
with
derek
like
this
is
not
an
attack
on
the
police
department.
This
is
more
eyes
and
more.
You
know,
backgrounds
getting
involved
and
looking
over
and
seeing
where
there
are
things
that
can
be
fixed
and
utilizing
the
experience
and
the
knowledge
that
all
of
these
extra
people
have
to
get
them
done.
So
you
know
it's
just
a
matter
of
making
things
better
and
I
hope
to
continue
to
work
with
everyone
to
do
that.
Thank
you
again.
Q
Thanks
so
two
two
things
and
I'll
try
to
be
quick.
First
in
terms
of
the
the
government
law,
center's
role,
yeah,
I
thought
it
was
odd
when
I,
when
I
arrived
and
saw
that
the
the
statute
specifically
names
the
center,
that
I
direct.
I
I
appreciate
council
member
conte's
comments
because
it
actually
helps
frame
why
that
would
be
done.
It's
it's
a
way
of
making
sure
that
the
common
council
has
a
voice
in
that
selection.
Q
So
I
think
that
makes
some
sense
and
I
guess
I
would
suggest
consistent
with
what
corporation
council
suggested-
and
others
have
talked
about
that-
maybe
instead
of
naming
the
government
law
center
in
the
legislation
specifying
what
that
the
common
council
does
have
a
say
in
that
process
that
there
could
be
a
procedural
way
of
doing
that
without
the
awkwardness
of
naming
a
specific
person,
because
in
general
I
I
strongly
support
the
idea
of
doing
an
rfp
of
thinking
about
you
know.
Q
Not
only
is
that,
I
think
best
practice
in
terms
of
good
government,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
a
great
way
of
fostering
a
conversation
between
all
of
us,
like
the
one
we're
having
now
about
exactly
what
the
responsibilities
and
expectations
are,
what
role
the
various
staffing
entities
might
play
and
personally
on
the
collaborative,
I
think
we've
started
a
great
conversation
about
the
various
kinds
of
support
services
that
the
cprb
needs
to
be
effective,
which,
to
my
mind,
includes
you
know.
Q
Independent
counsel,
as
folks
have
suggested,
as
well
as
various
other
kinds
of
support
services
and
the
government
law
center
would
love
to
partner
with
other
entities
or
with
the
city
to
to
plan
how
those
can
best
be
arranged.
Q
But
I
think
there
might
be
a
point
where
the
agency
becomes
such
that
it
doesn't.
It
no
longer
makes
sense
to
have
a
law,
professor,
like
myself,
supervising
the
staff
support
activities,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
more
conversations
about
that.
But
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
and
say.
I
strongly
support
what
corporation
council
said
about
the
role
of
the
the
government
law
center.
Q
The
other
point
to
make
just
really
quickly
the
on
the
question
of
subpoena
power.
I
wanted
to
make
a
distinction
which
I
think
may
be
helpful,
because
it's
it's
absolutely
right.
As
council
member
igo
said
that
the
cprv
has
never
come
to
the
common
council
asking
for
a
subpoena
to
be
issued
on
behalf
of
the
cprb,
and
I
think
the
reason
for
that
is
that
it's
important
to
understand
what
the
cprv
members
have
asked
for
when
they
talk
about
independent
investigative
authority,
because
that's
a
significant
structural
change
in
the
cprb.
Q
Currently,
the
cprb
only
investigates
the
albany
police
department's
own
internal
investigation
of
allegations
of
misconduct,
so
in
other
words,
the
cprb's
scope
is
entirely
watching
what
commander
batuelo
and
his
team
have
done
and
opining
on
it,
and
so,
whenever
they
ask
for
more
information
they're
only
ever
asking
ops,
that
is,
the
the
apd's
internal
affairs
unit
for
more
information,
so
subpoena
power
doesn't
come
up
because
they've
always
gotten
what
they
asked
for
from
from
ops.
There's
never
been
a
con,
as
far
as
I
know,
at
least
there's
never
been
a
conflict
about
that.
