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From YouTube: Malcolm X Park Community Meeting - April 19, 2022
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Malcolm X Park Community Meeting - April 19, 2022
A
B
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
erica
perez.
I
will
be
your
spanish
english
interpreter
in
a
little
in
a
few
seconds
christine
the
host
will
enable
interpretation.
You
will
see
a
little
globe
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
click
that
and
make
sure
click
english.
In
case
someone
speaks
spanish.
You
will
be
able
to
listen
to
their
testimony
in
english.
B
B
E
F
E
E
So
it's
not
allison
perlman,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
the
other
email
in
the
in
the
chat.
So
these
are
all
our
zoom
tips.
I
think
we're
gonna
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
the
counselor,
but
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
when
we
get
to
questions
and
answers
and
we'll
review
those
those
slides
quickly.
But
I
wanted
to
hand
it
over
because
I
know
counselors
time
is
limited.
G
I'm
here
and
listening.
I
do
have
to
go
to
another
meeting
and
hopefully,
eventually
will
just
be
on
the
listening
mode,
because
I
I
have
to
go
to
another
thing
I
saw
in
the
oh,
I'm
sorry.
I
thought
he
was
asking
that
I
introduced
myself,
but
thank
you
so
much
and
again
thank
you
for
the
team
and
chief
mariama
for
your
team
as
well
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing.
E
Thank
you
counselor.
I
do
want
to
know
for
folks.
First
of
all,
we're
thankful
that
you're
here
lots
of
folks
are
signing
in
if
you
want
to
change
your
name,
because
I
I'm
assuming
there's
not
actually
five
maurice
says
and
slow
here,
you're
more
than
welcome
to
click
on
it
on
on
yourself
and
click
rename,
so
that
we
can
actually
know
who
would
like
to
speak
or
who
is
adding
information
into
the
chat.
So
with
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
up.
E
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
here
that
have
been
in
the
process
before
and
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
not
been
in
the
process,
so
we're
going
to
try
to
move
pretty
quickly
to
it
through
a
brief
overview,
because
then
we're
going
to
focus
on
the
conversation
that
we're
here
for
tonight.
So
our
main
goal
tonight
is
to
talk
about
the
tree
removals.
We
recognize
that,
for
those
who
are
not
have
been
I've
been
here,
malcolm
x
park
is
a
8.8
million
dollar
park
construction
project.
E
It's
also
the
first
project
in
our
equitable
procurement
pilot
project,
and
we
have
redesigned
pretend
practically
all
the
elements
in
the
park
at
this
point.
It
was
slightly
smaller
project
that
grew,
and
so
we
had
moved
through
a
quite
an
intense
process
around
the
field
and
other
elements
within
the
park,
and
then
at
that
point
there
were
early
in
the
process.
Folks
did
request
information
about
trees
at
the
time
we
didn't
have
all
that
information,
but
the
reality
is
that
we
did
not
circle
back.
E
We
did
not
come
back
to
have
a
conversation
about
trees
and
so
about
a
month
ago,
people
just
saw
trees
being
marked
for
removal,
and
that
is
what
triggered
a
conversation
where
folks
wanted
to
understand.
Why
are
those
marked
for
removal
and
what?
Why
did
we
not
have
a
conversation
about
it?
So
because
we
recognized
we
hadn't
had
a
conversation,
we
decided
it
was
important
to
pause
and
to
have
a
conversation,
and
now
we've
had
a
series
of
community
meetings.
E
Smaller
group
meetings
walks
with
the
parks
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
a
month
to
get
us
to
this
point
so
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
kathy
to
do
a
quick
run
through
of
some
of
the
slides.
We're
gonna
try
to
move
through
all
of
the
slides
relatively
quickly
and
then
lean
into
conversation,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
there.
So
everyone
is
on
the
same
page
about
the
conversation.
C
Thank
you
chief.
My
name
is
kathy
baker,
eclipse
I'm
the
the
director
of
the
capital
plan
for
the
boston
parks
department.
I
also
want
to
introduce-
or
just
note
that
that
commissioner
woods
is
also
on
the
call,
as
is
commissioner
mikash,
who
is
the
commissioner
of
the
disabilities
commission
for
the
city
of
boston.
C
C
C
It
wasn't
to
include
or
exclude
program
elements.
It
was
very
important
for
the
design
team
to
understand
that
the
trees,
the
pudding
stone,
outcroppings
and
the
walls
were
highly
valued
by
the
community
and
that
the
character
of
the
park
should
be
retained
while
accommodating
the
other
project
goals
and
one
of
which
is
improving
the
accessibility
throughout
the
site.
C
C
H
H
So,
as
kathy
said,
we
are
involved
in
all
the
projects
that
the
boston
parks
and
rec
does
for
major
renovations
for
accessibility,
and
this
one
was
planned
a
few
years
ago.
I
know
we
met
with
them
last
year
and
we
really
went
through
the
design
in
a
very
thorough
way,
and
we
know
that
the
parks
department,
when
they
design
parks
they
do
that
for
all
users.
H
H
So
we
were
interested
in
the
design,
creating
the
accessible
routes,
and
then
you
know
the
project
moved
forward,
and
then
we
we
met
again
just
a
month
or
so
ago
to
talk
through
the
project
again
because
it
had
been
a
year
a
long
cobra
year.
So
when
we
met
again,
we
realized
that
there
was
some
community
concern
about
removing
trees.
H
So
we
really
dug
into
the
laws
that
are
applicable
to
this
case,
and
there
are
two
things
that
I
really
want
to
emphasize:
the
first,
that
a
law
that
applies
is
the
ada,
the
americans
with
disabilities
act.
So
the
ada,
as
you
may
know,
is
a
civil
rights
law
that
protects
people
with
disabilities
from
discrimination
and
the
ada
requires
all
public
facilities,
overseen
by
municipal
governments
to
be
accessible,
not
only
physically
accessible
through
architectural
access,
but
also
program
accessible.
H
They
also
have
a
requirement
that,
when
an
entity
spends
30
percent
of
the
assessed
value
of
the
building
or
facility
that
the
whole
building
or
facility
needs
to
be
made
compliant
so
with
the
parks
budget
as
comparing
it
to
the
cost
of
the
assessed
value
of
the
park,
it
does
trigger
that
requirement.
So
now,
as
kathy
said,
it's
really
not
an
option
to
leave
areas
untouched
and
or
reopen
them
with
inaccessible
areas.
H
The
whole
park
really
needs
to
be
made
compliant,
and
the
reason
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
is
because
I
just
want
to
really
say
that
I
I
understand
I
love
trees,
people
with
disabilities
love
trees.
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
access
the
park
in
the
same
way,
because,
right
now
we
can't
see
a
lot
of
the
trees
and
we
really
think
that
there's
a
way
to
work
together.
H
I
know
the
parks
department
is
planting
new
trees
and
you
know
I'll
be
here
all
night
for
questions,
but
I
really
just
wanted
to
make
those
two
laws
that
are
applicable
clear.
So
people
had
an
understanding
that
it's
not
just
arbitrary
and
it's
really
not
even
our
decision.
It's
a
federal
law
and
a
state
law
and
it's
mandated
with
public
funds
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you
kathy.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
really
appreciate
you
being
here
tonight
so,
like
I
like,
I
said
when
we
were
doing
past
projects
in
past
projects
when
we
were
doing
just
the
field
in
2016
the
value
of
that
that
contract
was
less
than
one-third
of
the
assessed
value.
So
we
were
able
to
bring
just
that
just
what
we
could
up
to
up
to
code,
but
weren't
really
able
to
address
the
back
side
as
it
approaches
how
you
get
from
the
field
to
the
basketball
courts,
for
instance.
C
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that,
by
taking
a
look
at
the
whole
park,
we
can
see
how
the
programs
fit
together
and
and
address
major
some
deficiencies
that
have
been
there
for
a
very
long
time
and
really
need
to
be
brought
up
to
code.
We're
also
able
to
address
other
things
like
bringing
in
new
features
that
we're
really
excited
we'll
get
into
some
of
those
details
in
a
minute.
C
So
if
we
can
go
to
the
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
this
is
a
slide
of
the
the
originally
proposed
canopy
removals
and
when
we
talk
about
can
be
tree
removals.
There
are
some
reasons
that
we
look
at
in
the
design
process
about
why
we
might
remove
trees.
One
is
whether
it
is
it
is
dead
or
is
imminent
hazard,
regardless
of
its
location,
invasive
volunteers,
where
we
propose
removing
that's
because
invasive
plant
material
can
crowd
out
and
harm
desired,
plant
material.
