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From YouTube: Organized Residential Waste & Recycling Collection Citizen's Committee - October 12, 2020
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1. Chair Ward approved the Agenda
2. Recognition of Public Comment
3. New Business
Communication Between committee members From committee members to staff Staff to committee members
Expectations How and what staff communicates to committee members
Process Determining decisions and next steps
Committee Member Attendance and Availability
Setting Agenda Items
Establishing a Set Meeting Date and Time
Committee Meetings & Protocol
4. Old Business
5. Adjourn
2. Approval of Minutes
September 3, 2020
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A
So,
unless
there's
any
objection,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
of
the
organized
residential
waste
and
recycling
collection
citizens
committee
to
order
it's
602
pm
on
monday
october
12th,
our
first
order
of
business
is
approval
of
the
previous
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
A
D
D
Would
it
not
be
important
on
your
end,
to
publicize
those
meetings
other
than
you
have
to
go
to
the
website?
Nobody
knows
so.
My
assumption
may
be
wrongfully.
So
has
to
be
that
nobody,
you
don't
want
to
know
people
about
those
meetings,
so
in
it
in
spring
may
june
july
august
we
got
brochures
from
the
city
of
englewood
of
how
to
use
the
library
and
it
was
flashy.
It
was
glossy,
but
everything
was
closed.
D
D
D
A
A
So
the
first
question
regarding
published
publication
of
the
meetings.
There
is
a
requirement
under
colorado
law
regarding
open
meetings
and
the
publication
of
those
open
meetings,
and
my
understanding
is
that
these
meetings,
like
all
city
meetings,
have
met
those
requirements
as
far
as
firing
a
neighborhood
is
concerned
or
sending
out
some
sort
of
special
notice.
A
I
don't
believe
that
did
occur.
However,
the
statutory
requirement
has
been
met.
You
we're
meeting
publicly
here
tonight
and
I
don't
believe
that
there's
been
any
attempt
to
keep
this
held
as
secret.
The
second
question
regarding
being
forced
to
use
one
company
or
another.
The
purpose
of
this
committee
is
to
evaluate
proposals
to
send
inglewood
to
a
single
hauler
this
at
the
conclusion
of
this
committee.
A
The
hope
is
that
the
committee
will
be
able
to
send
recommendations
to
council
any
decision
regarding
waste
collection,
centralized
or
organized
under
a
single
hauler
will
be
made
by
the
inglewood
city
council,
not
by
this
committee.
So
we
are
a
group
of
citizens
here
to
serve
our
city
and
to
provide
guidance
to
the
decision
makers
in
the
city
regarding
a
single
hauler
of
trash.
D
A
D
Okay,
I
apologize
for
not
being
in
one
of
the
earlier
meetings.
I
didn't
know
I
was
out
of
the
country,
but
I
am
here
now
so
that
still
doesn't
answer.
The
question,
though,
and
I
know
you're
exploring,
but
if
let's
say
there
are
12
members
on
this
committee
and
three
agree,
we
disagree
and
the
rest
agrees.
That
means
citizen
voices
are
not
actually
being
held
because.
A
So
I
understand
your
objection
and
the
argument
that
you've
presented
and
once
again
I'll
say
that
the
purpose
of
this
committee
is
to
for
citizens
to
have
voices,
and
you
may
choose
to
address
those
complaints
to
counsel.
Regarding
both
communication
and
the
question
of
whether
or
not
we
actually
need
this.
D
A
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
maureen
white
and
I'm
calling
to
tell
you
my
thoughts
but
to
follow
up
on
what
the
previous
speaker
said.
I
received
five
postcards
very
nice
large
postcards
from
the
city
two
on
stormwater,
one
on
the
alley
sweeping
one
on
street
sweeping
and
one
on
the
census
that
the
city
obviously
paid.
For
so
I
agree
that
there
could
have
been
a
notice
to
go
out
at
least
one
time
to
all
the
citizens.
H
H
That
was
uneven
at
the
joints
because
he
opted
out
and
the
city
came
out
and
measured
and
told
me:
oh
that's
not
enough,
and
this
summer
I
noticed
what
they're
repairing
in
front
of
my
house,
because
I
opted
in
and
it's
a
lot
less
different
than
what
I
tripped
over.
So
I
think
that
the
city
is
seems
to
be
ignoring
the
repairs
of
the
people
who
opt
out
because
they
don't
want
to
hassle
with
forcing
them
to
get
their
sidewalks
repaired.
H
A
Thank
you
for
that
comment.
