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A
More
than
they
needed
in
some
respects,
yeah
yeah
I,
don't
know.
D
C
I
have
two
editions:
okay,
I'd
like
to
address
the
exclusionary,
inhs
income;
eligibility
for
lab
trust
homes,
so
problem
related
to
the
way
in
which
they
calculate
your
income,
which
excludes
basically
our
Central
workers
and
teachers,
I
Embraces,
Cornel
bedroom
shoes,
let's
say
and
second
item
I
want
a
quick
update
on
the
locals,
proposed
zoning,
State
zoning
and
environmental
overrides
of
local
zoning.
Local
environmental
review.
I
am
assuming
that
that
would
not
affect
us
since
we've
done
more
than
the
one
percent
housing
stock
increase,
but
so.
D
Just
after
you
need
a
second,
but
if
we
have
a
first,
then
you've
been
second.
Would
anybody
like
to
move
the
minutes?
Okay,
David?
Second,
any
corrections
and
additions,
Solutions
right
during
none
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes
as
written
and
if
I
saying
aye,
aye
and
the
abstentions
deletions
thanks
all
right,
new
business
and
first
I'm
going
to
see
how
many
people
actually
read
the
126
pages.
D
A
D
A
Retired
shark
bill
is
kind
of
the
CEO
now
of
the
operation
we
most
actively
work
with
their
loan
underwriter
Mike
Thomas,
who
did
the
personal
best
Brewing
underwriting
a
great
agreement
or
analysis,
and
so
Harry
hasn't
built
this
for
his
time
for
several
years.
He
weighs
in
on
issues
when
we
bring
him
up
and
as
it
relates
to
loans.
We
just
asked
a
question
about
a
prevailing
wage
question
to
to
them
yesterday
and
Harry
responded
back,
but
he
says
he's
technically
retired,
but.
D
D
Would
somebody
like
to
I
moved
it?
Did
you
move
it
I
kind
of
lost
track?
There
do
I,
have
a
second
David,
all
in
favor,
okay,
by
saying
aye.
D
Any
abstentions,
all
right,
the
next
one
is
Mariette
gildenberg
anything
you.
A
A
A
You
know
working
on
mediation
issues,
real
estate
transactions
in
our
urban
renewal
projects,
so
she
has
been
providing
good
service
to
us
and-
and
she
makes
time
for
larger
projects
where
sometimes
a
busy
or
attorney
you
know,
can't
fit
everything
in
if
we
have
a
large
project
like
an
urban
real
project
or
something
like
that
and
it
turns
around
all
over.
If
you
expect
we
do,
there
are
times
when
another
attorney
is
a
better
choice
to
use
or
can
turn
things
around,
even
quicker.
So,
let's
the
framework
for
this
approach.
C
Time
only
a
year
ago
that
we've
discussed
this
I
talked
about,
among
other
things,
taking
a
look
at
what
was
available
in
terms
of
new
younger
attorneys.
You
pointed
out
that
they're
all
that
this
is
these
days
just
like
with
the
medical
profession.
It's
all
giant
law
firms
very
few
Independents
around
and
I
thought
that
it
was
still
worth
taking
a
look
to
see
what
we
could
come
up
with
in
terms
of
recruiting
New
Blood
Marriott,
as
she
points
out
herself
has
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time.
C
A
You
actually
got
three
right
now
that
we
work
at
currently,
so
we
have
Sharon
slimowitz
and
Craig
Flaherty
with
assistance,
but
they
don't
do
real
estate.
Sharon
is
real
estate,
yes,
Sharon.
C
C
She
makes
a
point
of
her
range
of
expertise
number
of
years.
She
served
in
familiarity
and
I
will
point
out
once
again
as
I
always.
B
C
The
government
renewal
agency
didn't
own
the
land
at
the
end
of
didn't
know
in
the
end
of
cherished
that
they
still
own
the
Cherry,
Street
and
they'd
never
been
transferred
to
the
state
of
their
range
of
simple
technical
things
like
that
that
I
would
I
would
turn
to
an
attorney
because
I
figured
they're
the
crisp
ones
who
are
going
to
catch
something
like
that,
for
instance,
the
transfer
you
know
made
a
lot
of
extra
work
for
you,
Mills
you
had
to
deal
with
getting
the
deed
restrictions
removed
from
all
the
properties
which
should
never
have
been
applied
or
carried
forward
onto
all
of
the
properties,
so
once
again,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
the
level
of
service
I
vote
against
ever
but
most
of
all,
that's
where
there's
some
it's
an
opportunity
to
see
who
else
is
out
there
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
you
have
at
least
one
currently
and
whatever.
C
Whatever
ideas
we've
got
for
coming
up
with
new
and
interesting
young
attorneys,
with
what
were
very
detail-oriented.
B
Yes,
to
what
extent
do
attorneys
in
our
in
City
Halls
attorney's
office
of
Ira
victim
motorcycle
real
estate,
and
so
secondly,
to
Susan's
point:
does
the
attorney
have
to
I
I
guess
they
have
to
be
a
New
York
State
Bar
person,
but
do
they
have
to
be
a
local
person?
Everybody
works
remotely
these
days.
A
You
know
we
don't
have
any
requirement
on
that.
It's
helpful
to
have
somebody
who's.
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
to
do
New,
York
state
law,
I
mean
you
want
to
be
practicing
in
New,
York
state
right
for
sure
right.
We
do
send
most
of
our
yeah
we're
remote
or
electronically
sending
information.
So
anybody
go
ahead
in
theory.
Do
the
work
yeah.
B
A
Wouldn't
necessarily
have
the
expertise
and
familiarity
with
it,
because,
and
nor
would
their
prices
be
as
good
as
our
prices
were
getting
because
we
did
do
a
competitive
search
last
time
and
we
had
some
very
impressive
firms.
But
again
they
were
the
larger
firms.
Osterman
or
you
know
there
was
a
firm
nobody
that
did
a
lot
of
urban
renewal
and
Ida
work,
but
they're.
They
were
kind
of
at
400,
350
400
an
hour
versus
200
to
250
racing
with
local
attorneys.
B
A
This
is
more
significant
cost
on
an
hourly
basis,
but
sometimes
the
expertise
is
worth
it
when
you
have
a
specific
thing.
So
when
we
did
the
competitive
suction
process,
we
did
choose
one
firm
that
had
good
credentials
and
we
said
if
we
had
a
special
project,
we
would
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
back
and
do
another
selection
in
price
this
week
and
go
right
to
them.
A
If
we
had
this
special
project
that
we
thought
was
more
complex,
related
to
Industrial,
Development
agency,
urban
renewal
kind
of
activities-
and
we
talked
to
him-
and
they
said:
that's
fine,
they're
happy
that
you're
considering
them.
If
an
issue
comes
up
and
they
will
be
interested
in
doing
that
work.
So
we
have
that
that
opportunity.
A
If
I
made
it,
we
made
a
contact
in
some
respects
and
some
of
the
issues
citizen
race
regarding
the
Cherry,
Street
and
Nashville
Parker,
and
not
the
fault
of
the
year
of
Marriott
or
the
IRA
attorney,
because
it
was
the
city
who
subdivided
the
property,
not
the
IRA
and
left
the
IRA,
with
basically
a
landlocked
piece
of
property
that
then
had
to
be
connected
to
the
road.
My
understanding
is
that
was
an
intentional
design
medicine,
because
the
property
owner
previously
at
the
end
of
Cherry
Street
did
not
want
to
cooperate
with.
A
Was
that
Cooperative
the
city,
so
this
data
said
not
to
extend
the
road
to
their
property,
but
it
did
you
know
and
then
later
on,
we
had
to
figure
out
how?
How
do
we
make
that
when
we
acquired
that
parcel,
we
had
to
figure
out
how
to
get
it
to
be
a
buildable
parcel
and
clear
up.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
issues
need
to
be
cleaned
up,
based
on.
C
That
well
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
way
we
have
for
keeping
our
eyes
open
and
the
others
open.
For
someone
who
is
has
a
curiosity,
someone
who
will
kind
of
just
dig
into
things
or
say
hi.
B
D
B
C
Are
the
questions
that
someone
should
pause
and
not
assume
that
real
estate
transactions
are
routine
because
the
really
sharing
very
much
in
that
there
are
a
million
little
terrible
naughty
details?
And-
and
it
requires
just
that
ever
alert
curiosity.
And
so
where
do
we
find
someone
in
the
future?
Who
brings
that
to
this,
and
certainly
not
someone
from
out
of
town
with
who
can
locate
Cherry
Street,
maybe
on
a
map,
but
has
no
familiarity
with
it
and
when
you're
dealing
with
agency
and
the
city
and
the
interlocking
or
not
interlocking
of
regs
bureaucracies.
A
This
question
about
using
the
City
attorney
staff
historically,
the
IRA
25
years
ago,
relied
on
the
City
attorney
and
the
controller
to
cut
checks
and
do
legal
reviews
and
what
our
history
was.
We
were
at
the
bottom
of
the
pile
wall,
he's
been
over
the
top
priority,
and
so
essentially
when
we
became
an
internal
Community,
an
implicit
agreement
was
that
we
get
to.
We
use
the
administrative
planning
funds,
but
we
will
administer
the
program
by
Hiring,
Our
Own
attorneys
and
that
will
be
coming
a
workload
item
under
the
city.