C
We
look
at
whether
there's
a
an
opportunity
to
prevent
future
hazards,
trees
growing
into
fences
or
trees
that
have
low
crotches,
which
is
a
structural
issue
for
for
trees
that
sometimes
they
might
display
and
and
and
be
a
hazard
into
the
future
or
we're
look.
We
did
propose
removing
them
to
accommodate
other
park
program
goals
like
approving
access
to
the
site
and
throughout
the
site.
C
If
creating
program,
areas
or
the
access
to
those
program
areas
may
negatively
impact
a
fair
or
a
marginal
tree,
for
instance,
cutting
too
many
roots
or
excessive
filling
in
the
root
zone.
We
recommended
its
removal.
Boston
parks
does
not
currently
have
the
capacity
to
nurse
these
trees
back
to
health.
C
So,
where
we
stand
today,
we
want
to,
we
will
be
the
hill
will
be
included
when
park.
Construction
resumes
the
the
pathways
are:
a
surgical
intervention
on
the
hillside
to
repave
them
as
close
to
the
existing
alignment
as
possible
and
retain
the
important
features
like
other
trees,
the
pudding
stone,
outcroppings
and
the
walls.
C
C
I
Thank
you
excuse
me,
thank
you
kathy
as
we're
as
we're
going
through
these
slides
here.
I
want
to
try
to
focus
on
the
major
components
looking
at
the
the
trees
on
site
that
were
originally
proposed
for
removal
versus
what
we've
reviewed
first,
one
to
indicate
some
of
the
dead,
hazardous
and
truly
poor
conditioned
trees
that
are
planned
for
removal.
So
everything
in
the
black
dotted
area
here
are
trees
that,
through
through
the
arborist
assessment
that
we
had
done
were
indicated
as
poor
condition
as
a
hazard
or
even
dead.
I
So,
through
the
through
the
review
of
the
the
project
site,
we
originally
had
close
to
54
trees
that
were
being
removed,
which
was
around
15
of
the
site
tree
cover
through
the
review
of
the
low
impact
modifications,
and
these
are
things
that
are
again
just
revising
the
way
we're
looking
at
it.
We're
able
to
save
23
additional
trees,
which
includes
the
trees
along
dale
street
at
the
proposed
edge
of
the
field.
These
would
need
to
be
pruned
and
invasives
that
are
growing
up
in
among
the
flowering
trees
would
need
to
be
removed.
I
I
I
There
are
a
few
other
trees
throughout
the
site,
including
some
coniferous
trees
that
are
in
decline,
but
they
are
not
going
to
be
impacted
by
any
direct
construction
work.
So
we're
able
to
keep
those
as
well
as
some
small
flowering
trees
on
the
hillside.
There's
a
dead
tree
in
in
the
one
section
of
the
hillside,
overlooking
the
fields
that
is
dead
should
be
removed.
I
Looking
at
the
original
plan
tree
canopy
to
remain,
you
can
see
the
original
plan
for
the
54
tree.
Removals
are
marked
in
the
x's
and
the
existing
canopy
to
remain
is
highlighted
here
in
green
with
the
proposed
tree
canopy
revisions
to
remain.
These
are
some
of
the
most
important
ones
to
indicate
we
were
able
to
save
some
trees
in
the
island
here
between
the
pathways
save
most
of
the
trees
along
dale
paulding.
I
Some
more
of
the
trees
in
the
in
the
cops
area
here
between
the
basketball
courts
in
the
field
and
a
few
others,
including
the
new
trees
that
have
been
proposed
in
the
in
the
project,
plans
we're
looking
at.
We
were
looking
at
planting
97
trees.
One
of
the
oversights
in
the
project
didn't
include
additional
coniferous
trees,
so
we're
looking
to
plant
a
few
more,
possibly
four
or
five
more
coniferous
trees,
as
well
as
the
97
that
are
indicated
here.
I
And
then
we
really
get
to
the
the
crux
of
the
issue,
which
is
some
of
the
more
impacted
trees
that
we
can
look
at
saving,
and
this
includes
a
large
conifer
at
the
the
corner
of
dale
and
regent,
just
up
the
hillside,
an
existing,
mature
maple
on
the
the
walkway
from
the
higgins
and
lewis
school
through
the
park,
as
well
as
a
mature
linden
tree
along
the
edge
of
the
higgins
and
louis
school.
These
are.
These
are
three
medium
impact
modifications
that
we
can
make.
I
I
Our
original
required
ada
access
from
dale
street
had
us
working
with
a
switchback
pathway
that
needed
to
end
up
too
close
to
the
tree
roots,
to
keep
it
viably
intact
through
review.
We
looked
at
ways
that
we
could
add
additional
pathways
or
other
ways
to
save
the
tree
and,
and
what's
really
required
in
this
case,
is
to
to
move
the
path
to
save
the
tree.
I
I
J
I
All
right
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
questions
and
we'll
explain
through
okay,
another
one
of
the
elements
was
the
introduction
of
this.
This
amphitheater
and
community
gathering
space
and
in
early
conversations
we
heard
from
members
of
the
community
and
of
the
school
that
it'd
be
nice
to
have
an
outdoor
gathering
space,
that's
a
little
quieter
than
the
sports
fields,
and
this
was
one
of
the
areas
that
seemed
the
most
appropriate
to
place
it.
I
I
I
I
There's
just
no
way
to
lift
this
path
any
higher
without
having
some
impact
on
these
tree
roots.
We
located
the
existing
path
in
the
location,
the
proposed
path
in
the
existing
of
the
in
the
location
of
the
existing
path
to
try
to
minimize
impact,
but
this
tree
sits
so
close
to
the
pathway
that,
in
the
original
proposed
design,
there
was
going
to
be
enough
root
impact
that
we
thought
it
best
to
remove
the
tree.
So
again,
with
some
new
salvaged
block,
retaining
walls
put
up
along
the
edge
this
tree
could
be
preserved.
I
There
are
some
trees
on
site
that
were
outside
the
scope
of
our
impact
that
we
left
out
of
consideration
and
then
some
other
trees
that
the
arborist
may
find
might
be
worth
removal
if
that
arborist
with
confirmation
from
the
boston
tree
warden,
recommends
additional
tree
removals.
That's
another
option.
That's
on
the.
E
Table
all
right,
thank
you.
I
think
we're
going
to
come
back
to
all
of
those
questions
and
conversations.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
had
the
full
information,
because
you
know
last
time
we
started
halfway
in
and
didn't
actually
get
through.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
the
full
picture,
and
now
we'll
have
some
space
for
questions
and
comments.
C
L
Yes,
hi
everyone,
I
hope
everyone's
having
a
great
evening.
I
just
have
a
few
questions
in
regards
to
the
trees.
I
do
understand
that
there
are
some
trees
that
do
that
probably
do
need
to
be
cut
down,
and
you
know
they
can
be
saved,
but
I
want
to
know
if
there's
going
to
be
an
increased
investment
in
landscaping
and
keeping
up
with
trees
and
if
there
will
be
any
trees,
new
trees
planted
as
those
are
being
removed.
Thank
you.
E
E
I'm
just
noting
like
if
you
plan
for
one
tree
to
come
out,
and
we
don't
take
it
out-
we
probably
won't
put
another
tree
right
there,
so
I
think
that
number
will
probably
come
down,
but
we
will
still
be
planting
as
close
to
the
97
as
we
possibly
can,
and
we
have
a
we've
heard
from
the
counselor
request
that
we
can
hear
from.
Can
we
hear
from
roxbury
constituents
first.
A
N
M
M
E
N
H
N
N
C
N
Parks,
so
my
question
kathy
time
is
short,
so
I'ma
just
be
direct.
My
question
is:
do
we
know
here
today
either
you
or
the
commissioner?
Do
we
know
if,
for
the
purposes
of
compliance
with
that
law,
if
assessment
means
the
city
of
boston's
tax
assessment
value
specifically
or
do
we
do
we
not
know
that
what
that
what
the
state
law
means
is
the
tax
city
of
boston's
tax
assessment
value.
N
C
It's
yeah,
I
mean
it
says
it's
the
assessed
value,
so
it
is
not.
My
understanding
is
that
it
is.
I
am
not
a
lawyer
that
it
is
not
does
not
specifically
state.
Is
the
tax
assessed
value?
The
the
assessment
based
on
the
taxes
city?
Boston,
does
not
pay
taxes
to
itself
for
public
published
parkland,
so.
N
H
H
That's
my
role
in
the
city,
so
my
role
in
the
city
is
to
ensure
that
all
work,
the
city
does,
is
accessible
for
persons
with
disabilities,
so
that
includes
parks,
sidewalks
schools.
