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A
Is
Charles
joining
us
by?
Are
you
there
Charles.
E
E
E
D
A
C
Or
microphones
they
say
it
doesn't
make
any
difference.
C
D
welcome,
Derek
Adams,
this
member
of
the
EBC
and
remember
back.
Did
you
hear
sorry.
D
I
think
you've
had
a
chance
to
say
hi
to
everybody
in
these
get
things
yeah.
Okay,
if
there's
things
you
need
clarification
on
as
we're
going
through
the
meeting
today,
please
feel
free
to
just
like
that
whole
side
of
the
table
of
news.
So
you
can
have
questions
okay,.
D
C
It
doesn't
the
the
action
has
no
bearing
on
inhs,
particularly
as
a
participant.
It
does
advance
the
project.
So,
given
that
we
have
multiple
order-
and
it
probably
would
make
sense
just
to
recuse
yourself
from
something
that,
even
though
there's
no
legal
conflict,
I,
don't
think
in
this
case
it
would
just
be
protect.
D
A
Do
you
want
to
do
old,
I
mean
the
the
do
that
at
the
end,
or
is
there
anything
in
Old
other
business
that
we're.
D
Know:
okay,
we
have
meeting
minutes
from
May
9th,
which
was
our
last
meeting,
believe
it
or
not,
Chuck
and
Leslie,
and
you
guys
have
chance
to
take
a
look
at
them.
I.
D
C
Yes,
the
15-year
lease
or
three
five-year
extent.
It's
a
five-year
lease
with
two
extensions
15
years
was
signed
into
a
2008
and
it
expires
expired
in
June
of
this
year.
So
we
had
been
querying
them.
What
their
plans
were
for
the
future
on
that
use
of
that
site
for
ribs
they've
identified
some
shortcomings
with
that
site
over
time,
the
major
one
being
it's
physically
bar
removed
from
their
where
their
Staffing
is
and
their
neighborhood
focus
of
service
and
associate
neighborhood.
However,
it
is
an
affordable
building
at
500
a
month
that
offers
them.
C
You
know
a
place
to
operate
the
ribs
program
and
have
some
pretty
good
amount
of
storage,
which
is
a
big
need
for
them
for
storage
they
did.
They
have
had
trouble,
maintaining
removing
snow
from
the
sidewalk,
because
it's
a
corner
property
that
has
the
highway
with
no
Tree
Lawn
push
the
snow
up
after
the
after
they
remove
it,
and
they've
received
several
citations
for
not
removing
snow
over
time.
It's
always
been
a
minor
European
for
them.
C
The
bigger
European
has
been
they've
been
broken
into
and
had
vandalism
and
theft
occur
on
a
pretty
regular
basis,
so.
C
Are
the
shortcomings
of
the
site
that
made
them
start
to
think
about
Alternatives,
and
then
the
water
and
sewer
division
came
and
to
me
and
identified
that
they
actually
this
property
that
was
identified
as
it
was
a
former
Pump
Station
that
was
kind
of
under
you
know
no
longer
necessary
when
we
put
Pump
Station
underground,
we're
now
upgrading
our
system
and
that
property
is
no
longer
Surplus.
This
the
water
sewer
system
needs
to
put
a
pump
station
in
on
that
corner.
C
Currently,
it's
under
a
drive
lane
of
the
highway,
which
is
not
a
good
plan
for
every
time
they
have
to
maintain
it.
They
have
to
close
down
the
lane.
There's
it's
been
a
really
problematical
Pump
Station.
You
see
that
portable
kind
of
device
out
there
all
the
time
keeping
it
running
it
was
designed
for
a
much
higher
volume
than
they
had
there.
C
They
used
to
take
all
the
West
Hill
and
it
no
longer
does
so.
That's
part
of
The
Challenge
on
that
site,
but
now
they're
reconfiguring
the
alignment
and
they
want
to
make
it
again
a
very
significant
pump
station
for
moving
waste
water
towards
the
what
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
from
all
the
South
Commercial
districts,
moving
up
and
I
think
residential
as
well.
C
So
they
have
plans
to
put
in
a
fairly
good
sized
Pump
Station,
like
the
one
you
you
could
see
at
the
end
of
in
between
lows
and
what
was
Bed
Bath
and
Beyond
is
an
example
of
one
that
is
pretty
similar
in
size.
So
they
need
to
get
access
under
the
site.
They
offered
the
South
Side
Community
Center
folks,
a
couple
choices
you
know:
do
they
want
to
stay
on
the
site
and
accommodate
Pump
Station
on
the
site.
It
would
be
underground,
but
it
would
have
some
device.
C
You
know
some
Mechanicals
above
and
they
thought
they
could
either
located
in
the
building
or
they
could
located
in
the
backyard.
But
it
would
it's
a
pretty
serious
construction
project
to
build
one
of
these
and
it
would
minimize
their
utility
utilization
space
on
the
site.
C
Water
and
Sewer
division
has
pledged
to
provide
some
Engineering
Services
to
South
Side,
to
look
at
Alternatives
whether
they
can
replace
you
know,
accommodate
ribs
on
the
Southside,
Community
Center
building
or
in
another
site
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
and
so
psych
Community
Center
has
agreed
that
they
are
willing
to
terminate
their
lease
on
this
site
to
allow
they
don't
want
to
try
to
co-locate
with
the
with
the
with
the
sewer
pump
station.
That's
what
it
boils
down
to
and
they
prefer
to
bring
it
back
to
suicide.
Where
exactly
it's
going
to
go.
C
Is
the
question
of
course,
but
but
they
are,
except
you
know,
accepting
to
a
period.
You
know
to
extend
the
lease
to
January
of
2025
by
which,
which
is
what
kind
of
the
start
time
for
construction
of
the
pump
station
and
and
would
like
to
have
another.
You
know
essentially
a
19-month
extension
of
their
lease
to
plan
for
that
relocation.
So
they're
agreeable
to
this
extension
in
19
months,
they're
agreeable
to
leaving
the
site
after
that
point
in
time.
They
are
actively
looking
for.
E
C
Not
have
extend,
you
know,
they
may
not
have
had
interest
in
this
site
for
the
long
term
in
either
case,
because
I've
had
those
problems
with
definite
vandalism
and
the
building
is
not
in
Prime
condition
either
they
had
to
put
in
a
five
thousand
dollar
heating
and
cooling
system.
You
could
see
the
equivalence
at
least
heating
for
sure
a
couple
years
back.
The
city's
position
is,
is
you
know
the
IRA
is
the
landlord
to
them?
Is
that
don't
expect
us
to
make
improvements?
C
If
you
make
improvements,
we
can
offset
the
rent
to
accommodate
your
improvements
into
the
building,
for
whatever
reason
they
didn't,
they
didn't
go
for
that.
I
didn't
even
know
they
put
a
new.
He
didn't.