Q
If
the
board
gets
independent
investigative
power,
you
have
a
very
different
situation
where
someone
alleges
police
misconduct.
Now
you
would
have
effectively
two
investigations
happening,
one
by
ops
and
one
by
whoever
the
staff
people
are
at
the
albany
police
department
responsible
for
excuse
me,
whoever
the
staff
people
are
at
the
cprb,
and
so
subpoena
power,
wouldn't,
I
suspect,
ever
be
deployed
to
get
more
information
from
apd
at
least
historically,
that's
always
been
forthcoming.
Q
It
would
rather
be
used
to
get
testimony
or
information
from
people
other
than
ops
to
find
out
more
to
help
the
cprv
with
its
own
investigation.
So
really,
to
my
mind,
subpoena
power
is
something
that
that
only
makes
sense
to
talk
about
in
the
context
of
the
cprb's
overall
investigative
power.
I
just
wanted
to
to
offer
that,
for
whatever
it's
worth,
and
thanks
to
everybody
for
letting
me
be
here
and
participate.
N
So
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
comment.
My
original
comment
I
mean
I
made
spoke
to
you,
know,
complaints
and
how
we're
trying
to
fix
problems,
and
I
think,
when
I
think
it
was
officer,
donahue
spoke
looking
for
recognition
for
the
positive
things
that
the
police
do.
I
think
that's.
What
I
was
trying
to
say
is
that
I
don't
think
that
anybody
discounts
the
hard
work
that
is
done,
I'm
not
signing
up
for
that
job,
so
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
work
that's
done.
N
That
is
positive,
but
I
think
that's
exactly
what
I
mean
when
I
talk
about
how
we're
not
looking
at
ways
to
collaborate
differently
or
to
reimagine
the
way
that
we're
policing,
I
don't
think
that
anybody
is
attacking
any
individuals
or
trying
to
diminish
any
of
the
good
work.
That
is
done,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
to
to
make
sure,
as
as
was
said,
that
we
are
having
difficult
conversations
and
that
it's
received
in
the
spirit
of
understanding
and
trying
to
delve
into
where
these
things
are
coming
from.
N
You
know
it's
not
easy
for
people
who
perceive
themselves
to
be
victims
to
speak.
It
can
be
difficult
for
them
because
there's
a
level
of
shame
and
victimization
associated
with
it.
So
as
much
as
you
feel
like
you
might
be
hearing
complaints,
it's
not
always
easy
for
people
to
come
forward
with
challenges
or
hardships
they've
experienced,
especially
in
their
own
communities.
N
So
so
I
think
that
that's
important
to
that
point.
You
know,
reading
in
the
newspaper
that
we're
cleaning
up
the
streets
by
getting
rid
of
these
kids
on
bikes.
What
color
are
these
kids
on
bikes?
You
know
it's
like.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
the
initiatives
that
we're
taking
and
what
we're
doing
about
it
are
we
building
a
place
for
them
to
ride
these
bikes?
Are
we
creating
an
avenue
for
them
to
have
something
fun
to
do?
N
Are
we
leveraging
resources
in
the
way
of
you
know
unused
community,
centers
or,
like
you
know,
weaker
stadium,
to
create
an
avenue
for
them
to
do
these
type
of
things,
or
are
we
just
looking
at
it
like?
Oh,
this
appears
to
be
cleaning
up
the
streets
because
we're
addressing
the
complaints
of
of
quality
of
life
of
a
few
people.
But
what
is
it
really
doing?
And
who
are
we
really
targeting-
and
I
think
sometimes
those
are
the
things
that
we're
not
thinking
about
when
we
are
saying?
N
Oh
gee,
you
know
we're
not
targeting
we're
not
aiming
we're,
not
focusing
on
this
group
to
somebody's
points.
I
think
it
was
luke
who
said
the
numbers
say
that
the
majority
of
arrests
are
people
of
color
when
you
make
initiative
in
areas
with
people
of
color
that
are
all
based
on
arresting
ticketing
them.
