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A
Okay,
so
welcome
was
there
anything
top
of
mind
that
anybody
wanted
to
discuss?
Do
we
want
to
do?
I
think
everybody's
been
to
these
meetings
before
nelson.
I
remember
you
from
previous
meetings,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
spend
a
whole
lot
of
time
with
introductions
unless
people
well.
Everybody
else
knows
each
other
and
also
why
don't
you
introduce
yourself
again
just
so.
We
remember
what
your
involvement
is:
go
off.
B
Okay,
I
have
a
long,
slow,
moving
project
to
connect
to
service
a
small
special
library
collections
around
the
country
and
maybe
around
the
world
that
are
english
language
and
I've
been
I've
managed
since
the
last
meeting
to
install
a
koha
on
a
on
a
linhode,
it's
now
visible
to
the
world
and
I've
loaded
bib
records
in
and
anyway.
So
I'm
I'm
really
interested
to
slowly
sort
out
how
how
to
do
this.
A
So
is
there
a
particular
with
your
your
project,
nelson?
Is
there
a
particular
point
where
you're
getting
stuck
with
anything
now
or
is
it
just
because
it's
the
nature
of
it
being
slow-moving.
B
B
Their
their
pdf
of
their
their
books
and
I'm
trying
to
I'm
kind
of
stuck
more
on
mark
edit
right
now,
frankly
and
use
of
the
the
regular
expressions.
B
So
it's
not
exactly
a
consortium
kind
of
thing,
but
then
I
also
have
another
project
that
services,
an
association
for
doctors,
and
so
I'm
split
between
whether
to
try
to
make
pdfs
articles
professional
medical
articles
available
across
and
maybe
some
audio
recordings
across
coha
or
maybe
use
d
space.
So
another
thing
I'm
thinking
of
doing
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
install
d
space,
and
then
you
know
cover
it
with
with
a
with
a
website
of
some
sort,
which
is
why
I've
been
so
interested
in
aspen.
But
that
seems
to
be
unreachable.
B
At
this
point.
Yeah.
A
B
Right
so
I
had
a
really
great
time.
Lauren
and
I
had
a
had
a
just
had
a
talk
had
a
and
fred
king
and
I
have
had
a
conversation
since
our
last
meetings
and
I've
been
kind
of
looking
at
other
sites,
as
as
reference
points
for
what
you
know,
what
could
be
done,
how
could
it
look,
but
unfortunately
lauren's
situation
that
didn't
include
d
space?
It
was
another
sort
of
proprietary
thing
thing
that
I
wouldn't
be
looking
into.
A
A
I
think
we
have
somebody
else
joining
us,
hi
jana,
welcome
to
the
consortia
special
interest
group
meeting.
We
were
just
talking
with
nelson
about
a
project
he's
working
on
with
koha.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
E
I
am
jana
prock,
I'm
director
of
the
keller
public
library
in
texas,
and
I
am
also
with
the
metro
share
consortium,
public
libraries.
A
Cool
and
what
what
brings
you
to
discuss
consortia
today.
E
Well,
I
I
wanted
to
listen
to
what
other
people
were
doing
and
we
and
we,
I
generally
report
on
it
at
our
meetings
and
we
don't
really
have
an
agenda
for
today
of
what
we
were
of
what
we
were
wanting
to
find
out.
Okay,.
C
That's
cool.
We
don't
have
an
agenda
either
yeah.
A
Yeah,
it's
kind
of
loose
and
seeing
what
people
come.
I
do
have
a
couple
things
I
was
thinking
would
be
worth
discussing.
I
don't
know
I'm
sure
if
libraries
aren't
on
2011,
yet
they
will
be
soon.
I
know
we're
going
august
1st,
so
that's
right
around
the
corner
and
we
have
it
on
our
test
server.
A
So
I
thought
that
would
be
good
to
see
if
people
are
migrating
to
that
version
soon
or
if
they
haven't
any
any
experiences
either
through
testing
or
through
actual
experience
that
they've
come
up
against.
With
that.
C
C
Well,
let
me
just
find
the
name
of
it,
so
the
interface
for
searching
for
borrowers
in
checkout
and
the
interface
the
the
search
results.
When
you
do
a
search
in
the
check-in
box
used
to
be
used,
it
used
to
you,
be
you'd,
go
to
check-in
and
you'd
run
a
search,
and
it
was
a
check-in
search
or
checkout
search.
When
you
search
for
a
patron's
name,
when
you've
got
the
tab
set
to
check
out,
you
did
one
search
and
then,
when
you're
doing,
search
patrons
it
does
a
different
search.
C
Those
were
two
differently
executed,
searches
and
somebody
said
why
do
we
need
to
have
two
separate
searches
there
and
so
they're
one
search
now?
So
when
you
do
a
checkout
search,
it's
executing
the
same
search
as
a
patron
search,
and
if
you
have
any
staff
members,
I
have
some
staff
members
that
their
circulation,
their
only
circulation
permission
is
circulated
remaining
permissions
and
their.
