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C
D
We
have
a
quorum
welcome
to
the
monday
march
16th
meeting
of
the
evanston
city
council.
The
first
item
on
what
did
you.
D
G
Yes,
madam
mayor
members
of
council
clerk
green,
I
have
four
announcements
tonight.
The
first
announcement
is
to
introduce
kevin
lucas
from
the
city's
utilities
department
who's
going
to
talk
about
the
rollout
of
neptune
iq.
H
Good
evening,
mayor
tisdale,
alderman
clerk,
green
kevin
lucas,
water
production
superintendent
at
the
utilities
department.
We
are
excited
about
this.
This
was
part
of
the
ami
project
that
we
that
we
launched
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
where
we
replaced
all
the
ami
system.
It's
pretty
straightforward.
It's
a
way
for
you
to
monitor
yourself
how
much
water
you
use.
H
Initially,
all
you've
got
to
do.
Whoops
we're
missing
a
slide
there
there
it
is.
The
link
is
pretty
much
advertised
in
a
lot
of
places.
Everybody's
water
bill
that
you
just
received
pretty
much
has
all
the
instructions
in
it
right
there
and
the
graph
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
go
over
for
just
a
minute
or
two
on
the
back.
It's
pretty
exciting
stuff.
H
You
just
go
to
that
website.
You
click
on
neptune,
water,
usage
management
and
then
you
do
a
short
enrollment
process.
Just
follow
the
instructions
to
set
up
the
account.
So
this
is
the
the
screen
that
you'll
see
once
you've
kind
of
logged
in.
If
you
take
a
look,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
the
red
lines
here,
but
there
are,
there
are
red
lines
which
are
kind
of
your
water
budget,
in
other
words,
kind
of
your
average
usage.
H
H
The
next
line,
underneath
that
with
the
red
and
blue,
the
red,
is
the
temperature,
the
maximum
daily
temperature
and
compare
that
to
precipitation.
If
you
take
a
look,
the
month
we
have
up
here
is
is
january
and
february
and
there's
february
first
and
second,
that
was
the
big
snow,
the
super
bowl
sunday
snow.
So
you
can
see
that
the
temperature
is
based
laid
out
there,
as
is
the
precipitation
so
come
summertime
and
spring.
When
you
have
a
lot
of
water
use,
you'll
see
that
you
naturally
just
use
less
water
most
of
the
time.
H
Just
because
you
know
the
ground
is
wet,
the
soil
is
getting
enough
moisture.
Now.
What
can
you
do
with
this?
The
primary
things
that
you
can
do
are
you
can
you
can
set
up
a
leak
alarm,
so,
in
other
words,
if
you
start
using
two
three
times
more
water
than
you
normally
do
you're
going
to
get
an
email.
If
you
set
it
up
that
way
and
an
alarm
that
says
you
are
using
an
excess
amount
of
water,
you
can
also
to
dial
it
down
a
little
bit
more.
H
If
you
really
want
to
kind
of
start
tracking,
what
you
use
and
being
more
sustainable
and
more
green
is
that
you
can
set
it
up
to
where.
If
you
use
50
more
than
your
your
budget
or
75
percent
more
than
your
budget,
you
can
have
an
alarm
that
will
do
that
too.
That
will
say:
hey
you're
a
little
higher
than
normal.
It's
it's
not
reached
a
leak
phase
or
anything,
but
if
you
really
are
wanting
to
conserve
and
cut
back,
you
need
to
kind
of
watch
where
you're
at
right
now.
H
So
those
are
the
big
that
you
know
the
big
ticket
items
as
we
call
them
that
you
can
do
now
last.
I
do
want
to
caution.
Everybody
that
we
have
some
meters
left
in
town
that
only
read
to
the
100
cubic
foot
level,
so
it
only
turns
about
every
three
four
or
five
days.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
you
can't
still
see
a
leak
if
it
starts
to
turn
every
day.
You
know
you
have
a
problem,
but
we're
in
the
process
of
changing
those
out
and
as
people
call
in.
H
I
H
You
you
could,
if
you
got
their
information,
but
it's
pretty
hard.
You
have
to
have
the
account
number
and
we've
got.
We've
got
the
authenticators
so
that
you
can
really
look
at
your
own
now
some
communities
that
I've
heard
about
they
have
contests
and
stuff
that
pit.
You
know
street
versus
street
or
neighborhood
versus
neighborhood
and
who
can
consume
conserve
the
most
water.
So.
G
K
First,
I
just
wanted
to
spend
a
quick
minute
on
gases
profile
in
case
that
you
don't
know.
Nyquar
gas
is
the
largest
natural
gas
utility
in
the
state
of
illinois.
The
darker
gold
area
is
our
service
footprint.
We
effectively
cover
the
northern
third
of
the
state
of
illinois,
and
then
we
have
a
little
non-contiguous
section
of
territory.
K
K
K
K
K
Our
underground
storage
facilities
allow
us
to
supplement
winter
gas
supplies.
We
buy
gas
in
the
summer
months
when
gas
is
typically
cheaper
and
we're
able
to
supplement
our
supplies
using
storage
gas
in
the
winter
months
and
we'll
also
be
replacing
regulator,
stations,
regulators
valves
and
other
associated
facilities
that
help
to
establish
pressure
over
pressure
protection.
K
We're
prioritizing
our
projects
across
all
of
our
communities
based
on
two
things.
First,
is
distribution,
integrity
management,
it's
a
program
where
we
risk
rank
our
pipe,
and
then
we
tackle
the
the
worst
first
and
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
the
projects
that
need
to
get
done.
First
and
second,
is
coordinating
with
our
municipalities
and
communities
that
we
serve.
K
So
in
2015,
investments
will,
under
the
program,
are
expected
to
be
202
million
dollars.
This
is
more
than
double
the
work
that
we
did
on
similar
projects
in
2014.
We
spent
about
90
million
in
2014
and
in
2016,
we'll
be
spending
about
250
million
on
improvements
and
over
the
course
of
the
nine
years,
we're
expecting
about
two
billion
dollars
to
be
spent
on
system
improvements.
K
Important
to
note
that
work-
that's
not
eligible
under
investing
in
illinois
is
work.
That
is
new.
That
makes
our
system
new
for
extending
to
meet
new
business
needs
economic
expansion
and
department
of
transportation
or
public
improvement
projects
where
we
need
to
get
out
of
the
way
to
accommodate
a
state
or
municipal
project.
K
So
the
benefits
of
investing
in
illinois,
first
and
foremost
for
foremost
our
safety
and
reliability,
also
improved
customer
convenience.
Not
only
are
we
going
to
be
moving
gas
meters
from
inside
homes
and
businesses
to
outside,
but
upgrading
pressure
on
the
system
also
allows
us
to
more
easily
meet
capacity
demands
of
current
and
future
customers
in
the
city.
K
I
am
aware
of
the
city
of
evanston's
local
residence
database
and
will
share
information
with
nycor
gas's
construction
partners
so
that
they're,
aware
of
labor
resources
that
are
available
to
them
from
the
the
citizens
of
evanston.
Also,
we
can
point
these
individuals
to
nyqor
gas's
website.
It's
simply
well,
it's
aglresources.jobs.
K
It
may
be
in
the
form
of
a
letter,
a
door,
hanger
yard
side
signs,
face-to-face
visits
or
a
phone
call.
Nicor
gas
employees
and
contractors
do
have
nicor
gas
issued
badges.
So
if
there
are,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
concerned
about
scams
and
don't
trust
that
the
letter
they
get
in
the
mail
is
authentic
and
bottom
line.
K
If
one
of
the
residents
of
this
community
doesn't
feel
comfortable,
letting
a
worker
into
their
home,
then
don't
they
can
call
our
toll-free
number
and
validate
or
very
verify
that
we
are
to
be
in
their
neighborhood.
But
our
hope
is
that
our
advanced
communications
will
lend
comfort
to
customers,
and
so
that
they'll
know
that
we'll
be
working
and
there
will
be
activity
in
their
neighborhoods.
K
So
the
costs
associated
with
investing
in
illinois
upgrades
will
be
recovered
through
a
cost,
controlled
adjustment
on
customer
bills
and
the
adjustment
is
cost
control
in
that
it
cannot
exceed
four
percent
of
delivery
rates.
So
we
look
at
our
bill
at
large
as
one
third
of
that
bill
being
delivery
charges.
So
it's
about
four,
it's
four
percent
on
one
third
of
the
bill.
L
K
There
are
a
number
of
contacts.
Rod,
collins
is
the
primary
community
relations
contact
dan
kellogg
is
a
contact
as
well,
and
he's
going
to
be
speaking
really
quickly
about
the
project.
This
project
specific
work
that
we're
doing
and.
L
I
guess
I'll
ask
dave
if
our
cost,
I
ran
into
a
situation
where
a
resident
had
a
specific
complaint.
She
mentioned
it
to
whomever,
was
on
the
job,
and
then
I
reached
out
to
our
city
staff.
So
is
that
information
available
to
residents
or
should
they
just
contact
3-1-1
in
the
event
that
they
have
a
complaint
or.
K
M
Okay,
well,
I
guess:
go
ahead,
alderman
holmes!
My
question
would
be:
are
you
in
contact
with
our
utility
department,
because
our
residents
will
be
much
more
comfortable
and
much
more
reassured
if,
for
instance,
you
say
you're
going
to
send
out
letters
or
door
hangers
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
we
have
our
e-news
that
kind
of
thing
that
could
be
sent
out
from
our
own
city
that
would
make
the
residents,
I
think,
feel
much
more
comfortable.
So
do
you
plan
to
have
that
kind
of
connection
with
our
utility?
Yes,.
N
Yes,
we
coordinate
very
closely
with
nicor.
They
do
send
the
newsletters
into
evanston
first
for
review.
I
then
send
it
on
to
the
aldermen
and
we
get
it
posted
on
the
website
as
well.
So
we
are
following
that
procedure.
Okay,.
I
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
anything
you've
done,
but
you
need
to
know
the
history
and
also
some
current
activities
in
evanston
with
electricity.
We
have
all
sorts
of
scams
operating
right
now
and
they
are
door-to-door.
They're
phone
calls.
People.
People
are
being
told
that
if
they
don't
let
them
in
and
see
their
bill,
then
all
sorts
of
things
their
electricity
is
going
to.
They
owe
money.
They
don't
owe
money.
D
K
I
K
Our
advanced
communications
will
help
the
customers
understand
that
we're
going
to
be
in
their
neighborhood
needing
to
do
work.
Thank
you.
We
share
that
concern,
but
I
do
want
to
spend
one
more
minute
talking
about
the
new
line
item
on
customers
bills
because
it
did
start
in
march
on
the
march
bills.
As
we
ramp
up
the
program,
our
investments
aren't
significant.
So
nor
is
the
the
line
item
on
customer
bills.
K
K
All
customers
will
be
receiving
the
line
item,
not
just
customers
in
the
communities
in
which
we're
doing
work
and
when
the,
when
the
program's
going
at
full
capacity
and
we're
investing
the
202
million
dollars
this
year.
We
believe
that
the
average
residential
customer
will
experience
on
average
throughout
the
year
about
less
than
a
dollar.
So,
in
the
winter
months,
when
you're
using
more
gas,
it
may
be,
it
may
be
a
dollar,
but
in
the
summer
months,
when
you're
using
less
gas,
it
may
be
30
cents.
What
that
line
item
charge
would
look
like.
K
K
K
Now
dan
will
come
up.
This
is
dan
kellogg
and
his
boots
on
the
ground
in
the
area
and
he'll
talk
about
the
projects
that
we
completed
in
14,
as
well
as
what
we're
doing.
15,
16
and
17.
L
You,
madam,
it's
just
a
follow-up
and
I
would
love
to
get
a
copy
of
that.
Maybe
I'm
the
only
one
who
I
have
some
work
going
on
in
my
neighborhood,
some
of
my
neighborhoods
right
now
and
unfortunately
the
residents,
I
don't
think
they're
making
the
distinction
between
nicor
and
the
city,
so
the
email
that
was
shared
with
me
was
that
the
city
is
doing
work
in
front
of
my
house.
I
tried
to
get
the
city
to
provide
a.
L
I
think
there
must
be
a
wooden
surface,
that
you're
putting
just
planks
of
wood,
that
you're
putting
over
the
sidewalks
and
in
that
particular
resident,
it's
a
town
home
and
it
stretches
across
all
the
properties.
And
so
she
has
a
mother
who's.
A
senior-
and
you
know,
has
multiple
medical
appointments
throughout
the
week
and
she's
calling
the
city
of
evanston
thinking
that
it's
our
project.
So
I
think
a
little
bit
of
more
work
needs
to
be
done
to
to
let
residents
so
particularly
seniors.
L
O
I
do
know
that
resident
1321
we've
made
contact
with
their
daughter,
their
son
and
she
was
in
the
hospital,
so
current
situation
has
been
addressed
with
the
boards
and
put
down
more
stable
cover
for
the
whole
so
good
evening.
Good
evening,
marriage
is
the
alderman
and
city
clerk.
O
O
B
B
D
O
Is
another
another
big
construction
improvement
due
to
the
investing
in
illinois
and
that
involves
10
miles
in
maine,
with
1500
about
1600
services
being
replaced
and
14
miles
of
maine
being
retired,
currently
alderman
bryce
white?
We
are
in
your
neighborhood,
I
believe,
right
in
the
middle
of
dempster,
119,
608
and
119617.
O
And
that
is
also
in
conjunction
with
the
city,
getting
ahead
on
dempster
for
idot
and
also
for
the
city's
water
main
improvement
project
that
will
be
going
on
there.
So
we're
trying
to
get
our
work
done
ahead
of
time.
So
we're
not
coming
back
and
disturbing
newly
resurfaced,
roads
and
water
main
2015.
go
back
2015.
O
We
will
then
be
going
to
the
next
bigger
area,
which
is
one
one,
nine
five
one
four,
I
don't
alderman
rainey
said
that's
yeah,
that's
from
asbury
to
dodge
and
main
street
to
main
street,
to
oakton,
okay,
okay
and
then
probably
the
same
with
119
497,
which
is
east
of
asbury.
Yes,.
M
J
J
J
O
O
Okay,
so
2016
is
about
10
miles,
maine
to
retired.
Our
engineers
have
not
pinpointed
the
exact
footage
we'll
be
installing
or
the
meters
that
will
be
impacted,
but,
as
you
can
see
towards
the
south,
that
hits
on
the
last
remaining
part,
almost
the
last
main
part
of
downtown
evanston,
whereas
in
2014
we
completed
all
the
everything
east
of
chicago
the
downtown
area
and
along
with
residential,
so
that's
going
to
be
another
major
impacted
area
and
then
up
towards
middle
of
evanston
on
the
north.
O
Okay
17
is
our
final.