C
So
this
seems
to
be
you
know,
everybody's
in
agreement
that
they're
going
they're
going
to
move,
and
we
need
to
take
action
to
extend
the
lease
because
the
lease
term
is
up
and
the
framework
is
that
the
city
leases
the
bumps
the
the
site
to
the
IRA
and
the
IRA
in
turn,
subleases
it
to
South
State
Community
Center
for
the
ribs
program.
C
So
any
approval
at
the
agency
level
will
need
to
go
to
the
government
Council
for
their
approval
to
extend
the
lease
to
the
IRA
as
well,
but
it
seems
like
it's
fairly
straightforward
in
that
everybody's
in
agreement
right
at
this
point
in
time.
So
the
resolution
would
extend
at
least
to
January
2025.
there's
a
Ura
and
out
of
it
once
they
leave
well.
The
question
would
then
come
up:
what
should
the
city
do
in
this
site?
C
Is
it
dedicated
solely
to
a
pump
station,
or
is
there
an
opportunity
for
another
use
there,
but
I
think
we
would
have
to
get
guidance
from
accounting
Council.
What
their
plan
were,
you
know
would
be
going
forward
and
understand
what
the
pump
station
facility
leaves
for
for
other
use.
I
mean
they.
My
understanding
is,
they
have
to
put
some
sort
of
a
security
fencing
around
the
control.
C
So
that's
you
know
not
a
friendly
thing
necessarily
to
have
chain
link
fencing,
protecting
their
controls
and
can
it
fit
in
the
backyard
and
still
have
the
building
available.
Probably
it
is
the
first
guess,
but
that
building's
always
been
a
little
challenging.
As
is
you
know,
there's
no
parking
and
it's
not
I've
sent
a
first
class
interior
I.
Guess
somebody
thinking
about
it.
It
was
built
we
think
around
1920
as
a
pump
station
and.
C
C
This
piece
you've
got
the
lease
there
or
the
sublease
in
your
packet
and
it's
it
was
designed
to
be
affordable
for
them
and-
and
it's
been
a
pretty
strong
program
over
the
years
it
goes
up
and
down
in
terms
of
utilization
and
like
so
many
volunteer
efforts,
there
was
a
reset
in
2016
or
so,
and
it
was
2013
when
they
paused
the
operations
for
a
while,
and
then
it
restarted
them.
So
this
is
previous.
C
Not
part
of
the
agreement
because
they
were
supposed
to
come
before
they
make
the
Improvement
and
to
get
it
approved
as
a
true
Improvement,
not
just
like
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
we
put
a
swimming
pool
and
we're
not
going
to
reimburse
you
for
the
swimming
pool.
But
if
you
do,
you
know
if
they'd
come
and
ask
for
that,
I
think
that
that
would
have
very
likely
been
something
that
would
have
been
eligible
for
a
reduction.
C
What
we
would
have
done
in
that
case
is
we
would
reduce
their
rent
down
to
50
percent
until
that
is
paid
back.
That
was
the
framework
for
the
release
going
forward.
I
mean
that
money
has
now
been
paid
to
the
city
that
was
collected
over
those
years
and
the
city.
You
know
it's
hard
to
pull
that
back
out
that
way.
Although
I
I
expect
that
South
Side
may
be
approaching
common
Council
in
terms
of
assistance
with
the
relocation,
that's
something
own.
C
D
D
The
only
thing
I
note
is
they
in
their
letter
to
us,
one
had
a
different
retinol
and
what
is
well
they're
referencing.
The
second
is
talking
about
month
to
month,
and
this
is
not
a
month
month.
C
Yeah
they
they're
referencing
the
rent.
So
it's
a
CPI
rent
increase
that
occurs
every
July,
so
it
went
up
to
508
from
498
or
something
yeah.
C
D
Yeah
I'll
get
all
those
in
favor,
so
we're
going
to
jump
now
down
as
well.
Let's
jump
down
to
other
old
business
that
we've
done
to
see
then,
unless
they
have
computers
on
and
I
guess
complicated,
and
we
don't
quite
have
four
o'clock
so
don't
want
to
be
here
before
5B.
So
let's
do
six
a
b
and
c
sure:
okay,
okay.
E
C
Grant
summary
a
loan
repayment
report
and
a
lease
payment
report
properties
of
the
agency
manages
there's
a
good
news
on
the
grant.
Summary
report
is
that
we
just
got
noticed
that
our
2023
action
plan
has
been
approved
by
Hud,
so
you'll
once
we
get
formal,
the
grant
agreement
has
to
be
signed
by
the
mayor
and
we'll
start
loading
in
the
2023
actions
here
there'll
be
none
of
them
will
have
any
spend
down,
of
course,
initially,
but
tracking
the
spend
down
we're
we're
doing
all
right
on
the
spend
Downs
generally
speaking
and
I.
C
Think
that's
partially,
because
the
agency
didn't
over
subsidize
some
of
the
programs
that
had
running
totals
and
we're
we've
got
most.
Every
project
is
pretty
much
online
with
what
our
expectations
or
expenditures
I
have
one.
You
know,
there's
one
red:
no,
it's
the
security
deposit,
assistance,
delivery
and
that's
kind
of
a
quirky
one,
because
we
pay
Tompkins,
Community
Action,
sixty
dollars
for
inspection.
They
do
or
a
tenant-based
rental
assistance
when
we
provide
a
security
deposit
or
something
like
that.
C
So
I
think
it's
just
no,
because
the
timeline
is
running
out
of
that
it's
2500.
So
it's
not!
It's
not
a
big
deal,
but
we
need
to
follow
up
on
it
and
get
them
just
voters.
I
think,
is
the
issue.
C
C
They
were
unattended,
attendant
rental
assistance
program
for
six
youth
that
we're
working
with
them
right
now
to
try
to
increase
the
speed
that
voucher.
For
that.
D
C
C
Okay
yeah,
so
we
list
all
of
our
grant
funds.
Well,
the
two
funding
sources,
Community
Development
block
grant
and
the
home
program.
We
get
about
670
000
from
the
cdbg
program
and
about
300
000
from
home.
The
cdbg
program
has
a
an
expenditure
deadline
required
or
an
expenditure
threshold.
We
have
to
meet
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
stay
in
good
graces
with
the
program.
If
we
fall
out
of
good
graces
with
our
spend
down
and
don't
spend.
C
C
Is
that
we
can't,
once
a
year
at
the
end
of
May,
we
have
can't
have
more
money
unspent
from
cdbg
than
1.5
times
our
current
branding
work.
So
basically
it's
a
million
dollars.
We
can't
have
more
than
a
million
dollars
of
approved
grants
that
have
not
that
have
not
been
expended.
So
that
means
we
have
to
keep
pushing
people
more
or
less
on
the
15-month
schedule
to
spend
out-
and
we
just
made
it
this
year
closely
coming
out
of
covet
a
lot
of
communities,
we're
not
making
it
because
they
had
a
pause.