C
E
Let
me
let
me
actually
log.
A
F
A
Yeah
our
we're
set
up
like
christopher
described,
where,
if
you
have,
if
you're
doing,
check
it
and
check
out,
we
have
you
permissions
to
edit
the
borrower,
even
if
they're
very
limited.
I
don't
think
we
have
anybody
that
has
lower
permissions
than
that
yeah.
C
Some
of
the
in
particular
some
of
the
really
poor
libraries-
and
you
know
I
have
a
couple
libraries
there.
Their
budget
is,
you
know
less
than
20
000
a
year,
and
so
they
rely
heavily
on
volunteers.
To
do
stuff.
Do.
C
Well,
no
because
they
don't
have
that
permission,
they
can,
they
can
look
up
a
patron
and
they
can
check
things
in
and
out.
But
if
you
don't
have
edit
borrowers,
you
can't
see
their
address.
All
you
can
see
is
is
what
they've
got
checked
in
and
what
they've
got
checked
out.
You
don't
see
any
other
information
about
the
borrowers,
so
here
let
me
I've
got
this
pulled
up
now
with
which.
F
Kind
of
makes
sense,
I
mean,
if
you
can't,
you
know
there
has
to
be
some.
I
mean
you're
trying
to
establish
a
role
that
can
you
know,
do
that,
checking
and
check
out,
but
they're
not
allowed
to
you
know
to
go
beyond
that.
Then
you
know.
Should
they
see
more
information
about
a
patron,
so
I
can
kind
of
see
where
you
know
that's
getting
a
little
muddy
in
those
permissions
and
yeah
and
why
they
chose
that
division.
Maybe
that
was
purposeful.
C
See
if
I
do,
if
I
scan
a
card
it'll,
take
me
to
that
account
and
I
can
check
things
out
and
I
can
go
up
here
and
I
can
check
things
in,
but
I
don't
see
any
contact
information
I
mean
this
is
all
you
see
when
that's
when
you
just
have
that
one
permission?
C
The
problem
is,
if
I'm
I'm
here
and
I
go
to
if
I
go
to
checkout
and
I
type
in.
C
I'm
going
to
get
this
when
you
do
a
checkout
search
now
you
get
this
error
message
you
and
I
have
permission
so
this
puts
you
know.
One
of
the
libraries
where
I
have
that
this
is
most
commonly
used
is
at
the
school
libraries,
because
we
have
school
libraries
where
they
have
students
that
work
in
the
library
that
you
know
they're
the
student
aides.
C
F
F
C
Yeah
I'll
find
I'll
find
a
way
to
work
around
it,
because
I
always
do.
F
C
So,
let's
see
there
is
a
bug
and
there's
only
two.
There
are
only
two
people
on
this
bug
right
now
or
maybe
not
maybe
there's
more.
Oh,
that's
a
different
one.
A
So
so
george,
the
way
we
do
a
lot
of
those
school
situations
because
we
all
have
don't
have
it,
and
this
is
not
a
perfect
solution,
but
because
we
don't
often
don't
have
library
staff
in
our
schools
either.
It's
just
having
a
permanent
personal
library
is
really
rare
in
rural
places.
C
A
That
too,
through
the
opac,
but
they
have
to
put
in
the
full
card
number
now
they
know
our
our
student
ids
are
typically
based
on
the
barcode,
but
then
we
do
a
pad
prefix,
so
they
have
to
type
that
in
as
well.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
an
annoyance,
but
it
it
works,
and
we
have
a
number
of
schools
doing
that.
C
C
F
C
Yeah
and
the
reason
that
I
imagine
one
of
the
reasons
that
edit
borrowers
you
know
in
the
in
the
patron
search,
you
have
the
address
information
there
on
the
screen,
but
in
the
checkout
search
in
the
older
versions.
All
you
have
is
the
name
and
the
card
number.
F
Makes
sense
with
how
how
they're
going
and
why
have
two
different
search
mechanisms
when
you
can
have
one
that's
consistent
and
in
fact,
on
some
bug
somewhere,
I
may
have
chimed
in
on
that
and
said
you
know
when
you
search
up
for
a
patron
here.
It
looks
different
than
when
you
search
for
a
patron
here.
Why?
Why
is
it?
F
You
know
coming
up
with
different
information
and
it's
like
you
know
why
not
make
something
more
consistent,
so
I
might
might
have
contributed
to
that
that
move,
but
you
know
it
makes
sense,
but
yeah
searching
should
not
be
hindered.
C
C
S
would
get
you
every
borrower
that
has
an
s
in
their
account,
which
was
too
many
results
I
had
it
said
I
had
some
jquery
in
there
that
limited
that
search
to
a
minimum
of,
I
think
three
characters
in
order
to
keep
from
getting
those
I
mean
we
have
like
115
000
borrowers,
so
it
would
limit
those
to
a
reasonable
number
of
results,
but
the.