A
Now
the
city
attorney's
office
has
expanded
its
capacity
in
the
last
couple
years
in
part,
because
they've
faced
a
lot
of
extra
demands
on
their
on
their
workload.
So
we
do.
We
do
work
with
Victor
quite
a
bit
on
a
number
of
issues,
but
they
don't
tend
to
be
the
IRA
Grant
agreements
or
urban
renewal
projects.
Well,
they,
you
know
victories
involved
in
reviewing
the
inlet
Island
project
or
we're
negotiating
the
EUC
on
a
land
swap.
A
So
he
is
actively
involved
in
that
transaction,
but
the
thing
to
rely
on
the
city
attorney's
office,
when
you
put
us
back
into
that
we're
not
going
to
be
the
top
priority.
B
D
D
B
D
Everything
that
the
cost
for
and
the
other
attorneys
is
very
reasonable
compared
to
what
you
would
find
other
terms,
possibly
charging,
so
it
might
be
I'm.
A
Exactly
you
can
rarely
see
a
paralegal
component
who
are
doing
so
I,
don't
know
it's
only
attention
to
music
because
I
have
to
use
extra
services.
D
Abstained
or
opposed
three
eyes:
one
of
okay.
Now
we're
moving
on
to
Sharon
Lewis.
If
I
say
that
correctly
and
do
you
want
to
spend
just
a
second
saying
what
she
does
as
opposed
to
other
people's
race,
we're.
A
Trying
to
groom
her
and
she
has
picked
up
the
mandolin
in
two
low-income
housing
tax
credit
project
closings,
which
are
those
complex
state-funded,
usually
inhs,
projects
that
have
six
Attorneys
at
the
table
and
lots
of
extra
regulations
and
lots
of
reading.
Last
time.
Our
bill
for
that
work
was
about
twenty
thousand
dollars,
which
was
reimbursed
by
inhs
or
the
IRA.
So
we
used
to
have
Richard
reswick,
who
was
kind
of
our
expert
on
home
regulations
and
closings
on
low
income.
Housing
tax
credits.
Sharon
has
taken
that
up.
A
It's
a
good
project
for
someone
who
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
other
IRA
work,
because
you
need
to
focus
kind
of
on
a
on
their
timeline
and
have
kind
of
a
four
or
six
week
intensive
time
period.
When
you
have
to
review
documents
and
represent
the
IRA
and
multi-party
document
negotiation
associations.
To
make
sure
that
our
that
we're
meeting
the
regulations,
they
always
want
to
propose
a
structure
that
doesn't
meet
the
home
regulations
and
the
first
time
around,
and
then
we
get
it
right.
A
C
D
B
A
Was
the
senior
assistance
in
the
attorney
I
know
has
a
regular
daytime
job
that
agreed
to
well,
which
is
why
they
do
RFP
to
do
to
do
some
Area
worksheet,
coordinated,
quite
a
bit
in
City,
Hall
and
various
issues,
so
we're
familiar
with
her
and
she's
familiar
with
us.
She
really
wants
to
stick
to
just
doing
contract
review,
which
was
her
primary
job
by
the
state.
Attorney's
office
was
contract,
development
and
review
as
well
as
spoil
requests.
A
So
she
would
be
a
good
resource
for
foil
questions
as
well
for
any
good
information
act,
issues
and
she's.
You
know
relatively
small
contract,
hopefully
do
not
exceed
four
thousand
dollars,
probably
generally
speaking,
we're
going
to
do
the
four
digit
contract
with
her
probably
for
her
review.
When
we
do
a
funding
agreement,
yeah.
D
D
A
There's
only
two
small
proposed
amendments
in
the
citizen
participation
plan.
The
first
one
is
a.
B
A
8.6
or
or
page
13
of
the
central
participation
plan,
this
is
the
system.
Participation
plan
is
a
requirement
to
ensure
our
processes.
We're
utilizing.
Cbg
funds
have
a
have
meet
the
requirements
for
providing
for
citizen
participation,
and
then
we
throw
around
some
specialized
terms
in
here.
The
Consolidated
plan
is
the
five-year
strategic
plan
that
we're
required
to
develop
when
we
receive
cdb
to
your
own
funds.
The
action
plan
is
the
one-year
implementation
plan
on
a
yearly
basis
of
listed
projects
to
be
funded.
A
The
then
there's
a
fair
housing
component
to
this
and
then
there's
something
called
program,
amendments
which
are
changes
to
either
a
Consolidated
plan
or
actually
plan
or,
if
you're,
a
housing
plan.
So
again,
a
lot
of
it
seems
like
a
small
element
regarding
those
amendments,
but
they
come
up
quite
frequently.
So
if
we
identify
a
project
for
funding
in
one
year,
like
we
did
with
extreme
blade,
Community
was
to
continue
their
job
training
program
where
they
then
requested
that
it
be
converted
to
a
job,
a
loan
for
job
creation.
A
That
was
a
change
in
the
plan
that
required,
which
we
call
it
program
Amendment,
and
that
was
a
substantial
program
I'm
in
versus
a
minor
program
Amendment
and
our
substantial
program,
and
that
requires
certain
processes
to
be
followed,
such
as
a
public
hearing
and
a
vote
by
County
Council
and
that's.
This
is
the
plan
where
it
defines
what
steps
you
have
to
jump
through.
When
does
a
change
in
our
plans
require?
A
When
can
the
IRA
movement?
When
is
there
a
need
for
a
public
hearing
when
this
County
Council
need
to
approve
it
and
when
discard
need
to
approve
those
changes?
So
the
first
one
on
page
46
is
really
enshrining
in
our
policy
a
Federal
Regulation
that
we
were
not
that
aware
of
and
I'll
get
back
in
the
way,
documentaries
and
it's
regarding
a
program
Amendment.
So
you
can
that
that
section
is
subtitled,
citizen
review,
a
proposed
substantial
program
amendments
and
so
what
I'm?
A
What
we're
proposing
to
add
here
is
that
HUD
approval
is
actually
required
of
a
substantial
program
event.
We
always
have
followed
the
process
of
the
IRA,
approving
it
holding
a
public
hearing.
You
can
bring
it
to
County
Council.
We
have
not
always
formally
waited
for
HUD
approval
to
start
implementing
that
program
and
now-
and
so
it
was
pointed
out,
the
regulations
are
clear.
The
practice
is
a
little
more
hazy,
but
the
practice
is
clear
that
we
we're
going
to
be
careful.
A
We
want
to
make
sure
we
get
HUD
approval
for
that
substantial
Amendment,
so
we
were
the
way
that
you
amend
a
program
at
a
an
action
plan
or
a
strategic
plan.
As
you
go
into
the
into
the.
A
Where
it
holds
our
plans
and
we
write
in
an
amendment
section
and
then
we
wait
for
HUD
to
approve
it,
but
usually
we
don't
have
to
actually
wait
for
under
approvement.
It's
a
shame
that
we're
doing
it
correctly
and
we
can
move
forward,
but
the
regulation
says
prior
event.
Approval
is
necessary,
so
this
is
going
to
clarify
it
for
us
that
before
we
write
that
funding
agreement
for
that
activity
and
a
new
activity,
for
example,
we
will
wait
for
Heidi
to
formally
approved
that
and
then
so.
A
This
is
reminding
us
that
there's
a
regulation,
that's
education,
you
gotta!
Not
just
you
can't
just
definitely
console
you
have
to
go
to.
How
do
you
get
that
final
approval
if
it
falls
into
this
category
of
a
substantial
Amendment
which,
which
generally
is
to
spend
more
than
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
on
a
program
that
you
didn't
anticipate?
You
know
you're
moving
money
around
up
to
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
You
can
kind
of
spread
around
without
triggering
all
those
things.
A
A
Approve
something:
well,
that's
a
trick,
so
you
submit
it
and
then
it's
pending
the
review
and
you
wait,
you
wait
and
then
it
says
what
am
I
doing
it
and
then
you
wait
and
you
wait
and
eventually
you
call
them
up
and
say
hey
what
about
that.
It's
been
in
there
for
four
weeks.
You
know
you
have
an
issue,
what
do
you
know
and
then
they
will
convert
it
to
a
reviewed
or
accept
it
or
something
like
that.
A
As
the
term
Charles
says,
most
of
the
ideas
were
so
he's
more
familiar
with
the
well
actually
underneath
it
does
the
actual
Amendment
submission.
So
so
it's
a
variable
at
the
very
time,
and
sometimes
we
have
to
like
follow
up
and
say
this
has
been
sending
over
six
weeks.
You
know,
can
you
can
you
convert
it
to
it
to
approved
so.
B
A
Of
the
delay
yeah,
we
would,
we
would
Advocate
to
get
get
an
answer
quicker.
If
that
were
an
issue
perform
approval,
it
takes
a
while
to
develop
the
agreements
and
get
the
parties
together
in
science.
So
usually
it's
not
a
problem,
but
sometimes
there
are
delays
or
questions
that
come
up
from
Hollywood
that
you
know
they
want
to
see
the
legal
notice
that
went
out
for
the
public
hearing
or
something
like
that
or
have
a
question
about
the
wording
we
used,
which
was
something
they
did
a
few
months
ago.
