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B
Oh,
I
didn't
realize
we
weren't
live
streaming.
Sorry
about
that
charles
yeah.
I
didn't
find
anything
either
doug
any
concerns
with
you.
It.
B
Great,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
move
the
minutes
and
accept
them?
Thank
you.
Leslie
seconded
by
doug,
all
those
in
favor,
okay
and
those
minutes
are
accepted
unanimously
and
there's
sure.
D
B
Yeah
all
right,
so
why
don't
we
just
then
move
hi
charlotte?
Why
don't
we
just
move
along
then
to
new
business?
Nelson?
We
have
one
item
which
is
the
assignment
of
the
lease
under
the
cherry
street
industrial
park.
So
do
you
want
to
kind
of
pick
up
that.
E
Yes,
give
us
an
overview,
and
I
think
yep,
and
I
think
I
see
doug
firth
and
his
attorney
peter
grossman
are
have
joined
the
meeting
right.
This
is
a
you
know,
largely
are.
F
E
Seeing
issue
the
the
least
we
have
between
the
ethical
urban
renewal
agency
and
precision
filters
is
a
lease
purchase
agreement.
It
goes
for
99
years
we
set
the
the
buyout
price
at
the
assessed
value
of
the
real
estate
at
the
time
that
the
initial
lease
was
executed
and
the
the
late
lessees
have
an
opportunity
to
acquire
the
lease
at
any
time.
E
They
also
heard
the
agreement
have
the
right
to
assign
the
lease
the
I
within
reason
the
ira
can
is
required
to
approve
it,
but
cannot
unreasonably
withhold
consent
to
assign
the
lease.
In
this
case,
precision
filters
has
met
their
obligations
in
the
original
agreement
to
construct
the
building
and
operate
a
facility.
E
I
think
they're
our
oldest
longest
running
operation
for
circa
1980
and
continue
to
operate
the
facility
there
and
they've
requested
an
assignment
to
a
but
a
new,
a
new
company,
which
was,
I
understand
it
would
acquire
the
assets
but
would
continue
to
operate
essentially
without
changes
at
the
site
and
I'm
recommending
in
the
resolution
that
that
be
approved
with
with
a
couple
of
contingencies.
E
At
this
point
in
time
it
seems
like
it's
a
a
a
proposal
that
hasn't
quite
been
completed
in
terms
of
moving
forward
with
it
or
not,
but
certainly
they're
moving
that
direction.
So
you
see
the
resolution
is
a
recommendation
to
authorize
the
assignment
to
the
new
company
pursuant
to
the
lease
agreement.
B
G
Yeah
this
is
doug
firth,
I'm
the
president
and
ceo
of
precision
filters.
As
nels
said,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
to
sell
the
company
in
the
form
of
an
asset
purchase.
G
The
group
that's
acquiring
the
company
intends
to
operate.
The
company
at
our
cherry
street
facility
keep
all
our
employees
here.
I
will
continue
to
be
the
president
and
ceo
of
the
company
for
the
foreseeable
future
and
the
choir
intends
to
to
grow
our
company.
So
I
think
it's
a
a
very
good
thing
for
for
ithaca
in
general,
and
we
hope
that
you
will
vote
to
to
assign
the
lease
agreement
to
the
new
entity.
B
Great
well,
it
sounds
really
exciting
for
you
guys
dad.
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
from
anybody
on
the
committee
about
the
resolution
or
kind
of
where
things
are
going.
G
Well,
you
know
the
what
we're
talking
about
now
is
operating
in
place,
they're
interested
in
the
property,
the
size
of
the
size
of
the
lot,
how
we
would
expand
out
the
footprint
should
we
need
more
manufacturing
space.
G
There's
been
no
talk
of
at
all
of
of
moving
the
company
anywhere
but
doug,
as
you
know,
once
they
acquire
the
company
they're
free
to
do
with
what
they
want,
and
I
I
certainly
can't
make
any
promises
to
the
future,
but
never
has
that.
Come
up
we're
only
talking
about
operating
and
expanding
the
company
on
on
the
current
site,.
E
Yeah
the
lease
is
a
99
year
lease
signed
in
1980,
so
it
could
continue
for
the
long
term
and
again,
if
they
see
the
benefit,
they
can
acquire
it
at
their
at
their
discretion.
Any
time
any
time
before
that
united
lease
expires.
A
And
if
the,
if
the
new
company
did
decide,
hey
we're
going
to
go
to
wherever
it
stan,
what
would
then
happen
now.
E
Well,
they'd
have
to
decide
whether
they
were
going
to
renew
the
lead.
You
know
continue
with
the
lease
or
or
exercise
the
acquisition.
I
it's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
investment
on
the
property
and
the
in
the
you
know,
the
purchase
price
is
relatively
modest,
so
I
would
expect
anybody
considering
you
know.
I
would
expect
that
anybody
would
consider
to
acquire
it.
This
is
one
of
our
early
leases
when
we
did
99
year
leases.
E
We
we
got
a
little
bit
smarter
and
did
20-year
leases
10
years
later,
so
so
that
we
push
people
to
you
know
acquire
the
real
estate
rather
than
you
know,
at
least
at
a
very
low
rate.
It
did
work
out
well
to
incentivize
folks
and
save
them.
Some
upfront
costs,
but
nine
nine
year
leases,
you
know,
is
a
long
long
period
of
time.
At
this
point,
there's
no
payments
due
on
it
other
than
an
administrative
fee.
Once
I
think
it's
once
a
year,
so
it's
really
it's
just
a
you
know.
E
Probably
a
financial.
You
know
present
value
cost
of
of
buying
it
out
at
this
point
and
the
companies
you
know
given
given
a
straight
financial
analysis,
probably
say
well,
why
don't
I
wait
till
you're
98
before
buying
it,
rather
than
in
your
40.
C
B
Good
if
there's
doug
you
given
a
question,
I
was
trying
to.
B
That's
what
I'm
looking
for
that's
good
all
right,
so
doug
will
move
that
we
adopt
this
resolution
charlotte.