C
Has
always
been
a
a
data
table,
so
you
only
see
the
first.
You
know
20
results
by
default,
so.
C
F
I
think
other
than
that
I
I've
been
doing
tests
with
our
test
server
and
haven't
run
into
many
issues.
The
you
know,
the
cover
flow
was
was
initially
one
thing
and
it
seemed
like.
There
was
one
other
issue
that
was
pretty
minor,
but
this
was
a
fairly
smooth
transition.
C
Yeah
there
weren't
that
many
aren't
that
many
changes,
nothing
major
yeah.
A
Nothing
major,
I
I
think
for
us
like
we
try
to
do
as
much
testing
as
we
can,
but
until
you
get
there's
just
only,
you
can't
recreate
like
the
world
in
which
there's
so
many
transactions
happening
in
a
given
time
period
that
that's
usually
just
the
tonnage
of
transactions
is
usually
where,
if
we're
gonna
get
tripped
up,
it's
just
something.
Something
goes
super
slow.
A
All
of
a
sudden
that
used
to
work
better,
so
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
seeing
if,
if
we
get
hit
one
with
one
of
those,
but
I
don't
think
they
messed
with
too
many
things
that
should
affect
that
one
of
the
things
I'm
looking
forward
to
future
releases.
We
have
a
ticket
up
because
our
holds
load
so
slow
when
we
have
a
lot
of
items
on
a
particular
record.
So
something
like
like
a
harry
potter
book
has
like
70
items
on
it.
A
It's
like
something
from
a
couple
versions
ago
made
change
the
way
that
loaded
and
it
went
really
slow
and
there's
like
six
different
bugs
that
they're
working
on
to
try
to
speed
up
performance
and
none
of
those
were
in
this
release.
But
hopefully
some
of
them
will
get
back
ported
and
we
could
get
them
in
a
in
a
point
release
down
the
road.
So
that's
still
probably
one
of
our
biggest
issues
that
this
update
isn't
solving.
C
Yeah,
I
can
tell
you
kind
of
the
history
that
when
I
started
working
with
bywater
in
2000
was
2012.
They
were
as
soon
as
there
was
a
new
new
version.
They
were
bywater
was
putting
all
their
customers
on
the
new
version,
and
then
it
was
after
that
we
migrated
to
cohan
2012,
and
I
think
it
was
the
second
upgrade
that
we
did
and
I'm
sure
christopher
remembers
this
or
you
might
have
stopped
it.
C
I
think
christopher
and
I
used
to
be
in
systems
that
were
just
like
90
miles
apart
and
we
always
took
turns.
One
of
us
would
go
first
and
then,
if
there
were
any
serious
problems
we
would
we
would
call
each
other
and
say
whoa
tell
them
to
stop,
tell
them
to
tell
them.
You
want
to
wait
a
couple
of
months,
but
there
was
a
a
release
of
cohab
that
we
were
upgraded
to
like
a
week
or
two
after
it
hit
yeah.
C
I
don't
remember
which
release
it
was,
but
all
of
a
sudden
the
grace
period
stopped
working
on
all
of
our
fines,
and
so
every
morning
I
would
go
in
and
I
would
run
a
report
that
identified.
You
know
which
grace
periods
were
inappropriately
skipped
and,
and
I
forgave
a
whole
ton
of
fines
every
day
and
what
happened
is
bywater
realized
that
you
know,
even
though
there
was
some
testing
going
on,
they
weren't
catching,
they
were
having
these
major
problems
with
their
customers.
C
So
the
way
that
quahog
goes
now
is
that
there's
there's
master,
which
is
the
cutting
edge.
Most
recent
version
that
hasn't
been
finished
yet
then
there's
stable
and
then
there's
old,
stable
and
those
are
the
supported
releases
and
bywater
keeps
all
their
customers
on
old,
stable,
because
it's
it's
not
it's
more
stable
than
stable
and
now.
F
C
Yeah,
so
the
version
that
we're
about
to
upgrade
to
is
is
what
2111.
C
F
And
if
you
have
a,
if
you
have
them
put
together
a
test
server
for
you,
that's
that's
really
helpful
too,
because
they'll
upgrade
that
in
advance,
and
you
can
see
any
potential
problems,
especially
with
customizations,
that
you
need
to
work
out
prior
to
that
because
yeah
this,
this
new
version,
as
I
mentioned,
that
we're
getting
into
when
they
upgraded
our
test
server,
it
broke
our
cover
flow.
So
all
our
scrolling
book
covers
on
our
main
page
broken,
so
they
recognized.
F
Oh
we've
gotta
upgrade
the
the
cover
flow
at
the
same
time,
so
that
was
recognized,
and
then
there
was
a
modification
that
several
of
us
have
contributed
to
that
condenses
locations
in
a
search
results
and
jason
just
updated
that
code,
based
on
this
last
upgrade
and
fixed
that
we
made
some
improvements
on
that.
So
that's
updated
in
the
library
and
I've
got
it
working
for
both
versions.
So.