Miss
white.
The
one
thing
I'll
note
in
response
directly
to
your
comment
is
that
no
decisions
have
been
made
as
of
yet
it
is
this
committee's
purpose
to
make
recommendations
to
council,
and
we
do
appreciate
that
feedback,
because
it's
helpful
in
forming
our
recommendations
to
council.
A
A
Seeing
none,
I
will
conclude
that
portion
of
our
agenda
is
closed,
we'll
move
on
to
new
business.
So
I'd
like
to
open
this
up
briefly
with
just
some
comments.
The
primary
purpose
of
this
particular
meeting
is
administrative
in
nature.
It
was
important
for
the
committee
to
meet
and
discuss
some
ground
rules,
as
we
did
have
some
email
exchanges
that
did
not
benefit
the
committee
and
were
questionable
at
best
under
the
open
meetings
requirements.
A
So
we
will
talk
about
a
number
of
things,
communication
being
probably
the
biggest
also.
I
would
like
to
set
a
fixed
meeting
schedule,
as
I
did
receive
some
pushback
about
the
multiple
rescheduled
meetings,
and
I
think
it
would
just
be
easier
for
all
the
group
members
to
manage
attendance
if
we
did
have
a
fixed
meeting
schedule
a
set
date
and
time
that
we
could
expect
to
meet
either
monthly
or
twice
a
month.
G
G
G
All
right
so
one
yeah,
it
says,
chair
ward
mentioned,
there
are
several
topics
that
we're
going
to
cover
tonight,
those
being
primarily
communication
and
I'll.
Come
back
to
these
setting
agenda
items
and
how
that's
done,
because
we
had
some
questions
about
that,
then
establishing
a
set
meeting
date
and
or
time
expectations
for
how
and
what
staff
communicates
to
committee
members
and
finally,
our
process
for
determining
decisions
and
next
steps.
G
So
I'll
go
back.
Oh
excuse
me
and
committee
member
attendance
and
availability.
So
this
is
a
very
large
committee,
probably
one
of
the
largest
that
we
have
and
so
with
11
people.
It's
dif
somewhat
difficult
to
manage
that
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
not
been
exposed
to
this
process
before
this
is
also
be
educational,
hopefully
so.
G
First,
communication
between
committee
members
and
between
committee
members
and
staff,
so
in
as
we
talked
about
the
the
city
and
other
municipalities,
the
state,
any
kind
of
governmental
agency
within
colorado,
is
subject
to
the
colorado,
open
meetings,
and
so
the
purpose
of
that
is
really
to
limit
decision-making
outside
of
this
type
of
forum,
where
everybody's
present
or
the
majority
are
present.
A
quorum
is
present
to
discuss
the
item.
G
So
we
want
to
get
away
from
that
and
really
stick
to
making
sure
that
our
discussion
items
are
take
place
at
a
formal
meeting
and
that
the
they're
added
to
the
agenda
in
advance.
So
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
committee
members,
can't
email
questions
back
to
staff
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
do
want
to
be
careful
about
when
we're,
including
everybody
in
that
process,
then
setting
agenda
items.
So
we
want
again
to
be
upfront
about
that
staff.
G
Now
that
we've
established
a
chairperson
and
a
vice
chair,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
staff
is
consulting
with
them
and
preparing
the
agenda
and
the
supporting
materials
in
advance
of
that.
So
we
do
receive
the
chair's
approval
of
the
agenda
before
we
actually
put
it
up
on
the
website,
and
so,
if
you're
interested
in
adding
agenda
items
committee
members
should
contact
the
chair,
in
this
case
steve
with
those
agenda
items
and
at
least
probably
usually
about
a
week
or
so
in
advance
that
we're
trying
to
finalize
that.
G
G
But
then,
once
an
agenda
is
created
and
that's
published
on
the
website,
it
must
be
formally
amended
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
to
either
add
or
remove
action
items.
So,
for
example,
tonight,
while
we
can
certainly
talk
about
new
things,
we
can't
actually
take
formal
action
on
an
item
tonight,
unless
you
were
to
amend
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
establishing
a
set
meeting
date
and
time
you
know
when
we,
when
we
initially
started,
we
were
anticipating,
maybe
three
or
four
meetings.
G
Obviously
that's
it's
taken
a
little
bit
longer
than
that
for
us
to
come
together,
which
is
perfectly
fine,
but
I
think
again,
just
to
the
finding
time
where
11
people
can
make
themselves
available
is
been
a
challenge,
so
perhaps
establishing
a
set
meeting
date
and
time
if
it's
earlier
or
later.