A
So
the
question
careful
way
is
to
wait
for
that
formal
approval.
You
can
start
developing
documents
in
the
meantime.
You
know
just
don't
sign
the
agreement,
so
it
works
out
generally
pretty
well
in.
D
D
Was
a
period
okay,
that
was
a
pandemic
one.
It's
so
is
this
just
a.
A
A
A
The
bit
more
stringent,
we
can't
never
ever
case,
make
it
less
for
eight
millions
of
process,
but
we've
discussed
issues
like
is
a
legal
ad
in
the
newspaper
really
a
viable
way
to
get.
A
But
the
other
side
of
that
coin
is,
if
you
make
a
procedural
requirement
in
here:
you've
got
to
follow
it.
If
you
don't
you've
got
a
fluid
system.
You've
got
to
start
over
from
the
beginning,
so
you
don't
want
to
make
it
so
complex.
There's
so
many
steps
that
you
know
that
that
you
run
into
technical
violations
that
you
you
know
that
really
delay
things.
C
I'm
trying
to
understand
the
process
by
which
the
informal
processes
which
go
into
a
program
Amendment
or
program
change
when
the
agency
says
oh,
something,
isn't
working
without
a
change
or
altered.
C
Are
we
in
a
situation
where
you
have
people
within
Hub
Representatives
that
you
run
ideas
or
concepts
or
problems
by
is
that?
Is
there
an
opportunity
for
back
and
forth
informal
input
so
that
when
something
is
finally
sent
into
those
sent
into
them,
it's
not
just
sitting
there
cold.
Somebody
said
it's
like
oh
good.
Here's
the
thing
we've
been
waiting
for
I
mean
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
happen.
Yeah.
We
have
an.
A
Assignment
representative
I've
gone
back
and
forth
about
having
expertise
by
program
or
having
a
designated
person
for
the
community
right
now,
they're
in
the
framework
I'm
a
dedicated
person
for
the
community
that
covers
all
programs
for
HUD,
including
the
Continued
Care
programs.
You
know
homeless
programs
as
well
as
cdbg
at
home
and
I
think
maybe
via
you
know,
probably
some
of
a
couple.
Other
programs
as
well.
A
Yeah,
generally
speaking,
although
I
think
there's
much
more
federal
government
remote
working
than
a
lot
of
other
employers,
rashika
has
been
our
rep
for
over
a
year,
two
years,
yeah
and
she's
a
very
communicated
and
we
email
regularly.
She
needs
to
talks
with
her
regularly
and
she
pointed
to
training
and
things
of
interest
to
us,
so
yeah
we're
pretty
engaged
whether
she's
got
expertise
in
every
you
know:
she's,
not
Harry
Sacrament.
A
D
A
Vote
so
there's
two
amendments,
that's
the
First
Amendment,
which
is
just
making
it
very
clear
in
our
policy
that
we
also
have
to
get
that
approval
from
HUD
on
a
substantial
amount.
We
don't
have
very
many
substantial
amendments,
maybe
one
every
three
years
or
something
one
over
two
years
and
that's
usually
because
somebody
can't
complete
a
program
or
there's
a
chain.
They
want
to
relinquish
their
funds
and
we
have
to
reprogram
it
to
another
activity.
The
opportunity.
A
A
So
that's.
This
is
on
page
15
of
the
of
the
policy
and
it's
page
48
of
your
PDF
I.
Don't
have
a
great
word
in
here,
but
I
think
that
it
captures
kind
of
what
the
committee's
view
was,
and
they
said.
Essentially
they
don't
want
to
get
too
overboard
on
it,
but
they
also
they
want
to
recognize
that
they're
oftentimes
on
substantiated
claims
made
and
there's
no
way
to
verify
them.
You
know,
but
you
do
have
whistle
Jeweler
type
of
issues
where
you
want
to
be
aware
of
what
people
are
raising.
A
So
this
is
really
saying
yet
we
accept
some
communities,
don't
accept
them,
they
get
say
you
know,
identify
it.
We're
not
going
to
even
accept
your
your
comment
and
that
they
be
treated
Case
by
case
spaces
and
but
with
the
agency,
doesn't
have
an
obligation
to
research
or
respond
because
oftentimes
they
create
the
one
we
had
raised,
raise
allegations
about.
You
know
the
individual
in
the
after
traffic
organization
that
was
appointed
for
funds.
What
are
we
going
to
do
with
this?
You
know
how
do
we
deal
with
this?
A
So
they
they
sorted
it
out
by
thinking
through
the
issues
and
I
believe
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
project
was
not
even
in
the
final
tier
for
selection
for
funding,
but
it
certainly
created
some
questions
like
what
do
we
do
so
Anisa
went
to
Marriott
and
said
you
know
you
have
choices,
you
can
accept
them,
you
can
you
can
you
can
say
you're
not
going
to
set
them,
but
it'd
be
better
if
you
had
some
sort
of
a
framework
for
how
you
plan
to
deal
with
them,
and
so
the
ni
committee
I
think
what
I'm
writing
in
here
is
a
proposed
amendment
with
the
music
review
is
essentially
what
bnic
committee
did
two
years
ago
is
you
know
they
said:
let's
accept
it,
let's
considerate,
it's
a
consideration,
but
we're
not
going
to
do.
A
We
would
consider
it
I
think
the
question
is
we're
looking
at
funding
projects
typically,
so
if
it's
not
a
so
it's
not
in
the
top
tier
for
consideration,
probably
not
because
you
wouldn't
be
just
saying,
but
if
it
was
a
project
that
was
intended
to
you
know,
seem
to
be
in
a
category
for
funding
competitive
for
that
we'd
want
to
have
the
agency
make
some
decisions,
but
otherwise
they
receive
I
wouldn't
want
to
make
a
decision
myself.
A
We've
only
had
I
think
only
one
Anonymous
comment,
and
at
least
I
want
to
refer
you
in
the
last
couple
years,
but
I
can
see
how
they
would
there
may
be
more
so
this
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
framework
not
much.
It
gives
a
lot
of
flexibility
but
says
you
know
somebody
wants
to
submit
an
honest
comment,
we'll
receive
it
and
it's
iterated.
B
D
A
B
D
B
D
You
think
about
a
lot
of
housing.
A
lot
of
people
are
afraid
to
come
forward
to
their
friends
who's
in
their
housing
right,
so
yeah
I
certainly
can
see
where
you
get
a
lot
of.
You
know.
People
should
be
able
to
do
that
anyway.
Any
other
questions
can
we
vote
for
both
of
these
together
or
do
they
applications?
B
B
D
It
was
impressive
all
the
steps
that
had
to
be
taken.
You
know
right.
That's
the
month,
I
didn't
print
out.
The
participation
plan
consolidate
plan,
the
active
plan,
the
assessment,
fair
housing,
that's
a
lot
of
steps
to
go
through
and
where
are
we
in
the
Consolidated
plan?
Where
are
we
year?
Three,
we
are
finished
year.
Three
we're
finished
five
years
strategic
plan.
Yes,
so,
somewhere
in
here,
I'm
sure
I
read
that
it
had
something
had
to
be
submitted.
200
and
some.
A
D
A
A
So
at
the
beginning
of
that
Consulting
a
planning
process
occurs.
You
know
like
October,.
B
D
D
A
A
It
depends
heavily
on
the
keeper
which
is
document
later
on
in
the
agreement
that
Consolidated
cheaper
evaluated
assessment
performance
frequently
again
remember
to
consolidate
an
annual
performance
evaluation
report,
which
is
basically
a
look
at
a
Look
Backwards
at
the
most
recent
years
activities
and
so
they're
using
that
as
an
input
when
they
look
at
our
program
and
they
have
determined
that
we're
in
compliance
again
with
the
program.
They
do
studies,
shortcomings
of
the
grantee
one
being
that
our
cities,
but
it
is
behind
schedule,
but
the
IRA
work
is,
is
correct.
A
Well,
during
the
pandemic,
the
city
did
not
retain
the
entire
finance
department
cell,
so
that
created
a
delay
in
doing
Financial
work.
So
there
was
that
was
that's
contributing
factor
to
falling
in
Iron
Man.
So
the
assistant
this
is
the
controller,
was
laid
off
for
a
while
I,
don't
know
when
you
call
it
late
on
what
do
we
call
like
earlier
yeah,
several
staff
members
were
also
furloughed
at
that
time.
Most
folks
are
back
yeah.
A
You
know
it's
resumed,
but
once
you
fall
behind
in
a
financial
sequence,
you
need
a
little
bit
of
a
surge
work
effort
which
I
think
we've
recommended
several
times
over
the
last
over
several
years
to
get
them
caught
up.
So
the
city
internally
finished
the
2020,
but
is
waiting
for
a
final
piece
of
information
where
the
Auditors
don't
read
2020.,
so
they
should
be
looking
at
20.
21
2021
should
have
been
completed
by
now
as
well.
C
What's
this
business
about
inspecting
home
assistant,
yes,
who's
supposed
to
be
inspecting
them.