B
F
F
Location
compression
modification
that
we
did
for
search
results
broke
because
they
updated
some
classes
or
labels
inside
inside
the
cohort
base
code,
and
what
we
were
pointing
at
before
was
no
longer
valid,
so
we
had
to
find
a
new
way
to
to
point
to
those
things
and
so
jason
went
through
and
figured
that
out
and
updated
it.
I
see.
B
So
bob
you
mentioned
something
that
kind
of
caught
my
ear
about
prefacing.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
the
borrower
number
or
something
with
like
a
a
a
letter,
a
letter.
A
B
A
It's
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
using
the
barcode
prefix
thing,
but
it's
it's
like
something
that
they
have
some
code
for,
that
they
just
patch
in
so
typically,
I
don't
know
I
think
they're
going
to
make
it
a
plug-in
at
some
point,
which
makes
it
a
little
bit
easier
to
manage
than
something
that
would
be
available
if
you're
not
like
a
bywater
customer,
but
what
it
essentially
does
is
it
allows
you
to
put
in
a
barcode,
prefix
and
set
the
length
that
you
want
a
barcode,
and
we
have
to
do
that
because
we
have
libraries
that
migrate
in
that
have
like
five
digit
barcodes,
and
we
have
like
that.
A
One
group
we're
managing
essentially
what's
two
different
consortiums,
but
in
that
one
because
we
don't
use
it
for
the
other
group.
But
for
the
one
group
we
have
like
over
120
different
branches.
So
it's
we,
we
kind
of
need
like
if
you
just
are
going
five
digit
and
just
leave
it
like
that.
You
try
to
migrate
stuff
in
it's
gonna
run
against
existing
barcodes.
A
So
we
have
to
do
this
prefixing
thing
and
to
make
that
all
all
work
is.
A
Or
eight
we
put
in
a
five
digit,
we
have
a
five
digit
prefix
that
starts
with
three,
and
then
it
puts
in
the
remaining
zeros
automatically.
So
when
you're
checking
out
something,
it
will
automatically
apply
that
prefix,
because.
A
A
So
we
have
to
do
that
and
then,
because
we
resource
share
anybody,
that's
resource
sharing
that
doesn't
work,
because
if
you
bring
that
over
to
another
branch,
it'll
apply
a
different
prefix
and
it'll
either
not
show
the
item
as
checked
out
or
it'll
check
out
to
the
wrong
item,
something
that's
already
in
the
system.
So
we
force,
we
tell
libraries
they
have
to
rebarcode
and
anytime.
We
have
a
new
library
come
in.
We
say
we
understand
re-barcoding.
All
your
items
is
a
major
project.
A
C
So
we
actually
told
our
libraries
when
they
migrate.
I
I
wasn't
here
for
most
of
these
migrations,
but
the
ones
that
did
have
short
barcodes.
We
didn't
say
we
know
we
understand.
Rebar
barcoding
is
a
major
product
project
and
we're
not
going
to
make
you
do
it.
We
just
said
we're
going
to
make
you
do
it.
C
G
No,
no,
we
have
the
same
setup
and
same
special
sauce
as
bob,
and
they
did
tell
me
that
they're
working
on
turning
that
into
a
plug-in
as
well,
because
they're
like
every
time
they
add
something
and
where
you
enter
a
barcode.
It
has
to
be
added
to
that
code.
So,
like
we've,
been
working
with
the
course
reserves
module
and
it
doesn't
support
the
course
reserves
module
so
that
they
think
that
make
turning
it
into
a
plug-in
will
help
it
maintain
those
things
better.
But.
A
We
also
went
with
a
period
period
where
every
time
they
did
not
just
a
major
upgrade,
but
any
of
those
like
smaller
point
releases
if
they
forgot
to
put
that
bit
of
code
in
there,
we
would
like
a
bunch
of
barcodes
wouldn't
work
the
next
day.
So
that
happened
like
four
times,
but
we
haven't
had
the
issue
with
that
for
a
while,
but
having
a
plug-in
would
make
it
a
lot
easier,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
have
that
do
extra
special
stuff
before
they
loaded
it.
D
A
So
that
that's
great
yeah
I
haven't,
I
haven't
even
looked
at
that
we'll
have
to
see
if
they
transition
this
over.
To
that
plug-in.
Something
to
ask
about.
A
G
G
A
G
Got
it
yeah
another
advantage
of
it
being
a
plug-in
is
that
you
can
typically
install
those
at
any
point.
They
do
have
like
versions
where
they
come
in,
but
after
that
anyone
can
pull
them
in
and
install
them,
because
it's
sort
of
external
and
supposed
to
be
neutral
to
the
code.
A
Yeah
you,
you
could
do
that.
We
just
try
to
stay
consistent.
We
actually
have
one
library
that
most
I
don't
know
how
it
is
in
other
states
in
colorado,
there's
always
a
five-digit
prefix
it
always
if
it's
an
item.
It
starts
with
three
and
if
it
it's
a
patron,
that
starts
with
two.