Push
about
10
and
10.7
miles
in
maine
will
be
retired
and
alderman
tendum.
That's
the
area.
You
were
that's
the
remaining
area,
that's
isabella
and
down
to
golf
road,
golf
road
and
off
road,
and
that
will
be
our
final
as
then
push
to
get
completed
with
our
low
pressure
gas
made
in
the
area
for
tom.
O
I
welcome
questions.
That's
what
I
was
hoping
to
get
into
some
questions
that
you
might
have.
J
Do
have
one
one
one
of
the
biggest
not
biggest
issues,
but
an
issue
that
comes
up
quite
frequently
is
that
people
smell
the
whatever
the
additive.
I
think
people
don't
know
if
it's
gas
or
an
additive,
but
I
think
it's
somewhat
alarming
because
it
sometimes
it
does
build
and
it
does
have
a
strong
presence.
But
of
course
our
fire
department
comes
out
immediately
secures
the
area,
but
you
know
when
we
finally
do
get
a
reply
from
from
nikor.
J
They
say:
well,
it's
not
a
on
a
one
one
to
five
scale
is
it's:
it's
not
really
up
there
with
the
worst.
It's
kind
of
low
priority,
we'll
fix
it
within
six
weeks.
So
I
think
it
people
don't
understand
quite
the
correlation
between
the
the
odor
and
the
amount
of
gas
plus.
What
really
constitutes
an
emergency,
because
I
think
we
all
get
somewhat
alarmed
when
we
smoke
smoke.
Gas.
J
J
O
Maybe,
with
margie
we
can
work
on
getting
an
insert
into
the
bills
about
different
types
of
situations
that
residents
can
come
across
sure
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
our
system
vaults
out
there
that
make
a
lot
of
noise,
because
you're
feeding
a
whole
town
through
a
vault.
That's
bringing
high
pressure
down
to
regular
pressure
and
in
the
wintertime
that
is
loud
and
it's
humming,
because
it's
feeding,
night
oops
or
is
feeding
all
of
evanston.
I
Well,
the
problem
with
smelling
the
additive
is
it's
put
in
there
so
that
we
know
that
yes,
there's
gas
present
because
it
has
no
odor.
So
I
think
there's
reason
for
alarm
when
you
smell
it
and
I
think
to
it's
been
poo
pooed
to
me
as
well.
I
I
had
a
couple
of
cases
in
my
ward,
but
I
mean
how
how
do
you
rank
it
unless
you
come
out
and
check
it.
O
K
Also,
if
repeated
calls,
I
mean
if
it's
a
nuisance
and
and
even
though
we
feel
confident
that
our
ranking
of
the
of
the
the
leak
is,
you
know,
doesn't
warrant
immediate
attention.
Several
calls,
or
a
call
you
know
to
us-
will
prompt
the
replacement
sooner.
O
We
have
crews
that
get
called
out.
We
have
crews
that
are
on
shift
to
respond
to
certain
priorities
of
a
leak
or
any
other
type
of
emergency,
such
as
a
contractor
hitting
our
gas
lines
and
things
of
that
such
and
freeze-ups.
During
the
winter,
we
always
have
basically
do
have
24-hour
coverage
with
a
supervisor
managers.
B
G
Shall
I
continue
madame
mayor
go
right
ahead.
Next,
we
have
david
van
borne
on
the
executive
director
of
the
solid
waste
agency
of
northern
cook,
county
or
swank.
As
we
know
it,
mr
van
borne
is
going
to
give
a
short
presentation
about
the
2015
swank
budget.
This
came
about
as
a
previous
discussion
at
council
to
have
swank
come
in
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
where
we're
at
with
them.
Mr
van
gorn.
P
Thank
you
manager,
lyons
mayor,
tisdale
alderman,
it's
my
pleasure
to
be
here.
My
name
is
dave
van
vorn.
I'd
also
like
to
at
least
thank
susette
robinson
for
asking
me
to
come
out
to
provide
some
information
on
the
on
swank.
I
was
here
about
two
years
ago.
You
may
or
may
not
have
recognized
me.
I
looked
at
the
same
a
little
younger,
but
we
swank
was
a
partner
with
you
again
for
health
insurance.
P
We
created
a
subgroup
within
the
evanston
health
plan
and
you
took
in
the
four
employees
of
the
agency
as
part
of
your
health
pool,
and
we
pay
you
on
a
monthly
basis
instead
of
paying
an
insurance
provider,
and
we
take
advantage
of
your
health
plan
through
ipvc,
and
we
appreciated
you
at
that
time
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
be
out
tonight
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
agency.
If
I
can
get
this
to
work
right,
I
I
always
make
presentations
to
our
23
municipal
members.
P
Talk
about
what
our
mission
is:
try
to
fit
to
provide
efficient
environmental,
sound
collection,
transportation,
transfer,
processing,
treatment,
storage,
disposal,
recovery,
reuse
and
municipal
solid
waste.
That's
what
we
do
in
general,
our
our
current
operations.
We
have
a
project
use
agreement
that
was
executed
by
our
twenty
three
member
communities
in
nineteen.
Eighty
eight,
it
runs
through
twenty
thirty
one.
So
all
23
members
agreed
that
there
was
a
benefit
to
aggregate
the
disposal
of
their
garbage
ways,
kind
of
like
electric
aggregation.
P
You
went
through
several
years
ago,
where
you
might
have
done
it
on
your
own,
or
you
might
have
partnered
with
a
couple
of
your
adjoining
communities
to
go
to
the
marketplace
to
get
the
best
rate
for
electricity,
we're
doing
the
exact
same
thing
for
the
disposal
of
your
solid
waste.
Your
municipal,
solid
waste.
We
don't
collect
it.
P
Evanston
provides
the
services
to
collect
it
either
through
contractor
or
through
their
own
in-house
service
of
our
23
member
towns.
We
still
have
six
that
have
some
level
of
in-house
collection.
The
other
of
17
have
relied
exclusively
for
vendor
contract
services.
We
operate
a
transfer
station,
it
opened
in
1994
1994
it.
Basically,
it
receives
the
trash
from
the
from
the
municipal
members,
it's
loaded
on
semis
and
it's
delivered
to
the
landfill.
P
Was
going
to
say,
you'll
ask
the
question
as
to
where
does
the?
Where
does
the
waste
go?
It
goes
to
winnebago
landfill
in
rockford
county,
just
one,
this
one
right
now
we're
in
contract
with
groot
industries,
their
primary
landfills,
winnebago
county.
They
have
a
secondary
landfill
per
hour
contract
with
them
it's
in
rochelle
and
they
can
use
that
when
they
notify
us.
But
there's
no
change
in
pricing
when
they
go
from
from
their
primary
landfill
to
their
alternate
landfill
swank
is
currently
seeking
proposals
for
the
operating
of
our
transfer
station.
P
We
haven't
been
in
the
marketplace
since
nineteen
ninety
four
we've
renegotiated
a
contract
when
we
took
the
bailers
out
around
2000
when
we
went
away
from
the
bail
fill
project.
That
was
the
original
concept
behind
solid
waste
agency,
we're
going
to
own
our
own
landfill
and
put
in
balers
to
do
a
state-of-the-art
bail
fill
we
went
away
from
that.
P
We
took
the
bailers
out,
we
renegotiated
contract
with
groot
once
it
goes
through
april
30
or
goes
through
october
30th
31st
of
this
year
and
we're
in
the
marketplace
right
now
seeking
assistance
from
the
vendor
community
for
an
operator.
Slash
potential
owner
of
the
transfer
station.
We
want
to
give
the
marketplace
an
opportunity
to
provide
to
swank
the
best
long-term
rate
options,
and
sometimes
that
may
not
be
owning
a
facility.
It
may
be
contracting
or
selling
the
facility
that
we
have
and
contracting
for
the
delivery
of
our
waste
to
that
facility.
P
P
Those
those
demographics
give
you
the
population
count
and
the
head
and
household
count
that
are
on
the
first
line.
It
gives
you
some
information
about
the
amount
of
tonnage
we
collect
from
evanston.
It
gives
you
a
household
number,
we
kind
of
break
it
down
into
the
number
of
households.
So
if
we
collect
10
000
tons
and
you
have
10
thousand
houses,
we
say:
there's
a
ton
of
garbage
per
house
and
and
deal
with
that.
The
middle
is
a
little
graph.
P
That
graph
tells
you
that
the
municipal,
solid
waste
is
the
tan
and
the
grain
recycling
is
the
green.
You
guys
are
in
the
the
upper
third
of
our
member
communities.
You
recycle
about
25
to
28
percent
of
your
waste
stream
that
comes
through
our
our
respective
communities.
That
does
not
count
landscape
waste.
P
P
But
it's
one
that
I
think
has
potential
value
going
forward
when
you
can
educate
those
people.
We
get
calls
all
the
time
on
how
we
can
recycle
when
we
live
in
a
multi-family
unit
and
we
send
them
back
to
their
municipal
partners,
because
we
don't
provide
collection
services
on
the
bottom.
It's
a
chart
of
special
services
that
we
provide.
P
P
P
The
environmental
stewardship
is
what
I
call
that
public
education
right
below
that
in
the
environmental
stewardship
there's
little
special
collection
programs,
the
prescription,
drugs,
the
mercury,
the
batteries,
the
cfls,
our
recycling
rebate.
We
spend
spend
every
time
that
we
take
in
and
a
rebate
from
our
vendor.
We
give
back
to
our
municipal
members
that
participate
that's
about
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
then
we
get
non-member
revenue
of
almost
seven
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
P
Part
of
that
is
that
rebate,
money
of
250,
but
we
also
collect
almost
a
half
a
million
dollars
in
customers
coming
to
our
facility
that
aren't
members
that
pay
the
daily
gate
rate.
So,
to
a
certain
extent,
half
of
our
administrative
costs
are
covered
by
outside
parties
that
are
paying
for
that
gate
rate
and
we're
working
all
the
time
to
try
to
build
that
market
market
share.
P
Here's
a
quick
graph
that
can
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information,
it's
always
nice
to
say
well,
where's
our
rate
and
where's
it's
been.
Where
is
it,
then?
This
is
from
1995
when
we
opened
the
transfer
station
in
94.,
it
gives
you
the
the
big
bars
the
operational
bar.
The
top
bar
is
the
debt
service
bar.
As
you
can
notice,
the
debt
service
is
going
away
and
in
fy
16
there's
no
debt
outstanding.
P
All
of
the
swank
assets
are
fully
paid
for
by
its
members.
They'll
have
no
more
debt
and
we
currently
have
a
58.15
tipping
fee,
which
would
be
the
lowest
fee.
We've
had
on
a
full
full
agency
process
over
the
course
of
of
several
years.
As
you
can
see
the
next
chart,
it
again
is
a
little
wordy
because
it's
got
23
members
in
there,
but
if
you
were
able
to
pick
evanston
out
of
there,
your
monthly
call.
This
is
a
this.
P
Is
your
annual
cost
over
the
course
of
the
last
five
years,
you'd
you'd
be
able
to
read
that
it's
gone
down
every
year,
it's
driven
by
two
two
components:
how
much
trash
you
deliver
to
us
and
how
much
our
rate
is,
so
our
rate's
been
coming
down,
but
so
is
your
trash
part
of
that
is
an
economic
issue
from
the
from
the
from
the
issues
that
occurred
with
them
with
the
recession
and
less
spending
occurring.
P
Therefore,
less
garbage
was
being
generated
in
the
you
know,
because
of
the
spending
and
and
and
as
I
said,
some
of
it
is
our
rate
reduction
going
back
down.
The
the
the
last
couple
of
slides
are
real
quick.
We
provide
other
services,
as
I
mentioned
other
than
just
the
disposal
of
the
municipal,
solid
waste.
We
have
a
recycling
and
incentive
program
that
has
as
of
2012,
and
I
didn't
update
this
when
suzanne
gave
me
a
call.
We've
returned
about
a
million
dollars
to
our
members
in
the
last
three
years.
P
P
So
in
in
evanston's
case,
and
I
and
and
and
there's
a
memorandum
that
goes
to
the
board
of
directors
every
six
months
when
we
send
the
checks
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
share
them
with
suzette
and
and
mr
lyons
and
they
can,
they
can
turn
around
and
send
them
out
to
you.
But
we
keep
track
of
the
amount
of
recyclables
delivered
to
our
murph.
P
P
We
have
a
processing
price,
that's
in
our
contract,
that's
currently
around
73
and
we
have
a
basket
of
recyclable
goods
that
we
place
a
value
on
and
it's
set
in
the
marketplace,
and
we
can
go
to
kind
of
like
the
chicago
board
of
trade.
But
it's
really
not
the
chicago
board
of
trade,
but
they
set
a
value
for
that
basket
of
goods,
and
if
that
basket
of
goods
is
above
our
processing
rate,
then
we
get
to
share
in
that
game
as
well.
P
Presently,
because
of
the
depressed
world
markets
for
materials,
the
pro
the
basket
of
goods
is
under
the
processing
rate,
so
we
get
the
minimum
floor
of
five
dollars
a
ton
and
that's
been
the
case
for
the
last
16
months
that
the
processing
rates
below
the
value
of
the
materials
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
value
materials
should
be
thrown
in
the
trash,
because
it
costs
50
some
dollars
a
ton
to
put
it
into
trash,
we're
still
collecting
some
money,
it's
just
less
than
the
processing
rate
that
they
currently
have,
and
then
they
rebate
us.
P
So
to
answer
your
question,
we
tally
how
much
recyclable
weight
you
bring
in
and
then
each
six
months
we
send
a
check
times
whatever
the
formula
says
it
is
the
base
floor
or
the
combination
of
the
base,
plus
the
process,
plus
the
gain.
Fifty
percent
of
the
game.
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
see
that
accounting.
Q
Mayor,
how
do
you
capture
recyclables,
or
do
you
capture
recyclables,
that
are
not
put
in
recyclable,
bins.
P
If
it's
not
in
the
container
collected
by
the
appropriate
vendor,
either
in-house
staff-
and
I
believe
evanston
does
in-house
on
the
recycling,
we
don't
collect
it.
There's
no
sorting
of
municipal
solid
waste
at
our
transfer
station.
Everything
that
hits
our
floor
from
a
garbage
truck,
even
though
there's
valuable
material
in
there
can't
be
so
isn't
sorted
at
our
facility.
Our
facility
is
straight
load
up
and
take
it
to
the
landfill
okay.
Q
Have
there
has
there
been
any
research
done
as
to
how
much
what
percentage
of
the
stuff
that
doesn't
come
in
via
the
recycling
effort
could
be
recycled
and
how
much
that
might
save
in
terms
of
landfill.