Secondly,
there's
no
other
questions
we'll
call
that
any
all
in
favor
great,
that's
unanimous,
and
this
will
move
on
to
the
full
iura
on
the
last
thursday
january,
4th
thursday
january
27th,
yes
january,
27th
great
doug!
Thank
you
peter
thank
you
for
being
here.
Hopefully
we
gave
you
a
little
time
back.
B
E
Take
a
stab
at
it.
Yes,
so
we
reported
at
the
ira
meeting
in
in
mid-december
after
the
ed
meeting
the
discussion
that
the
ec
had
with
finger
lakes
reuse
that
they,
you
know,
we're
really
at
a
point
to
make
a
recommendation
in
december,
wanted
to
get
the
ira's
feedback
on
on
what
approach
they
thought
would
be
the
best
way
to
go.
So
there's
a
memo
in
your
packet
that
was
distributed
to
the
ira,
meaning
you.
F
E
Looking
at
the
pros
and
cons
of
three
or
four
different
options
after
discussion,
the
the
unanimous
direction
from
the
co
from
the
ira
was
to
continue
to
explore
a
150
000
forgivable
loan,
with
five
jobs
to
be
retained,
provided
that
the
ira's
risk
was
sufficiently
addressed
in
in
so
it's
an
effort.
You
know
the
direction
was
to
have
the
edc
try
to
try
to
find
a
package
that
would
work
for
both
the
ira
and
finger
lakes.
E
Reuse,
but
you
know
wanted
to
make
sure
the
ira
is
particularly
protected
against
any
clawback
of
cdbg
funds,
which
would
result
if
the
fi,
if
the
jobs
were
not
maintained
through
a
job
reporting
period,
and
then
I
think
there
also
is
an
underlying
issue
about
you
know.
How
does
this
help
long-term
sustainability
of
finger
lakes
reuse?
Or
are
we
going
to
be
back
here
next
year
having
a
similar
discussion
for
a
new
funding
request,
and
I
think
that
the
agency
didn't
want
to
be
in
that
position.
E
So
I
think
those
are
the
two
underlying
issues
of
long-term
sustainability
and
the
immediate
issues
related
to
an
eligible
use
of
cdbg
funds.
It
is
a
little
bit
convoluted
to
make
this
an
eligible
use
of
cdbg
funds,
and
it
will
require
going
back
to
the
common
council
for
an
amendment
to
the
action
plan,
because
we
would
be
shifting
monies
from
the
ed
lone
fund,
as
well
as
finger
lakes,
job
training
activities
in
2021
to
fund
this.
E
But
it
would
be
an
eligible
activity
to
undertake
an
economic,
a
community
economic
development
project
resulting
in
the
retention
of
five
jobs
undertaken
by
a
community
based
development
organization.
Cbdo
the
same
rules
we
use
for
making
job
training
activities
eligible
outside
of
the
public
service
cap.
E
Hopefully
I'm
not
going
into
too
many
weeds
here,
but
but
so
that
was
the
general
direction
and
then
there's
been
some
communications
back
and
forth
to
address
some
of
those
concerns
in
terms
of
understanding.
You
know
those
those
two
questions
and
I
think
we
shared
those
by
by
email
in
terms
of
the
questions
and
the
responses
back
from
finger
lakes,
reuse.
B
Great
thank
you
niles
and
just
to
clarify,
maybe
for
everybody's
understanding,
but
certainly
from
my
understanding
it
in
the
resolution.
Just
as
it's
written
just
on
that
very
technical
detail,
the
the
part
that
would
actually
be
risk
at
risk
of
clawback
is
the
9802560.
E
E
It's
a
whole
hundred,
fifty
thousand
yeah,
it's
all
cdbg
funds
regulated
by
hud.
B
Right,
yes,
got
it!
Okay,
I
know
diane's
here
robert
is
here
as
well.
Is
there
do
you
want
to
maybe
I'll
give
you
a
little
time
to
just
maybe
give
us
an
update,
because
I
know
you
had
a
board
meeting
and
revised
a
budget.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
add
just
before
we
kind
of
maybe
get
into
q
a.
F
Right
so
hi
everybody
nice
to
connect
with
you
all
again.
This
is
rob
the
director
of
financial
operations
at
reuse,
so
we
did
share
with
nells
that
our
board
of
directors
did
pass
a
contingent
budget
at
the
end
of
december.
Our
organization
is
looking
at
our
actual
financial
performance
very
closely,
and
our
board
is
a
resolved
to
be
revising
that
budget.
F
Look
like
they
are
or
might
bear
fruit.
So
in
december
we
shared
some
preliminary
budget
projections
and
those
figures
that
we
gave.
You
then
were
based
on
the
assumption
that
we
were
just
going
to
go
into
2021
out
the
gate,
cutting
nine
to
ten
jobs,
only
five,
four
or
five.
If
we
seemed
like
we
were
going
to
be
successful
with
this
loan
request,
our
board
passed
a
contingent
budget
for
this
year.
F
That
did
not
include
terminations
january
1st.
It
currently
whole.
You
know.
The
budget,
as
it
currently
is,
holds
our
entire
current
staff
and
hire
of
a
volunteer
coordinator
to
help
with
our
unpaid
labor
force
and
get
that
back
on
track.
F
As
we
told
you
last
month,
it
that
was
utterly
wrecked
by
the
pandemic,
and
it
also
includes
some
aspirational
fundraising
goals
of
securing
a
a
substantial
amount
about
500
000
in
government
funding
from
different
sources
based
on
work
that
we've
been
doing,
laying
the
groundwork
for
for
all
of
that
over
the
past
couple
of
years.
But
you
know
they
have
not
said
yes
yet.
F
So
we
are
still
looking
at
this
loan
request
with
the
prerequisite
smoking
gun
that,
but
for
support.
Some
positions
are
likely
to
be
lost,
the
ones
that
we
presented
to
you,
although
we
haven't
taken
the
plunge
with
eliminations,
just
yet
we're
choosing
to
keep
on
working
to
secure
some
of
those
sources
before
we
start
firing.
People.
I
I'll
just
add,
thank
you
rob
a
couple
things
one
is
we
are
active.
We
have
some
funding
from
the
county
to
plan
for
this.