We
can
certainly
do
that
and
hopefully
then
get
the
majority
of
members
to
be
able
to
attend
that.
G
Then
expectations
for
communication
with
staff,
again
staff
provides
a
variety
of
professional
assistance
and
administrative
functions,
so
we're
doing
other
things
besides
just
providing
this
and
what
we
try
and
do
are
supporting
this
committee.
So
we
also
try
and
use
judgment
to
determine
what
items
should
be
communicated
to
the
rest
of
the
committee.
While
we
can
certainly
take
feedback
from
committee
members
and
try
and
disseminate
as
much
information
as
possible
again,
I
think
that
it
would
be
good
to
put
things
on
the
agenda
just
even
as
informational
items,
so
that's
shared
with
everybody.
G
G
When
we
have
a
formal
action
item,
she'll
call
each
of
your
names
and
then
you'll
get
to
vote
one
way
or
the
other
either
yes
or
no
we're
trying
to
avoid
just
because
on
zoom
it's
hard
to
tell
sometimes,
if
you
say,
yay
or
nay,
so
we're
trying
to
say
yes
or
no
just
to
be
clear
about
that.
But
then
it's
the
majority
vote
of
the
people
who
are
there
actually
make
the
determination
of
whether
that
decision
goes
forward
or
not.
G
G
We
do
take
minutes
at
the
meetings,
and
so
you
voted
on
the
meetings
for
last
meeting
when
we
have
voted
or
we
had
voted
for
the
chair
and
vice
chair
and
those
action
minutes
are
really
decision
only
so
they're
fairly
limited.
If
you
do
want
to
go
back
to
the
conversations
it'd
be
best
to
go
back
and
review
the
tapes,
the
video
videotapes
again,
if
you
want
to
talk
to
the
specifics.
G
And
then
finally,
committee
member
attendance
and
availability,
I
know
we've
had
some
discussion
about.
You
know
trying
to
get
all
members
to
attend.
Well,
we
can
certainly
do
that
again.
It
has
been
a
challenge
and
for
this
particular
committee,
where
it's
it's
short-lived,
it's
not
ongoing.
There
is
no
requirement
that
people
would
have
to
attend
a
certain
number
of
meetings,
but
certainly
we
want
to
get
as
many
people
as
possible.
G
A
C
C
I'll
just
go,
then:
how
about
it?
I
guess
what
is
in
regard
to
like
the
dissemination
of
information
and
having
us
all
be
aware
of.
What's
asked
and
what's
discussed
is:
is
there
an
objection
by
staff
or
liaisons
of
just
any
of
it,
sending
it
out
to
all
of
us
on
email?
Is
there
a
reason
that
we
can't
just
have
all
discussion
between
us
be
made
public
and
transparent
among
all
of
us.
G
A
C
I'm
not
just
suggesting
that
we
all
do
open
meeting
email
reply.
All
discussions,
that's
not
what
I'm
asking
about!
What
I'm
asking
about
is
any
communication
between
any
committee
member
and
staff
be
disseminated
by
staff
as
an
informative
thing
to
send
out
to
all
of
us.
So
we
know
what
all
the
discussions
that
are
going
on
are.
G
G
F
I
just
put
in
my
two
cents.
I
think
we
should
absolutely
avoid
discussion
of
issues
via
email,
because
that
has
all
sorts
of
open
meetings
problems
and
can
cause
other
issues.
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
questions
being
directed
to
either
the
chair
or
staff.
It
might
make
more
sense
to
filter
through
the
chair,
who
can
then
disseminate
how
it's
handled,
but
if
there
are
questions
that
come
up
in
between
meetings,
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
approach.
F
Yes,
hopefully
it
would
be.
You
know
within
reason,
as
far
as
how
many
questions
are
being
sent
in
between
meetings,
I
think
the
majority
of
what
we
should
be
discussing
should
happen
in
these
meetings,
but
there's
certainly
reasonable
circumstances
where
questions
can
come
up
that
might
inform
the
next
meeting.
If
an
answer
can
be
disseminated
to
the
group
before
before
that
happens,
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
that.
E
Well,
we'll
have
opinions
but
we'll
talk
about
those
opinions
in
these
meetings
and
we
can,
as
we
send
issues
or
questions.
I
I'd
say
as
a
group.
We
direct
them
to
steve
and
if
it
needs
to
go
to
maria,
he
can
handle
that
for
us
and
then
that
email
or
question
is
then
set
up
in.