That's
what
you
get.
So
I
think
you
know
I
I
don't.
N
I
don't
want
to
take
a
negative
turn,
but
I
think
this
is
what
I
mean
when
I
say
we
need
to
reimagine
how
we're
addressing
concerns
in
the
community
and
not
them
always
being
a
law
enforcement
issue,
as
opposed
to
collaborative
opportunity
to
say
how
can
we
look
at
this
issue
and
address
it
other
than
arresting
and
ticketing
people,
and
maybe
when
that
happens
in
albany,
and
maybe
when
we
start
looking
at
some
of
those
opportunities,
because
we
have
bountiful
resources
to
do
those
type
of
things
in
terms
of
materials
and
locations.
N
Maybe
that's
when
it
will
feel
a
lot
more
like
people
are
getting
recognition
that
do
law
enforcement,
as
opposed
to
just
criticism.
So
thank
you.
D
AC
Thanks
j.r
thanks
everyone
I
wanna
I
wanna.
First
of
all
I
wanna
say
I
appreciate
you
all
having
this
form.
This
is
really
really
important,
and
these
are
the
conversations
that
the
review
board
has
had
and
at
length
for
many
years.
But
the
main
thing
that
I
want
to
weigh
in
on
is:
I
want
to
just
say
that
all
the
things
that
we're
discussing
I
want
to
make
sure
to
sign
on
to
what
mr
johnson,
what
danielle
said
and
what
nairobi
said.
AC
It's
really
important
that
we
don't
lose
focus
that
the
reason
we
are
having
these
these
difficult
conversations
is
because
people's
lives
have
been
lost.
So
I
think
that,
as
we
were
saying,
we
need
to
understand
that
the
uncomfortableness
that
we
that
we
all
may
get
fall
into
is
really
important,
because
transformation
is
difficult,
and
I
think
that
these
these,
these,
the
collaborative
and
the
expanding
the
powers
of
the
review
board
are
what
leads
people
to
think
that
when
we're
done,
it's
not
going
to
be
anything
that
they
recognize
but
again
transformation.
AC
If
we're
looking
to
reimagine
and
transform
it's
going
to
be
difficult,
it's
going
to
be
hard.
People
are
going
to
have
to
put
their
preconceived
notions
aside
and
we're
going
to
have
to
just
keep
moving
forward.
Because
again
we
are
not
separate
entities.
We
are
one
community
and
if,
if,
if
uptown
has
a
different
expectation,
then
we
have
downtown,
then
those
are
the
issues
we
have
to
address
and
we
have
to
dig
deep.
AC
AC
This
community,
historically
has
been
disenfranchised
for
a
really
long
time
and
if
we're
going
to
move
toward
reimagining
and
and
getting
rid
of
the
disparity,
then
the
uncomfortableness
we're
gonna
have
to
sit
in
it,
and
I
I
really
thank
you
all
for
doing
this
work
and
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
what
we're
gonna
be
doing
in
the
future.
Thanks
so
much.
D
P
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
quickly
follow
what
ivy
said
and
what
ava
said.
I
I
forgot
one
of
the
important
pieces
of
the
recommendations
in
our
second
letter
the,
and
it
goes
along
with
the
funding
piece.
I
guess
that
it
would.
It
could
be
included
along
with
that,
but
the
advocate
for
the
complainants
themselves-
we
spoke
about.
P
You,
know,
outcomes
from
the
cprb
work
and
possibly
being
able
to
recommend
discipline
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
sometimes
there
are
instances
where
there
is
a
finding
that
that
does
not
necessarily
fall
in
favor
of
the
complainant,
but
the
complainant,
still,
you
know,
needs
something
and
in
reimagining
the
board
and
reimagining
you
know
working
on
behalf
of
of
the
community.