C
A
lot
of
programs
that
had
face-to-face
contact,
we've
had
a
strong
record
I
think
we
missed
it
once
in
the
last
10
years,
so
we've
been
good,
but
what
it
has
meant
is
that
it's
hard
to
keep
a
large
Loan
Fund
capitalized,
because
if
money
is
sitting
in
a
Loan
Fund
ready
to
be
loaned
out,
that's
not
being
expended
until
we
actually
approve
the
loan
and
then
dispersed
the
loan
out
over
today.
C
So
it's
worked
against
us
to
be
able
to
keep
a
larger
capitalization
for
loans,
but
otherwise
it
makes
sure
we're
putting
pressure
on
people
to
spend
down
and
use
the
money
and
put
it
into
the
community,
which
I
think
is
Honey's
goal.
So
that's
that's.
The
the
metric
for
spend
down
the
home
program
is
a
six-year
spend
down
recognization.
It
takes
longer
to
build
homes
and
send
it
I
think
you
can
extend
into
eight
years
in
certain
circumstances,
but
the
home
program
has
a
longer
time
frame
and
no
no
internet
checks.
C
So
if
you
don't
spend
it
by
the
end
of
the
time
frame,
it
goes
right
now.
So
those
are
the
what
we
track
the
projects
and
we
also
track
to
see
of
their
other.
It's
a
chance
to
see.
If
somebody's,
not
spending,
you
know,
what's
up
with
the
project,
is
it
you
know?
Are
they
waiting
for
something
on
their
feasibility
issues
or
are
they
just
not
reporting
to
us?
We
do
require
quarterly
reports
as
well
for
active
programs,
but
that's
more
of
a
narrative
report.
C
So
it's
good
to
keep
track
of
this
way
to
see
where
we
stand
with
these,
and
we
should
you
know
we
want
to
close
out
the
2019
one.
We
have
115
dollars
left.
Let's,
let's
get
into
the
schedule,
you
know
right
so
as
soon
as
we
spend
them
all
down,
we
hold
it
for
one
more
month
and
then
we
take
it
out
this
sheet,
and
so
that's.
C
The
loan
repayments
are
the
repayable
loans
and
some
of
them
that
are
not
repayable
or
not
like
to
be
refillable,
because
they're
designed
to
be
deferred
at
the
end
of
the
period
but
again
we're
listening
here
all
of
our
borrowers
and
we're
showing
only
one
is
past
due
on
this
sheet,
which
is
bsj
Holdings,
which
is
trace
or
Dos
Amigos
Restaurant
up
in
college
town,
and
that's
a
very
small
amount
that
they
owe
us
and
they're
still
in
the
drawdown
period
of
their
loan.
So
we
have
to
bill
them
ourselves.
C
C
They're,
okay,
yeah,
and
it
was
just
it's
just
that
we
have
to
generate
their
their
partial
dispersed
funds,
apply
the
interest
rate
to
it,
build
them,
and
then
they
have
to
pay
us
back,
and
it
just
doesn't
quite
go
as
quick
as
having
a
standard
monthly
payment
that
you
just
pay
the
same
amount
every
month,
our
loan,
our
lease
payments
numbers
are,
you
know
where
we
have
fewer
and
few
releases
that
we're
managing
as
the
Cherry
Street
Industrial
Park
has
converted
from
businesses
that
are
are.
B
C
From
the
IRA
to
them
buying
out
their
properties
and
therefore
they
pay
off
whatever
was
owed
and
they're
they're
out
of
it.
So
we
used
to
have
quite
a
long
list
of
leases
at
Cherry
Street.
We
have
we're
really
we
have
any
I,
don't
think
we
haven't
driven
yeah
I.
Think
of
that
true
yeah,
we
don't
we've
we've
finished
off
the
last
one
out
there.
We
don't
have
any
more
cherry
Spruce
out,
so
you
can
see
that
we
can
see.
C
The
farmer's
market
is
one
synopolis
is
another
South
Side
CUNY
Center
is
actually
one
month
late
now
on
their
ribs
payment.
That
shishop
is
read,
I,
don't
know
why
they
didn't
show
up
I'm,
saying
it's
current,
but
oh
June
they're
current
they're
they're
they're.
They
they
missed
their
July
payment,
that's
what's
going
on!
C
They
have
paid
six
months
in
our
in
advance,
so
it's
hard
to
keep.
They
don't
really
keep
track
of
it
on
a
month
by
month
basis,
so
by
and
large
it's
showing
that
their
finances
are
there's
no
issues
with
any
of
these
statements
that
I
see
but
happy
to
answer
questions
and
it's
a
good
way
to
think
about
who
are
who
are
counter
parties.
You
know
when
you
look
at
these
these
documents.
C
Okay,
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
committee
to
weigh
in
or
maybe
think,
a
little
bit
for
a
future
meeting
of
weighing
in
on
our
development
of
our
five-year
strategic
plan.
So
the
community,
the
HUD
Grant,
requires
that
we
have
a
five-year
strategic
plan
and
then
each
year
there's
a
one-year
action
plan
that
one-year
action
plan
is
kind
of
the
list
of
activities
that
we're
going
to
fund,
by
name
and
by
specific
budget
number.
C
C
Citywide
needs,
but
it's
adopted
by
the
IRA.
We
don't
bring
it
to
the
accounting
Council
and
it
really
guides
the
grant
program
for
the
next
five
years.
So
every
activity
we
fund
is
supposed
to
be
able
to
serve
one
of
the
goals
that
that
we
identify
and
have
to
address
at
least
one
of
the
priority.
Community
Development
needs
so
I've.
C
Given
you
a
packet
not
in
a
particularly
friendly
way
to
read,
but
it's
the
way
we
submitted
to
HUD
the
the
goal
statements
we
have
so
five
goal
statements,
and
also
the
list
of
priority
needs
that
we
currently
have
identified
any
need.
That's
identified
on
that
list.
That
looks
like
this
long
list
here
that
is
listed.
Whether
it's
high
or
low,
is
eligible
for
us
to
undertake
an
activity
to
address.
If
it's
not
listed
here,
then
it's
not
an
eligible
use
for
cdbg
or
home
phones.
C
You
know
which
projects
or
categories
you
think
cdpg
funds
are
most
useful
for
most
impactful
for
because
we
usually
get
a
lot
more
applications
for
public
services
than
we
have
funds
for
and
without
narrowing
down
the
categories,
we're
not
giving
any
direction
of
the
applicants.
People
come
and
ask
whatever
they
want,
and
that
can
work
too.
C
But
you
know
it's
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
hone
our
our
Focus
and
particularly
I
think
looking
at
the
kind
of
overarching
goal
statements
can
be
useful
too,
as
well,
where
we've
listed
like
you
know
the
five
for
some
reason
like
they
just
it's
important,
but
the
they're
very
general.
You
know
like
increased
physical
and
economic
Mobility.
We
need
essential
needs
from
Human,
shelter,
affordable,
housing,
those
kind
of
things.
So
this
is
really
an
opportunity
for
you
to
raise
for
the
agency
and
the
issues
that
you
think
under
Economic.