If
it's
set
in
time.
For
as
an
agenda
item
for
discussion
and
our
opinions,
does
that
kind
of
sound
like
where
everybody's
on
board.
A
That's
fair.
I
would
make
one
request
based
on
that
which
would
be
to
copy
staff
on
any
of
those
requests
that
go
to
me
already
on
the
email,
so
that
then,
if
I'm
the
one
making
the
decision
as
to
what
goes
out
or
what
goes
on
the
agenda,
I
can
have
a
well-informed
discussion
with
staff
on
that
save
the
step
of
distributing
it
out
myself.
E
A
C
J
C
J
J
I
J
J
J
A
J
G
G
Okay,
so
I
think
your
question
carson
was
the
communication
between
staff
and
and
the
two.
There
are
two
proposal:
submittals
the
the
staff
from
those
particular
companies-
that's
typically
not
done,
but
if
you
want
to
see
that
again,
it's
open
records,
so
we
could
certainly
provide
it
again.
That's
just
not
typical,
but
no
problem.
If
you
wanted
to
do
that,
if
the
group
wanted
to
do.
C
I
A
F
Oops,
I
didn't
know
how
to
unraise.
That
was
from
my
last
comment,
but
yeah.
I
guess
my
question
is
that
just
came
to
mind
is
how
how
much
communication
is
happening
between
staff
if
any
and
the
haulers
I
understand
there
has
to
be
some
logistical
in
setting
up
the
meetings
where
we
wanted
to
meet
with
each
trash
hauler.
But
my
understanding
was
there
was
an
initial
meeting
which,
with
each
potential
hauler
some
of
some
of
whom
didn't
even
submit
an
rfp.
F
G
F
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
reasonable
to
share
there.
There
certainly
seems
from
some
of
the
public
comments
and
some
of
the
prior
meetings,
this
fair
or
not,
accusation
of
of
you
know
back
room
dealing
or
kickbacks
or
whatever
it
may
be,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
limit
any
communications
there
and
just
make
sure
that
everything's
as
transparent
as
possible,
I
think,
is
in
everybody's
best
interest.
G
C
A
So
I
certainly
understand
that
marcy
and
I
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
you,
but
when
we
opened
this
meeting,
we
stated
that
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
was
to
discuss
administrative
issues.
Primarily,
we
need
to
agree
on
communication
standards.
We
need
to
agree
on
when
and
how
we
meet
okay,
among
other
things.
So
that
particular
comment
is
not
administrative
in
nature.
A
So
let
me
just
state
in
a
nutshell
what
I
think
we
just
finished
concluding
if
there
are
questions
from
committee
members,
those
questions
and
can
be
sent
to
me
with
staff
copied
and
then
I
as
chair
will
make
a
determination,
I'd
like
to
include
vice
chair
green
on
these
communications
as
well.
If
the
committee
doesn't
have
an
objection,
two
of
us
chair
and
vice
chair,
not
a
quorum,
so
we
should
be
able
to
communicate
back
and
forth
on
that
with
staff.
A
C
Go
ahead,
not
an
objection
to
that.
Just
another
thought
on
transparency.
I
I
agree
with
everything
you
just
said.
That
seems
great
one
thing
I
noticed
like,
as
we've
had
the
difficulty
of
getting
the
meetings
scheduled
with
everyone,
like
ms
fenton
was
sending
out
the
doodle
and,
like
the
first
time
she
sent
it
out,
we
could
all
see
you
know
everybody's
answers
and
then
and
then
the
second
time
we
couldn't.
C
I
don't
know
if
that
was
an
intentional
change
in
the
settings
to
make
that
less
transparent,
but
I
just
again
I'm
just
going
to
always
argue
for
airing
on
the
side
of
transparency.
I
don't
know
why
we
would
not
all
be
able
to
see
who
can
and
can't
attend
on
different
days
like
we
were
on
the
first
attempt
to
schedule
a
time
where
we
could
all
come.
I
mean
I'm
always
going
to
be
in
favor
of
you
know.
C
I
A
A
E
If
we
do
it
on
a
regular
night
too
well
that
helps
set
expectations
for
any
public
comment.
They
can
expect
the
same
night
similar
to
the
other
committee
meetings.
So
I'm
really
really
super
open
too,
but,
like
I
suggested
it
looks
like
everybody,
we
had
a
lot
of
attendees
tonight,
so
I'm
just
gonna
propose
it's
monday
night
and
it's
the
second
monday
of
the
month.