So
any
new
work
that
the
city
does
is
accessible
to
persons
with
disabilities
and
that's
under
a
civil
rights
law,
a
federal
civil
rights
law.
So
we
can't
do
work,
that's
not
accessible
to
persons
with
disabilities
under
the
ada.
N
H
There
is
a
requirement
that
the
whole
park
be
accessible,
so
I
would
say
that
the
ada
also
has
a
mandate
that
states
are
required
to
go
by
either
the
ada
accessibility
guidelines.
The
ada
has
accessible
building
guidelines,
so
states
are
required
to
either
go
by
the
ada
guidelines
or
their
state
building
code.
Whichever
is
stricter,
so
in
this
case
the
ada
would
subside
to
the
aab,
because
the
state
building
code
may
be
stricter.
So
we
are
subject
to
aab
to
ada
through
aab,
which
that's
required
in
the
law.
O
C
C
There
will
be
security
cameras
in
selected
locations
going
in
throughout
the
park
the,
and
I
think
we
will
take
another
look
at
at
the
location
of
the
lights
and
their
relationship
to
any
trees
that
we've
we've
reversed
course
on,
so
that
we
re-evaluate
those
and
make
sure
that
there's
not
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
so
that
that's
not
going
to
be
an
issue
moving
forward.
So.
P
P
And
then
my
other
question
was
what
happens
with
the
park
in
the
winter.
So
over
the
years
I
live
right
across
from
the
parking
park.
All
the
time
with
my
dogs
and
the
park
is
not
accessible
in
the
winter.
Nobody
shovels
nobody
sucks.
So
how
is
the
park
is
this?
Is
the
park
going
to
only
have
access
seasonal,
for
instance?
It's
going
to
be
all
the
time.
C
C
C
P
That
I
guess
how
much
well
yeah
it's
okay,
that's
seasonal,
because
here
you're
spending
all
this
money
in
the
park,
and
then
you
have
the
school
across
the
street
that
the
kids
can't
even
you
know,
cut
through
the
pocket
the
parents
get
to
school.
We
now
have
to
walk
all
the
way
up
the
boulevard
and
down
the
street
and
from
an
opponent
to
you,
don't
have
access
to
school.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
being
spent?
R
R
R
R
No,
you
may
have
some
that
are
have
mobility
challenges
too
so
to
access
the
park
when
they
do
a
little
minor
field
field
trip
it
needs
to
be
ada
accessible
and
when
you're
doing
ada
accessible,
some
of
our
trees
have
have
got
to
be
removed.
Only
because,
if
you
cut
the
roots
is
you're
killing
the
tree
anyway.
R
R
R
R
R
It's
a
strong
attempt,
at
least
we
are
not
dealing
with
wheelchairs
that
are
made
out
of
wood,
wood
or
wooden
wheels
of
yesteryears,
so
we
have
to
think
of
all
the
population.
We
have
to
think
about
the
kids
in
bps
who
have
mobility
challenges
and
maybe
in
a
wheelchair
we
have
to
think
of
our
residents.
R
G
H
S
Good
afternoon
good
evening,
everyone
happy
to
be
here
and
very
grateful
to
be
able
to
speak.
First
thing
I
would
like
to
say:
is
I'm
a
lifelong
roxbury
resident,
and
the
first
thing
that
I
I
think
is
important
is
there's
a
number
of
things
that
were
put
into
the
chat
not
just
on
this
call,
but
on
other
calls-
and
I
think
those
questions
need
to
be
answered.
S
I
would
like
for
the
city
to
answer
those
those
questions
that
are
in
the
chat
and
and
to
give
those
back
to
the
community
in
a
community
in
a
in
a
community
forum
or
either
to
just
put
them
up
on
their
website,
which
brings
me
to
the
question
of
why
this
meeting
wasn't
even
put
on
accu
on
the
city's
website.
That's
my
first
question
and
statement.
My
second,
my
second
statement
is
in
regard
to
the
assessment.
S
The
assessment
value
of
the
park
is
based
on
the
community
that
it's
in,
I
grew
up
in
a
house
at
the
top
of
humboldt
receiver,
which
couldn't
sell
for
even
a
million
dollars,
but
it
had
25
rooms,
a
house
lot
in
a
and
a
carriage
house
behind
it.
So
the
assessment
of
this
park
is
based
on
where
it
is
now
we
can.
S
The
city
can
play
games
or
choose
to
cite
which
whatever
they
want
to
cite,
but
it
is
based
on
where
the
park
is,
and
so
the
value
of
this
park
is
lower
because
it's
in
roxbury.
That's.
The
second
comment
that
I
wanted
to
make.
The
third
comment
is
around
access.
As
far
as
egress
and
entrances,
the
egresses
and
entrances
to
malcolm
x
park
have
been
what
they've
been
for
forever
and
there's
a
number
of
of
ways
that
we
can
access
the
park.
S
The
only
reason
why
that
path
wouldn't
be
wheelchair
accessible
is
because
it
has
steps
at
the
end
of
it,
so
that
path
could
have
just
been
very
easily
made
to
have
a
ramp
with
railings
beside
the
steps
and
that
would
have
enabled
people
to
have
access
now.
The
second
statement.
The
third
statement
I
want
to
make
is
a
fourth
statement-
is
around
accessing
parks.
S
There's
parts
of
that
arboretum
that
you
can't
get
to,
and
I
don't
care
who's
pushing
you,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
was
said
by
miss
bakery
eclipse,
and
I
thank
her
for
statements
of
brown
access
is,
was
about
seeing
the
trees.
Well,
there's
no
see
trees
to
see
if
you
cut
them
down
and
we're
talking
about
cutting
down
mature
trees.
I
live
right
across
the
street
from
while
this
park
I
walked
the
park.
While
I
walked
around
the
park
and
I
walked
the
park
quite
regularly.
S
S
S
The
last
statement
I
wanted
to
make
was,
if
we're
talking
about
putting
in
an
amphitheater,
that's
going
to
remove
the
tree
cover,
then
we
need
to
move
the
amphitheater
or
or
or
just
look
at
the
plan
again.
I
really
think
that
when
you
have
people
who
are
coming
from
outside
the
community
that
make
plans
that
don't
reflect
the
needs
of
the
community
and
then
you
come
to
the
community-
and
you
say
what,
which
one
do
you
choose?
We
choose
none.
We
need
a
plan
that
works
for
the
community.
S
S
My
my
my
last
question
is:
why
is
this
park
being
used
to
set
a
standard
for
the
rest
of
the
parks
in
boston
when
this
park
has
been
historically
uncared
for,
and
I
would
also
like
to
say
that
it's
not
true
that
pathways
are
not
taken
care
of
in
in
major
parks
because
they
are
taking
care
of
in
most
other
parks
across
the
city.
Brookline
even
franklin
park,
which
is
here
in
roxbury,
is
maintained
pathways
in
the
winter.
So
those
are
my
statements
and
my
questions.
C
S
C
C
You
know
you
could
you
can
put
a
pathway,
you
could
put
an
accessible
route
in
where
there
was
steps,
but
then
you
are
impacting
trees
like
we're
like
we're
seeing
we're
trying
to
regarding
the
numbers.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
these
numbers
again.
Give
me
one
second
to
pull
up
the
right.
The
right
document.
C
E
Yeah
go
ahead.
I
I
do
want
to
make
this
clear,
because
I
think
people
have
also
raised
this
in
the
chat
this
park
isn't
actually
setting
the
precedent
for
the
rest
of
the
city.
This
has
been
applied
in
multiple
other
places
across
the
city.
This
so
there's
two
levels.
We
are
bringing
everything
up
to
code
as
we
do
these
large
projects.
So
that's
also
part
of
the
conversation
at
boston
common.
E
E
There
are
also
three
parks
that
we've
actually
made
specific
investments
in
martin's
park
being
one
children's
park,
martin's
park
in
the
seaport
children's
park
in
roxbury,
and
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
name
of
the
third
part
where
we
actually
moved
beyond
just
meeting
the
law
and
actually
design
those
parks.
Specifically
with
thinking
about.
Do
we
have
things
in
braille.
Do
we
have
like?
Are
we
thinking
about
folks
who
have
autism,
so
I
do
want
to
be
clear.
E
I
completely
agree
with
people
that
we
have
not
done
a
good
job,
communicating
this
and
that
we
did
not
talk
about
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
process.
I
wasn't
there
at
the
beginning
of
the
process,
but
I
have
been
over
this
last
year
and
I
think
the
critique
that
we
need
to
be
transparent
about
these
things
from
the
very
beginning
is
absolutely
correct.
