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From YouTube: Day 1: Encryption and You How the Internet Society Community Stands Up for Strong Encryption
Description
This session looks at what is at stake in the global encryption debate, what some of the threats to encryption are, and how you can join the effort to promote and defend strong encryption. As part of the discussion, members of the Internet Society and Global Encryption Coalition communities will outline how they advocate for strong encryption around the world, and how you can too.
Speakers: Frédéric Taes, Theorose Elikplim, Olaf Kolkman, Jose Legatheaux
A
Hello,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
the
first
contentful
session,
or
not
the
first
contentful
session,
but
the
first
track
of
the
of
the
community
week
we're
going
to
talk
about
encryption
here
today
and
to
do
that
we
have
a
wonderful
panel,
but
I
need
to
get
some
things
out
of
the
way
before
we
get
there.
A
There's
also
live
captioning
available,
also
in
two
two
languages,
spanish
and
french,
and
with
that
we
hope
to
serve
a
lot
of
you
to
make
this
more
understandable.
A
A
These
are
our
friends.
Some
of
them
speak
the
same
language.
Some
of
them
will
not
speak
the
same
language
natively
as
we
do,
and
the
expectation
is
that
we
engage
with
each
other
with
with
respect
and,
of
course,
in
a
responsible
fashion.
So
the
internet
code
of
conduct
applies
today
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
this
panel.
A
You
can
see
a
chat
area,
you
can
you
can
put
comments
there
and
you
can
put
your
questions
there
and
you
can
do
that
in
the
three
languages
that
we
have
these
sessions
in
english,
french
and
spanish.
A
A
And
when
we
give
you
the
mic,
please
introduce
yourself
with
your
name
and
and
your
affiliation
and
and
give
a
word
that
comes
to
mind
when,
when
thinking
about
your
about
the
internet
society
in
the
chat,
that
is
we're
recording
this
session
and
the
recording
will
be
made
available
on
the
platform
that
I
believe
includes
also
what
you
put
on
the
chat
so
be
aware
of
that.
A
And
if
you
are
on
social
media,
then
please
please,
please
use
the
hashtag
communityweek
21
during
this
event.
A
You
can
zoom
out
on
the
on
the
big
slide,
so
that
I
can
can
can
show
that
so
talking
about
encryption
today.
Encryption
is
a
part
of
us
as
a
collective
talking
about
a
stronger
internet
and
what
is
encryption?
Why
does
it
matter?
Well,
encryption
is
a
process
of
scrambling
or
and
ciphering
data,
so
that
it
only
can
be
read
by
somebody
who
can
return
it
to
its
original
state
by
decryption,
and
that's
meant
it's
meant
to
to
it's
a
method,
to
secure
data.
A
It's
a
method
to
make
sure
that
only
those
who
have
business
accessing
the
information
can
actually
access
it.
It's
a
bunch
of
mathematical
processes
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
A
B
A
Many
many
examples,
and
they
are
listed
here-
companies
for
their
financial
and
intellectual
property,
critical
infrastructure
such
as
energy,
water
and
transportation.
You
don't
want,
you
know
somebody
to
open
bridges,
so
you
need
to
make
sure
that
that
type
of
transport
is
protected
by
encryption
system.
Financial
systems.
Whenever
you
bank,
on
the
internet
or
do
a
payment,
encryption
is
used.
Healthcare.
Private
data
must
be
held
privately,
of
course,
and
then
there
is
of
course,
the
law,
enforcement
and
military
that
use
encryption
in
their
operational.
A
A
Governments
and
some
other
organizations
are
attempting
to
weaken
or
undermine
the
strong
encryption
they
the
the
argument
usually
is.
We
can
see
so
much
less
of
the
communications
that
we
were
used
to.
Please
open
that
up
again,
that's
called
the
going
dark
argument
and
often
they
demand
for
a
law
enforcement.
A
Technically,
that
is
impossible.
There
is
no
way
that
you
can
design
or
manage
a
system
safely.
That
would
achieve
that,
because
criminals
will,
in
the
end,
discover
and
use
the
same
way
to
get
in
and
bad
guys
will
just
use
other
types
of
encryption
to
to
communicate.