But
the
system
doesn't
enforce
that.
So
we
have
a
library
where
a
vendor
messed
up
their
order,
one
time,
and
so
they
have
that
backwards
and
that's
fine.
A
We
just
put
it
in
the
the
two
in
the
item
place
in
the
in
the
three
in
the
patron
place
and
that
all
works
fine.
But
that's
just
more
of
a
thing
that
I
again
I
don't
know.
A
If
that's
other
states
do
this,
but
we've
tried
to
have
consistent
markets,
and
I
actually
have
a
database
of
all
the
different
prefixes
that
are
out
there,
which
is
good
that
I've
done
that
to
make
that
that
consistent,
because
we've
just
started
using
a
an
interlibrary
loan
plugin
to
that
works
with
in
the
reach,
which
is
triple
I's
ill
system,
because
that's
what
we're
using
statewide
now
so
having
those
different
prefixes
has
been
key
because
otherwise
we'd
be
seeing
errors
with
duplicate
barcodes.
C
Cohort
doesn't
have
any
hard
and
fast
rules
about
how
long
a
barcode
number
has
to
be
or
what
it
has
to
start
with,
or
whether
there
has
to
be
a
checksum.
But
there
are
some
system
preferences
you
can
turn
on
that
require
barcodes
to
be
a
minimum
length
or
a
maximum
length.
C
Coho
is
flexible
that
way,
and
there
I
think
there
is
even
a
checksum
system
preference
I'm
trying
to.
I
was
trying
to
look
for
it
and
I
couldn't.
C
Well,
can't
you
yeah,
I
have
we
have
51
libraries
and
we
have
one
standard
library
card
that
a
lot
of
libraries
just
buy
library
cards
from
our
office
and
they're
just
kind
of
the
standard
card.
But
then
I
have
some
and
they
always
start
with
one
zero,
zero,
three
yeah.
But
I
have
a
lot
of
libraries.
I
have
a
couple
of
libraries
that
they
have
personalized
cards
and
so
they
so
one
of
them
they're
all
their
card
numbers
start
with
plea,
leavenworth
and
paige.
C
It's
p-l-e-a
is
patron
ellie,
a
leavenworth
and
items
their
items
all
start
with
ilea
item
leavenworth
and
I
have
other
libraries
that
that
have
similar
conventions
where
their
card
numbers
have
a
unique
prefix,
but
they
work
fine
alongside
the
card,
alongside
the
other
libraries
that
have
a
unique
prefix
and,
alongside
our
wide
one,
zero
zero.
Three.
So.
C
But
there
is
a
way
you
can
tell
coha
that
you
know
the
card
numbers
have
to
be
this
length
and
they
have
to.
There
are
ways
you
can
use
the
system
preferences
in
koha
to.
C
Of
things,
if
that's
what
you
want,
but
generally
in
a
consortium,
I
find
that
unless
you
can
get
everybody
on
board
on
the
first
day
that
this
is
going
to
be
our
convention
for
how
we
build
library,
card
numbers
and
item
numbers
you,
you
can't
really
do
that
in
the
consortium
effectively.
A
D
A
D
D
A
Yeah
I
just
looked
at
our
upgraded
sandbox
and
we
we
are
still
using
the
other.
We
haven't
transitioned
to
the
plug-in.
A
B
You
could
just
like
hand
type
a
yeah,
a
short
code
for
the
title
or
something,
and
that
could
be
your
barcode.
You
could.
A
A
That
doesn't
matter
numeric
or
alpha
or
numeric,
or
anything
like
that
or
length
unless
you're
putting
in
those
parameters.
Like
george
was
saying,
but
you
do
it,
it
does
have
to
be
unique.
I
find
that
like
just
having
a
market,
you
can
slap
on.
There
takes
a
lot
of
the
thought
out
of
it,
so
you
don't
have
to
you
know,
run
into
issues
as
long
as
you're
ordering
your
barcodes
correctly
and
not
doing
an
overlap.
A
A
We
haven't
put
them
on
a
different
range
which
usually
you
can
just
do
by
just
putting
like
replacing
a
zero
with
a
one
up
there
and
or
like
a
three
or
something
like
that,
and
that
puts
it
on
a
range
that
you
know
they'll
never
get
to
that
that
high
of
a
number.
So,
but
if
they
don't,
let
us
know
that,
then
you
know.
Sometimes
they
have
an
unpleasant
surprise.
F
It's
always
a
good
idea
to
to
have
a
different
convention
between
your
patreon
barcodes
and
your
item
barcodes,
because
we've
seen
some
mix-ups
with
that
too.
If,
if
the
barcodes
are
similar,
you
know
so
you
know
make
sure
that
there
there's
a
good
distinction
between
the
two,
because
you
know
sometimes
you'll
be
searching
for
a
patron
and
you'll
you'll
put
in
a
an
item
barcode,
and
it
comes
up
with
somebody
else
or
you
know,
vice
versa.