It's
actually
not
just
accessibility.
E
E
Almost
every
park
in
the
city,
particularly
the
ones
that
are
already
in
flood
plains
ones
that
are
near
the
water.
We
are
asking
questions
about.
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
mitigate
water
issues
not
just
now,
but
because
we
know
that
climate
change
unfortunately,
will
get
worse.
So
I
do.
I
just
want
to
say
the
critique
that
we
need
to
be
transparent
is
absolutely
correct,
but
this
is
not
actually
being
tested
on
roxbury.
This
has
been
really
going
for
a
number
of
years
and
I
want
to
be
also
transparent.
E
Part
of
it
started
with
a
injunction
that
was
brought
against
us.
It
related
to
make
it
to
jamaica
plain
and
this
question
about.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
never
touch
a
park
and
leave
it
in
such
a
way
that
it
is
not
accessible?
So
I
think
we
will
step.
We
need
to
step
our
game
up
on
transparency,
but
it
is
not
only
here,
and
some
of
what's
happened
in
this
process
is
now
informing
other
processes
to
make
sure
that
we
just
start
that
conversation
earlier.
U
T
Not
being
one
that's,
I
guess
experimenting
or
setting
a
new
standard,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that,
at
the
top
of
this
meeting
kathy
baker,
eclipse
was
the
person
who
said
that
the
going
forward,
the
standard
practice
would
be
improved,
and
I
believe
she
was
talking
about
the
community
process
from
beginning
to
end.
She
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
T
Why
are
we
talking
now
two
months
into
the
construction
phase
about
88
and
it's
potentially
very
major
impacts
on
the
very
clearly
stated
and
prioritized
community
concern
about
retaining
the
what
was
it
the
character
of
the
park?
We
were
very
clear
from
the
beginning
about
what
the
character
of
the
part
meant
to
us.
Everybody
who's
studied
even
the
least
amount
of
urban
history
and
and
and
planning
and
frederick
law.
Homestead
knows
what
the
character
of
this
park
includes.
T
I
don't
find
that
respectful
or
courteous
to
the
community
members
who
participated
and
who
didn't
participate
in
the
process.
Up
to
this
point,
I
find
it
unacceptable
and
not
just
not
transparent,
there's
more
words
that
can
be
used
than
non-transparent
to
describe
that
problem.
We
can
start
with
racially
unjust.
G
T
Racially
unjust,
environmentally
unjust,
municipally,
unjust
and
on
the
list
of
those
who
have
been
disrespected
and
uncourteously
handled
are
asthmatics
who
live
adjacent
to
this
park,
who
I
asked,
does
ada
cover
them
as
well:
latinx
park
users,
particularly
baseball
players,
who
have
been
displaced
from
this
park
by
this
bunk
process,
participants
in
the
community
engagement
process
who
have
wasted
time
and
intellectual
and
other
energies,
the
community
at
large
and
again
the
trees
and
not
the
trees.
Primarily.
T
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
contribution,
derek.
You
have
been
a
very
strong
voice
and
I
do
appreciate
you
your
time
and
your
input.
We
do
have
to
wrap
up
soon,
so
we
will
take.
I
know
that
hands
were
up
till
until
mella,
that's
sophia,
then
carl
richardson,
then
mela
bush.
Unfortunately,
we
have
to
move
after
mella
into
our
survey
question
portion
of
this
and
if
we
have
more
time
beyond
that,
possibly
come
back
to
a
question
or
two,
but
for
now
we'll
stop
at
mella
sophia
you're.
Next.
U
Speaking
thanks,
I
will
do
my
very
best
to
be
brief.
My
name
is
sophia
owen.
I
use
cna
pronouns
and
I'm
the
staff
attorney
at
ace
and
our
office
is
right
down
the
street
from
the
park.
I
myself
live
in
jp,
but
my
so
I
have
several
questions,
some
of
which
have
already
been
raised
by
other
folks,
one
to
answer
a
question
that
was
raised,
but
also
to
put
a
question
to
the
city.
U
The
ada
does
cover
folks
with
respiratory
and
cardiac
related
disabilities,
as
was
said,
I
believe
by
the
commissioner
and
we're
deeply
concerned
about
the
fact
that
this
the
way
that
the
information
about
the
compliance
with
the
ada
or
with
state
building
code
pits
environmental
justice
and
the
roxbury
broader
community,
and
black
and
brown
communities
against
the
disability
community
in
a
completely
inappropriate
way.
I'm
heartened
to
hear
that
there
are
ways
in
which
there
is
some
rethinking
being
done
about
what
the
proposal
could
be.
U
U
I
know
there
have
been
a
lot
of
questions
raised
about
the
turf
field
and
the
the
fact
that
the
park
is
one
that
floods
and
want
to
talk
more
or
hear
more
and
have
more
public
process
around
the
ways
in
which
the
current
proposal
does
or
does
not
meet
community
needs.
So
I
apologize
that
was
a
lot
of
things
but
appreciate
your
time.
V
V
A
couple
of
things
concern
me
about
hearing
the
discussion
tonight.
One
people
keep
asking
about
the
assessed
value
that
triggered
the
accessibility,
and
that
concerns
me
because,
because
a
lot
of
architects,
property
owners
will
use
that
assessed
value
as
a
reason
not
to
trigger
the
work
to
do
accessibility,
the
city
of
boston,
though,
because
they
are
a
title
ii
entity,
meaning
government
not
title
three
like
businesses
and
properties,
have
a
higher
level
of
commitment
and
that
they
have
to
do
with
that.
V
V
Just
think
of
the
number
of
places
in
the
city
that
wheelchair
users
cannot
go
to,
because
poor
buildings
are
historically
significant,
yet
they're
still
paying
the
same
amount
of
taxes
that
those
who
are
not
and
they
don't
get
a
break
on
their
taxes.
If
you
own
property,
you
pay
the
same
as
everybody
else,
and
also
the
concept
of
universal
design
benefits
more
than
just
people
with
disabilities.
It
benefits
everybody.
V
It
benefits
the
80-year-old
grandparent
who
wants
to
go,
watch
their
child
playing
a
softball
game
that
may
not
feel
comfortable
identifying
openly
of
the
person
with
the
disability
such
as
myself,
so
they
may
not
use
a
walker
or
wheelchair,
but
they
want
to
go
watch
their
child
play.
It
may
benefit
the
mother
of
an
infant
who
also
has
a
toddler
who's
playing
on
on
a
playground,
but
they
need
to
push
their
baby
in
the
stroller
to
go.
Watch
their
toddler
play
safely.
V
So
you
know
it
may
benefit
the
parent
who
have
the
disability,
who
should
have
a
fundamental
right
to
go,
watch
their
child
play
on
a
playground.
So
what
concerns
me
about
the
again?
The
access
value
is
whether
or
not
trigger.
I
don't
like
putting
a
dollar
amount
to.
What
is
morally
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
don't
like
putting
a
dollar
amount
to
what
I
consider
my
civil
rights
to
be
able
to
access
all
the
programs,
services
and
activities
within
the
city
of
boston
fully
and
equally
to
everybody
else.
Thank
you.
K
I
would
never,
in
my
life,
want
to
divide
people
along
the
lines
of
who's,
more
disabled
or
who's
more
able-bodied
or
or
try
to
put
pick
that
at
something
in
our
community
that
we
should
ever
have
some
big
fight
about,
but
there
is,
there
are
a
few
things
that
are
happening
in
this
park.
One
of
them
is
the
toxic
turf,
the
mat
field,
with
the
cushioning
underneath,
which
we're
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
be
tire
crumb
that
will
cause.
K
I
live
across
the
street
from
the
park
first
of
all,
so
that
that
can
cause
all
sorts
of
asthma
and
respiratory
disease
related,
there's
also
all
sorts
of
connections
to
overheating
and
harm
coming
to
children
who
play
on
those
fields,
and
it
was
developed
for
the
inside
of
the
houston
astrodome,
because
the
grass
kept
dying
because
it
was
inside
of
a
dome
in
an
enclosed
space.
This
is
an
open
air
park.
K
What
we
need
is
to
have
a
community
process
that
is
inclusive
that
is
respectful
and
that
acknowledges
that
we,
as
the
residents
are
the
salary
payers
of
the
people
who
are
on
staff
at
the
city
of
boston
in
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
And
that's
not
what
I
intended
to
say.
The
other
thing
is,
and
so
that
needs
to
be
dealt
with,
because
we
are
all
taxpayers
here,
we're
paying
for
this
time
and
our
time
should
be
respected
as
just
as
valuable
as
those
who
are
being
paid
to
be
here
tonight.