They
can
build
their
own
encryption
systems
and
actually
criminals.
Do
that
all
the
time?
A
And
if
you
look
at
the
maps
over
here,
then
what
you
see
is
several
different
pictures
from
several
different
communities
that
are
dealing
with
this.
Where
there
are
hotspots
about
the
use
of
encryption,
where
there
are
proposals
in
law,
there
are
ideas
floating
around
to
build
backdoors
or
to
put
a
threat
to
encryption,
and
that,
my
dear
friends,
that
is
what
we're
going
to
talk
about.
A
Oh
yeah
and
cdt
was
part
of
that
too,
of
course,
and
we
promote
and
defend
encryption
in
key
countries
and
mutually
and
and
in
the
multilateral
forum
where
encryption
is
under
threat
and
many
of
our
chapters
contribute
in
this
global
encryption
coalition
and
a
few
weeks
ago,
on
the
21st
of
october,
the
coalition
held
its
first
global
encryption
day
with
over
70
event,
events
worldwide
and
we
actually
reached
millions
of
users,
we
being
us
being
our
community,
because
you
were
all
involved
with
this.
A
A
She
is
a
lecturer
at
the
faculty
of
journalism
and
media
studies,
the
ghana
institute
of
journalism
and-
and
she
wrote
a
paper
on
on
on
on
examining
how
genian
ghanian
journalists
understand
encryption
and
apply
it
to
their
work
and
then
went
further.
A
She
actually
started
to
give
courses
because
she
wanted
to
put
her
money
to
her
mouth,
and
the
quote
that
I
I
took
from
her
somewhere
is
that
she
said
I
really
want
to
use
the
knowledge
that
I
gained
to
make
a
change.
I
didn't
just
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
numbers
who
do
training
and
just
go
home
with
the
certificate.
A
Without
doing
anything,
we
have
jose
legatto
he's
a
retired
full
process,
a
professor
at
the
nova
lisbon
university,
and
he
is
one
of
the
pioneers
of
the
portuguese
internet
and
one
of
the
pioneers
of
the
portuguese
chapter
who
he
helped
established.
And
he
has
been
the
president
of
the
chapter
from
2017
till
2021.
A
A
Helped
to
set
up
a
europe
a
petition
to
to
to
to
counter
a
european
proposal
and
in
a
recent
block
he
said,
and
that's
my
favorite
code.
We
had
to
respond
to
the
commission's
positions
because
it's
horrifying.
A
Finally,
we
have
frederictas
who
is
currently
the
president
of
the
of
the
belgium
chapter
of
the
internet
society
and
they
are
engaged
in
an
an
advocacy
campaign.
A
Basically,
against
the
data
retention
legislation,
which
threatens
and
undermines
encryption,
my
favorite
quote
when
we
were
preparing
for
this
panel
was
that
he
said
that
that,
and
that
is
completely
in
the
spirit
of
the
internet
society.
A
Of
course,
we
are
a
small
world,
a
big
family
and
the
internet
is
connecting
us
all
together
and
with
that,
I
have
asked
all
our
panelists
to
give
us
a
five-minute
description
of
what
it
is
that
they
do
and
why
it
is
that
they
do
that,
what
they
do
and
without
further
ado,
I
would
like
to
ask
theoros
to
to
start
with
that
and
and
tell
us,
ghana,
during
this
training.
What
is
this?
What
is
it
that
that
you
did,
and
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
personal
motivation.
C
Right
so
good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
evening,
everyone
from
what
you're
connecting
it's
nice
to
be
here.
My
name
is
hiros
eli,
klim
jiniku,
I'm
currently
the
chair
for
communication
for
isogan
adapter
and
yes,
of
course,
I've
done
quite
some
few
things,
but
it
still
be
unfair
to
say
I
did
it
alone.
Of
course,
I
worked
together
with
my
chapter
and
we
have
identified
that.
C
Usually
there
is
in
terms
of
encryption
or
even
to
say
that
in
terms
of
security
and
privacy,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
gaps
that
we
identify
within
ghana.
We
notice
mostly
that
when
you
go
on
to
social
media
platforms,
or
even
when
you
talk
to
the
youth,
they
are
quick
to
give
out
their
passwords.