C
Development
should
be,
you
know,
focused
on
in
the
future
or
should
or
should
be,
you
know,
should
we
it's
actually
kind
of
direct
the
Consolidated
plan
in
certain
directions,
and
so
this
is
going
to
be
best
just
to
start
up
as
like
the
pink
piece
for
you
or
and
come
back
to
another
meeting
and
see,
if
there's
any
ideas
that
come
out
of
here
or
you
can
say,
these
are
exactly
what
we
want
anyway
and
not
have
any
particular
feedback.
What
will
happen
with
the
process
is
a
Nissan
visible?
C
The
Community,
Development
planner
will
do
anything
and
by
consultation
process
with
a
lot
of
the
stakeholders
in
the
community
and
a
public
participation
process.
So
she'll
she'll
be
using
probably
our
current
five-year
strategic
plan
as
a
starting
point
and
asking
people
for
input
or
if
they
want
to
see
any
direction
for
the
community,
which
will
then
direct
how
the
cdbg
and
home
funds
will
get
utilized
so
that
process
will
start
this
fall.
We've
got
plenty
of
time
for
input
from
this
committee
or
the
agency,
but
I
just
want
to
get.
C
You
started
understanding
the
framework
that
we
need
to
adapt
a
new
Five-Year
Plan
by
next
June.
So
we're
kind
of
we
got
a
little
bit
of
lead
time,
but
it's
it
with
with
the
required
procedures
it
will.
We
will
need
six
months
of
work
to
follow
the
process.
C
I
would
have
to
say
generally
if
we
create
a
plan.
That
is
given
the
fact
that
the
agency
does
not
pre-identify
priorities
and
we
were
reactive
to
community
groups
coming
forward.
The
I
think
the
framework
has
been
keep
as
many
options
open
for
people
to
submit
applications
for
Community
Development
needs
that
are
eligible
under
home
or
cdbg
I
mean
it
seems
to
be
kind
of
the
operating
practice.
C
The
agency
has
not
taken
in
the
past
an
effort
to
try
to
say
we
want
X
kind
of
you
know
we
want
Economic
Development
projects
or
we
want
public
service
to
do
more
sidewalks.
You
know,
but
that
has
not
really
been
the
guidance
from
the
agency.
It's
been
more
reactive
to
proposals
coming
from
the
community.
You
know
pretty
broad
goals,
they
are
very
bright.
C
C
The
goal
language
is
created
by
us
by
the
the
where
you
see
the
over,
where
it's
got
an
easy
job,
Readiness
and
placement,
and
public
service
Youth
Services.
Those
are
categories
of
eligible
funding
under
the
cdbg
program.
Right.
A
E
E
D
D
I'm
matching
those
to
a
goal
that
we
create
so
I
think
it
would
be
useful
for
this
community
in
a
future
meeting
to
look
at
the
economics
right,
because
I
do
I
think.
As
we've
talked
about,
we,
we
primarily
look
at
Economic
Development
opportunities
that
come
forward
in
the
job
Readiness
in
particular
category.
That's
the
majority-
and
we
get
a
few
in
this
application
right
so
I'd
be
curious
to
just
see,
like
other
other
things,
that
if
we
listed
them,
you
might
be
directing
community
agencies
to
Target.
D
How
were
the
priority
levels
selected?
Why.
C
Is
child
care
centered
well
yeah?
That
was
that
was
as
a
result
of
the
input
and
the
consultation
and,
in
fact,
and
a
snapshot
in
time,
because
Child
Care
is
not
probably
a
low
need
anymore,
but
at
the
time
there
were
a
number
of
new
child
care,
centers
expanding.
E
C
And
so
it
evolved
that
evolved,
but
again
as
long
as
it's
listed
there
it's
eligible
for
expenditure
or
report
funding,
and
so,
if
it's
not
listed,
then
you
have
to
worry
again.
You
know
if
we
give
you
the
full
list,
maybe
that'll
be
helpful
or
at
least
identify
which
ones
are
on
the
list
that
are
now
that
are
yes,
then,
maybe
that's
an
easier
way
to
look
at
it,
because.
D
It's
right
and
then
I
think
the
tricky
thing
around
Ed
as
well.
Nissan
stakeholder
engagement
is
to
engage
stakeholders
that
are
not
regular
users
of
the
program,
especially
if
you've
got
it.
I
don't
quite
know
how
we
do
that,
but
they
didn't
even
know
if
she
wants
to
do
and
stuff
around
that.
They
can't
even
give
her
some
idea
that
she's
going
to
work
with
the
new.
C
Dia
director
or
the
chief
executive
chief
executive
officer
and
Tom
Knight
to
try
to
get
a
few
little
more
efforts
on
those
things,
but,
generally
speaking,
we
get
more
feedback
from
not
for
profit.
You
know
human
service
agencies
right
and
a
little
less
from
the
public
facilities,
the
economic
development
categories,
housing.
It's
pretty
good
response
too,
because
you
can
identify
agencies
that
provide
the
service.
A
I
had
a
couple
of
things
that
jumped
out
at
me,
this
kind
of
first
thing
kind
of
tails
on
what
Chuck
was
asking
about.
If
everything
or
almost
everything
on
this
list
is
indicated
as
a
high
priority,
it
basically
means
everything's
the
same
priority.
You.
E
A
Low,
but
if
everything,
if,
if
almost
everything
looks
like
it's
high
priority,
then
it's
hard
to
indicate
that
we
want
to
actually
push
resources
in
a
certain
direction.
The
other
thing
that
I
thought
was
interesting
and
I
don't
know.
A
solution
to
this
is
that
some
things
that
seem
tied
together
are
kind
of
contradicting
each
other,
where
one's
prioritized
high
in
another
low
and
I
thought
of,
for
example,
new
Services
is
low,
but
job
Readiness
and
placement
is
typically
a
youth
or
a
youth,
strongly
youth.
E
C
D
C
E
C
Related
at
funding
decisions,
I'd
say
yes,
because
because
affordable
housing's
always
been
high,
you
know
that's
the
majority
of
expenditures,
and
when
we
look
I
mean
we've
tried
to
think
about
this
for
high
and
low
priority,
or
not
on
the
priority
list
of
for
use
of
un
entitlement.
Graphics,
I'm,
not
thinking
of
it
on
like.
C
What's
the
need
in
the
community,
because
we
can't
spend
money
on
certain
things
sure
and
there
might
be
other
funding
sources
available
for
some
of
these
things
where,
where
the
haunted
helmet
program
may
be
the
core
source
of
money
for
certain
things,
so
that
was
another
kind
of
way
of
thinking
about
it
like.
How
can
this
funding
be
used
differently
than
other
funding?
When
people
have
access
to
other
state
programs?
C
Maybe
they
don't
need
this
cdvg
to
fund
that
particular
activity,
whereas
others
don't
have
it
so
I
think
the
job
of
training
and
placement
programs
have
been.
We
don't
have
other
funding
sources,
easily
rentable
or
easily
available,
or
we
have
gaps
after
we
exhaust
those
right.
But
that
said.
D
I,
you
know
take
lessons,
comment
that
much
step
further
like.