P
P
So
that's
another
important
piece,
but
just
reading
the
the
the
second
letter
and
and
the
first
letter
to
but
reading
our
second
letter
as
a
whole
gives
the
idea
of
where
we
are
coming
from
in
in
and
how
we
are
trying
to
transform
to
be
to
be
more
independent
but
to
be
more
responsive
to
what
we
are
hearing
from
the
community
and
what
they
need.
So
I
just
as
as
you're
going
forward
and
considering
proposals
and
amendments
and
and
more
legislation
in
the
future.
A
Anyone
left
mr
prachardo.
A
It
was
the
last
one-
okay,
I
just
before
you
know,
speaking
with
the
members
or
asking
the
members
of
the
the
committee
their
thoughts
on
moving
forward.
We
obviously
need
to
make
some
amendments.
I,
mr
mcgear
you're
with
us.
I
mean
you're
in
the
meeting
you're
you're,
the
the
apd
union
president.
I
I'd.
Actually,
if
you
had
any
input
or
thoughts
that
would
be
helpful.
F
Kelly
thanks
for
giving
me
the
chance
to
talk
tonight,
I
have
to
kind
of
agree
with
what
deputy
chief
donahue
said
in
regards
to
the
body.
Cam
law-
that's
proposed.
F
If
you
read
our
sop
now,
our
body
cam
policy
pretty
much
covers
all
the
proposals
that
were
put
in
poorly
for
the
package
in
regards
to
turning
it
off
documenting
it.
You
know,
if
I
have
to
turn
it
off
or
mute
it.
I
need
to
do
an
investigation
report
as
to
why
I
turned
it
off
notify
the
supervisor.
So
I
believe
that
that
covers
that.
F
In
regards
to
other
things
with
the
body
cam,
I
know
one
of
the
issues
that
comes
up
is,
I
know
it
very
rarely
gets
talked
about.
Is
hospitals
wearing
a
body
cam
rod
recording
in
a
hospital?
You
know
there's
numerous
times
when
you
walk
by,
you
could
be
there
for
a
call.
There
are
patients
in
the
rooms
and
you're
picking
up
the
treatments
that
they're
getting
or
if
there's
somebody
in
an
overflow
hallway.
F
If
we
start
looking
at
body
cam
footage
and
officers
on
on
a
call
at
a
hospital,
we
have
to
take
that
into
account
that
you
know
we're
we're
violating
some
of
these
patients
rights
that
are
in
the
hospital
regards
to
the
cprb.
You
know,
I
believe
our
commander
back
to
all
in
our
internal
affairs.
They
do
a
terrific
job
as
it
is
now,
so
I
believe
you
know
it
kind
of
we're
discrediting
them.
But
yes,
it
is.
It
is
true.
F
It
is
a
difficult
time
in
law
enforcement
right
now
and
it
is
a
difficult
conversation
that
we're
having
you
know
in
regards
to
why
we
are
here,
but
we
can't
forget
that
this
year
alone,
numerous
officers
have
been
have
been
attacked.
Numerous
officers
have
been
shot,
numerous
officers
been
killed
and
this
is
happening
at
an
alarming
rate,
so
we
have
to
you
know
kind
of
think
about
the
the
toll
that
some
of
this
stuff
is
taking
on
law
enforcement.
F
I
know
you
know
this
is
a
difficult,
this
discussion,
that
we
are
having
and
why
we
got
here,
but,
however,
it
becomes
more
difficult
when
you
start
looking
at
the
the
total
officers
being
taken
as
well.
So
he
said
I
mean
I
just
looking
at
the
the
data
collection
as
well.
I
think
the
data
is
also
tough.
You
got
to
look
at
the
how
it's
measured.
F
Are
we
looking
at
the
calls
for
service?
What
brings
us
these
neighborhoods?
You
know
the
demographics
of
those
neighborhoods,
so
I
think
you
know
in
total.
That's
our
position
on
it
in
terms
of
the
data.
A
F
When
I
think
about
the
demographics
of
the
neighborhood,
are
we
looking
at
the
the
social,
economic,
demographics
of
a
neighborhood
the
call
volume
for
that
neighborhood?