So
you
know
it's
always
good
to
have
those
barcodes
distinctly
different.
B
So
koha
doesn't
enforce
unique
key
on
the
on
the
barcodes.
H
H
If
you
ever
take
the
records
out
and
then
import
them
back
in
I've
discovered
if
it
doesn't
have
a
barcode,
it
tends
to
make
a
new
item
for
record,
and
that
could
be.
I
just
don't
know
how
to
do
matching
rules
in
cohob,
but
that
tends
to
happen
and
then
the
barcode
allows
you
to
modify
batch
records.
H
H
C
C
It
says
those
zeros
are
not
significant
and
it
drops
them
and
it
makes
it
makes
dealing
with
importing
and
exporting
it
just
makes
it
awful.
So
that's
my
one
of
my
pieces
of
advice
is,
if
you
ever
think
about
starting
something
with
a
zero.
Just
don't
also.
A
C
And
I
think
actually
we
have
a
library
that
does
have
some
barcodes
item
barcodes
that
have
spaces
in
it.
There
is
a
system
preference
somewhere
now
to
deal
with
spaces
and
barcodes,
but
I
don't
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head.
A
Usually
we
are
weeding
those
out
because
they're
old
materials,
so
those
are
the
ones
where
we
have
to
yeah
we're
we
actually
have
to
say
sorry.
Normally,
we
just
batch
delete
these
for
you,
but
because
you've
got
you've
got
this
old
barcode
system
with
the
space
there's
not
much.
We
can
do
for
you
on
this
one.
A
So
you
get
to
do
it
manually,
a
good,
a
good,
but
at
some
point
we'll
have
cycle
through
both
our
short
barcodes
and
our
and
any
weird
formats
like
that,
since
everybody
is
buying
new
barcodes
with
with
just
that
standard
14
with
their
unique
prefix.
C
Yeah
there
is
it's,
I
just
put
the
oh
and
I
sent
it
just
to
michael.
B
Can
you
save
the
chat
this
time?
Oh.
A
Think
you
can
actually
can
you
do
that?
I
think
you
can
do
that
before
you
leave
too.
That
might
be
more
convenient.
B
Oh
okay,
okay,
there's.
A
That
the
right
and
the
chat,
there's
like
a
right
in
the
right
of
the
smiley
face,
there's
a
drop
down
menu
and
then
you
should
have
the
option.
C
A
Anything
else
anybody
wanted
to
talk
about.
I
know
I
have
one
thing:
if,
if
nobody
else
has
a
burning
issue
that
I
wanted
to,
you
know
run
run
by
the
brain
trust
here
and
see
what
you
all
think
about
it.
F
I
don't
have
a
an
issue,
but
yesterday
I
just
threw
together
something
on
our
test
server
and
then
put
it
into
production,
but
we
had
a
staff
member
that
was
wanting
to
have
staff
record
sign
ups
for
a
newsletter
in
a
in
a
completely
different
thing
other
than
than
cohan.
I
said:
hey,
you
know
what
I
can
make
a
check
box
in
there.
We
can
do
a
patreon
or
not
a
checkbox,
but
a
paper,
an
attribute
where
you
can
select.
F
And
so
we
created
a
patreon
attribute
for
that
and
I
created
a
a
list
for
it
to
you,
know:
choose
you
know
what
you
want
in
the
drop
down,
and
so
we
did
that.
But
then
she
said.
Oh,
I
want
to
date.
I
want
to
know
when
they
selected
that
when
they
turned
that
on
okay,
so
I
had
to
create
another
patron
attribute
and
had
to
you
know
put
you
know
I
put
some
jquery
in
there.
F
F
I
found
out
you
can't
hide
the
patron
attributes,
or
at
least
the
by
the
list
item
the
li
where
it's
all
encompassed
in
you
can
remove
it,
but
you
can't
hide
it.
It's
it's
really
weird.
The
the
dot
hide
in
jquery
doesn't
work
on
it
because
coho,
you
know
now
that
they've
been
adding
these
special
selects
in
their
their
code.
Where
it's
you
know
you
have
this
this
drop
down
and
that
part
of
the
control
you
see,
but
there's
a
hidden
field
that
it
actually
changes.
F
In
the
background
it's
forcing
things
to
to
show,
even
if
you
tell
it
to
hide
so
hiding
that
list
item,
I
could
hide
all
the
contents,
which
is
the
work
around
I
had
to
do.
I
had
to
end
up
hiding
all
the
the
children
of
that
that
list
item
in
order
to
hide
that
that
particular
feel
and
all
of
its
associated
parts,
which
was
annoying
but
yeah.
This
was
this
was
new
to
me.
F
It
was
like
I
was
scratching
my
head
for
the
longest
time
and
worked
with
luke
on
that,
and
we
found
out
what
was
going
on,
but
now
we
we
created
this
this
newsletter
thing,
so
people
could
opt
in,
and
so
now
she
can
run
a
report
and
get
the
latest.
You
know
live
information
about.