They
are.
C
They
are
quick
to
share
sensitive
information
online,
so
we
started
by
taking
organizing
programs
in
senior
high
school
that
we
call
the
next
gen
if
cut,
of
course,
and
just
right
into
the
just
the
past
few
weeks
on
the
21st
of
october,
we
had
a
nationwide
encryption
program
where
we
organize
an
encryption,
education
or,
let's
say
literacy
and
various
senior
high
schools.
We
did
that
in
every
region
and
we
really
focused
on
taking
them
through
what
encryption
itself
is.
C
What
are
some
of
the
key
challenges
that
are
mostly
faced
by
the
youth?
We
spoke
extensively
on
privacy
and
security,
because
those
are
the
key
foundations
of
encryption.
Those
are
the
the
backbone
what
encryption
is
built
upon.
We
try
as
much
as
possible
to
break
it
down
in
the
layman's
voice
to
them.
Now.
What
I
usually
experience
is
that
when
people
are
talking
about
encryption,
it's
most,
they
mostly
come
across
as
technical.
So
the
word
is
too
big.
What
does
it
mean?
Do
I
have
to
have
a
technical
background?
C
What
exactly
does
that
mean?
So
we
try
as
a
journal
to
find
easy
way
of
making
them
understand
what
it
is
and
how
they
can
apply
that
without
having
it
to
make
it
look
big,
and
it
was.
It
was
quite
good
and
it's
great
that
we
identified
the
chat
that
we
are.
We
are
we
are
seeing
or
what
people
are
doing
that
are
not
right
and
again.
C
I
have
had
my
own
personal
experience
where
I'm
taking
this
encryption,
but
also
personal
or
so
many
times
that
I
have
to
send
wrong
emails.
I
think
even
for
this
community
call,
I
have
to
send
the
wrong
information
to
somebody
else,
and
the
person
has
to
draw
my
attention
to
it,
and
that
has
been
the
trend
and
again,
as
the
journalists
doing
the
pandemic
afraid,
especially
that
we
share
a
lot
of
sensitive
information
to
our
correspondent.
C
We
try
to
talk
to
people
and
share
things
that,
on
a
normal
basis,
shouldn't
be
in
the
eye
of
everyone,
and
it
mostly
happens.
We
just
fall
in
the
wrong
hands
or,
and
mostly
just
happen,
to
be
intercepted
by
hackers
or
anyone
else.
So
then,
how
do
we
keep
people's
lives
safe?
Because
if
we
are
fighting
for
human
rights
and
we
are
fighting
for
safety
online,
then
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
information
and
whatever
we
are
sending
our
course
is
also
wrapped
up
in
a
nicer
way.
C
So
of
course,
we
we
take
the
literacy
key
very
seriously.
We
try
as
much
as
possible
to
play
the
role
of
advocacy
right
where
we
try
the
chapter
when
we
say
when
I
say
we
I'm
doing
myself
in
the
chapter
internet
society
chapter,
we
try
as
much
as
possible
to
do
advocacy,
so
we
build
relation
or
partnership
with
other
organizations
and
we
try
to
organize
webinars
at
events
on
the
topic.
C
Just
last
two
weeks
sort
of
we
had
some
programs
on
cyber
security,
which
I
think
is
also
key
when
we
are
talking
about
encryption.
Because
again,
I
did
establish
that
on
security,
we
tried
to
organize
partnership
to
organize
programs
and
events
so
that
in
our
little
in
our
little
area
we
have
been
the
web
of
advocacy.
So
this
has
been
the
trend
in
ghana.
I
mean
this
is
not
the
end,
then
we
are
coming
up
with
more
event,
but
from
now
there's
an
overview
of
what
we've
done.
C
The
problem
we've
identified
the
solutions
that
we
have
provided
and,
of
course,
what
we
hope
to
do
as
well.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
Thank
you
very,
very
much
that
also
already
touched
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
how,
but
we
can
we'll
continue
on
that
a
little
bit
later
jose.
May
I
give
you
the
floor.
D
Okay,
fine!