Are
we
looking
at
the
the
ethnic
and
racial
background
of
a
neighborhood?
What
brings
us
to
that
neighborhood?
You
know
what
are
we
being
called
for
to
that
neighborhood
to
you
know
different
neighborhoods
or
what?
What
type
of
crimes
are
we
being
called
to
or
what
time's
a
call
for
service
you
know?
F
Do
they
compare
to
different
neighborhoods,
whether
you're
downtown,
whether
you're
uptown,
you
know
where
you
see
like
uptown
you're
starting
to
see
you
know,
identity
fraud
calls
for
service
might
be
different
than
what
you
would
see
in
some
of
the
other
wards
in
the
city
of
albany.
So
just
you
know,
if
we
can,
when
you
look
at
the
data,
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
a
totality
of
all
the
data.
That's
out
there.
A
E
I
think
we
got
a
lot
of
good
information.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
that's
part
of
having
these
difficult
conversations.
Is
you
get
more
information?
You
get
more
feedback,
you
get
more
viewpoints
and
you
get
more
logistics
of
how
you
can
actually
move
something
forward.
You
know
to
to
try
to
address
some
issues
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
bad
thing
to
you
know
recognize
that
we
are
a
little
bit
ahead
of
many
of
our
municipalities
that
are
neighbors
of
ours.
E
I
mean
we're
having
discussion
about
how
we
can
better
our
cameras
that
we
have
on
our
offices.
Other
municipalities
that
neighbors
don't
even
have
cameras.
They'll
have
just
starting
conversations
about
getting
the
cameras,
so
you
know
we
have
an
opportunity
to
be
a
model
for
other.
You
know
local
municipalities
to
follow
to
you
know
you
know,
have
best
practices,
so
I
mean
I
don't
think
we're
ready
to
vote
on
anything
today.
You
know
kimbo,
I
think
now.
E
I
think
we
have
to
take
all
of
this
information
and
we
have
to
digest
it
and
you
know
have
additional
meetings.
You
know.
Look
at
the
legislation.
Look
at
what
you
know
we
can
adapt
and
look
at
what
we
can.
You
know
make
practical
to
address
some
of
the
concerns.
You
know
I've,
I've
written
them
down.
We've
got
quite
a
few,
you
know
so,
and
you
know
we've
it.
E
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
easy
and
it's
not
going
to
be
done
overnight,
but
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
everybody's
here
to
get
this
conversation
started,
and
I
look
forward
for
everyone
coming
back,
because
the
conversation
is
not
gonna
end
tonight,
it's
gonna
continue,
but
hopefully,
when
it's
all
said
and
done,
we'll
have
a
body
of
work
that
we
can
all
be
proud
of
and
that
again
can
be
used
as
a
model
for
other
municipalities
that
are
just
getting
started,
we're
already
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
game.
S
Kelly,
I
think
we've
made
some
good
headway
tonight.
I
think
the
first
two
h
and
j,
the
cameras
and
the
statistics.
S
I
think
we
can
work
that
out
that
the
sponsors
work
together,
maybe
with
jr
and
put
something
together,
then
look
at
that
again,
the
other
one's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
more
work,
but
I
also
have
concerns
about.
What's
going
to
come
out
of
both
the
final
audit
that
the
the
company
did,
whatever
that
dorsey
approved,
that
I
just
read
what
I
saw
in
the
paper.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
have
any
input
in
this
or
if
the
collaborative
would
have
anything
bearing
on
these
two
pieces
of
legislation.
A
The
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we
necessarily
certainly
this
process
should
be
informed
by
the
collaborative,
absolutely
we're
getting
information
from
that
and
that's
why
we
haven't
moved
ahead
thus
far,
but
again,
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
independent
again
collaborative
the
collaborator
really
represents
thought
and
policy
changes
here,
we're
talking
about
law
and
and
not
only
that.
S
A
We
we
changing
the
laws
in
in
in
as
opposed
to
a
policy
with
apd.