You
know
who
signed
up
for
this
and
blast
out
her
her
newsletters
to
that
group
fairly
easily
without
having
to
maintain
an
outside
list
somewhere
sounds
cool.
A
We
have
for
our
the
other
consortium
we're
running.
A
We
have
that's
what
in
the
prison
libraries
we
have
to
keep
track
of
like
user
agreements
that
they
sign,
and
so
we
have
a
yes
or
no,
but
we
we
there's
also
a
feature
we
were
able
to
enable
that
I
had
mess
with
before,
where
they
can
up
actually
upload
that,
like
that
signed
agreement
and
then
because
we're
using
a
an
ftp
to
get
a
picture
of
updates
because
they
move
off
of
facilities
fairly
regularly,
that
will
it'll
update
their
address,
but
all
that
will
go
with
them
wherever
they
go,
because
they
used
to
have
to
sign
one
of
those
every
single
time
they
moved
to
a
new
facility.
A
Now
it
sticks
with
them
throughout.
They
just
have
to
do
it,
one
time
which
is
pretty
cool
and
then
they
just
have
to
and
then
whoever's
looking
just
needs
can
just
visually
check
that
that
attribute
is
marked
as
yes
and
know
that
they're
good
to
go,
and
they
don't
have
to
do
any
of
that
work.
So
that
was
a
huge
time
saver
for
those
both.
F
F
A
Into
their
patron
record,
there
is
a
system
preference
where
you
can
turn
that
on
and
I'll
remember
what
it
is
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
but
yeah
you
could
upload
like
a
a
pdf.
A
A
F
With
access
to
that
sort
of
stuff,
so
are
those
are
those
files
in
the
same
look
or
in
a
similar
fashion?
Where
you
go
to
upload,
covers
and
and
things
can
you
access
that
in
the
in
the
I
don't
know,
if
it's
the
admin
page
or
the
the
you
know,
I
think
it's
or
the
tools
page
can
you
can
you
see
those
files
from
there.
C
F
C
C
Yeah,
I
don't
think
those
are
stored
in
the
same
place.
I
think
they're
they
I
I
know
that
they're
stored
somewhere
in
my
in
them
in
the
my
sequel
or
maria
database.
C
A
I
think
I've
talked
about
this
a
few
times
where
our
holds
is
a
bit
of
a
mess
and
we're
using
that
branch
transfer
limits,
and
I
want
to
get
away
from
it
because,
like
we
were
adding
a
new
branch
and
I
just
had
to
create
it
and
because
they're
not
logging,
yet
I
had
to
go
through
every
single
item
type
and
uncheck
everything
that
that
was
a
I
I
could
you
can
do
it
while
you're
multitasking,
but
it's
it
took.
You
know
over
the
course
of
two
days
to
get
that
completed.
A
A
Some
libraries
love
dvds,
some
don't,
but
we
still
have
that
issue
where,
even
if
we
do
that
it
would,
if
that's
all
we
did,
it
would
then
allow,
and
then
we
dropped
the
branch
transfer
limits.
It
would
allow
libraries
that
are
using
that
that,
to
requests
on
the
the
request,
dvds-
that
have
that
that
don't
have
that
non-lending
type.
G
Yeah,
I'm
trying
to
think
so
like
the
way
we're
we're
not
doing
it
with
dvds
but
we're
doing
it
with
new
items.
So
I
have
one
subset
that
everybody
uses
the
same
item
type.
So
maybe
that's
the
problem
so
like
everybody's
using
the
new
item
type
and
then
the
rules
are
set
so
that
only
the
libraries
that
aren't
so
I
don't
know
I
can
show
you
my
settings
and
maybe
that'll
help
yeah
a
little
clearer.
A
So
one
of
the
solutions
I
had
to
that
was
to
create
library
groups
and
use
that
that
function,
because
then
you
can
actually
set
things,
so
they
have
common
rules
so.
D
G
So
the
way
I
have
it
set
up
like
the
overarching
rules
are
fine.
They
don't
they're,
not
included
there.
So
that's
saying
everybody
can
share
and
borrow
new
items,
but
then,
when
I
go
into
one
of
my
fish
libraries,
which
are
the
non-sharers
my
holds
policies
say
only
local
people
can
place
holes
on
those
little
items.
But
you're
right,
like
the
the
sharing
libraries
can
still
place,
holds
on
their
new
stuff
too.
G
A
A
Well,
I
I
think
that
will
work
for
don
levy.
We
haven't
done
that
yet
I
think
that
will
solve
that
problem,
but
we
just
have
the
problem
that
if
I,
if
I
pull
off
the
branch
transfer
limits,
then
I
think
that
those
libraries
will
be
able
to
request
dvds
still
that
are
lending
dvds,
because
we're
trying
to
enforce
the
rest
of
porosity
there
if
it
was
just
a
matter
of
making
them
non-lending
that'd
be
fine.
That
would
be
hard
at
all,
but
we
also
have
to
enforce
it.