Ideally,
if
this
is
truly
a
prioritization
level
activity,
it
would
be
reversed
few
or
higher
and
more
lows.
Yep
right
and
maybe
we
haven't,
you
know
we
identify
High
parking
needs
in
each
category,
but
you
know
to
have
a
whole
category
and
again
affordable
housing
everything
apply
so
that
doesn't
help
us
prioritize
within
a
quarter
files
anymore,
which
of
these
things
is
more
important.
E
C
And
we've
had
very
level
funding,
and
that
means
that
you
know
the
purchasing
value
of
that
money
has
gone
down
and
we've
been
able
to
do
less
with
the
funding
and,
as
we
can
tell
that
five
years
ago,
we're
hoping
that
we
would
have
an
upward
level
of
resources
and
we
haven't
had
that
so
again.
Maybe
all
the
more
reason
to
have
more
priority.
Prioritization
of
those
needs.
Yeah.
D
E
D
C
I
think
the
the
issue
here
is
whether
you
want
to
invite
Urban
on
Corel
C,
to
submit
a
formal
loan
application
for
codec
funds
as
a
bridge
loan
to
assist
the
Restore
New
York
project,
which
was
awarded
to
the
city.
But
the
city
has
to
identify
a
private
property
owner
who's
got
a
building,
that's
at
least
50
bacon,
to
undertake
an
eligible
Rehabilitation
project
and
that's
what
John
did
and
John
is
best
able
to
describe
this
project
and
the
financial
challenges
faced
by
that.
B
B
It's
called
small
building
participation,
Loan
program,
which
will
essentially
pair
a
long-term
30-year
fixed
rate
loan
with
a
what
they
call
a
non-payment.
Well,
it's
essentially
a
grand
source
that
also
commits
us
to
be
affordable
for
someone
earning
80
income
with
income
qualifications
during
the
30-year
regulatory
period.
So
this
has
become
like
an
actual
income,
qualified,
affordable
housing
project.
The.
B
That
we
will
use
because
of
our
participation
in
that
program
has
what
I've
described
as
relatively
unattractive
interest
rates
construction
period.
That
puts
a
pretty
large
goal
in
our
project,
but
they
are
willing
to
accept
other
lenders
to
help
us
sort
of
fill
fill
that
gap
on
specifically
the
bridge
financing.
So
we
have
a
total
of
1.85
million
in
sources
coming
between
the
Restore,
New
York
money
and
also
an
award
that
was
previously
made
from
dhcr
of
New
York
Main
Street,
that
you
know
reimbursable
sources.
B
Essentially,
we
spend
the
money
at
the
beginning
of
the
project
and
then,
when
the
Project's
100,
complete
and
stabilized
they'll,
you
know
funds
fund
money
when
the
co
is
issued
was
when
they'll
find
the
money.
So
you
know
we're
really
trying
to
sort
of
reduce
our
interest
burden
on
that,
which
is
the
minions,
is
carrying
costs
during
construction.
When
we
have
no
income,
this
building
has
to
be
completely
offline.
B
In
order
to
do
the
construction
active
is
that
that
will
take
place,
and
so
it's
you
know
both
our
highest
interest
period
of
time,
because
the
lender
sees
it
as
a
relatively
high
risk
period.
The
project
could
fail
during
construction,
whereas
a
finished
project
is
easier
to
sell,
so
they
charge
a
higher
interest
rate
for
that,
and
you
know
also
our
lack
of
income.
So
that's
that's
called
the
feasibility
issue
for
us.
B
Generally
speaking,
we're
putting
together
the
two
buildings
123
South
Yuga,
which
maybe
been
around
for
a
long
time,
is
done
at
City,
Hall
Annex.
It's
actually
connected
to
this
building
through
a
series
of
bridges
on
the
second
and
fourth
floors
and
115
to
121
South
geoga,
which,
if
you've
been
here
a
long
time,
was
the
Corner
bookstore
best
Legos
anywhere
in
town
in
the
80s
and
we're
gonna
put
them
together,
put
in
a
single
elevator.
B
So
the
the
building's
fully
accessible
115
to
121
will
have
18
apartment
six
for
four
on
two
three
and
four
and
then
the
corner,
Building
123
will
will
remain
small
format.
Commercials
with
this.
Today,
it's
a
bunch
of
you
know,
you
know
individual,
like
artist
Studios
and
you
know
small,
really
small
business
office
spaces,
which
is
an
unusual
format
in
downtown.
You
know
it's
hard
to
find
a
one
remodel
this
for
500
bucks.
B
We
have
those
there,
so
you
know
we
feel
that's
important
to
kind
of
keep
as
it
is
and
then
there'll
be
four
commercial
units
on
the
ground
floor.
We'll
do
one
of
our
new
air
source
heat
pumps.
The
building
will
be
fully
electric,
so
no
no
bus
fuels
within
the
building
and
you
know
brought
up
to
more
modern
insulation.
C
B
B
B
You
know
it's
a
lot
of
interior
Rehabilitation
work.
We
expect
to
go
relatively
quickly,
so
we
think
we
can
get
something
done
in
about
12
months.
The
last
time
we
did
a
restore
in
a
New
York
Main
Street
project,
the
Main
Street
money
came
about
two
weeks
after
the
CEO
was
issued.
The
restored
money
came
almost
three
years
later,
but
there
are
some
differences
in
how
ESD
is
project.
In
this
case.
B
B
And
so,
and
once
they
had
the
GDA
in
place
that
the
funding
actually
came
relatively
quickly
so
I
mean
you
know,
we're
sort
of
hoping
it's
more
like
you
know
three
to
six
months
after
completion,
but
we
want
to
provide
enough
time
in
there
that
if
it
does
take
a
while,
you
know
we
don't
have
to
come
back
every
month,
but
you're
going
to
be
like.
Can
you
extend
that
another
month,
while
we're
still
waiting
for
New
York
state
to
write
a.
A
E
D
E
You
just
have
one
lender,
you
shopped
it
and.
B
They're,
all
about
the
same
in
terms
of
the
unfavorable
interest
rates,
it's
going
to
be
six
and
one
well
yeah.
So
as
of
this
time,
when
we're
being
told
there's
this
particular
program,
this
is
the
participating
lender
in
this
program
and
it
comes
with
a
substantial
subsidy
from
New
York
State
I
mean
it
was
1.3
million.
B
Essentially
Grand
like
it's,
not
bad,
but
the
we
are
attempting
to
work
so
Tompkins,
Tompkins,
Community
Bank
now
is
a
participating
lender
in
other
participation
on
the
programs,
so
we're
trying
to
work
with
them
to
see.
If
they
can,
you
know,
fund
this
loan
they're,
not
sure
if
they
can
or
not,
that
that's
up
to
dhcr
and
bhcr
over
there
may
not
move
quickly
enough
to
answer
that
question
for
this
particular
project.
It'll
be
good
for
I
mean
for
the
community.