P
Well,
the
the
state
does
the
the
the
illinois
epa
and,
through
their
dekio
branch,
does
an
annual
does
a
every
three
or
four
year
audit
of
trash
in
the
in
in
the
transfer
stations,
and
then
they
do
a
complete
audit
as
to
what's
in
the
trash,
if,
if
there's
still
hazardous
waste
in
the
trash,
if
there's
still
recyclables
in
this
trash
that
reports-
probably
not
due
until
the
end
of
this
year
for
the
most
recent
audit
they're
doing
that
occurred
late,
14
early
15th.
P
P
Everybody
thinks
is
a
great
positive,
I'm
not
trying
to
downplay
that,
but
the
but
right
now
one
of
the
more
valuable
commodities
in
the
waste
stream
is
the
paper
products,
cardboard
chipboard
and
the
paper
products
once
they're
in
the
municipal,
solid
waste
stream
and
contaminated
by
everything
else.
That's
in
the
municipal
solid
waste
stream.
P
They
become
less
valuable
because
of
that
contamination,
the
greatest
asset
that
we
did
as
an
organization
was
to
put
carts
out
there
with
lids
on
them,
so
that
when
you
put
paper
and
cardboard
in
that
carton,
you
close
the
lid
all
of
a
sudden
the
value
of
the
paper
that
we
were
collecting
that
the
vendor
was
selling
had
a
greater
market
value.
P
But
I
can
get
you
the
reports
and
you
can
share
it.
It's
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
win-win,
as
everybody
kind
of
thinks.
They're
still
going
to
be
municipal
waste
going
out
there
and
there's
a
few
places
in
in
the
country
that
are
doing
dirty,
mers
that
are
bringing
all
the
trash
in
and
trying
to
get
it
and
they're
still
only
getting
50
to
55
recovery,
they're
still
sinning
a
bunch,
that's
better
than
our
25
here
in
evanston
or
28
in
evanston,
but
there's
a
big
cost
to
move
from
28
to
55.
Q
And
and
tell
me
what
the
acronym
is
merv
or
what
does
that
stand
for.
P
That's
a
material
recycling
facility
or
sometimes
it's
a
material
processing
facility.
Okay,
thank
you.
Alderman.
D
I
What
all
this
is
right
now,
first
of
all
to
answer
to
respond
to
this,
I
didn't
have
my
mic
to
respond
to
alderman
fisk.
I
I
really
think
the
job
you're
talking
about
belongs
to
the
city,
and
I
think
that
at
some
point
in
time,
if
we,
I
always
thought
it
was
a
required.
I
thought
it
was
a
law
that
you
had
to
recycle.
I
So
I
think
that
I
think
that
people
who
are
not
recycling
it's
as
serious
as
having
a
garage
falling
down
and-
and
we
should
start
citing
them-
that's
what
I
think
so
that
would
resolve
the
problem
of
dirty
garbage
and
having
to
sort
it
out.
But
second
of
all,
we
own.
We
own
swank,
owns
the
transfer
station.
P
I
I
I
P
Wouldn't
make
that
assumption,
but
but
but
it's
a
pro,
but
it's
a
but
it's
a
landfill.
It's
been
in
operation
for
over
50
years.
It's
I,
I
believe,
and
it's
in
its
own
by
private
investors.
I
P
The
the
answer
I
can
give
you
is
that
our
board
of
directors,
of
which
you
guys
participate
in
I'll,
take
a
look
at
that
annual
budget
every
year
and
and
evaluate
where
it
is
and
what
the
price
is,
but
that
cost
of
garbage
disposal
we
only
it
literally.
We
only
take
about
a
third
of
that
regular
cost.
P
P
P
So
they
get
a
package
price
from
the
from
the
operator.
So
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
pick
out
what
this,
what
the
package
cost
is
from
an
operator
versus
what
our
charge
is
and
what
your
collection
charges.
I
can
make
those
assumptions
based
upon
households
and
what
we
bill
you
on
a
monthly
basis
for
club
for
disposal,
but
to
a
certain
extent,
all
of
our
members
at
times
also
include
some
administrative
costs
that
they
still
have
in
their
solid
waste
that
they
want
to
be
billed
for
or
collected.
P
I
don't
know
how
your
residents
pay
for
garbage.
I
yeah
we'd
pay
plenty.
No,
what
I
mean
by
that
is.
I
have
towns
that
have
the
vendor
bill,
100
of
the
swank
fee
and
the
collection
fee
straight
to
the
vendor.
I
have
towns
that
bill
it
on
their
water
bill
as
they
combined,
and
I
have
towns
that
bill
nothing
and
put
it
on
their
property
taxes.
I
P
The
agency
has
with
the
members
it's
kind
of
like
we
currently
own
the
house
and
we
rent
it
to
an
operator
okay,
but
we
can
rent
the
use
of
the
facility
and
not
own
it
not
have
to
pay
any
of
the
any
of
the
replacement
or
capital
or
any
of
that.
Some
of
that
current
maintenance
and
operation
cost.
We
share
some
of
it.
We
we
pay
a
hundred
percent,
so
we're
just
looking
at
alternatives.
P
I
M
P
So
our
relationship
with
group,
okay,
swank,
owns
the
capital
facility
of
that's
the
one
view
transfer
station
we've
chosen
to
hire
a
professional
waste
management
company
to
operate
the
transfer
station
right
in
this
case
under
current
contract.
It's
crude
industries,
they
work
for
us
and
they
are
responsible
for
the
waste
that
comes
into
the
building.
M
P
P
M
But
I
I
and
I
hear
you
I
really,
but
I
it's.
I
guess,
I'm
blocking
it
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
when
you
say
that,
so
therefore
you
made
a
decision
to
go
with
gru,
but
if
you
help
me
to
understand
the
difference
between
group
taking
that
garbage
to
glenview
and
mixing
it
with
the
13
other
municipalities
and
but
still
putting
it
on
a
truck
and
taking
it
to
that
transfer
station,
I
just
don't
get
that.
Well.
The.
P
P
M
S
We
follow
the
trucks
we
do
audits
at
the
transfer
station
to
confirm
that
the
garbage
from
evanston
the
truck
that's
operating
in
evanston-
and
I
will
say
at
least
over
the
last
well
since
I've
been
here
in
the
the
nine
years
that
I've
been
here
when
we
started
our
waist
collection,
was
at
about
nineteen
thousand
tons
and
we're
now
at
twelve
thousand
a
little
over
twelve
thousand
tons.
So
we've
had
a
seventh
out,
twelve
thousand
fourteen
thousand,
let's
see
which
one
fourteen
thousand
I'm
sorry
we
so
we've
we've
gone.
I
To
follow
up
a
little
on
that-
and
this
is
just
asking
for
the
opinion
of
both
of
you
really
when
when
swank
was
started
and
all
the
communities
got
together,
it
pretty
much
had
to
do
with
the
difficulty
of
finding
a
landfill
that
anybody
could
afford.
It
was
getting
crazy
and
then
there
were
landfills
that
were
closing
and
land,
so
they
were
going
to
do.
P
Well,
the
the
marketplace
has
seen
a
couple
of
things
over
the
course
of
the
20
plus
years
you're
talking
about
so
when
we
were
talking
about
building
a
bale
fill
back
in
the
back
in
the
early
90s
late
80s
early
90s
to
today.
One
of
the
principal
components
that
are
that
has
occurred
is
the
removal
of
two
components
out
of
the
waste
stream,
all
the
recyclables
that
we
do
today.
P
those
two
components
and
in
our
territory
we
believe
approach
45
to
50
percent
of
the
total
waste
are
now
gone
away
and
that's
no
different
in
a
lot
of
other
towns,
almost
every
pro
town
has
a
recycling
program.
Grass
clippings
has
been
banned
from
from
the
landfills,
that's
a
state
law.
So,
to
the
certain
extent
the
landfill
capacities
have
kind
of
stayed
the
same.
The
second
component
was
the
vendor
community,
the
haulers,
the
groups,
the
waste
managements,
the
republics,
the
maybe
a
bad
term.
P
The
advanced
disposals
of
the
world
and
the
lake
shores
have
figured
out
that
by
aggregating
the
loads
in
the
garbage
truck
at
a
transfer
station
and
loading
a
semi,
they
can
make
it
affordable
to
drive
45-50
miles
to
the
respective
landfills
in
the
chicago
regional
landfills.
Today,
there's
two
in
winnebago
county,
I.e,
rockford,
there's
one
in
dekalb,
there's
one
in
pontiac,
there's
one
in
lee
county,
there's
one
across
the
border
in
indiana
and
there's
two
up
in
lake
county
that
are
smaller
on
landfills.
To
a
certain
extent.
P
That's
where
all
of
the
trash
in
the
chicago
metro
region
is
going
so
they've
all
kind
of
figured
out
that
transportation
leg
that
that
loaded
on
a
semi
and
haul
it
someplace,
because
you
can
put
25
tons
of
trash
on
a
semi
you've
got
about
seven
or
eight
tons
of
trash
on
a
garbage
truck.
So
you
can
put
three
garbage
trucks
on
a
semi
load.
P
It
out,
send
it
out
to
the
landfill
and
they've
made
that
cost
fairly
manageable
over
the
change
of
the
last
eight
or
ten
years
and
you're
going
to
see
one
more
change
that
I
predict.
They'll
do
in
the
next
four
or
five
is
they're
going
to
convert
all
of
those
diesel
trucks
to
natural
gas
once
they
figure
out
the
short
haul
distance
and
how
how
that
short,
haul
distance
will
work
they're
going
to
drive
down
their
transportation
cost
again
by
the
value
of
going
to
natural,
compressed
natural
gas
over
diesel.
P
G
We
just
have
a
a
full
agenda
and
we
are
also
going
to
be
talking
with
ms
robinson
on
solid
waste
later,
and
we
can
also.
I
know
that
mr
van
vorn
would
love
to
come
back
at
any
time
that
we
would
like
him
to
to
further
the
discussion,
and
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate,
especially
once
we
determine
our
course
with
our
way
with
groot
over
the
next
year
to
10
years.
However,
we
move
forward
with
that
negotiation.
Slash
request
for
proposals.
P
I
Year
right
well,
I
I
really
would
like
to
hear
an
analysis
of
what
we
think
going
forward.
I
mean
I,
I
feel
very
uncomfortable
about
all
this,
but
and
it
might
be
absolutely
the
best
deal
in
the
world,
but
I
didn't
hear
anything
tonight
that
made
me
think
that
I
don't
have
anything
to
compare
it
with
well.
I
D
I
G
My
final
presentation
is
with
catherine
hurley,
our
sustainability
manager,
and
it
will
be
shorter
than
the
last
two.
T
Thank
you
good
evening,
madam
mayor
members
of
city
council
acting
city
manager,
lions
and
city
clerk,
green.
I'm
pleased
to
present
an
update
on
our
earth
hour
city
challenge,
which
we
are
in
the
last
12
days
for
everyone
to
help
vote
for
the
we
love
cities,
people
selection
in
the
world,
wildlife
funds,
earth
hour,
city
challenge.
We
are
still
currently
in
about
the
fourth
place
position,
but
people's
voting
online
and
through
the
hashtag
we
love
evanston,
has
been
very
successful.
T
A
U
V
Recycle
all
of
our
water
use
the
brewery
we
recycle
all
of
our
grains
that
we've
spent.
We
use
reusable
containers
that
people
can
kind
of
come
in
and
fill
with
beer
and
then
reuse
over
and
over
and
over
again.
This
kind
of
part
of
sustainability
is
something
that
our
entire
business
model
is
designed
to
address.
W
Evanston
has
a
community
where
everybody
really
cares.
I
feel
like
everywhere
you
go,
whether
it's
the
businesses
or
the
schools
or
the
not-for-profits.
Everybody
wants
to
help
give
back
and
do
what
they
can
to
to
make
this
place
better,
and
you
know,
sustainability
is
certainly
something
that
is
very
important
to
our
future
and
our
children's
futures.
X
Y
T
Great
thank
you
for
watching
our
short
video,
which
I
think
was
a
great
example
of
how
much
fun
it
was
to
have
that
in
person
spirit
on
the
we
love
evanston
day-
and
this
is
just
one
of
the
many
reasons
why
evanston
is
such
a
wonderful
livable,
sustainable
community,
and
so
the
really
exciting
news
that
we
wanted
to
share
this
evening
is
that
today,
earlier,
the
world
wildlife
fund
has
decided
that
evanston
has
been
named.
The
u.s
earth
hour,
capital
of
2015
among
44
cities
across
the
united
states.
So.
T
It's
really
very
exciting.
We've
we've
submitted
in
this
several
years
in
a
row
and
evanston
was
finally
given
the
recognition
it
deserves.
This
slide
shows
a
few
of
the
examples
of
what
the
world
wildlife
fund's
11-member
jury,
that
included
renowned
leaders
in
urban
sustainability
and
professional
consultants
at
accenture
noted
our
100
percent
green
energy
for
residents
and
small
businesses
that
we
provide
through
the
city's
electricity
aggregation
program.
T
So
in
the
coming
two
weeks
before
the
big
conference
in
seoul
south
korea,
the
the
earth
hour
capitals
across
the
world
will
start
to
be
announced.
So
there's
already
been
a
few
vancouver
and
canada
gottenberg
and
sweden,
and
then
singapore
in
that
region
of
the
world,
but
eventually
each
one
of
these
countries
will
have
a
city.
That's
named
the
earth,
our
capital
and
then
in
seoul
south
korea.
T
But,
as
we
mentioned
at
the
very
first
slide,
this
very
exciting
achievement,
which
is
based
on
evanston's,
demonstrated
success
in
reducing
our
energy
usage
and
improving
our
green
energy
options
is
separate
from
the
we
love
cities
to
be
the
most
lovable
sustainable.
So
we
still
have
12
days
where
people
can
continue
to
vote
online.
T
The
wheel
of
evanston.org
is
our
short
url.
You
can
also
use
the
hashtag.
We
love
evanston
on
twitter
and
through
instagram,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
we
love
cities,
winning
city
will
be
announced,
live
in
seoul,
south
korea,
where
mayor
tizel
and
I
will
be
going
to
receive
the
award
on
behalf
of
evanston
and
hopefully
bring
home
the
we
love
cities
award
as
well,
so
encouraging
people
to
continue
to
vote
and
we
can
have
evanston
add
one
more
wonderful
accomplishment,
thanks
to
everyone's
hard
work
on
our
recognition
list.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
city
clerk.
Do
you
have
communications
for
us.
E
Yes,
matt,
may
I
do
keep
in
mind
that
monday
starts
the
election
for
the
district,
65
and
202
from
the
23rd
through
the
april
4th
the
times
be
from
nine
to
five
monday
through
saturday
and
then
on
palm
sunday
from
9
to
3..
E
Also
there'll
be
some
more
changes
coming
from
the
clerk's
office
starting
effectively
on
wednesday
april
1st,
it's
going
to
be
some
changes
in
in
getting
your
transfer
of
stamps
for,
for
your
exempt
stamps,
we'll
still
be
charging
100
administration
fee,
but
we
will
also
be
including
a
link
on
the
line
on
the
web
page.