A
G
Yes,
that
was
going
to
be
my
comment,
not
so
much
concern
for
staff.
I
can
manage
my
schedule
and
have
other
people
cover
that.
But
if
there
is
a
desire
by
the
city
council
to
or
somebody
who
might
want
to
go
to
the
city
council
meeting
or
attend
that
and
possibly
sit
in
on
our
meeting,
then
there
would
be
a
conflict.
So
in
general
we
try
and
avoid
monday
nights
with
our
board
and
commission
meetings
in
general.
I
K
I
E
C
C
Thing
just
as
difficult
as
it
has
been
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
meet
when
we've
been
trying,
I
and
and
just
in
general,
I
feel
like
twice
a
month
is
pretty
aggressive.
I
mean
I
get
it
if
we
have
like
something
specific
timing,
wise
to
add
a
second,
but
I
feel
like
scheduling
twice
a
month
consistently,
and
it
feels
like
a
lot
to
me
and
I'm
available.
Basically
any
nights,
preferably
not
fridays,.
I
L
E
A
E
E
A
A
B
J
E
C
C
F
It's
also
usually
only
an
hour,
long
or
so,
or
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
than
that,
which
I
don't
know
we're
going
to
be
able
to
start
and
finish
our
meetings.
In
that
time
I
mean,
I
guess
my
question
is
how
many
more
meetings
do.
We
think
we
need
to
get
through
all
the
rfps
and
come
together
to
make
some
sort
of
recommendation
to
counsel
or
request
more
information
from
haulers.
F
E
You
know
that
that's
really
hard
to
say,
because
we
haven't
had
as
many
discussions
as
we
need
to
have.
I
don't
think-
and
I
think
that's
you
know
what
we're
leading
up
to
once.
We
get
these
ground
rules
done.
I
I
don't
see
us
going
spending
a
lot
of
times
into
time
into
the
holiday.
You
know
and
those
are
coming
up.
I
think
we'll
find
too
that
people
start
to
get
very
busy
at
the
holiday
and
we
may
have
to.
E
A
B
I
J
J
J
So
if
we
need
to
take
more
time-
and
I
also
believe
that
the
council
should
be
back
before
we
make
any
suggestions
or
whatever
we
end
up-
you
know
all
whether
we
come
to
an
agreement
or
not
of
all
of
us.
I
think
city
council
needs
to
get
back
to
city
hall,
so
people
the
citizens
can
understand
what
is
going
on
here
and,
I
believe
totally
in
transparency.
A
E
J
G
We
can
certainly
look
into
that
laureen.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
off
the
top
of
your
head.
If
you've
done
a
google
pull
like
that,
the
other
thing
we
could
do
to
get
around.
That
is
just
you
know
like
give
people
options
like
monday
through
friday
of
a
particular
week,
and
then
it's
not
for
that
day,
but
just
in
general,
can
you
do
mondays?
Can
you
do
tuesdays
wednesdays?
That
sort
of
thing,
and
we
could
explain
that
in
the
poll
as
it
goes
out.
A
L
I
Yeah
as
to
the
frequency
of
of
how
often
we
meet,
I
also
agree
that
it's
not
something
that
should
be
rushed.
We
shouldn't
make
a
rash
recommendation,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
a
lot
of
what
we
have
to
talk
about.
We
could
talk
about
every
other
week
as
opposed
to
monthly
and
still
have
almost
the
same
conversations.
In
other
words,
we
just
have
a
lot
of
information.
We
have
to
go
through.
I
B
I
A
So
I
would
like
to
address
this
question
of
once
a
month
or
twice
a
month
here
pretty
quickly.
The
first
question
before
I
do,
that
is:
does
everybody
have
access
to
and
know
how
to
use
the
raise
hand
function,
because
I
think
the
most
organized
way
to
do
this
is
to
just
have
each
person
once
a
month
raise
their
hand
or
twice
a
month
raise
their
hand,
and
then
I
will
call
off
the
names
of
the
people
as
if
I
was
taking
role.
E
A
Right
so
not
everybody's
on
camera,
and
rather
than
have
everybody
try
to
speak
ir
or
nay,
yes
or
no.
What
I'll
ask
is,
if
you
are
advocating
for
a
one
day
per
week
meeting
one
day
or
excuse
me
one
day
per
month
rather
than
bi-weekly
meetings,
if
you
would
just
raise
your
hand
now,
as
in
favor
of
that
opinion,
I
will
call
off
the
names
as
they
are
raised.
So.