K
The
other
thing
that
I've
wanted.
The
last
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
there's
still
a
considerable
number
of
trees
in
this
process
that
are
scheduled
for
removal
and
the
process
did
not
include
the
other.
The
other
tenants
on
this
plot
of
land,
which
a
bcyf
which
has
a
fitness
center
inside
in
a
program
for
seniors
to
for
exercise,
programs
and
everything,
and
so
there's
other
trees
that
are
being
removed,
like
the
cherry
trees,
to
take
down
to
put
in
exercise
equipment
outside
and
there's.
K
So
many
other
factors
to
this
and
the
city
of
boston
needs
to
reopen
the
process
so
that
we
have
a
cohesive
and
inclusive
process
that
includes
dci
property,
the
walking
paths
that
are
inside
the
track
at
melania
cast
track
as
well,
so
that
and
also
not
to
let
people
go
on
and
on
and
on
when
they're
talking
about
disability
rights
and
then
when
people
want
to
talk
about
trees
in
the
park,
they're
cut
off
short,
and
I
will
let
my
time
go
now.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
so
much
sister
mello.
I
think
at
this
point
I'm
gonna
address
this
briefly
and
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
allow
johanna
hines
johanna.
You
made
a
few
statements
tonight
and
what
we
I
consider
respectful
and
I'll
allow
you
to
respond
is
not
being
policed.
In
roxbury,
as
a
black
woman
in
roxbury,
who
witnessed
my
own
friend
getting
killed
in
malcolm
x
park,
someone
who
fell
on
top
of
my
body,
I
know
very
well
with
this
rocks
what
malcolm
x
park
needs
in
roxbury
as
a
city
councilor
for
district
7.
G
My
job
is
to
consolidate
all
people
and
to
all
to
also
be
an
ambassador
or
to
a
steward
of
conversations
and
voices,
but
we
cannot
police
one
another.
You
cannot
come
from
outside
of
the
district,
yes
you're
an
ally
and
respectfully
you
are
more
than
welcome
and
I
would
love
to
work
with
you
on
making
sure
that
we
advocate
for
the
right
things.
But
what
I
will
not
allow
is
this
privileged
attitude
of
you're
going
to
file
a
complaint.
You
can
just
talk
to
us.
I
was
trying
to
make
sure
that
people
had
fair
time.
G
So
we
can
get
to
you.
In
fact
you
were
not
one
of
the
first.
I
checked
all
hands
and
I
wrote
them
down,
but
you
were,
you
were:
are
your
hands
were
up
midway
toward
after
you
were
told,
to
raise
your
hand
and
you
can
be
allowed
to
speak
more
than
welcome
to
speak,
but
we
cannot
to
have
this
privileged
attitude
and
this
policing
attitude
in
these
meetings
that
is
now
respectful.
G
So
as
district
7
counselor,
I'm
here
to
prioritize
the
abutting
neighbors
and
absolutely
will
allow
everyone
a
voice
and
tried
my
best,
and
I
was
not
using
a
timer
and
maybe
next
time
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
but
I
will
try
my
best
to
be
fair.
I
do
apologize
if
the
time
seemed
a
little
bit
lopsided.
That
is
not
the
intention,
but
please
don't
do
that.
Please
don't
please
don't
police
this
meeting.
W
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman,
for
all
of
that,
I
I
I
will
file
it
away.
It
comes
to
my
attention
or
came
to
my
attention
that
the
parks,
the
trees
and
parks
are
not
protected
or
covered
under
chapter
87,
which
is
really
troubling.
But
what
I
also
learned
today
was
that
the
city
council
can
vote
in
having
trees
in
parks
covered
under
chapter
87.
So
I
hope
that
is
something
that
you
will
consider
advocating
for
because
it
would
avoid
a
lot
of
this.
W
Another
question
that
I
have
and
of
when
you
valued
the
land.
I'm
gonna
ask
three
questions.
If
I
can
do
that
and
then
you
can
answer
them
after
when
the
land
was
valued
at
two
point:
whatever
million
was
the
value
of
the
trees
included
in
that,
because
in
charlestown
they're
taking
down
350
trees
from
city
land
that
is
surrounded
by
public
housing
and
those
trees
were
assessed
by
bartlett
trees
at
being
about
1.5
million
dollars.
W
So
I'm
curious
when
this
inventory
by
a
certified
arborist
was
done
at
malcolm
x.
What
is
the
monetary
value
of
those
trees
and
was
that
value
added
to
the
total
value
of
the
land,
a
question
having
to
do
with
that?
How
much
is
the
turf?
What
percentage
of
the
30
that
you
guys
talked
about
is
the
turf.
So
what
is
the
cost
of
putting
that
turf
down?
What
is
the
cost
of
the
security
cameras,
the
lights
and
the
amphitheater?
W
I'm
I've
learned
recently
because
I'm
very
involved
with
the
urban
forest
crisis
that
we're
dealing
with
here
in
in
boston,
and
I
mean
I
can't
help
but
laugh
sometimes
when
I
think
about
the
parks
department
spearheading
an
initiative
to
preserve
trees
through
a
tree
ordinance
and,
at
the
same
time
hiring
a
designer
and
a
contractor
without
having
any
protocols
around
having
an
arborist
there
or
making
sure
that
the
objectives
set
by
the
neighborhood
would
be.
You
know,
kept
in
check.
The
city
of
boston
is
your
client.
W
You
are
working
for
us
and
we
are
literally
paying
for
this
project.
If
you
mess
up
and
don't
do
your
due
diligence,
that's
on
you,
you
don't
get
to
come
back
to
the
client
and
say
I
messed
up.
Is
it
okay?
If
we
just
keep
moving
forward?
I'm
really
sorry
that
if,
if
this
was
business,
you'd
be
fired,
the
whole
department,
so
that's
unacceptable,
and
it's
really
it's
insulting
my
next.
So
as
far
as
the
replacement,
you
said
something
about
97
trees.
If
you
take
down
54.,
it
turns
out
trees
that
are
three
inch.
W
Diameter
or
lower
or
four
inch
are
not
even
considered.
Trees,
they're
considered
shrubs,
so
they're,
not
a
replacement
at
all
and
what
is
the
total
dbh
for
the
54
trees?
So
if
one
tree
measures
at
a
you
know
a
35,
circumference
and
another
is
20..
What's
the
total
dbh
for
all
the
trees
you
want
to
remove,
because,
if
you're
offering
to
replace
with
97
3-inch
saplings
that
doesn't
cover
it.
That
is
not
an
equal
exchange.
W
W
My
last
question
has
to
do
with
the
esplanade,
so
I
take
a
lot
of
walks
along
the
esplanade
in
along
the
science
museum
and
going
down
the
river
and
they're
doing
a
ton
of
work
down
there.
Excavating
digging
up,
smoothing
out
filling
in
the
esplanade
goes
quite
a
long
way,
also
in
olmsted
design.
I'm
curious
about
what
that
means
for
the
whole
westland.
W
Are
you
telling
us
that,
if
it's,
if
the
project
that's
being
done,
is
over
30
percent
in
terms
of
value
that
the
whole
esplanade
all
the
way
to
cambridge-
or
you
know
all
the
way
to
wherever
down
by
mass
ave
and
beyond,
has
to
be
brought
up
to
ada,
because
the
bike
path
has
a
lot
of
bumps.
I
know,
because
I've
fallen
off
my
bike
once
or
twice,
and
the
trees
that
line
that
path
are
big
and
valued.
They
even
have
name
tags
on
them,
telling
the
people
that
walk
by
what
they
are.
W
Are
you
are
you?
Are
you
telling
us
that
the
is
it?
So
is
the
project
that's
being
done
up
by
the
science
museum
corner
of
the
esplanade
going
to
going
to
trigger
an
entire
paving
of
that
path,
which
will
most
certainly
destroy
the
trees
with
name
tags?
I'd,
like
I
mean
really.
I
have
a
hard
time
believing
that
so
is
there
a
legal
document
that
shows,
if
you
know
what
what
the
criteria
is
for
improvements
and
and
I
just
the
the
hypocrisy
is
overwhelming
and
the
city
really
needs
to
get
its
act
together.
W
I
expect
more
from
the
city
of
boston
and
I'm
embarrassed
by
what's
happening
here.
I'm
embarrassed
for
your
departments,
I'm
embarrassed
for
the
lack
of
leadership
and
I
just
want
to
know
what
are
those
kids
in
roxbury
going
to
think,
and
I
don't
know
so-
I'm
actually
wondering
when
they
walk
by
and
they
see
all
the
trees
being
cut
down
and
then
they're
hearing
from
their
parents
and
their
school.