G
A
So
that
that's
the
problem
with
it
with
the
the
holds
rules
not
being
able
to
look
at
in
both
the
patrons
library
in
the
items,
library
you're
going
to
have
an
issue
with
one
of
those,
and
maybe
if
we
made
it
look
at
the
made
the
holds
rules,
look
only
at
the
items,
library
that
would
work.
A
C
I
think
you
need
a
combination
of
different
item
types
and
different
borrower
types.
C
Oh
yeah,
I
would
too,
I
would
want
to
avoid
the
hell
out
of
that,
but
I
think
that
that
would,
if
you
had
like
borrowers
at
sharing
libraries
and
borrowers
and
non-sharing
libraries,
then.
A
So
that's
where
I
think
using
the
library
groups,
where
we
can
have
a
lending
group,
a
dvd
lending,
app
and
a
non-landing
group,
because
then
we
can
have
them,
follow
the
group
rules
for
that
yeah
that
I
think
that
that
that
was
the
the
idea
I
had
and
then
the
other
issue
we
have
is:
what
do
we
do
with
schools
that
close,
and
I
I
know
that
I
think
it
was
something
christopher
put
out
there
in
a
email
exchange
where
just
marking
the
pick
off
pickup
location
off,
helps
with
that.
A
G
D
G
Yeah
because
it's
ever
it's
seven
different
places
and
several
different
things.
D
A
On
vacation
last
week,
and
somebody
who
had
like
some
work
done
on
their
building
that
wasn't
resource
sharing,
wanted
to
turn
back
on
and
like
the
person
on
my
staff,
looked
at
that
and
went
I
I
I
know
bob
showed
me
how
to
do
this,
but
there's
no
way.
I
feel
confident
and
messing
with
any
of
this
stuff,
because
it's
so
complicated.
C
I
I
just
shared
a
link
to
a
bug
on
bugzilla
that
christopher
brannan
from
coeur
d'alene
library
filed
in
2014
about
gee.
Wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
there
was
an
easier
way
to
shut
down
a
library
like
a
school
library
for
the
summer,
and
this
bug
has
been
around
for
eight
years
and
it's
just
never
nobody's
ever
done
any
developments.
So
maybe
maybe
everybody
that's
complaining
here.
We
should
all
get
together
and
talk
about.
H
A
C
A
Yeah
yeah
now
we're
now
we're
talking.
F
F
Avoided
because
you
know
a
lot
of
the
other
countries,
don't
care,
you
know.
You
know
you
know,
but
here
in
america,
where
we
we
have
seasonal
libraries,
it's
like
you
know.
We
need
a
way
to
be
able
to
shut
these
down
easily
and-
and
you
know
one
of
the
comments
martha
put
on
that
bug.
Is
you
have
a
checklist
of
things
that
you
have
to
do
in
order
to
close
down
the
library,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
there
was
a
better
mechanism
to
schedule
these
things
or
do
these
things
in.
F
C
C
There's
a
system,
preference
called
opec
in
items
and
when
you
add
it's
a
yaml,
yaml
interface
and
you
give
it
like
a
set
of
criteria
over
here
and
then
you
put
the
variables
over
here
and
it
says
home
library
equals
these
locations
and
they're
hidden
from
the
opac
until
you
take
them
out
of
that
system,
preference
and
there,
and
so
I've
got.
C
You
know
like
martha's,
martha
says
in
her
comment:
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
there
was
a
checklist,
I
have
a
checklist,
it's
just
all
written
down
in
a
notebook
and
there
are
certain
steps
and
you've
got
to
go
through
each
of
these
steps
manually,
and
so
that's
what
it'd
be
nice
is
if
there
was
a
way
to
say
we
want
to
do
this
and
this
and
this
with
just
a
set
of
check
boxes
on
the
library
information,
because
the
way
it
is
now
is
that
there
isn't
a
good
way.
C
A
Okay,
you
can
also
turn
off
their
holds
at
the
circles,
but
then
because
it
only
looks
at
either
you
have
to
pick.
Do
you
want
it
to
look
at
the
items
or
the
patrons?
So
I
was
talking
about
earlier.
You
either
have
a
situation
where
other
libraries
can
still
request
their
items
or
patrons
of
that
library
can
still
request
other
items
from
another
library,
so
that
becomes
a
bit
of
an
issue
too.
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
we're
a
little
past
time.
So
thank
you
for
all
for
the
discussion.
We
will
be
meeting
again
well.
Our
normally
scheduled
time
happens
to
coincide.
I
think
with
the
quahog
us
of
kansas.
So
that's
what
we'll
be
so
we'll
we'll
be
having
our
meeting
during
the
quahog
us.
So
if
you
haven't
signed
up
for
that
in
person
or
online,
I
recommend
you
do
so.
A
A
Times
out,
well,
we
used
to
do
this
every
month,
but
it
was
a
lot
of
jason
and
I
having
10
minute
conversations
and
then
bidding
each
other
a
deal
so.