C
A
Maybe
we
can
contract
under
certain
circumstances,
but
Anita
and
Charles
was
doing
it
for
a
while
and
Lisa
has
picked
it
up
and
Trump
we're
trying
to
figure
out
a
low
friction
way
of
doing
it,
because
residents
know
who
really
welcome
people
coming
into
their
units
and,
let's
say
points,
but
these
units
are
if
they're
Section
8
units,
which
many
of
them
are
they're
inspected
on
an
annual
basis
by
the
provider
of
the
Section
8
certificate.
A
So
we're
obligated
every
three
years
to
do
an
inspection
of
a
home,
assisted
rental
project,
what
sort
of
inspection,
basically
a
housing
quality
standards,
what
housing
quality
standards,
the
same,
one
that
husband,
Choice
vulture,
uses.
A
B
C
They
passed
a
a
Section,
8
inspection.
We.
A
Can't
rely
on
another
entity's
inspection
is
the
way
the
regulations
are
written
and
I.
Don't
know
why
it
says
that,
but
that
you
know
you
think
if
they
met
a
Section
8
standard.
It
would
be
you
know
it
should
be.
They
have
to
be
they're
under
HUD
regulations
too
right
so,
but
they
don't
accept
it
home
says
you
have
to
have
your
own
inspection
process.
I.
C
D
I
would
have
said,
there's
a
no
screen
on
one
window.
There
was
no,
you
know
fire
detection,
so
yeah.
They
must
have
a
list
of
things.
A
You
know
it's
like
four
pages
in
line
with
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
check
this,
and
that
and
the
other
thing,
and
so
that's
the
checklist
that
has
been
used
by
the
bigger
housing
authority
to
Hopkins
community
action
and
organized
providers
of
the
housing,
Choice
vouchers
and
they're
familiar
with,
which
is
a
good
thing,
because
people
know
what
to
expect,
and
they
have
experience
using
that
so
I
think
it's
workable
and
I
just
wish
that
they
didn't
require.
You
know
if
there's
a
Section,
8
inspection.
A
It
seems
like
that,
should
surprise,
but
under
home
rights
that
doesn't
match
that
doesn't
mean
it.
So
the
goal
was
to
arrange
times
when
you
you
won't,
have
to
do
every
unit
in
a
building.
If
you
have
a
building
of
15
units,
you
only
have
to
do
a
percentage
and
the
goal
was
to
try
to
figure
out.
When
is
somebody
moving
under?
Let's
go
inspect
them
rather
than
you
know,
have
to
come
in
the
middle
of
somebody's
day
when
they're
there
or
going
to
an
apartment.
A
When
they're
not
there,
which
is,
you
know,
not
a
great
practice
either,
so
we
were
waiting
for
switchovers
and
during
the
pandemic.
Nobody
all
the
rules
are
changed
to
you
know
perceived
the
reason
not
to
let
everybody
come
into
your
unit,
your
housing
units,
so
those
were
relaxed
that
time
period.
We
were
a
little
bit
behind
at
that
point.
So
now
we're
now
we're
two
years
behind
it.
Well,.
A
No,
we
yes
you're
right
here.
C
C
B
A
D
So
is
there
any
penalty
serving
other
compliance
or
I
mean
not,
you
know
for
being
late.
A
D
A
Think
I
think
it
it
becomes
kind
of
like
we're
putting
you
know,
I
noticed
and
it
becomes
and
eventually
it
becomes
a
formal
finding
and
then
then
they
have
a
required
workout
plan.
And
then,
if
you
don't,
you
know,
make
progress,
they
can
look
to
about
that
percentage
of
all
of
your
future
allegations
for
one
year
or
whatever.
We.
C
C
A
C
I'm
just
being
concerned
with.
B
A
So
I
think
in
that
case
it's
eight
minutes
of
which
I
think
two
have
to
be
inspected
on
a
three-year
basis.
I
mean
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
review.
You
know,
inspect
everyone
when
they're
all
similar
units
right
in
the
same
building
built
at
the
same
time
period
so
take
growing
list.
I
think
we
have
inspections
due
on
12
to
50.
A
Has
been
very
good
about
getting
significant
compliances
compared
to
every
other
room,
most
every
other
landlord
in
the
city,
so
that
they
probably
will
be
able
to
show
that
they
have
those
in
place
wherever
now
that
that
option
is
stratified
by
the
IRA,
we
can
now
pursue
that
so
yeah.
So
it's
hopefully
that
will
save
us,
because
most
of
our
units
really
are
managed
by
a
professional
not
for
profit
organization.
B
A
A
The
opportunity
but
the
home
regulations
were
developed
and
we
started
in
1990
and
they
had
one
amendment
in
2013
which
took
three
years
to
go
through
I.
Don't
think
they're
going
to
change
a
little
bit
they're
going
to
wait
till
they
accumulate
the
number
of
items
before
they
would
do
something.
But.
A
A
The
housing
units
are
there,
they're
occupied
home
had
a
problem
and
around
2013
when
the
Baltimore
Sun
did
an
expose
of
Baltimore
and
Washington
DC
and
found
a
lot
of
housing
units
were
built
with
no
assistance
funds,
but
they
weren't
occupied
the
market
was
you
know
they
were
building
a
place
where
there
wasn't
demand
for
housing
or
or
they
weren't
Built
Well,
and
so
they
instilled
a
lot
of
extra
requirements
to
ensure
that
they
wouldn't
have
vacancies,
because
the
federal
government
followed
up
with
deep
customer
program
for
that
and
they've
now
been
building
it
back
up,
so
they
were
really
trying
to
build
in
standards.
A
A
That
is
it's
a
major
or
major
issue.
So
we'll
look
at
that
at
the
Grand
summary
and
materials
here,
but
essentially
the
framework
is
they
want
again
for
reasons
of
ensuring
continued
funding
support
and
in
Congress
and
Senate
they
don't?
They
want
to
show
that
the
money
is
being
deployed
into
the
community
and
not
sitting
in
a
bank
account
or
online
credit
waiting
to
use.
A
So
they
have
the
standard.
Only
person
you've
been
cheap,
one.
So
home
funds
you
have
eight
years
to
spend
sometimes
at
six,
but
usually
it's
eight
years
cdvg.
They
have
a
rolling
standard.
That
says
you
can't
have
more
unspent
funds
available
to
you
than
me.
1.5
times
your
most
recent
award,
so
we're
about
600
700
000
per
year
in
award,
which
means
we
can't
have
more
than
a
million
dollars
waiting
to
be
spent
or,
and
so
that's
the
standard
and
again
during
the
pandemic.
They
have
kind
of
waived
that
rule.
A
C
We're
struggling
Community,
okay,
so
at
the
end
of
this,
despite
all
this,
that
has
been
used
with
the
best
practice
for
other
programs
throughout
the
country
this
year.
So
if
we're
the
best
a
best
practice
of
the
program,
I'd
love
to
see,
actually
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
the
list
of
compliance
issues
that
go
with
other.
A
B
D
A
Would
you
like
so
the
agency
didn't
take
a
close
look
at
this
yesterday
at
their
meeting
they
they
recently
asked
that
the
the
community
take
a
look
and
see
if
they
have
any
questions
about
it
again.
It's
it's
a
snapshot
of
our
of
our
work
and
in
our
investments
and
activities
over
the
past
year
and
then
also
there's
a
comparison
table
that
looks
at
over
the
five-year
period,
of
course,
we're
in
year
three
of
that
five-year
period.
A
So
it's
trying
to
look
at
how
are
we
doing
against
our
goals
and
our
objectives
when
we
created
it
in
2019
we're
here
three
of
the
five
year,
and
you
know
how
a
program
has
gone
more
recently
in
this
last
year-
kind
of
right,
walking
people
through
those
issues
and
answering
exactly
the
questions
that
they
asked
us
to
enter
and
respond
to.
So
why
not
has
accepted
this,
as,
as
you
know,
as
leading
the
cheaper
requirements
and
they
have
kind
of,
in
some
degree,
Incorporated
they're
reviewing
their
data
a
segment.
A
We
just
looked
at
that
that's
in
the
capacity
endpoint.
They
don't
provide
us
with
the
community
assessment
until
they
receive
the
paper
and
digested
and
I
already
asked
questions
about
it.
I
think
they
did
have
a
few
questions
on
the
keeper
that
Annie
said
Charles
answered,
we
wrote
this
paper.
Charles
is
the
lead
writer
working
with
minisa.
A
The
one
thing
I
I,
look
at
that
table
of
comparisons
about
our
goals
to
our
achievements
and
try
to
look
and
see
like
are
we
close
and
if
not,
why
and
one
thing
I
noticed:
HUD
doesn't
differentiate
between
a
deep
subsidy
beneficiary
and
a
shallow,
exceptionally
beneficiary.
So
if
you
receive
a
security
deposited
assistance
thousand
dollars,
maybe
you're
counted
as
a
housing
recipient.
A
If
you
receive
a
new
homeowners,
mobile
ownership
opportunity,
you're
kind
of
another
just
another
beneficiary,
so
it's
hard
to
sometimes
measure
the
beneficiary
count
and
compare
them
because
it's
like
comparing
a
Black
River.
You
know
wide
and
shallow
versus
a
deep.
You
know
deep
lake
or
something
in
terms
of
support,
they're,
all
kind
of
the
same,
but
opposing
projects
that
are
development.