Where
that
you
can
get
your
real
estate
transfer
tax
declaration
and
with
that
you'll
be
able
to
contact
the
clerk's
office
for
your
water
and
any
other
things
that
may
happen.
E
You
give
we'll
give
you
a
five-day
five-day
turnaround
so
that,
if
you
call
the
cert
clerk's
office
in
five
days,
we'll
be
able
to
make
sure
that
you
have
everything
you
need.
So
you
don't
have
to
go
from
department
department
to
get
your
stamps.
E
We'll
also
include
on
that
line.
A
link
to
the
real
estate
transfer
tax
chart,
which
you
can
then
also
figure
out
exactly
how
much
money
you
need
to
pay
for
your
property
without
having
to
come
in
and
with
two
different
checks
or
the
wrong
amount
of
check
anything
over
a
million
dollars
again
a
cashier
check
or
or
a
certified
check,
no
credit
cards,
no,
no
personal
checks
and
no
company
checks
that,
like
saying
those
changes
will
be
effective
as
of
wednesday
april
1
2015..
D
L
E
No,
I
said
we
will
give
you
five
business
days
to
apply
for
it,
which
means
that
there
will
be
some
circumstance
where
that
you
need
it
immediately.
So
if
you
come
in
you,
your
final
water
bill
has
not
been
paid,
then
we
will
double
that
water
bill
and
then
send
you
a
refund.
If
you
need
a
refund
right.
L
D
Thank
you.
Next
on
the
agenda
is
citizen
comment.
We
have
three
speakers.
Please
come
up
in
the
order.
You're
called
june
ad
risky
nate
kipnis
and
eleanor
revell.
Z
Our
wealthy
mayor
will
gladly
raise
property
taxes
here
over
10
percent
on
evanston
residents,
with
the
excuse,
it's
the
governor's
fault.
The
reason
we
are
over
taxed
here
is
because
of
this
council
of
the
mayor
and
senior
staff's
mismanagement
of
our
resources.
I
have
repeatedly
asked
for
proper
financial
accounting
of
the
water
operations.
Z
Z
New
water
sales
and
new
contracts
would
like
really
will
now
be
messed
up.
Just
like
the
previous
contracts,
because
there
are
certain
people
on
the
council
continue
to
refuse
to
really
do
anything
to
analyze
the
water
department.
We
talked
about
swank
tonight
and
but
you
never
really
have
to
ask
about
the
water
department
sales
and
also
tonight
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
waste
and,
as
I
recall,
the
director
of
that
department,
overestimated
yard
waste
sticker
tails
sales
dramatically
here,
costing
the
taxpayers
probably
a
one
to
two
percent
property
tax
increase.
Z
So
really
do
we
have
any
trust
in
what
we're
going
to
hear
tonight
from
our
director
of
public
works.
And,
frankly,
when
you
go
down
to
springfield
and
ask
the
governor
for
money
in
northwestern
pays
for
dinner,
why
don't
you
ask
northwestern
to
pay
for
one
of
the
fire
stations
here?
At
least
50
percent
of
that
of
our
loss
in
revenue
would
be
covered
by
what
northwestern
uses
for
our
fire
station.
Z
I
think
maybe
it's
time
to
place
an
ordinarium
on
northwestern's
development
such
as
building
with
you
know,
funded
by
their
super
wealthy
alumni,
who
basically,
basically,
what
are
we
paying
for
for
fire
protection,
a
visitor's
center
and
a
football
palace.
These
are
highly
related
educational
expenses
of
the
university
when
you're
mashing
it
up.
You
might
also
want
to
ask
them
about
paying
for
the
having
the
parking
lot
developed
north
of
the
garage
frankly,
that
land's
been
sitting
there
for
quite
a
few
years,
and
why
hasn't
it
been
developed?
Z
Why
doesn't
northwestern
develop
it?
Someone
might
say
it's
their
property.
Well,
as
I
recall,
this
council
cut
trees
down
on
our
property
for
northwestern
to
put
up
their
visitor
center.
Basically,
for
a
view,
is
governor,
rauner
really
responsible
for
all
that
problems
with
economic
development.
Here
I
just,
I
think
the
recent
thing
with
the
parking
at
the
maple
ethanol
garage
is
very
interesting.
How
you
want
to
give
a
developer,
basically
free
parking
with
our
money,
and
it
really
is
the
parking
fund
solvent.
Z
Then,
of
course,
we
have
all
the
tiffs
and
all
the
issues
down
there.
The
most
recent
one
I
thought
was
really
ridiculous.
Was
we
were
going
to
take
10
percent
of
a
gross
of
a
coffee
shop?
Of
course,
then
there's
harley
clark
and
the
city
has
no
money
for
harley
clark
and
we
want
to
sell
it.
But
frankly,
when
I
look
at
this,
we
also
just
recently
bought
a
building
for
some
other
recreational
use
here
with
really
no
discussion
and
do
we
even
know
have
any
planning
in
the
rec
department.
Z
Of
course,
we
have
robert
crown,
which
the
city
doesn't
appear
to
be
able
to
fund
and
council
members
criticizing
library
board
members
recently
as
being
frivolous
with
the
money
want
to
take
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
bonding
money
from
the
library
and
overcharge
the
library,
basically
to
build
the
building.
It's
ridiculous
at
five
hundred
dollars
a
square
foot.
You
can't
that's
ridiculous,
so
you're
really
taking
our
business.
Z
AA
Hi,
I'm
nate
kipnis,
I'm
an
architect
here
in
town
and
I'm
a
member
of
citizens
greener
evanston.
I
also
serve
on
the
american
institute
of
architects,
national
2030
committee
and-
and
I
should
also
say
I
love
evanston.
So
let
me
start
with
that.
I
just
I'd
like
to
urge
the
city
council
to
make
the
energy
benchmarking
ordinance
come
to
fruition.
AB
Good
evening
excuse
my
voice,
I'm
eleanor
revell,
president
of
citizens,
greener
evanston,
and
I'm
here
also
to
speak
in
support
of
the
benchmarking
ordinance
idea.
Improving
energy
efficiency
of
our
buildings
is
really
one
of
the
key
strategies
of
our
evanston
livability
plan.
Energy.
Benchmarking
will
help
building
managers
measure
and
track
their
build
their
energy
and
water
use,
and
it
will
help
them,
then
reduce
their
usage
and
their
energy
costs.
AB
This,
in
turn,
of
course,
will
help
reduce
evanston's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
move
us
all
the
closer
then
to
to
meeting
our
goal
of
a
20
reduction
by
2016.,
with
a
benchmarking
ordinance
in
place.
Evanston
will
further
solidify
its
status
as
one
of
the
leading
sustainability
cities
in
the
country
and
yay
evanston,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
citizens
greener
evanston
foley
supports
the
idea
of
that
energy.
Benchmarking
evidence
ordinance
for
evanston.
Thank
you.
D
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Our
first
special
order
of
business
is
a
discussion
on
solid
waste
options.
Director
suzette
robinson
will
present
some
options
regarding
the
improving
our
solid
waste
fund,
which
has
been
discussed
earlier,
as
well
as
our
initial
discussions
with
groot
and
finally,
our
longer
term
discussions
on
what
we
will
do
with
future
refuse
hauling
director
robinson.
S
Tonight
tonight
I'm
going
to
give
you
an
overview
of
our
current
operations,
the
recycling,
commercial
residential
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
condominium
service
services,
the
collaborative
operations
alternative
and
look
at
the
overall
impact
of
some
of
the
things
that
are
on
the
table
for
for
discussion,
we're
not
asking
for
any
decisions.
This
is
just
really
a
thought
provoking
exercise
as
a
result
of
some
some
options.
That
group,
as
well
as
north
shore
has
presented
us.
Those
are
our
existing
haulers.
S
So
just
a
brief
overview
of
our
operation,
residential
refuge
is
collected
by
groot.
The
city
collects
the
residential
recycling
as
well
as
well
as
the
condominium
recycling
groot
also
collects
the
residential
yard
waste
and
the
condominium
yara
waste
and
lake
shore
connect
collects
the
condominium
refuge.
S
So
the
situation
that
we
are
in
right
now,
our
contracts
expire
this
year
october,
31st.
Those
are
the
renewal
options
that
are
existed
that
exist
today
for
the
all
of
them.
Our
three-year
renewals,
except
for
the
commercial
franchise,
is
up
to
five
years.
It's
actually
five
one-year
renewals
so
one
year
at
a
time
we
could
renew
the
franchise
if
we
desired.
S
One
more
thing
I
want
to
go
back
to
to
talk
about
if
we
we
need
to
make
a
decision
or
within
the
next
month
or
so
at
with
regards
to
the
renewal
clause,
where
it
automatically
renews.
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
director.
Obstacle.
Can
you
mind
going
back
so
which
each
one
of
these
companies
would
we
then
be
restricted
to
use
their
dumpsters
similar
to
the
contract
with
groot.
S
That's
correct:
that's
a
part
of
the
commercial
franchise
for
the
the
next
year.
It
would
be
a
group
has
that
provides
that
service.
S
So
a
quick
overview
in
terms
of
the
the
financials.
This
is
the
same
side
that
I
showed
you
previously
a
few
months
ago.
The
only
thing
that
we
have
added
is
there's
a
projection
for
what
our
cost
would
be
in
2016.
S
and
what
you'll
see
down
at
the
bottom
is
the
general
fund
transfer
and
that
general
fund
adjustment
number
is
actually
so.
For
example,
in
2014
our
revenue
exceeded
the
expenses,
so
the
transfer
from
the
general
fund
actually
adjusted
downward
as
a
result
of
that.
S
The
recycling
operations,
currently
the
the
city,
provides
those
services,
as
I
mentioned
before,
in
addition
to
to
those
services,
the
city,
sanitation,
crews,
also
provide
for
special
pickups
free
bulk
trash
collections
twice
a
year
residential
tire
removals
scrap
metal
collection.
Those
services
are
also
free
by
just
calling
3-1-1.
S
They
also
participate
in
the
snow
removal
operations,
and
one
of
the
points
that
I
want
to
make
when
we
had
the
blizzard
in
2010
a
key
component
of
our
ability
to
be
able
to
clean
up
the
snow
that
time
as
well
as
the
blizzard
that
we
had
this
year,
has
to
do
with
the
plowing
operations
from
from
the
solid
waste
trucks,
and
that
happened
about
six
years
ago,
where
we
actually
purchased
plows,
and
we
now
have
five
plows
on
our
refuge
vehicles
at
the
moment,
then
they
also
participate
in
storm
debris,
removal
for
mostly
for
flood
cleanup
and
then
special
event.
S
S
We
some.
We
also
were
able
to
increase
the
opportunity
for
business
and
multi-family
recycling
participation
and
it
standardized
our
operating
hours,
which
was
were
really
key
and
reduce
the
number
of
trucks
in
town
looking
at
what
the
franchise
operation
has
provided
for
us
on
a
revenue
basis,
so
our
administration
fees
through
2014,
as
well
as
the
administration
fee
associated
with
the
rolloff
program.
S
We
had
a
cost
assistance
program
where
the
city
actually
paid
and
then
the
contractor
we
shared
from
year
to
year,
where
we
paid
to
gradually
increase
the
up
the
six
percent
that
paid
more.
We
made
them.
We
made
it
so
that
they
didn't
have
an
abrupt
change.
So
over
five
years
we
gradually
increased
and
brought
them
up
to
the
franchise
rate,
and
then
the
recycle
rebate
swank
spoke
about
that
the
recycle
rebate
earlier.
S
All
right
apologize
for
not
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
tiny
slide,
but
what
what
I
wanted
to
to
show
you
in
comparison?
Some
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
from
different
businesses
was
that
groups
rates
were
slightly
higher
and
so
what
we've
provided.
S
You
is
a
comparison
of
the
charts
for
the
the
services
that
are
listed
below,
so
we
have
evanston
versus
niles
versus
wilmette
and
what
they
pay
by
container
size
and
that's
based
on
the
service
that
they
receive
per
week,
and
you
will
see
that
in
some
cases
the
fees
are
lower
throughout
the
the
matrix.
The
numbers
are
all
over
the
place,
so
the
the
best,
the
one,
the
one
and
a
half
yard
and
a
two
yard-
are
the
more
common
sizes
of
dumpsters.
S
S
S
All
right,
so
the
other
service
that
they
provide
that
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
is
the
roll-off
cost.
So
we
have
shared
with
you
the
as
well
as
some
comparative
group
is
the.
This
is
what
they're
currently
charging
for
15
20
30
yard,
rolloff
dumpster.
S
So
as
you
can
see,
those
fees
are
higher
than
what
republican
advanced
disposal
currently
provide
and
as
a
result,
they
have
agreed
also
to
a
10
percent
reduction
or
proposed
not
agreed.
They
proposed
a
10
reduction
to
the
container
sizes
and
that
results
in
more
competitive
pricing
and
they
anticipate
an
estimated
customer
savings
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
M
So
the
comparison
between
republican
advance,
those
are
then
the
ones
that
we'd
be
considering
or
their
other
agents
I
mean.
Are
there
other
companies.
M
S
D
Q
You,
madam
mayor
suzette,
I
think
the
the
concern
from
business
owners
is
that
they're
no
longer
entitled
to
go
out
and
get
comparative
pricing
that
they
have
to
go
with
the
franchise
agreement.
Can
you
tell
me
what's
what's
the
cost
per
business
for
the
surcharge
that
businesses
are
paying
to
the
city
for
the
privilege
of
not
getting
comparative
pricing.
S
The
if
you
go
back,
that
is
the
administrative
roll-off
fee.
That's
the
152
000
per
year!
That's
the
city's
admin
fee
associated
with
the
dumpster
program,
so
it's
ten
dollars
per
yard.
So
on
the
fifteen
dollar
right
ten
dollars
per
per
yard,
correct.
D
I
S
Of
the
the
roll-off
container
prices
are
higher
and
I
think
that
that
is
the
biggest
impact.
Well,
what
about
what
about.
B
S
And-
and
I
I
think
that
that
rate
has
to
do
with
the
escalator,
that's
within
the
contract.
What
does.
S
The
the
annual
increase
and
and
groups
contract
was
set
at
four
percent
annually,
most
escalators
are
cpi
or
one
1.5,
to
3.5
or
at
cpi.
So
I
would
say:
four
percent
has
been
running
higher
than
the
consumer
price
index
and
that's
why
our
numbers
are
higher,
so
we've
been
giving
them
a
maximum
increase
as
a
part
of
that
contract,
so
they've
been
annually,
been
increasing
their
contract
contract
at
a
flat
rate
of
four
percent
and.
B
I
I
What
those
numbers
must
look
like
compared
to
going
out
to
bid
or
taking
somebody
else,
or
at
least
challenging
them
to
their
fees?