B
If
Tompkins
is
able
to
do
that
in
the
future,
so
they're
gonna,
they're
gonna
pursue
it
one
way
or
the
other
there's
a
really
excellent
program.
I
mean
it's.
You
know
it's
sort
of
latex
light,
so
it
allows
for
smaller
developers
to
do
you
know:
income
qualified,
affordable
housing
without
having
to
comply
with
the
same
level
of
regulatory
oversized
interviews
in
my
tech,
which
basically
is
complex
enough.
It
makes
it
very
hard
to
comply
for
a
small
building,
so
you
know
just
hopefully,
as
a
program
will
say,
to
use
quite
a
bit.
B
E
A
E
B
E
C
So
the
Hodag
funding
sources,
I
mentioned
by
email
is,
is
restricted
to
uses
for
affordable
rental
housing
projects.
So,
to
the
extent
that
this
is
converting
former
office
speaking
office
space
to
affordable
housing,
it
qualifies
as
an
eligible
use
for
that.
Historically,
the
agency
has
been
very
careful
about
making
loans.
C
Because
there's
no
new,
Revenue
Source
coming
I
turn
the
volume
down
because
I
think
Charles.
C
I
turn
it
off
if
I
turn
it
too
low.
I,
don't
think
Charles
can
hear
us
for
the
minutes,
I'm
afraid
that's
my
period,
so
we've
been
careful
to
use
it
because
there's
no
new
Revenue
Source
coming
into
that
pool
so
the
game.
You
know
the
practice
has
been
to
loan
it
for
short-term
loans,
get
repaid
and
use
it
again
for
activities,
because
it
is
one
of
the
few
sources
of
funds.
C
We
have
some
flexibility
with
to
support
a
project
and
we've
been
careful
to
use
to
low
low
risk
loans
and
short-term
loans,
primarily
with
the
with
the
funding
sets.
The
history
of
the
fund
is
about
670
thousand
dollars
in
that
balance
of
that
count
and
200
000
is
pledged
to
inhs
for
the
inlet
Island,
affordable,
housing
project.
C
If
this,
if
the,
if
the
next
year,
when
that
project
is
closer
towards
applying
and
maybe
receiving
life
Tech
of
funding,
the
agency
will
give
be
given
the
choice
to
use
CDB's
your
home
funds
for
that,
but
to
give
them
with
secure
financing
source.
We
make
a
loan
commitment
of
Hodag
early
on
because
we
don't
want
to
end
up
in
a
scenario
where
we
are
not
spending
down
our
money,
fast
yeah
that
is
tracked
by
Hud,
so
we
have
about
so
take
off.
200
000
we're
at
487
of
the
unencumbered
balance.
D
B
E
D
B
D
E
B
I
mean
that
would
be
catastrophic
and
but
anyways
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
terms
of
these
programs
that
we
have
to
comply
with
yeah
and
you
know,
I
mean
if
we
don't
submit
all
of
our
paperwork.
We
complied
with
the
terms
of
the
grant
program,
then
I
guess
theoretically,
they've
been
you
know
on,
we
have
been
through
I
mean
we've
been
through
both
the
store
and
Main
Street.
Before
we
know
what's
involved
in
doing
the
programs
most
of
the
compliance
work
is
done
up
front.
B
You
know
there
are
bidding
requirements
that
you
have
to
follow,
which
in
our
presently
being
administered
for
us
through
the
mainstream
program,
which
makes
takes
some
burden
of
us
on
that,
and
then
you
know
essentially
at
the
end
you
have
to
you
know,
submit
lean
releases
from
all
your
contractors
group
and
you
pay
them
and-
and
you
know,
you're
sort
of
stack
of
checks
and
invoices,
but
I
mean
you
know:
we've
been
through
that
we're
detail-oriented
in
that
regard
and
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
particularly.
C
High
risk,
Urban
Decor
has
more
experience
of
the
restored
New
York
program
than
anybody
else
in
the
community
and
they've
successfully
navigated.
Through
that
process,
the
biggest
risk
might
be
the
requirement
for
a
minority
businesses
to
be
participating
in
the
program
waiver.
Are
you
finding
those
it's
hard
to
say.
E
B
Mean
last
time
we
expected
in
a
waiver,
but
we
got
lucky
and
we
got
a
WPGC
that
actually
covered
not
only
the
requirement
for
our
project,
but
also
the
requirement
for
the
other
project
that
was
in
that
rapid,
restore
but
yeah
I
mean
that's
part
of
part
of
our
compliance
refinements.
C
At
the
beginning
of
the
project,
30
of
the
restoring
New
York
award
should
be
allocated
towards
Community
women-owned
businesses.
Right
so
I
mean
that's
about
500
training
there
and
similarly
Adam
here
at
Main,
Street
and
they're
curious
about
that
in
terms
of
dispersing
funds.
You
know
if
so
you
gotta
develop
a
plan,
and
so
that
is
one
risk
right
right,
but
you
could,
literally
by
developing
the
plan
up
front.
You
can
mitigate
it.
You
know
and.
B
B
I
mean
at
the
point
that
it's
clear
that
we'll
need
a
waiver,
we'll
see
the
waiver,
and
you
know
my
expectation
is:
if
we
follow
our
plan,
then
you
know
we're
not
successful
in
actually
identifying
the
firmly
because
they
don't
exist,
then
you
know
they
will.
C
Receive
labor,
but
that
question
would
would
come
to
bear
on
the
collateral
that
we
have
but
alone
as
well.
You
know
that
would
be
a
question
if
you
want
to
invite
this
to
go
forward.
We
want
to
have
some
exploration
of
the
collateral,
supporting
it
beyond
the
project
or
just
looking
at
the
collateral.
You
know
what
position
do
we
have
have
to
encourage
repayment
and
access.
D
A
C
C
Is
yes,
that's
a
current
obligation
we
have
to
that
project
and
that
will
remain
in
place,
at
least
until
the
next
funding
around
the
cdb
gene
home
funds.
D
E
A
A
C
Right
I
mean
if
we
follow
the
model
we
followed
in
the
past
when
a
project
is
ready
for
closer
to
disbursement
or
has
a
grant
award
where
we
converted
from
that
Hodag
loan
commitment
to
an
actual
allocation
of
cdbj
or
homelands
that
money
will
always
come
back
back
into
the
pot
and
be
released.
You
know
from
that
encumbrance
at
that
point
in
time.
The.
C
A
C
D
C
Projects
because
you
start
triggering
other
requirements,
so
you
know,
even
if
this
300
000
were
committed
and
we
had
the
ongoing
commitment
for
200
000
already.
It
still
leaves
us
about
180
000
in
the
pool
you.
C
Or
low,
because
we
did,
we
made
several
commitments
in
the
past.
I
always
couldn't
just
track
that
before
we
have
made
several
I
mean
if
I
look
at
the
list,
there's
been
about
14
different
uses
of
the
funds
yeah
historically,
but
since,
like
most
of
them,
are
commitments.
C
Of
this
ones
was
the
Eddie
gate
project
in
college
style,
which
is
the
white
building
right.