A
A
A
E
A
J
A
A
A
So
we'll
sort
out
the
agenda.
The
way
we
discussed
previously
suggested
agenda
items
can
go
to
the
chair
and
vice
chair
and
then
roughly
a
week
before
the
meeting
I'd
like
to
get
the
agenda
out
so
that
everybody
knows
what
we
will
be
discussing
at
the
following
meeting.
I
see
maria
has
her
hand
raised
maria
did
you
have
something
to
add.
G
Just
that
night
I
do
have
an
agenda
item
already
on
the
26th,
so
I'll
probably
have
to
be
absent
from
this
meeting
for
about
15
minutes
15
20
minutes,
so
I
just
will
be
late,
but
we'll
kick
off
the
meeting
with
lorraine
and
if
you
can
just
know
the
staff
won't
be
available
for
that.
First
little
bit.
E
A
C
A
I
I
I
I
A
C
Well,
I
guess
I'll
continue
with
topics
for
the
list
to
be
prioritized
the
she
already
mentioned
admin
fees.
I
mean
we're
going
to
need
to
know
what
the
city's
thinking
admin
fee
was
before.
We
can
even
evaluate
it
for
making
our
own
recommendations
as
well
and
then
the
the
penalties
you
know
it
had
been
brought
up
early
on
that
at
least
I
brought
it
up
and
see
some
people
seem
to
like
the
idea
that
penalties
should
potentially
go
to
citizens
in
some
cases.
C
There's
some
of
the
questions
that
I
had
included
in
the
list
of
questions
to
go
to
the
providers
that
didn't
get
to
them
and
I'm
curious.
If
we
can
do
another
round
of
that,
because
even
before
necessarily
having
our
interview
with
them
directly,
there
could
be
more
questions
to
get
answers
to,
and
part
of
that
was
because
ms
fenton
wasn't
sure
how
to
break
up
some
of
the
questions.
So
you
guys
can
see
them
all
there.
C
I
had
questions
on
that
are
on
the
far
right
tab
of
the
excel
sheet
that
went
out
and
under
questions
answers,
but
some
of
them
didn't
get
to
the
the
trash
companies.
One
big
one
I
was
real
curious
about
is
the
actual
percentage
of
what
goes
through.
The
recycling
actually
gets
recycled,
because
I
know
that
a
huge
amount
of
recycled
materials
that
used
to
go
to
china
are
now
rejected
and
there's
I've.
C
You
know
customer
communications,
but
I
feel
like
it
should
be
an
improvement
in
service
to
the
way
people
deal
with
this,
that,
if
someone's
reporting
like
a
missed,
pickup
or
a
problem,
etc
that
they
should
not
have
to
wait
on
a
phone
line
or
wait
for
a
chat
person
to
come
up,
they
should
be
able
to
fill
out
a
form
and
hit
send
and
it
becomes
the
responsibility
of
the
provider
to
respond
to
that
when
they
get
to
it.
You
shouldn't
have
to
sit
on
a
like.
E
I
too
really
don't
want
to
press
on
with
this
proposal
without
seeing
what
the
actual
contract
looks
like
and
what
obligations
that
they
have
to
fill
with
service
assurance.
That's
one
and
two:
I
want
to
discuss
options
for
getting
a
better
price
point
with
both
these
with
any
carrier,
because
I'm
I
don't,
I
think,
there's
other
ways
to
do
it.
So
that's
what,
anyway,
you
have
those
two
topics.
That's
what
I
would
like
to
discuss.
I
A
F
Not
necessarily
a
specific
agenda
item,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
last
meeting
we
discussed
actually
sitting
down
and
meeting
with
these
haulers,
so
we
could
have
an
open
discussion
which
I
think
there's
some
definite
value
to
and
is
perhaps
more
efficient
than
written
questions
back
and
forth,
although
it's
definitely
nice
to
hold
them
to
something
in
writing
too.
Is
that
still
our
intent?
Are
we
planning
to
have
another
additional
administrative
or
meeting
to
discuss
proposal
items
in
general
before
diving
into
that?
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
the
way
forward
here.
A
G
F
A
J
J
A
G
A
K
A
So
the
overall
notification
requirement
is
24
hours
to
notice
a
public
meeting
in
in
the
law,
but
I
I
prefer
a
one-week
timeline
if,
if
that's
not
too
ambitious
for
staff,
would
that
work?
Okay,
maria?
I
know
we
did.
I
think
six
days
this
time
and
that
seemed
to
work.
Okay,
but
seven
would
be
ideal.