You
know,
we've
been
growing
so
rapidly
that
and
we've
been
successful
in
getting
the
public
to
adopt
bringing
so
much
material
to
us
that
it
overwhelms
us.
It's
been
really
really
challenging
to
to
try
to
keep
up
with
this
volume
of
material
and
we're
having
some
success
in
getting
some
recognition
that
this
is
important
work,
economic
development,
workforce
development.
So
we
have
a.
I
We
just
have
started
some
planning
meetings.
We
some
of
the
members
include
jeff
furman,
joe
mariana,
martha
robertson,
I'm
forgetting
people
but
we're,
and
we
have
some
county
funding.
Eventually
we're
going
to
put
out
an
rfp
to
get
someone
to
do
an
assessment.
This
quarter,
ideally
to
to
launch
that
and
start
looking
at
how
we're
doing
things.
What
we
might
want
to
consider
changing.
The
other
thing
is,
you
know,
last
year,
our
our
earned
revenues.
I
One
of
the
things
that
makes
us
unique
as
a
non-profit
is
our
the
strength
in
our
earned
revenues,
and
last
year
we
averaged
175
000
a
month
through
our
cash
registers.
So
you
know,
I
know
that
this
is
a
big
loan
for
this
agency
and
we
recognize
the
generosity
of
it.
But
I
think
when
you
talk
about
the
risks,
the
reality
is
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
strings
to
pull
them
while
we
don't
want
to
lay
people
off
and
we're
trying
to
resist
that
right
now.
I
That
is
something
that's
an
option,
and
I
think
what's
what's
nice
about
this
particular
arrangement?
If
we
can
do
it,
is
it
actually
preserves
specific
jobs
and
specific
people
that
might
be
otherwise
at
risk?
And
so
if,
by
being
able
to
say
this
person
has
support-
and
we
can
continue
to
support
them-
that's
that's
helpful
to
us
as
we're
making
decisions
moving
forward.
B
A
I
had
a
question
for
diane
or
rob
if
there
was
no
funding
to
save
these
positions,
the
five
that
you're
looking
at
what
would
be
the
result
to
the
organization.
Obviously,
if
those
five
positions
were
lost,
that's
the
loss
of
five
people's
employment.
But
what
would
the
impact
of
those
job
losses
or
those
position
losses
be
on
the
rest
of
the
organization
and
all
the
changes
and
juggling
you're
doing.
I
I'll
start
rob
can
maybe
answer.
We
look
very
actively
at
productivity.
You
know
sales
for
labor
hour,
so
we're
trying
to
drill
down
and
get
more
specifics,
because
we
obviously
have
this
structural
problem,
but
many
of
our
operating
staff,
the
average
is,
at
the
ithaca
view,
center
it's
over
30
dollars
an
hour
and
at
the
of
a
trip
hammer
it's
it's
slightly
under
30.,
that's
gone
down
over
the
years
as
we've
grown
and
we're
trying
to
wrench
it
back.
I
It's
actually
gone
up
over
the
last
year,
we've
been
able
to
turn
it
around
and
get
that
to
increase
again,
so
it
becomes
a.
I
guess.
In
short
it
it.
It
undermines
our
mission
to
put
more
stuff
on
the
shelves,
the
more
stuff
we
put
on
the
shelves,
the
more
people
buy.
That's
been
a
very
linked
trend
for
many
years,
so
it
it
it's
hurtful
because
it
helps
us
it
it.
I
It
limits
our
our
ability
to
put
this
overwhelming
volume
of
stuff
on
the
shelves
and
generate
revenue
so,
and
we
we
feel,
and
the
staff
feels
very
strongly
that,
especially
with
the
the
spike
in
what
we
call
call
outs,
when
someone
calls
in
sick,
you
know
unplanned
people,
we
feel
very
thinly
staffed
trying
to
deal
with
this.
We
this
enormous
volume
of
material.
I
On
saturday
we
had
185
donations,
dropped
off
at
the
ithaca
view
center
and
75
up
at
trip
hammer-
and
it's
just
you
know
it's
not
one
thing:
it's
car
loads
and
truck
loads,
and
it's
a
lot
to
handle
for
especially
if
three
people
call
in
sick
that
day,
which
is
often
the
case.
F
Just
jumping
in
there
on
leslie's
question
of
the
specific
operational
impacts
of
the
loss
of
these
positions.
F
F
All
these
positions
are
at
the
ithaca
reuse
center
because
of
the
like
the
ones
covered
in
this
request,
considering
the
interest
of
the
iora,
but
you
know
the
proposal
includes
removing
the
position
like
like
the
the
prospective
cuts
covered
by
this
request
include
removing
the
position
that
manages
our
free
distribution
of
materials
to
households
in
need.
F
So
we
had
that
program
before
we
hired
this
person
and
created
that
position,
we
will
have
it
in
some
form
if
we
have
to
release
them
from
work
and
and
not
have
that
job
anymore.
However,
it
will
be,
it
will
be
constrained.
F
Our
ability
to
like
the
other
positions
are
focused
in
you
know,
taking
some
of
the
personnel
out
of
our
building
materials
and
warehousing
staff
for
the
ethical
location
which
you
know
will
have
genuine
impacts
on
the
pressures.
Diane
was
talking
about
of
just
trying
to
manage
the
tidal
wave
of
material.
F
We
will
still
have
people
doing
those
jobs
they'll
be
under
a
bit
more
pressure
to
keep
up
with
the
stuff
and
most
likely
we'll
we'd
have
to
look
at
a
reorganization
of
some
of
our
pricing
and
merchandising
strategy
for
the
building
materials,
seeing
as
a
those
positions
are
included
in
that
you
know,
the
final
position
is
one
of
the
assistant
managers
for
the
ithaca
location.
F
D
Question
chris,
I
saw
an
email
today
that
you've
stopped
the
collections
of
some
household
goods
and
clothing.
I
Well,
so
the
reason
we
chose,
those
two
is
that's
the
two
that
we
have
while
yes,
you're
exactly
right.
Household
goods
are
by
far
our
largest
department
of
revenue
generation.