I
am
very
really
I
I
think
we
have
a
concern
and
that's
what
I'm
going
to
say,
imagine,
1994
and
and
we're
talking
about
how
many
escalators
have
we
had
with
them
it's
every
year
of
the
contract.
Yes,
all
right.
G
How
many
years
is
it?
That's
that's
different.
That's
pardon
me,
man
that
that
escalator
for
swank
is
not
since
1994.
S
Yeah,
how
many
2009
for
the
last
four
years,
five
years
so
every.
R
G
And
madam
mayor
alderman
rainey,
one
of
the
things
we'll
also
come
back
to
you
with
is
when
niles
and
the
others
were
last
renegotiated.
G
So
if,
for
instance,
we're
looking
at
a
10
percent
decrease
as
an
offer
from
groot,
what
were
they
offered
and
what
are
theirs
within
the
last
three
years,
so
they
ratcheted
down
before
we
did
it's
kind
of
like
comparing
union
contracts
where
one
is
settled
at
a
different
time
than
another,
and
it
sometimes
can
be
a
little
bit
disconcerting
when
you're,
not
the
one
or
you're
at
the
top
of
yours,
when
somebody
else
just
renegotiated
in
a
downward
trend.
S
So
moving
into
the
residential
refuge
operation,
the
other
thing
that
they
are
proposing
is
no
increase
to
the
residential
refuge
rate
for
2016
and
holding
that
firm
will
result
in
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
savings.
S
They
have
an
offer
on
the
table
to
purchase
the
recycling
center.
They
have
submitted
a
proposal
and
would
like
to
purchase
the
recycling
center,
and
then
they
also
has
have
expressed
an
interest
in
the
long-term
lease
and
the
purchase
of
that
recycling
center
would
be
to
process
and
they
would
transfer
all
of
evanston's
recycling.
So
instead
of
driving
to
elk
grove
village.
I
AC
S
G
And
if
I
may
random
mayor
alderman
rainey,
that
offer
was
unsolicited,
so
we
did
not
yeah.
S
S
I'll
show
you
an
overall
chart
of
everything
that
they're
proposing,
as
well
as
what
north
lakeshore
had
to
offer
as
well
for
the
residential
operation
they're
proposing
to
collect
food
scraps,
along
with
the
yard,
race,
cart
only
and
they're
going
to
do
this
at
a
cost
of
sixty
four
thousand
dollars.
Organics
represent
roughly
ninety
percent
of
the
nineteen
percent
of
the
residential
stream.
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
about
fourteen
thousand
tons.
So
twenty
two
percent
of
that
number
could
be
removed
from
the
going
to
the
the
dumpster
and
would
be
diverted.
S
As
a
part
of
that,
if
council
entertained
that,
we
would
also
like
them
to
to
look
at
increasing
the
the
cart
fee
to
help
cover
the
cost
of
yard
waste,
which
is
now
25
dollars
which
is
substantially
lower
than
any
other
community.
That
provides
that
annual
subscription
service,
arlington
heights
charges,
125
and
glenview
charges
146
dollars
a
year.
S
Oh,
and
so
so
the
condo
operation
right
now
we're
at
just
over
six
dollars
and
so
lakeshore
is
offered
a
a
price
reduction
to
just
under
six
dollars,
and
that
represents
seven
thousand
dollars
in
savings.
Their
escalator
in
their
contract
is
the
standard
1.5
to
3.5
or
cpi.
S
S
Skokie
still
collects
refuge
twice
a
week
and
is
collected
in-house
and
their
recycling
is
collect
collected
by
a
group
and
their
franchise
is
also
collected
by
by
groot
as
well.
So
we
think
that
we
may
have
some
opportunities
and
we
are
going
to
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
to
see
if
they're,
interested
and
and
how
we
might
join
together
to
to
save
us.
Both
money.
M
With
that,
would
that
ever
consider
going
back
in-house
with
the
city
of
evanston
when
you're
talking
with
skulky
in
terms
of
garbage
pickup.
S
One
of
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
about
that
is
when
we
look
at
the
the
waste
reduction
component.
S
S
We
kept
our
equipment
on
the
on
the
chance
that
we
don't
have
all
of
it.
We
didn't,
but
we
didn't
downsize
to
zero,
so
that
if
it
was
council's
desire
to
switch
back
to
get
back
into
the
refuge
collection,
we
could
do
so
without
having
to
make
a
large
investment
in
trucks.
So
we
could
certainly
do
it.
G
S
And-
and
I
want
to
say
part
of
their
deal
and
the
this
whole
component,
they
are
asking
because
they're
not
doing
this
out
of
the
kindness
of
their
heart
they're,
asking
for
a
10-year
contract
extension
and,
and
so
the
the
and
and
the
numbers,
the
numbers
that
I
show
you
for
2016
and
the
there's
one
number
that's
one
time
that
is
a
one-time
number,
so
that
wouldn't
be
reflected
in
2017..
S
G
Madam
mayor,
just
one
final
note
on
that,
as
I
just
referenced
briefly,
we've
only
had
one
meeting
with
groot,
and
that
was
the
beginning
of
discussion.
So
staff
will
be
working
on
both
on
a
multi-tiered
front,
meaning
that
we'll
be
working
at
looking
at
joint
ventures
with
skokie,
we'll
be
looking
at
getting
the
request
for
proposal
ready
and
also
looking
at
what
it
means
to
have
a
one-year
extension
or
a
longer
extension
bring
all
of
those
options
back
to
the
city
council.
M
S
G
Madam
mayor,
at
this
time,
given
we're
heading
on
towards
nine
o'clock,
I
will
ask
the
council
if
there's
any
desire,
we
do
have
a
guest
from
morton
grove,
so
we
would
like
to
continue
on
with
the
wholesale
water
presentation
and
there
and
the
sp4.
The
resolution
is
somewhat
time
sensitive.
However,
if
desired,
we
can
place
the
year-end
financial
report
on
file
and
come
back
to
it.
G
The
general
fund
is
right
at
99
percent
and
101
percent,
so
it
came
in
right
on
target
and
the
report
just
also
shows
that
last
year's
budget-
the
whole
budget-
was
very
well
under
budget
on
the
expense
side,
but
we're
making
up
for
that
this
year
and
it's
all
in
capital.
So
I
can
go
through
that
or
but
or.
D
G
D
D
D
I
I
Matter
mayor,
I'd
like
to
move
sp5
the
year-end
financial
report
to
our
next.
G
Sp2
building
energy
benchmarking
report:
we
have
the
richard
lanyon
utilities,
commission
chair
here,
to
provide
their
report.
AC
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
city,
council,
city
clerk
and
members
of
the
public
and
acting
city
managers.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
of
presenting
this
a
report.
I'd
like
to
begin
by
recognizing
some
of
the
members
of
the
commission,
who've
braved,
the
warm
weather
to
come
out
to
the
meeting
tonight.
Dave
grumman,
eric
rosenberg,
jonathan
newsma
and.
AC
My
pardon,
I
just
said
thank
you.
Oh
you're
welcome
you'll
notice
on
the
slide
at
the
lower
bar
on
the
left.
There's
a
m
e,
a
e
e,
a
that's.
The
midwest
energy
efficiency
alliance.
They've
been
very
helpful
in
our
bringing
this
matter
to
this
point.
So
that's
why
that
is
on
the
slide,
and
with
that
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
utilities
commission
loves
evanston
and
wants
us
to
be
a
more
livable
city.
That's
why
we're
bringing
this
matter
to
your
attention?
AC
What
is
energy
benchmarking?
Very
simply,
it's
the
process
of
tracking
over
time,
the
energy
consumed
in
existing
buildings
and
comparing
that
to
other
buildings
of
similar
size
or
an
applicable
standard,
and
you
all
know
how
we
use
some
of
these
measures
in
our
everyday
life.
Well
for
buildings,
the
annual
energy
consumed
divided
by
the
floor
area
is
known
as
the
energy
use
intensity
and
that's
what
we
are
proposing
to
measure
there's
a
number
of
precedents.
We
have
here
leading
up
to
this.
AC
AC
In
2011,
we
had
a
master's
thesis
report
presented,
prepared
that
looked
at
39
municipal
buildings
and
the
potential
for
energy
savings,
and
we
want
to
expand
this
to
the
private
market
and,
of
course,
there's
a
desire
to
assist
building
owners
to
save
energy,
and,
of
course,
that
means
saving
money.
AC
We
know
that
commercial
buildings
account
for
more
than
half
of
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
and
the
benefits
of
tracking
this
energy
use
in
these
buildings
to
the
building
owner
is
first
of
all
energy
use
awareness
becoming
knowledgeable
about
how
much
energy
is
being
used
to
improve
efficiency
of
the
use
of
energy,
which
resides
to
savings
for
the
building
owner,
a
way
to
influence
existing
tenants
to
for
energy
efficiency
and
also
a
way
to
attract
new
tenants
if
you're,
a
better
performing
building
for
the
city.
AC
There's
been
nine
communities
around
the
country
that
have
already
adopted
a
building.
The
benchmarking
ordinance
another
community
similar
to
evanson
is
cambridge
massachusetts.
I've
been
in
in
the
business
of
benchmarking
for
a
little
under
a
year.
Now
so
there's
a
precedent
out
there.
How
do
you
account
for
the
energy
use?
Well,
the
epa
has
provided
a
database
for
this.
It's
called
the
energy
star
portfolio
manager,
it's
a
very
popular
database.
It's
used
by
over
350
000
buildings
that
comprises
of
40
percent
of
the
commercial
building
space
in
this
country.
AC
That
database
includes
some
metrics
calculators
so
that
the
people
that
use
the
database
can
calculate
energy
consumption,
their
missions
and
their
performance,
and
it's
a
good
management
tool
and
it's
free
no
cost
to
use
this
database.
AC
The
information
is
needed,
for
benchmarking
is
very
simple:
who
owns
the
building?
The
type
of
the
building
it
is
where
it's
located
and
the
basic
data
about
the
building
is
gross
floor
area,
use
details,
hours
of
operation,
types
of
businesses,
equipment
so
forth,
and,
of
course,
you
have
to
put
in
your
energy
energy
consumption,
electricity
and
natural
gas
for
electricity.
This
is
very
easy
process,
because
the
commonwealth
edison
provides
a
functionality
that,
with
the
building
owner's
permission,
the
data
can
be
put
directly
into
the
database
without
the
building
owner
having
to
manipulate
any
numbers.
AC
Nicor
does
not
have
that
flexibility
that
functionality,
but
we
hope
they
will
develop
it.
They
do
have
a
way
to
summarize
natural
gas
over
an
annual
period
and
provide
that
to
the
building
owner.
AC
Your
exemplary
and
a
four-year
study
by
epa
of
the
users
of
the
database
indicated
that
you
know
over
this
four-year
period.
There
was
a
seven
percent
energy
reduction,
of
course,
that
relates
directly
to
savings
for
the
building
owners
and
over
the
four
years
there
was
an
increase
in
the
score
of
the
buildings,
which
means
an
increase
in
efficiency
or
performance
in
the
use
of
energy.
AC
The
you
would
specify
that
you
have
use
of
the
energy
star
portfolio
manager,
for
the
data
capture
and
responsibility
would
fall
on
the
property
owner.
Not
the
tenants
in
the
building.
AC
Other
elements
of
an
ordinance
would
be
the
the
owner
submits
that
12
months
of
data
has
to
be
in
by
the
first
of
june
of
of
the
following
year.
That's
the
common
date
used
and
then
the
data
is
available
to
the
city
through
the
use
of
the
same
database.
AC
AC
Typically,
these
ordinances
start
with
buildings
of
fifty
thousand
square
feet,
and
it
would
be
up
to
the
city
to
produce
the
annual
report
and
put
it
on
its
web
and
advertise
it
publicly
and,
of
course,
at
the
bottom
there's
a
number
of
the
different
types
of
buildings
you
would
want
to
include
in
ordinances.
As
I
said,
this
could
be
phased
in
so
that
you
wouldn't
start
with
all
of
these
types
of
buildings
at
once.
AC
Six
basic
steps
to
implementing
such
an
ordinance.
First
of
all
establish
your
goals.
We've
already
done
that
the
second
step
would
be
to
develop.
A
stakeholders
group
include
the
businesses,
ngos,
professionals
in
the
business.
The
third
would
be
to
work
with
utilities.
I've
always
mentioned
already
mentioned
about
the
comet
and
nicor
and
what
they
can
do
and
we
would
work
with
them
more
closely
in
implementing
such
a
program.
AC
AC
We
would
want
to
implement
an
implementation
program
to
assist
the
building
owners
in
getting
into
the
program,
publicity,
information,
websites,
question
and
answers,
workshops,
etc,
and
the
last
would
be
the
city's
obligation
of
public
reporting
and
then
recognition
of
those
who
are
participating,
especially
the
the
exemplary
performers
and,
of
course,
anyone
who's
not
performing.
He
would
have
to
take
enforcement
action.
AC
The
next
steps-
that's.
Why
are
we?
We
are
here
tonight
we're
asking
for
the
support
of
the
city
council
in
continuing
to
pursue
this
program,
if
there's
no
ordinance
for
you
to
would
to
consider
yet
we're
not
there.
Yet
we
do
want
to
work
with
the
other
organizations
you've
heard
from
the
cb
cge
already,
and
we've
already
talked
to
the
environment
board.
They
support
this
proposal.
AC
The
utilities
commission
would
continue
to
take
the
lead
in
this
matter
in
working
with
the
stakeholder
group
and
further
developing
the
program
listing
some
of
the
members
of
the
stakeholder
group
that
we
would
be
working
with
at
the
bottom.
Here
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
attention
and
I
would
like
to
recognize
not
only
the
commission,
one
of
our
former
members,
michael
smith,
did
a
lot
of
the
leg
work
on
developing
the
white
paper
which
is
attached
to
the
memo.
AC
D
AC
I
AC
R
R
R
AC
Thank
you
steve
and
thank
you
for
taking
a
few
minutes.
While
dave
gruben
came
to
my
rescue
here,
I'll
read
this
very
quickly.
It
says
bulma
position,
beaumont
international,
supports
voluntary
benchmarking
and
encourages
members
to
benchmark
their
buildings
at
least
annually,
using
epa's
energy,
star
portfolio
manager,
platform
or
other
similar
programs.
I
G
Next,
madam
mayor,
we
have
a
special
order:
business
number
three
dave,
stonebach
utilities
director-
will
do
some
introductions
and
his
direction
tonight
was
to
take
a
comprehensive
approach.
So
please
ask
questions,
will
probably
be
a
little
bit
before
we
come
back
on
water,
so
tonight
we'll
try
and
hit
everything
we
can
on
water
sales
as
well
as
water
infrastructure
and
some
of
our
other
projects
going
on
mr
stoneback.