A
You
know,
rental
construction
are
new
new
construction
having
two
to
two
and
a
half
year
timeline
between
when
you
commit
funding
to
them,
and
we
can't
count
them
as
an
achievement
until
we
have
the
resident
qualified
in
it.
So
there's
a
long
leg
time
for
those
projects,
especially
when
you're
only
measuring
in
a
five-year
period.
A
So
we're
lagging
a
little
bit
on
that
housing,
production,
side
and
part
of
that
is
part
of.
It
is
because
we
choose
not
to
try
to
claim
all
75
units
of
places
like
Founders
way,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
to
do
the
inspection
requirement.
If
we
claim
eight
units,
when
when
we
were
developing
the
Consolidated
plan
of
five-year
strategic
plan,
we
were
probably
thinking
oh
Founders
wave
in
a
hopper.
We
should
get
that
done
in
five
years.
Let
the
count
7500
and
so
you'll
see
some
of
those
there's,
usually
a
good
reason.
A
B
C
Don't
know
a
question
about
a
specific
program
that
was
being
described
in
here,
brought
to
mind
initial,
it's
the
historic
ethic
or
his
work
preserved,
and
this
is
an
issue
of
Hud
rags
and
what
sort
of
control
does
the
local
entity
have?
There
was
an
unfortunate
situation
which
came
to
life
that
one
of
the
people
enrolled
in
the
program
was
a
registered
sexual
offender.
C
I
forget
what
level
I've
got
my
notes
at
home,
and
it
was
of
concern
to
me
because
it's
a
difficult
population,
the
student,
the
students
from
backgrounds
of
some
real
deprivation
of
people
who,
in
some
cases
have
practically
no
basic
skills
getting
out
of
bed,
would
be
a
at
least
every
day
would
be
a
major
accomplishment.
Sure
I
feel
it
is
for
me,
but
anyhow
so
you're
dealing
with
the
population
that
you
know
at
certain
points.
C
C
So
when
you
got
a
sexual
offender
was
conducted
in
when
I
asked
about
this,
because
our
neighborhood
has
many
young
kids
walking
around
now
and
all
that
social
stuff
and
this
location
of
that
corner
is
a
great
area
to
one
to
survey.
The
neighborhood,
so
I
mean
I
was
stunned
for
some
of
Tracy
Carroll
I
always
looked
at
the
list
of
registered
sex
offenders
living
here.
For
some
reason,
I
happen
to
be
doing
that
I
went
212.
C
Center
Street,
it's
a
little
bit
his
name
in
our
house,
but
it
was
listed
as
the
place
that
he
was
enrolled.
So
when
I
asked
the
director
Susan
how
long
about
it
said?
Well,
yes,
I
know,
he's
a
very
nice
young
man,
sure
it's
a
very
nice
young
man
and
besides,
we
can't
refuse
to
take
any
any
of
the
people
in
our
program.
They've
already
been
vetted
by
the
people
who
referred
them
to
us,
and
so
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
say
no,
this
person,
isn't
it.
C
Oh,
isn't:
okay
for
women
that
doesn't
seem
right
to
me.
Is
that
really
so
I
mean
a
heavy
Orton
God's
High
experience
with
accepting
people
into
programs
in
the
Human
Services,
and
if
your
funding
is
hard,
do
they
say
nope
they're,
whatever
the
parent
organization
they
came
from
whatever
and
still
is
recommending
them
has
recommended
them.
So
you
have
to
take
them
that
doesn't
sound.
C
C
A
Historically,
as
a
model
like,
unlike
pgiac,
where
they
work
with
people,
they
don't
get
a
subsidy
to
go
with
working
with
them
release.
They
have
to
fund
that
themselves
and
certificates
used
a
model
where
they're
accepting
referrals
from
other
agencies
which
helps
to
fray
the
cost
of
the
program.
So
it
pays
for
some
of
their
Staffing.
Essentially
if
they
receive
you
know
that
referral
they
get
funding.
So
that's
been
their
model.
So
once
you
accept
that
as.
D
C
B
C
B
Okay,
thank
you
well.
I
would
hope
that
any
agency
would
celebrate
an
opportunity
for
forgiveness
and
for
healing
and
most
I
think
in
a
work
program
like
that
most
people
are
supervised
and
I
can't
imagine
that
people
who
are
formerly
incarcerated
or
who
were
offenders
would
be
left
alone
as
teenagers
to
repair
cane
bottom
chairs.
B
A
The
opportunity
for
you
to
raise
questions
or
issues
that
you'd
like
the
IRA
to
be
aware
of,
or
to
do
more
research
on
or
respond
to
you
with
this.
For
my
perspective,
it's
a
fair
analysis
of
Pulaski
and
activities
and
putting
them
in
perspective.
Web
advice.
D
A
Would
probably
be
a
good
motion
components,
but
there's
a
pretty
long
section
of
early
on
in
the
table
that
goes
from
edge
to
edge
of
the
page.
You
know
for
movie
for
housing
rules
I
think
there
was
a
displacement
economic
displacement
just
touching
on
pdfb
62.
D
One
of
the
your
activities
was
to
work
against
ancient
displacement.
I
thought.
Well,
that's
a
tough
one
dude,
you
know,
I
was
kind
of
curious
and
I.
Don't
know.
If
we
have
time.
I
was
like
what
are
your
strategies
to.
A
There
are
several
different
strategies
to
try.
It's
a
scenario
where
the
fair
housing
rules
of
can
challenge
one
two
progress
on
it,
because
oftentimes
what
trees
wanted
to
do
is
provide
benefits
to
those
who
are
being
displaced,
but
the
way
we
create
programs
for
home
ownership
or
regular,
Assistance
or
subsidies
have
to
be
open
to
everybody
who
fits
the
minimum
the
qualifications.
A
So
it's
very
hard
to
Target
things
for
particular
groups
or
subgroups
in
the
community
and
being
compliance,
because
somebody
will
say
well
wait,
that's
you
discriminated
against
other
people
who
are
in
projected
classes
by
not
allowing
them
to
perceive
their
benefit.
The
easiest
with
resolution
for
addressing
the
dynamic
dislocation
is
to
build
more
affordable
housing
in
those
neighborhoods,
because
that
expands
the
supply
gives
people
an
opportunity
to
stay
in
their
neighborhood
or
move
back
to
the
neighborhood.
They
were
displaced
from
economically
it's
not
as
if
they
were
physically
forethought
by
government
action.
A
A
D
All
right,
then
did
you
want.
It
was
the
draft
summary
further
together.
Yeah
is
that
just
for
London.
A
Or
I
wonder
if
you're
aware
of
the
strategy
that
has
been
being
under
developed,
redevelop
and
reduced
care
to
address
my
children's
homelessness
or
persons
with
severe
service
needs,
we're
homeless,
which
is
very
strong
overlap,
and
this
is
a
little
bit
David,
because
this
is
the
framework
and
the
presentation
ready
for
the
November
meeting
and
the
technique
of
care
has
continued
its
work.
Do
we
need
to
create
their
plan?
But
this
is
a
really
easy
way
to
digest.
A
A
So
the
big
picture
about
this
recommendation
is,
you
know
we
have
this
bottleneck
in
our
system,
where
we
don't
have
enough
permanent
supported
policy,
life
and
Magnolia
house
or
like
sharewell
House,
on
West,
on
Miller
Street,
where
people
receive
both
very
affordable
housing
and
wrap
renowned,
Support,
Services,
and
so
people
get
into
the
homeless
system
and
it's
hard
to
find
a
place
where
they
can
mix
it,
and
you
know,
have
today
more
housing.
They
might
find
rental
housing
there
without
Support
Services.
A
Some
people
are
not
going
to
try
and
some
will,
but
then
the
ones
that
don't
you
know,
go
back
and
and
sometimes
they
get
evicted,
which
then
becomes
a
big
black
mark
against
you
or
for
your
future
application
for
Healthy
Choice
Brokers.
So
their
goal
is
to
say
we
need
100
more
units
in
the
community
and
that's
that
count
me
and
it's
not
just
a
fitting
and
they
think
that
there
should
be
a
little
more
work
to
expand
the
access
to
the
emergency
shelter.
A
You
know
you
have
to
sign
if
you
have
it
that
kind
of
approach
to
try
to
induce
people
to
give
the
system
when
they
try
and
to
give
them
it's
a
very
much
professional
approach
that
we're
going
to
provide
people
with
housing
and,
secondly,
we'll
work
through
their
issues
and
not
everybody
agrees
with
that
strategy.
Some
people
think
they.
B
B
A
Yeah,
so
I
want
to
make
you
aware
of
this,
because
now
we're
doing
this,
Continuous
Care
is
going
to
be
seeking
endorsements
or
buy-in
from
various
organizations
that
are
involved
with
affordable
housing
and
homelessness
issues.
So
the
city,
the
county,
the
IRA
natural
profit
agencies
will
probably
we'll
see
where
they
go,
but
they've
done
is
they
don't
try
to
get
some
endorsement
or
something
that
equivalent
worsenality?
They
have
a
much
more
in-depth
report
that
goes
along
with
this
presentation.
We're
going
to
update
the
presentation.
D
D
D
B
B
C
But
you
know
what
I
don't
see
this
did
in
this
report.