You
know
in
front
of
the
parking
garage.
This
was
a
A
system
that
used
at
one
time,
which
was
to
give
the
developer
an
upfront
Grant
and
return
well
alone.
I,
guess
it
wasn't
a
grant,
a
low
interest
loan.
You
know
some
brand
money
as
well
in
return
for
reducing
the
rents
on
20
of
the
house
units
and
then,
when
they
paid
back
the
loan
portion,
they
came
to
us.
C
C
D
Did
they
answer
the
question?
I
mean
you
most
times
just
trying
to
think
about
like
okay,
we
only
had
180
000
left
or
even
if
the
money
had
never
been
to
his
birthday
like
right.
What's
the
likelihood
we
would
be
to
reuse
on
it
again?
Well,
we
may
not
use
it.
We
might
even
get
committed
more
likely
than
user.
C
C
000
we
may
want
to
talk
about
it,
you
know
and
in
an
executive
session,
where
at
a
future
meeting
in
early
development,
you
know
investigation.
E
B
There
will
certainly
be
construction
impacts.
There
always
are
Construction
in
facts,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
that
they
will
not
be
impacted.
Everyone's
very
well
aware
that
this
project
is
happening
and
we've
been
communicating
with
our
attendance
really
well.
One
of
them
is
a
short-term
pop-up.
That's
been
popped
up
for
a
very
long
time
and
everyone
on
the
corner
is
not
planned.
B
Just
standing,
you
know
the
the
you
know
that
unit
is
Target
the
food
and
Beverages
and
basically
the
arrangement
we
have
at
that
time
and
if
they
can
stay
month
a
month
until
over
rate
or
construction.
Meanwhile,
they're
looking
for
other
spaces
that
would
you
know
meet
their
needs.
Space
is
sort
of
too
large
for
them,
yeah
for
what
what
they
really
mean
so
that
that
doesn't
will
move
as
part
of
the
merchandise
in
there,
though
I
guess
yeah
I
mean
they've
done
a
really
nice
job.
B
Activating
with
yes,
it's
been
the
emerging
there,
we're
working
with
her
to
try
to
figure
out
where
she
might
go
in
the
longer
term.
So
I
think
you
know
we
we're
committed
to
not
just
like
moving
around
on
the
street
instead
of
going
to
run
to
one
right
now
right.
No,
it
just
released
okay,
so
that-
and
you
know
again-
everybody's
been
very
welcome
into
this
thing-
is
coming
they're
going
to
be
some
benefits
to
them.
B
A
B
B
D
B
A
B
Of
the
so
there
were
two
reasons:
I
was
done.
One
is
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
in
some
other
partners
that
won't
be
partners
in
the
rest
of
our
report
and
the
other
is
that
the
board
of
Housing
Programs.
Typically,
they
require
a
single
purpose
and
only
one
asset
so
and
we
couldn't
just
use
the
urban
core
sure
that
makes
sense.
So,
apparently,
we
had
to
come
up
with
a
new
name
that.
B
A
C
Right,
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
material
in
the
in
the
pack
in
the
in
the
package
to
try
to
give
you
a
sense
if
you
wanted
to
dig
into
it,
but
essentially
an
urban
reading
project
involving
the
agency
involves
us
selling,
Ira
or
city-owned
land
to
a
developer
for
a
public
private
partnership
project
that
provides
Community
benefits
and,
in
this
case
we're
looking
at
the
parking
lots
on
Inland
island
is
the
primary
real
estate
that
is
controlled
by
the
IRA
in
the
city
and
trying
to
convert
those
underutilized
parking
lots
into
something.
C
That's
that's
an
improvement
for
the
community.
In
this
case,
the
developer
that
was
chosen
has
worked
with
the
agency
on
defining
the
project.
It
includes
the
affordable
housing
about
55
unit,
affordable
housing
project,
a
probably
a
hundred.
Well,
let's
say
122
room
extended
stay
hotel
which
they
keep
calling
a
hometel
which
doesn't
have
a
definition
anywhere
else,
but
it's
not
it's.
It's
focused.
It
would
allow
people
to
have
longer
stays
in
their
with
lower.
They
don't
expect
to
have
nightly
kind
of
made
Services
kind
of
housekeeping
services.
C
Yeah
I
know
it's
true
and
then
an
enhanced
public
component
of
the
island
for
the
to
kind
of
finish
off
what
was
started
many
years
ago
with
the
kind
of
walkway
along
the
flood
control
Channel.
But
it's
kind
of
rough.
You
know
it's
just
it's
kind
of
just
the
start
of
what
it
what
it
could
be
so
trying
to
enhance.
C
That
is
a
place
where
would
attract
the
public
to
use
that
space
and
activate
that
a
little
bit
more,
possibly
with
the
peer
at
the
end
of
the
island
that
would
be
Public
Access
as
well,
and
trying
to
just
make
sure
that
the
public
feels
welcome
to
use
that
Waterfront
and
there's
more
reason
for
them
to
come
to
that
Waterfront
and
music.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
major
goals.
One
of
the
challenges
of
this
project
is
that
the
ownership
is
a
little
bit
fractured
that
New
York
State
Department
of
Environmental
Conservation
Imports.
C
C
But
that
conflicts
with
kind
of
a
public
Recreation
activity,
a
housing
use,
at
least
during
the
process
of
doing
it,
which
could
take
more
than
one
season,
and
they
like
to
do
this
during
spring
summer
and
fall.
They
don't
do
it
in
winter
time.
Apparently,
so
we
were
negotiating.
How
could
those
two
things
mesh
together?
C
How
can
we
get
dredging
and
get
a
development
project,
and
the
idea
was
that
there
would
be
a
land
swap
between
the
city
and
DEC,
in
that
the
city
would
acquire
the
postcard
auxiliary
property
for
utilization
and
Redevelopment.
The
Coast
Guard
would
require
a
permanent
easement
area
right
next
to
where
the
Route
89
Bridge
goes
over
the
island
or
over
to
the
West
Hill,
and
use
that
as
a
base
of
operations
for
pumping
the
right
kind
of
below
the
grade
of
the
road.
C
You
wouldn't
see
it
that
much
it's
kind
of
underutilized
area
and
there'd
be
a
series
of
transfers
of
easements
to
facilitate
the
activities
going
forward.
Dc
needs
to
have
the
right
to
go
up
and
down
the
flight
control
channel
to
manage
any
any
hazards.
They
probably
would
also
be
laying
some
pipes
in
there
temporarily
during
the
dredge
activity
or
hoses
of
some
sort,
as
well
as
getting
access
to
the
Barge
Canal
on
the
other
side,
so
we've
been
negotiating
with
them
for
quite
a
while.
C
For
the
developer,
to
move
through
the
site
plan
approval
process
in
the
environmental
review
process,
but
the
developer
came
back
and
said:
I
can't
start
that
until
I
know
what's
happening
with
the
landownership
and
easements.
So
now
we
finally
have
this
guidance
that
I
received
preliminary
work
from
the
developer,
that
they
think
this
is
a
workable
framework
in
their
response
back
to
us
from
that
letter.