We
also
have
some
of
the
largest
backlog
in
that
and,
as
you
may
have
recalled,
I
had
sent
out
an
email
right
before
the
last
meeting,
desperately
trying
to
get
a
little
more
warehouse
space,
because
it
was
right
next
to
some
warehouse
space
we
had
just
leased.
I
We
were
able
to
secure
that
and
we
filled
it
since
I
saw
you
last
actually,
my
people,
the
next
day
were
saying
it's
not
enough
space.
That's
how
you
know
it's
hard
to.
I
I
I
once
we
once
once
the
house
has
come
down
in
college
town,
which
is
by
the
end
of
this
week,
we'll
do
some
tours
down
at
the
d.o.t,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
a
visual
of
the
volume,
but
we
have
probably
around
300
pallets
of
clothing
that
haven't
been
sorted,
they've
just
been
thrown
in
a
box
and
stored
because
we
don't
sell
it
downtown,
so
it
comes
in
and
then
we're
storing
it
and
then
we're
hoping
they
catch
up.
I
Uptown
and
we
send
a
few
up
there,
but
it
doesn't
keep
up
with
what
comes
in
and
the
same
with
housewares,
both
places
I
mean:
we've
tripled
the
footprint
for
housewares
and
we've
raised
and
densified
the
shelving
up
at
our
mega
center
trip,
hammer
and
they're.
You
know
a
huge
seller
down
here
at
the
ithaca
ryu
center
and
we're
producing
them
as
fast
as
we
can
meaning
putting
them
on
the
shelves.
Pricing
them,
but
we
still
have
this
enormous
backlog.
I
We
put
them
in,
we
put
the
small
stuff
into
boxes,
we
shrink
wrap
them
onto
pallets
and
we
have
many
many
many
many
many
pallets
of
backlog
of
household
items.
That's
why
we
chose
those
two
last
year,
when
we
did
in
june,
we
cut
all
down
all
donations,
because
the
staff
really
kind
of
had
an
uprising.
They
were
like
so
overwhelmed
with
everything
and
they
they
were
just
asking
to
shut
down
one
day
a
week.
I
But
everything
was
such
chaos
that
we
decided
to
shut
down
for
a
month
and
try
to
regroup,
reset
our
systems
and
go
forward
again,
and
we
are
still
closed
for
donations
on
thursdays.
But
you
know
it
helped
a
lot
and
we
were,
we
saw
a
difference
in
in
our
systems
are
much
better.
There's
much
less
chaos.
We've
been
able
to
maintain
that,
but
there's
still
like
the
donations
keep
rising
and
we
don't.
We
don't
have
loading
docks.
We
don't
have
overflow
space,
we
don't
we
we're
everywhere.
I
We
turn
we
can't
there's
no
room
to
put
something
down.
So
it's
it's
very
challenging
and
it
really
hurt
us
last
year
because
we
one
of
the
things
that
sells
almost
instantly
is
furniture
that
comes
in
that
day.
We
put
it
on
the
floor.
It
sells
it's
25
of
our
sales,
our
sales
in
june,
when
we
were
closed
for
donations,
were
down.
I
don't
know
drastically
25
30
40,
something
like
that.
So
we
didn't
want
to
do
that
again.
I
We
wanted
the
public
to
understand
and
there's
other
outlets
in
town
to
bring
clothing
and
household
goods.
Rescue
missions,
salvation
army
oar
just
put
out
a
call
for
winter
clothes.
So
what
you
know
we'll
hope
that
actually
salvation
army
brought
us
a
box
truck
load
of
household
goods
right
before
christmas.
I
saw
their
truck,
I'm
like
what
were
they
doing
here,
they're
like
they
brought
us,
I'm
like
what
did
they
prank
us
and
I
called
barb
extra
after
that
I
was
like
we.
We
really.
We
really
need
some
help.
I
You
know
we're
looked
at
as
a
public
service,
we're
expected
to
be
an
enterprise
and
we're
it's
just
been
very,
very
overwhelming,
and
I
think
you
know
personally,
I'm
really
proud
of
how
highly
we've
been
functioning
during
all
of
this
covid
and
been
really,
I
think,
a
leader
in
you
know
the
mass
mandate
helping
the
pub
you
know
the
health
department
get
that
out
there
being
really
strict
about
our
policies.
I
I
think
we've
been
a
really
good
part
like
public
partner,
but
we
really
haven't
gotten
the
support
that
we
need
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out.
What
is
it
we
need?
How
is
it
going
to
get
there
that
oh
and
I
should
add,
paul
mazzarella
has
joined
our
group.
I
think
he,
I
think
he's
joining.
He
came
to
one
meeting
anyway,
hopefully,
as
we
try
to
look
at
how
are
we,
what
is
our
five-year
plan
to
get
to
this
healthy
get
into
balance?
I
I
think
everybody
we're
asking
to
look
at
this
has
been
saying
yes
and
so
we're
putting
together
a
strong
group,
and
I'm
excited
about
that.
But
it's
it's
hard
to
plan
when
you're
in
a
completely
reactive
position,
all
the
time.
H
So
you
know
I'm
in
support
of
it,
because
I
think
it's,
it
frees
up
their
ability
to
more
appropriately
respond
to
the
growth
that
they're
already
having.
So
it
is
at
risk,
but
it's
still
tied
back
to
job
development
and
it's
it's
within
the
mission.
So
I'm
in
support-
and
I
think
because
of
that
exact
bandwidth
issue
on
the
management
side.
B
Can
you
actually
maintain
the
operation?
Remove
whatever
positions
you
need
to
remove,
because
you
don't
have
that
funding
and
it's
built
into
your
budget
and
manage
it
with
the
kind
of
cash
resources
you
have
because
that's
our
risk,
because
the
risk
is
at
some
point
that
you
know
you
have
to
go
deeper
than
we
think
or
you
know
worst
case
right
like
you
know,.
I
I
We
chose
five
five
people
who
have
been
stable
and
good
performers
and
that
that
need
you
know
that
that
meet
all
the
criteria,
but
what
will
happen
if
we,
if
we
do
first
of
all,
we
are
going
to
get
some
funding
and
also
our
sales
projections
are
very
conservative.