In
terms
of
me,
do
you
talk
about
Clean,
Water,
Sanitation,
trash
pickups
and
one
of
the
things
would
be
really
helpful,
would
be
phone
charging
or
access
to
her
phone
charging,
because
that
is
the
cause
of
so
much
damage
on
Cherry
Street
break-ins
damage
to
any
exterior
electrical
equipment
is
continually
being
accessed
for
phone
charge.
Oh
yeah,
for
phone,
it's
not
proposed
for
charging
for
charging
the
devices,
and
so
on
the
outs.
C
So
you
know
you
have,
for
instance,
Precision
filters
had
to
move
all
their
lighting
up
high
so
that
people
couldn't
reach
it
from
the
ground.
The
we
couldn't
figure
out
on
that
247
Cherry
Street
wide
this
fiction.
That's
the
door
kept
being
loosened
by
generous
because
you're
taking
it
apart
and
charging
your
phones
do
it,
and
so
then
it
also
creates
an
incentive
to
try
to
find
less
obvious
locations
on
a
building
like
dark
and
secluded
and
covered
places
to
charge
phones
or,
of
course
you
know-
sometimes
they're
actually
doing
this
during
the
daytime.
But.
B
C
C
A
Still
in
discussion,
okay,
but
not
necessarily
I-
mean
there's
no
budget
authority
to
support
a
project
that
scale
of
times
that
was
originally.
It
was
a
million
dollars
plus
to
construct
in
seven
or
eight
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
manage
so
that
there's
no.
B
B
D
You
did
you
see
that
so
I'm
going
to
be
a
time
to
get
to
Susan
the
questions.
So
now
we
have
the
so
that's
it
the
financials,
which
I
think
it
was
very
interesting.
Yeah.
A
So
we
have
a
grand
summary:
a
loan
review.
Sorry
working
backwards.
The
least
the
least
agreement
report
is
solid.
The
one
delinquency
is
a
five-day
delinquency:
they've
paid
one
week
late
every
time.
So
that's
current
as
we
speak.
You
know
it
has
a
little
more
red
on
it,
both
sometimes
Community
Action
and
our
newest
borrower
business
or
our
personal
best
Brewing
on
West
State
Street,
which
was
the
city
hope
Club
location.
Is
that
open
so
yeah
there?
A
They
are
no
current
that
without
they
kind
of
they
didn't
they
said
they
didn't
receive
their
first
bill
and
they're
current
up.
So
that's
the
issue
and
the
times
Community
Action.
This
is
tracing
back
to
a
dispute
between
our
loan,
servicer
and
and
PC
actions.
A
Records,
PC
action
indicates
they've
made
payments
the
bank
in
terms
of
the
to
prevents
that
they
haven't
received
it
GC
actually
has
a
number
of
loans
with
m
t
and
we
suspect
that
it
got
paid
but
put
into
the
wrong
account
so
we're
comparing
the
documents
to
each
other.
It's
not
an
ongoing
escalating
problem.
It's
a
one
a
one
month,
payment
in
2022.
A
We
track
at
the
bottom
of
the
sheet,
where
we
stand
the
relative
to
our
spend
on,
which
is
a
one
time.
A
year
snapshot
on
June
1st,
we're
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
away
from
meeting
that
right
now,.
A
We
have
to
spend
350
000
into
June
1st
to
get
a
little
bit
of
income
every
and
every
time
we
get
a
loan
repayment.
We
have
more
income
coming
in,
so
we
have
to
deal
on
Saturday
as
well,
but
we
do
have
a
number
of
loans
that
we're
issuing
right
now.
You
know
still
a
personal
best
growing
and
there's
one
other
I'm
trying
to
think
we
have
another
projects
that
are
drawing
down
like
the.
A
A
year
ago,
when
we
had
the
issue
of
the
referendum,
not
passing,
they
have
worked
out
it
a
workable
problem
to
do
the
giac
rehab,
with
eagerness
training
for
easements,
but
enough
assets.
They
had
to
figure
a
different
way
to
enter
into
the
building,
which
now
triggered
an
extra
environmental
review,
because
it's
now
20
larger
than
it
was
before
and
it
doesn't
fit
into
the
fast
track
investment
review.
A
So
you
know
I,
guess
those
I
think
that
money
is
going
to
be
out
the
door
they
have
to
incurred
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
expenses
already
so
I
think
that
when
you'll
be
out
the
door,
so
that's
a
big
chunk
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
there.
So
we
have
a
plan
by
working
with
our
grantees
and
asking
them
all
to
build
by.
A
You
know
for
the
first
quarter
in
early
April
I
think
we're
going
to
be
very
close,
but
we
may
not
quite
need
to
spend
our
no
and
that's
partially,
because
we
have
programs
that
have
received
funding
on
an
annual
basis
and
they
hit
the
pandemic
and
they
kind
of
slowed
down
with
their
Staffing.
A
good
example
is
the
hospitality,
employment
training
program
and
I
invest.
You
know
they
have
20
20.
A
They
have
22
they're,
just
spending
down
their
2020
funds,
they
have
21
funds,
22
funds,
and
so
we're
really
looking
very
closely
at
those
and
saying
we're
not
going
to
award
more
funds
to
anybody.
Who's
already
got
a
big
slew
of
funding.
You
know
in
the
bank
ready
for
them,
we've
kind
of
just
annually
funded
some
of
these
programs
and
the
trick
with
that
program
is
the
city
pays
their
staff,
and
then
we
reimburse
the
city.
So
there's
not
an
urgency
by
the
program
to
build
us
on
a
timely
basis.
A
So
we've
really
pushed
hard
in
our
pushing
hard
to
say:
you've
got
a
bill
on
a
regular
basis.
So
we
know
where
you
stand.
The
trick
is
if
we
don't
include
a
project
in
this
year
in
2023
action
plan
which
is
starting
to
be
developed
starting
by
next
month.
If
you're
excluded
from
that-
and
you
wait
for
the
next
year,
the
first
time
you
would
have
new
money
coming
in
would
be
October
2024,
and
so
it's
really
a
burn
rate
analysis
like
how
fast
are
you
spending
on
the
money?
You
really.
B
A
Money
before
October
24th
show
is
by
October
2024,
because
you've
done
100
000
in
the
bank
here
waiting
for
you.
So
that's
our
core.
Our
core
problem
are
those
projects
like
that
which
it
has
to
have
an
employment
training
program
and
Finger
Lakes
reviews
were
the
two
major
projects
that
will
put
that
thing.
Finger
Lakes
reviews
did
convert
their
money
from
operating.
Support
to
a
one-time,
Grant
essentially
are
not
available.
A
A
Would
say
we
we
probably
over
funding
some
of
these
agencies,
they
weren't
a
little
bit
before
the
pandemic,
but
the
pandemic
accelerated
that
they're
not
spending
down
in
a
12-month
cycle.
You
know
yes,
because
in
the
pandemic
some
people
were
furloughed
and
then
they
they
had
a
funding
for
I.
Don't
know
why
they
sure
looks
only
had
to
go
anymore,
but
they
would
preferlo
somebody,
and
then
we
didn't
spend
that
forty
thousand
dollars
or
whatever
it
was
in
that
case
yeah
could
be
confused
yeah.
A
So
that's
the
big
issue
we're
facing
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
get
these
big
ticket
ones
spent
I
mean
it's
been
very
good
at
spending
down.
You
know,
they're
a
model
organizations.
A
The
strange
thing
is
we
do
quite
a
bit
better
in
our
spin
down
of
Home
funds
than
cdb
def
funds,
because
home
funds
tend
to
be
security,
deposits,
new
rental,
housing
United.
Just
you
know
projects,
but
we
get
no
credit
for
that.
With
this
specific,
only
a
cdbg
spend
down
with
you
for
those
Public
Services.
We
have
many
more
agencies
to
involved
one
internet
category.
So
that's
a
challenge,
but
I
think
we
have
a
good
chance
of
making
it
any
questions.
There's
a
list
on
that
list.
A
We
have
some
nodes,
on
the
left
hand,
column
a
project
that
are
not
preceding
at
a
at
a
pace
to
meet
to
comply
with
our
what
there
could
be
some
other
contractual
obligations
which
will
likely
result
in
US
pulling
back
those
funds
and
reallocating
them
in
the
2023
cycle.
Learning
what
very
much
home
funds,
though?
That's
true.
C
For
eligibility
to
purchase
the
land,
trust
houses
actually
excludes
a
whole
group
of
people
that
we,
the
agency
City,
thought
we
were
building
these
houses,
for,
in
other
words,
our
essential
workers,
our
teachers,
Etc,
the
the
urban
renewal
agency
uses
as
I
understand
from
Charles
and
Nell's
uses
adjusted
gross
as
the
income
NHS
does
not
they
use
gross.
B
C
C
Therefore,
we
were
six
hundred
dollars
over
the
government
and
the
person
who
processed
who
doesn't
come
eligibility
over
there.
Patrick
Mitchell
do
not
talk
quite
a
bit.
He
said
they
don't
that
they
cannot
change
their
method,
because
that's
the
calculation
method
that
NHS
has
been
using
for
years
so
I
don't
know
what
sort
of
problems
that
are
with
this,
but
in
this
case,
for
instance,
my
tenant
is
just
how
it
came
to
mind.
I
was
saying:
you've
got
to
go.