How
important
it
is
to
save
trees
because
we're
in
a
climate
crisis.
What
kind
of.
W
H
Sorry
can
I
respond
to
one
thing
I
do
want
to
just
address
johanna's
comment
and
a
lot
of
comments
in
the
chat.
I
think
everybody
is
getting
focused
on
the
30
mark
that
we
mentioned,
but
to
step
back
for
a
moment.
It
is
a
law.
It
is
two
laws,
ada
and
aab
all
work,
that's
done
all
new
work
and
all
renovations
have
to
be
compliant.
H
So
whenever
the
city
does
any
work
in
any
park
or
any
building,
all
that
work
has
to
be
compliant.
Whether
or
not
this
is
triggering
the
30
percent
assessed
value
which
it
is
because
we
looked
at
the
definition
and
a
park
is
considered
a
city
facility
which
is
the
same
as
a
building.
So
regardless
of
the
30
percent
threshold,
all
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
in
this
park
needs
to
be
ada
compliant,
that's
a
law,
it's
a
building
code
and
it's
a
civil
rights
law.
H
M
X
X
X
You
know
it's
a
big
history
in
the
park
that
that
we
have
myself.
I've
been
playing
the
park
for
22
23
years
now,
and
it's
a
lot
of
people
that
I
know
and
may
and
people
that
haven't
passed
away
in
in
that
field
and
we
also
have
a
play
in
one
of
the
trees.
I
want
to
ask
about
that
tree.
That
phrase
is
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
removed
from
the
park.
What's
going
to
happen
with
the
plate
with
the
people's
name,
who
also
passed
away
in
that
park.
X
X
X
C
So
I
think
if
we
can
go
back,
I
think
we've
got
all
the
hands
raised.
I
think
we
can
go
back
to
the
questions
and
this
was
intended
to
to
gauge
people's
level
of
receptiveness
you're
by
no
means
required
to
participate,
but
this,
if
you'd
like
to
share
your
opinion
about
whether
one
thing
should
be
prioritized
over
another.
C
I
These
are
the
ones
that
are
a
little
more
involved
and
the
question
really
that
we're
putting
to
you
is
of
of
the
importance
of
these
trees
and
believe
me,
I
understand
that
all
trees
are
important.
It's
not
our
intention
to
to
clear
cutter
cut
down
everything
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
to
save
every
tree.
We
possibly
can
with
the
with
the
limitations
that
are
imposed
upon
us
with
all
the
different
work
and
the
requirements
that
come
in
from
from
different
and
sometimes
conflicting
requirements
to
the
park.
I
One.
The
first
two
that
we're
discussing
is
this
mature
pine
tree
at
the
corner
of
regent
and
dale.
Our
initial
plans,
as
I
mentioned,
put
the
accessible
route
close
to
the
the
roots
so
that
we
can
get
enough
length
to
bring
people
up
to
the
upper
grades
in
the
park
with
a
revision
and
the
inclusion
of
a
ramp
in
that
site,
we
could
move
the
alignment
of
the
pathway
far
enough
out
of
the
root
zone
that
we
expect.
I
D
D
C
There's
about
fifty
percent
of
people
have
have
answered,
which
I
think
given
some
of
the
feelings
in
the
in
the
chat
and
that
that
feels
like
a
fairly
good
representative.
It's
about
four
to
one
that
adding
a
section
of
ramp
with
handrails
at
the
entrance
would
be
something
that
that
will
we
will
further
develop
and
and
do
our
best
efforts
to
save
that
tree.
I
C
So
can
we
launch
poll
question
two?
There
we
go
so
this
would
be
eliminating
the
amphitheater
as
a
program
element
from
the
park.
So
we
would.
We
would
not
include
an
amphitheater
near
the
school
as
a
as
a
program
to
the
park,
and
it
would
mean
if
we
were
to
keep
the
amphitheater
as
a
program
element
in
quote
in
nearby
adjacency
to
the
park.
It
would
mean
the
removal
of
one
tree.
C
And
see
a
couple
questions
in
the
in
the
chat,
the
the
amphitheater.
If
we
decrease
the
size,
it
would
not
change
the
need
to
remove
the
tree
it
would.
The
tree
is
where
the
pathway
is
proposed
and
the
pathway
location
is
dictated
by
the
ability
to
it's
kind
of
right
in
between
two
other
trees,
so
doing
the
least
amount
of
damage
to
more
trees
and
and
that's
the
best
location
for
accessibility.
I
Kathy
the
third
tree
and
again,
you
know:
we've
looked
at
all
of
them.
These
are
the
ones
that
we
found
the
ability
to
add
a
little
more
effort
and
cost
and
design
development
to
save
these
trees
would
include
a
salvage
block
retaining
wall.
So
this
would
be
a
granite
block.
Retaining
wall
to
try
to
keep
a
natural
feel
to
the
site,
it'd
be
very
similar
to
the
amphitheater
area,
so
it
would
tie
in
and
indicate
in
this
case
it's
a
mature
maple
tree
and
you
can
see
from
the
picture.
I
There
is
some
significant
die
back
within
the
crown,
but
you
know
knowing
knowing
mature
trees,
it's
very
comfortably
able
to
live
for
a
few
years
longer
as
it
is
so.
The
goal
here
would
be
the
addition
of
this
retaining
walls,
low,
retaining
wall,
be
it
seat,
level,
height,
more
or
less
to
to
preserve
this
tree.
C
So
the
the
wall
would
be
would
be
made
of
some
salvaged
granite
block,
it
is
not
native
to
the
site
is
not
putting
stone.
It's
salvaged
from
other
park
projects
that
we
have
done,
so
it
will
look
different
than
the
the
the
olmstead
era
walls,
but
it
will
have
a
natural
wall
being
made
of
natural
material
that
is
more
in
keeping
with
with
with
the
with
the
hillside,
but
it
will
be
of
a
different
material
than
the
walls
which
are
more
of
a
cut
stone
in
smaller
pieces.
C
C
All
right,
it's
getting
a
couple
couple
more,
but
the
the
the
polls
seem
to
be
so.
Let's,
let's
end
this
poll,
because
it
does
seem
to
be
a
pretty
clear,
clear
preference
to
keep
the
wall
and
at
the
low
retaining
wall.
So
I
think
that
is
something
that
we
will
continue
to
investigate
and
to
see
if
that
is
possible.
J
I
Yes,
the
last
question
is
really
about
the
community
stewards
and
having
a
third
party
tree
evaluation
and
and
walking
discussion
with
the
tree
warden,
and
the
question
really
comes
down
to.
If
that
evaluation
indicates
that
trees
that
were
currently
outside
of
our
our
project,
scope
of
actual
impact
and
construction
should
be
removed
or
other
trees
along
the
path
that
they
have.
A
different
opinion
on
should
be
looked
at,
should
those
trees
be
removed
or
should
the
trees
remain.
D
C
C
All
right,
I
think
this
has
slowed,
so
I
think
I'm
gonna
end
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you
for
ending
the
poll,
so
it
was
about
56
to
support
the
additional
tree
removals
if
by,
if
both
arborists
agree
that
they
should
be
removed,
44
say
leave
all
the
trees,
no
matter
their
condition
in
place.
So
we
will
follow
up
with
the
friends
and
community
stewards
of
malcolm
x
park
and
and
because
their
their
interest
is
is
is
one
that
we
need
to.
C
We
need
to
respect
so
I
do
want
to
just
wrap
up
with
some
some
final,
some
final
next
steps
and-
and
I
think
we
can
open
it
up
for
additional
questions
if
there's,
if
there's
time
or
additional
questions
after
this,
these
final,
it's
final
next
steps,
so
the
we
will
be
resuming
construction,
including
work
on
the
hill.
Next
week
monday,
we
will
give
the
contractor
the
go-ahead
to
start
construction
again.
C
There
is
no
date
right
yet
for
when
the
trees
will
be
removed,
but
he
will
be
scheduling
that
resuming
tree
removal
as
part
of
his
work
plan.
We
will
be
removing
the
paint
on
tr
on
the
trees,
whose
fate
we
have
we've
reassessed
and
we
will
be
using
a
citrus
based
paint.
Removal
agent
scrubbing
the
paint
according
to
the
paint
removal,
product
recommendations
and
pressure
washing
may
be
used
for
trees
with
thick
thick
bark
such
as
hornbeam
chestnut,
locust
oak
or
cottonwood.
C
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
get
engaged
with
the
community
stewards
and
friends
of
malcolm
x
park.
Donations
will
be
needed
to
help
the
health
of
these
trees
to
remain
and
their
their
strength
will
be.