Our
budget,
our
current
budget,
that
we
put
forward
only
has
an
eight
percent
sales
growth.
We've
been
averaging
20
to
25.
I
You
know
throughout
our
our
history,
so
you
know
we
wanted
to
see.
You
know
what,
if
you
know
what,
if
this
whole
world
you
know
this
whole
year
is,
is
another
really
crazy
year
and
other
crazy
things
happen
or
whatever,
but
I
do
think
we
are
gonna
from
what
I'm
hearing
I
think
new
york
state
is
very
supportive
of
what
we're
doing
anna
kellis
is
very
supportive.
I
I
believe
there
there
will
be
some
movement
with
the
county,
and
I
think,
talking
with
joe
and
and
with
martha
they're,
going
to
really
help
us
strategize
around
that,
and-
and
actually
we
just
did
a
tour
up
in
college
town
of
the
work
that
we're
doing.
We
had
six
county
legislators
come
on
saturday
when
it
wasn't
as
cold
as
today,
but
it
was
pretty
cold
and
four
common
council
members
came
for
a
tour
which
was
exciting.
I
think
there's
some
support
and
interest
in
what
we're
doing.
I
But
you
know
to
answer
your
question.
Chris
we
have
80
employees
and
a
number
of
our
employees
are
not
as
dependable
and
probably
you
know
we
would.
We
would
be
forced
to
do
that
kind
of
extra
work
to
to
keep
people
here
in
their
jobs,
and
you
know
those
were
used
to
help
people
stabilize
their
lives,
which
is
we
do
that
a
lot
and
we
we
would
have,
we
would
be
forced
to
cut
people
loose.
I
I
will
say
we
are
being
explicit
this
year
in
2022,
because
we
are
so
you
know
close
to
the
bone
here
that,
as
as
we're
trying
to
look
forward
we're
saying
we
we're
being
very
explicit
about
dependability
and
how
that's
going
to
help
you
advance
here
being
reliable.
That's
that's
been
something.
That's
really.
We've
backslid
on
as
we've
grown
and
so
we're
gonna
be
a
lot
more
explicit
about
that
and
really
try
to
help
support
people
in
that.
F
Chris
to
to
your
question,
you
know
in
in
the
request
to
your
agency,
we
selected
five
positions
that
we
have
a
fair
degree
of
confidence
that,
with
a
shot
of
the
arm
we
can
preserve,
even
without
that
other
support
the
impacts
of
not
receiving
that
other
support,
realizing
our
sales
growth
and
having
success.
Success
in
our
strategic
planning
and
so
forth.
Are
that
we're
going
to
shed
jobs
in
lansing
and
we're
going
to
shed
some
other
positions?
F
But
you
know
the
building
materials
specialist.
The
the
warehousing
assistant,
the
program
coordinator,
the
assistant
manager,
positions
that
we
listed
in
this
request
are
ones
that,
with
some
short-term
support,
we
believe
that
we
can
maintain
long-term.
It's
the
other
ones
that
are
at
risk
of
more
permanent
loss.
B
Right,
maybe
I've
got
like
two
follow-ups,
they're
slightly
different
and
sorry
to
be
on
the
weeds
on
this
right,
but
I
think
you're
right
about
like
you've
been,
I
mean.
Obviously
you
said,
you've
been
very
conservative
in
the
revenue
growth
right,
and
so
I
was
just
kind
of
quickly
like
doing
a
few
numbers
on
my
calculator
right.
B
B
B
That's
coming
in
to
materialize,
let's
say:
25
30
growth
that
might
be
possible
based
on
your
20
to
21
revenue
growth
right,
which
you
kind
of
need
that
revenue
growth
in
order
to
have
enough
revenue
from
operations
from
the
merchandise
sales
to
cover
your
salaries
and
wages.
So
that's
my
first
question.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
heard
that
clearly
from
you.
I
Enough,
yes
yeah,
I
I
think
the
way
you
just
laid
that
out
is
about
is
about
right.
I
mean
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
flexibility
in
how
we
operate
within
this.
You
know
kind
of
maelstrom,
and
so-
and
you
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
able
to
do
is
we
we
service
our
debt
and
you
know,
we've
been
really
consistent.
We
have
a
good
board.
I
We
have
a
finance
committee
that
meets
every
month,
even
though
we're
you
know
not
fiscally
beautiful
on
paper,
we're
responsible
and
you
know,
and
you
guys
have
been
strong
partners.
So
I
you
know,
I
know,
like
you
know,
words,
don't
don't
mitigate
risk,
but
you
know
we.
We
do
have
a
long
relationship
and
I
think
we've
been
generally
responsible
with
that.
B
My
second
question-
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this
in
december
right-
which
is
it's
hard
for
you
to
break
out,
because
within
your
salaries
and
wages
you
have,
I
assume,
people
who
largely
are
doing
direct
service
of
your
merchandise,
sale
right,
the
true
direct
cost,
labor
cost
of
that,
and
then
you
have
other
staff
which
are
providing
a
lot
of
the
social
service.
Supports
that
you
need-
and
I
think
did
I
hear
you
say
in
december
that
it's
just
hard
for
you
to
break
that
out,
because
that
would
be
a
useful
piece
to
understand.
I
I
think
I
might
have
been
referring
to
it's
hard
to
break
out.
What
we're
really
trying
to
drill
down
into
is
is
by
department
performance.
You
know,
furniture
versus
you
know
how
what
we're
we're
trying
to
understand
that
right
now
and
we're
changing
how
people
log
their
hours
so
that
we
can
understand
is
there?
Is
there
a
department,
that's
a
loser
for
us
and
that
we
might
want
to
you
know,
deal
with
or
at
least
get
a
grant
to
support
because
of
the
environmental
impacts
or
whatever.
I
So
we
we
are
going
to
try
to
get
that
clarity
over
the
course
of
this
year.
It's
it's
been
very
challenging
for
that.
We
do
have
very
clear
understanding
of
who's,
administrative
versus
who's
operations,
staff
and
that's
that's
a
simpler
thing
to
understand.