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
jose
gattu
and
I
was
up
to
some
months
ago
the
president
of
the
portuguese
chapter
and
I'm
still
a
member
of
the
chapter
and
work
in
close
cooperation
with
the
current
board.
I
am
going
to
speak
on
the
pro-encryption
campaign.
Our
chapter
is
running
since
the
beginning
of
this
year.
D
D
When,
at
the
end
of
last
year,
where
it
was
stated
that
they
intended
to
regulate
use
of
encryption
with
the
goal
of
when
mandated
by
judges,
police
authorities
would
be
entitled
to
assess
user
communication
supported
by
internet
platforms
or
encrypted
communications
of
internet
users,
and
that
was
horrifying.
As
as
the
love
told
before,
and
the
the
the
main
problem
with
the
the
commission
intentions
is,
european
laws
will
become
national
laws
in
all
countries.
D
European
countries
that
belong
to
the
european
union,
so
the
board
of
isil
portugal,
the
chapter
decided
to
start
an
awareness
campaign
on
the
perils
of
these
intentions.
First,
national
level,
and
after
as
portugal
was
the
coordinating
country
of
the
eu
council
during
the
first
semester
of
the
current
year.
D
For
those
that
are
not
aware
of
the
the
european
union
way
of
working
is
each
semester.
Different
country
is
the
coordinator
of
the
the
the
body
of
the
prime
ministers
and
we
intended
to
to
go
to
the
political
side
of
sing
because
well,
there
are
the
members
of
the
parliament
who
who
are
going
at
the
end
of
the
day
to
make
or
not
accept
the
regulation,
and
why?
Why
did
he
start
this
campaign?
D
D
In
fact,
without
breaking
the
security
features
of
today
internet
solutions,
there
is
no
known
technological
solution
to
the
eu's
stated
goals.
There's
it's
impossible
to
implement
it
in
the
way
they
they
they
presented.
That
is
they.
They
say
that,
besides
users,
only
authorities
authorized
by
judges
could
access
the
communication.
D
In
fact,
the
only
non-solutions
to
to
fulfill
that
goal
would
be
to
weaken
encryption,
as
is
the
case
in
china,
for
example,
and
only
allow
users
to
use
encryption
that
is
weak
and
breakable
by
any
adversary
without
quite
computational
power.
D
The
the
second
option
would
be
to
make
the
encryption
keys
available
to
a
third
party.
The
third
party
that
would
then,
by
order
of
the
judge,
revealed
the
communications
in
clear
and
that
the
only
way
to
implement
it
is
to
give
these
keys
to
the
the
third
party,
the
platforms
that
that
run,
the
applications
and,
finally,
the
the
third
way
to
implement
that
is
by
giving
authorities
access
to
user
devices
the
data
of
the
users
in
the
devices
before
they.
They
are
encrypted.
D
What
is
known
as
backdoors
and
has
been
fully
shown
that
it
compromises
the
security
of
user
devices.
D
So
the
the
practical
results
of
the
commission
intents
are
equivalent
to
making
the
use
of
encryption
and
security
software
mostly
useless,
and
since
there
would
always
be
at
least
a
third
party
in
general,
a
platform
able
to
access
users
communications
in
clear
and
that
would
transform
those
third
parties
by
design
in
security,
trust
parties
with
all
powers
over
user
communications.
D
Whatever
the
kind
of
communication
would
be
those
communications,
okay,
that
would
result
in
a
major
weakening
of
internet
security.
Okay,
because
all
used
platforms
would
always
have
access
to
users,
communication
that
would
also
open
the
door
and
that's
very
important,
because
I
think
it's
the
following
intention
to
export
to
those
platforms.
The
role
of
automated
analysis
of
the
communications
in
search
of
suspect,
content,
okay
and
and
all
that
as
a
love
tool,
would
prevent
criminals
from
using
encryption
since
technology
is
known
and
widely
available
and
implemented.
D
So
that's
why
we
were
quite
terrified
by
by
the
intentions
of
the
commission
and
decide
to
start
the
the
companion
I
I
can
tell
you
later
what
we
what
we
did
in
detail,
and
we
do
we
have
engaged
to
to
reach
the
goal
of
okay
of
trying
to
combat
this.