N
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
alderman,
clerk,
green
and
marty,
lyons
with
me
tonight,
is
laura
biggs,
the
superintendent
of
construction
field
services
and
kirsten
reg,
the
utilities
project
manager.
They
will
be
coming
up
in
a
little
while
to
help
on
par
this
presentation
as
well.
N
We
do
that
by
maintaining
the
water
plant
in
the
evanston
distribution
system,
we
establish
fair
competitive
rates
and
protect
the
evans
and
ratepayers
by
using
our
cost
of
service
models,
we
actually
have
two
different
models
that
we
utilize,
one
is
to
generate
the
appropriate
rate
for
our
retail
customers
and
the
other
one
is
to
generate
appropriate
rates
for
our
wholesale
water
customers,
and
chris
and
reg
will
be
up
a
little
bit
to
show
some
slides
from
that
and
not
really
get
into
the
model
too
much.
N
These
models
are
based
on
the
american
waterworks
association
manual
for
rate
setting
it's
the
industry
standard
for
that
and
we're
very
fortunate
in
having
kristen
reagan
on
our
staff.
She
used
to
work
for
a
consultant
and
worked
on
doing
rate
models
for
different
municipalities,
including
this
planes
park,
ridge,
algonquin
and
wheeling
so
she's,
very
familiar
with
great
studies
and
she's.
Also
a
member
of
the
awa
committee
that
is
currently
updating
and
the
m1
manual.
N
Our
goals
are
to
maintain
a
minimum
of
3.5
million
dollars
in
the
water
fund,
and
that
is
to
have
a
million
and
a
half
in
working
capital,
a
million
for
rate
stabilization.
In
case
we
don't
sell
as
much
order
to
predict
in
the
budget
and
then
a
million
for
emergency
repairs.
If
we
have
a
major
failure
at
the
water
plant,
we
worked
with
the
cfo
marty
lines
to
develop
a
rule
that
we
don't
want
to
have
that
service
be
more
than
25
percent
of
our
operating
revenue.
N
You
might
be
familiar
that
in
the
sewer
fund,
we
actually
had
debt
service
being
close
to
90
percent
of
the
operating
revenue
on
time.
We
don't
want
that
to
occur
in
the
water
fund
and
we,
our
biggest
goal
in
evanston,
is
the
age
of
our
water
mains
and
we'll
get
in
that
a
little
bit
more.
So
we
want
to
continue
to
replace
a
mile
and
a
half
of
water
man
a
year
and
then
again
maintain
the
water
treatment
plant
in
good
operating
condition.
N
So
going
back
to
some
of
those
four
items,
we
actually
start
this
fiscal
year
quite
high
in
water
fund
balance
and
that's
because
one
of
our
major
projects-
painting
the
south
standpipe,
did
not
get
completed
last
year.
It's
going
to
get
completed
this
year,
so
we're
projecting
by
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
we'll
be
down
to
3.7
million
and
we'll
get
down
to
3.5
in
2016
as
we
undergo
some
more
major
capital
projects
at
the
water
plant.
N
That's
the
main
reason
that
we
sell
bonds
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
until
2028,
when
we'll
be
right
up
to
that
24
of
our
operating
fund,
and
then
it
will
begin
to
decrease
after
that
and-
and
we
hope
to
phase
out
having
to
borrow
money
to
replace
water
means.
That's
where
our
goal
is
to
increase
water
rates
using
different
methods
and
the
distribution
system
and
again
this
repairs
to
the
distribution
system
is
something
that
mainly
falls
on
the
retail
ratepayers
of
evanston.
N
And
so
we've
been
fortunate
that
since
2004,
we
have
met
our
goal
of
replacing
one
and
a
half
miles
of
water
main
a
year.
In
the
past
four
or
five
years,
we've
actually
hit
1.6
miles
in
2015.
We're
exceeding
that
again
we're
replacing
1.7
miles
and
we're
going
to
rehabilitate
approximately
three
quarters
of
a
mile
of
water
main
using
the
cipp
lining
process,
which
is
a
great
revenue
savings
for
us
using
that
project.
N
Also
in
the
distribution
system,
we
have
to
rehabilitate
the
two
stand
pipes
and
then
we've
actually
started
an
annual
leak
detection
program.
We
actually
look
for
leaks
using
sounding
devices
on
all
157
miles
of
water
main
a
year
and
that's
been
a
a
good
project
for
us.
N
We
believe
that
we
found
enough
leaks
last
year
and
repaired
them
that
we're
actually
saving
15
million
gallons
of
water
annually
by
fixing
the
leaks
that
we
found
by
doing
this
annual
survey
of
the
water
main.
So
last
year
was
our
first
time
getting
through
that
and
we
found
that
and
we
and
we
believe
that
was
a
great
program
for
us
as
well.
N
Water
plant
status
and
again,
projects
completed
at
the
water
plant
are
costs.
Those
projects
are
the
cost,
for
those
projects
are
shared
with
our
wholesale
water
customers.
So,
just
a
little
while
ago
I
talked
about
our
treated
water
storage
tank
and
how
our
wholesale
water
customer
pays
for
the
majority
of
that
debt
service,
and
that's
because
that
particular
wholesale
water
customer
uses
such
a
large
percentage
of
our
water.
N
But
we
have
completed
the
filter
upgrades.
We
replaced
our
scada
system
that
had
initially
been
installed
in
1982.
N
we
had
31
roofs
at
the
water
plant,
we're
you
know
where
the
entire
block
there,
between
sharon
and
lakefront
on
lincoln
street,
and
so
that's
a
major
project
for
us
that
we
have
to
continue
to
do.
And
then
we've
already
put
the
heated
intake
system
in
our
largest
intake
in
2010
and
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
putting
a
heated
intake
system
on
our
second
intake,
the
48
inch
intake
and
that
will
be
completed
this
year.
N
Other
initiatives
that
we're
taking
is
that
we've
signed
up
with
the
energy
rebate,
so
during
peak
energy
use
days
in
the
summertime,
we
get
a
call
from
our
supplier
asking
us
to
shed
our
load
and
we
stop
all
electricity
at
the
water
plant.
Basically,
and
we
run
the
pumps
on
our
natural
gas
engines
so
we're
able
to
shed
that
electric
load,
we
actually
brought
back
in
thirty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
last
year,
which
equates
to
about
five
percent
of
our
energy
costs.
N
By
doing
that
load,
chatting
metering
improvements,
we
put
a
new
master
meter
in
at
the
water
plant.
This
is
the
measures
to
order.
It
goes
out
into
the
evanson
and
skokie
distribution
systems,
so
we're
much
more.
We
have
much
better
faith
in
the
in
this
meter
reading
than
the
old
venturi
meter
that
had
been
installed
in
1948,
so
we
get
much
better
accuracy
of
the
water
leaving
the
water
plant
and
then
we
also
completed
the
mi
ami
project.
N
So
we
are
getting
better
data
on
retail
uses
at
the
14
400
customers
levels,
and
then
we
we
promote
water
conservation.
This
week
happens
to
be
fix
a
leak
week
nationally
across
and
if
you
go
to
any
the
municipal
buildings
you'll
be
able
to
to
get
free,
die
tabs
that
you
use,
you
put
them
in
the
tank
of
your
toilet,
and
if
you
see
green
water
coming
up
into
your
bowl,
you
know
you
have
a
leak.
There.
Toilets
are
the
largest
water
users
in
residential
homes.
N
Having
a
leak
in
the
toilet
is
is
a
cost
that
you
don't
want
to
have
to
bear.
So
I
encourage
everybody
to
go,
get
their
free
diet,
tabs,
throw
them
in
the
tank
of
your
toilet.
It
shows
up
in
your
bowl.
You
got
a
leak,
call
plumber,
get
it
fixed,
save
money,
save
water,
so
key
findings
about
the
water
fund,
we're
financially
sound.
We
have
the
lowest
retail
rate
in
in
cook
county.
This
evans
water
rate
is
2.92
cents,
a
thousand
gallons
for
comparison's
sake.
N
Wilmettes
is
three
dollars
and
33
cents,
skokies
is
4.78
and
the
city
of
chicago
is
3.81,
so
we're
we're
definitely
the
lowest
water
rate
in
cook
county
we
are
using
and
maintaining
our
target
cash
reserve.
The
water
fund
has
a
aaa
bond
rating
from
moody's
and
we
are
moving
towards
full
pricing
and,
while
maintaining
affordability
for
the
evans
and
ratepayers,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
introduce
laura
biggs
the
superintendent
of
construction
field
services
who
will
review
the
utilities
department's
capital
improvement
program
over
the
next
couple
years.
AD
AD
This
does
cost
us
about
three
and
a
half
million
dollars.
Construction
costs
have
been
increasing,
of
course,
as
construction
costs
do
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
more
innovative
ways
to
stretch
our
dollars
and
figure
out
how
to
leverage
our
funding
and
one
of
our
big
initiatives
now
is.
We
were
investigating
the
use
of
cured
and
placed
pipelining
to
rehabilitate
water
main.
AD
This
is
similar
to
what
we
do
for
the
sewer
on
a
regular
basis,
but
it
is
different
materials
in
a
slightly
different
process,
but
extremely
cost
effective
for
us,
and
so,
as
you
can
see
up
here
on
the
top
picture
we
have.
This
is
a
traditional
open,
cut
water
main
and
I'm
sure
that
a
lot
of
the
people
in
evanston
have
been
impacted
by
these
types
of
projects.
AD
They
are
typically
run
about
two
to
three
months,
they're
very
intrusive
to
the
street,
and
we
almost
always
follow
by
a
complete
street
resurfacing
because
it
is
so
destructive
to
the
street
surface.
But
last
year
we
pilot
tested
using
this
water
main
lining
on
washington
street
and
this
type
of
box.
You
see
two
of
these
pits,
one
at
each
end
of
the
street.
AD
The
work
is
done
in
between
them.
There
is
a
pipeline
that
is
run
temporarily
on
the
street
surface,
a
fraction
of
the
the
mess
there's
hardly
any
impact
in
terms
of
the
road
surface.
It
costs
about
30
percent
less
and
takes
maybe
half
as
long.
So
this
is
very
promising
for
being
able
to
leverage
some
of
our
water
main
funding.
AD
We
can't
use
it
everywhere.
It's
only
good,
for
instance,
if
you
are
not
going
to
increase
the
size
of
the
pipe
you're
going
with
the
same
size
pipe.
So
it's
not
an
a
one.
Size
fits
all
solution,
but
it
it
does
look
to
really
be
able
to
stretch
our
dollars
as
we
move
forward.
We
also
look
at
using
tiff
funding.
Where
possible,
we
did
davis
street
water
main
last
year
using
washington
to
national
tiff
money.
We
hope
to
do
the
chicago
avenue
water
main
project.
AD
We
would
love
to
use
iepa
funding
which
are
low
interest
loans
at
around
2.2
percent
this
year.
Although
the
interest
rate
changes,
it
is
difficult
for
water
main
work,
because
their
paperwork
requirements
are
are
tough
and
they
are
not
very
time
sensitive
to
our
schedules
so
with
the
water
main
so
closely
tied
to
the
summer.
Construction
and
the
street
resurfacing
schedule.
We
have
a
hard
time
with
ipa
loans,
so
we
we
try
to
focus
those
more
on
some
of
the
treatment
plant
work
we
have
going
on.
AD
However,
we
do
have
some
lining
projects
that
are
occurring
through
private
easements
that
aren't
that
we'd
like
to
do
that,
aren't
tied
to
street
resurfacing,
so
we're
going
to
put
in
a
loan
application
for
that
and
we
look
to
leverage
it
where
we
can.
AD
Sometimes
we
have
larger
projects
that
are
outside
the
bounds
of
our
annual
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
water
main
funding,
and
one
that
we
have
coming
up
is
the
30-inch
transmission
main
that
goes
between
the
treatment
plant
in
downtown
evanston.
This
map's
a
little
small
but
primarily
runs
here
along
sherman,
and
we
have
experienced
three
breaks
on
this
main
in
the
last
few
years.
AD
They
happened
very
nicely
during
daytime
hours
when
people
were
out
walking
their
dogs
and
saw
them
right
away,
and
so
we
were
able
to
jump
on
it
and
fix
it,
but
had
it
happen
in
the
middle
of
the
night
or
in
the
winter.
If
there
were
a
lot
of
snow
under
the
ground
on
the
ground
and
and
the
water
went
for
a
while
before
it
surfaced,
we
could
have
some
very
impactful
damage
from
a
30
inch
water
main
experiencing
a
break.
AD
AD
We
are
applying
for
an
iepa
loan,
but
now
that
we
are
experiencing
some
success
with
water
main
lining,
we
are
looking
at
doing
that
for
the
sherman
avenue
water
main
repair,
and
we
believe
that
we
would
save
over
a
million
dollars.
In
any
case,
this
is
the
type
of
project
that
we
pretty
much
would
only
address
if
we
could
get
the
iepa
funding
right
now,
because
it's
not
really
in
our
budget
to
be
able
to
afford
the
additional
expense.
AD
So
here's
a
summary
of
our
distribution
system,
cip,
you
could
see
the
annual
water
main
program
over
the
next
six
years
is
22
million
dollars,
although
that's
really
going
to
go
on
indefinitely
as
long
as
it
fits
within
our
budget
and
our
goals,
because
so
much
of
our
system
is
over
80
to
100
years
old,
the
standpipe
painting
repair.
We,
the
city
council,
approved
a
contract
on
that
recently,
the
we've
had
the
kickoff
meeting
right
now.
AD
AD
Now,
switching
gears
entirely
to
the
water
plants,
cip.
These
are
some
of
our
large
projects
we
have
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
The
reliability
improvements
is
the
most
vague
sounding,
and
that
is
because
it
is
a
a
mix
of
a
number
of
things
all
designed
that
are
small
on
their
own,
but
all
designed
to
improve
maintenance,
reliability
at
the
water
plant,
so
it's
actually
sort
of
planned
to
be
in
two
phases.
The
first
phase
has
to
do
with
two
items.
AD
We
have
a
flash
mix
where
chemicals
are
added
at
the
beginning
of
the
treatment
process,
and
this
while
it
has
been
working
okay
is
actually
undersized
for
the
capacity
of
our
treatment
plant
and
there's
only
one
of
them.
So
if
it
goes
out
of
service,
we
have
a
bypass
pipeline,
but
we
don't
really
have
a
backup
flash
mix.
AD
It's
it's
operated
again:
okay,
when
we've
had
to
take
it
out
of
service,
but
it's
not
ideal,
so
we're
looking
at
reconfiguring
it
and
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
two
chambers
or
something
to
that
effect,
where
it's
both
of
a
higher
capacity
and
there's
a
backup
if
something
needs
to
be
taken
out
of
service
and
the
second
part
of
our
phase.