A
A
Even
if
the
iura
lost
the
whole
150
000,
and
I
don't
think
we
will.
That
would
be
the
worst
case
scenario
we're.
We
are
ultimately
here
to
provide
economic
and
associated
benefits
to
the
community,
and
I
think
that
that
that
this
organization,
maybe
more
than
certainly
more
than
most
others,
but
in
just
phenomenal
ways,
this
organization
provides
that
to
the
community.
So
I
I
feel
like
I'm
in
full
support
of
this.
At
this
stage,.
B
D
I
We
have
that
yeah
and
and
someone
just
rounded
up
a
hundred
dollars
but
and
we're
trying
to
get
our
cashiers
to
mention
it.
Some
do
some
don't,
but
we
get.
You
know.
You
know
one
to
five
dollars
a
day
right
now,
where
I
think
we
have
a
real
opportunity,
but
we
haven't
had
the
we're
just
bringing
on
a
volunteer
coordinator.
I
We
if
we
had
an
ambassador
working
out
in
the
donations
parking
lot,
that's
where
we
were
doing
a
huge
service
for
people
who
could
afford
to
to
give
a
buck
or
five,
and
I
think
if
someone
was
standing
out
there
with
a
clipboard.
I
did
this
one
day
about
three
years
ago
in
our
donations
area-
and
I
said:
hey
you
know:
did
you
know
that
you
have
all
these
impacts
by
donating
your
things?
I
Oh,
would
you
be
willing
to
give
a
donation
everybody
gave,
so
I
think
that
we
could
actually
get
some
revenue
on
that
side.
We
it
took
us
a
while.
We
have
the
technology
there.
We
have
cash
register,
drawers
we
just
it's
so
chaotic
185
donations.
How
do
you
even
to
talk
to
people,
but
if
we
could
get
a
volunteer
out
there,
even
some
on
saturdays
that
could
that
could
make
an
impact?
B
I
So
yeah
this
morning's
email
was
predicated
by.
We
had
finally
found
a
a
company
who
would
buy
50
52
pallets
of
clothing.
They
were
going
to
get
two
truckloads,
so
104
pallets
in
in
our
brand
new
warehouse
and
was
going
to
make
space
for
other
things,
and
we
were
going
to
get
those
gaylords
which
we
paid
25
a
piece
for
the
the
cardboard
boxes
that
sit
on
top
of
the
pallets.
We
were
completely
out
of
them,
so
that
was
part
of
the
crisis.
I
Yesterday
is
like
there's
four
up
at
trip:
hammer
and
zero
down
here
and
it's
it's
not
enough,
and-
and
they
were
supposed
to
come
last
week
and
then
on
friday
they
canceled.
They
said
we
can't
take
it.
They
they
want
bailed
clothing,
we
don't
have
a
baler
yet
so
that's
that's
going
to
be
another.
That's
going
to
be
a
grant.
We
write,
but
we
need
to
have
the
space
to
do
it
and
the
loading
and
all
that
stuff.
So
we're
we've
arrived
at
that
volume.
I
I've
talked
to
the
major
at
the
salvation
army.
They
would
love
to
send
their
their
clothes
to
us
to
bail
tompkins
county.
I
think
that
we
would
have
the
support,
but
we
have
to.
We
have
to
take
that
step
to
get
that
right.
Size,
space,
that'll,
be
part
of
the
plan.
I
think
we
put
together
this
year.
B
Okay,
anything
else,
charlotte
did
you.
I
need
no
you're
good.
B
Okay,
so
if
there's
no
other
discussion
all
in
favor
of
moving
this
forward.
A
Wait
I
had
a
question
actually
sorry
there
we
go
wrenches
again.
Are
there
any?
There
were
a
lot
of
whereases.
Were
there
any
notable
things
in
there
nells?
I
started
losing
my
train
of
thought
as
I
was
reading,
all
the
whereases
or
is
there
anything
that
might
be
might
need
to
tweaking?
For
any
reason,
that's
come
up
since
that
all
the
warehouses
were
written.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's
consistent
with
with
the
discussion
we've
had
here.
I
I
did
try
to
explain
the
the
community
economic
development
project.
You
know
it
took
several
whereas
to
get
to
that
and
how
it
doesn't
meet
our
ed
loan
fund
criteria,
but,
generally
speaking,
we're
trying
to
make
a
couple
of
major
findings.
E
One
is
that,
but
for
the
assistance
there
would
be
job
loss
is
number
one,
and,
secondly,
that
that
there's
a
reasonable
expectation
that
that
the
jobs
will
be
retained
for
a
minimum
of
six
quarters
is
the
other
piece
that
that
that's
built
in
there,
and
I
think
those
are
still
in
that
the
language
is
still
generally
in
there
on
both
of
those
issues.
There
are
a
lot
of
conditions
to
this
loan.
E
Yes,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
do
need
to
get
the
approval
of
the
common
council
to
approve
this
program,
amendment
to
shift
these
monies
around
and
make
it
available
and
figure
lakes.
Reuse
is
giving
up
the
2021
funding
for
the
job
training
program.
They
have
2020
funding
in
place,
so
they're
not
they're,
not
going
to
be
without
resources
to
to
operate
their
programs,
but
we're
basically
rededicating
98
000
to
this
activity
and
then
augmenting
it
with
eddy
loan
funds
to
get
up
to
150..
E
E
D
B
Yeah,
it's
been
the
second,
whereas
on
page
two
got
that
nose
and
then
I
don't
think
we
need
to
put
this
in
the
resolution,
but
maybe
nell's
I
mean
I
think
you've
already
got
the
conditions
that
they
need
to
provide
inc,
quarterly
income
and
expense
reports
and
any
adopted
revisions
of
their
operating
budget
because
it
doesn't
like
the
board,
might
do
a
revision
of
the
2022
budget,
and
I
would
just
ask
that
if
you
determine
that
something
is
materially
different,
that
maybe
we
just
put
an
item
on
the
agenda
and
just
so,
we
can
have
a
10
minute
check
in
with
rob
and
diane.