A
Thank
you
jose
for
that
and
now
fred
yeah.
B
What
did
you
be
there
yeah
frederictas
here
and
president
of
the
begging
chapter
of
internet
society
in
the
what
we
there
are
two
phases
we
started
gradually?
First,
to
support
globally
the
encryption,
the
global
encryption
coalition,
a
very
good
initiative
from
internet
society.
We
were
inspired
by
the
switzerland
chapter
in
that
way.
B
We
have
supported
also
the
initiative
from
a
portugal
chapter
about
european
commission
and
we
co-signed
the
letter
and
we
make
also
advocacy
and
education
on
internet
about
encryption,
what
it
means,
and
then
it
has
go
full
speed
a
few
months
ago,
because
there
was
a
project
of
law
and
it
is
still
a
project
of
law
to
weaken
encryption
in
belgium,
with
the
purpose
that
belgium
will
serve,
as
example
in
europe,
to
weaken
encryption
and
to
come
with
backdoors
from
the
minister.
It's
for
more
clarity.
B
I
have
to
say
that
we
had
really
really
good
cos
signatures
of
this
letter
from
professor
of
universities
from
different
business
companies
and
to
support
that
and
from
different
internet
society
chapters
over
the
world.
So
so
this
message
was
really
a
catch
from
from
the
government,
and
then
we
approach
also
the
media
and
from
the
media.
B
We
have
experience
that
we
talk
later,
but
encryption
is
something
difficult,
so
we
more
address
privacy
first
and
to
open
the
debates
and
and
then
we
had
more
than
30
publications
in
in
different
newspapers
etc,
and
from
this
channel
we
even
had
an
answer
from
the
belgian
government
from
the
person
in
charge
of
digitalization
and
protection
of
individual
rights
against
these
roles.
That's
that's
a
good
achievement,
but
it's
not
finished.
We
really
feel
that
the
encryption
is.
B
It's
a
long,
long
journey
because
we
see
that
here
and
then
the
different
countries
and
so
being
a
big
internet
family
is
really
good
to
to
help
us
each
other.
For
that
and
my
personal
motivation
for
that,
I'm
currently
information
security
officer
in
in
the
big
companies.
I
see
what's
happening
with
the
data
with
the
different
security
holes
and
all
the
danger
that
people
cannot
realize.
B
Another
person
who
already
active
is
our
dpo
in
this
project
data
protection
officer,
it's
a
role
existing
in
in
europe
and
he
contacted
the
different
organisms,
data
protection
authorities.
You
know
what
has
been
named.
What
is
their
standpoint
also
to
to
know?
What's
the
legislation
process
to
know
where
we
can
leverage
and
intervene
to
to
make
a
law
to
be
stopped
a
project
of
law
to
be
stopped
against
awakening
encryption
and
august
encryption?
A
Yeah
yeah,
this
is
as
I
as
I
promised,
a
sort
of
a
broad
set
of
approaches
all
somewhat
local,
and
I
think
that
it's
one
of
the
strengths
of
us
as
a
community
as
the
internet
society
community
that
we
can
organize
sort
of
at
every
level
as
a
european,
I
sort
of
use
the
word
subsidiarity
in
that
context,
take
the
measures
at
a
at
a
scale
where
you
can
actually
impact
them,
and
what
what
what
I
like
about.
A
A
In
all
the
other
organizations
that
in
different
nations,
but
perhaps
also
in
your
own
in
your
own
nation,
are
working
on
these
issues
and
you
you
manage
to
find
each
other
and
learn
from
each
other,
and
and
that's
also,
the
reason
why
we
as
the
internet
society,
became
part
of
the
global
encryption
coalition,
because
this
is
such
a
big
topic.
This
is
something
that
we
cannot
do
on
our
own.
A
A
How
question
part
of
the
how
question-
and
I
think
you
already
touched
upon
that
a
little
bit-
te
rosa
rosa,
but
how
do
you
make
it
so
that
you
reach
people's
hearts,
because
it's
really
really
really
a
technical
type
of
thing
and
before
you
know
it,
you
were
talking
about
diffie,
hellman
or
you're,
talking
about
elliptic
curves
and
the
number
of
bits
that
are
involved,
and
at
the
moment
you
did
that.