Look
at
that
house
around
the
street
at
HS
house.
C
C
B
C
Which
is
way
under
hog
fair
market
rents,
but
I
just
want
these
guys.
They
love
when
she's
a
great
person,
so
I've
been
ready,
and
suddenly
this
is
she's
not
eligible.
This
is
a
person
who
teaches
English
Second
Language
to
that
Bell
Sherman
to
kindergartners
and
at
the
middle
school
Mother
of
God.
These
are
the
people
we
want
to
be
helping
perform
by
Hauser.
C
Yet
the
reaction
student
crime
that
also
truly
the
buildings
those
days
expression
from
Burke
we
understood
a
new
car,
Cornell,
doctoral
candidate
and
entomology-
is
eligible
because
her
as
I,
you
would
certainly
knows
her.
Forty
thousand
dollars
of
forgiven
tuition
does
not
count
as
an
as
an
income
or
an
asset
because
the
FED
reg
is
it
never
was
in
your
hands.
Therefore,
you
don't
have
that
asset,
so
that
person
who
has
forty
thousand
dollars
tuition
were
given
and
a
stipend
which
I
thought
was
running
at
34.
C
The
last
I
knew
and
Patrick
tells
me
it's
closer
to
pushing
40
000..
That
person
is
eligible
now
Patrick
see
a
problem
with
that
he
just
said
well,
no,
this
is
it's
it's
fine,
because
you
know
that
when
they
finish
their
degree
and
they
leave
town,
they'll
sell
it
and
it's
good
because
they
don't
take
a
windfall
profit
and
it
says
affordable,
I
say
no,
but
what
about
the
teacher
in
the
meantime?
Who
does
it?
Who
can't
get
it?
C
The
city,
the
city,
the
hall
employee,
that
any
of
our
essential
workers,
the
nurses,
this
I
haven't,
talked
any
further
with
other
people
at
NHS,
Nelson
I
talked
about
this
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
do
anything
further,
but
I
think
the
agency
needs
to
know
about.
It.
I
need
to
be
clear
that
this
wonderful
Land
Trust
homes
that
we've
all
worked
so
hard
over
the
years
to
put
together
it's
not
reaching
the
people.
C
We
thought
that
it
would
be
reaching
and
it's
again
about
the
Curiosity
of
one
individual
somewhere
along
the
line.
You
know
Patrick
I
said:
would
you
point
out
problems
with
this
system?
Do
you
have
staff
meetings?
Do
you
have
value
feedbacks?
Well,
you
know
we
just
we
didn't
see
it
as
a
really
big
problem
at
all.
I
see
it
as.
B
C
Problem
of
gross
inequity.
Now,
as
I
said,
it
seems,
if
you
he
says
well
how
you
know
we're
concerned
about
having
regulations
so
you've
got
several
choices,
figure
out.
What's
the
way
to
use
them
adjusted
gross
method
for
two
years,
if
you
can't
use
it
as
the
whole
NHS
entity,
so
spin
off
in
a
separate
subsidiary,
that
is
your
land,
your
land,
trust,
housing,
operation
and
Institute,
the
new
procedure
or
use.
You
know
the
more
difficult
thing
is
outside
funding
that
doesn't
have
HUD
strengths.
Where
do
you
get
it?
C
I,
of
course,
will
always
talk
about
that.
You
know
the
authorized
but
unbounded
million
that
still
have
the
city's
books,
but
it
seems
there
must
be
other
ways
of
doing
this
and
there
needs
to
be
some
awareness
of
it.
Patrick
did
say
that
Joanna
Anderson,
Anderson
right
well,
I'm,
not
mad
and
dealer.
B
C
A
Behind
the
scenes
we
don't,
we
don't
see
the
pool
of
applicants
who
aren't
the
Giant
news,
so
it's
only
when
an
instance
like
this
comes
up
there.
You
can
even
you
know,
learn
about
that
issue.
There
are
basically
true
ways
that
God
accepts
to
document
income,
kind
of
the
adjusted
gross
federal
tax,
return
approach
and
the
housing
Choice
voter
approach
and
high
requirements.
If
you
have
a
program
like
a
home
ownership
program,
you
have
to
treat
you
have
to
pick
one
of
those
methods
and
stick
with
it
for
that
program.
A
If
you
run
a
tend
to
page
rental
assistance
program,
you
have
to
pick
one
of
them
and
stay
with
it.
You
know
that's
the
kind
of
the
framework
they
think
bad
news
is
referring
to
I.
It
sounds
like
IHS
is
going
a
step
further
and
saying
all
of
our
income.
Qualifications
for
everything
are
done
in
one
one
of
the
two.
C
Of
them,
yeah
I'm,
not
sure
all
the
energy
it
just
you
know
Patrick
said
well.
It
was
before
my
time
I've
been
here
whatever
like
six
or
eight
years,
and
and
this
future
computation
method
was
settled
then,
but
if
no
one
knows
there's
a
problem,
no
one
does
it's
never
going
to
get
fixed
and
what
I
want
to
do
is
make
sure.
C
First
of
all
that
am
I
correct.
Is
there
a
problem?
It
certainly
seems
to
me
there
is,
and
an
agency
member
should
be
aware
of
this
and
I.
Don't
know
to
what
extent
NHS
is
I,
don't
know.
Do
you
ever
talk
with
Lynn
sure.
A
Right,
yes,
yeah
and
Leslie
Ackerman
does
a
lot
of
them
for
sale,
Home,
Ownership
projects.
C
A
So
she's
involved
with
good
old
in
those
units
I
mean
she's,
one
half
of
a
smart,
creative
person,
yeah
so
I
mean
the
goal
of
the
buildings
are
happening.
Yeah
they're,
the
framework
is
that
to
be
eligible
to
acquire
a
home,
you
have
to
meet
the
80
of
every
unit
income
standard
which
is
based
on
Hotel
size.
A
So
a
one-person
household
is
somewhere
around
58,
000
or
60
000
right
now
to
need
that
qualification
as
you
grow
your
household
size
and
bad
memory
reasons
why
I
had
about
eight
or
ten
thousand
dollars
per
person
so
the
hardest.
One
to
me,
probably,
is
the
single
person
working
you
know
and
yeah,
because
they're
in
the
lowest
number
to
be
qualified,
but
I
think
we
have
to
you
know
we
can
actually
have
a
conversation
with
you
know:
Leslie,
Ackerman
and
and
Johanna,
be
there
to
say.
Are
there
some
workable
methods
to
look
at
this
I?
A
Think
you,
you
build
up
expertise
and
the
income
qualification
process
by
doing
one
or
the
other,
and
they
may
want
to
say
hey.
We
know
how
to
do
it.
This
way
and
we've
gone
through
a
lot
of
audits,
a
lot
you
know
this
way.
We
know
that
they're-
probably
sticking
with
the
way
they
know.
Then
there
may
be
good
reasons
why
they
don't
jump
to
the
alternative
approach,
but
I
don't
know
what
they
are.
You
know
and
they
so
yeah.
A
It
seems
like
it's
an
unintended
consequence,
especially
when
they
went
to
the
school
and
the
school
agreed
to
support
the
partial
tax
exemption
so
that
these
units
get
taxed
at
their
resale
value,
not
their
Market
potential
market
value.
So
the
homeowners
are
limited
for
what
they
can
sell
it
at,
which
tends
to
be
quite
a
bit
lower
than
their
neighbors,
and
that
is
something
that
required
the
school
district
to
agree
to
support
that
in
return.
Infs
is
my
understanding
committed
to
market
the
program
to
School
Employees
the
employees.
A
The
school
have
received.
Some
increases
in
missionary,
they
were
wondering
I
would
be
able
to
starting
wages
were
below
market
rate
compared
to
other
comparative
equals.
I'm
not
sure,
if
that's
true
anymore,
because
I've
had
a
some
increases
in
their
starting
salaries,
and
that
may
be,
you
know
again.
Unintended
consequences
is
you're
pushed
above
80
percent
of
your
life
by
measured
by
this
tool
when
they
receive
some
wage
increases,
but
we
can
follow
up
and
see
if
there's
some
opportunities
and
make
them
aware
Beyond
just
Patrick.
You
know
that
there
are
people.
C
Obviously,
yeah
then
following
up
on
the
snowboards
keeping
it
on
the
agenda,
not
just
on
this
committee,
which
moves
in
frequently
but
moving
it
on
to
the
urban
renewal
agencies
agenda
after
you've
had
a
chance
to
little
program
to
find
out
what
is
is
going
on.
This
is
my
anecdotal
observation
from
one
case,
but
it
is
a
difference
in
eligibility
due
to
income.
Determination
methodology
seems
to
be
the
problem.
So
if
they're.
A
Look
at
who
didn't
it's,
not
it's
not
as
if
these
units
are
going
to
vacant
or
being
necessarily
sold
to
graduate
students,
but
I.
Don't
know
that
I
don't
know
who
so
they've
just
done.
Six
units
they've
got
the
ones
in
South
plain
and
the
four
over
by
Founders
way
that
they're
just
I've
just
gone
under
contract.
So
when
you
take
a
look
at
maybe
some
of
those
characteristics
and
say
well,
what
kind
of
characteristics
or
people
are
eligible
for
homeowners
and
beauty
of
these,
and
were
you
know,
was
it?