B
If
anything
is
materially
different
from
this
revision
here
that
we
see
this
version
of
the
budget
we
see
here
just
so
that
we're
staying
up
to
speed
and
you
guys
are
welcome
to
come
back
anytime.
So
if
you,
if
this
committee
you're
forming,
comes
up
with
some
really
great
ideas,
I
would
say
socialize
those
ideas
with
us
earlier.
B
B
Yeah,
okay,
cool
all
right!
So
now
I
think
we
are
officially
able
to
vote
unless
last
minute
checks
on
anything,
no
good,
all
right,
all
in
favor
opposed
or
none,
so
that
will
pass
unanimously
and
go
to
the
ira
on
january
27th
as
well.
B
Great,
thank
you
for
bearing
with
us
as
we
work
through.
All
of
this
and
yeah
continued
good
luck
as
you
work
through
all
the
scenarios
and
that
you
have
to
come
up
with
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
months.
B
All
right
thanks
everybody
for
that.
Let's
see
I've
lost
track
of
the
agenda
here.
What's
are
we
at.
E
Want
to
take
it
from
here.
No,
I
was
only
able
to
provide
you
with
the
grant
summary
this
report
we're
waiting
for
the
loan
report,
but
I
will
give
you
a
verbal
on
the
loan
report
that
all
of
our
borrowers
are
current
with,
which
is
it's
a
rare
statement
to
make
that
in
2021
was
we.
C
E
Everybody's
current,
except
for
we
got,
we
have
one
issue,
which
is
that
the
owners
of
the
canopy
hotel,
downtown
ithaca
associates
is
still
delinquent
on
an
interest-only
payment
back
in
september
of
2020
and
we're
working
that
with
mnt
to
give
them
the
proper
billing.
We
can't
bill
them
directly.
We
have
to
work
through
m
t
and
if
we
give
them
the
wrong
number,
it
actually
makes
things
more
difficult.
E
So
it's
it's
not
it's
not
a
maturely
large
amount
that
they're
delinquent
on
and
but
just
wanted
to
note
that
so
you're
aware
of
it
we're
working
on
that
issue.
So
it's
great
to
know
that
the
loans
are
in
good
shape
right
now.
Lease
report
release
payments
are
also
in
good
shape.
We
we
have
one
outlier
kind
of
issue,
which
is
that
the
ithaca
farmers
market
is
showing
up
on
our
records
is
one
month
delinquent,
but
they
really
delinquent,
because
the
city
cashed
a
check
made
out
to
the
ira
and.
C
E
Have
to
get
it
out
of
the
city,
there
was
a
mistake,
they
thought
it
was
a
site
plan
fee
and
it
turned
out
to
be
our
rent.
F
E
E
So
this
actual,
if
we
issue
this
loan,
it's
going
to
help
us
out
quite
a
bit
in
terms
of
spend
down
so
get
us
closer.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
to
make
that
spin
down
ratio.
E
You
know
funding
sources,
some
in
some
cases
were
available
where,
where
cdbg
funds
normally
would
be,
but
we
are
facing
a
bit
of
a
challenge
on
the
spend
down,
so
we're
looking
for
talking
with
all
the
agencies
and
if
you
look
closely
at
the
grand
summer,
you'll
see
that
several
of
the
job
training
programs
have
not,
you
know,
have
quite
a
bit
of
a
balance
going
forward.
So
I
thought
it
was
co.
You
know
I
had.
E
I
was
comfortable
comfortable
recommending
we
you,
we
rededicate
finger
lakes,
money
for
job
training
to
the
loan
because
they
have
two
years
worth
of
funding
that
hasn't
been.
You
know
you
know
voted
for.
E
Similarly,
http
has
money
out
there
and
and
we'll
you
know,
we'll
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
amount
when
we
go
through
the
2022
grant
to
see
if
if
they
have
sufficient
funding
to
go
forward
without
another
years
of
funding,
we've
kind
of
built
up
a
little
bit
of
a
positive
balance
for
them
and
that's
generally
nice
to
have,
if
you're
running
an
organization
but
not
when
we
have
to
spend
down
the
money
to
meet,
see
hud
requirements.
E
A
E
So
we
often
work
with
inhs
to
say
bill
is
the
majority
you
know
of
it
early
on
and
then
we'll
continue
to
have
small
payments
every
month
or
every
two
months
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
that
red
flag
come
up
from
hud
so,
but
I
think
we
probably
could
make
some
progress
in
upper,
and
that
would
be
great
well.
A
Let
me
know
also
where
we
are
with
the
contract
for
110
auburn,
because
I
can
certainly,
if
we're
all
set
with
that
one.
I
can
certainly
voucher
for
some
of
that
stuff
too.
E
E
And
then
that
can
transition
to
the
staff
report.
If
that's
is
that
the
next
item
you
may
have
noticed,
there's
a
leadership
change
of
the
city
going
on
effective
february.
Six
we'll
have
a
different
mayor.
Acting
mayor
will
be
laura
lewis,
I
think
you're
all
familiar
with
laura,
as
lays
on
the
ira.
She's
informed
me
that
she
will
not
be
the
liaison
going
forward
that
the
mayor
has
appointed
a
different
council
member.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
know
the
identity
of
the
council
member.
E
Yet
so
I've
asked
if
they
could
share
that
information
with
this,
but
we'll
have
a
different
council
member
providing
the
liaison
ship
for
the
ira.
Hopefully
you
know
in
the
next
day
or
two
and
I'll
pass
it
on
to
you
and
the
we
did.
This
is
not
directly
economic
development,
but
housing
is
often
economic
development
as
well.
The
state
has
issued
or
released
their
low-income
housing
tax
credit
funding
round
the
most
recent
one
and
for
the
first
time
in
several
years,
there's
no
tompkins
county
projects
on
that
site
for
funding.
E
So
it
just
points
to
just
the
incredible
competitiveness
of
those
of
those
of
those
funds.
The
southern
tier
as
a
region
did
pretty
well,
and
maybe
they
did
too
well,
because
maybe
that
was
you
know
they
seem
to
balance
it
out.
So
there's
like
two
to
four
projects
per
region
in
this
in
the
state
and
southern
tier
already
had
three.