One
improvements
are
sort
of
miscellaneous
various
valves
that
are
larger
diameter
located
around
the
treatment
plant,
but
because
they
are
larger
diameter
and
they
need
rehabilitation
or
replacement.
AD
AD
AD
AD
And
then
the
final
project
we
show
up
there
is
our
in
is
to
replace
one
of
our
intakes.
We
have
three
that
each
go
about
a
mile
out
into
the
lake.
The
oldest
one
was
built
in
1909.
It
is
a
combination
of
36
inch
and
42
inch
diameter
cast
iron
pipe
and
it's
really
not
an
ideal
condition.
It's
it's
just
generally
had
some
problems.
It's
filled
in
with
a
lot
of
debris.
AD
We
always
have
long
term
plans,
in
fact,
to
see
the
to
do
the
rate
modeling
that
we
do
on
our
rates.
We
actually
try
to
run
approximately
20
to
30
years
on
our
cip,
and
that
can
be
hard
to
predict,
but
we
do
have
some
projects
that
we've
called
out
over
the
next
10
years,
doing
settling
base
and
concrete
rehabilitation,
more
structural
crack
repairs
that
have
been
outlined
from
past
inspections.
AD
Mechanical
system
upgrades,
hvac
improvements,
fixing
an
elevator,
that's
just
older,
that
needs
to
be
rehabilitated
and
putting
sprinkler
systems
in
in
various
locations
in
the
treatment
plant.
The
electrical
system
upgrade
is
to
replace
some
electrical
equipment,
that's
becoming
obsolete
just
because
of
its
age,
low,
lift
and
high
lift
pump
improvements.
AD
Most
of
our
large
pumps
are
60
to
65
years
old,
and
so
at
some
point
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
some
rehabilitation
or
replacement
of
these
pumps
and
even
though
they
are
very
well
maintained
by
our
treatment
plant
staff
and
generally,
we
have
found
that
we're
running
a
cip
at
the
water
plant
only
of
about
three
million
dollars
a
year,
barring
something
like
the
1934
reservoir
situation.
That
happened,
and
so
for
purposes
of
estimating
our
cip
out
in
the
future.
AD
AE
Good
evening
mayor
tisdale,
alderman
and
clerk
greene,
my
name
is
kristen
ray.
I
have
become
the
custodian
of
the
utilities,
department's
retail
and
wholesale
rate
models
over
the
last
few
years,
so
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
very
broad
highlights
of
how
we
use
these
very
complex
spreadsheets
to
predict
both
the
water
or
the
the
retail
and
the
wholesale
water
rates
out
several
years
in
advance.
So
you
may
recall
seeing
this
screen
previously.
AE
It
was
presented
back
in
2008
by
malcolm
purney,
which
is
the
consulting
firm
that
built
this
model
as
part
of
a
rate
study
for
evanston.
AE
AE
AE
The
only
the
only
input
here
in
the
dashboard
screen
is
near
the
top,
where
you
can
manually
input.
The
water
rate
increases
from
year
to
year
what
you
see
in
2016
and
2017
they're
blank,
because
the
model
actually
calculates
that,
based
on
what
we
know
and
what
we
project
at
this
time,
that
no
water,
retail
water
rate
increases
would
be
needed
in
those
two
years.
AE
And
then
you
can
see
from
2018
to
2024.
There
are
increases
in
just
about
every
year
and
those
increases
are
precisely
tailored
to
match.
The
projected
decreases
in
the
sewer
rate
in
those
years,
because
we
have
a
model
that
looks
just
like
this.
That's
for
the
sewer
fund
and
as
the
debt
for
the
long
range
sewer
program
starts
to
roll
off
over
the
next
few
years.
It's
projected
that
the
sewer
rate
can
decrease,
because
a
lot
of
that
revenue
is
just
to
pay
debt,
and
so,
at
the
same
time,
we
look
at
offsetting.
AE
Water
rate
increases
the
primary
goal
there
being
to
increase
cash
funding
for
annual
water
main
replacements.
So,
as
dave
talked
about
that,
we're
not
relying
so
much
on
debt
in
the
long
term
that
we
can
start
to
take
that
debt
burden
down
over
time.
AE
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
top
left
graph
there,
that
looks
kind
of
boring
to
look
at,
but
it
tells
a
good
story.
That's
the
the
water
fund,
cash
balance,
the
cash
reserve
so
where
all
those
bars
are
lining
up,
is
3.5
million
dollars.
So
when
we
take
all
the
inputs
in
this
model
and
it
chugs
out
the
end
result
from
year
to
year,
that's
what
it
looks
like.
So
it's
showing
what
the
water
fund
balance
would
be
at
the
end
of
each
fiscal
year.
AE
If
you
go
one
graph
to
the
right,
that
is
the
anticipated
capital
project
spending
in
each
year.
That's
the
total
spending.
It
doesn't
care
where
we
get
the
money
from
that's
just
the
total
we're
planning
to
spend.
You
see
the
spikes
related
to
some
of
the
larger
water
treatment
plant
projects
that
lara
just
talked
about,
and
then,
if
you
go
one
more
graph
below
that,
the
bottom
right
annual
debt
service
you'll
see
similar
spikes
corresponding
to
those
larger
projects.
AE
However,
as
as
dave
talked
about
when
he
presented
on
the
treated
water
storage
project,
the
northwest
water
commission,
their
rate
would
actually
fund
quite
a
bit
of
the
debt
service
for
the
treated
water
storage
project,
and
we
can
expect
this
a
similar
situation
to
be
true
for
other
large
water
plant
projects.
So
this
graph
is
a
bit
deceiving
because
it
doesn't
reflect
where
the
revenue
is
coming
from
to
pay
off
all
the
debt.
AE
It's
just
showing
the
total
debt,
but
in
the
end
we
have
to
be
considerate
of
our
total
debt,
because
it
is
an
indicator
of
the
water
fund's
financial
health.
The
primary
contributor
to
that
debt
service
that
impacts
the
evanston
retail
rate
pairs
is
again
the
annual
water
main
replacement
program,
and
so
that's
what
the
the
future
water
rate
increases
projected
here
are
intended
to
offset
and
eventually
eliminate
the
need
for
that
debt
each
year.
AE
AE
G
Alderman
rainey
I
just
want
to
follow
up.
This
is
just
a
drill
home
the
point.
This
is
the
system
we
had
in
2008
and
then
at
the
council's
direction.
It
was
to
move
rate
setting
in-house,
and
so
we
have
gone
to
great
lengths
to
develop
this
expertise
in-house,
as
opposed
to
hiring
consultants
and
I've
been
treated
to
this
show
every
year
for
the
past
four
years,
so
that
I
know
exactly
where
we're
at
as
far
as
long-term
funding.
G
So
it
is
a
very
sophisticated
model
that
we
can
adjust
based
on
what
you
just
referenced.
If
we
go
into
the
wholesale
water
business
at
a
larger
scale,
are
the
models
fully
capable
of
helping
us
determining
long-term
debt,
capital,
etc?.
I
Well,
while
frequently
as
some
people
accuse
us
of
the
water
department,
reports
and
presentations
are
so
perfect
and
so
intense
that
sometimes
we
don't
all
understand
everything,
but
I'll
tell
you
this,
I
feel
very
confident
about
our
water
department.
Just
it
just
feels
like
you're,
absolutely
telling
us
exactly
what
we
need
to
know,
and
I
appreciate
that.
AB
AE
N
For
the
sake
of
time,
we
had
lots
three
more
slides
here.
This
is
where
we
input
the
rates
from
the
wholesale
water
customer.
This
is
just
showing
that
our
major
capital
projects
are
all
part
of
this
program
as
well,
and
then
what
I'd
like
to
get
into
now
is
our
wholesale
water
sales
update
for
you
and
discuss
that
for
a
little
bit
for
you.
N
Actually,
kristen
will
be
back
up
in
a
little
bit,
because
that
rate
model
was
only
for
our
retail
customers
and
we
have
a
whole
different
cost
of
service
model
for
our
wholesale
water
customers.
So
currently
we
have
northwest
water
commission
in
skokie
as
wholesale
water
customers,
you
can
see
how
much
water
they
use
and
again
the
northwest
water
commission
has
signed
a
contract
to
supply
water
to
this
planes
that
we
hope
will
start
to
occur
this
summer.
They
have
to
build
a
pipeline
between
the
commission's
reservoir
and
des
plaines
as
a
reservoir.
N
It's
not
that
long.
It
should
occur
this
summer
and
when
does
the
commission
add
susplains?
The
commission
will
wind
up
taking
about
64
percent
of
the
water
that
evanston
produces
and
the
revenue
will
increase
by
about
550
000
in
the
2015
budget,
the
northwest
water
commission.
N
We
anticipate
receiving
5.3
million
dollars
in
revenue
of
sale
water
to
the
northwest
water
commission,
so
it
would
go
up
a
little
bit
and
again,
the
our
wholesale
rate
to
the
commission
is
somewhere
around
60
to
65
cents,
a
thousand
gallons,
but
believe
me,
nobody
gets
it
that
cheap,
the
lowest
customer,
the
lowest
municipality
rate
is
pal
time,
they're
charging
3.48
cents
to
their
real
retail
customers.
So
there's
a
markup
as
the
water
gets
out
there.
N
Skokie
recent
contract
was
signed
in
1997.
It
will
expire
in
2017.
Currently,
their
rate
is
not
based
on
the
awa
manual.
N
Their
annual
increases
are
based
on
an
average
of
the
consumer
price
index
and
the
producers
price
index
with
a
minimum
of
two
percent,
a
maximum
of
eight
percent
and
all
we've
gotten
over
the
past
28
years
is
two
percent
annual
increase
which
did
not
keep
up
with
where
we
should
be,
and
that's
why
we've
already
proposed
to
them
in
two
or
three
meetings
that
our
next
contract
in
2017
will
be
based
on
a
wwa
manual,
they're,
currently
being
charged
a
dollar
and
four
cents,
a
thousand
gallons.
N
But
again
the
residents
that
live
in
skokie
are
being
charged
four
dollars
and
seventy
eight
dollars
a
thousand
gallons.
The
projected
revenue
from
skokie
in
the
2015
budget
is
close
to
three
million
dollars.
N
Evanston
the
projected
revenue
from
evanston
retail
ratepayers
is
almost
seven
million
dollars
and
again
we're
charging
them
two
dollars
and
ninety
two
cents,
a
thousand
gallons
and
the
reason
they're.
The
most
expensive
is
because
they
have
to
pay
for
our
distribution
system
infrastructure,
which
the
northwest
water
commission
does
not
have
to
do
and
skokie
if
they're
on
the
proper
rate
would
only
have
to
pay
for
a
small
portion
of
it.
N
Approximately
22
percent
of
the
12
inch
and
larger
means
we've
had
off
and
on
discussions
with
lincolnwood
discussions
picked
up
again
within
the
past
six
months,
or
so
they
kept
trying
to
find
ways
that
we
could
reduce
our
water
proposed
water
rate
to
them.
N
The
way
that
we
are
now
proposing
it
is
to
shorten
the
length
of
the
transmission
main
that
would
be
in
the
evanston
boundary
that
supplies
water
to
lincoln
with
so
the
initial
plant
had
a
transmission
main
coming
from
our
south
standpipe
site
at
cleveland
and
hartree,
and
going
south
on
hartree
through
james
park
back
on
the
archery
to
howard
street
and
then
to
the
evanston
border.
N
We
now
came
back
with
a
revised
cost
said.
Transmission
main
would
only
be
in
evanston
from
the
south
standpipe
to
oakton
street
and
then
to
the
city
border,
so
that
reduced
their
rate,
our
proposed
rate
from
two
dollars
and
thirty,
seven
cents,
a
thousand
gallons
to
two
dollars
and
five
cents,
a
thousand
gallons.
N
I
don't
know
what
else
we
can
do
to
entice
them.
Our
calculations
show
that
they
would
save
and
a
million
dollars
over
a
30-year
contract
in
comparison
purchasing
water
from
chicago
which
they
currently
do.
Their
contract
with
chicago
expires
december
31st
of
2019.
So
I
would
say
by
the
middle
of
2017:
they
have
to
decide
what
they're
going
to
have
to
do
or
they're
going
to
wind
up
staying
with
chicago,
because
they
won't
get
the
infrastructure
in
place
to
receive
water
from
anybody
else.
So
they
still
have
a
couple
years
to
make
their
decision.
N
Our
our
next
potential
customers
are
niles
and
morton
grove.
They
are
engaged
in
comparing
officers
offers
from
both
evanston
and
wilmet
glenview.
Just
today,
as
of
four
o'clock,
I
was
informed
that
they
have
rescinded
their
offer
to
supply
water
to
miles.
So
I
didn't
have
time
to
change
the
slide,
but
miles
and
more
and
grove
are
fully
engaged
right.
Now
they
they've
hired
an
engineering
firm
which
is
reviewing
design
offers
there
they've
hired
a
management
consultant
they've
hired
legal
counsel
to
help
them
determine
which
route
they
should
go
as
they
move
forward.
N
They
initially
told
us
that
they
plan
to
make
a
decision
by
the
end
of
march,
but
now
it
looks
like
they
plan
to
make
a
decision
by
mid-may
the
glenview
wilmette
offer,
as
I
understood
it
prior
to
four
o'clock
today,
was
that
they
were
going
to
sell
water
to
that
to
these
two
communities
at
roughly
two
dollars
and
fifty
six
cents
a
thousand
gallons,
and
that
they
would
have
about
forty
million
dollars
in
capital
expenditures
to
make
that
connection.
N
If
it's
just
these
two
communities,
we
think
that
evanston
would
be
able
to
provide
water
to
them
for
a
dollar
three
cents.
A
thousand
gallons,
but
they'd
have
to
invest
92
million
dollars
to
build
the
transmission
main
to
connect
to
evanston.
N
So
that's
the
challenge
that
they're
looking
at
and
if
it
is
just
these
two
communities,
it
might
be
advantageous
for
evanston
to
offer
to
help
finance
some
of
the
debt
service
associated
with
the
transmission
main,
and
that
would
help
sweeten
the
deal
and
be
able
potentially
to
make
have
them
make
their
decision
to
come
to
evanston.
N
However,
the
biggest
deal
that
would
sweeten
the
pot
for
them
is
if
we
could
persuade
park
ridge
to
be
part
of
this
wholesale
water
consortium,
as
well
as
this
graphic
indicates.
If
they
go
to
glenview,
will
met
each
martin,
grove
and
isles
each
save
about
575
thousand
dollars.
If
they
were
come
to
evanston,
it's
only
those
two
communities,
a
morton
grove-
could
save
680
000
miles
could
save
430
000.
But
if
you
notice
the
bottom
line,
if
park
ridge
is
involved,
those
two
communities
would
save.