Is
it's
it's
different,
it's
more
impactful
and
longer
lasting,
but
I
certainly
need
to
work
and
be
thoughtful
working
through
this
stuff,
but
I
I
you
know,
I
prefer
the
law
to
the
to
the
policy
myself.
That's
right.
A
AB
S
AB
Well,
well,
I
think,
joe,
I
think
that's
a
good
point,
but
the
collaborative
has
gotten
information
tonight.
You
know
people
on
this
call
I'm
in
the
collaboratives.
So
there's
a
lot
of
information.
We
got
from
constituents
that
we've
already
talked
to
some
people,
but
we
got
more
information
that
we
can
share
in
our
individual
collaborative
groups
that
can
help
formulate
some
of
those
even
more
frank
discussions.
So.
AB
A
R
Oh,
thank
you
councilmember
hoey,
so
for
this
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
you
know
waiting
to
move
forward.
Any
revision
says
legislation
or
putting
this
legislation
forward
with
the
collaborative
in
their
meeting
so
joe.
I
definitely
appreciate
the
comment
I
think
corey
and
and
kelly
echoed
similar
sentiments,
but
if
it
would
be
helpful,
what
I
recommend
is
you
know
I
maybe
the
next
collaborative
meeting
just
having
council
champions
like
kelly,
describe
what
was
said
on
this
call
and
exactly.
A
Yeah
that
that
would
be
would
be
helpful
actually
at
this
point
in
the
collaborative
we've
actually
broken
out
into
into
groups.
I
don't
I
don't
know
when
our
next
full
collaborative
meeting
is,
I'm
sure
I
have
it
on
my
calendar
somewhere,
but
I
I
can
do
that.
AB
AB
AB
So
we
want
to
be
very
clear
that
they're,
just
you
know,
they're
going
to
take
advice,
they're
going
to
look
at
stuff
the
data
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
they're
just
going
to
make
a
recommendation
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
it's
up
to
the
council
to
accept
and
do
what
we
would
do,
what
we
have
to
do:
legislative,
wise.
A
T
K
Feel
very
comfortable.
I
we've
had
such
a
good
meeting
tonight
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
police
union
was
there.
I
think
that
was
important.
I
feel
comfortable
moving
it
out
of
committee.
If
the
other
members
feel
that
way,
we
can
always
adjust
it
when
it
hits
the
mate
the
the
council
itself,
we
can
put
changes
in
that
the
collaborative
might
want
to
see,
but
I
don't
know
how
everybody
else
feels,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
I
am
very
comfortable
with
moving
forward
with
this.
Thank
you.
K
A
You
thank
you,
mr
holly,
so
mr
county.
H
H
So
I
you
know
that
what
we,
what
the
committee
moves
out
should
be,
what
reflects
this
conversation
additions
and
what
we
feel
is
the
product
that
we
want
to
put
before
the
council
and
so
those
discussions,
I
think,
I
think,
should
continue
to
be
held
in
the
committee
before
it
moves
out.
A
He's
not
a
part
of
the
committee,
I
happen.
I
I
happen
to
agree
with
that,
but
and
and
I'll
also
acknowledge
that
earlier
on
mr
ballerin
kind
of
took
responsibility
for
everything
being
slowed
down
and
some
of
the
legislation,
I
I'm
personally
the
the
sole
person
responsible
for
any
slowdowns
or
stuff
not
moving
forward
at
this
point,
so
I
I
own
that
not
mr
ballerin,
but
moving
forward
and
making
these
changes.
Based
on
our
conversation,
I
you
know
I
happen
to
agree
with
mr
conte
I'd
like
to
do.
A
You
know,
take
everything
into
account
and
move
forward,
not
not
moving
forward
tonight,
but
move
forward
with
making
those
changes.
So
we
can
get
this
stuff
going.
So
if
a
member
of
the
committee
has
a
motion
they
want
to
make,
they
can
I
I
I
do
think
we
we,
we
learned
some
stuff
tonight
and
got
some
stuff
that
we
need
to
address
in
the
legislation
and-
and
I
think
we
should
do
that,
but
we
there's
I'm
not
the
only
member
of
the
group.