A
No,
if
I,
if
I
heard
correctly,
we're
gonna
shoot
for
seven
days,
but
the
timeline
may
be
more
like
six
or
five
before
the
meeting.
But
there
will
definitely
be
an
agenda
released
before
the
meeting
and
since
the
meeting
is
planned
to
be
on
a
monday.
That
would
have
to
happen
on
friday
under
the
law,
because
the
notice
has
to
be
24
hours
ahead
of
the
meeting.
J
A
Later,
I
think
we
can
certainly
discuss
it
and
you're
the
third
member,
if
my
account
is
correct
to
bring
up
that
topic.
I
I
concur.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
some
information
regarding
what
exactly
would
be
planned
for
that.
But
again,
the
purpose
of
the
committee
is
to
make
recommendations
so,
to
the
extent
we
would
be
talking
about
any
specific
plan
at
our
next
meeting.
J
G
E
A
E
F
A
C
Code
enforcement's
two
hours
fixed
time.
I
agree
with
remember
frazier
about
fixed
time.
I
think
two
hours
is
pretty
reasonable,
especially
when
you're
digging
into
complicated
stuff.
I
I
think
in
hours
too
short
hour
and
a
half,
I
think
we'd
be
coming
up
against
it
in
the
mid
middle
of
discussion,
whereas
I
think
I
feel
like
two
hours
is
pretty
reasonable
for
everyone's
attention
to
be
able
to
be
focused
on
it.
A
A
So,
at
the
risk
of
be
laboring,
it
I'll
just
run
down
what
I
wrote
down
here
and
if
I
miss
anything,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand.
Administrative
fee,
opt-out,
fee
question
of
whether
this
should
be
a
ballot
measure
or
a
council
decision,
recycling
included
in
the
base
fee
or
not
large
item
pickup
compost
and
a
price
comparison
of
the
proposals,
penalty
provisions
or
contract
enforcement.
A
Customer
service
pricing
and
a
negotiation
of
the
prices
which
is
similar
to,
but
not
the
same
as
the
price
comparison
portion
time
for
an
open
discussion
with
hollers,
which
I
believe
we
agreed
will
be
our
not
our
next
meeting
but
the
one
following
that
and
a
meeting
time
length
we
agreed
on
for
two
hours
and
carson.
I
see
your
hand
raised.
C
Yeah
one
more
of
my
questions
that
didn't
get
asked
was
around
the
yard
waste,
whether
like
because
in
the
proposals
at
least
one
of
them,
it
was
that
you'd
have
to
schedule
for
yard
waste,
and
I
was
curious
if
that
is
actually
going
to
the
environmentally
appropriate
destination
or
not
so,
and
I
had
broken
out
like
several
questions
around
yard
waste.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
get
the
appropriate
details
laid
out
to
find
out
the
answers
to
that
as
part
of
it
too.
A
I
I
G
Sorry,
we
can
certainly
send
any
additional
questions
out
ahead
of
time,
or
you
know
have
our
discussion.
Let's
just
assume
monday's
work.
Our
next
meeting
would
then
be
tentatively
november,
9th
monday
november
9th.
So
I
we
could
summarize
all
additional
questions
on
the
night
of
our
meeting
on
the
october
26th.
A
C
A
I
Thanks
a
few
of
those
items
on
our
agenda
list,
maybe
could
be
grouped
together,
even
though
they're
not
exactly
the
same
thing
they
could
be
put
next
to
each
other,
such
as
the
recycling
percentage
and
the
the
broader
recycling
discussion,
and
maybe
the
price
comparisons
and
the
price
negotiation
points
some
things
like
that:
possibly
yard
waste
and
compost.
Even
those
those
are,
are
separate.
But
there's
some
items
like
that
that
we
kind
of
group
together.
A
Yeah,
I
think
we'll
work
that
out
when
we
work
through
the
agenda
carson
and
I
work
through
the
agenda
staff,
but
yeah
I'd
like
to
do
those
sort
of
large
neighborhood
type
things
like
administrative
fees
and
customer
service
standards,
all
kind
of
fit
in
the
general
sort
of
city
administered
perspective.
So
we
can
talk
about
those
things
and
then
you
know
some
of
the
more
detailed
items
on
how
waste
is
handled.
We
would
put
under
another.
B
A
A
E
That
would
require
another
bid,
but
keep
in
mind
you
can
do
various
bids.