N
N
The
tips
aren't
generating
the
revenue
and
they've
already
sold
bonds,
so
they're
they're
kind
of
under
under
order
with
that
is
that
a
bun
or
what
anyway,
so
again
evanson,
I
believe,
could
be
in
a
real
good
position
to
help
make
all
this
happen,
if
evanston
would
be
willing
to
participate
in
the
funding
of
the
the
water
main,
if
all
three
communities
are
involved
again,
I'm
looking
at
the
bottom
line,
the
cost
of
the
transmission
mean
rises
to
115
million
dollars.
N
This
is
based
on
a
study
completed
by
mwh
in
2014,
with
these
partners,
helping
us
to
figure
all
this
out
and
the
the
block
or
of
the
cost
falls
to
park
ridge,
and
that
is
because
park
ridge
is
the
largest
water,
water,
user
and
they're
the
furthest
from
the
city
of
evanston.
So
their
portion
of
the
transmission
main
is
roughly
50
million
dollars.
G
I
just
wanted
to
draw
a
couple
of
comparisons
in
in
this
day
and
age,
it's
difficult
to
talk
about
debt
issuance
post
2008,
but
I
would
draw
the
comparison
to
what
this
governing
board
did
in
the
1990
in
the
early
90s,
with
the
sewer
project,
embarking
on
that
200
million
dollars
nearly
in
debt
that
is
now
down
below
100
million
or
150.,
so
well
we're.
So
our
our
annual
payments
is
next
year's,
where
we
go
down
to
10
or
11
million
from
14
million.
G
So
we've
just
hit
the
the
the
downward
slope
and
then
also
what
the
city
did
in
the
in
the
downtown.
You
had
two
major
parking
decks.
They
were
all
paid
for
through
non-property
tax
supported
debt.
That's
what
we
are
looking
at
here,
so
we're
not
running
out
to
do
this
or
recommending
we
run
out
to
do
this.
But
when
evanston
has
led
in
capital
areas,
it
has
paid
off
in
the
past.
N
And
I'd
like
to
continue
to
by
showing
this
is
the
rate
just
for
water.
So
again,
glenn
you
will
met
prior
to
four
o'clock.
Today
they
were
offering
to
sell
water
at
two
dollars
and
fifty
six
cents,
a
thousand
gallons.
N
If
evans
was
willing
to
sell
to
morton
grove
and
niles
only
for
a
dollar
three
cents,
a
thousand
gallons.
But
if
park
ridge
is
involved
due
to
the
economy,
then
the
rate
would
go
down
to
92
cents,
a
thousand
gallons,
but
when,
on
top
of
that,
then
the
municipalities
have
to
worry
about
the
debt
payment
on
the
money
that
they
borrow
to
build
the
transmission
main
and
and
then
so.
N
Morton,
grove
and
niles
are
shown
for
the
will
mclenview
case,
and
then
evanson
is
also
shown
for
morton
grove
and
miles
and
again
that
so
that
33
39
includes
a
dollar
three
cents
plus
then
two
dollars
or
whatever
it
is
for
the
debt
service
associated
with
paying
off
the
construction
and
transmission
me.
If
we
get
park
ridge
involved,
what
we
would
do
is
we.
We
anticipate
that
the
communities,
morton,
grove
and
miles
would
pay
their
own
debt
service,
but
evanson
would
actually
wind
up
charging
parkridge
three
dollars
and
eighteen
cents,
a
thousand
gallons.
N
That
would
be
the
the
ninety
two
cents
to
purchase
the
water
two
dollars
and
twenty
six
cents
to
to
pay
for
the
debt
service
and
10
cents
extra
to
get
the
coverage
on
the
bonds.
That
evanson
would
then
keep
so
and
then
niles
and
morton
grove
could
also
charge
an
additional
16
cents
to
help
their
portion
of
paying
for
the
main,
and
yet
that
334
compared
to
chicago
is
currently
charging
381.
N
We
think
in
2018,
when
we
think
we
would
start
providing
water.
The
chicago
rate
would
be
up
to
four
dollars
and
four
cents,
a
thousand
gallons
and
that's
how
park
ridge
can
still
save
a
million
dollars
a
year
by
purchasing
water
with
niles
morton
grove
and
getting
it
from
evanston.
So
that's
the
risk
that
we
would
run.
Is
that
and
I
don't
know
how
much
of
a
risk
it
is
because
they're
always
going
to
take
water.
N
Our
projections
show
a
decreasing
use
in
water
from
these
communities
as
well,
because
we
realize
evanston
using
less
water
with
all
the
water
conservation
devices
that
are
being
installed.
So
we
took
a
very
conservative
look
at
the
water
usage
and
tied
that
to
how
much
the
bonding
would
be
to
build
the
transmission
main,
and
we
believe
that
a
financial
backers
would
be
in
favor
of
this.
N
So
that's
what
we
were
proposed
to
and
on
march
30th,
there
is
a
meeting
in
park
ridge
in
which
martin
grove
and
niles
and
their
consultant
are
presenting
to
parkridge
I'll,
be
at
that
meeting
as
well,
and
I
would
encourage
you
that
if
you
are
in
agreement
with
evanston
proposing
to
help
with
the
financing
of
the
transmission
main,
that
you
contact
the
mayors
from
warren
grove
miles
and
parkridge,
and
let
them
know
that
isn't
just
staff.
N
That's
behind
this
that
the
the
city
council
is
weighing
and
considering
this
and
making
that
known
to
them
as
well,
so
it
isn't
just
what
I'm
telling
them
it's!
What
the
city
of
evanston
is
telling.
N
Thank
you
and
then.
Lastly,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
northwest,
suburban
municipal
jawa.
This
is
seven
communities
in
western
cook,
county,
mount
prospect,
elk
grove
hanover
park,
rolling
meadows,
schaumburg
hoffman
estates
and
streamwood.
N
N
We've
had
three
meetings
with
nimzy
java
and
the
northwest
water
commission.
So
part
of
this
is
getting
those
two
organizations
together
to
maybe
join
forces,
and
if
they
did
that,
then
it
makes
sense,
because
the
northwest
water
commission
wants
to
have
redundant
pipeline
out
to
their
reservoir
and
there's
ample
space
at
their
site
that
they
own
in
des
plaines
that
they
could
increase
the
reservoir
capacity
out
there
build
another
pumping
station
and
be
able
to
provide
water
to
the
jawa
as
well.
N
So
that's
what
we're
we've
been
discussing.
The
executive
director
from
the
jawa
has
indicate
that
he
hopes
to
make
a
decision
on
a
recommendation.
His
board
sometime
in
the
mid
2015
range
because
they
realize
that
if
they
move
forward
with
this,
they
have
big
capital
expensive.
They
will
not.
Their
current
facilities
on
o'er,
airport
and
chicago
has
told
them
that
they
would
not
be
allowed
to
use
that
site.
N
They
would
have
to
get
a
new
site,
which
is
why
the
northwest
water
commission
would
work
so
they'd
have
to
build
the
infrastructure
at
a
new
site.
They'd
have
to
build
a
large
transmission
main
out
to
that
site,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
doing
with
that,
and
so
their
contract
with
chicago
expires
in
2022.
G
Mr
stonebrick
also
isn't
a
lot
of
this.
These
costs
that
you're
just
enumerating
would
be
the
second
time
around
for
these
agencies.
They
did
it
all
once
before,
and
now
all
their
bonds
are
paid
off.
So
it's
not
as
if
they're
embarking
on
something
that
they've
never
done
before.
It's
just
a
matter
of
trying
to
look
forward
again
for
them
because
of
the
change
in
the
climate,
with
city
of
chicago
rates,
changing.
N
And
I
I
forget,
if
they're
the
second
or
the
third
largest
customer
for
the
city
of
chicago,
and
they
really
been
trying
to
use,
you
know
their
weight
and
how
much
water
they
take
and
get
a
deal
with
the
city
of
chicago
to
say.
Just
tell
us
that
you'll
raise
the
rates
by
the
cost,
indexed
consumer
price
index
and
chicago
won't
do
that
by
ordinance.
N
It's
still
up
to
the
whim
of
the
city
council
at
any
time
which,
as
we
know
in
the
past
several
years,
they've
had
significant
rates.
It's
been
114
percent
over
the
past
eight
to
ten
years,
so
they're
frustrated
that
chicago
won't
guarantee
rate
increases
and
so
they're
they're
anxious
to
have
somebody
will
show
you
know
using
the
awa
mechanism
of
setting
rates
establishing
rates
as
a
way
of
certainty
for
them.
I'm
just
going
to
go
into
this
next
one,
although
kristen
was
supposed
to
I'm
just
going
to
wrap
it
up
here,
real
quick.
N
This
is
our
other
cost
of
service
mile.
This
is
the
one
that
we
use
to
establish
wholesale
rates.
The
the
we
use
this
one
to
determine
how
much
revenue
we're
going
to
get
from
the
other
wholesale
water
customers
and
then
that
backs
into
what
the
revenue
requirement
is
for
the
evanston
retail
customers
and
we
plug
that
into
the
first
model
and
we
devise
what's
the
appropriate
rate
for
the
evanson
customers.
N
N
Eighty
eight,
it's
the
accumulated
depreciation
of
thirty
three
thousand
three
hundred
dollars,
so
it
has
a
net
net
book
value
right
now
of
only
eleven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
and
the
cost
to
replace
it
is
estimated
at
five
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
So
these
are
all
costs
that
are
really
important
when
we
go
to
establish
rates
with
our
wholesale
water
customers.
N
So
you
can
see
that
the
original
cost
sums
up
to
be
a
lot
less
than
the
replacement
cost,
which
is
why
evanson's
suggesting
that
we
have
a
50
50
blend
of
original
cost
and
replacement
cost
as
we
move
forward
and
then
just
summarizing
this.
This
is
hypothetical
that
we
were
successful
in
getting
lincolnwood,
more
grove,
niles
and
parkridge
based
on
our
2015
budget,
and
you
can
see
how
all
the
costs
are
associated
with
the
different
municipalities.
N
Skokie's
doesn't
take
nearly
the
order
that
the
commission
does,
but
because
they
get
the
water
through
our
transmission
system,
they
have
to
help
pay
for
that.
So
that's
why
they
generate
more
money
as
well.
Lincoln
wood
shown
there,
martin
grove,
niles
and
park
bridge
and
that
and
then
the
remainder
that
three
million
seven
thirty
is
what
the
evanson
real
retail
rate
payers
would
have
to
pay
and
that's
what
we
plug
back
into
our
other
cost
of
service
model
determine
the
appropriate
rates
for
the
evans
and
ratepayers.
N
So
thank
you
for
your
time
on
this
really
got
to
be
a
long
night.
I'm
sorry
you're
here
so
late.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
I'll
be
glad
to
ask
or
answer
them.
F
Dave
and
and
your
team,
as
always
thank
you
you're,
you
really
just
do
an
amazing
job
and
many
charts.
I
have
no
idea
how
you
put
them
together,
but
what
I
want
to
say
is
thank
you
for
thinking
creatively
about
how
to
make
this
work
for
our
long-term
future.
I
I
believe
it's
it's
extremely
important
that
we
think
outside
of
the
the
standard,
business
practice
and
you're
absolutely
doing
that
and
using
our
credits
that
we've
done
over
the
years
to
build
strong
to
our
advantage.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
N
Don't
know
for
certain,
I
do
know
that
niles
are
selling
water
to
glenview,
to
supply
a
small
area
called
north
main
north
main
and
there's
been
some
contention
between
those
two
municipalities
about
the
rate
that
niles
was
charging.
I
believe
there
was
a
lawsuit
and
so
and
I'm
not
100
sure
I'd
be
speculating.
I
don't
have
the
well.
I
G
I'm
sorry,
madam
mayor
final
agenda
item
still
on
the
still
to
go,
is
a
discussion
regarding
a
resolution
to
be
presented
to
the
governor
elder
capricioso
has
a
short
presentation.
AF
AF
AF
16.,
let
me
get
back
there,
the
second,
whereas
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
are
concerned
that
without
the
lgdf,
the
city
may
have
to
explore
an
increase
in
local
taxes.
While
I
agree
with
that,
I
also
don't
think
that
that's
persuasive
in
the
context,
because
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
care.
AF
AF
Right,
I
I
just
I
feel
like
it's
I
feel
like
it
might
be
more
persuasive
to
not
have
those
two
and-
and
you
all
might
disagree,
but
I
thought
that
perhaps
what
we
might
be
missing
is
a,
whereas
that
says
something
along
the
lines
of
whereas-
and
this
is
finger
pointing
more
specifically,
whereas
a
reduction
in
the
lgdf
would
place
an
undue
burden
on
the
city
to
address
the
state
budget
challenges,
because
I
think
that's
really
what
it
is,
and
I
think
that
that's
what
we're
doing
is
is
we're
trying
to
address
an
unfair
burden,
that's
being
placed
on
us.
AF
D
AF
D
I
Alderman
rainey
did
right.
I
would
like
to
speak
to
that.
You
know
I.
I
don't
care
what
you
add
to
this,
but
those
two
lines,
those
two,
whereas
have
absolutely
no
detrimental
effect
on
this
resolution.
It's
an
absolute
fact:
it's
the
truth,
and
I
don't
obviously
the
governor
doesn't
care
about
any
of
it
anyway.
So
leave
it
in
and
add
yours.
So
I'm
going
to
move
that
we
divide
the
question
that
you've
raised.
I
AF
I
think
you
know
the
the
the
mayor
I
think
attended
and-
and
I
think
perhaps
alderman
rainey-
you
were
there
as
well.
I
wasn't
there
but
I've
heard
about
it,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
the
governor
was
essentially
accusing
the
municipalities
of
not
living
within
their
means,
and
I
think
that
we,
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
we've
really
gone
to
extraordinary
efforts
to
do
that.
We
absolutely
have
done
that
and
I
guess
what
I
don't
want
to
have.
Is
somebody
throw
those
two
paragraphs
back
at
us.
I
AF
Yeah,
so
just
my
first
motion
is:
whereas
resolute
the
add
the
language
I
just
read:
okay,.
D
All
right
so
we're
going
to
vote
on
adding
the
language
that
alderman
wilson
just
gave
us
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
right
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
D
I
D
AF
So
I'll
move
that
we
pass
the
resolution
as
amended.
D
All
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
the
eyes,
have
it
and
we're
going
to
forego
the
budget
so.
D
All
right-
and
everybody
has
no
report-
is
that
correct
all
right,
then
alderman
wilson
do
you
have
a
motion
for
us.
AF
I
do,
pursuant
to
five
illinois
compiled
statutes,
ilcs
120
2a.
I
move
that
the
city
council
convene
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
item
and
agenda
item
regarding
minutes.
This
agenda
item
is
a
permitted
subject
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
is
an
enumerated
exception.
Under
the
open
meetings
act.
The
exception
is
five
ilcs
120,
slash,
2
c
21.