I
just
saw
already
a
few
people
leaving
this
chat.
Because
of
that.
A
C
All
right,
so
I
I
think
I
was
that.
Well,
I
think
that
to
touch
somebody's
head,
of
course
it's
hard
work,
but
for
starters
I
don't
have
any
technical
background.
I
I
think
the
last
time
we
had
this
conversation
at
another
event,
I
was
just
telling
everybody
that
to
for
you
to
be
interested
in
something
you
just
have
to
give
it
try,
because
if
I
look
back,
I
I
wouldn't
have
even
started
this
encryption
journey.
I
started
from
being
part
of
the.
I
talk
fundamental
courses.
C
I
did
that,
and
I
just
told
myself
that
okay,
I
I
didn't
really
like
the
idea,
but
I
wanted
to
see
what
it
is,
because
the
name
looks
so
big
and
I
just
don't
know
what
the
name
actually
stands
for.
But
the
point
is
that
why
would
I
go
through
all
the
sessions
and
all
the
time
and
just
not
do
anything
with
it?
So,
even
with
the
little
that
I
was
thought
at
the
fundamental,
I
still
run
with
that.
C
So,
first
of
all,
it's
not
really
about
how
big
or
how,
whatever,
how
technical
it
looks.
But
it's
about
how
blessed
you
are
able
to
take
the
message.
So
do
you
love
what
you're
going
to
do?
Do
you
believe
in
what
you're
going
to
do?
So
I
think
that
that's
what
we
did
in
the
ghana
chapter
for
for
this
year's
encryption
event.
It
was
led
by
the
chair
for
youth
and
communication,
religion
and
the
supported
by
other
japan
members
as
well.
We
have
identified
that
okay
yeah.
C
Everybody
would
be
thinking
the
way
I
am
thinking
and,
of
course
they
would
prefer
to
go
into
internet
governance.
I'm
not
saying
that
is
bad.
It's
actually
a
good
course.
I
took
that,
but
that
is
easier
to
understand
when
we
talk
about
internet
and
we
talk
about
governance,
that's
easier
to
understand
and
easily
to
go
to
that
encryption,
because
even
the
name
itself
sounds
technical.
So
how
do
we
make
people
understand
that
it's
not
technical,
it's
for
everyone.
So,
first
you
are
an
internet
user.
C
C
So
we
started
with
a
lot
of
things:
we
we
open
an
email
list,
we
open
up
a
from
where
we
ask
people
what
they
think
encryption
is
we
give
people
opportunity
to
even
try
to
host
such
events
in
their
various
regions,
and
we
we
took
the
drive,
that's
the
essence
of
the
original
event
that
we
went
to
every
region
or
not
every
like
80
percent
of
the
regions
in
ghana.
We
try
to
organize
little
events
and
we
explain
it.
C
So
it's
the
essence
of
explanation
and
I'm
very
happy
with
everybody
that
we
went
with
because
it's
not
they
are
not
just
going
because
they
have
to
go.
They
are
going
because
they
love
it.
If
you
see
the
passion,
our
pictures
and
videos
are
out
there,
you
can
always
search
for
that.
But
if
you
see
the
video
you
see
the
passion
and
the
love
that
people
are
talking
with.
It
wouldn't
really
get
you
to
ask
them
like.
When
you
see
me,
would
they
ever
agree
to
you
that
I'm
not
technical?
C
No
because
I
talk
about
it,
I
teach
that
with
insulin
society,
and
I
do
a
lot
of
things-
everybody
thinks
I'm
technical,
but
I'm
not
because
I
love
it
and
I
want
to
know
more
about
it
and
I'm
really
particular
about
my
safety
online.
So
I
think
it's
just
about
the
passion
and
what
you're
committed
to
and
again
just
before
I
wrap
up
this
one.
C
When
we
talk
about
commitment,
it's
it's
just
how
willing
you
are,
of
course,
I
I
look
out
to
what
other
chapters
are
doing
as
well
to
learn
how
they've
been
about
it.
I've
subscribed
to
the
encryption
collection
mailing
list.