E
So
our
understanding
is
that
the
governsburg
project
is
still
in
good
standing
for
a
future
application,
but
it
will
have
to
go
through
that
process
and
the
other
project
that
we
were
monitoring
was
the
visum
project
on
west
state
street
across
from
the
ironworks
project,
the
500
block
both,
and
they
also
have
indicated
they
plan
to
reapply
for
funding.
So
we
don't
have
any
any
new
major
housing
projects
in
the
works,
but
I
did
want
to
also
give
you
a
really
quick
update
on
the
green
street
garage
redevelopment
project.
E
Things
are
going
well
we're,
maybe
a
month
behind
where
we,
where
the
original
schedule
was.
The
garage
is
unscheduled
to
be
the
four
level.
Four
additional
levels
are
expected
to
be
completed
in
may,
of
2022
it'll
then
move
over
to
the
conference
center
and
and
the
with
the
upper
story.
Affordable,
housing.
The
conference
center
is
projected
to
be
completed
in
july
of
2023,
so
we'll
have
construction
going
on
for
quite
a
few
months,
and
the
housing
project
will
is
planned
to
open
in
december
of
2023.
E
So
everything
seems
to
be
moving
forward.
The
the
rimland
project,
the
ithacan,
is
completing
their
subsurface
reinforcements
to
support
that
building
they're,
not
out
of
the
ground.
Yet
really,
so
that's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
longer
in
terms
of
when
they
come
online.
They
expect
that
to
be
about
a
24-month
process
from
start
to
finish,
but
we
expect
the
the
two
decks
of
the
parking
garage
that
will
be
leased
back
to
the
city
to
be
ready
somewhere
near
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
E
So
all
told
we
should
have
about
500
parking
spaces
and
about
400
housing
units
on
that
project.
When
we
get
completed
so
all
told
pretty
good,
we
have
seen
price
escalation
as
anybody
who
is
working
with
construction
activities.
Right
now
is
facing
about
200
000,
more
than
anticipated
when
we
got
the
final
pricing
in
for
the
for
the
green
garage
and
a
significantly
higher
number
for
the
conference
center,
which
is
yet
to
break
ground
and
has
really
been
subject
to
the
inflation
and
supply
chain
issues.
E
So
we'll
have
to
work
through
those
issues
with
the
common
council
and
and
and
track
the
financing.
The
good
and
the
good
good
news
is
that
the
hotel
revenue
numbers
from
the
city
hotel
tax
are
median
expert
projections.
E
So
that's
the
main
way
of
financing
or
funding
the
conference
center
so
that
that's
that's
good
news,
but
we'll
have
to
see
where,
where
the
final
numbers
come
in
on
both
those
projects
but
looking
forward
to
their
completions,
you
know
soon.
E
Well,
the
the
mayor
appoints
the
members
of
the
ira,
so
historically,
the
mayor
has
always
appointed
themselves
to
the
ira
and
has
also
appointed
themselves
as
chair.
They
don't
know
the
answer
to
your
question
for
certain,
but
my
expectation
is
that
she
will
assume
the
chair
of
the
ira
point
herself
and
assume
the
chair.
I
haven't
heard
any
different
and
because
of
her
you
know
multiple
years
of
knowing
what
the
agency's
operations
she
would
be
well
qualified
to
do
that,
but
it
is
possible.
She
could.
E
You
know
she's
she's
still
going
to
chair
the
planning
economic
development
committee
of
common
council
as
well
as
that,
be
the
acting
mayor.
Yes,
that's
that's
so,
and
she
was
scheduled
to
take
over
the
rotating
chair
of
pcat,
but
I
believe
she's.
Finally,
she's
decided.
She
can't
do
that
as
well
in
this
in
2022.,
everything
should
be
resolved
by
november
of
20
of
2022
when
the
mayoral
election
will
occur.
E
So
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
to
consider
going
forward,
but
I'm
looking
for
some
clarity
in
terms
of
what
are
you
know
what
will
happen
as
it
relates
to
the
formal
appointment
issues
and
and
the
membership
of
the
ira.
E
More
thing,
the
inlet
island
urban
renewal
project
we're
continuing
to
meet
and
discuss.
We
have
secure,
we
have
hired
a
an
appraiser
to
do
the
appraisal.
Work
on
that
site,
they're,
saying
that
end
of
march
is
their
target
date
for
for
completing
their
work,
for
appraisal,
the
properties
and
and
flash
the
flashes
and
his
finger
lakes
redevelopment
finger.
E
Lakes
development
is
continuing
to
expand
their
their
development
team
and
and
work
on
designs
with
particularly
focusing
on
the
transportation
plan
and
our
meeting
with
the
city's
transportation
planners.
B
I
think
it
would
help
us
with
quorum.
You
know
it
would
also
bring
another
voice
to
the
table
and
you
know,
let's
let
the
dust
settle
in
terms
of
the
mayor's
acting
mayor's
appointment,
but
you
know
if
we
were,
we
could
have
something
ready.
You
know
following
that,
so
that
the
acting
mayor
could
consider
something
you
know
early
in
the
year.
We
could
get
someone
seated
by
the
ideally
the
april
meeting.
E
Far
yeah
I'll
touch
base
with
with
the
acting
mayor
and
see
if
she's
got
some
lists
of
people,
she
thinks
it
may
work
or
we
could
well.
A
A
E
E
Do
you
have
any,
do
you
have
any
names
that
you
can
put
forward?
Leslie.
E
B
E
The
community
I
did
want
to
just
remind
folks
that
the
annual
grant
application
process
is
closing
on
january
31st.
So
if
you
know
of
anybody
who's
working
on
projects,
you
know
and
funding
applications,
please
remind
them
about
that,
and
we
will.
You
know
our
first
meeting
in
march.
We'll
take
a
look
at
those.
Well,
no
I'm
saying
it's
actually,
our
first
meeting
in
february,
we'll
start
taking
a
look
at
those
funding,
applications
that
fall
within
the
economic
development
category
all
right,
because.
B
Okay,
then
motion
to
adjourn
yes
great.
We
are
adjourned
until
february.