The
with
will
be
the
park's
strength,
so
that
is.
That
is
all
of
the
points
I
wanted
to
make
as
we
wrap
up.
I
think
we
can
probably
open
up
for
a
few
more
questions.
If
there's
time,
let
me
find
my
participants
sophia.
D
G
Q
I.
I
think
that
this
is
such
a
missed
opportunity.
I
have
been
involved
on
a
number
of
fronts,
but
specifically,
I
just
used
the
last
example.
The
the
last
question.
I
I
abstain
from
the
poll
in
part
because
several
of
the
questions,
some
of
the
materials
in
that
poll
were
asked
in
the
chat
and
we
couldn't
get
an
answer.
Q
One
question
that
I
did
ask
was
about
the
obverse
and
michael's
role,
for
example,
and
we
had
been
the
the
community.
Stewards
have
been
asking
for
some
time
to
have
them
both
walk
together
and
come
up
with
a
list.
The
idea
that
the
question
on
a
poll
that
purports
to
be
representing
the
concerns
of
those
community
stewards
would
be
one
that
says.
We
don't
think
that
you're
tearing
down
enough
dead
trees
is
so
twisted
to
what
we're
here
about
tonight,
and
I
think
you
know
I.
Q
I'm
I'm
clear
on
this
issue
about
the
the
arborist,
like
the
response
that
I
that
I
did
get
and
I
appreciate
the
answer
is
that
the
the
arborist,
who
did
all
the
assessments
and
all
this
talk
about
the
trees
worked
for
the
contractor
and
he's
gone.
So
there
isn't
one
right
now
so
so
that's
why
there's
no
one
to
answer
specific
kind
of
the
process
and
how
we
got
here,
which
is
just
one
of
the
the
the
problems
with
this
with
this
this
this
I
mean.
Q
Are
you
gonna
take
that
poll
that
you
took
and
then
represent,
that
we
had
a
hundred
and
fifty?
You
know.
100
people
participated,
and
this
is
the
answer,
because
that
clearly
isn't
what
just
happened,
and
my
my
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
I.
This
is
something
we
could
work
out.
I
think
we
could
do
this.
We
can
make
it
work.
Q
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
I
couldn't
answer
those
like
a
whole
design
and
walking
through
is
a
simple
thing
that
we
could
do.
I
think
you've
done
it
before
and
as
the
process
changes
or
the
plan
and
design
changes
schedule.
Another
walk,
let's
walk
through
point
it
where
it
is.
I
have
no
idea
what
those
renderings
just
saw,
what
they
showed
and
where
they
are
in
the
park,
and
I'm
sorry
that
the
gentleman
who's
focused
on
you
know.
Q
Softball
feels
like
he's
wasted
his
time
he's
never
coming
back,
we're
going
to
work
with
him
to
come
back
because
walking
away
is
not
something
we
can.
We
should
do,
but
staying
has
to
mean
something
kathy
it
just
it
has
to,
and
I
know
that
you're
not
you
you
you
are
commit.
You
spend
too
much
time
on
this
you're
reading
those
chats.
Q
Q
This
idea
that
they're
people
who
said
I
don't
want
to
do
you
know
people
with
disabilities.
We
don't
want
them
to
have
access,
of
course
not.
But
the
point
is
what
we
want
you
to
recognize.
Is
that
there's
all
different
kinds
of
disabilities
that
we
now
because
of
where
we
live,
have
to
be
accommodating?
And
I
think
we
can
do
that
if
we
put
all
the
cards
on
the
table-
and
so
I'm
just
saying
just
as
this
is
very
very,
very,
very
distressing,
very
disappointing.
Q
J
Q
C
Y
Y
So
let's
keep
this
momentum
going
and
let's
keep
making
more
progress
in
that
regard,
I
suggest
that
the
work
not
restore
on
the
site
until
you
have
a
clear
unless
you
can
pull
the
community
tonight
and
have
a
clear
understanding,
a
clear
response
that
the
community
is
willing
to.
Let
you
cut
down
the
trees
that
you
have
slated
to
cut
down.
You
have
decided
to
cut
down.
Y
Y
Y
C
C
C
The
minimum
that
we
feel
like
we
need
to
remove
in
order
to
achieve
the
overall
goals
of
the
project
which
include
renovating
the
all
the
program
areas
and
creating
accessible
accessibility
throughout
the
site.
So
29
is
is
a
minimum
that
we
need
to
remove
and
removing
further
additional
trees.
We
cannot
guarantee
their
health,
they
would
suffer.
G
Kathy,
can
you
ask
a
question
before
we
say
good
night
and
wrap
up
a
couple
of
comments
for
questions
that
were
posted
about
minutes?
I
guess
you
know
moving
forward
in
the
future.
What
are
the
possibilities
of,
maybe
is
maybe
a
community
volunteer,
or
maybe
someone
from
your
department
to
do
minutes
is
that
possible
at
all,
and
the
other
thing
is
a
full
comprehensive
plan
to
be
posted
before
the
process
begins.
Development.
E
Tanya
I
can
counselor
I
can
speak
to
that,
which
is
that
we
always
post
recordings,
and
that
is
in
part
so
that
you
can
see
what
people
said
for
themselves
as
opposed
to
a
representation
of
what
was
said.
So
that
has
been
the
practice,
I'm
open
to
a
conversation
about
whether
or
not
we
could
do
that.
I'm
not
sure
where
you
know
how
we
would
do
that
because
then
you
end
up
in
an
issue
where.
E
G
G
Yes,
we
can,
I'm
I'm
sorry,
derek
and
born
if
we
do
have
to
close,
and
I
have
fasting
brain.
It's
been
past
time
for
me
to
go,
but
I
do
apologize.
I
would
love
to
see
you
guys
in
my
office
if
any
of
you
want
to
speak,
d7
or
not
johanna.
I
welcome
you
to
visit
me
or
schedule
time
with
me.
I
do
canvassing
on
sundays.
G
If
you
email
me
I'll
come
to
your
door
and
then
please
call
me
or
email
me
and
schedule,
so
we
can
talk
further.
If
you,
if
you
need
to
give
me
more,
I
would
love
to
discuss
for
other
ways
that
we
can
improve
on
engagement
again.
My
job
is
to
support
this
departments
in
the
city
to
improve
these
processes.
C
Yeah,
so
I
I
am
not
the
project
manager,
so
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
of
lauren
and
process
and
everything
that
she's
done
all
the
hard
work.
She's
done
to
bring
this
the
project
to
this
point,
but
I
think
we
can
burst.
We
are
immediately
going
to
be
posting
the
recording
and
posting
the
slides.
I
think
we
can.
We
can
copy
this,
the
the
chat
and
and
share
that
as
well,
and
then
I
think,
I
think
some
of
the
work
we
need
to
do
as
a
city
is.
C
C
Put
it
in
the
chat,
so
that's
that's
the
landing
place
for
all
of
the
all
the
documents
relating
to
relating
to
this
project.
We
are
doing
also
regular
construction
updates
throughout
the
construction
season,
so
there
will
be
some
updates
coming
if
you
are
on
lauren's
mailing
list,
you'll
be
receiving
that
she's
also
posting
that
on
the
website,
as
well
as
those
go
out.
C
So
look
for
that
on
the
website
and
we'll
send
that
out
and
notice
that
that
it
is
live
as
well.
So
again
we're
going
to
be
starting,
restarting
construction.
I
think
primarily
on
the
on
the
courts
and
the
playground
to
start
and
then
the
the
trees
will
be
will
be
scheduled
when
it
works
for
construction
sequencing.
C
D
Z
Doing
I'm
doing
fine?
Thank
you.
I've
been
on
the
meeting
ever
since
I
started
I've
been
wanting
to
say
something
since
it
started,
but
it's
okay.
I
just
want
to
actually
say
one
really
thing
about
this
whole
meeting,
I
would
think,
would
be
great
for
the
staff,
the
project
manager,
designing
team
and
the
people
in
the
community.
Z
Diane
wilkerson
mentioned
something
that
I
was
want.
This
is
what
I
want
to
say.
I'm
piggybacking
off
of
what
she
said
was
that
she
haven't
seen
what
the
ramps
would
look
like
the
designs
that
might
put
on
the
screen
for
everyone
to
see
really
it's
very
hard
to
see
that
and
imagine
it
to
actually
be
there
at
the
park.
Z
I
scheduled
a
meeting
back
in
2021
september,
28th
2021,
with
laura
bryant
and
mike
and
them
the
designing
team.