C
But
then
the
next
step
is
we
have
to
do
appraisals
of
the
property.
We
have
to
do
surveys
of
a
property.
We
have
to
do,
develop
deeds
and
legal
work
to
get
this
to
transfer
the
state's
not
willing
to
do
much
of
that.
They
want
us
to
prepare
everything
for
them
so
that
they
can
approve
it
and
and
bring
it
through
the
approval
process
and
there's
going
to
be
some
permanent
applications
we
have
to
make
because
DEC
landed.
Inland
is
part
of
the
flood
control
project.
C
If
you're
part
of
the
flood
control
project,
you
need
a
permission
to
do
anything
on
their
property.
That's
part
of
the
flood
control
project,
including
putting
in
a
picnic
table
on
or
Aid
you
know
a
launch
for
for
for
kayaks
or
something
like
that
which
they're
open
to,
but
as
long
as
it
doesn't
disturb
their
use
of
proper.
So
so
what
we
need
at
this
point
is
authorization
to
undertake
those
expenses
and
Advance
this
project
forward.
C
If
we
want
to
continue
going
on
with
this
project,
and
so
the
resolution
is
asking
for
authorization
to
incur
those
necessary
and
appropriate
expenses
to
advance
this
lands
transaction
with
BC,
to
get
it
to
a
point
where
decisions
can
be
made.
C
C
What
everything's
involved,
but
it's
going
to
be-
you
know,
appraisals
of
of
easements
and
various
with
various
property
rights
being
reserved.
They
have
a
very
precise
way.
They
want
to
do
have
appraisals,
and
surveys
done.
We've
found
that
on
the
hard
way
that
what
most
people
would
accept
as
a
survey
is
not
accepted
by
the
state,
unless
it's
done
exactly
to
their
procedures,
so
it
might
be
more
expensive
than
that.
We've
done
the
appra
we've
done.
C
The
survey
of
the
Coast
Guard
auxiliary
process
of
property
I
think
three
times
so
so
there
should
be
something
to
go
to
as
a
base.
I
think
it's
probably
going
to
be
between
10
and
15
000
when
we're
all
done
with
legal
appraisal.
Surveys
in
that
range,
but
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
be
until
we
until
we
go
out
and
do
it,
the
appraisals
for
all
the
properties
I
knew
that
I
am
where
it
was
nine
thousand
dollars
when
we
did
it
two
years
ago.
So
these
are
smaller.
C
Since
we
would
be
controlling
that,
because
we
would
be
procuring
that
it's
within
our
then
our
own
authority
to
do
that,
but
we
want
to
try
to
now
that
we
have
this
step
from
the
AC.
We
want
to
create
a
timeline
for
the
developer
to
perform
as
well
and
start
investing
in
the
site
plan
in
an
environmental
review
process
and
the
the
developer
also
has
to
clean
up
a
contaminated
site
on
the
property.
That's
owned:
that's
city-owned
property
that
has
petroleum
contamination.
C
Pretty
severe.
You
know
petroleum
contamination,
so
we
want
that's
another
benefit
of
a
project
as
we
clean
up
this
old
historic
petroleum
contamination
that
occurred
prior
to
the
city
acquiring
the
property,
it
was
in
bulk
fuel
storage
at
one
time
before
before
we
had
a
flint
control,
Channel,
so
I
think
the
timeline
is
something
we
need
to
negotiate
with
the
developer
and
say
we
don't
want
to
get
too
far
in
front
of
them
or
too
far
behind
them,
because
they
decide
at
some
point.
Their
project
is
no
longer
feasible.
C
Then
we
always
spend
a
lot
of
money
for
for
not
much
outcome,
but
they
are
so
far
very
committed
to
have
remained
committed
to
the
project
and
they
can
prove
that
by
advancing
the
same
plan,
review
materials
and
environmental
review
process,
you
know
they
have
to
do
traffic
studies
and
start.
You
know
start
that
full
site
plan
review
process
with
the
blending
board,
which
they
have
never
started
yet.
C
So
that's
that's
their
big
investment,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
bring
this
Tran
lands
transaction
process
forward
in
a
timeline
that
works
for
the
approvals
New
York
state
says
once
the
once
they
have.
They
were
expecting
9
to
12
months
from
now
before
before
they
would
be
in
a
position
to
actually
convey
property,
and
that's
probably.
D
C
There's
parts
of
the
project
that
can
advance
prior
to
getting
that
same
control
and
some
of
it
so
I
think
that's
one
possibility
of
what
we
want
to
try
to
do
is
get
I
mean
what
I'd
like
to
try
to
do
is
get
the
parcel.
That's
for
affordable
housing
transferred
to
inhs
for
the
next
funding
round
in
June,
which
is
it
maybe
starts
in
June
and
has
a
submission
date
of
September
or
something
that's
the
timeline
I'd
want
to
work
for
for
that
person.
C
That's
not
part
of
the
dec
Parcels
involved
there,
but
whether
the
developer,
you
know,
we've.
E
C
E
C
They
did
I
mean
the
the
dewatering
statement
was
was
completed
relatively
timely,
basically,
just
that
water
go
back
into
New
England,
it
goes
back
it
slowly
drains
out.
It
goes
back
in
through
one
of
the
inlets.
Like
you
know.
The
drain
way
between
you
know.
Walmart
leads
over
to
Wegmans,
and
you
know
those
areas
yeah.
It
naturally
goes
back
and
the.
C
C
E
C
So
yeah
it's
a
complicated
component,
but
it
would
probably
bring
us
an
opportunity
to
complete
the
Inland
Island
project
to
get
more
affordable
housing.
Improve
public
access
on
the
island
and
DC
may
be
incentivized
to
do
this
because
they
really
do
want
to
do
I
mean
the
staff
clearly
wants
to
do.
C
C
There's
a
design
for
the
dredge,
so
the
city
with
BC
support.
You
know
our
grant
from
BC
finish
the
dredging
between
the
farmer's
market
and
the
golf
course
area.
Cascadilla
Creek
was
dredged,
and
so
the
next
ones
are
the
flood
control
Channel
and
the
Q.
Inlet
are
the
next
phases
and
they
have
is
a
location
where
they
go
out
to,
and
that
is
part
of
the
flood
mitigation
plans
for
the
city
to
mitigate
flooding
in
the
future
as
well.
C
E
C
C
Site
right
next
to
the
Boatyard
grill
or
this
site
closer
to
the
Iowa,
you
know
closer
to
the
lower
day
tonight,
Bridge,
which
is
a
much
more
appropriate
location
for
some
pumping
equipment
to
be
located
for
a
season
or
two
so
I
think
there
might.
They
may
see,
there's
some
strong
benefit
to
supporting
this.
But
again
it's
got
to
go
through
a
process
which
we've
been
warned
is
not
going
to
be
less
than
nine
months
and
we
should
plan
for
12
months.
That's
probably
once
we've
submitted
the
appraisals
and
the.