D
It
yeah,
sometimes
you
know,
here's
your
level
of
cut-off
level,
but
the
people
who
actually
thinking
who
are
quite
fit
below
I
mean
that's
real.
So
but
it's
a
good
point,
yeah,
you
don't
look
at
who's,
not
getting
your
services
yeah,
as
your
husband
always.
C
Let's
not
drop
it
the
agenda
and,
let's,
let's
make
sure
that
a
relatively
new
program,
a
wonderful
program
does
get
evaluated
that
it's
flaws
and
problems
are
addressed,
and
in
particular
this
doesn't
mean
the
guidelines
corporate
program
for.
A
Now
the
state
has
rolled
out
some
new
homeownership
programs
through
the
Hope
Administration,
and
they
provide
up
to
150
000
of
assistance
per
unit,
which
is
the
deepest
subsidy
you've
ever
heard
before
for
home
ownership.
A
I
believe
some
of
it
that
funding
does
go
above
80
Ami,
so
there
might
be
that
might
be
a
product
that
could
work
in
conjunction
with
this
program
and
still
use
the
same
method
for
analyzing
and
say
hey.
If
you're,
between
80
and
100
of
your
immediate
income,
you
might
be
eligible
for
a
program
for
funding
under
that
pool
and
they
could
maybe
be
creative
about
which
pool
they
already
are
creative,
which
pool
of
funds
they
use
for
making
up
the
substitute
difference,
because
new
healthy
constructing
is
running
350
to
400
000
per
unit.
C
Somehow,
not
just
about
getting
more
money
into
the
money
into
the
program
pouring
that
money
into
the
hands
of
the
buyers
for
determining
the
eligibility
I.
How
do
other
like?
How
does
social
services,
when
they're
doing
income,
verification
and
stuff?
What
are
they?
What
do
they
use?
Do
they
use
gross
or
or
not
perfect,.
A
There's
a
Section
8
standard,
which
is
widely
used.
Charles
is
an
expert
editor
because
he
reviews
a
regular
basis
and
then
there's
the
simpler.
Let's
just
take
a
look
at
your
tax
form
and
see
what
your
adjusted
growth
income
is,
which
is
my
default,
because
it's
so
much
simpler
for
economic
development
activities
to
just
to
ask
for
that
information,
rather
than
a
12-page
application,
with
wage
verification
and
all
sorts
of
Hoops
to
jump
through
it's
much
more
involved
in
that
regard.
A
It's
much
more
accurate
in
some
respects,
but
it
is
much
more
complicated
to
go
through
so
we'll
talk
internally
and
see.
If
there's
where
you
can
just
you
know,
figure
out
what
what
strategies
there
might
be,
but
they
do
have
to
be
consistent
with
the
problem
with
the
with
you
know,
they
can't
jump
from
one
standard
to
the
other
in
the
same
category.
Program
is
probably
correct
and.
D
A
Funders
may
right
some
funders
may
say:
You
must
use
this
method
like,
for
example,
if
they're
getting
money
from
Student,
News,
State,
Housing
and
Community
Renewal,
they
may
say:
we've
selected,
which
standard
to
use
because
oftentimes
what
the
regulation
says
that
PJ
the
grantee
has
to
collect,
which
method
to
use
and
then
and
then
we
have
to
stick
with
it.
But
if
you,
if
the
PJ
using
the
term
that
homies
is
the
participating
jurisdiction,
is
the
grantee
under
a
home
program.
A
If
the
state
is
the
grantee,
they
have
to
select
one
method,
and
they
may
say:
if
you
want
our
money,
you
have
to
do
the
income
qualification
in
this
way.
You
don't
have
the
discretion
if
it's,
if
the
state
is
providing
the
funds
and
they're
the
grantee
from
the
federal
government,
and
so
that
could
be
a
challenge
to
them.
They
may
face
that
obstacle.
So
then
we'd
have
to
move
on
to
the
board
to
the
state
instead
of
the
new
one.
You
know,
but
let's
do
a
little
bit
more
investigation
and
see.
A
C
B
C
Environmental
review
now
that
was
I
thought
that
actually
was
didn't,
have
the
votes.
A
C
A
Correct
correct
I
think
we
would
satisfy
the
minimal
number
of
husbands.
She
was
suggesting
I,
don't
think
the
state
senate
is
necessarily
on
board
with
the
state
jumping
into
the
issue.
They
she
never
clarified
in
a
proposal
how
they
were
going
to
do
expedited
environmental
reviews,
which
is
we
seem
to
require
some
pretty
major
thinking
about.
How
are
you
you
know?
A
The
secret
process
is
very,
and
so,
if
you're
gonna,
somehow
figure
out
a
way
on
which
the
state
for
this
purpose
was
going
to
make
it
a
shorter,
simpler
process
and
that's
pretty
involved
changing
the
regulation
as
well
I
think
it's
got
a
long.
One
I
think
this
is
a
policy
statement
right
at
the
Bitcoin
moving
in
that
question.
A
So
if
you
did
propose
some
State
override
of
local
control
and
her
first
budget
or
what
or
maybe
it
was
what
she
was
running
for
office
regarding
the
century
dwelling
units,
she
wanted
to
require
communities
to
create
some
reasonable
standard
for
our
Century
dwelling
units
and
to
allow
for
them,
and
if
they
didn't
do
that,
then
she
was
suggesting
there
would
be
some
sort
of
state
standards
that
would
even
you
know,
the
off
the
shelf
behind
a
set
of
standards.
That
would
then
apply
that
didn't
get
through
the
state
senate.
C
A
And
because
New
York
state
has
such
small
governments,
you
know
we
have
a
boundary
of
your
government
and
it's
really
very
difficult
to
change
that
boundary.
Unless
both.
A
So
it
creates
a
lot
of
very
small
land
use.
Regulations
which
you
know
every
local
neighborhood
doesn't
want
to
have
its
neighborhood
impacted
I,
believe
they
think
the
you
know.
We
all
need
affordable
housing,
but
they
don't
want
it
next
door
right
kind
of
an
argument
and
it
tends
to
support
them,
and
you
have
so
many
small
Geographic
jurisdictions,
I
think
so
I
think
that's
a
challenge
for
the
way
the
state's
organized
I.
A
Don't
think
it's
such
a
big
challenge
right
here,
anytime,
it's
coming,
but
there
are
other
places
so
we'll
see,
I
think
it's
it's
very
early
in
the
process.
I
think
in
terms
of
that
proposal
from
the
governor's
room.
Thank
you,
foreign.
A
Well,
I've
supported
a
lot
of
for
time
and
energy
towards
the
goals
agency
and
then
I
also
want
to
make
you
aware,
similar
to
the
local
common.
The
white
Administration
has
ruled
in
a
new
fair
housing
proposed
removal.
So
we
did
a
an
elaborate
fair
housing
analysis
in
2017
or
126
communities
that
got
it
approved
at
the
federal
level
and
then
the
Trump
Administration
got.
A
It
so.
A
Administration
is
in
effect,
and
the
proposed
rule
can
be
made
executive
from
the
executive
side.
It
doesn't
require
legislative
approval,
but
it
is
subject
to
a
lot
of
requirements,
process,
wise
public
hearings
and
all
the
rest
proposed
rulemaking.
So
he's
got
a
a
similar,
Fair
Housing
Initiative
requirement
from
that.
A
They
would
like
to
see
every
Community
undertake
not
as
elaborate
as
the
original
one,
but
it's
similar
in
many
respects,
and
it
has
one
additional
twist,
which
is
they're,
saying
that
they're
expecting
every
Community
to
create
100
new,
affordable
housing
units
over
a
five-year
period
is
what
is
one
of
their
standards
that
they're
looking
into
incorporate
into
that
again.
We
would
probably
need
that
already,
because
we've
been
supporting
our
NHS
related
projects
and
other
tax
Trader
projects
in
the
community,
but
other
communities
may
have
the
chance
of
that.
A
It
and
then
it
will
be
go
through
that
rulemaking
process
if
it
gets
adopted
as
as
Pro
as
proposed.
Our
first
affordable,
Affair,
housing
or
housing
plan
under
the
new
Reds
would
be
due
not
for
upcoming
five-year
Consolidated
plan
for
the
next
one.
So.
A
Housing
opportunities,
homework,
shipping,
Rental
corporate
projected
classes-
and
you
know
and
they're
like
to
hold
the
grantee
responsible
for
solving
a
lot
of
the
problems.
You
know
that
relate
to
unequal
schools,
unequal
access
to
Recreation
facilities,
transitions
which
are
working.
It's
really
tricky
because
we.
B
A
D
Next
meeting
date
is
April
21st.
They
said
quarterly
meeting
still
working.
A
I
think
it's
working
reasonably
well.
You
can
always
go
to
special
event,
there's
an
issue
of
course,
but
these
four
accordingly
meetings,
you
know-
will
have
the
public
authorities
reporting
for
April,
along
with
the
audit
from
of
the
IRA
operations,
where
we
do
there.
We
do
the
budget
in
the
fall,
the
independent
contractors
in
January
and
then
July
be
doing
Skype
it
open
one
for
strategic
planning
or
staff
and
Personnel
issues
or
policy
enrollment,
so
I
think
that's
reasonably.