They
came
out
with
the
community,
and
it
was
a
very
good
like
walking
and
through
meeting
that
we
had
out
there
with
a
community,
was
athlete
to
touch
and
see
what
mike
was
offering
with
the
designs
that
he
had
brought
out
but
anyways.
C
I
think
understanding
all
the
complexities
of
the
project
and
the
impacts
on
every
single
tree
is
something
that
is
is
one
of
our
challenges
and
the
design
team's
challenges.
But
explaining
that
in
a
comprehensive
way
is
is
a
real
is,
is
very
challenging.
I
think
that's
part
of
what
some
of
the
the
disconnect
is
between
the
design
plan
and
what
the
community
perceives
so
as
essential.
Z
Z
C
S
Yes,
I
do.
This
is
just
like
an
extension
of
roxbury
strategic
master
plan.
Right
city
makes
a
plan.
They
don't
consult
the
residents.
The
residents
have
to
come
up
with
a
rebuttal,
the
city
of
the
city,
you
can't
plan
in
the
city
or
for
a
part
of
the
city
where
you
haven't
talked
to
the
residents
you're
using
this
meeting.
S
Just
I
don't.
I
don't
have
to
say
what
the
senator
wilkerson
already
stated:
you're,
basically
using
every
next
meeting
as
a
platform
to
say
that
at
the
last
meeting
it
was
okayed
and
we
got
this
poll
taken.
Those
polls
do
not
represent
the
entire
community.
The
entire
community
is
not
on
this
call,
you're
continuing
to
be
disrespectful
and
rude.
This
isn't
a
transparent
process.
S
You've
come
in
with
a
plan.
The
plan
is
not
a
good
plan,
it
does
not
save
the
trees.
If,
in
the
top,
five
of
the
pole
you
took
for
the
past
two
years,
it
said,
save
the
trees
was
number
five
you're
talking
about
cutting
down
29
trees,
there's
no
way
that
a
young
sapling
tree
can
save
an
elder
tree
or
do
what
an
elder
tree
does
with
the
the
type
of
runoff
we
have
those
saplings
and
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
planting
will
be
in
the
downspouts
or
be
in
the
catch
basins.
S
The
city
is
irresponsible
in
regard
to
taking
care
of
this
part
of
the
city.
So
if
you
just
will
clean
the
catch
basins
which
have
to
be
done
more
around
parks
because
there's
more
debris
more
leaves
more
all
these
things
right,
so
we're
talking
about
just
consistent
care,
there's
no
consistent
care,
and
if
the
city
cared,
if
you
all
cared
and
what
you
were
saying
to
us
tonight,
you
would
come
with
a
clear
plan
that
had
the
streets
on
the
sides
of
the
map.
That
would
clearly
talk
about
trees.
Clearly
talk
about
the
things.
S
Instead
of
that
now
it's
like
you're,
pitting
the
community
against
itself.
There's
no
right
answer
to
these
polls.
There's
no
right
answer
to
the
poll
you're
talking
about
removing
elder
trees
which
hold
ground
in
place
all
right,
so
you
know
this
whole
discussion.
This
whole
thing
we
did
tonight
about
going
around
and
having
this
meeting
where
you're
going
to
move
on
monday
anyway,
the
only
way
we
could
stop.
S
This
is
why,
by
what
putting
a
line
of
bodies
around
the
park,
to
stop
you
from
coming
in
to
do
the
work
to
make
a
larger
awareness
to
the
community
of
what's
happening
in
roxbury?
That's
what
we
have
to
do
to
get
this
thing
to
stop!
That's
not
right!
You
know
my
father
was
a
community
organizer.
I
listened
to
community
organizing
for
years
right.
This
is
the
same
thing
it's
new
faces
at
the
city,
but
it's
the
same
plan,
it's
it.
This
is
shameful.
It's
disgusting.
G
We
know
this
where
we
fail
as
a
community
as
black
people
is
that
when
we
have
white
allies
to
this
magnitude
that
comes
to
a
meeting
about
trees
when
it's
about
violence,
we
need
them,
but
to
for
some
reason,
trees
is
a
priority
when
it's
about
other
things
hold
on.
When
it's
about
other
things
like
development,
we
don't
see,
we
don't
have
that
type
of
organization
in
order
for
us
to
confront
technicalities,
bureaucracies
and
systems
and
policies
beforehand.
G
G
So
if
we
are
not
able
to
work
in
a
ahead
of
time,
they
will
always
get
us
with
technicalities,
and
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear
and
the
budget
may
not.
We
didn't
tackle
the
budget
before
this
pro
this
plan,
so
we
don't
have
more
money
for
this
plan.
We
didn't
tackle
the
policies
and
if
we
did,
we
did
we
weren't
successful.
G
Here
we
are,
and
so
what
I
would
ask
you
is
for
us
to
partner
up
in
the
advisory
council
we're
trying
to
work
on
this.
We're
trying
to
work
on
this
on
filing
policies.
We're
trying
to
work
on
this
show
up
to
the
hearings,
change
the
policies
right,
but
in
this
meeting
the
people
here
are
doing
what
they
can
with
what
they
got.
G
And
that's
my
thing
about
talking
to
you
in
this
meeting
is
saying
there
are
there's
a
different
place
for
us
to
tackle
this
issue
from
the
root,
because
this
here
in
this
meeting
is
not
where,
if
we're
not
successful,
it's
because
we're
always
playing
catch-up.
So
I
agree
with
you.
The
system
is
systemically
racist
and
it
does
not
actually
engage
us
in
a
way
beforehand.
G
T
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
55
years
old
and
since
I
was
beginning
when
I
was
23
years
old,
I
lived
in
roxbury
on
waukulla
street
and
taught
civil
rights
history
at
boston
college.
After
being
a
researcher
for
the
eyes
on
the
prize
film
series
I'm
very
familiar
and
have
been
for
decades
with
systemic
racism
in
this
city
nationally
and
globally.
I
have
taught
people
who
currently
write
about
it
far
and
wide,
and
I
practice
this
knowledge,
not
only
here
in
roxbury,
but
in
mississippi.
T
T
That
park.
That's
not
50
feet
outside
of
this
window
and
those
trees
who
I
live,
the
closest
to
of
anyone
on
this
call.
Okay,
who
just
I
didn't
just
learn
last
week,
who
frederick
law
olmstead
is.
I
live
here
in
part
because
of
frederick
law
homestead,
as
well
as
my
black
and
brown
brothers
and
sisters
that
turn
this
into
the
community.
That's
worth
calling
home
during
decades
decades
of
neglect,
benign
neglect
that
I
frankly
would
much
rather
be
enduring
right
now
than
the
condescension,
the
condescension,
the
disrespect.
T
The
false
choices
that
I've
been
subjected
to
and
seen
my
neighbors
subject
suggested
to
and
seen
people
that
we
have
invited
to
join
us
because
our
leaders
have
failed.
I'm
talking
about
our
elected
leaders,
I'm
talking
about
our
appointed
leaders,
I'm
talking
about
the
careerists
who
work
in
city
departments,
I'm
talking
about
contractors
and
unfortunately,
I'm
talking
about
a
number
of
black
and
brown
people
and
yellow
okay,
that's
what
derek
evans
has
to
say
about
that.
T
She
cannot
own
this
process
the
way
that
she
so
personally
personalizes
it
and
has
her
feelings,
wouldn't
be
so
hurt
people
wouldn't
regard
this
process
in
recent
weeks
of
being
so
disrespectful
or
dysfunctional
or
or
abrasive,
if
it
weren't
so
personal,
in
a
way
that
it's
actually
not.
This
is
about
my
tax
dollars.
This
is
about
my
part.
This
is
about
the
asthmatic
children.
T
G
Thank
you,
derek
jeremy
entertains
is
over,
but
I
think
that
we
should
wrap
this
up
derek.
I
appreciate
you.
I've
sent
my
email.
I
look
forward
to
talking
to
all
of
you.
Unfortunately
we're
out
of
time
and
again,
please
contact
me,
I'm
your
city
councilor,
please
contact
me,
so
we
can
talk.
You
are
welcome
to
visit
me
here.
We
can
meet
again,
even
if
I'm,
if
you're,
not
in
district
seven.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
G
G
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
participation.
I
hope
you
know
that
I
I
personally
have
heard
you,
and
I
know
that
this
team
has
heard
you
and
any
comments
be
on
here.
Any
information
that
you
need.
Email
me
I
will
respond.
I
will
send
you
any
missing
information
that
you
are
not
able
to
access
anything
that
I'm
allowed
to
share
with
you
and
again,
if
you
like
to
chat,
we
can
schedule
a
meeting
and
we
can
talk.
I
I
thank
you
and
good
night
to
all.