I
followed
the
conversation.
I
followed
the
social
media
platform
to
see
what
they
are
doing.
I
try
to
read
about
it
to
research,
just
so
that
when
I
meet
somebody
and
I'm
talking
to
them
about
it,
I
don't
have
to
have
all
the
fun.
C
But
I
try
to
understand
it
in
the
layman's
point
and
I
think
that's
actually
the
best,
because
I
I
wouldn't
even
look
at
the
technical
look
at
it
easier
in
the
in
the
easier
version
because
of
my
background.
So
I
think
that
that
is
way
it's
just
about
standing
for
it,
knowing
that
it
is
for
your
own
safety
and
privacy,
and
that
will
sort
it
out.
A
Thank
you.
Cea
rose
talking
about
understanding
just
to
the
audience.
If
you
have
any
questions,
don't
hesitate
to
put
them
in
the
chat
box,
they
will
be
fed
to
us
and
and
will
be
able
to
address
them
in
a
little
bit
over
to.
A
How
do
you
make
this
a
understandable
and
relatable
topic.
B
Good
question:
first:
we
we
test
that
in
in
smaller
committees
with
with
our
members,
we
saw
chapter
members
to
get
feedback
and
the
first
feedback
was
only
the
words
encryption
and
you
people
are
lost.
We
need
to
to
start
to
explain
like
you
did
or
laugh
yourself.
What
is
encryption
be
before
starting
to
talk
to
people,
so
we
addressed
that
with
a
keem
chemical,
simple
and
stupid
approach,
more
focused
on
privacy,
first,
because
privacy,
everyone
feels
concerned
to
know
what
it
is.
B
Let's
contact
with
facebook,
with
many
many
others
on
the
place,
and
that
was
really
the
the
starting
point
also
for
the
media,
and
then
we
take
that
as
opportunity
to
explain
that
it's
more
than
confidentiality,
it's
also
integrity.
I've
talked
with
my
bank,
I
cannot
exchange.
Someone
cannot
change
the
amount
of
the
the
bank
accounts
who
receive
money
and
also
digital
signature,
and
we
we
take
that
as
opportunity
to
explain
what
is
encryption.
B
The
second
point
in
the
whole
was
to
put
people
against
their
contradiction.
We
have
even
a
politician
here,
our
prime
minister
who
in
the
past,
firmly
condemned
the
the
ideas
to
weaken
encryption.
He
did
that
in
the
past,
and
so
now
we
can
take
it
back
to
today.
B
Another
example:
we
have
gdpr
and
the
regulation
for
data
protection
in
europe
asking
for
more
and
more
security,
and-
and
here
we
should
open
breach
and
holds
in
the
security.
That's
contradiction
so
different
contradictions,
that's
the
second
axis
and
the
third
one
is
the
the
request
of
people
for
more
security.
People
want
more
and
more
security
today,
and
we
have
very
good
examples
with
ransomware.
B
Ransomware
is
a
way
of
using
encryption.
Even
lawyers
association
of
lawyers
in
belgium
were
hit
by
handsome
rare.
Even
the
prime
minister
was
spied
himself
without
acknowledgement
from
authorities,
and
that's
that's
good
to
explain
that
civil
cyber
criminals
will
never
respect.
If
there
is
a
law
against
encryption,
they
will
use
it
and
if
we
open
a
whole
other
cyber
criminals
can
use
it,
and
and
now
the
message
is
passing
yeah.
That's
that's
really
your
journey
here.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
which
brings
us
to
jose
same
question,
sort
of
same
question.
How
did.
D
I
I
think
it's
quite
easy
to
to
explain
people
that
well,
the
secrecy
and
authenticity
depends
on
keys
on
encryption
keys
and
if
those
keys
are
shared
with
with
someone
else
that
someone
else
can
access
your
your
data
and
can
can
modify
it
and
and
so
on.
D
So
I
I
see
we
in
the
first
phase
we
intended
to
to
show
mainly
to
politicians
what
they
were
they
they
had
at
at
end,
if,
if
they
weaken
that
that
all
that
process,
because
everything
is
dependent
on
the
secrecy
of
those
keys
and
there's
no
alternative.