At
the
same
time,
often,
I
put
out
a
bid
that'll
be
for
five
years,
but
then
I
also
put
the
same
exact
bit
out
for
seven
ten,
sometimes
even
twenty
years,
just
to
see
what
kind
of
pricing
they'll
give
me
based
on
these
long
term
numbers.
E
A
C
A
new
one
yeah
one
other
thing
I
noticed
when
I
was
going
through,
I
mean
I
know
that
we'll
end
up
discussing
their
questions,
but
just
something
I
noticed
and
to
put
it
out
there
was.
I
think
it
was
waste
management's
response
about.
Why
was
there?
I
know
we're
gonna
talk
about
fees
and
stuff,
but
just
so
that
everyone's
aware
of
this,
they
mentioned
that
their
fee
was
higher
because
then
waste
services,
who's
selling-
you
know
waste
management's
so.
H
C
Services
is
that
company
that
I
switched
to
that.
I
sent
you
guys
the
invoice
for
that
is
actually
charging
21
a
month
for
everything,
including
yard
waste
anytime.
You
put
it
out,
but
they
said
that
they
are
able
to
charge
less
because
they're
covering
you
know:
door-to-door
outreach,
sales,
customer
service
and
billing,
and
under
you
know
this
proposal,
some
of
those
things
won't
exist.
There's
no
need
to
do
outreach
and
sales
and
the
city's
doing
billing.
I
I
think
that
they
were
charging
less
in
the
bid.
They
were
charging
18,
something
as
opposed
to
21
something.
But
what
we're
missing
in
the
equation
is
the
tipping
fees
plus
the
administrative
fees.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
an
apple
stopless
comparison
until
we
get
a
ballpark
or
a
range
of
what
the
tipping
fee
might
be
and
what
the
administrative
fee
might
be,
but
just
on
the
surface,
their
initial
bid
was
slower
by
a
couple
bucks.
I
J
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
maybe
this
is
too
much
for
next
time
we
meet,
but
I
would
also
like
to
ask
is
why
for
seniors
or
disabled
people,
why
there
is
no
discount-
and
maybe
that's
just
too
much
for
the
next
meeting.
But
people
have
been
asking
me
that
because
they
can
get,
you
know
these
discounts
from
other
other
trash
haulers,
so
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there.
J
It
may
be
too
much
like
I
said,
for
the
next
meeting,
but
you
know
every
dollar
counts
to
a
lot
of
people
in
this
city,
especially
when
you're
on
a
fixed
income.
So
I
was
just
curious
as
to
why
they
won't
do
anything
like
that
and
then,
apparently,
if
you
are
disabled
and
they
have
to
come
up
to
your
doorstep
or
you
know,
take
your
hauler
down
it's
a
fee-
I
I
guess
I
don't
understand
why
there's
a
fee
for
that
when
you
physically
cannot
do
that
and
why
there
is
no
senior
discount.
J
I
I
I
We
also
saw
that
for
people
that
just
want
their
trash
cans
returned
to
their
door
garage
as
a
luxury,
so
they're
not
physically
disabled,
but
they
want
that
as
a
convenience,
then
they
charged,
if
I
remember,
right,
15
for
waste
management
and
10
for
a
republic
in
the
bids,
but
waste
management,
if
you
just
call
if
you're,
just
a
current
customer
now
how
things
are
now
are
just
35
dollars
for
that,
so
they
went
down
20
dollars
and
again
those
numbers
are
off
the
top
of
my
head.
So
I'm
sorry
if
they're
wrong.
J
J
I
know
they
do
in
centennial.
So
I
don't
know
why
they
would
not
do
that
in
inglewood
and
maybe
I'm
misinformed,
but
I
thought
that
if,
if
you
were
disabled
that
they
were
still
going
to
charge
you
a
fee,
so
maybe
I
was
misinformed
on
that.
But
I
know
the
waste
services
do
not
offer
discounts
that
I
do
know,
but
I
have
spoken
to
people
who
have
republic
and
they
can
make
deals
with
them.
C
I
was
just
gonna
add
response
to
the
details
of
marcy's
request
and
what
christine
said.
Waste
management
on
their
response
to
the
answers
said
that
currently,
if
you
have
direct
waste
management
and
you're
physically
disabled,
they
do
not
charge
a
fee
for
the
valet
service,
but
they
do
charge
35
if
you're
opting
into
it
without
a
physical
need,
and
I
couldn't
find
anything
about
republic
responding
to
having
that
as
a
free
thing
for
disabled.
So
I
may
be
missing
that,
but
I
don't
see
any
response.
Any
detail
on.