A
E
E
Thank
you
for
that,
the
bad
and
the
ugly
you
know,
I
personally
think
you
know
we
should
do
this
right
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
input
that
was
brought
in
today
that
I'd
like
for
us
to
look
at
how
we
can
address
some
of
those
concerns
and
how
we
can
address
some
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
to
make
this
a
better
piece
of
legislation
and
make
this
something
that's
going
to
be
useful
and
something
that's
going
to
be
able
to
actually
have
positive
effects
on
the
ground.
E
You
know,
because
that's
what
I
I'm
on
on
the
ground,
you
know
how
do
we
fix
the
problem
on
the
ground
you
know,
so
we
can't
do
that
if
we
don't
look
at
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
brought
up.
You
know
today
by
all
parties
you
know,
so
I
I
would
like
for
a
little
more
time,
so
we
can
look
at
how
we
can
address
some
of
these
issues.
Look
how
we
can
address
some
of
these
concerns
and
make
it
something
that
you
know
has
a
you
know
a
more
passive
effect.
C
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
you
know
whatever
the
council
decides
to
do.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
attention
to
everybody
who
is
here
and
also
the
members
of
the
public
watching
on
our
facebook
group,
because
in
the
spirit
of
transparency,
the
council
staff
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
to
make
sure
that
this
particular
pieces
of
legislation
were
available
to
the
public.
So
I'm
just
going
to
share
my
screen
real
quick,
so
as
everybody
can
see
on
their
screen,
this
is
the
common
council
website.
C
We
always
welcome
everybody
to
submit
com
public
comment
on
here,
also
to
common
council
albanymi.gov.
C
What
I
wanted
to
bring
to
everybody
attention
is
that
the
legislation
for
the
common
council
that
is
currently
before
us
right
now
is
here
on
our
website,
and
any
amendments
will
also
be
put
here.
So
you
will
always
see
the
amendments
available
here
for
your
anybody
in
the
public
to
see
if
you're
a
part
of
our
list
serve,
you
will
also
see
you
also
receive
them
once
we
amend
them
as
well.
A
R
Yes,
so
I
I
generally
agree
with
obviously
making
sure
that
we
take
all
accounts
into
consideration,
make
the
revisions
and
do
this,
do
this
the
right
way.
R
What
I
want
to
say
is:
I
really
hope
you
know
that
I'm
fine
with
with
agreeing
with
council
members
and
making
those
revisions
before
bringing
it
forward,
but
that
time
is
going
to
be
critical.
So
I
what
I
wouldn't
want
is
for
it
to
be.
You
know
multiple
months
out,
and
I
know
we
have
you
know
very
scheduling
things
that
we'll
have
to
consider
here,
but
as
as
as
quickly
as
we
can
do
it
the
right
way.
I
definitely
would
would
like
to
see
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
frederick,
so
at
this
point
I
think
we
we
should,
you
know,
table
lists
and
and
work
on
any
additions
or
amendments
and
get
that
that
right,
but
not
you
know
not
rush
it
but
set
a
short
turnaround
and
set
some.
You
know
two
weeks
three
weeks.
A
I
know
we're
working
on
our
budget
right
now,
but
we
we
can't
let
it
languish,
and
we
can't
we
really
want
to
get
this
done
so
we'll
work
on
the
changes
and
making
any
amendments,
taking
all
comments
here
from
the
public
into
consideration
and
with
that,
if
there
are
no,
no
other
emotions
to
do
anything
else
with
the
legislation,
I'd.
S
A
A
Right
right,
so
we're
going
to
work
on
it,
based
on
the
suggestions
from
the
public
in
I'll.
A
You're
in
for
the
evening,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr.
I
go
second.
Second,
all
in
favor
hi,
thank
you.
Everyone
be
safe,
stay
healthy,
we'll
talk
again
soon.
Thank
you.