D
D
Having
the
keys
of
the
conversations
okay
so
and
the
internet,
you
would
give
access
to
those
keys
to
every
platform
and
so
on,
and
it's
quite
understandable.
That
would
be
very
this
a
disaster
because,
if
you
you,
you
are
not
discussing
with
an
incumbent,
mobile
operator
or
two
or
three
you
are
discussing
with
lots
and
lots
of
of
of
platforms.
D
D
We
made
the
first
open
letter
that
we
sent
to
every
member
of
the
european
parliament,
portuguese
member
of
the
european
parliament,
to
every
member
of
the
portuguese
parliament,
and
even
some
of
the
members
of
the
european
parliament
have
asked
the
commissions
for
for
explanations.
How
do
the
the
the
commission
would
implement
that?
And
they
they
did
those
requests
based
on
our
on
our
open
letter
and
then
that
the
same
open
letter
was
cosigned
by
six
or
seven
civil
associations,
not
for
profit.
D
D
We,
we
wrote
an
open
letter
also
with
the
help
of
the
the
swiss
chapter
and
the
and
the
netherlands
chapter
and
asked
for
all
european
chapters
to
to
cos,
sign
that
open
letter
and
and
send
it
to
the
our
prime
minister.
As
as
coordinator
of
the
the
european
commission,
and
we
had,
we
have
been
lucky
because
the
netherlands,
swiss
chapter
the
belgian
chapter,
the
catalonia
deutschland
finland,
norway,
slovenia,
spain
and
united
kingdom
chapters
cosigned
the
letter
sent
to
to
our
prime
minister
well.
D
But
for
the
moment
what
happened?
Is
there
there's
no
initiative
in
portugal
to
to
put
forward
a
legislation
like
the
one
we
see
in
in
belgium,
but
I
think
they
they.
It
will
come
because
this
is
in
the
and
well.
We
have
been
able
even
to
to
publish
the
the
open
letter
in
several
newspapers
and
well.
D
We
have
tried
to
to
to
make
more
awareness
possible
for
the
the
people
that
is
going
to
to
take
a
decision
later
and
and
well.
The
the
example
of
the
belgian
chapter
when
the
results
they
they
got
recently,
it's
maybe
of
an
hope
for
the
future,
because
some
people
understand
the
problem,
understand
the
problem
that
there's
it's
not,
you
don't
need
to
to
go
deeply
technically.
D
A
Yeah,
so
so
we're
almost
at
the
end
of
the
of
the
the
session
two
more
minutes.
Time
flies
when
you're
having
fun,
but
I
I
and
I
there
are
a
couple
of
questions
in
the
chat
which,
unfortunately,
I
cannot
get
to,
because
I
do
want
to
ask
you
an
important
question,
namely
what
would
be
your
advice?
A
B
Okay,
I
can
start
it's
really
when
you
have
something
with
the
community
and
we
had
help
from
to
internet
society
globally
and
with
the
other
chapters
through
with
the
community,
because
internet
is
really
a
public
media,
not
as
the
post
or
the
telephony.
It's
a
public.
It's
worldwide
media.
C
Right,
so
I
would
say
that
safety
is
key.
The
internet
is
our
home.
Every
chapter
must
make
sure
that
all
their
members
are
safe
online,
and
that
starts
with
encryption.
They
have
to
take
the
battle.
They
have
to
make
sure
that
safety
is
their
number
one
priority
among
everything.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
and
you're,
given
a
good
example
on
how
to
make
those
politicians
aware.
Thank
you
for
that
with
that
we
are
20
minutes
past
the
hour.
That
is
a
valid,
a
valid
type
of
saying,
almost
anywhere
on
the
planet
except
a
few
places.
A
I
would
like
to
thank
the
panelists
for
their
insightful
and
inspiring.
I
have
to
say,
remarks
on
this
important
topic
of
encryption
and
I
hope
it
inspired
some
of
you
who
are
joining
us
today
to
also
take
action
and
you've
seen
that
action
does
not
necessarily
need
to
be
writing
to
your
or
trying
to
influence
a
decision
in
in
parliament.
It
can
also
be
teaching.
It
can
also
be
training.